Chrissy Teigen’s Surrogacy and the Rise of Alix Earle
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This is, like, very disgusting for me to listen to.
And then I got it, and now I'm hugging and kissing her, and I named the baby after the surrogate, so it's totally fine that this woman carried my child for me because I could afford it.
That's the only reason that girl did that.
The girl, you know what, who didn't dream of growing up and giving Christine a child?
Alexandra. We obviously start with the cheers.
Yes, cheers. With our mocktails.
Yes. So...
That's good. Yeah, it is actually really good.
Whoever did this gets a raise.
Okay, so we're sipping mocktails because it's really important to me that we give people permission to not drink all the time.
We just talked about this on my show a little bit.
You don't drink. I don't drink.
And it's because I think there's this weird social pressure that when you're young, people think the only way you can have fun is drinking.
Yes, and the only way that you can be the real you and let loose is to drink.
When in reality, it's definitely the fake you.
Yes, and it's also the opposite.
Once you get over that hump and realize that you don't need to have this fake personality when you're drinking, you don't need that barrier.
It's actually very freeing. You gain a lot of confidence.
So yes. But kudos to you because you're 21 and you've acknowledged that.
And I didn't until I was in my mid-20s.
I think I stopped drinking when I was about 26 years old.
Yeah. So you're super rare.
You can't really find a 21-year-old that doesn't drink.
No. Unless it's for like religious reasons or that kind of thing.
It's like I'm an anomaly for sure.
I think my mom did a really good job though because I remember once I was on my way to a party at UCLA, some sorority party.
Or frat party. And I had just had a really, really hard conversation with my dad.
Like, we had had some blowout fight.
And I've been very open about the fact that, you know, my dad and I have had, like, a tumultuous relationship, to say the least.
And I called my mom. And I was so upset about it.
I was, like, getting ready for this party.
And I was like, I can't believe. Like, I'm so upset.
And, like, he made me feel this way.
And then I said this. And just all of this rage.
And she looked at me.
Well, not looked at me. We were on the phone. But she, like, very pointedly said, do not drink tonight.
Because she said, you cannot connect these feelings of Anger and guilt and sadness and loneliness with then going and getting drunk at a party.
She said it's so important that you disconnect that.
And so in addition to all of the social pressures and wanting to make sure that I wasn't deluding myself in public and making sure I didn't do anything stupid while losing control, another thing that was very important to me was that You know, as work gets crazier, as life gets crazier, things are harder and that sort of thing.
I never wanted that to be a crutch that I fall on, especially because I know that during my childhood I had a lot of stuff going on and my mom was so pointed about that.
She was like, I know you're, you know, you're 19 years old, you're at UCLA, you're, you know, in your first year at a sorority, don't you dare do that because that's a terrible pattern.
And her saying that has been in my head literally for years and I think it finally got to the point where now I was legally 21, I was legally going out and, you know, Drinking, but I also have this job and this show.
Millions of people watching me.
It's like the risk is not worth it.
Right. It's funny that she said that because I had a similar thing happen with an ex-boyfriend that I was doing in high school.
His mother said, and I never forgot it, that drinking isn't who you are.
It actually just exasperates how you feel.
Yes. And your emotions are fleeting and you change your opinion about how you feel all the time.
But if you go into something and you're angry, it's going to exasperate that anger.
And those are people that go on rages when they're drunk.
Yep. And if you're happy, you feel like you have a life of the party, but most people are drinking because they're not okay.
And it feels good because you're getting it out.
Because people these days, just in general, don't know how to communicate their feelings and actually process them in a healthy way.
So instead they're drinking. And it does feel good.
It feels good to get it all out, but that's unhealthy.
That's not the right way to do it. And usually you end up regretting what you say and how you act.
And the morning anxiety.
I just cannot deal with that feeling like I've been an idiot or I've done something bad or wondering if I remember everything or how I represented myself, which you spoke to on my show.
So I think that that is probably the most consistent thing that I just said, I'm never going to feel this way ever again, which is like, I hate anxiety.
It's disgusting. All right.
What topics do we have? What is going on in the world today?
Okay. So... I was thinking that we should talk about Alex Earle.
So Alex Earle, you don't know about her, but she is the TikTok it girl.
So she's blonde. She's really cute.
She is kind of the antithesis of the Kardashians in a way who have always been, I would say, just like the A-list Hollywood celebrities.
Who have been so closed off.
Like, I've never gotten any work done.
I look like this. I've never gotten work done.
Kind of keeping everything closed off, revealing what they want to.
She is, like, in front of her camera, like, it's the one-year anniversary of my boob job.
Okay. So excited. Like, she's brutally honest with every single part of her life.
And part of that is endearing.
Like, I will say it's cool to see somebody that is 100% authentic at all times, even though it's authenticity about something that is obviously very fake.
But she just graduated from the University of Miami and She kind of grew from this influencer TikTok creator to now she is like an A-list celebrity.
Wow. She's, you know, dating Sofia Coppola's ex-boyfriend, which is a whole drama that's going on on Instagram right now because Sofia is upset that he's dating.
It's a whole thing. Anyway, she is now...
In a list, everything.
And she still lives in Miami, but she is drunk constantly.
Speaking of drinking, her personality, her brand was kind of created around her partying.
And like, I was so drunk and I did this crazy thing.
And oh my God, it's just, and I watched those videos.
And again, I understand that people like the fact that she's real, but that what she's being real about is so unhealthy.
And I look at that, it's just like sad that that is what women on TikTok are looking up to.
Like, it's just, her videos are everywhere.
Right. And so she got into a scandal because one drunk night.
Yes. She door dashed or ordered food that would feed 40 people by accident.
And she woke up by accident.
By accident, oh no. Yes.
So she wakes up the next morning and is like filming herself like, oh my god, I can't believe that I did this.
Look at all this food. And then she's throwing it away like, I'm so dumb.
And people in the comments were obviously saying, like, this is so wasteful.
Like, do better. But then, PR team swooped in.
And immediately after, this is the video that I saw yesterday, she just announced a scholarship at the University of Miami in her name.
She is going to vet the participant or the recipient, mentor them.
That's the part that she was like, I want to guide them.
The real thing, she said at the end, was like, I just want to be like a big sister to them.
I was like, okay, that is more like what you will be like.
Here's a push-up bra and here's, you know, do your hair like this.
I don't think you're going to be mentoring them at the University of Miami in any kind of intellectually stimulating way.
But it is cool that she's giving a scholarship, but it came so perfectly after this other scandal.
Well, it's inauthentic. Exactly.
This is what every celebrity does. It's like, I'll just throw money at the problem rather than addressing it.
And I don't know her. I don't follow her.
But I think it is sad that That is always a cultural example that people find to be really relatable.
That's actually how, by the way, back when Chrissy Teigen was the it girl, it was because they said she was so relatable because she was always drunk.
She was always making faces. It's like, do you really want to be able to relate to that?
Right, exactly. Like, I look at that and I watch her videos and I go, oh god, like I would...
It's almost like this reality TV thing.
It's like, oh, I can't believe your life is like that.
That's not reality. It's not reality at all.
No, it's crazy. There is this media element of it where they're trying to decide what is relatable at every moment, right?
So right now it's like transgender stuff.
They're trying to make that relatable.
And so they kind of focus on this issue.
And I feel like over the last 10 years, there's been this increasing, or I would say almost even more, just maybe a little more than 10 years, they kind of made a shift and decided that, like, Being an alcoholic is relatable.
Like, everybody's just going home and getting drunk and flung all over themselves.
It's so funny when you wake up and you don't remember anything.
And that stuff is super attractive to people that are young, which is why I think it's super cool that people are speaking out about not drinking.
And you shared with me that Gen Z is actually a generation that...
It's the worst generation. Crazy!
Which is wild to me. Yeah, because they're realizing actually, like, it may have worked for her and this may have tripped her into fame and it worked temporarily for Chrissy Teigen, who, by the way, should be a cautionary tale.
In every part of her life.
In every part of her life, right?
Because people thought it was funny.
She's so relatable. She's John Legend's wife.
She's a potty mouth. She's drinking.
And then she kind of came out into that she had a drinking problem, which is exactly where Alex Clark could land.
It actually ended up being this thing where I'm sure when she wrote those awful messages to the girls telling them to kill themselves, she wasn't sober.
Yeah. No. But what happens when you have that feedback loop where people are saying to you, you're amazing.
I was like, oh my god, you're so funny.
We're going to award you with followers like I did to Chrissy Teigen and all this stuff.
You actually can't assess who you are as a person in a reasonable manner and actually say, actually, no, this is really bad.
I just ordered food for 40 people and now I'm throwing it all up.
You can't wake up when everybody's Yes.
So hopefully if she's got any talents other than being drunk, she wakes up to the fact because that stuff works when you're young.
How old is she? I think she's 23 or something.
23. And she's hot.
She's stunning. She's got the boob job, all of that stuff.
That is working for her. Same for Chrissy Teigen.
She sounds like a little Chrissy Teigen.
Chrissy Teigen was very honest about the work she's got done.
She would do interviews and she would say, oh, nothing in my face is real.
There's only like two things in my face is real.
People would be like, oh, Oh my god, it's so relatable.
It's so funny. I think about that and I'm like, do we all have work done?
I guess this is what I'm like, oh gosh.
How many of you are walking around with fillers?
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Okay, but Chrissy Teigen is also being real about something else that just happened.
Do you want to talk about that? Yes, this is really pressing me out.
That post is wild. So I have been covering on my show the topic of IVF and surrogacy because it's taken a very dark turn.
Yes. And people don't want to talk about that because we want to believe in surrogacy In the fluffy ideal of a couple that has been struggling with fertility for 10 years, they finally break.
We have the scientific breakthrough.
And that is a circumstance for a minority of people, where it's, you know, we finally can turn to science to give us that one child that we always hoped for.
I know one girl that literally tried to get pregnant for 10 years, you know, 10 years.
And they are very modest.
I would say they're a lower middle class family.
They remortgaged their home to be able to afford IVF treatment.
They were able to have a child and you go, oh my gosh, that's amazing.
And I also have a very close friend.
Same exact deal. They tried to get pregnant for 10 years.
But what's actually happening now, it's becoming the plaything of the rich.
So it's not because they can't have children.
They already have children. They just want more children.
But they don't want to hurt their bodies.
They don't want to hurt their bodies. Kylie Kardashian just didn't want to get pregnant, but she wanted to have the same sibling.
Yes. Right? As Tristan Thompson.
And then she spoke out about the fact that she couldn't connect with this son that she had.
Because she walked to the hospital, had no spiritual experience of pregnancy, and just picked up a child.
A woman just labored for hours, gave birth to her child, and she walked out with it.
No, no, no. She sat in the hospital bed and did a photo shoot.
She did a photo shoot. And then she was honest, at least, to her credit and said this felt very transactional.
But she took the transaction. She finished the transaction.
And she went home and then said, I can't connect.
Lance Bass has just spoken out about having, I think, twin boys.
And that they did not want to connect with him or love him for two years.
But they wanted his mother, whenever his mother would come over, they would embrace them.
And when they talk about it, they put themselves at the center of this victimhood where they're like, I couldn't connect with the baby.
It's the child. What about the child?
What about the surrogate?
And so Chrissy Teigen has three children.
She has three children.
She had two children on her own.
Then she wanted a third and then she got pregnant, you know.
And then she decided she wanted a fourth and she impregnated a surrogacy.
This is gluttony. And the thing that...
So some backstory is that they were trying to have a third child.
She got pregnant and she had a...
Which also created this whole controversy where she said that it was an abortion.
She actually had a miscarriage, but she called it an abortion, I think, just for clout.
It was very weird. So she had had a very, very traumatic pregnancy.
Knew that she wanted more kids, but didn't think that she would be able to carry more kids.
But she and John decided to try one more time and see if it would work.
So she did get pregnant. But she had already found this great surrogate and had the idea to have two more.
So she had the surrogate carry this fourth child while she was pregnant with a third.
So she knew that she could get pregnant again, but it wasn't twins and I really wanted twins.
So she artificially created twins.
Okay, anyway, here is the post.
For as long as I can remember, I've always wanted four children.
As a little girl, two glow worms and two cabbage patch dolls were perpetually in my arms.
Me, me, me, me, me.
Oh, wow.
Twins, kind of. Both a baby boy and a girl.
At some point early in our surrogacy journey, I came out of a therapy session, walked downstairs, and said to John, I want to try to carry it one more time.
If it doesn't work, we'll be okay.
We've already seen the worst. I feel like that's the one moment that she's being honest.
She obviously is going to therapy to try to figure out whether they want to do this, whatever they're working on.
That was the only moment of authenticity where it was like, maybe this doesn't feel right.
Let me try one more time.
And then she says, I promise I would be okay no matter what happened.
I remember saying, I just couldn't go on wondering my whole life if I should have tried again.
So they restarted the IVF process, the same process that gave us their beautiful Luna and Miles.
We made new embryos. We did my transfer and we were so happy to learn that it worked.
We were pregnant again with our little girl, Esty.
And then at the same time, they met the most incredible, loving, compassionate surrogate, Alexandra.
I knew that she was a perfect match for us the moment we spoke to her.
All of our wishes and dreams aligned.
I wanted to be her friend.
This is, like, very disgusting for me to listen to because I just don't think people understand the facts about surrogacy.
That, at the end of the day, science is not able to trump biology.
The amount of, first off, miscarriages that surrogates go through.
The idea that they are doing this not because they're thinking, I want to give Chrissy Teigen a child.
She didn't know who she was going to be matched to.
She wanted the money. Okay?
So there is an element of this that is, when I saw this piece written by actually a far-left liberal feminist who was talking about the fact that this is and will forever be a form of slavery, like sex slavery.
And it's because the women need the money.
They're willing to give their bias for a transaction.
This is no different than prostitution, except this prostitution doesn't last one night.
It lasts for 10 months, okay?
And people didn't like that when I said that on my show and I said, you are watching this.
This isn't the case of the person who goes to their sister who's able to have children or a person who can't have children.
They're actually saying, I want this.
Gay men. Yeah. Right?
They are wealthy gay men are the people that are signing up for this the most.
People to judge. Yeah, because...
Exactly. Because they're saying, well, I just don't want to have sex with a woman.
Think about these vain things. Christy is basically saying, from the time I was a little girl, I always wanted four children.
Yeah. Want, want, want. Me, me, me.
Yeah. She's not thinking about the surrogate.
She's thinking, I have a wealthy husband.
It's not real life. And I can afford it.
Kim Kardashian. Yeah. Granted, she had two tough pregnancies, but she had two successful pregnancies.
She had two children, right?
She had a girl and she had a little boy, just like Chrissy Teigen did.
And then she said, I want more.
So she then went because she could afford it and she had surrogacy.
Khloe Kardashian didn't want to have sex with her ex-husband.
These are not examples of people that should be allowed to have a surrogate because you want, want, want, and you can afford it.
Right? And it's just, these are the same people that you will hear piloting all of the concerns about women and women's issues, and they don't think about that.
They don't think about what the surrogate goes through.
The process, because I have children, you don't understand what women go through in birth and in labor.
The concept of giving birth to a child and then having that child removed from my arms...
To then be given to a Khloe Kardashian that's waiting in the waiting room or a Pete Buttigieg, there's something about that that is demonic.
It is demonic. Emotionally, but also physically, biologically.
For the child. For the child.
They know your voice.
They know your voice. And that is why I didn't want to denigrate Khloe Kardashian for being honest about and raw and honest about it because people needed to hear that.
Nobody else is doing it. Nobody ever tells you about this.
Yeah. They all make it glamorous. Christine is making it glamorous.
I always wanted me, me, me.
And then I got it.
And now I'm hugging and kissing her.
And I named the baby after the surrogate.
So it's totally fine that this woman carried my child for me because I could afford it.
That's the only reason that girl did that.
The girl who didn't dream of growing up and giving Christine a child?
Alexandra. So for whatever circumstance, it's probably a ton of money that was offered that you can make in 10 months.
And so that dynamic in that article that I read that they were describing, she said...
Surrogacy, for me, when we've established equality, is when rich women are carrying the children of poor.
Yeah. Right? You're never going to see that.
No, never. Because this is being driven by financial incentives.
Yeah. So do not believe this.
We want to give them a gift. Does that circumstance exist?
Yes. I've seen them. I've read about them.
Yes, it's very rare. It's extremely where I've read about those circumstances where they keep the surrogate in the family.
Or is there a family member?
It's a sister caring for her sister because she's had ovarian cancer and literally cannot.
And that is a beautiful thing. It's beautiful.
It's beautiful. But this is becoming something else, and we have to have the courage to talk about that and realize what you are seeing in the culture that's taking place, which is greedy, rich people that can never have enough of anything.
They can't have enough houses. They can't have enough boats.
They can't have enough vacations.
They can't have enough planes. And now they can't have enough kids, and they don't even have to put their bodies through it to have it.
It's removing the spiritual element of pregnancy.
And I personally am sickened by it, barring those, you know, examples of people who genuinely have remortgaged their homes and have tried everything to be able to have one child because that's something else, I think.
And it's so interesting as a young woman, so going through college, you know, during the digital era, I remember being on Facebook, being on Instagram.
Surrogacy ads are everywhere.
I don't know if that was just targeted to me.
I don't know if, you know, any of this audience has seen that, but I would just be scrolling and it would say, and obviously because it's ads and they sell our data, they know everything about us.
And it's like, are you like a highly educated brunette girl over the height of, you know, five, eight, this athletic, you know, do you want $20,000?
I remember going to my mom and being like, this is great money.
Like I should be a surrogacy.
A lot of these girls are college girls that need the money.
I mean, when you actually become educated, and I do want to point people to Allie Beth Stuckey's podcast.
She's done so much work on this, and she woke me up to it.
I had no idea, because I had the fluffy version in my head of what the circumstances are and how desperate the women that are giving up their eggs are, as well as the actual surrogates are.
Like, they are people that literally need the cash, and so they're donating their eggs.
How can we say that that is moral and that is principled, you know?
And it's not like you just go in one day and your eggs are...
No, it's like a process of preparing your body for it.
Very painful. Awful.
Yeah. But it's very cavalier.
I used to think that it was very cavalier because I looked at it and always thought like, oh yeah, when I'm 22, yeah.
Because then I think you have to be 21 to do it.
You'd be perfect. That'd be great. They always want someone who's college educated.
You've got great height. You're athletic.
You're smart. They would dole out cash for your ex.
Yes, exactly. Which brings me to Naomi Campbell, by the way, because she now just announced right after Khloe Kardashian.
And then you've got Chrissy Teigen.
Naomi Campbell just recently announced that she's- Didn't Kourtney also just get pregnant?
Oh, we're talking about surrogacy.
Oh, sorry. I just said Chloe.
You're right. Chloe. Is it? Yes.
I meant Chloe. Yeah. And Naomi Campbell just announced that at 54 years old, she just had a baby.
And her announcement was very me-me-me.
She said, you know, you can have babies whenever you want.
Yeah. If you're wealthy.
Rich. Yes. Yeah. If you're 54 years old, don't even get me started on the fact that biology, actually, the reason why we stop being able to have children is because there's something socially to be said about the fact that a 54-year-old should not be just starting having a child.
The energy. I have young children that it takes.
You're going to tell me that she's going to be when her child is 10 years old.
She is going to be a senior citizen.
And you want me to believe that she is going to have the energy.
She's going to be able to give everything to this child.
You know, nature has figured a few things out.
One thing I also think of is the extended family and the grandparents.
So my brothers are 12 and 14 years older than me.
And it was a very fun age gap because it was like I had these amazing protectors, but I was sort of like an only child, but wasn't.
But one thing that they got that I did not get to have, and obviously, you know, can't change the past.
I love that I'm here. Love my mom.
I'm glad that, you know, she was able to have me at, you know, 41 years old, 42 years old or something like that.
But my grandparents were never active with me.
They were active with my brothers, took them on vacation, playing with them, roughhousing with them.
It was always like when I would go to my grandparents' house, it was like, oh, they're fragile.
Like, you know, it's the elderly grandparents.
It was not like the active part of your life.
And I think about, you know, the family structure.
It's one of the reasons why it's like, oh, no, I want to have kids younger because I
already know that my mom had me when I was, you know, or had me when she was 40 years
old.
It's like, I can't wait until I'm then and she's 90 years old to have great.
It's just, it's yes.
So nature has figured a couple of things out.
The natural law and grandparents, obviously, I wrote my entire book about the impact that
my grandparents had me.
I'm here today.
Everything that I am is because of the influence that my grandparents had.
Well, now, guess what? You can afford not to even have to think about that.
You can have a child that's 65.
You can have a child that's 75.
If you can afford it, you just need to find a surrogate that's going to carry your baby.
People that have a problem with this, definitely ageist.
It's like, no, we're not ageist.
To defend natural law and to defend natural order is not being ageist.
It's recognizing that something that is, yes, an amazing scientific breakthrough is now being used to give rich people...
Everything that they want.
Yes. Whenever they want.
Naomi Campbell could have had children.
She has one child already. Yeah.
I think she had them also late.
And now she's like, oh, that worked with the surrogacy a few years ago.
Now I'm going to have another child I've had before so you can have it all.
Because she did everything that she wanted. She made all of her money.
Did everything. No sacrifices.
Me, me, me, me, me.
And now that I'm 54, a little more me with zero consideration for this child and the environment that they're going to be raised in because they're not going to have that relationship with their grandparents and things of that nature.
Okay, this is weird, but I saw TikTok about this and it went viral.
It has now like 7.7 million views, but it's this girl talking about being an IVF baby.
Both she and her sister were from the same set of embryos and she's a couple of years older.
It was really interesting seeing her grapple with this because she asked questions that I've never seen anybody ask before and the comments were very weirded out by it.
Like, they were making fun of her, saying this is very odd.
But she was asking these really hard questions saying, why was I picked to be the older sister?
Like, I was just a random embryo that was plucked out and picked.
And she said, but it makes sense.
Like, I can't imagine my younger sister, her personality being an older sister.
She was like, is it God?
Like, did somehow, like, fate decide that I was the right embryo?
And there are still embryos left that are frozen.
And she and her sister have thought about, like, oh, they could have those embryos, but then it would be their fathers.
It's all this weird stuff, but she is, like, questioning, like, there are some of us still left.
And she was just putting on her makeup and questioning.
And it was so... Hard, but good to watch because somebody was being so authentic.
And those are questions I hadn't even thought about before of being a child.
Do you know they rate the embryos? Which is crazy.
Yeah, they rate the embryos. So you create an embryo and they say, for the parents, this one's an A. So this child would be perfect.
This one's a B, but at least this one's a boy in case you want to go the boy route.
The A's a girl. Yeah.
And this is a consideration that people have.
I have a close friend.
They're really deeply faithful Christians and they went the IVF route and they refused.
They didn't want to know the sex. They didn't want to know anything because they were like, this is already, you know, for us, we feel that this is, you know, I have questions about this.
They struggled to have kids for 10 years and they did not want, when they explained that to me, that you can, they rate the embryos and then afterwards I said, what do they do with the extra ones?
She said, they're getting them implanted.
She's like, we of course should implant them.
If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
That's fine. But the idea of leaving my children in a science lab.
I've always said that if God forbid something happened and I couldn't get pregnant and I had to do IVF, I would have however many embryos Worked.
I would have as many.
You can donate to science. You can give it to another couple.
I mean, just even these sort of moral considerations that most people just don't know.
The idea of raiding your children being raided before their...
We have gotten to a point in society where we are playing God.
Yeah. And I am just very uncomfortable about it.
You know, like I don't know what's happening where we are now saying that science trumps
spirituality and that moral right and wrongness, it's being blurred.
And it's usually because at our core it's narcissism.
We live in a tremendously narcissistic culture.
It's very, very selfish.
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All right, that's a wrap on another front stage.
I went by so fast. I was just so passionate about that topic.
These are good topics. I know. They were less popular.
No, they are pop culture, but with more substance.
Right, exactly. And I just feel like people need to hear it, and I'm sure people in the comments are going to yell at me.