Ask Us Anything 254: Charlie and Aliens? Smart vs Educated? Liu vs. Gu?
Ask Us Anything 254 pits Alyssa Liu’s defiance of China’s $10M+ bribes—despite CCP spies in her life—against Eileen Gu’s Stanford-backed switch for a $20M annual deal, framed as elitist betrayal. JD Vance called Gu a "traitor," while she dismissed criticism as anti-China bias, claiming U.S. athletes face harsher judgment. The episode ties this to broader debates: Charlie Kirk’s UFO skepticism (7M-view video) vs. suppressed Roswell evidence, and Blake’s rejection of credentialism over wisdom, citing Hillsdale College and Rush Limbaugh’s critiques of "unthinking educated elites." Ultimately, it argues that virtue thrives in ordinary Americans, not Silicon Valley-connected opportunists or institutionalized conformity. [Automatically generated summary]
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Our first question.
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We have a written question from Brandon who asked, did Charlie – oh, we have him?
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Brandon, unmute yourself and what's your question?
Hey, guys.
So with aliens in the news, I figured I'd ask if Charlie believed in aliens and if you guys believe in aliens.
All right.
So the problem is I'm searching our old dashboard.
It's impossible because illegal aliens.
Aliens.
Only kids.
Exactly.
Maybe if I search UFOs.
We're working on getting a video where it said we'll be revealing.
So we'll filibuster a bit here.
Danny does tell us he was around Charlie a lot.
He believes Charlie thought they were possibly demonic elements.
Obviously, Charlie was a Christian.
He believes in supernatural forces.
So you could have angels, you could have demons, and they might be measurable in this world in some way.
Charlie definitely was open to UFOs.
I remember a clip that went viral.
Remember when he was flying on that plane?
Yes.
And they saw kind of the that foo fighter?
Yeah, this is the first time.
Is that the clip they're getting?
Excellent.
Excellent.
I remember.
So Charlie was convinced that there was anomalies that you couldn't explain and that one of the options could be aliens.
But he was also very much like, you know, this could be foreign actors.
It could be our own military.
I don't think he'd made up his mind yet.
Charlie and I spoke a lot about C.S. Lewis and what C.S. Lewis said about aliens and that it wouldn't change our Christian faith or wouldn't challenge our Christian faith at all.
And we were grateful to C.S. Lewis for putting that forward.
I personally happen to believe that there are probably aliens.
My guess is, it's going to be painful to say, but it's probably like Obama's, where there's so much universe out there, it feels like it would genuinely defy probability to say there is no life of any kind in any of the literally hundreds of billions of galaxies that are out there with trillions, quadrillions, quintillions of stars and planets around them.
But we haven't seen any of it out there.
And our knowledge of physics is such that we'll probably never be able to run into them.
So there is some really interesting – okay, so listen, I like Joe Rogan, and I've listened to a bunch of his episodes when it comes to where he has experts on about extraterrestrial life and Roswell.
And I do find a lot of it really compelling.
I think different people, what's happened is the whole research behind aliens has been fairly siphoned off.
It's been blocked from sharing their expertise, sharing their research.
And that's for a variety of reasons.
So I don't think we make a ton of progress on it.
But the Roswell site and the 1947 crash site, they are very compelling.
Blake's sitting here shaking his head tonight.
And I'll tell you why, because there's actual people exist today that have held in their hands these compound structures.
I'm not super articulate.
But they cannot figure out how you would machine something that was found in 1947.
So I find that very compelling.
You couldn't even machine it without breaking the machine.
You couldn't let alone stack 18 layers like they found on some of these substances that they found.
So I actually think there's some compelling evidence out there.
I'll react to that, but I want to make sure we get Charlie's point.
So first, Charlie had this tweet.
I was flying back from Wisconsin on a friend's plane and got called up to the cockpit.
The pilots were very confused at what they were seeing.
Something was above them and was not showing on radar.
I'm sure there is a logical explanation here, but watch this video and tell me what I am missing.
This video got 7 million views, and this is an excerpt from it.
Let's play 652.
Is this the most profound you've ever seen it?
It's just like over and over and over again.
And no logical explanation.
The only logical explanation would be a satellite, but I don't know the satellites because it's circling this thing in place.
Are they coming in?
You've almost seen three of them.
They're lower on the horizon now.
If they're in formation now.
Yeah, exactly.
And if I'm coming up on the zone.
Yeah, there's two of them right there.
and they're way ahead of us yeah would they be surveillance I mean, yeah, my conspiracy theory non-existent.
And there's nothing on your radar.
200 miles.
How many miles do you think that's away from us?
We've seen it that way.
So since Wisconsin, you've seen it?
Not here.
Wow.
Do you think the U.S. government knows about it?
I mean, I have no idea.
But what kind of thing wouldn't be caught on radar?
How high does your radar go?
Be 50, 60,000.
Wow.
All right.
Thanks, guys.
That was fun.
I remember the discussion with them now.
It did.
It did.
And I was, as always, I'm the skeptic.
I am the black pill.
I'm just like, Charlie, it's probably not aliens.
And so I wanted to answer that on the, you know, where people are saying, oh, they found materials.
The interesting phenomenon when you get, when you really dig into this is Harry Reid was a top Democrat, a top guy in the government for a long time.
He's from Nevada, and he was actually a bit of a UFO enthusiast, as was, I believe, Hillary's campaign manager, Podesta.
I believe he also, I'm going off memory here.
Definitely Reed, though.
And he was into this stuff.
And so he kind of threw bits into bills, like, oh, yeah, let's have the Pentagon investigate this.
And so the reason you're getting more military stuff that we're, oh, we're getting these guys who come out and they say, there's evidence of aliens.
We found these stuff we can't explain.
I actually consider it's a marker of the way America's gone downhill because we just kind of let loopy UFO believer guys into the government and they started spamming weird stuff.
You weren't getting this at peak America in the 1960s when we were putting a man on the moon.
We didn't have Wernher von Braun coming out and going, oh, I have seen aliens.
There was an interesting thing I saw on X where it was back in the 1950s and CIA was doing some surveillance operations and this was actually uncovered where the CIA said, well, let's just go plant some UFO stories to cover up for the surveillance activities that we were doing.
So we know that that happens as well.
Or on the other hand, yeah, and also the military today might be you use fake alien stuff to figure out who is stable enough to be trusted with information.
so you just you give them the fake alien thing and if they immediately start leaking or going nuts you this i'm sure this is what inspired it was obama's alien comment But then Trump said, well, Obama was talking about classified information.
That's a big no-no.
But maybe I'll just let him off the hook and release some stuff.
Then he comes out with this truth social.
It says, based on the tremendous interest shown, I will be directing the Secretary of War and other relevant departments and agencies to begin the process of identifying, releasing government files related to alien and extraterrestrial life, unidentified aerial phenomenon, UAPs, and unidentified flying object, UFOs.
I'm not exactly sure what the difference is.
And any other information connected to these highly complex but extremely interesting and important matters.
God bless America.
I like this old tweet.
If these guys existed, we better not find out because we'll definitely start sending them money.
Yeah, exactly.
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Let's get to our next question.
Who we got up, Blake?
Let's see.
Do we have Anthony next?
All right, Anthony's back.
Anthony, welcome back to the show.
What's up, guys?
Thank you.
I think this makes it four weeks in a row.
It's going to take you, man.
Some people ask good questions.
So some people take great questions.
But this is a shout out, guys.
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Anyone out there who's listening to this?
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You can ask us whatever you want.
Go for it, Anthony.
No, I won't ask you whatever you want, Blake, but I do have a question.
So regarding this terror stuff that's happened today, Andrew, I got it.
Why does it look like Congress refuses to work with Trump?
It seems like even the Republicans, and I don't mean all of them, but there's a good chunk of them that refuse to work with him.
Like, are we serious?
Don't they want the country to do well or do they just want their own pockets to do well?
So Blake actually has a really good point on this.
It relates to our conversations around the filibuster.
So essentially, we have a Congress that is a zombie Congress because you can never get anybody, 60 senators, to agree on anything.
So it doesn't matter if it passes the House with a simple majority.
It gets the Senate and dies.
So the point is, we are relying on bills that were passed decades ago that have never been updated, that are not current with our current situations, that haven't been updated because of AI or any of these kind of licensing issues that are currently we're struggling with.
So Congress is essentially null and void.
It's a zombie Congress in a lot of ways.
Not completely, but somewhat.
As you said, I think Congress has gotten so used to being a sort of zombie Congress.
Their filibuster has been there so long, they're used to not. really having to consider that their positions might become laws.
Well, it's interesting because the Constitution does give the right to tax to the Congress, but then Congress can pass laws which delegates certain authorities and powers to the executive branch, which it's done in the 1930s, 1960s, 1970s.
Congress loves to give powers to the president rather than exercise them themselves.
And it's one of the biggest problems with Congress.
They fear power.
They fear using the power given to them by the founders.
It's also just harder.
It's like herding cats in Congress.
I mean, we had, you saw some of our conversation if you watched Thought Crime last night, which, by the way, was an amazing episode.
We'll have it on the podcast on Saturday.
You know, you've got guys like Thomas Massey or Dom Bacon that are going to be nose for whatever reason, and they'll say it's on principle.
Maybe they've got a beef with the president, whatever.
We could debate that another time.
It's just harder, especially when you have slim majorities.
And then you've got this, you know, filibuster-proof 60-vote threshold in the Senate.
And so we're President Trump and any executive for that matter is reliant upon statutes that have been passed by previous Congress.
Congresses.
So, all right, next question we got.
This is John.
John, thanks for waiting around and being patient.
Unmute yourself.
What do you have to ask?
Good morning, Andrew and Blake.
Good morning, John.
Blessings.
Yeah, blessings from Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Thank you.
Blessings to you too, brother.
What's up?
Yes.
So this week is the fifth year passing of Rush Limbaugh, and I was reading a Rush Limbaugh letter this week, and I came across this article.
Smart Versus Educated00:03:31
And basically, it gets into the topic of smart versus educated.
And I thought, especially in light of Charlie and college is a scam, you know, I'd like to get your take on what is smart.
And in your opinion, what is educated?
Blake, you want to start with this?
Man, there's so many ways you could go with that because you could almost say, like, do you view educated positively or negatively?
Because we have so much credentialism in the U.S. You can get a PhD in this country without being as literate as one should be.
They have online PhDs.
They've had these crises.
I think it was at UC San Diego where their remedial math course of high school level math was too difficult.
So they had to introduce middle school level math for college students.
And many of the students in those classes had 4.0s in their high school coursework.
There's a girl, I believe, in Rhode Island who is suing, or maybe, no, Connecticut.
It was in Connecticut.
She's suing her old high school because they graduated her with honors and she cannot read.
She made it through high school entirely using text to speak on her phone.
Her educators for failing her.
You can go that direction.
You can say education, its degree collection has become increasingly meaningless.
But there's also true education, as Charlie would say, bringing forth, I believe, is what is leading forth.
And true education is when you don't prioritize credentials.
You don't prioritize jumping through hoops.
You prioritize the cultivation of the mind.
And that doesn't come from shelling out money for a degree.
It doesn't come from grinding out a test.
It comes from actually identifying what it is useful for a mind to know and cultivating that ability.
That more than any time in the past century, I would say, is reliant on your self-direction far more than whatever you could learn in a school.
Yeah, and I would use different words, actually, as opposed to smart and educated.
I know what Rush was getting at, but I would say wise versus smart and educated, because there's a lot of people with a lot of raw horsepower intelligence that are dumber than Dornell because they don't know what the truth is.
And so you talk about education means you could imagine three things.
You might imagine smart, educated, and wise.
And there are three different ways to go.
Wisdom is a much different word.
It echoes something deeper and more profound.
If you have the truth, so in order to know and to lead forth, what we're talking about the base root words of what education, how we derive that word, to lead forth, you have to know where you're going.
Otherwise, it's the blind leading the blind.
So where are we going?
You have to know the truth, capital T truth.
You have to understand the good, the true, and the beautiful, the eternal things, the things that are worth knowing.
And then you can cultivate critical thinking skills that help you get to that truth, right?
And so this is why Charlie loved Hillsdale College, because it's a learning institution, a higher learning institution that is a classical education that leads forth to somewhere good, that leads forth to critical thinking, deeper knowledge, deeper, more profound wisdoms.
And so, you know, this is why you also love Socrates and Plato and Aristotle.
It's why we studied the classics.
So I would say wise.
Wisdom is in far too little supply.
A lot of smart people that are very, very dumb and that make poor decisions.
And there's a lot of very credentialed people that make poor decisions.
They become educated beyond their intelligence or beyond their wisdom.
So that's how I would break it down.
Critical Thinking and Truth00:07:48
So I would say a couple things too.
First, as a believer, I think if we read in Proverbs, it really contrasts wisdom versus knowledge.
So reading Proverbs, I think, is very helpful to answer this question.
The second thing, just to read a little bit from this article, and just one sentence, really, in this sentence, Rush is talking about the educated class and basically says they are committed believers, but they are not thinkers, yet they consider themselves the smartest people in the room.
And I think we all know some of those.
That's beautiful.
That's beautiful from Rush because what he's talking about is the disconnect between the elites and the credentialed class and the wisdom of the people.
We the people.
And Rush, as this show, is always going to put our faith in the wisdom, the collective wisdom of the real Americans that make this country great.
And there's more virtue in a lot in a plumber than there is in a Harvard-educated PhD student, oftentimes.
Amen.
Thank you.
Thank you.
God bless you.
And welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Please unmute yourself.
Hi, how are you doing, guys?
Doing great.
Good.
I had a couple of questions.
One of them was about whether you could give us any update on the redistricting efforts and where that leaves us in the midterms in terms of like which states are doing it and where is it likely to happen.
And then the other thing I wondered about was: I know you've had, I think it's Mike Lee on talking about the talking filibuster.
And I wondered if we had any info on how likely it is for Thun to do that because he doesn't seem inclined to do it.
And if he did do it, what would that really do to help us with the SAVE Act?
And then also, can you give us an idea if there are any moderate enough senators other than, I guess, what's his name from Pennsylvania?
Fetterman.
Fetterman is.
Right, right, yeah.
Who might actually be pushed by the public if they were interested in this 80-20 issue?
You know, could contacting any of them or Thune make a difference?
So that's what I was wondering about today.
Thanks.
So the update, your first question was an update on the redistricting fight.
Well, we've got a couple updates there.
We had, remind me of his name, the gentleman from Virginia's Senator Glenn Sturtevant.
Sturdivant.
Yeah, so he discussed their plan in Virginia to make it a 10-1 Democrat state that they've been trying to ram through.
That's gotten really interesting just in the past 24 hours because not the Supreme Court, but an intermediate court ruling basically said this referendum does seem to be illegal and they should not continue early voting efforts on it.
And so you're actually getting individual counties in Virginia.
They're kind of creating a state-level constitutional crisis because they're saying they're not going to be proceeding with early voting while other counties are.
It's really becoming a mess there.
I'm not sure which way that will go, but it's really illustrating maybe there is a shot that this could be blocked.
That would be very important for preserving a few seats in this next week.
Well, and a judge rules on Tuesday that new congressional map in Missouri that favors Republicans is legal.
So that's score one for Republicans.
South Carolina is moving forward with some plans to redistrict.
So I would give the slight edge to Republicans right now.
We had a gentleman named Larry Schweiker on the show earlier, and he's been keeping track of that.
It might be time to have him back on the show.
As a matter of fact, he's keeping close tabs on this story.
And I think that we would still have the slight edge here.
It'll depend on what happens in Virginia.
It'll depend on what happens in Colorado if they move forward with their maps.
Slight edge to Republicans, though, just on a pure who's got more out of this, right?
So we'll see.
It's kind of TBD.
And again, we look at our friends over in Indiana for failing to move forward with that.
We're still going for them.
Yeah, we're going to have accountability on that.
Because it was a ridiculous decision, but it is what it is.
And then you mentioned the talking filibuster with, I think you were mentioning Mike Lee, how we had Mike Lee on this week.
Will Thune act.
And she asked, is it good to contact them?
It's always good to contact your lawmakers.
Yeah.
We should get Thune's number.
The best way to do it?
Yeah, you call.
Sometimes it might not even make sense that they react to these things because rationally, a few dozen or a few hundred people calling in, that doesn't represent tens of millions, but they do react to those things.
Politics is about numbers, but also intensity.
People who are more intense and more passionate and more vocal get more of what they want.
Well, we do say that.
Always be respectful.
I will tell you, that is a key part.
And we've got Senator Thune's DC number here.
It's 202-224-2321.
202-224-2321.
So please contact the D.C. number.
And then we've got, I guess, we've got a graphic up here with other offices.
We've got an Aberdeen or Rapid City, Sioux Fall, Washington, D.C. office.
So it's the Washington, D.C. Call the D.C. office, especially if you're not.
Call you can feel it.
Call South Dakota office if you were South Dakotan.
I think that would be the fairest approach.
But the D.C. one, that's where the senator is most of the time.
That's where he's most likely to hear from his staffers.
Oh, man, we're getting blown up about this.
Yep, exactly.
I've worked on those phones myself.
He has signed on to the SAVE Act.
The question is, is he going to do the necessary work to get it over the finish line?
If we have Fetterman that is on board with it, that's not enough, obviously.
But what the talking filibuster would do is it kind of takes it back to what Mike Lee describes as the original intent of the debate, right?
We often refer to the Senate as, you know, the, what's the line they always use?
It's the highest debate body in the world or something like that.
And it really isn't because they don't debate anything because they can't get to 60 votes on anything.
So they just, it's all procedural and parliamentary tactics to block real debate.
Mike Lee is saying, listen, we can debate, and you can debate as long as you want.
Send your people up there until you exhaust your octogenarian senators and Septuagintarian senators and they can't debate anymore.
And then we'll have a vote.
And then 51 votes will take it or 50 plus one with Vice President Vance.
So that's the spirit of it.
I actually love it.
And it's just a question of whether or not Thune will do it.
There are some concerns with the talking filibuster.
I've spoken with senators about this.
There is concerns that the Democrats could game it anyways and essentially break a single bill into its different parts and the amendment process and essentially repeat a talking filibuster over and over and over again.
In theory, you could stay there indefinitely.
So there's concerns about the way it would be implemented.
I think that will go back to Senator Thune and if he's going to put guardrails on a talking filibuster and how it can be implemented.
But President Trump has been very clear.
We will have the Save Act one way or the other.
I'm not exactly sure what he means, if that's an executive order or if he's going to do it by some other means.
We'll see.
He is dead serious about getting the Save Act, whether passed through Congress or the policies implemented in some other way.
I think it's existential.
I think it's ridiculous that you do not need a government-issued idea and to prove your citizenship to vote in a federal election.
So I'm 1,000% behind it.
It's common sense.
I think that's why you see that 83% of Americans already support it.
I don't know what the problem is other than Democrats want to cheat, frankly.
So that's where we're at on the Save Act.
I don't know if we got to all your questions, but I believe we got to most of them.
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So we have a written-in question from let's do no, let's do this one.
Sorry, crap, I'm in the wrong window here.
Let's do the one from Sam here.
He says, have you guys seen, I've heard about the Alyssa Gu one, or Eileen Gu, but I mean about Alicia Liu.
I'm going to mix up these names.
Aileen Gu is the freestyle skier from America that competes for the CCP.
And then Alicia Liu is.
Just won the gold medal yesterday.
And it was wonderful because she was.
Listen, I've been told that Alicia Liu is a Wokey.
She's a far lefty, but she has not disrespected the country at all.
Her dad fled the CCP China.
He partook in the Tiananmen Square massacre protests.
It was student-led protests in 1989.
He flees to America.
They have been surveilled by the CCP.
The FBI has told him they've been under surveillance trying to intimidate his daughter, Alyssa Liu, from skating for the U.S. team.
She did it anyways, and she got gold.
The first time a woman's got gold in figure skating in 24 years.
Let's have the clip at the other end.
We can go over it.
Fair enough.
Blake's right.
We should play this clip.
651.
It's pretty, pretty compelling stuff.
651.
The Chinese government has never let me go.
They sent spies to the U.S.
The spy actually became friends with me.
I befriended him.
I helped him a lot.
You know, you settled in down in the San Francisco Bay Area.
And I treated him as my friend.
And many years later, he confessed that he was actually a spy for the Chinese government on me.
It really, Liu versus Gu, it really unpacks some interesting trends here because we've had, they're both from the Bay Area.
We've had Chinese Americans in America for a long time, but I think we've been used to them being either just, they've been here ages, or they are anti-communist refugees.
They came here after it fell to Mao, after the Cultural Revolution, after Tananaman, as he did.
He came here after the Tanan Square massacre.
And now we have a much greater number of Chinese in America who are just here to work jobs.
They're fully, they're Chinese patriots.
They're on board with the Chinese system, or at least not critics of it.
And they're really not shy about spreading, using these as means of getting influence.
We've seen dark stuff in Canada.
Can never dump on Canada enough.
We've had actual candidates for office who are just blatantly China loyalists.
There was a candidate for the Liberal Party in Canada who was saying at a rally in Chinese, speaking in Chinese to other Chinese residents, hey, it'd be great if someone basically went and took out my opponent who's an anti-CCP Chinese dissident.
And he was just, he was saying this in the Chinese language.
We've had a lot of cases of infiltration.
We have a lot of cases of espionage.
And one of the things China does is they tend to view all Chinese abroad as essentially they either are under their control or they should be.
They should be subject to Beijing's will.
So they'll send spies to spy on these people, to monitor these people, to harass these people, and in theory, even to kidnap, do crimes to these people.
And we're going to see more and more of this.
I think it's a tale of two.
Well, listen, you've got Eileen Gu, who went over back to the CCP.
She changed countries that she was competing for in 2019 in preparation for 2022 Olympics.
So now she's back.
She fell.
I think she won silver.
She didn't get gold.
And then you've got Alyssa Liu.
Alyssa Liu.
It's Eileen Gu versus Alyssa Liu.
And here she is celebrating being the first U.S. woman.
She raised and born and raised in America.
She's a completely American.
She is the first U.S. woman to win gold in figure skating in 24 years.
It's just an amazing story.
And listen, I don't care what her politics are.
She's done it the right way.
And this is my general theme for all Olympic athletes.
I don't care if you're a Democrat.
You can take care of your Republican, but do not disgrace our country.
And Alyssa Liu has not disgraced our country.
She's shut her mouth.
She's just said, I'm so happy to be here.
I don't care if I get a medal.
I just want people to see my art on the ice.
That's what she's done.
She stood at that podium.
She jumped for joy.
And it's just a beautiful thing.
And I want to say, as a note, so Eileen Gu has made what, $20 million?
She makes huge amounts of $20 million a year because she was willing to renaturalize herself to China, not say anything bad about the government, represent China, was rewarded handsomely.
They wanted Liu to do the same thing.
She was approached.
They wanted her to skate for them in 22 and in this Olympics.
And she refused to do so.
Her father said, was adamantly opposed.
She turned down, it sounds like tens of millions of dollars to proudly represent America.
And, you know, she's a lib, but I would hope that our country is prepared to reward her for that because she should be seen as a patriotic hero for that.
She is.
And, you know, this Eileen Gu, it's kind of a tale of elitism.
She's a Stanford grad.
Her parents were very successful Silicon Valley types, venture capitalists.
And then she took the money.
She went back and took $20 million a year.
And she is annoyingly arrogant.
Play 633.
Do you see these as two silvers gained or two goals lost?
I'm the most decorated female free skier in history.
I think that's an answer in and of itself.
How do I say this?
Winning a medal at the Olympics is a life-changing experience for every athlete.
Doing it five times is exponentially harder because every medal is equally hard for me, but everybody else's expectations rise, right?
And so the two medals lost situation, to be quite frank with you, I think is kind of a ridiculous perspective to take.
I'm showcasing my best skiing.
I'm doing things that quite literally have never been done before.
And so I think that is more than good enough.
But thank you.
If that wasn't annoying enough, here's her posing with Kamala Harris, 655.
This is a very, very fascinating image, 655.
There it is.
She's right there.
And just because she's so annoying, we're going to play her falling, 649.
Two 900s to start things off.
And just look at that air.
Oh.
And Eileen catches a ski on the deck.
Oh, man, that is high pressure.
I mean, gets up, gonna get that ski, but in a two-run qualifying format, she only has one run now to lock in her spot for finals.
What went wrong on that hit?
I mean, this is an easier trick than those first two 900s, a perfect grab.
Just kind of catches the lip a little bit.
And the lip is just the top edge of that half pipe.
And so close.
This is, oh, man.
Listen, I couldn't do any of that.
That clip gives me joy.
Yeah, I couldn't do any of that.
So I'll just say that at the outset here.
But sorry, not sorry.
Not sorry.
I do not have to cheer for Chinese nationals.
Too bad it didn't work out.
Oh, we do have one more.
650.
Okay, so this is JD Vance talking about Eileen Gu.
We have a lot.
Good job.
Good on the prep.
646.
Eileen Gu is skiing for China.
You were at the Olympics at the Open.
Ennis Cantor has said she's a traitor.
Some people have said that this is a treasonous to ski for China and to overlook Jimmy Lai and the Uyghurs and pretend like those things aren't problems is a huge problem.
What do you think her status should be?
Should it be changed?
Well, look, I'm not going to, I have no idea what she should, what her status should be.
I think that's ultimately up to the Olympics committee.
I won't pretend to wade into that.
I certainly think that somebody who grew up in the United States of America, who benefited from our education system, from the freedoms and liberties that make this country a great place, I would hope that they want to compete with the United States of America.
So I'm going to root for American athletes.
And I think part of that is people who identify themselves as Americans.
That's who I'm rooting for this Olympics.
And Eileen Gu responded to JD Vance, and she said, this is 636.
So many athletes compete for a different country.
People only have a problem with me doing it because they kind of lump China into this monolithic entity and they just hate China.
So it's not really about what they think it's about.
Rooting for Americans00:00:40
No, it's about exactly what we think it's about.
You took the money, you went to you're a traitor.
You are judged slightly differently for joining with an authoritarian, despotic enemy of America compared to just if, yeah, if you if your granddad is from Italy and you could only make that team instead of the American team, I don't like it.
I still genuinely do dislike it, and I don't think we should allow it nearly as much as we do.