THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 113 ft. Raw Egg Nationalist — Suicidal Penguins? The Death of Masculinity? Obama Loves Pit Bulls?
X star and author Raw Egg Nationalist joins the ThoughtCrime crew to discuss the week's most indispensible topics, including: -Is masculinity dying, and if so, why? -Why is Barack Obama linking events in Minneapolis to raising pit bulls? -Why is the Trump White House posting memes about penguins with a death wish? Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Raw Egg Slonking Debate00:07:29
What's up?
We got Blake.
What's up, Blake?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Howdy, Jack.
Who's there with you?
And we've got, well, hold on.
We have Tyler Boyer.
And I wanted to also introduce to the audience, I think you may know this guy.
He's someone who has been out there on the interweb, someone who's also, by the way, was somebody who Charlie Kirk was a big fan of and was always sending me his stuff.
So I wanted to get him on the show to try and get him on.
His name is Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, but you may know him better by his online moniker as the Raw Egg Nationalist.
What's up, Brad?
It's absolutely a pleasure and a privilege to be here, Jack.
So I wanted to get, let's get into this because your new book is actually going to be our first thought crime.
Tell us about your new book and what is the thesis.
So I've got a new book just come out with Skyhorse called The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity.
And it's about testosterone.
So it's a follow-on from the Tucker Carlson documentary that I was in in 2022.
So I was in a documentary called The End of Men about testosterone decline, about this civilizational decline in testosterone that we're seeing and its implications for men and also these broader implications actually for politics, for the political system.
You know, what happens when you have a society that's full of men who have basically been drained of their masculine essence.
So castrated, castrated.
So what you're saying is it's sort of like a reverse of what so many people think is going on in society.
See, we think that liberalism, so some people say, well, liberalism is on the rise and that's why you're seeing these new diets, veganism, et cetera.
You're saying it's the opposite.
It's those diets and those, not just diets, but chemicals.
It's kind of Maha, actually.
But it's the synthesis of Maha and MAGA, really, like Trumpism.
Yeah, well, I think for too long people have considered, before Maha in particular, people have kind of failed to consider the political implications of ill health.
And they've really failed to consider the political implications of testosterone decline.
So testosterone, various different, you know, like gold standard studies have showed that actually testosterone is declining in the US and actually throughout the rest of the Western world at a rate of something like 1% a year year on year.
Now that might not sound like very much, but that's a quarter in 25 years.
It's 50% in half a century.
And yes, I mean, I mean, broadly speaking, I think that a lot of these trends that we're seeing today are actually downstream of this biological, this profound biological change that's happening to men and has been happening for decades.
Among other things, you could talk about the rise of leftism.
You could talk about political polarization.
That's something I talk about in the book.
Actually, as men lose their testosterone, I think they're more likely to become leftists.
They're more likely to become leftists.
So, Blake, you've obviously heard about this.
What is your sense of this?
Is this something that actually bears out?
Well, it's funny because I'm of two minds.
It does seem, obviously, we have, if you were to just look at society-wide, I feel like we might have reached peak soy boy or something actually in the past.
Like, it felt like 10 years ago, there was that hipster, hipster aesthetic, the Redditor aesthetic.
That peaked.
Now, when I think about, when I think about young people, I always think about the like the lifting cult guys.
And it's funny because it feels like so omnipresent that you'd assume it's all over the place.
But like 50 years ago, nobody was going out and lifting weights three times a week to be strong.
Nobody was doing a lot of this really ambitious fitness stuff.
But it does seem like testosterone was higher.
I guess since we have the egg stir here, first of all, I guess a lot of people are going to ask why raw eggs specifically, but is it do you think it is primarily an environmental thing, or do you think it's a lifestyle thing?
Or basically, can we act, can an individual fix the testosterone crisis?
Or is this a gigantic scientific public health matter?
Okay, so on the raw egg thing, then, yeah, so raw eggs, raw egg nationalism became a thing really in 2020.
It's the reason I started posting on Twitter.
There was this hashtag going around raw egg nationalism, and it was about people knocking back large quantities, slonking is the technical term, actually, slonking large quantities of raw eggs.
Do you have a slonking record?
What is your slonking record?
I think the most I ever slonked in a day was 28.
So 28 raw eggs in a day.
Is cooking them bad?
Because this just kind of sounds gross to me.
So I didn't take them all at once.
Yeah, I mean, like.
Hark Hogan would.
Hark Hogan would, but I mean, he was a different beast.
You can't look like, I would never tell somebody, don't eat cooked eggs.
Like, if you can't stomach raw eggs, then by all means, scrambled, whatever, cooked, fried, boiled.
But the raw thing is largely to do with, A, the quantity that you can consume at any one time.
So, like, you may have seen Cool Hand Luke, the Paul Newman film, right?
Where he's challenged to eat 50 boiled eggs.
It nearly kills him.
But you can very easily knock back 50 raw eggs, you know, just drinking them.
But then there's also the issue of preservation of the nutrients.
So you get certain nutritional benefits when you consume eggs raw rather than cooked.
It preserves the cholesterol in particular.
And now we've been told for 100 years, you know, that cholesterol is very bad for you.
But actually the opposite is the case.
And thankfully now, RFK Jr. has upended the food pyramid and restored cholesterol-rich foods to their rightful place as the kind of building blocks of the American diet.
But I think this is an individual and a societal problem.
So there are definitely things that you can do as an individual to improve your hormonal health.
Absolutely.
And I regularly give advice on my Twitter account, on my Substack, and in this book.
You know, there are simple things that you can do.
Lifting weights, cleaning up your diet, learning how to cook, avoiding processed foods, sleeping better.
Sleep is a big one, actually, that people really don't pay enough attention to.
So there was a study that showed, for example, that if you double your sleep as a man from four hours to eight hours a night, you can double your testosterone levels because the vast majority of testosterone is produced at night during sleep.
So if you don't sleep properly, you're not going to produce enough.
But then there are these big, I think, societal problems, things like pesticides, herbicides in the food and water, PFAS chemicals, plastic chemicals, microplastics, environmental pollution, all that kind of stuff.
Lifting_weights_and_cooking00:08:03
And really, you know, that's something that government needs to be involved in.
And that's why we need Make America Healthy Again.
That's why we need this grand health campaign that centers on cleaning up the environment, educating people, improving herbicide and pesticide regulations, all this kind of stuff.
So that's the thought crime.
I love this idea because you're combining basically Maha with everything that we're seeing politically that's going on.
The name of the book is The Last Man.
Why is that the name of the book if this is the subject?
Yes, well, so the book is actually kind of based, the book is kind of based on Fukuyama's end of history thesis.
It's a kind of quite a bold reappraisal or restating of what Francis Fukuyama is saying happens at the end of history, you know, the triumph of liberal democracy over all other alternative political systems.
Fukuyama talks about the triumph of liberal democracy as the victory of a certain kind of thymos.
And thymos is this ancient Greek word that was used to describe spiritedness, the things that animate man, that give him motivation, that make him patriotic and courageous, etc.
Well, what Fukuyama says is that actually the triumph of liberal democracy is the victory of one kind of thymos over another.
And so, you know, in a liberal democracy, you can be recognized as equal with your fellow man, but you can't be recognized as better, which is a fundamental aspect, actually, of being a man, of masculinity, of thymos.
Well, what does that actually mean?
It means that we've created a political system that is potentially at odds with certain aspects of the male character and psyche, the drives, the things that push men to succeed.
So not only are we facing this kind of biological crisis where we're being pumped full of pesticides and herbicides and we're eating bad diets and we're not sleeping and we're exposed to blue light all the time and chronic stress, but also actually we've created a political system that is hostile to masculinity.
And so The Last Men is this idea that actually we've arrived at the end of history and we've created a creature, a type of man, who is not fully a man.
And so I post these quite quite big kind of filibusters.
Wait, wait, so what you've done here, I think I figured this out.
You've explained DNT for mugshots.
Maybe I have.
This entire thesis is why we have why they all look that way.
Why they all have this.
It's diet, it's lack of testosterone.
But you're right, though.
It's kind of a spirit or a lack of spirit or a hateful spirit and a resentment.
So this is why you get, and you and I, you were on my show earlier today, and we were talking about the fact that they, so Tyler, did you see how they, I think I saw you tweeting about this, how they used AI on the Alex Predi photo to like kind of like make him look hot.
Yeah, insane, totally insane.
It was funny because it was like, it was like he had slightly askew like eyes and hair, and then he had like a sickly pallor on his skin.
And so they had to tan him up, jazz him up.
Yeah, it was a very strange look.
It looked like legitimately like one of those really obvious face tunes that they did.
They just put him through it.
And that ended up media outlets ran that photo.
That's crazy.
Totally.
No, it's the one they went with.
They rolled with.
Which you do wonder, is this sustainable?
Because as people joked, it was like people would call him a martyr, but they still got the ick from his photo.
It does seem like the termination loop on this is it's just these people can't reproduce then.
And so they just disappear.
And then you rebalance back to something that's a little bit different.
Well, they reproduce.
But they reproduce by other means.
That's why they go after the kids.
That's why they do the grooming.
That's why they have all the stuff in the education.
So they reproduce by going after your children, basically, and taking them over mentally.
So, and this guy who, and we've been doing some reading on this, that, you know, he was this Alex Predi.
And you look at that first picture.
And actually, you know what?
You know what?
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Dr. Tornish Dale, could you describe the diet and the lifestyle of the man you see in the original photo here?
Yeah, the man I see in the original photo is he's a vegan, I would imagine, or certainly he's living on some kind of plant-based diet.
He doesn't get much sun.
I don't think he exercises.
He looks like he's skinny fat.
So, you know, he's got, he's probably got man boobs.
He's probably got low testosterone.
Or rather, I should be talking the past tense, shouldn't I?
Actually, he probably had low testosterone.
Yeah, he's not, he's not a model of the jawline.
They've changed his jawline.
They have, yeah.
I mean, they've chatified him.
They've tried to make him into a giga chat.
I mean, it's, it's funny because, you know, the high mark, I suppose, for this is Luigi Mangioni, right?
Oh, wait, wait.
And mouth breathing.
Mouth breathing, yeah.
He's an habitual mouth breather, too, I would imagine.
He probably has some unpleasant habits.
Don't really particularly want to look at his internet.
Why is it that mouth breathing leads to that very tight neck that way?
Well, what it does is if you, let's say you have an undiagnosed allergy as a child, if you habitually mouth breathe, as your skull is developing, your mouth is open, it pushes your jaw back, it recesses the jaw so that actually what happens is it looks like you don't have a chin, right?
I mean, you do have a chin, it's just in the wrong position.
It's in your neck.
That's really, this is, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's absolutely.
How bad are we talking?
That's insane.
Allergies make you have a messed up head.
They can do, yes.
What are you saying if they're perpetual?
If you're like a child and you have like an undiagnosed pet allergy and you're constantly breathing through your mouth for like 10 years as you develop from a six-year-old to a 16-year-old, then yeah, your skull will not develop properly, your jaw will become recessed and you'll basically have no chin.
I mean, you do have a chin, but it's in your neck and it's back.
That is why people have that's why people are chinless.
That's why if you see a chinless man, he probably is a habitual mouth breather.
They say the same thing about eating hard foods when you're yeah, there's that too.
So, I mean, you know, there's a lot of anthropological evidence.
You know, in traditional societies, diet is much harder.
People chew more.
You know, and in traditional societies as well, people use their mouths to do leather work and make rope and stuff.
So people use their jaws and their facial muscles much more.
We have a very soft diet on the whole.
I mean, if you eat a processed food diet, you're basically just swallowing your food without even chewing it.
You know, it just kind of dissolves in your mouth and passes down your gullet.
And yes, that means that the muscles of your face don't develop and the structure of your face doesn't develop as a result.
This is amazing.
I could do this topic all day.
So the book is The Last Men, Dr. Charles Cornish Dale: The Synthesis of Maha and MAGA, which I just think is really cool.
And Ova, I guess.
I think our Eggmeister will be very good on this topic, which is a very strange one.
And I think people watching are going to be a little baffled by it.
Penguins and Mountains00:11:43
But we need to talk about the penguins, Jack.
The penguins.
And so this one, I think I've had to explain this four or five separate times.
He kind of just explained it with the Thumos.
Yeah, I guess I suppose he did.
But this all happened kind of out of nowhere.
I believe it began, well, it began a decade ago.
But then earlier this week, we had the Trump administration, the White House, actually, they put out a meme, as it were.
Let's put up 480.
And it basically says, like, embrace the penguin.
I can't see the text here, but he just posted this image.
And it shows the Greenland flag.
So everyone was saying, oh, stupid, dumb-face Mr. Trump thought that there are penguins on the North Pole.
But it is not that.
It's actually not about the North Pole.
It's about what the penguin represents.
And we had an additional one, the Department of War, put out their own image saying to embrace the penguin.
That's 478.
Throw that up there.
So everyone's posting about penguins wandering off towards the mountains.
And the weird thing is, everyone's a fan of that penguin because it is committing suicide.
Yeah, that's literally what it is.
So we have this clip.
Is it still clip 487?
Let's play that.
It's from another.
That's not why we like the penguin.
That's not why.
Let's let people judge for themselves.
So let's play the clip from the Werner Herzog documentary.
Blake always does this, by the way.
By the way, Ren.
He always does this.
He tells people what he thinks is the only reason that something's going on.
These penguins are all heading to the open border to the right.
But one of them caught our eye, the one in the center.
He would neither go towards the feeding grounds at the edge of the ice, nor return to the colony.
Shortly afterwards, we saw him heading straight towards the mountains, some 70 kilometers away.
Dr. Ainley explained that even if he caught him and brought him back to the colony, he would immediately head right back for the mountains.
But why?
One of these disoriented or deranged penguins showed up at the New Harbor diving camp, already some 80 kilometers away from where it should be.
The rules for the humans are do not disturb or hold up the penguin.
Stand still and let him go on his way.
And here he's heading off into the interior of the vast continent.
With 5,000 kilometers ahead of him, he's heading towards certain death.
I could listen to Werner Herzog talk, narrate anything all day.
He is headed towards certain death.
No, but why?
This is just another more propaganda to get people away from the ice walls.
Don't go that direction.
Oh, oh, you think that's what this is about?
Don't go towards the ice walls.
No, I'm too.
No, we should do that.
We should do that.
Tyler's the first person who makes the reference to the ice walls, Tyler.
What's behind the ice walls?
I don't know what's behind the ice walls.
What do you mean you don't know what's behind the ice walls?
We don't know.
They don't tell you.
You don't know.
It's certain death.
Obviously.
We know what's behind the ice walls.
Agartha.
Home.
You're definitely going to have to explain to other people what Agartha is.
But no, it is true.
Like, there is a funny thing.
Like, I know you guys are joking about it.
I have no idea what that is.
The penguin basically is a meme because people are saying embrace the penguin's suicidal surge into the unknown.
No, no, no.
It's not what they're saying.
It's not suicide.
They're not saying that.
No.
So there are these, there are like redditors I saw who were saying like, oh yeah, the penguin represents the kind of deranged nihilism of capitalism where we're all just heading towards inevitable doom.
No, it's not that.
Oswald Spengler writes about this.
It's the Faustian spirit.
The penguin embodies the Faustian spirit, the will, the desire to know, the desire to overcome, the desire to transcend and to achieve the transcendental, even at the cost of death.
It's the great impulse that has motivated Western society, Western civilization, and brought it to greatness.
It's what built the Gothic cathedral.
It's what resulted in calculus.
It's what drove us to the moon and hopefully will drive us beyond.
This penguin is experiencing this profound drive, the Faustian spirit, and he's prepared to die.
The way that people have said this for years, the common phrase, the mountains beckon us.
The mountains are beckoning us.
He feels the call of the mountains.
He must go and see what is on the other side.
He must climb the mountain.
He must achieve greater.
That's why the penguin will not stop.
Because as we all know, outside of death, all failure is psychological.
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Man, you're making it sound like we should just make the national, we should just change the national seal and have the suicide penguin as the official bird of the United States.
You know, it's a suicidal penguin.
It could be because you've never climbed the mountain, Blake.
You don't know what's over there.
There could be penguin utopia on the other side.
He's in Agatha right now.
He's in Agartha right now.
Yeah, I mean, I would say we could easily make a penguin our national bird and put it on the seal.
If we annex Antarctica, I'm going to keep flogging that hobby horse.
That's how you square the Greenland circle.
We should just seize Antarctica.
Tyler, Tyler, what's your take on the penguin?
You know, I kind of, I think the penguin is just having a rough week.
And, you know.
Mrs. Penguin told him he's been drinking too much.
We're not even going to say why.
We're not even going to say what causes.
He's slonking too much.
We're not even going to say why.
We're not going to talk about the garbage he forgot to take out or, you know, the, you know, the laundry he was supposed to pick up right away or, you know, whatever it is.
Tyler, this sounds awfully personal.
No, no.
It just.
Wait, you know, speaking of the person.
Nobody's ever been in that position.
It's very specific and personal.
Listen, there's just sometimes a male penguin just needs to run towards the mountains, right?
And just well, you mentioned the schlonking.
I think there's a schlonking connection to me.
I'm thinking back to fourth grade science and emperor penguins.
I don't know if other penguins do it, but definitely the emperors, they sit on the eggs, right?
They kind of just squat on those eggs to keep them warm.
Yeah, they have a huge.
Yeah, yeah, that's in March of the Penguins, right?
The one has to sit there and the others go out to get food, I think.
Yeah, so you can't schlonk their eggs and there's no other eggs.
I have a problem with that.
Maybe that's why they went to the bath.
If you sit on the egg constantly, but you can't schlonk the egg, do you go that you have to flee to Agartha, as it were?
Yeah, I'm pro-penguin.
I'm pro-Penguin.
Me too.
Prature Angelo says, Mrs. Penguin found those text messages on his ice phone.
On his ice phone.
Oh, his ice phone.
Very few.
I like the idea of, you know, again, I think that there is real need, especially when you're born into a community.
You spend in a community.
I think there's probably just a certain percentage of people who have to break away from that.
And that includes penguins, too.
Penguins, there's just a certain percentage of penguins who have to just break out and just get away.
And they don't have Screamo music.
And, you know, I don't know.
Wait, you listen to Screamo music?
And ESPN3 to lean into.
You listen to Screamo music?
I'm just saying that just familiar with Screamo music.
That just doesn't exist for penguins.
So they got to just run towards the mountains.
But that is the spirit.
That is the Western spirit.
That's the spirit that's the spirit of why Turning Point USA was founded.
The spirit that you can do more.
The spirit that you can do something.
You don't just have to be, you don't just have to be a penguin who's in the herd, who's in the flock.
You can go and do something different.
Turning penguin US Antarctica?
No, no, no.
Blake, Blake, Turning Point Antarctica.
Turning point Agatha.
Turning point Agartha, turning point McMurdo.
Turning point Agartha has been, actually, has been actually operating for some time now.
Oh, it has.
Okay.
Tyler, not wait, dude, we're live.
We can't.
Yeah, don't tell them.
Don't tell them.
We must protect your energy crystals at all costs.
Oh, man, we're in big trouble now.
So, but the one thing that I wanted to get into as well, which kind of goes back to Alex Predi is Obama.
Did you guys see this Obama statement that he put out, like in the wake of all this, where he's talking about, oh, we have to support our neighbors and what's going on in Minneapolis?
You guys see this thing?
Yeah, I saw it only because you sent it to me because, Pozo, I don't follow Barack Obama and actively hang on every word that he says, but I understand some people are a little different.
Obama, we do do a show here, you know, and he's kind of like the leader of the opposition, but you know, whatever.
So, so he had this link that he posted up, and he's like, here's resources that we can use to, you know, to support our neighbors.
And it's weird because I guess neighbor is like the new comrade, the new Tovarish, right, Tyler?
Tovarish?
To that, they don't even refer to illegal aliens because they realize that illegal aliens and undocumented, it all just got too wonky and too silly.
So now they're just saying neighbors, which is the weirdest thing.
It's very communist.
Pit Bulls and Pathological Responses00:13:25
But then here's what's crazy, though.
So it links to a Vox article where it says, how to help the resistance to ICE in Minnesota and beyond.
And you scroll down and it's got all sorts of wild stuff.
Yeah, it's got the normal like donate to legal funds and stand with Minnesota, which by the way, I'm pretty sure is very similar to the bail fund that Michelle Obama, or excuse me, Kamala Harris shared back in 2020.
But then if you scroll down, you keep going down, This is the weirdest one.
It says, there are other ways to volunteer.
And my Pitbull is family has been helping vulnerable families take care of their pets, including when an owner is detained by ICE.
And so I clicked on it.
I said, my Pitbull is family.
What is this?
And it says, let's lick discrimination.
Let's bite discrimination.
Let's face off.
Let's get discrimination.
Volunteer with us.
My pit bull is family.
What's going on with the pit bulls?
And why is it?
I'm sorry, what is going on?
Why are pit bulls considered the pet of, and you look at these people, they're all Antifa.
Why is Pitbull like the Antifa pet?
Well, there's well, there's this long history of people claiming that actually Pitbull is a euphemism for a certain demographic, right?
And so when people are talking.
I'm not familiar with that at all.
No?
Well, so they're saying, you know, like pit bulls are only 13% of the dog population, but they commit 60% of the savage attacks.
Is that true?
I think, well, I mean, yeah, pit bulls definitely commit a discrimination.
We kind of covered this before, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No.
Pit bulls are a giant, you know, killing machines out and about eating babies, which they're eating the babies other dogs won't eat, as they might say.
And in fact, I think your friend Cremieu just had a situation with this.
Yeah, Cremu, our friend down in Austin, he was attacked by a pit bull.
And we were just learning today, one of our staffers, they had a parent who was attacked by a pit bull in the past.
And I know our neighbor back in South Dakota, they had like a cousin who was killed by a pit bull.
Like, it's amazing how many of these you can find.
Yeah, killed.
That was an act.
It was sort of, you have less sympathy because they, I think, were running like a breeding operation or they had some like large number of dogs.
And, you know, despite having all those lovely dogs that wouldn't hurt a fly, the dogs consumed them, as it were.
Which is disgusting.
And there's, there's, um, there's a ton of statistics that people can go on this.
So it's America's most dangerous breeds.
And you can find the data.
It's very clear, actually.
Where is this from?
Dogsbite.org, where it says that breeds and types of dogs involved in fatal attacks on humans in the U.S. from 2005 to 2017.
And so this has to do, and this is where people get really upset on this because it has to do with how pit bulls were bred, which happened originally in England.
It did.
So I'm going to throw it to you to explain this to us.
How were pit bulls originally bred?
Well, as far as I know, I mean, they were bred as fighting dogs.
Fighting dogs.
They're bred to be.
I mean, I think they were literally thrown in pits.
So the name comes from them being thrown in fighting pits.
Yep.
So you breed the most over generations, you know, constant cycles of breeding.
You create the most aggressive dog that you can throw in a pit that will rip another dog to shreds for the enjoyment of a crowd.
You know, the most, it's blood sport.
You know, the word bull, that comes from the fact that they would actually have the dogs fighting actual cows, bulls.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah, they wouldn't just fight other dogs and they would fight rats, but they would also fight bulls.
They were savage enough if you threw enough of them in a pit with a bull to kill a bull, or certainly to savage it in a very, very nasty way.
So these are dogs that have been bred that are genetically predisposed.
Their whole existence is violence.
Well, I know, so this, of course, is the thought crime because every single time this happens, every single time we find a story like this, we get, I get flooded with comments.
I should look in the live chat right now where people are saying, where people are saying, oh, that's just a bad owner.
Oh, that's just a bad owner.
They don't know what they're doing.
They didn't train them right.
Bad owner makes it worse, but I mean, it's always in there waiting to get out.
And I mean, Cremio, I think he had the dog on his lap.
He was petting it.
We met him at the Natal Con down in Austin.
Yeah, we did.
He told me the same story.
He said, nice guy, petting the dog on his lap, and it just bites his face.
I mean, you know, what can you do about that other than wage a relentless war of extermination against all pit bulls?
Oh, boy.
So what's the status of pit bulls and bully breeds in the UK?
They're largely, they're largely banned.
And in fact, actually, I was going to say, my cousin in the 1990s was bitten on the eyebrow and still has a very bad scar.
Oh, wow.
They used to call them American pit bulls back then.
Oh, it's funny.
Yeah, which is funny considering they were bred in the UK.
The reason I knew that bulldogs were originally British was because of the British Bulldog, the wrestler in WWF.
Oh, yeah, classic.
So good.
But yeah, I mean, I think there's, so there have been a lot of attacks in the UK as well.
So they've phased out the breed completely.
They have, yeah.
I mean, obviously, you get the like here, then you get the sort of people whining and crying and moaning and saying that it's discriminatory and that it's not the dogs, it's the owners and all the same stuff gets said.
But yeah, they do exactly what they do here.
They attack and kill people, kill women, kill children.
So, Blake, what do we attribute this to?
Because what are you saying and what we're looking up says the statistics are very clear on this, that this one breed is particularly violent.
And look, you can just go to daily.
Well, what's really incredible headline after headline backing it up.
Well, what's really incredible to me, it's like, okay, this dog is clearly a dangerous one.
And what's remarkable and what I think makes this relevant is the truly pathological response that clearly a lot of people simultaneously, there are people who want to get a pit bull because they know it is a terrible dog and they like want to argue that the pit bull is not a bad dog, that it's like misunderstood or or whatever.
I mean, we see it with this charity.
Supposedly, this charity, my pit bull is family, allegedly, it's like, oh, it's just for people who need support with their pets.
But they didn't say, my dog is family.
They didn't say, my pet is family.
They chose a pit bull.
If they have that photo that we took of their like table that they have, like they have a freaking pit bull mascot.
And like they really lean into the pit bull imagery.
This is specifically a type of dog that there's a ton of them in shelters.
Why are there a ton of them in shelters?
Because they're horrible dogs.
And so people have to ditch them because they bite their toddler, but they don't want to put it down.
And it's truly, it's an insight into the psychological state of a lot of people, not exclusively on the left, frankly, that they want to go out of their way to get the dog that is more dangerous for them, to get the dog that is more dangerous to other people, as I suppose, a form of pretty aggressive virtue signaling, either because they want to prove that it's the owner, not the dog, until they turn out to be the bad owner whose dog goes nuts.
It's this true will towards ugliness, this will towards danger.
What ended up happening with this?
I think you're right, though, is like they know it's dangerous and like they want it to be which kid, like that's what they wanted.
What happened with that kid in that video?
I'm not sure.
I think we just got b-roll on it.
But yeah, there are definitely I get, I've got into like the algorithm on Instagram.
I follow every victim of every pit bull attack.
I don't know why it just pops up on my stuff, but like, well, if you guys are not doing it, they're going to find out there's algos.
But there's a lot.
Yeah.
There's a lot of pit bull attacks that are completely underreported.
It's crazy.
There's probably, so this is the question I have, especially for thought crime.
Is there more damage done by pit bulls or by school shooters?
Probably school shooters.
What would define damage, though?
No, I know.
No, I'm genuinely curious.
Dogs, as bad as pit bulls are, they don't kill that many people in like a national context.
I think maybe what, like 10, 15 people get killed by pit bulls a year.
Okay.
I mean, that's.
Yeah, but I mean, how many, what I suppose you have to do is you have to do some kind of per capita analysis.
But it's like every year and then we're like across the world.
And like, I mean, there's that's part of it.
I think pit bulls are an American thing.
And like, and like America and its cultural imperialist sphere, I don't think you're going to find pit bulls if you visit Italy or something.
But part of my point is I think that a lot of this actually goes severely underreported.
I think there's a lot more pit bull attacks happening in America than we actually even know about because nobody ever talks.
I tell you, I see a ton of this content.
Yeah, I guess it would only go if it got reported to the hospital.
There's probably a lot of people who just get bit and just tough it out.
I mean, there's people, I mean, that I mean, again, yeah, like nobody ever gets held to account either.
Like, where people, I mean, this happens a lot where dogs will attack.
And you hear, obviously, about people suing each other over dog attacks, but there's also probably significantly more people who actually never sue their family member or whoever for a dog attack.
Like, you're not going to sue your own family most of the time when you get attacked by a dog.
Just doesn't happen.
Excuse me, it's not reported.
No, and it's something where, like, I think, so obviously, right, the thought crime here is the question of the tabula rasso, right?
This is the heredity, the you know, heredity, genetics.
You know, is there a reason that, you know, people from certain countries are a certain way, you know, the Somalis, the, you know, Europeans, whatever.
This is the thought crime that that comes up.
You know, can you overcome your heredity?
Can you overcome it?
And certainly you were just talking about that with your book, is to say that there are lots of factors.
It is kind of a hodgepodge of all these different things.
However, there is still this innate nature.
And twin studies have borne this out over and over and over again.
Go read the book Blueprint if you want to check that out.
But also, I think maybe if we're doing a PSA, it's, hey, guys, if your dog's not good around kids, get the dog out there before anything bad happens.
And if you do have a pit bull, then maybe just don't bring him around kids.
Also, embrace the message from Obama.
They embrace the message from Obama that pit bulls are a lib breed and a lib cause.
I say that only because two years ago, Florida banned local bans on pit breeds.
They basically said you aren't allowed to ban pit bulls from things.
I don't know why Florida did that.
They had a good run on a lot of things, and that is a terrible law.
Wait, I'm sorry.
Wait, answer me.
Florida.
Florida at the state level banned local bans on pit bulls.
So you, you, you can't stop.
You can't stop.
You basically can't ban them.
You can't like locally, like a local community can't put in like a city or town ordinance against pit bulls.
Yeah, or like a public housing ordinance against it.
Yeah.
Or like even like an HOA couldn't like ban pit bulls.
No, no.
So that was that was a big mistake by Florida, in my opinion.
It's like when they get psyoped into those hair discrimination.
Yeah, but Pitbull the rapper probably would be really upset with a pit bull ban in Florida.
I'm just saying.
Could we ban Pit Bull the Rapper?
No, but I mean, it's just bad for business if there's a Pit Bull ban.
I mean, that's bad for business if we ban rappers.
That headline, Pitbull ban Florida.
Like, that's not great for, I mean, I bet our record label probably had a lobbyist involved with that.
You might be right.
Just saying.
No, send in your comments, send in your questions.
What do you think about the pit bull question?
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