The Silent Majority, The ADL, The Super Bowl, And More
The Anti-Defamation League is finally ending its defamation of Charlie, with its new announcement that it is getting rid of the page listing TPUSA as a hate group. Show guest Tim Pool reacts and discusses how far "cancel culture" should go with punishing those who celebrate Charlie's death. The show staff debates the merits of far-left radical Bad Bunny as the Super Bowl halftime performer. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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We are uh honored to be joined today by the one the only I think you're like what are you, the record holder of YouTube streams or something?
You have I don't know.
Most YouTube streams of all time.
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There's I think we talked about this once, and I think it was a pretty remarkable stat.
Anyways, this is uh Tim Poole.
Welcome to the show.
Thanks for having me.
It's an it's an honor and a privilege.
Well, uh it's honored an honor to have you, and uh I got to do your show on Monday night, and that was a great experience.
And uh I just you know, with everything going on, Tim, and we'll get into it later.
You know, thanks for making the trip.
I know it's it's no small feat.
Security is is a huge, huge it's a very large challenge.
It's very expensive, but uh I I again honored that you uh you have you're having me out.
Yeah, having you on my show is also it's an honor and a privilege.
Awesome, man.
Well, listen, I uh I wanna we have so much news to cover today.
And you know, first of all, I want to give a big hat tip to our team and what they accomplished at Utah State last night.
We had what we have Tyler Boyer was out there.
We had Jason Chaffetz, who was actually there, he was a witness on the day uh at UVU, and we had uh Governor Cox, and I want to explain some of the backstory with the Governor Cox thing, because I know there was some some uh some hemming and hawing and some heartburn over why uh we invited Governor Cox.
And there was also Andy Biggs.
So uh a great showing, and this was actually the largest evening event to date that we have ever done at Turning Point USA at a at a college.
So there was over 6,000 people in attendance for this, and the crowd was fired up.
You can see that if you're watching the stream.
They the the energy in this room, I keep I everybody was texting me.
I was my phone was blowing up.
They're like, it's insane, it's just so great.
Uh and that was despite, by the way, uh some sort of bomb threat or suspicion of a bomb at a separate building.
So it didn't affect this building.
This building was on pure lockdown.
And you know, there was they I think bomb squad kind of detonated some sort of device in a defensive measure.
Haven't gotten confirmation on what exactly what that suspicious uh, you know, uh package was, but everybody's safe, everybody's home.
We're we're grateful for that.
So let's go ahead and play at least uh a couple uh of uh images here.
Let's see here.
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Thank you.
Yeah, it was just completely organic.
The kids are fired up.
We have more tour stops coming.
We're not backing down.
Uh Tim, hopefully you don't think we're told totally uh crazy for doing this, but uh we have to go on.
Charlie would have uh mandated it.
I can tell you that.
Let's call it brave.
In the in the in the face of your fears, you persevere.
Yeah, well, I uh I the kids are doing great, the team is doing great, and uh all the speakers that have been coming out.
I mean, I can tell you the security is extraordinarily robust.
Uh magnitude's more than anything we've ever done.
And um there's a lot of people uh I will just say that are working In conjunction with it.
So take that as you will.
I uh I want to get into something that I kind of think is, and we were just talking about it before the show started.
Something that I think is almost like a little bit of a of a Washington meme.
Like it's in the bubble, right?
We i it it doesn't like nobody seems to care about this story, but it is political news, so I want to I want to make sure we talk about it.
And that's the sh the the Schumer shutdown.
Uh or sombrero gate.
It's sort of snuck up on us.
Yeah.
Because obviously we've been distracted by everything.
And in the background, there was like, oh, there's a government shutdown possibly approaching.
So even I feel a lot of us at Turning Point are belatedly looking.
Oh, we should we should probably know about this because people will ask about it.
It's interesting because before all of this happened, we were talking about it months ago.
We were kind of circling on our calendar knowing that this was going to be a thing, and then obviously what what happened with Charlie, it has totally faded into the background.
And it feels even more so now, Tim, because of everything that happened.
It's just like I I can't explain it.
I can't tell if it's just me living in the bubble that I'm living in, but it just doesn't seem quite like the past shutdowns.
Yeah, I agree.
And and to be honest, last night on Timcast RL, we decided not to lead with the government shutdown story because of the bomb threat or hoax device at the TPUSA event.
And I feel like I we're talking to Jack Basobic about this.
I'm not sure we're that concerned with the government shutdown when we've had uh in the past four weeks four terror attacks.
It's it's the question we ask when we launch every show is what is the big story that people are looking for and wanting to understand about and uh understand.
And the government shutdown matters.
What is the reason for it?
But I think right now, when I talk to regular people, when you listen to some of these other podcasts, big shows, even Joe Rogan, they're talking about what happened to Charlie still.
It's kind of there there's the pros and the cons of that, right?
We don't want to forget Charlie, but at the same time, it's because we're still scared.
And and I'll say I'll stress this again nothing is there's nothing wrong with being afraid.
It's what you do in the face of your fears.
Do you back down, do you give up, or do you persevere?
And I think that's what everyone's trying to do.
So when I saw a video of a of a detonation at one of your guys' events, I was scared.
I said, what are they trying to do?
So was I. Yeah, I mean, there's there's so much there's so much out there right now.
You know, it's funny.
Uh I the likes are not public anymore, uh, but I you can see people when they like your tweet.
And I've seen some high profile people, including Elon Musk, like a tweet uh uh for or a post from that I posted yesterday about this new Rutgers uh poll that says, you know, 50% of people think it over 50% of progressives, left of center people think that it would be justified to kill Elon Musk to advance their political views, or Donald Trump to advance their political views.
There's a new poll out today that is also really terrifying.
But you know, we were talking about this before we came on.
Steven Crowder has felt moved to go back onto campus and you know, basically do his because Stephen Stephen called him Change My Mind.
And now he's he's doing it again.
And Charlie Charlie's and turning points were prove me wrong.
So it's basically the same concept.
Go on campus and have a debate and do it in a civil way.
And uh I'm gonna play this clip.
Uh Steven Crowder uh cut 96.
In 2016, the idea was hey, calling the left on their bluff civil dialogue with anyone to the tune of billions of plays and hundreds of hours, and it got increasingly violent.
And what I didn't tell people, I told people out there, go do this on your own campus, have these conversations.
I advocated for it, and Charlie took it to another level.
He was unbelievable at it.
What I didn't do, I didn't tell people about the threats because I didn't want copycats.
I didn't tell them about terrorists from Yemen through Sweden showing up in East Grand Rapids.
I didn't tell them about concrete milkshakes.
I didn't tell them about my tires getting slashed, about people trying to firebom my car, and maybe if I would have picked up the phone, maybe if I would have used this megaphone to tell people it's real life out there, and the left wants you dead, maybe Charlie would have had a fighting chance.
Maybe I could have done more.
What do you think of that, Tim?
He's completely right.
Uh I've been getting death threats quite a bit.
This is what made it makes it uh currently very difficult to travel.
The whole time I've been doing this, even let's go back to 2018.
I'm on YouTube and I'm like this moderate, and my position at the time was I'm not gonna vote for Donald Trump.
I'm not gonna support Donald Trump.
I'm gonna try and be honest about what he's saying and what's going on.
I'm not here to get political.
I was still getting death threats from the left.
I was still being accused of being far right, the lies, the smears.
As the threats and the violence ramped up, I stopped going on the ground.
I used to, my whole career was field reporting.
I went to Berkeley.
I filmed these protests.
I interviewed people.
The threats got so intense.
Yeah.
The younger generation has picked up that that baton and they're carrying on that legacy.
I became too well known, and the threats were intense.
Where we're at today, even yesterday, in the face of all the threats that I get, where we've we've increased our security, which is already intense.
I have people on the right saying, don't talk about it.
Don't let anyone know because you don't want like exactly what Crowder was saying, you don't want copycats.
You'll make it worse if you bring it up.
I fear this has created a perception for the average American that the right is not facing death on a regular basis for going out and talking about these things.
Tim, keep going, because this is important.
I really wanted I don't want to interrupt this because you're saying you don't you you and others, and Stephen said the same thing that have been reticent to talk about the threats because you didn't want to inspire more.
We got uh in in 2022, we were swatted at my studio 15 times.
We had the bomb squad called out three times.
They deployed robots, I believe, in two of these occasions because hoax devices had been sent, which the standard police deployment could not assess.
They had to get the actual machines out there.
There are people like Cam Higby and Nick Shirley who are currently on the ground.
Just recently, uh someone threatened to kill Nick Shirley on the ground in Portland.
Yeah.
I fear, exactly as Steven Crowder pointed out, that because we constantly are told don't talk about the threats you're getting, these younger guys don't understand how serious the death threats we're getting, why we stopped doing it.
And so they go out there thinking, well, I know Antifa is violent.
I've heard about what happened to Annie No, but as Crowder pointed out, the slashing of his tires, the following firebombing of his vehicles, terrorists from foreign countries showing up.
Just the other day, in the face of the death threats we have been receiving, which you know, we've been in contact with the FBI over.
I have conservatives, people on the right saying, don't bring it up.
Just don't say anything.
It'll get worse.
And then I'm just like, guys, I don't know how much worse it can get.
Maybe we need to actually try a different strategy and say, hey, look, this is very real, it's happening.
We need everyone take it seriously.
I think uh a reasonable thing to uh speculate on is we we have to take it more seriously in the sense of actually what we should do is we should make sure these things are investigated, and if they are uh if they're able to make an arrest, you have to punish that harder.
You're just gonna say if you're going to make actual threats to kill somebody, we're going to put your face on the internet and we're going to put you in jail for five years.
And as longer than that, like as they say, or longer candidly.
And just like dox people with their address of people who threaten people.
So just so we're clear, it is patently insane to say, you know, to threaten somebody's life.
I'm going to kill go out of your way and say those words.
And and yeah, I mean, I've seen some of yours.
You've showed me, and they're insane.
They are graphic.
The left's goal is the heckler's veto in these radical campus activities.
They want to use threats, they want to use menacing, they want to use bad behavior to stop people from exercising freedom of speech.
Well, and that when that is crossing the line to succeeding, it has to be punished for real.
It has to be punished extraordinarily hard.
I I completely, completely agree.
One thing we haven't talked about, and I'm I I totally agree with the fact that we need to change our strategy because there's just too many data points right now that show that the left and especially hard left and younger progressives are getting extraordinarily radical.
Right.
And so we need to also attack the funding networks.
And I will never get this out of my head, Tim.
The last text message that Charlie sent to Stephen Miller said we need to address the financing networks of those groups that are fomenting violence.
It was the last one he sent Stephen Miller.
And if I trust anybody to be a dog with a bone on this stuff, it's uh Deputy White House Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, who he and and Katie have been com you know completely harassed by these people and and uh docs.
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Thank you again for coming, Tim.
What's it uh, I don't know, what's it like to be in here?
I mean, I know that you guys did your show here once.
I know.
And I think you sat in Charlie's chair.
I wanted to sit in the chair.
Uh man, wow, when I walked into the building yesterday, uh, or two days ago, we were we were doing our Tim Castarell show from you guys' headquarters, we came out, and I remembered the studio that you guys had so graciously built for us so that we could come and do this.
The the extent that the TP USA team and Charlie went for us to have us be involved in what you guys had built, uh it it it it is beyond an honor.
It it's you know, every every I I describe this job as uh being sysyfist pushing the rock up the hill.
And I've I have a lot of companies that say, Hey, come on my show, hey, will you what can I interview on this?
And it's always it's always a chore, it's always work.
There's only one time it didn't feel that way.
It I I described it as when when you guys extended that offer to come out here, it was like all of a sudden the weight of that rock had been gone, and I looked to my right, and Charlie is pushing that rock up the mountain and says, We got this.
Come be a part of what we're working on.
And I could finally relax.
You not only built us a studio so that we could be here, and again for us now, but when we had technical difficulties, brought us in and said, You can use Charlie.
Charlie says, You can use my studio.
You can sit in my chair, do your show, we're grateful to have you.
I walked in on Monday, and those memories came flooding back of that that that feeling, and then instantly it was cut in half by the by the knowledge of what had happened to Charlie, and I almost started crying.
Man, it's it's it's it's tough.
Well, Charlie always loved having you at our events, Tim, and you I think you're a really important voice, and you you occupy a lane and you do it in such a way that I think really engages, you know, a whole different audience, right?
That that we couldn't reach or weren't reaching is or maybe we did, I don't know.
But like the point is, you did a you do you do a great job, and we were honored to have you, and um still honored to have you.
That's why I reached out because it was like I appreciate it.
Tim needs to be here.
Tim needs to be a part of this.
I looked up to Charlie.
He's he's younger than me.
I looked up to him.
I can't believe the amazing thing that you guys had built.
And you know, he's come on my show a couple of times, we've got these these hand drawings, we've he's autographed them for us, these posters.
And so when I come here and I see everything that you guys have done, when it's the craziest feeling in the world for you know you and Charlie to have been like, no, Tim, you gotta be here.
And I'm like, Me?
Like what are you guys talking about?
This is so amazing I I I it's it's it's beyond confidence building.
I'll put it that way that way.
Well, you've earned it.
You've earned it.
Yeah.
Um, I want to play, I want to show this image for the audience.
We're talking about left-wing violence, and I'm gonna get into the ADL in just a second.
But you look at this.
This cut, uh, this would be 300.
Put this up.
Majority of strong liberals, a majority, which means more than 50%, say violence against the rich can be justified.
Nine in ten conservatives say it can't be.
Violence against the rich.
Tim, why are we seeing numbers like this?
And where did this come from?
You know, I blame social media.
There's a clip going viral right now from Joe Rogan's show where he's talking about how he's shocked.
So many run-of-the-mill liberals, teachers, doctors, have been celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
And with all due respect, because I think Joe's a great guy, I told him this on his show six years ago.
We sat down with the executives from Twitter, Jack Dorsey and Vijayagada.
And I explicitly stated, one of my key points of the show is that if you create this bifurcation in the world, and if if you do not allow people the ability to speak and come together, I'm gonna build a van and go live down by the river because it's gonna it's gonna go, it's gonna be civil war.
It's gonna be crazy.
What I see now is I am pessimistic.
I hate to say this, people call me blackpilled.
But when you have social media platforms that allow monetization and social growth from celebrating assassinations, you will get more of it.
Young people were told after the assassination of Brian Thompson in New York that assassins are celebrated by the left on social media.
And they told me, you know, YouTube, X, all these platforms, well, Twitter before Elon bought it.
Celebration of death is against the rules to celebrate murder and violence is against rules.
You'll be banned for it.
After Luigi Mangiani was arrested, accused of killing Brian Thompson, they made sainthood candles of him.
Social media celebrated him.
Nobody gets banned, nobody gets suspended.
We warned, Charlie warned.
This was creating assassination culture.
Charlie warned a lot about that.
Look where it brought us.
Look where it brought us together.
Charlie, yeah.
It's not changed.
I mean, we've got real quick, like we had, you know, in advance, I believe, of the Utah State event, we had a table out.
And it's not just obviously the the big threats or the big violent actions, it's all the stuff that lies beneath it.
So we had these left wingers just kind of walk up and like throw everything off the table and attack it.
And someone, we're not going to show it, but someone handed a pencil illustration of Charlie being shot just to the person at the table.
Like that little elements of informative.
Oh, was that NAU?
That's where it was.
That was where it was in our university.
NAU.
And they they hand a note of Charlie being shot.
Like, ha ha, here's your this person you may have met just dead.
It like this level of like nastiness, like going down to the core that you've cultivate in these little ways, and it turns into this big violence when it's indulged.
So, Tim, why don't you explain for the audience what's going on with the ADL?
The ADL had turning point listed as an extremist hate group.
Uh meanwhile, it was it looked like it was apologizing for Antifa.
Indeed, they were.
It was their glossary of terms.
It's fascinating.
Basically, everything was racist.
Did you know that I I think numbers one through 60 were considered racist?
I'm not even kidding, like that's lawsuit.
It's like, here's why number three is racist.
And so they have turning point USA listed in their glossary of terms, describing it as a you know like a hate group or something that affect.
They've since gotten rid of the whole thing.
And I think at least they're starting to recognize the role they played in the avalanche.
The saying goes, the snowflake doesn't blame itself for the avalanche.
Each and each one of these NGOs, these these organizations, they make money, they receive donations when they accuse people on the right of being Nazis or white supremacists.
But you know what the problem is, they uh strip mined the whole place.
There were no white supremacists left to condemn, so what could they do?
Well, uh move over to regular old conservatives and accuse them of being racists, I guess.
Which has created this culture.
I think all of that has played a deep role in the bifurcation of the moral worldview in this country.
Liberals don't actually know who Charlie was and what he believed.
And they were shielded from actually being exposed to it by the lies of these organizations.
So they would tell these liberals, Charlie was a racist white supremacist, don't listen to him.
Then if someone ever said, watch this video of Charlie, they go, No, I'm not watching that.
I refuse.
And same thing with was true, is true for Trump in the political space.
It's good they're getting rid of it.
I'll give them credit for that, but we still should recognize the problem and what they're doing.
It's amazing how uh effective these lies can be.
I I'm reminded of when Charlie was at Oxford and they, you know, you have to point and counterpoint point and counterpoint that sort of thing.
And Charlie just just dismissed that one gal, like out of out of it.
I think it was a professor who parodied the Very Fine People hoax.
Yeah.
All these years later.
The very fine people host got repeated again this week by Nicole Hannon Jones in the New York Times.
In her article bashing Charlie.
You're right.
Yeah, I mean, it's just amazing how how that happens and how insulated the algorithms make people, right?
So that you you live in a an information bubble.
You know, you know what's funny?
I'm not a conservative.
I mean, maybe by today's standards.
So what am I?
Well, I'm a Chicago urban liberal from a working class firefighter, you know, first responder kind of area.
How am I finding myself in this place?
Well, my biggest concern from the beginning of this was the truth, what's really going on.
And so I enter the space because when I was actually on the ground covering news, I'd see CNN lie.
I'd make a video Being like, here's footage of what really happened.
Liberals were not happy with this.
They when I went to Sweden, Donald Trump had that famous moment on TV in 2017, last night in Sweden, he said, and so I did what I always have done.
I said, I'm gonna go there and film vlogs and many documentaries about what's going on.
I had journalists messaging me saying, Don't do it.
And I'm like, I don't understand why why I'm and they said Trump's lying.
I said, Great, I'll prove him wrong.
They said, No, no, don't go.
That's how insane is.
Today we have this this shutdown.
The big debate is why did it happen?
Trump says they want to give illegal immigrants healthcare, government funded health care, which is correct.
That is the truth.
I go on CNN and says fact check false democrats don't want to.
Why?
Because the Democrat argument is if you entered the country illegally, but claim asylum after the fact, you are now a legal, you are a lawful uh uh immigrant.
Yes, just by virtue of whether it's been adjudicated or otherwise by saying so.
Now, if CNN told me that and said the argument between Democrats and Republicans is I would accept their news company as a news company, but they don't.
They omit all of those details.
I go to the bulwark, same thing.
Republicans are lying, ignore them, don't listen to what they're saying.
I go to the National Review, they tell me the truth.
Interesting.
Yeah, I mean, it's all it's just a it's a argument over a definition of of a term.
We think those people are illegals.
Like, and by the way, every time we try and change the status for temporary protected immigrant or whatever, and or you know, whether I I guess DACA would be included, these asylums, we're trying to get rid of them because that we believe that they were given the the status illegally or fraudulently.
You you run into judges that will will block them.
But here's I mean, it's it's a essentially it's a a patent a pedantic argument, and you're you're right.
The news does not want to give you the truth.
They want to cover for their side, they are activists uh in j in journalist clothing.
And I mean, I think everybody's just getting really upset, like getting tired of it.
However, there is this contingent that we're seeing on the hard left, the progressive young left, that obviously doesn't want the truth, they just want to kill their enemies.
Yep.
And everything else feels like, you know, pointless now.
And this is why what a the ADL has done.
Now they've deleted their entire glossary of I guess their hate hate glossary or whatever.
So you can't look at it anymore.
But this is what they said about Antifa before.
We talk about lies and truth, right?
Antifa, a decentralized leaderless movement.
So nothing to see here.
That's a lie.
I can confirm that.
Composed of loose collections of groups, networks, and individuals who are vigorously, vigorously.
It's like a, you know, it's an oddly positive way to say it, opposed to fascism, and focused on countering right wing extremism, both online and on the ground.
And this is where it gets really egregious.
While some Antifa adherents have engaged in violence or vandalism at rallies and events, this is not the norm, despite disinformation campaigns that suggest otherwise.
Well, as a journalist who has been on the ground and inside of their meetings, I can confirm that's all lies.
They they engage in what's called the diversity of tactics.
This is the term they use.
They have meetings where they invite these peaceful protesters to join their direct action meetings where the leaders, the financiers and the organizers supply tools and signs and resources and a plan.
So there's an effective leader, they they work international.
We call them the tourists, because somehow the same people in New York are in LA and Turkey.
And then what happens is they tell a certain group, everyone wear the same clothing.
You wear black masks that way, when our agents get violent, they can't convict us.
It is coordinated.
They have legal, they have they have progressive NGOs that specifically go out to provide leg free legal defense.
Watch these videos, you'll hear them yell, what's your name and birthday?
And as they're getting arrested, they yell their name and birthday.
Why?
The legal apparatus they have as an aside to their groups, then goes to the legal system, creates reasons by which the person busts me must be released.
They exploit our speech laws, our criminal laws, and our court systems, so they can engage in this violence.
But I'll just say one last thing.
The money comes from somewhere, the signs come from somewhere, the marching plans, what route they're gonna take comes from somewhere, and they're all flying the same symbol.
They got leaders.
Oh, they've got leaders.
And by the way, in places like Portland, you know, we had Tom Homan in the studio yesterday, and you know, you've got this ongoing battle in Portland to defend federal property and the ICE facilities that are by the way getting snipered in places like what there's been three ice facilities that have been shot up, right?
Uh illegal immigrants in that instance died in in Texas.
So you've in places like Portland, where the local leaders are like, nothing to see here, everything's safe and peaceful.
I mean, they have allowed these Antifa militant groups, these guerrilla groups, to grow and fester and unabated.
I mean, it it they they are absolutely organized and they they run the city.
Proof of the city.
Well, I would I what I would say.
I would actually point out like the decentralization thing is actually fairly true, and it's how they get away with a lot of what they do, which is they are able to any time someone you know reaches out, they sort of melt away and all of that.
And so you do need unusual techniques to go after them.
We need to update our techniques and that's the so like when you say like go after the funding networks.
A lot of the people in Antifa are huge losers, which means they don't need a lot of money to do things.
They're the sort of people who are willing to be quasi-homeless or live out of a really crappy apartment, and all they do all day is go menace ordinary civilized people.
But I think it doesn't take a lot of money to do that.
The decentralized thing is is a tricky uh position.
The when the ADL says they're leaderless, I don't believe for a second the ADL does not understand how these systems operate.
I think they're intentionally covering for the left uh for legal reasons.
So in these direct action meetings, they will explain to you why the leaders must remain nameless.
They they have explicitly stated at all the meetings, I've been to maybe like a dozen of these.
They say if our leaders come forward and they're visible to law enforcement, they will be targeted, arrested, or smeared in the press.
So while the leaders do exist, you meet them, you shake their hands.
There has to be leaders.
Any system eventually people rise up and they become the leaders.
Even lobsters have leaders.
That's exactly right.
Yep.
So somebody is telling people where to go because anybody who's worked at a Walmart or a Baskin Robin, sort of, understands some people are management, some people are not.
And why is the ADL then claiming it's not it's it's leaderless, other than to just call it?
You know what bothers me, and you you had a great bit on this earlier, uh, Blake, a couple shows back, where we're talking about this both sides is them, right?
I went on Smirkonish on CNN, I believe the weekend after it happened.
And you know how you if you do like a news hit, they they plug you into the program feed, you kind of hear the program before your interview comes up.
So you're sitting there watching the show.
And you know, Smirkonish is an okay guy.
I'm not I'm not I I really don't have any particular bone to pick up, but I got inflamed that day.
And it took everything in me to just keep it down the middle on the fairway because I had to sit through a whole this is both sides, both sides need to tone down the red, or both sides need to do this.
And I'm I'm sitting here going, like, you guys have no idea what our side has been up against for so long.
And guys like you and guys like Steven Crowder and guys like Charlie knew it and and he knew it, and you guys know it firsthand because the death threats and the threats are very real, and there's the calls with the FBI are very real, and you're constantly trying to play whack-a-mole with this stuff because groups like the ADL whitewashed it and they cover for it.
And this is again why I got so mad at Jimmy Kimmel, because he that was a tacit indication, a signal saying we're gonna whitewash when people kill conservatives.
We're gonna lie about it.
And by the way, when you tell me I can't, I'm gonna double down on it because I don't think you you deserve the truth.
We we saw this uh Cato study, they say the right is responsible for more extremism, more violence.
What they're really doing is they're saying, um, fringe sovereign citizen and white supremacist extremists are the same thing as Charlie Kirk.
That's what they were trying to do.
I I look at that and I say, okay, I yeah, I literally don't care.
Is what is the motivating ideology?
This guy attacked the LDS church.
Was he motivated by uh Speaker Johnson?
He he wasn't.
Okay, well, the concern we have when we say the left is that AOC went on the House floor and espoused the same ideology as the alleged assassin.
That is where we say, wow, this I this ideology of the liberals of mainstream liberals, moderate democrats, is held by violent extremists.
We are concerned about how violent they have gotten.
Well, they then say the right is doing it, but you can't compare Steven Crowder or Charlie Kirk to some clan guy in the middle of Nebraska or who knows where.
Well, and by the way, you you made the point though that a lot of people were quoting the ADL crime sort of data, some study, and it wasn't it done by a guy that was connected somehow to the Antifa.
Oh, yeah.
So There's several different studies.
I don't know which I can't remember which one.
This one this might have been the uh like uh can't remember the name.
But yeah, one of those studies they were passing on was just literally made by an Antifa activist.
Uh there was like three or four databases that they were like always sharing that do this.
Pull up pull up the A ADL heat map, the extremism map, and right wing has right wing white supremacy, white ring white right wing anti-government, and right wing other.
Meanwhile, left is just one thing.
If it's not a Marxist Leninist who blew up a building, it doesn't count as left-wing violence.
For instance, the killing of Aaron Danielson didn't count according to these studies as left-wing violence.
Jeez Louise, are you kidding me?
It's true.
Huh.
Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's like as far as you want to go down the rabbit hole, right?
It just keeps getting worse and and uh we something has to be done, and I think you're you're spot on that we're gonna have to adjust our our tactics to to you know confront this, or we're all in deep, deep trouble.
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Oh, yeah.
Right?
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We haven't actually talked about the shutdown yet.
We were like, we gotta open with the shutdown, and then we didn't actually talk about the shutdown.
We might want to get we can.
I don't know if we feel like it.
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Um You know, I I wanna I do kind of want to talk about Sombrero Gate just because I think it's fun that we are that are the president of the United States is trolling trolling Dollars Dore Obama and uh shut down Schumer.
What's great is they're gonna scream that it's racist, and I like guarantee they already are.
And that but I guarantee that actual Hispanics, like especially Mexican Americans, will find it extremely funny.
Because it's the same thing with like speedy Gonzalez, where like they would all complain that that's racist, and actual Mexicans love speedy gonzales.
Like the Mexican Americans generally really like like Mexican themed like humor and cultural stuff.
Uh so we got it.
I I totally agree.
Even with the the the uh taco taco bowl.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, the best taco bowls.
We love Hispanics, you know.
I mean uh let me see here.
Do we actually have the okay?
I think this is uh 85.
Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it.
Nobody likes Democrats anymore.
We have no voters left because of all of our woke trans bulls.
Not even black people want to vote for us anymore.
Even Latinos hate us.
So we need new voters.
And if we give all these illegal aliens free health care, we might be able to get them on our side so they can vote for us.
They can't even speak English.
So they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke pieces of you know, at least for a while until they they learn English and they realize they hate us too.
My goodness.
Alright, but so this is what's great.
So sh uh Hakeem Jeffries comes out and is like, you can't do this to me.
Like, you're not gonna get me with this bigoted uh which it's not bigoted, guys.
You he's making a point that you want to keep healthcare for illegals as we define them, Tim, not a CNN defines them.
Uh anyways.
Uh so he's making a point about who you're in and obviously many illegals come from south of the border.
So let's uh but so he gets all upset about this.
So Trump doubles down and posts another one.
Play cut 95.
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All right.
Yeah.
So so Trump is is will not be cowed.
He will not back down.
Well, he's investing in the future.
These are clearly targeted at younger millennials, Gen Z. And I think about who would be most offended by these things, and it's your, you know, your your aging MSNBC viewer.
I think I think exactly younger people are just laughing, being like it's good to have fun, you know.
Yeah, that's such a good point, though.
It it like if you had to do a psychographic of who would be most offended by this, it's definitely probably not Mexico like Hispanics.
You you really you they've really eroded their ability to find things funny.
That's why like all the late night shows are so unfunny or their stand-up comics are so unfunny.
Like it's actually the sense of humor is atrophied because they can't handle transgression.
So we get the kind of seal clapping humor where they're just like, oh, what about that Trump?
He's such a fascist.
Oh yeah.
Oh, that's so funny.
You're not wrong.
You're not wrong.
And I I I actually, you know, I said this to a Fox reporter.
They were, you know, because it at some point it got be it became like Colvet versus Kimmel, like I, you know, during the height of that story.
And obviously, Kimmel's still on air, but I told the Fox reporter, I was like, listen, I don't want him off the air.
I want like I don't want to make a martyr of him.
Yeah.
I you know, let him let him, you know, go the way that he should on his own accord by not being funny, and by the left just completely losing their sense of humor.
Uh, not to mention his ratings are that's what I mean.
Yeah.
Like the look, um, with all due respect to the older generation, that's who his audience is.
He gets, I think in August, he was uh average was 129,000 in the key demo.
And you gotta think about how much his show costs.
It's probably ten.
I think Colbert was what, a hundred million a year.
Jimmy Kimmel's got a hundred staffers or over how much.
I gotta tell you guys, you know the numbers.
A hundred and twenty thou twenty-nine thousand in the key demo for your show is not going to cover one hundred million dollars.
No, it's not.
It's not, and by the way, like this show does better in that demo.
Oh, you could you could post a picture of that and do better in the demo.
You know, but like that's what I said.
Like, let him just like he's gonna get Colbert.
They're gonna realize the numbers don't add up.
And you know, in many ways, when Nexstar and Um Sinclair took him off the air, it was kind of pushing against an open door, right?
Like they were they were already there's a lot of pressure within the ABC, you know, brass because the show is too expensive and because the ratings are terrible.
And you know, if you're coming into this kind of controversy, that's that's not good either.
I don't know.
I love how they pretend it's Trump's fault all of this is happening.
Like Colbert got canceled because of Trump.
Oh, yeah, anti-free speech.
Yeah, I thought I thought it was the 40 million dollar loss per year.
Well, and all the lawsuits.
But but's funny is big picture, they're right because uh Trump caused them to make a terrible show nobody wanted to watch.
That's true.
Good job, everyone.
All right, so I played this clip yesterday, but I want to play it again for you.
Um, and like I said, I saw some of the people who liked it and on on when I posted it, and they are people that are certainly being targeted.
So I mean, everybody is aware of this.
Uh, and I don't want to blackpill everybody.
Like, I in my heart, I hope there's a way out of this that doesn't lead to violence.
I really do.
I really do.
I'm I'm not saying you're ever gonna be in a position, Tim, where you can go out and just you know go to the mall.
I I mean I maybe you already do that, I don't know.
But I'm just I I'm hoping that for the sake of the country that this doesn't have to end the way that it very well could, right?
Uh let's go ahead and play cut 57.
I'm gonna ask you about this Ruckers report.
Good morning.
Uh on the network contagion research center.
This is their conclusion, okay.
Users online are increasingly associating the mimification of Luigi Mangioni with calls for political violence against Elon Musk, President Trump, and others reflecting the growing cyber social presence of assassination culture.
And I show you have some findings that they have here on justification.
It's alarming.
Um and I want to put this up here.
This is a justification for murder of Elon Musk and Donald Trump.
And you'll see here, they found that when it came to the left of center, 50% thought that it was justified to murder Elon Musk.
56% for President Trump.
Jeez.
Houston, we have a problem.
There's a way out.
There is a generational challenge.
I would tell everybody have as many kids as possible, because that is the way out, which means there's some speed bumps for the next 20 years, maybe maybe even 30 or 40.
But what we're looking at is the polarization of moral worldview.
Clearly, the right doesn't want to kill people, the left feels it's justified in the majority.
But if you actually break those polls down, what you'll find is that older liberals do not want to kill people either.
The bulk of that bloodlust comes from the younger, younger millennial and Gen Z liberals.
Now there is some light at the end of the tunnel in that, as disturbing as this may be, liberals for the longest time are are either through birth control, abortion, or uh child we'll call the well gender affirming care they call it, creating a generation that cannot have kids and they're having less kids themselves.
We are seeing this trend towards the right in term uh Gen Z is trending rightward.
And it's not just because we are winning culturally through the battle of ideas, but also because conservatives just have kids.
So you are going to have this large co cohort over the next 10, 20 or 30 years as they move into industry and politics that are very violent.
However, they're not having kids themselves, which means it's a wave that we will get through maybe 20 or 30 years from now.
Blake, why don't you talk about I mean, because I could do it, but I I actually just did this on his show.
Talk about one, the having family thing.
Because I know you have a family, Tim, and that's changed you dramatically.
But what Charlie thought about that, but also he was proposing like a moonshot to get young people to buy into America.
Yeah, uh it's funny to ask me about this, because of course I'm I'm horrible on this front.
But uh but you were there for it.
He was yeah, well, he was just very aware that uh when you have atomized people, like individuals whose main point of existence with the world is essentially online because they don't have an IRL as you'd call it, because they don't have a family and they don't have the social networks that a family necessarily creates.
Uh that brings down the country.
It's as you would say, you know, the most conservatizing events in your life, you know, the marriage mating mortgage thing.
Those are all things they increase your stake in society and they increase your connections to society.
When you own a home, you're way more likely to know your neighbors to interact with them.
When you have kids, it's not merely having kids that you care about the future of, but kids naturally create networks with other people.
They go to school, they have friends.
They have social like practice.
Your friends parents will always tell you who are your friends, very typically just the parents of your children's friends.
Yeah, it's true.
And I've seen it with my parents where they'll cycle through my siblings get in my younger siblings would get into different activities, and suddenly, oh, there's this new friend of our family is because their kid played basketball with my sister, sort of thing.
And all of these are what are creating your tethers to the rest of society.
And by extension, your ability to care about society, your ability to care about America.
And we enrich that by having more families with more kids.
When you have a kid, and Tim, I don't know, you you're pretty new to new to this game.
But when you have kids, all of a sudden it changes the way you look at content that you see on on the streaming platforms or whatever.
It changes the way you look at laws or homelessness.
It changes the way you look at how we take care of public parks, you know, smelling weed in public places.
It it it starts forcing you to think about the world in a different way.
I don't I I agree with you.
I think I'm a little different in that I've never liked the smell of weed in public places.
Nor have I. Yeah.
But you know, it's one of those things, by the way, Charlie was super anti-weed, and he would take so much, you know, gruff for it.
Uh, because you know, a lot of people are sort of libertarian about it.
Right.
I'm I'm a bit libertarian it, but I think the answer is culture.
So we're talking about if if you have kids and you instill your your children with your values, laws don't matter.
Laws are for when your society has no trust and your morals have broken.
Yeah, too.
And that that's that's uh a uh a terrifying thought that we have to explain to some people why not to murder.
But if everybody had been instilled with proper values, yeah, it wouldn't matter.
That's amazing, isn't it?
Yeah, and and this is the interesting thing about say the Ten Commandments, for instance, thou shalt not murder.
If you have a if there was a if if everyone in this country had the same morals of Charlie Kirk, you would need no police.
You would need nothing.
In fact, you wouldn't even need a cup of sugar because you can knock on his door and he'd lend it to you without it without without a thought.
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So Tim Pool.
Thanks for thanks for being here, Tim.
You know, thanks for having me.
You know, you know, we were asking people to come in, you know, we're like, oh, you know, people take a day or something, and Tim's like, I'll be there all week.
Well in order in order to do Timcast IRL, I there's no way to travel in and out.
So I was like, I can do it if we can and but TP USA, you guys are amazing.
They set us they set a studio up for the case.
But how cool is that that it's it's you so you're doing your show every single day from because I remember my buddy was when he heard when you were on Andrew was on the other day, he goes, Oh, did Andrew fly to West Virginia because he was just listening.
And and I was like, No, he's right here.
Why?
And I was like, well, but he's there in the room with Tim.
I was like, no, dude, Tim Cast is here.
How did you get him out of his compound?
Um I just want to I was supportive.
We were we were talking about Kimmel, by the way, and I do believe, you know, basically uh there's an article here from Zero Hedge.
Jimmy Kimmel's audience numbers implode after brief spike.
So he gets six point five million for his his night back, right?
But now he's averaged 1.77 million total viewers, uh down like a lot from 2015 highs, right?
And in the demo, you're totally right.
It's like in the 25 to 54 Thursdays episode, hemorrhaging 73% of viewers from that critical category off its high.
Wow.
Yeah, but but remember, so Jimmy Kimmel's show doesn't exist to get ratings.
Jimmy Kimmel's show exists to spread propaganda.
So they do not care.
Well, well, liberal church.
Yeah, exactly.
Right.
They're fake religion.
So it's it's it's it's this is this is the you know, for your liberal boomers that still watch him.
This is, you know, they love it.
They think it's the funniest thing ever.
They think it's the greatest thing ever.
They think they actually did something.
And the fact that it loses money from Disney, by the way, which is of course one of America's most beloved institutions prior to the current ownership or current, you know, managership, is again something to love because uh because remember, uh, they can never create.
All they can do is corrupt and destroy.
And so that's what they're doing, which they did also, by the way, to Jimmy Kimmel, who used to be great.
Let me let me fix that statement.
It's anti-church.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's an anti-Jo.
Now it's better.
That's better.
I was like, where you go in, Tim.
I was reading for my rosary.
I mean to say that it is where they're joking, it's right where they meet their fake high priests of their demonic sermon.
Hundred percent.
100%.
So we talked about sermon, what we wanted to talk about next.
Yeah.
Well, we took what we want to talk about next is something that you've been keying in on, Tim, and that's Dana White and Joe Rogan.
And I think it's a really fascinating kind of conversation that you're do you want to set the premise for us and we can play the clip.
Sure.
I I I excuse me, I have tremendous respect for Dana White.
I'm a huge fan of his business acumen, let alone UFC.
And Joe's a good friend who's uh really helped me out in my my life and career personally, so I I say this with all due respect.
I I it's it is either that they are not actively paying attention or they are deeply scared about what is happening to this country.
And so again, I don't say this with any derision.
Dana White came out recently saying, Oh, we can't have this cancel culture over Charlie Kirk's assassination, it's wrong.
And I feel like something something to that effect that people are losing their jobs.
I've I feel like that misses the big picture.
Joe Rogan has a viral clip right now where he says he's surprised at so many people celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
And the reason I bring that up is well, I've I've been on Joe's show several times and talked to him sp explicitly about this.
In fact, the the Twitter episode ended with me saying I was going to go live in a van down by the river to avoid the coming civil war because of what they were fomenting on the case.
That's when you're on with Jack and Vijaya.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The the systems that they had built ten years ago I had warned about.
So I'm I'm surprised to see uh Joe is shocked by the celebration from these liberals.
I'm I'm wondering if there's actually more of a look, I'm just gonna say it, I'm tired of being over over overly diplomatic to people when I have some critique of them.
And I know there's there's so much that I owe Joe, but I do feel like he's saying these things because he's scared of what the left will do to him and his family, and so he's kind of walking things back and acting like, oh, I I had no idea.
Well, let's play the clip then.
Um here's Joe Rogan.
Uh play cut ninety nine.
Yeah.
I I never expected so many people would celebrate that man's murder.
That is evil.
That's bizarre.
That I think think they're good people.
And they think they genuinely think that guy was a bad guy.
And I don't think they're right, and I think they were indoctrinated.
And I I don't agree with everything that Charlie Kirk said or did.
I don't care if he was a bad guy or not.
He's not a bad guy.
I don't want to see him.
I don't want to see anybody die.
He Joe's called them a cult before.
So I know he just said they were indoctrinated, but I saw that, and I'm just kind of thinking, I don't know how you spend as many years in the cultural space as you have and find yourself surprised.
But I I I will cut him some slack.
Perhaps what he means to say is I've experienced a little surprise myself.
Middle of the road liberals who are relatively apolitical that I knew celebrating on Facebook that I was friends with.
Um maybe I should cut him a little bit of slack on that one.
But as to the the Dana White oh, the cancel culture.
I haven't heard this.
Let's play this.
Okay, let's play uh cut ninety-eight.
I'm a big believer in free speech, and unfortunately, probably the most important speech to protect is hate speech.
You're not a fan of cancel culture.
No, I hate it.
On both sides.
It's like all the stuff that's going on with with Charlie right now.
Uh you know, these people are going out and saying stuff and you know, you're seeing people getting fired or kicked out of school.
You don't you don't think they should be fired?
I think you're a disgusting human being if you're celebrating the death of another human being.
But people make mistakes and people are gonna do dumb things.
I don't like trying to destroy people's lives um over doing something dumb.
Yeah, so I just drank a form yesterday and I'm like, I want to like throw up after that's his energy drink.
I'm like, that's that's that's the dumbest thing.
That's literally the dumbest thing.
So cancel culture is when you dig up someone's like old statements and try to get them kids.
Like when you when you like what you say that's I don't think police are.
Or or at least if it's like something they say, like people just lost their jobs because they said, like, I don't think there should be riots.
People lost their jobs because they said I think riots might hurt Democrats in the elections.
How about people lost their jobs for that?
How about Vivek Ramaswamy?
He didn't put an appropriate image on Instagram and he got a uh a letter from his like his board wrote him a letter being like you weren't sufficiently angry over.
Yeah, that's not that's not cancel culture at all.
That's people saying, I don't want my my ch have to bring my child to a doctor's office that has that doctor or has that nurse or I don't want that person working in my HR department because you're celebrating someone's murder.
That's totally different from cancel culture.
It's not even in the same ballpark at all.
I don't uh honestly, you are correct, but I'm gonna say this.
I don't care make it cancel culture, and I'll tell you why.
The line for the left, and this is to your to your point that you're correct on.
The line for the left is you said something that disagrees with our pseudo our our non-theistic religion.
Yeah.
The right has said, don't don't push assassination culture any further.
That's our line.
My attitude is this.
We are at a point where they celebrated the assassination of Brian Thompson, venerated this guy, the alleged assassin.
Not even a year later, Charlie Kirk is killed.
It has come home for all of us who have been begging for it to stop.
I I a couple weeks ago said, I won't call for these people to be fired, but I will not defend them.
And Will Chamberlain said, You're too nice.
I think they should be fired.
I think they should be canceled, because a society that tolerates the veneration of assassins and assassinations is a society that has opened the door to civil war.
And immediately I said, You're right.
Yeah, I I'm I'm I'm on that with the case.
This isn't a principle thing.
This is a if we want the country to be saved kind of thing, you need to draw the line.
This is my energy though.
I am I am so on board with cancel culture.
If you if and by the way, one of the things that gave me strength in the immediate aftermath was seeing accounts like Libs of TikTok just like calling these people out, blasting them up, these uh these tweets are going crazy, people getting fired.
I was like, yes, because this is absurd that we would put up with this as a culture.
You should be canceled.
You are a disgusting gross human being if you do that.
And I don't care what happens to you at that point.
I mean, obviously I don't want physical violence against it, but I think you should lose your job.
If if I'm an employer and I find out that my employee is doing that, good riddance.
You're good canceling them back.
That's the key.
With your canceling someone who is celebrating the literal canceling of the man who sat in this chair right here.
And if you're gonna celebrate that, then yeah, you should lose your job, you should lose your pension, you should use your la your rank if you're in the military, whatever it is, lose it, lose all of it.
Man, that gets me fired up, guys.
I'm not gonna lie.
As it should.
Go ahead, Tim.
What happens to our society when Dana White says it is okay for half the population to celebrate assassins?
Yep.
That's the only question that matters.
So you I know people are he said people are gonna be like, Tim, free speech matters.
I say, okay, agreed.
Now let's calculate that let's let's find finish that equation.
You have two distinct moral world views.
One is celebrating assassins consistently now, over and over again.
They're calling for more.
My name is on that list.
You'll get what you asked for.
And so for me, liberal cancel culture was did you offend our non-theistic religion?
You're banned.
My line is when you when you advocate for the destruction of our political systems through murder, I say you should be excised from polite society.
You can come back, forgiveness is always available for those uh who who, you know, perhaps give an act of contrition of some sort.
Because speech isn't the most.
But if we say Jimmy Kimmel, tens of millions of liberals can go online and make money, get followers, build build media businesses off of celebrating assassins, you're looking at Rwanda all over again.
Radio Rwanda.
Yeah, so and and and Andrew, the only thing I would just tweak to what you're saying is we don't celebrate cancel culture, but we will use counter cancel culture to end all of it.
Well, this is what Emily uh one of our listeners says.
It's not it's consequence consequence culture, not cancel culture.
Hey guys, I'll offer you this alternative to cancel culture.
It's not a matter of canceling them for their words, it's a matter of them suffering the consequences of their words.
That was their argument.
That is their argument.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's like I mean, listen, but but like we don't want to repeat, we don't want to repeat their exact lingo because like correct that's their justification for everyone.
But I think that's what I'm saying.
Counter cancel.
This is a single, this is a basically a singular exception, which is you are just not allowed to glorify political violence, period.
So here's here's the quote from Robert Jones.
This is back all the way back in 2015.
And this guy was like an SJW, and he said, he said, we can disagree and still love each other.
This guy's like a liberal SJW type.
We can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression, denial of my humanity, and right to exist.
Uh Yeah.
And that's when the talking stops.
Here's here's the f philosophical reality is that.
When the right was talking about free speech, it was presented as a very binary choice for the average person, but there was always a depth to it.
And that is at what point would a conservative fire someone from their company for something they said?
It always existed.
I said this never has.
Indeed.
I said this of my company during cancel culture peak or whatever.
If someone at my company went on like a serious racist tyrant, I'd fire them too.
If they were posting things about how they were disparaging people of a certain race, I'd say, listen, you don't reflect our values.
I don't know why you'd want to work with us.
It doesn't represent what this company is doing.
The issue.
Conservatives have a wide range of tolerance for ideas.
You can see this in all the data.
That is, if someone said something racist, you wouldn't be like a quick get on my company.
You'd say, let's have a conversation about it and figure out why you're saying this.
Often people would then say, you know what, maybe I was a little gruff, they would get fired right away.
Tolerance was greater for the right.
The left said no tolerance even for jokes.
Well, we found our cancel culture line.
It is no one should be allowed to work in polite society when they're calling for the death of other people.
That's a hard line.
And that's what was so radicalizing, I think about it for people that it wasn't just AOC and Ilhan Omar and Barack Obama who were smearing Charlie and Death.
It was regular people.
Just your your nurse, your HR director, uh, people that you work, people in the military, people who fly airplanes.
I mean, this is serious stuff.
And if you've got people who've got the power of life and death, it literally in their hands every day.
And that's what they believe, you realize how bad the brain rot has gotten in this country.
Everyone knows that even right now, where we sit, there are things that if we said it would destroy our professional careers.
Of course, there's things you don't say.
Conservatives tend to be honest and have always been about what we can and can't talk about, and liberals just said we'll ban you if you defy us.
Um we do, we are working, the studio's gonna tell me, okay, it is ready.
Let's go ahead and throw to this press conference with JD Vance and Caroline Levitt.
to hear what they're saying.
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But nearly every single Democrat senator voted against this bill.
To be clear, this was the exact same bill that Democrats approved six short months ago in March, just adjusted for inflation.
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And individuals and organizations across the political spectrum, across the country agree with the Trump administration and Republicans.
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Senators need to stop screwing around and pass the House Passed Clean short-term funding bill.
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the world's largest business organization, called to immediately pass the Republican Clean CR, saying, quote, shutdowns are harmful to the economy, the American people, and our national security.
And even Democrat Senators Cortez Masto and Fetterman acknowledged that their party is betraying the American people with this costly and chaotic Democrat shutdown.
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The American people want the government reopened, and this is proven in a new New York Times poll showing that two and three Americans say the government should not be shut down by the Democrats, even if their absurd demands are not met.
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Call your Democrat senators and encourage them to reopen the government.
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And with that, I will turn it over to our great Vice President JD Vance.
Great.
Well, thank you, Carolina, and good afternoon to everybody, and good afternoon to everybody who's watching at home.
It's a tough act to follow, but let me just say a few things, and then I'll take a few questions.
Number one, Democrats say that they care a lot about lowering health care costs, and yet, when the president took historic action to work with the drug companies to lower prescription drug prices, the Democrats did nothing to help us.
In fact, we would have loved to have the Democrats helping us, but they didn't.
They talk about doing something.
They don't actually do the hard work of making it happen.
What they have done instead is to shut down the government because we won't give billions of dollars to health care funding for illegal aliens.
That is what has actually happened.
To the American people who are watching, the reason your government is shut down at this very minute is because, despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of congressional Republicans and even a few moderate Democrats supported opening the government, the Chuck Schumer AOC wing of the Democratic Party shut down the government because they said to us, we will open the government, but only if you give billions of dollars of funding for health care for illegal aliens.
That's a ridiculous proposition.
Let me say two two other quick things, then and then again I'll take some questions.
Number one, we all understand that Democrats and Republicans have policy disagreements.
Democrats want to do things.
Look, when Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries were in here a couple of days ago, they made some suggestions that the president was more than happy to say, yes, let's sit down and talk about how we can solve the health care crisis that we inherited from the Biden administration.
But it's one thing to say that we should solve the health care crisis for Americans.
It's another thing to say that we're going to shut down the government unless we give the Democrats every single thing that they want, which, as Caroline says, includes giving billions of dollars of taxpayer funding for health care for illegal migrants.
That's ridiculous.
You don't have policy disagreements that serve as the basis for a government shutdown.
Let's have the conversation about how to fix American health care, about how to make health care more accessible.
As the president showed, he's more than willing to act on behalf of the American people for this very reason.
What you don't do is say, unless you do exactly what we want to do as congressional Democrats, we're taking hostage.
And the hostage, it turns out, is critical, essential services that the American people need.
Caroline talked about some of it.
Let me talk about some more.
Our troops are not getting paid starting today because of the Chuck Schumer wing of the Democratic Party.
We have people who require food assistance, low income Americans who require food assistance, who will not get it unless we reopen the government thanks to Chuck Schumer and his wing of the Democratic Party.
We have flood insurance as we start hurricane season in the southeastern part of our country.
That flood insurance is going to disappear because of Chuck Schumer and the far left of the Democratic Party.
We need to reopen the government.
Let's fix America's problems.
Let's work together to solve them.
But let's reopen the government before we have our negotiation about health care policy.
That's what the American people demand.
And that's certainly what the president of the United States wants.
final point.
I think a lot of Americans are asking themselves, why did this happen?
Why did the Democrats shut down the government despite, as Caroline said, voting on the exact same piece of legislation six months ago?
And there are a lot of different spins that we can put on it, a lot of different answers that we could give, all of them true.
One answer I already gave is that they want to give health care benefits to illegal aliens.
That is true.
They gave us legislative text that would have undone us cutting off health care benefits for illegal aliens.
That's one of the things that they asked for.
But the reality here, and let's be honest about the politics, is that Chuck Schumer is terrified she's gonna get a primary challenge from Alexandria Ocasia Cortez.
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So I'd invite Chuck Schumer to join the moderate Democrats and 52 Senate Republicans, do the right thing, open up the people's government, and then let's fix healthcare policy for the American people.
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Alright, so I think JD Vance is doing a good job.
I mean just a quick note on what he's doing.
You know, when when the vice president comes up and handles the press briefing, you know, you know, he means business.
But again, I can't get out of the fact, get get get away from the fact that this feels like a Washington bubble story, right?
Like the rest of America kinda doesn't care.
Especially, you know, like when they're killing us.
He's actually doing QA right now.
He's doing QA right now, and it's pretty great.
And he he made a good point, uh, Tim, you were like, hey, that was a good point.
Uh maybe repeat it for the audience.
Yeah, Democrats are blaming Republicans, but he was like repo every Republican voted to open up the government.
Democrats are the one who voted it down.
Yeah.
Because they didn't get what they wanted.
Yeah, it's pretty simple.
It's pretty simple, right?
Uh I want to shift gears here just a little bit, and that is to this bad bunny thing.
Which actually feels like kind of lighthearted to talk about, actually.
Like our one was kind of a downer.
I apologize.
I would just like to say, full disclosure, I have never heard of Bad Bunny.
The only reason I know about him is because they inserted him in Happy Gilmore 2.
And I was like, who is this guy that they're making like a main character of Happy Gilmore 2 that I've never heard of before?
And he's just like, oh, it's Bad Bunny.
You don't know who Bad Bunny is.
I'm like, uh who?
I have all of his albums.
Is he a musician?
Is that what he's doing?
Yeah, well, this is the guy that's bad bunny.
He sells those fidget spinners at the mall.
And this is like what's kind of interesting about there he is.
There's Bad Bunny.
He's sort of dressed in female garb or whatever.
There he's really in female garb, uh, apparently.
I think this is like prosthetics and things.
He's, you know.
He's very interesting.
He's Puerto Rican.
Those are natural.
Those are natural.
He's Puerto Rican.
You know, apparently the angle here.
Yeah, I mean, if day Daisy, if you want to come in and fill us in, like, let's just let's just do it.
But but the apparently the angle here is that the NFL is trying to get more and more international.
Americans are not huge on Bad Bunny, at least not compared to the international audience.
This is why the NFL is going to London and they're doing all these things.
And he's really big in like Latin America, South America.
Because uh doesn't he sing in Spanish or whatever?
Well, there you go.
You know, that's and that's why.
So I like Despicino.
We had that We literally had to blur this out.
Yeah, like there are crossover songs, but he doesn't have any.
But something that something that I want to say though is that so I I looked this up, and you know, I actually spoke to some contacts in the industry about this, and they said the way it works with these selections, and people keep as people keep coming to me and they'll say, they'll say, why is it that rock hasn't had a single act in 16 years?
And so for the last at least five or six years, Jay-Z and Rock Nation, so Barack Obama's best friend Jay-Z and Rock Nation have an exclusive contract for uh the Super Bowl for the halftime show, and they actually have a ton of pull when it comes to like the Grammys and who gets to perform and things like that.
So they it's it's a very deliberate corporate push.
That's why you see him inserted into the Netflix Happy Gilmore 2 movie.
That's why you see him pushed up at the Super Bowl halftime show.
It is not because of to Andrew's point, um, it is not because the fans are are clamoring for this, it's because they're trying to open it.
This is what's crazy, and because they have a deal with JJ.
He doesn't even sing songs in English.
He's got no songs in by the way, hi, Daisy.
Hi.
He has songs where other English speakers are on them and they sing in English, but he does not sing in English at all.
That's wild.
Anything that he sings is in Spanish.
And he's also said that he will only sing in Spanish to pay homage to his.
What kind of country are we living in?
Like, this is this is this is America's favorite sport.
I said this earlier.
He was globally the number one most streamed artist 2020, 2021, and 2022.
2024, he was sitting at the third most streamed artist in the world.
And his most popular locations are Latin America, but second to Latin America is the United States.
Well, I wonder why.
This is like some s satanic video.
Do we care?
Do we care?
This is kind of like we should care because this is you know, this is what they would c say cultural colonization, right?
So people would say that, oh, when America pushes cultural colonization across other countries, you know, with American movies and American film and portraying American values, this is reverse cultural colonization to America, where because we've taken in so many millions of migrants from Latin America and South America that have come up now.
Now America has a market for this that is totally different from the core American population.
And that's why they're trying to merge that by putting it in with the NFL, which is obviously an American institution.
They're saying, Oh, well, you know, we can we can merge these all together now.
And again, they're they're going for that market share.
It's literally just a business move because of these massive fluctuations in our culture.
I I was a big fan of uh Taylor Swift being in all these football games, and people had complained about it.
And the reason the reason why it was good is Daisy was too, by the way.
It's very good.
It was very, very good news while Daisy was also on the wrong side.
Young, young women, young teenage girls would would come into the living room where their dads were watching football and say, I want to sit and watch this with you, dad.
And that gave an opportunity for fathers to connect with their children and try and strengthen those bonds.
A lot of people complained about it, but why do we have Taylor Swift here?
It's like, let that happen.
You know why they're doing the bad money thing now is the kids who may start watching football are now going to get the weird trans leftist stuff injected into the football games so they can try and reverse that trend we saw from Taylor Swift.
Well, and they've been doing the they've been using the NFL for social engineering all the way back to when Barack Obama was using was cutting deals with the Baltimore Ravens to push Obamacare.
So they they've understood the use of the NFL and the the left has understood the use of the NFL, pop culture.
Again, Netflix, the Obamas have a huge deal with Netflix on the production side, a lot of money laundering, obviously going on there.
Then obviously now you got Jay-Z, who's Obama's best literal best friend and Beyonce, um, who are in charge of selection process for these halftime shows.
And so what do they use?
They push the culture engineering, they push this on top of you, and people came down on me for you know talking about Taylor Swift two years ago, 100% right, by the way.
And uh and now that and proven right as well, and and now they're doing the exact same thing with Bad Bunny, and I really do think that you can't you can't have that discussion without talking about these massive uh population demographic shifts in our country that are going on.
You just can't.
It's not gonna work.
And I'll give you a really good example.
I was watching this movie with Chris Pratt and I think Millie Bibi Brown or whatever, you know that robot one?
Did you guys watch it?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, do you notice the music was all like eighty late eighties rock and early nineties?
It's set in the 90s, yeah, oddly.
So I'm watching all these films and I'm wondering why it is like they're playing songs from 30 years ago in their soundtracks because rock works in a lot of these action movies.
We don't have strong modern rock.
No, but it's still apparent to people who make movies that you need it.
They have tried to force the evolution of culture.
It doesn't work.
If you go back in time and look at the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, you can see how music evolves over time.
And you can see when they came in and when they went.
Like how disco moves in, you know, and the pop changes, how rock evolves.
They have tried over the past 20 years to hard stop American culture and music.
Yes.
And inject a foreign world, you know, kind of theme to change American culture.
It doesn't work.
And and and that's what they're gonna see with Get Will Go Broke when people complain about this and they're not they're they're gonna try and internationalize or whatever, but they're gonna lose American audience.
But but this is the one pushback to that is to Jack's point.
They've imported the international audience into our domestic audience.
But when you have a popular vote winner in Donald Trump and a demand for immigration, the response is simple here.
Bring on Creed.
You need Creed, we need Scottstaff, we need to slide down from the Raptors, the greatest halftime show that has ever taken.
Let me give let me give the audience a little context.
Let me give the audience.
That was the peak of America.
Hold on.
2004.
Let me give the audience a little context.
Jack Super Bowl in response to this tweeted out something along the lines there's only one re response.
We need Creed.
I'm literally it's because you know you're gonna not have approval from TPS.
No, no, so this is what's this what's hilarious.
I'm getting multiple inquiries from the media right now.
So have I saying I would like a comment on is turning point playing a TP USA competing with Creed.
Yeah, is are they c are they planning a competing halftime show with Creed?
And I was like, well, I wasn't.
Daisy, this is the same thing.
This is how I work with Andrew.
I just tweet stuff randomly and it manifests.
But I'm I'm open to it.
But I uh okay, my question is Wait, Daisy, Daisy, hold on.
Yes.
What I had a pitch for you too.
I'm ready.
I'm ready for this.
And this this and I'm gonna say this, and people forget I said this at CPAC as well.
What if we invite Taylor?
It's just not even a possibility.
Why why not?
Whoa, whoa, why is it not a possibility?
My question is Bad Bunny only sings in Spanish.
Are they trying to back to Tim's point?
Are they trying to broaden their audience to more international?
Or Bad Bun it they said 61% of Bad Bunny's listeners are 13 to 27.
So are they trying to they've already been losing their older audience?
The NFL has been losing their older older audience from the kneeling from the end race and racism in the in the end zones.
So they already have this newfound Gen Z audience.
They're like, oh, Gen Z's most streamed artist for the last five years is Bad Bunny.
Let's have him.
Most streamed artists globally.
This is 2020, 2020, 2019.
It's all about the great migration.
This is on the same thing.
Sorry.
The secret is streams are all fake.
The reason why they got off of the sales model is because they control streams.
People go on their streaming app, they click modern music, and then the labels in the industry say play bad bunny a hundred times.
That's the way it works.
So it's not people going in selecting I want to listen to Bad Bunny.
It's it's there's always been with radio, who gets to be on radio, it's coveted, right?
Payola, yeah.
Uh, not even Payola.
Just the record labels that say, here's the songs we want in rotation that we have for you.
And so were you chosen by the label to be in that list?
Sure.
There's finite space.
Streaming's no different.
Billboard used to track sales, they barely track sales anymore.
Now it's streams, and now you have come bands and artists you've never heard of somehow the top charting artists.
Yeah, because they just inject them and tell you they're popular.
Interesting.
Who who decides that?
The streaming platforms.
Jay-Z.
Jay-Z, probably.
Yeah.
That's wild.
No, they've run they've run complete game.
I mean, even I think we see it not in the same area, but with Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcast, that no one releases how they actually rank everything.
So Spotify can say these are our most streamed artists.
We don't know if they're streaming five seconds of that or the whole song.
You know what I've realized though?
That the music in general, as soon as like Napster came along and LimeWire and all this stuff, it's just never A, it's never been the same.
And B, like if you watch the Grammys, it's just a complete like it's just low class.
Like music is just a real a real nader, as they say.
All right.
I I want to say though, and I I'm I'm I'm I'm like, Daisy, I know we've been crosswise on this for for years at this point.
I would be willing to say Taylor Swift Creed crossover for the halftime show.
What do you say?
I need to look up and see if I even know a Creed song.
I'm I know that's probably embarrassing.
Seriously.
Uh Caboose, let's let's let's load up a Creed, just like 15 seconds of it.
Play higher.
They're playing it like every baseball uh game of football, the Vikings were using it.
The Rangers, the range, and then the Rangers use it all to take it all the way to the World Series.
And they won a Super Bowl or a World Series when they when they played it.
Yeah.
Sorry, I'm getting my.
Oh, it's like it's like a huge thing right now in sports.
Michael is working.
Their first album, I was not, I was not born yet.
That doesn't matter.
Do you know what's do you know what Star Wars is?
I've never seen Star Wars.
I know what it is.
Yeah.
I have I've heard about Star Wars.
Have you ever read the have you ever read the Bible?
Because I guarantee that was written before you were born.
So I'm silly argument.
Not everything that happened before I was born I know about.
This is one of the things that happened before I was born about.
I remember Charlie was using the the uh the the Alien Enemies Act.
He was like, what are the what are those debates?
Alien Sedition.
Aliens John Adams.
It was written in 1798 or whatever, and he was like the first amendment.
Yeah, the Constitution was written before that.
What do you think that's it makes it like Nolan Void now?
Let it play.
Let it play.
Let it stay.
Can you take me higher, dear?
Jack is Jack is having a moment.
Oh yeah.
I love how many people are going to be able to do that.
I am being taken higher to a place with Golden School.
Where blinds are a good thing.
A place where blind men see.
You know, I know they're explicitly Christian and always have been.
I will be their newest fan.
I just have to go back.
I have to go back and listen.
This is what you need to give to the younger generations, your traditions and your values.
Yes.
I totally agree.
That's why Creed and this is what people were like, oh, well, what do you think about like nickel back?
No, no, no, no.
The reason that Creed is able to have the comeback that they've had is because Creed was always legitimately authentic about their beliefs, and they never once strayed for them.
Other play people were just like out there doing music or like playing like you know I mean, not to tie everything back to Charlie all the time.
One of the reasons Charlie is Charlie, and one of the reasons why he's had this resonance around the world is because he was so authentically good, true, and and decent.
And I think that's what Gen Z wants.
They want authenticity and they want truth.
And I actually think you were kind of making a joke, but like it's so true.
It's we gotta think about the values that we pass down.
And when you when the NFL makes a decision like this, they're they're not only just making a bad business decision, in my opinion, and maybe it might be a good business decision, but it's it's betraying the country.
You got a choice between three dog night and bad bunny.
Come on, no question.
Okay, well, I'm I'm also not just saying this because I mean Jack also brought this up, and it was in talks.
I think it was all alleged.
I don't think any of it was true.
But if the NFL is trying to hold on to their Gen Z audience, do we think Charlie would have been more or less mad if it was Taylor doing the Super Bowl or Bad Bunny doing the Super Bowl?
Bad bunny, of course.
Taylor's still Gen Z, but all in English.
Well, she's not Gen Z though.
No, but her audience would be Gen Z. So they're so retaining.
I don't know if that's true, actually.
I think I think Gen Z 89.
No, uh her audience, I think was inferred by many people to be Gen Z, but I think actually was millennial.
Right, but I think she does have a major Gen Z audience as well.
So I'm saying they could tie in all together.
Jack's point, which I don't think would ever happen, but uh Creed Taylor Switch.
But the full halftime shows are known for like crossovers that people don't expect.
So maybe Bad Bunny will bring out Creed.
I just think Bad Bunny's not the Super Bowl.
Neither way.
No.
I'm saying TP USA, same time, Creed Taylor.
Who's are we also hosting a rival game?
Like who's playing in this game?
Are we doing school yard picks like jack team captains?
Yes.
Okay.
I'm on one team, Andrew's on the other team.
Or maybe we'll get Benny Johnson out here, and he'll be like way over competitive with it.
I have a win.
I'm I'm reading I I know Benny.
We'll do a pre-that's so funny.
Yeah.
So, but we're gonna uh I just want to read a couple emails here because I see some of you are emailing us asking why we haven't been playing any bad bunny tracks because you're just like, what is what kind of music?
I will tell you the answer to that is the studio.
They told me that they would they refuse to play bad bunny on this show, and I'm gonna honor that.
So never ever.
They just came in my head.
Oh, I just heard that.
Yeah.
I refuse to listen to it.
It's been it's banned.
We're banned.
Um Bad Bunny, you know, this isn't this isn't a place for you, so that's fine.
Uh studios made their decision.
I got another email here from Kimberly.
She says, Dear Charlie Kirk team, I've been a faithful Charlie Kirk show watcher, listener for years.
My family and I have been greatly encouraged by how Christ has been magnified since Charlie's passing.
Thank you all.
Praying for you all.
Thank you so much, Kim.
Uh means means the world.
There's so many.
We could magnify Christ by supporting a explicitly Christian band who happens to play the greatest rock music on the face of the planet currently.
Sure.
Just saying.
Does it make you feel better that I not only don't know any Creed songs, I also don't know any bad bunny songs.
Like I'm not arguing.
I would actually argue that if if I know your piece wasn't in, but that if you like heard that, you'd be like, oh, those guys.
Yeah, you would.
You would.
Yeah.
Like they're they're very well known.
Another email here from Lois.
She says, you guys have been having a very important conversation today.
Semantics and framing events are key methods by which the left dominates the narrative and impacts public perception.
Yes.
Yes, Lois.
That is exactly right.
Kelly says, Good afternoon.
Thank you all for what you guys are doing.
I enjoy watching.
Halftime ban from Carl.
I hate pop music in all genres.
Want a masculine band for the Super Bowl.
Choose either Slayer or High on Fire.
Creed is too soft and pop.
I hate it.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
I've seen Slayer.
I've lead scene.
I've seen Slayer, yeah.
Creed too soft and have you heard that?
Creed is too soft.
No, I've there if you're a metalhead, then you would say Creed is too soft for sure.
Oh, this is great.
This is actually a good idea from Tanner.
At halftime show, President Trump should break in the new Rose Garden and DJ his own music.
He does.
No, but like counterprogram it.
Oh, oh, during the hatchet.
Yeah, during the hatch.
Well, they're they're supposed to they also will announce at some point who's gonna sing the national anthem.
What if we have Creed in the Rose Gardens?
In the Rose Guard.
We've just figured it out.
We need someone who's terrible.
Mr. President, if you're listening, if you're listening, could be Creed for National Anthem, Trump DJing halftime show.
Or just Creed in like the South Lawn with like 6,000 people on this.
