Ask Charlie Anything 231: Charlie on Mariology? Deflating the Student Loan Bubble? Marriage and the Military?
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Was Mary sinless?
That's an interesting question.
What is my opinion on Mariology?
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So we're going to be doing our members call today.
I want to hear from you what's on your mind.
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So David is our first member.
David, thank you for being a member.
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Thank you so much.
What's on your mind, sir?
Well, hello, Charlie.
Good to talk to you.
I watched your video with Michael Knowles debating Catholic versus Protestant.
Your argument was the best argument I've heard on this subject.
I'm a Protestant like you and have been listening to the Michael Knowles show for years.
And he is a great guy, but sometimes Michael Knowles is so Catholic, he could have been the new Pope.
I know.
I'm glad you left it, though.
I know, Charlie, a lot of Catholics are real Christians, including Michael Knowles.
But we are the people of the Bible, and Catholic theology can be like Swiss cheese.
Lots of holes.
Their obsession with Mary is completely unbiblical.
I used to go to the Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, California, once in a while, and then they were sold to the Catholic Church.
And in the prayer room I used to use, they now have a crystal sculpture of Mother Mary at the center of the prayer room where you can kneel and pray to Mary.
Plus a 20-foot-tall statue of Mary in the courtyard titled Mary, Queen of Heaven.
I don't know exactly where this Mariology comes from, but obviously Jesus didn't believe in it.
All throughout the Gospels, he never mentions it.
If anything, he taught against it.
I was wondering, could it be, since you and Michael Knowles both have a big following, that you could do a one-hour debate about Catholic versus Protestant?
What do you think, Charlie?
I love it.
First of all, thank you for being a member.
You've actually hit on one of my major, major concerns of Catholicism.
And I mean, look, I love Catholics.
You know, as people know, I'm very close to even my local Catholic priest, Father Klein, great guy.
My wife was baptized Catholic, but I have some big disagreements with Catholicism.
And the first of which would be Mariology.
But let me first say, I think we as Protestants and evangelicals under-venerate Mary.
She was very important.
She was a vessel for our Lord and Savior.
I think that we as evangelicals and Protestants, we've over-corrected.
We don't talk about Mary enough.
We don't venerate her enough.
Mary was clearly important to early Christians.
There's something there.
In fact, I believe one of the ways that we fix toxic feminism in America is Mary is the solution.
Have more young ladies be pious, be reverent, to be full of faith, slow to anger, slow to words at times.
Mary is a phenomenal example, and I think a counter to so much of the toxicity of feminism in the modern era.
However, I would say Catholicism goes way too far.
Catholicism believes two things as dogma, and most Catholics, if you ask them this, they don't even, some don't even know.
Number one, do you believe that Mary was sinless?
The Catholic Church does.
There is no biblical basis for this, the only of which would be that Mary was full of grace in the Annunciation of Mary in Luke 1.
That is a big stretch.
By the way, that was not even added into official Catholic dogma until the mid-1800s.
The second of which, which is called the Immaculate Conception, there's a second form of Catholic dogma that believes that Mary was assumed into heaven, that her physical body was actually the assumption of Mary was assumed into heaven.
Again, that is a pure faith claim.
It is not biblically supported at all whatsoever.
So I think that we as evangelicals can do a better job of remembering, studying, talking about, and pointing towards Mary, because she was a vessel chosen by God Almighty that brought our Lord into this world.
But I find, in fact, I find biblical evidence to the opposite.
I find biblical evidence to show that Mary was sinful like all the rest of us.
In fact, I see biblical evidence that it says very clearly, I think, in the book of Romans that no one is sinless except Christ Jesus.
The other one is more of a technical theological debate, which again, Catholics have a very firm belief on this, that Mary was not the mother of Jesus' half-brothers.
It's just not supported by scripture.
However, you could say that it was Joseph's other kids from another marriage.
Again, that is just a faith claim.
That would be, of course, James and Jude, the two half-brothers of Jesus.
This is not a major issue for me between me getting along with Catholics, me loving Catholics, me thinking that Catholics are doing a great job for the planet and for the world.
But I personally would not be able to enter into a faith that believes that anybody except Jesus Christ our Lord was without sin.
And that's my final comment on Mariology.
Happy to debate it with others if that ever surfaces.
So again, we're also here on the Charlie Kirk Show.
We're very ecumenical.
I just want to say again, Catholics are just fabulous In so many different ways.
They fight for life, they fight for marriage, they fight against transgenderism.
I have three major theological disagreements with Catholicism.
It's not a mystery.
I talk about it publicly.
The first of which would be the infallibility of the Pope and the whole process and the idea of the Vatican.
The second of which is Mariology.
And the third of which, which is just less, you know, less important, but it's transubstantiation.
I do not hold that view.
Thank you so much, my friend, for being a member.
I appreciate it.
Also, my friend Frank Turek says, Charlie, why would Mary call Jesus her Savior if she's sinless?
Josh, Josh, what is on your mind?
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Josh, what is on your mind?
Hey, Charlie.
So my main question is, what do you think Gen Z is getting right that older generations might have missed?
Because you hear today, especially a lot of older generations are saying, oh, you know, you just need to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, you know, just work some more.
You can afford a house if you work.
But in reality, wages are way lower than what they should be.
Housing is way higher.
We have way more complex problems.
At least in my eyes, obviously they had complex problems in their own day.
But what do you think we're maybe getting right that they might not be giving us credit for?
Okay, so a phenomenal question.
So the first of which is this.
This is not the same economic order that existed in the 1980s.
It's not the same country that existed in the 1980s.
We are a cluttered country.
We are a overwhelmed country.
We are a country that is flooded with foreigners.
And secondly, the country is far more pricey.
It's far more expensive to exist and to have basic necessities than it was in the 1980s.
Many boomers, God bless them, this is not an accusation or criticism of boomers, had a much easier entry point into the American dream than this current generation.
It was easier to work hard and to get ahead, to save.
Going to university was cheaper.
There was far less competition for housing.
You were able to buy a home.
And also, the dating pool was easier.
It was not full of young women that are infected with the Jezebel spirit that had no interest in getting married or having children that wanted to be the boss of the relationship.
Young men seek to have some sort of relationship that is scriptural in nature.
More people were Christian.
Our nation is now more secular.
We had far more cultural cohesion.
To the more important question, though, about economics.
Interest rates is part of it.
A lot of people will say, well, I had a 9.5% mortgage rate on my first house.
Yes.
However, the down payment, I almost guarantee, was far more affordable than it was today.
Far more.
Now, not by percentage, but by percentage of asset price to your annualized income.
Asset price to annualized income has gone way out of control.
So for example, yes, you might have had to have 20% down in the 1980s or the 1990s, but the asset prices, for example, for like a single family home in Mesa, Arizona, has gone to like $800,000 to $900,000 and has priced people out of the housing market.
If we do not fix the fact that young people are permanent owners, if we do not fix the fact that young people are permanent renters, I should say, and not able to own, then we are going to have a deconstruction and a disordered economic reality that therefore invites political radicalism.
We could put this up, put 365 up on screen.
That's just median rent.
Look how much that's gone up since 1973.
Inflation adjusted, by the way.
Inflation adjusted.
The median rent in 1985 was $1,031.
It's now $1,400.
So it's $400 more expensive just to pay for median rent.
Inflation adjusted.
So I think older Americans need to understand there has been an economic abuse, generational theft of the next generation, and we need to fix it.
It's not about pointing fingers.
We should point fingers, honestly, at Larry Fink and BlackRock.
That's a separate issue.
Instead, we should take a step back, take a deep breath, fix this, build 10 million new homes, and deport 20 million illegal aliens.
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April, thank you for being a member.
What is on your mind?
Hey, Charlie, thanks for taking my call.
I have been in an argument with a friend of mine, and they are a junior CFO at a small hospital, Catholic hospital in Omaha, Nebraska.
And they are saying that due to the cuts that Trump has put in place as far as Medicaid and Medicare, that he's not going to have a job in a few years.
And I'm trying to explain that he's not cutting Medicare and Medicaid to the point where they're going to close hospitals.
They're cutting it for waste, fraud, and abuse.
And so that was one question.
And then the other one we argue about is that he is spending way more than he is bringing in.
And I'm trying to explain about the tariffs and, you know, he is bringing in money.
So either one of those questions, I just don't have a backing to that for my argument.
So the first of which, part of the Big Beautiful bill included $50 billion for rural hospitals.
So we don't know for certain if it's going to close.
My unfortunate, look, here's my tougher truth, though, is that some Things might close in this country and we might pay a political price for it because we are a debtor nation.
I know this might not be persuasive to your friend, but we are a nation that is $37 trillion in debt.
At some point, you have to start to make some decisions.
Now, does that mean that people will die?
Like, okay, look, some hospitals work phenomenal.
I think you would agree, some hospitals don't.
Some hospitals are very inefficient.
Some hospitals are duplicative.
Some hospitals could be better run by a private operation or a private-public partnership.
And so we don't want to see a mass closure of hospitals where people are without care.
At the same time, we need to try to tighten our belt.
So, and then as far as the more money he's bringing in, I'm not really sure what you mean.
You just mean that he thinks prices are going up.
I mean, look, for the time being, we're seeing a slight adjustment of prices.
We're going to bet on lowering interest rates, and we're going to bet on robust economic growth.
Those are our two big elements.
So I hope that's somewhat helpful.
But more than anything else, it is a very important conversation to have to make politics real.
But sometimes you can't sugarcoat it when we are a debtor nation.
Thank you so much.
Next question, Caleb.
Caleb, what is your question?
Thanks for being a member.
Hi, Charlie.
My question to you is about student loans.
So interesting how that has kind of already come up a little bit earlier.
But I think we can, I think Gen Z especially, one of its biggest weights and issues that's honestly the least talked about is, I think, the student loan and student loan payment problem.
Yes, we want a house, we want a marriage, but hard for us to even really think about these things with all of these barely manageable student loans.
What kind of policy decisions do you think can be made to bring relief without traveling down the road of student loan forgiveness?
What's that right mix between kind of accountability and maybe some mercy?
So it's a great question.
The first of which is we need to say that we have a moral obligation to the people that did not go to college that have been railroaded the last 30 to 40 years.
We call them the muscular class, the plumbers, the welders, electricians, you know, the people that work with their hands.
We should not punish them or penalize them because they did not go to college.
And that's essentially what it would be.
It would be a backwards, it would be a reverse punishment.
The Big Beautiful Bill includes a cap on loans, which is important.
For decades, we've subsidized, which we just subsidized demand.
We should wage war on universities.
A good legal change to fight for would be make colleges co-sign all student loans.
If a student can't repay colleges on the hook, that would fix so much bad behavior that exists today.
And honestly, we need to pick practical majors and we need to start going after these endowments.
They're sitting on $30, $40, $50 billion.
And it's unfair that so many students get hosed by that.
So I think there's a compassionate way to go forward with it.
I think there is a way that we could have mercy and reconciliation.
But at the same time, we're a country of personal responsibility, and we should be.
And the plumber should not have to pay higher amounts in taxes to bail out the person that studied North African lesbian poetry or queer psychosociology.
We need to shift the student loan concept from giving loans to people to get education to giving loans to schools who educate people.
They need more skin in the game.
Otherwise, there is no moral hazard whatsoever.
There's no incentive for them to have the best possible product.
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Really appreciate it.
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Jamie.
Jamie, what's on your mind?
Hi, Charlie.
Nice to speak with you.
It's my first member's call.
I was just going to come on the show and say thank you for the Student Action Summit, but I also wanted to know, after getting to meet you this weekend and things like that, with the debate on the final day, I was wondering who do you think won, Mr. Hammer or Mr. Smith?
It's a good question.
So I would say that rhetorically, Dave Smith, it's very obvious that he's a comedian, meaning that, and I don't mean that pejoratively, I mean it that he was very, very good rhetorically to be able to win over the audience.
Look, I obviously tilt more in Josh Hammer's direction, just philosophically.
I think they both made great points.
The audience, I would say, tilted towards thinking that Dave Smith won based on online polls and in-person polls.
But if I were to judge who gave probably the better rhetorical argument at times, probably Dave Smith.
I think Josh Hammer made some really Good points.
Now, people would say Dave had home field advantage, and part of the reason I wanted to do the debate is that 10 years ago, Dave Smith would not have had home field advantage at a conservative event like this.
It shows that the conservative movement is changing.
The conservative movement is metamorphosizing.
While all of that, I will say the biggest victory of the debate is being lost on people, that we all agreed that Jew hate, this anti-Semitic brain rot garbage, has no place in the conservative movement.
Period.
And honestly, I think also it was a wake-up call that there was also an agreement that we need to cut off aid to Israel.
In the words of Bibi Netanyahu, it's time to decouple the financial aid relationship between the United States and Israel.
I'm sympathetic to that belief.
That doesn't mean you're anti-Israel.
It means that you think that Israel should be able to be anti-fragile and be self-reliant and not reliant on a foreign power.
You could actually make an argument that it's in Israel's best interest to be able to cut off financial ties from the United States government in case there would ever be a future government that does not want to send them money.
I think that's a very big positive.
So honestly, I think the winner is the American people and the conservative movement.
And honestly, kudos to my two friends, Josh Hammer and Dave Smith, for doing it.
I encourage everyone to check out the debate.
We have it on all our social media channels.
People really enjoy it.
It's not healthy long term for one country to be financially reliant on another, period.
And you could say that as someone who loves Israel, and I do, and I think it's a great place.
Do I always agree with the government?
No.
Do I actually like what the government is doing all the time?
No.
Do I think that the Israeli government needs to explain more of its actions at times?
Yes.
I want Israel to succeed.
I want Israel to thrive.
And I do not put up with, I do not tolerate, I will not, I will not, let's just say, put any of my platform towards anyone that exercises Jew hate or the marginalization of the Jewish people.
Okay, next question.
Thank you, Charlie.
Yep.
So let's go to Matt.
Matt is what, what is on your mind, members.charliekirk.com.
Matt, what is on your mind?
Hey, Charlie, how are you?
Thanks for everything you do, as always.
Just checking back in now that Tillis has officially punched out of North Carolina or re-elect, which I think is a good thing for us.
And we got past his issues to get the bill passed.
But just checking in, Senate's obviously really important.
Georgia, North Carolina, are you hearing anything on candidates?
Our bench is kind of weak in Georgia, a little better in North Carolina.
Seeing what you're hearing out there.
So wait.
You're asking what is the latest for the North Carolina Senate race, basically?
Yeah, and Georgia as well, please.
So we don't know.
By the way, I've been so non-politically engaged, but I mean by races, the last couple of last month and a half, we've been worried about Iran.
We've been worried about Amnesty.
You know, we've been worried about all this stuff.
Do you have a preferred candidate?
What are you hearing in the grassroots?
I'm going to take a note of this.
Sure.
Well, Georgia, I said it should have been Kemp all along, though I sort of think that he and Sununu up in New Hampshire are sort of kind of trying to plot the leaders of the post-Trump MAGA movement is sort of my thought there.
But that's secondary.
Our bench in Georgia is very light.
I mean, there's no question about it.
I don't have a lot.
I worked on this campaign in Georgia in 2018, but he's kind of betrayed us over time.
So I don't have much on Georgia.
Our bench is crap.
But North Carolina, people are saying Pat Harrigan, I know people have, you know, he's in the state legislature and he's MAGA.
He'd be a good pickup.
And then obviously, you know, Laura and Michael Watley, both in North Carolina.
I like Michael Watley.
I do.
Look, we have to win both of them.
Here's my bigger concern, my friend.
How old are you?
34.
34.
So you're not too much older than I am.
Are you worried the midterms might be impacted if we do not clean up this Epstein situation and get clarity on this?
Do you see it amongst people of your generation, young men, politically engaged, disengaged?
Tell me what you're hearing about that.
Sure.
Great question.
And personally, I mean, it's not something that I care that much about.
I mean, I think we all understand that there's a lot of dark stuff that goes on in the world that helps push things around.
It is important.
But if you were to release all that, what does that really lead to?
Because I think he's gone.
A lot of the other guys who may or may not have been involved are not around potentially.
And then you think about how many folks are going to be suing the government immediately because, oh, I was not involved.
This list has defamed me.
But just to your point about how much do I hear about it, I mean, not really.
I mean, it's something, but I think it seems to be like just a portion of the online kind of portion of our movement.
But it's not something I really care that much about and none of my friends really care that much about.
That's refreshing to hear.
It's interesting.
We have a million things to focus on right now.
Let's not get derailed.
We have to execute.
Look, and I will say though, but you can also see people online that really do care a lot about this.
So I think I will say it's very interesting.
I had a phone call with a, it was such, it was one of my favorite phone calls of the week.
Really a great guy.
And I said, hey, you know, what do you think?
He's a business guy, young, really into crypto, well-respected.
And I was going for one of my walks.
I said, hey, what do you think of this Epstein stuff?
And he said, what's going on with the Epstein stuff?
I said, oh, I want your life.
I said, whatever life you're living.
He's like, I saw a meme about Kevin Spacey wanting the Epstein stuff out.
Is that what you mean?
So it's important, everybody, to kind of take a step back.
I'm not saying that no one cares about it.
I'm not saying, but there are gradations of engagement.
And remember, we are in the summer of 2025.
People are kind of politics burned and politics fatigued.
I am worried it's starting to seep in to lower propensity voters.
And it's seeping into kind of the lower, not information, I hate that, but lower prop.
So many people are chronically online.
And I disagree.
Some people say, oh, only chronically online people care about it.
That's not correct.
But I will say, though, that if the more online you are, the more you definitely care about this.
Thank you, my friend, for being a website.
That's one more thing.
So I'm sorry.
I think we also need to think about messaging wise that separating what we say, the Epstein situation.
I mean, obviously child trafficking and all that is incredibly wrong.
And by the way, this DOJ has been arresting hundreds, if not thousands of people in that, you know, doing that bad stuff.
Boom.
And so that's not being slowed down at all.
But we need to realize Epstein is his own guy.
He had some weird connections.
And we'll get to that in time.
But we're still arresting child predators every single day.
And that's a focus of the DOJ.
And we need to be able to separate those two things.
Well said, my friend.
Excellent wisdom.
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Taylor, what is on your mind?
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Hi, Charlie.
I'm a 28-year-old daughter of Christ.
I have been in a relationship for about a year and a half with my boyfriend, who's just one year younger than me.
And we're going through a type of premarital counseling, more so related to how to move into marriage and raise a family if my boyfriend feels a calling to go into the military.
The commitment requirement, potential long distance and separation from my future husband during times of struggle or significant life milestones like when I'm nine months pregnant really scares me.
So my question for you is, what would be your best advice for us if we feel like we're ready to take the next step of the covenant of marriage together?
And how do you prioritize or balance individualistic callings with your spouse or family needs?
So that is a phenomenal question.
The first thing that you must understand, and your husband has to understand this, is you will both be serving.
He will be serving on the front lines of the U.S. military, but it's very hard on military spouses as well.
Very, very hard.
So if you, going into this covenant, have any uneasiness about it, he needs to make a decision whether he's going to go through with that and whether, because he should never, he should not go into that unless you fully bless it.
Number two, let me ask you, have you had an opportunity to sit down with military wives that have done this successfully?
I have not.
Okay, you absolutely need to do that.
So I have one in particular that lives in Arizona.
She's amazing.
Her name is Rachel.
She has six kids, homeschooled all of them.
Her husband is actually serving in the U.S. government now, and he was deployed for well over a decade of them raising their kids, and they're 18 years old.
They'll talk about how hard it was, how stressful it was, how difficult it was.
Let me ask you another question.
In your current configuration, do you have a mom or does he have a parent that would be very involved in raising and helping the kids?
They would be willing to, yes, if we were located in that area.
Okay, that's very important.
That would be my other piece of advice, which is that it's very, very hard to raise kids alone.
In fact, it's not even good to raise kids solo alone.
So if your husband is out serving our beautiful nation, which is what we need and what our country demands and deserves, then you absolutely need to try to find some way to be close to family that can support you and that can assist you.
So let's just kind of go through what I just said as a recap.
Number one, you have to be in full agreement and full harmony.
But number two, I'm going to connect you.
Daisy, can you make sure we connect?
I'll put it together.
Talk to military wives that have done this successfully.
And the third of which is if you end up making this step, because you'll both be serving in some capacity, that you are near a family support network that is able to have your back.
Okay.
Thank you, Charlie.
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Thank you for being a member.
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Amy says, I could not have handled the Mary topic more delicately.
Charlie, you are right, and Catholics are wrong about Mary.
Question, question, question.
That is an arrogant statement because it's not in the Bible.
There's more to faith than what is in the Bible.
Wow, just wow.
Okay, yes, Protestants do exist in this world, Amy.
And I think I was pretty fair and pretty clear about it.
Amazing.
People are fired up today.
Choo-Choo, what is on your mind?
Members.charlikirk.com.
How are you, Charlie?
I am talking again.
Good.
So, yeah, so I like to talk about immigration monetary.
So last time I talked about my immigration status too, right?
I'm a naturalized U.S. citizen.
I like this country, especially the values.
And I see this Minneapolis mayorship and also the New York mayorship.
So I heard him say, you know, back home, when we go back home.
So this guy was born and raised here.
I am not even born here.
I don't even say back home when I talk about Ethiopia, right?
So what should we do?
I'm asking you and also the viewers, like, is there any policy actions that we met in America to incentivize people to assimilate, to integrate, so that, you know, so we can build this country?
Because if we have these blocks of people who still try to live in nostalgia, whatever the country they left and come in here and they try to change the values of this country, then at some point this country will be destroyed.
I'm telling you.
Choo-choo, you're right.
Choo Choo, you got a lot of passion.
I totally agree.
It's time for an immigration moratorium.
We've said it before.
I'll say it again.
And look, you have this mayoral candidate, Omar Fetta.
I wish we had more people like you come to this country.
The sad truth is we don't.
He said, quote, protecting all of our communities from Donald Trump means not letting the Minneapolis Police Department interact with ICE.
This is the Mamdani Minneapolis guy, whether it's for an immigration raid or not.
I totally agree, ChooChu.
We got to get to another member.
Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.
Commit it to memory, everybody.
Write it down.
Put it on a bumper sticker.
Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.
Thank you, ChooChu.
God bless.
Laura, you'll be the last question today.
What is on your mind?
Hi, Charlie.
Yes.
Hi, Charlie.
I'm so excited to talk to you.
I'm great.
I'm calling you from the great state of North Dakota, our vice president.
I love North Dakota.
Great people.
We're live on North Dakota radio.
I love the North Dakota Patriots.
Great folks.
Yeah, same.
So anyway, last year we were fortunate to attend Your America Fest in Phoenix because we are also snowbirds.
Because 38 below is not fun here.
And I'm telling you, Charlie, I brought my son who's 25, my husband and I. So we were the older generation so completely overwhelmed with that event.
Learned so much, danced, cried, laughed, prayed the Lord's prayer with 20,000 people.
Amazing.
We just got an email that the tickets are on sale again.
Yep, that's right.
And my sons, two of my sons and my daughter-in-law both said to us at Christmastime, you guys need to be done going to these big events.
It's not safe for you.
We do not want you to go anymore.
These are the same kids that would kind of not really taunt us, but like, come on, you guys, you're just ridiculous with when we would talk political things.
Now they're like, why you, you know, you're not going again.
What do you, what do you say about it?
Really quick.
We have 30 seconds.
They don't want you to go because it's not, you're physically safe or what do they mean?
Yeah, they're worried that some lunatic's going to do something.
Oh, I mean, if that's your belief, then you can never go to a North Dakota State football game.
Look, the idea is if you're afraid of leaving your home because something's going to happen to you, we have great security all the time.
But look, life is a risky endeavor.
It could be a dangerous place, but never allow the threat of somebody doing something bad to prevent you from going to a place where we rejoice Jesus and celebrate the country.
