What Every Young Man and Woman Should Hear — My Speech from CLS
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All right, everybody, we having fun here at the Chapter Leadership Summit.
This is a high energy group.
I love it.
We had this wonderful breakfast before.
Who is at the breakfast?
A couple people here.
And I could talk about politics the whole time.
Instead, I'm going to talk about something much more important, which is dating.
Well, that's true.
We'll talk about Jesus too.
We're going to talk about dating, marriage, and kind of the state of all of that.
That's more important than talking about marriage.
And so I'm going to have a very direct message for men and then a very direct message for women.
So I'll offend everybody in the room and then we'll do questions.
How does that sound?
All right.
But first, I want to say, you guys on the front lines, starting turning point USA high school chapters, starting turning point USA college chapters, you are on the front lines of saving this country.
And you look around, our numbers are increasing.
We are happier.
We are joyful.
We love the nation and we're going to defeat the left.
It's just a matter of time.
We're going to win this country.
We're going to win.
And the energy in here is incredible.
So I was sitting at breakfast this morning and I would go to table by table and I'd say, how many of you are unhappy with the dating pool?
Raise your hand if you're unhappy with the dating pool.
Those of you not raising your hand, how many of you are in relationships?
Almost every hand goes up, right?
So I went to table by table and people were saying similar things.
They said, you know, I just can't find a woman.
I just can't find a man that all people really care about is hookup culture.
All people really care about is immediate gratification.
And so I thought to myself, there needs to be a message delivered here at the chapter leadership summit to men of what men need to do and to women, what women need to do, because the problem's on both sides.
And I'm not going to say one side more than the other, even though I have some personal opinions on that, but you'll try to be able to guess.
But more importantly, though, if we do not value the most important things, it should be God should be the most important thing in your life.
Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, most important thing.
But then beyond that, it's getting married, having children, building families, leaving a legacy, doing big and great things.
And that goes for everybody in this room.
Right now, our generation, well, I'm a little bit older than you, but it's kind of in the younger demo.
We are the most suicidal generation in history, the most anxious generation in history, the most medicated generation in history.
And there's something seriously wrong where we are the least married generation.
And also, we are less likely to have babies than any other generation prior to us.
We have more comforts.
We have more cell phones.
We have more things at our disposal.
And yet we are having less children and we are literally not repopulating the species.
So there's a lot of things going on here.
The first and foremost is we do not value the ultimate thing.
And the ultimate thing should be loving God, loving people, and raising children in a society that follows God's commands against the culture, not in consistency with the culture, to stand, on my opinion, on eternal truths, fight for the country, fight for our civilization, and then also understand that you, especially as men, but women as well, you are obligated to do difficult and hard things.
The West was built, our nation was built on delayed gratification, not instant gratification.
That maybe I'm not going to go do what feels good in the moment.
I'm going to forsake what feels good and I'm going to parlay that into the future.
Now let's talk about this.
So the dating pool is a complete catastrophe.
Men are unhappy with women.
Women are unhappy with men.
And you're both wrong.
Let's start with men.
Men, very simple.
If you are spending inordinate amount of times staring at screens, playing video games, and not being active and productive, that is deeply unattractive to women.
Women, do you agree?
If you are addicted to pornography or watching porn at all, stop doing that.
If you are doing drugs and smoking weed, stop doing that.
And I'll even go a step further.
I personally do not drink alcohol.
If you want to drink alcohol, that's fine.
If you want to do that, that's fine.
But if you want to be a high performer, Donald Trump doesn't drink alcohol.
Tucker Carlson doesn't drink alcohol.
I don't drink alcohol.
It will set you back.
Mornings will be a little bit more sluggish.
You'll forget stuff.
Nothing good happens after midnight while both parties are drunk.
So if you want to have a life of ease, go keep drinking.
But if you want to go do heroic and great stuff, maybe it's time for you to battle your flesh and not just always get drunk every single night and say, you know what?
No, instead of drinking alcohol, I'm going to go to the gym.
Instead of drinking alcohol, I'm going to hang out with friends and talk about deeper and more purposeful things.
I'm going to go to a Bible study instead of a bar.
Now, men, one of the most unattractive things that women tell us that they find in men is that young men have no self-control.
Young men do not know how to control themselves.
Ladies, would you agree?
Oh, don't worry.
I'm going to do the whole other side of this in a second.
So you better be ready.
You better be ready.
They're like, oh, yeah.
It's going to be an equal opportunity offender.
Young men, you need to have a destination in your life.
If you are on a date and a young lady says, well, what are you doing?
You're like, I kind of meander.
And I, you know, I go on DraftKings and I, you know, I own crypto and like, I don't know.
Aunt loser.
Instead it should be.
Instead, it should be.
I'm studying this because of this.
I'm going to start a business.
I'm going to work for this person.
I want to be able to make this much money by this period of time to provide for a family.
And I don't care how hard it gets, but I'll provide for you and provide for the kids.
And I will be the protector and the covering over the family.
Follow me because I'm going to lead us.
That's what they want to hear.
Thank you.
And let me tell you, there are voices out there that say, oh, young men, all modern women are garbage and just use them for sex and just use them for pleasure.
And that's BS.
And I'm going to tell you, you cannot be a Christian and believe that.
Are there problems with modern women?
Yes.
But our Lord and Savior came to this earth because God could have just teleported Jesus Christ right onto the earth.
But instead, our Lord and Savior came through a womb of a woman.
Christianity values women in a proper biblical context.
So some of the narrative that I hear at times from men that say, oh, I hate all women and they're not worthy of respect and honor.
God used women all throughout the scriptures, whether it be Ruth or Esther, whether it be Deborah.
And unfortunately, this is lost in a lot of the angst that young men have, that they'll say, I'm just done with all women.
First of all, even if it's hard, maybe you should work to improve your own life to make yourself more attractive to the woman that you want to one day find.
And there needs to be the current modern state is that they want men to be women and women to be men.
We know that.
And they want men to kind of walk around in a beta state, kind of walking around in their sweatpants all the time.
They haven't showered in three days.
They sleep until 3 o'clock in the afternoon.
Nothing about that is interesting or attractive.
Men, you know what your call to action is?
Go do something hard.
Go do something difficult.
That means go wake up at 5 o'clock in the morning.
Go for a run.
And I'm going to go there.
Men, there's no excuse to be overweight.
It's not interesting or attractive to women.
Seriously.
Go to the gym.
Stop eating so much crap.
Go on the Maha diet.
Fast for a couple of days.
Try keto.
Eat a steak, not a soy protein latte.
Everybody in this room can make yourself 5% to 10% more physically fit.
Oh, Charlie, I'm just born this way.
I have, no, look, everybody has their challenges or their struggles.
Some people have metabolisms where they eat three pizzas and it disappears.
I get it.
There is no excuse, though.
You can make yourself 10% more attractive in this room.
You can.
You can go to the gym.
You can fast.
You can go on a better diet.
You can decide, you know what?
You know what's another good thing about not drinking alcohol?
A lot of calories that you're no longer putting in your body.
A lot.
And for men, make yourself so desirable that women want to be with you.
What does desirable look like?
It doesn't mean you have to go look like a supermodel or an actor.
Women want piety in a man.
They want someone that will say, you know what?
Let's go to church together.
Let's not just go to some degenerate kind of environment.
Do you know one of the things that women want more than anything else is they want the confidence and the security that when life gets difficult and when life starts falling apart, that that man will lead them towards security and stability.
Because deep down, women have a very well-built and finely tuned, God-given instinct that they'll be able to tell in a man when the bullets start firing, is this guy going to protect me and protect my kids?
And is he going to provide or is he going to run for the hills?
And for you as the man, you need to be able to demonstrate that.
And it's in ways you might not have imagined.
And let me just give you some other practical advice.
Men, if you go on a first date with a woman and you split the check, we got serious problems.
I don't care if you have to go into debt, refinance your home, or scrub the dishes for three weeks.
You do not allow a woman to pay on the first date.
Period.
Period.
Oh, Charlie, I don't have the money.
Figure it out.
Get a job.
Borrow money.
Take out a loan on a credit card.
I don't care if you don't have $41 to cover her meal.
What is more important?
The money in your pocket or the character in your heart?
And don't worry, I'm almost done with the male portion, and then it's going to get even more fun, okay?
Which is men.
Let's be honest, we got to raise our game in this culture.
We are constantly around one.
They say, oh, just go place another bet on this running back to run 100 yards.
Just go to the cannabis dispensary and medicate yourself.
That's all a bunch of BS.
Go look to your grandfather's generation that stormed Normandy Beach, that built this nation, that started big businesses, that went on adventure.
If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.
But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful.
Purpose will give you happiness.
You see, we live in a country where they think that purpose, where they think that happiness is pleasure.
We know that purpose is above all of this.
Serving God, understanding why we are here, that we are made in his image, that there is a struggle of good versus evil.
By the way, you're involved in that struggle every single day on the college campuses.
Every day you get to fight for what is good and what is true and beautiful.
So next time when you're on a college campus, and if you want to be a man, this is what you do.
If you want to stay a boy, go and do what your other friends do.
But men say, you know what?
No, I'm actually not going to go hook up with a bunch of girls.
I'm going to save myself for marriage.
Actually, I'm not going to go do that.
But if you want to go be a boy, go do that.
It takes no skill and no talent and no self-restraint whatsoever just to follow your flesh.
An animal can do that.
A dog can do that.
Do you know what mature people do?
Mature people say no to what feels good and they pursue what is good.
And far too often on college campuses, we have these grown boys and I'm talking to a lot of you in this audience and it's time for you guys to up your game.
It's time for you guys to stop doing just what feels good all the time.
Oh yeah, we're just going to go get, you know, blackout drunk till 2 a.m. and hook up with some stranger.
No, no, no.
If you want to stay in the lower standard, a miserable, miserable cycle of debt and suffering and depression, lack of community, go do that.
Instead on a Saturday night, say, you know what?
I'm going to hang out with some friends that are not going to drink, are not going to engage with this stuff.
And then maybe on Sunday morning, I'm going to go to church or I'm going to go to mass and then I'm going to go work out and then I'm going to study.
Who will be happier?
You know I'm right.
Who will be happier?
Come 12 high noon on Sunday.
The person that went crazy full of regrets, the person that went out late at night, trying to find the next 10 second orgasm, or the person that went to go after something holy or went after something divine.
And if you are not, the final thing I'll say this to the men, and then we'll go to the woman's side, which is you need to be consuming information, content, and community.
Information, content, and community around you that lifts you up, does not tear you down.
You are an average of the five people you spend the most time with.
List those people.
Who are the friends around you?
Are they lifting you up?
Or are they just talking about just quick, quick, easy gratification?
Because guess what?
The fun will end at one time.
Eventually, you're going to get out of college and the graduation ceremony will be underway and you're handed that useless diploma and you're then going to have to enter the world.
And all of a sudden, if you're like 20 pounds more overweight, but you have a lot of good memories with the buddies because you guys got a lot really drunk.
Great, terrific, okay?
The world is brutal right now.
It's tough.
Things are expensive.
It's hard to find wives.
It's hard to raise children, I should say.
to build families.
Thank you.
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Okay, so now for the women.
Who's ready for that?
The men are ready for that.
Because the men have gotten their talking to.
Stop being boys, start being men.
Okay.
Now we're ready for the women, okay?
And now who's ready for me to get in a lot of trouble?
All right.
Women, number one, it is unspeakably unattractive to your fellow man when you have body counts that are five, six, seven, eight.
Men do not want to date women that are sleeping around campus all the time, period.
They don't.
And I see a lot of these women looking around right now.
Oh, you were applauding when I was bashing men, but when all of a sudden I'm criticizing women, you can't do that.
If you could clap for the truth on one side, be able to receive it.
It is unattractive to men when you're going around and you're bragging about how many other men you're sleeping with.
Number two, be a godly woman who, who, who is willing to submit to a husband under the covering of Almighty God.
And if you have had your belief or your mindset so muddied, so polluted by modern culture, and you call yourself a Christian, I'm going to challenge you on that.
Because in a marriage, you're going to submit to your husband and you should submit to your husband.
And by the way, the husband has an unbelievable responsibility to then submit to God and to make sure that marriage and that family is under a godly covering.
Now, some women in this audience are like, nope, not for me.
I'm going to make my own income.
I'm going to find a man and we're going to be egalitarian.
That's fine, but I'm going to just push back.
That's not God's design for marriage.
The man is the head of the household.
That is as the Bible prescribes it.
The Bible has prescribed it very and has worked for thousands of years.
And let's just ask the question, is it working?
This idea of egalitarianism?
Divorce rates are nearly 50%.
Depression is on the rise.
Anxiety is on the rise.
Because deep down, deep down, and I know this is true.
Deep down, the ladies, even in this room that play the girl boss thing on Instagram, deep down, you're begging for a man to lead you.
Deep down, you are begging for a man to provide for you.
You want it.
You might be afraid To say it, you might be afraid to articulate it, but deep down, you want your metaphorical Prince Charming to come.
So, when he does come, be willing, be open.
And for ladies, you have a lot more bargaining power than you might think.
I was asking at the table after table after table.
I said, Why is it that young women, because here's the thing, it is not new that men want sex a lot.
That is not new.
What is new is that women are giving it to them.
That is new.
That is a failed feminist project.
Why are women doing it so much?
Well, the reason, honestly, is that what I heard from the, this morning, women want love and they're seeking it in that way.
Young ladies, start saying no.
Start saying no.
Men, men want what they cannot have.
And all of a sudden, if the godly, conservative, attractive, well-put-together women on a college campus start saying, nope, actually, you have to date me seriously.
I have to know your name and know a little about you, actually.
All of a sudden, men are going to be like, well, forget all this.
Then men are going to start aiming themselves towards you.
And when they do, you need to ask the tough questions, which is, can you control yourself?
Are you, all the things I talk about with men.
And on the same side, in the same side, everybody, for young ladies, there is this toxicity that is infected.
Because everyone says toxic masculinity, there is toxic feminism within the ranks of the dating pool.
And it is toxic.
Which is, you do not have to be a man.
You don't have to present yourself as a man.
Embrace your femininity.
Allow the man to open the door for you.
Allow him to pay for the first check.
In fact, even more than that, you should expect that.
And young ladies, I'll just be very honest, though, that the bitterness that so many young women espouse towards young men, that's the reason why a lot of young women cannot find partners.
And I'll be very honest.
For the young ladies in this room, how many of you say having a family is more important than having a career?
Raise your hand.
Okay, let me just speak to you a truth.
If you are not married by the age of 30, you only have a 50% chance of having children.
If you do not have kids by the age of 30, only 50% chance.
Now, in college, they'll be like, you could freeze your eggs, you could wait for yourself.
If your top priority is family, then your top priority should be family right now.
It should be finding a husband here at CLS or the Student Action Summit.
Go find a husband.
Why are you wasting your time?
The men are like, finally, hallelujah.
Right?
For the young ladies in this room, stop consuming all that crap.
Stop listening to that degenerate sex podcast.
Call her daddy or whatever that garbage is.
Stop doing that.
It's disgusting.
I can't believe anyone listens to that garbage.
Apparently her audience is mostly women.
It's disgusting.
It's gross, actually.
And start as young women going to church, prioritizing what matters most, having community around you that wants to have children and wants to actually build a family.
And look, I could tell you, marriage is the most awesome thing.
Erica and I have the most incredible marriage.
We have two kids.
It's amazing.
But I'm also, I'm not going to lie to you.
It's hard.
It's difficult.
It's challenging.
There's sleepless nights.
If you want an easy life, go be a liberal.
If you want ease, just go say, you know what?
Give me my money.
I'm going to just watch Netflix all day long.
I'm going to smoke weed.
And that's going to be my life.
But you're not here in the summer for what's easy.
You want what's deep.
You want what is good and what is profound.
Young ladies, this is going to get me in trouble.
I don't care.
I've deleted Instagram off my phone, but at times I get these profiles sent to me where it's always like you read the profile and it's like John 3, 16, you know, with the cross, the young lady.
And they're dressed like something out of Playboy.
And I say to myself, do you think that's the way to win a man?
Do you think just plastering your half-naked body all over Instagram, just so you know, oh, wow, men only look at me for my body and look at their social media.
I wonder why.
Because you put the entire body for the world to see out for everybody.
Stop doing that.
Stop it.
And people will say, Charlie, you have no right to tell women.
You can do it if you want.
I'm telling you, it's preventing you from getting what you want.
Because women say like, well, if I plaster myself like it's the Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition all over my social media, men are going to come to me.
Oh, men will come, but they will not stay.
Thank you.
Let me see how else I can get myself in trouble.
Oh, yeah.
Young ladies, demonstrate to your future husband you know how to run a home.
Show them, yep, I know how to cook.
I know how to raise kids.
I can be tender.
I know how to do the laundry.
I can clean.
People say, you're reducing womanhood.
I'm sorry.
Running a home is one of the hardest things in the world.
My wife does stuff that like, I don't even understand.
Like, how do you do that?
Let me go even further.
Being a mom, these are the courageous warriors of our time.
We've reduced it as if they're like, oh, you just want them to be birthing centers.
Everybody, we should lift up the moms of America as being the most beautiful, important things in our country.
And we look around, we're like, oh, I'm an important woman because I'm a CEO of some shoe company.
Yay.
No, okay, okay, fine, great.
Doesn't impress me.
Do you know what does impress me?
When somebody comes to one of our turning points and say events, they're like, Yeah, I'm a mom of five.
That's impressive.
That's impressive.
And guess what?
The mom of five is going to have a legacy.
When she's on her deathbed, she'll have dozens of grandkids around her and five kids loving her.
The CEO of the shoe company or Alex Cooper.
She's going to, I mean, I don't know if Alex Cooper will have kids or whatever.
And I hope she does.
It might de-radicalize her because she's done such damage.
That perverse individual has done such damage to the female psyche in this country.
It's like unspeakable.
Men are just like women and we should liberate ourselves.
Really, how's that working?
Super depressed.
Young ladies are on medication like we've never seen before.
And they're searching for something that does not exist because they're denying what is right in front of them.
And so if you want to live a life of depth and of purpose, especially young ladies out there, this is the hardest thing because the men thing is easy.
I could talk to men all day long, right?
The thing with young ladies is that you might reject everything I'm saying.
This is just a man saying it.
Fine, you can say that.
But I'm going to tell you right now, you have to basically, you have to sound out, you have to silence out everything that you've been told by the entire popular culture.
The whole popular culture has told you men are equal to women and that you have to go on your own path all the time.
And the most important thing is just your bank account.
And if you want to go pursue your career, God bless you.
That's okay.
It's a free society.
I'm not even shaming you into doing that.
But guess what?
Statistics show 90% of the women here in this room deep down would want a family more than anything else.
And you want kids.
And guess what?
You can always pursue your career later.
You can always pursue your career later.
Last, last thing.
Young ladies, this is those who got me probably the most trouble, and then we'll go do some questions.
Young ladies, you are the best at shaming your friends.
You're amazing at it.
Mean girls is legit.
It's like an actual thing.
Stop being around other women friends without a little bit of social shame when they start bragging about their body counts and they're just talking about free sex all the time.
You don't need them as your friends.
And in fact, you should just give them a little side eye.
Be like, I'm not going to do that, actually.
They're not your friends.
And young ladies, your presentation does matter.
You can't choose your genetics.
You can choose your presentation.
You can choose how seriously you take your skincare routine.
Matters.
How you dress, whether or not you try to get that extra 5% to 10% of how you look, how you present.
That really does matter.
Because the modern world says you could just, and by the way, this whole new phenomenon, I go to these college campuses, and these girls are wearing these bike shorts.
Do you understand how deeply unattractive that is to men?
Men, do you agree?
And these young women are dressed as if they, it's some, and the young ladies are shocked to hear this.
If you want men to look at you no different than a New York strip steak, just dress around in this like ridiculous like bike shorts thing.
It's disgusting, actually.
But if you want, especially on a college campus, to be valued and appreciated, they only care about my body.
Okay, well then start creating an aura around you of piety.
Aura!
And femininity.
Young ladies, you have a lot more power than you realize.
If every young woman all of a sudden said, nope, we're going to stop giving free sex, the men would follow and would no longer be boys, they'd be men.
You do not need to chase that.
Instead, you should say, I'm saving myself from marriage.
I'm going to trust God of my plans.
And if I don't find my man, I don't find my man.
But guess what?
If you prioritize it as your biggest priority and your number one priority in your first couple of years, your success will be remarkable.
So now I'll say this for both sides.
And then we'll do questions.
You both got problems.
And here's my last kicker.
If you're a young man or a young woman in this audience, if you can't find a mate, it's your fault.
It's the modern women.
Yeah, you're right.
The men are all degenerates.
Okay, fine.
I bet I could find five things you could prove immediately.
It is easy to blame other people for your problems.
If you want to find the person to blame as to why you are alone, go look in the mirror.
It'll be one of the most important decisions you can make in your life.
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Hi, Charlie.
My name is Knox, and I'm a senior in high school from Fort Worth, Texas.
And in the theme of the chapter leadership summit, what advice do you have for getting more student engagement for our chapter from the very beginning in an area that may not be as familiar with you or turning point?
So first thing that let's quiet down, guys.
The first thing is that people want to be part of something that is fun.
So you want to make it fun.
You want to make it joyful.
You want to make it purposeful.
But honestly, so much of it has to do with you.
One of the reasons why the left-wing groups on campus are dying is that the people that are running them are so ugly on the inside and out.
They're so nasty and no one wants to associate with them.
So be the opposite of that.
Be welcoming.
Even if people have different viewpoints, be open.
Be long-suffering.
Be honestly like, okay, you don't agree?
That's fine.
Still come.
No one wants to join a movement with unhappy people.
It's one of the reasons why we've had such success at Turning Point USA.
God bless you, man.
Thanks for running the group.
Thank you.
Hi, Charlie.
My name is Delaney.
I'm from Turner, Maine.
And I'm someone who, like, my biggest goal in life is marriage.
Like, anything else, like, I want to be a mom so much.
I wanted to know how you and Erica keep a God-centered marriage and a healthy marriage.
Yeah, it's a great question.
So, by the way, if you want to get married as your top priority, then the chances are you will.
What you make your top priority in life, you likely hit.
You think about it.
For a lot of young people, their top priority is just to feel good.
They make it happen.
It's amazing.
We are creatures designed by God to have to aim at something, to have to have a destination, to have to have purpose.
For us, so I'm actually writing a book about this.
I'm a big believer in it.
I think that everyone here should do this, which is I honor the Sabbath every year, every year.
That's your week.
And I encourage everyone to do this.
Turn off your phone for one day a week.
The world will keep on turning and you will be happier.
What that has meant for our marriage, by honoring the Sabbath, it makes it easier to spend time with the kids, to go to church, to be with one another, and to kind of have a holy covering around that.
And so I encourage all of you guys, you are not so important where you have to have your phone on every single day.
Pick one day a week for us.
It's Friday night to Sunday morning.
I turn my phone off completely.
I'm unreachable by the outside world.
My mind gets clarified.
My body feels better.
I'm not going down checking for notifications all the time.
And so that's one of the ways we do it.
And secondly, it's through spiritual disciplines.
My wife and I pray together.
We fast together.
We go to church together.
And men, let me tell you something that you will never forget.
When you get married, it is your biblical obligation to bring your family to church on a regular basis.
That is the man's role.
Now, let me tell you.
Let me tell you.
When you do not do that and the mom brings the kids to church, that's still okay.
But studies show that if the mom only brings the kids to church, the likelihood of the kids falling in the faith is very low.
But if the dad brings the kids to church, the likelihood is extremely high.
And I'm sure a lot of you were raised in families where the mom was very religious and the dad was, meh.
Who here can resonate with that?
Raise your hand.
A lot of hands go up.
Men, don't create that family for yourself.
I know that, you know, you want to sleep in or, you know, you want to watch a football game.
Get your act together.
Bring your wife, bring your kids, and bring them to church.
That sets an example for your kids that you value God over comfort.
It's a very, very important truth.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Good morning, Charlie.
My name is Yaslam.
I'm from Texas.
I am studying both business and Christian studies as someone whose deepest desire is to be a wife and a mom and embrace a biblical family.
Do you believe that the current economic climate in the U.S. will realistically support that lifestyle for future generations?
Right now it does not.
And this is something I hope President Trump really fixes.
It is harder than ever to own a home, harder than ever to afford basic necessities.
By the way, just so we are clear, this is not an excuse not to have kids.
Even if you don't have the money to have the kids, you should still have kids.
It's never a reason not to bring new souls into this world.
It might be hard.
It might be difficult.
There might be some challenges, but it will develop your character.
We need to make it easier to be able to own homes.
We need to, first and foremost, we need to deport about 20 million people in this country that are here unnecessarily.
Secondly, we need to make it easier to own homes.
We need to build like 10 million homes.
The American dream that your parents experienced is increasingly out of reach for many of you.
This is why President Trump won, and it's time that we actually fulfill that mandate.
It is harder than ever to support a family of four in this country.
In 1985, you could support a family of four with about 35 weeks of labor, one husband or one father.
Now it requires 60 weeks of labor, so the wife has to go into the workforce.
People say, Charlie, what is success look like?
If I was running the whole operation, it would be one very simple goal.
You ready?
I want a country where the mom does not have to go work if she does not want to go work.
It's that simple.
If she wants to go work, great, fine, terrific.
No, I mean that.
Like some people make it work, but I think you all in this audience know there's something cruel and unusual for a mom of a nine-month-old to have to give over that nine-month-old to strangers to go work at some stupid dead-end job as like an administrator.
Nothing against her.
She's got to do what she's got to do.
There's something wrong about that.
There's something disordered about that.
There's something cruel and unusual.
Here's my nine-month-old baby daycare.
And by the way, if you use daycare, that's fine.
I'm not criticizing you.
But I think deep down, most moms sob inside when they drive to daycare, wishing they could actually raise their kids all day long, but the economics are messing it up.
And let me just say one last thing to the men.
For men out there, this will not apply to all of you because some of you guys might end up being police officers or firefighters or join the military.
And God bless you for that.
We need more people to do that.
I mean that.
However, men, you need early on in life to do whatever it takes to try, if it makes working two jobs, not sleeping, going through the night, that during that precious period of time, you can buy, literally buy, your wife to be able to stay at home.
We as men should do everything humanly possible to make that happen.
God bless you.
Thank you so much.
Good morning, Charlie.
My name is Mason Fouquet.
I'm the vice president of the Wichita State University chapter.
My mom and dad have religiously followed your videos for years.
They've made me a huge fan, and I was able to join Turning Point through that, so I'm extremely thankful.
My question is, one thing my mom always tells me is that she's scared for my generation when we're in our 40s, 50s, and 60s.
What do you think is the number one most imminent danger for us that we're going to be seeing as we get older?
Several.
Great question.
First and foremost, and I think we're changing it.
I think you guys are changing it just by.
I got to remark on something.
And by the way, Art, can you give it up for the turning point?
You say, staff, they do such a great job.
Don't they do a great job?
And so, they really do a great job.
But let me say, we've been doing this chapter leadership summit for a couple years.
And a couple years, six years ago, seven years ago, there wouldn't have been this kind of applause for God or for traditional masculinity or femininity.
This is a new thing that you and Gen Z are leading.
So I think we're starting to spiritually repair the country.
So the biggest problem more than anything else is spiritual sickness.
The fact that we are distancing ourselves from God, that we think we're our own God, it's a massive problem.
That will destroy everything.
That will explode the national debt.
That will keep the borders open.
That will make kids increasingly trans.
That's a huge problem is the spiritual sickness.
If we can fix that, the next couple other problems is we need to deport 20 million people or else we will not have a country, period.
We need mass deportations and we need them now.
Thirdly, other threats.
You look at the rise of Zoran Mamdani and Europe.
The rise of Islamism in the West is a major problem.
If you do not share American values, you are not welcome in the United States of America.
Period.
End of story.
And so the rise of Islamism is a major, major problem.
And so finally, I would say other threats.
Obviously, the debt and the deficit, our educational gap, but I'm actually optimistic.
You know, I'm optimistic.
You understand this room, you know, 1,200 students like you could change the world.
The impact that you can have on campus, the offices that you will run on, and guys, do you understand?
We're going to have 7,000 up in the main room coming up in just a couple of hours.
And so the ripple effect of what 7,000 people can do that are building godly marriages and putting together ordered homes and supporting their churches and supporting their communities.
Imagine that ripple effect.
So I got a lot of concerns, but I also am staring at a lot of hope.
God bless you.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Charlie.
We'd love to see you at Wichita State.
Thank you.
Hello, Charlie.
I am 19 years old and I'm engaged to the love of my life and my best.
Amazing.
Give it up for you.
That's incredible.
So we met in church and we've been together for four years now.
I wanted to know what your advice is for criticism from others outside of the church, even criticism in the church for being engaged and getting married so young.
This is so amazing.
So what denomination are you?
We're non-denominational.
Yeah, just to be clear, again, I'm not Catholic.
I have big problems with Catholicism, but I have incredible respect for Catholicism, like more so than almost most evangelicals.
There would not be, I think, a single Catholic diocese that would criticize a 19-year-old for getting married.
Like, what is wrong with us evangelicals that someone would dare criticize a 19-year-old for getting married?
Shame on us as evangelicals who do that.
It's disgusting, actually.
Disgusting, right?
So I want you to think about this.
Here's a young lady at 19, and I pray your marriage works out and lasts long, and you should need to work at that.
I'll give you some advice on that, right?
But they're like, oh, you're too young.
So here's a young lady that's rejecting hookup culture.
She's rejecting kind of aimless promiscuity.
She wants to have children, I'm imagining, right?
And she's doing it at a young, appropriate age, and you receive criticism by doing that.
You know what that goes to show?
The American evangelical church has been infected by modernity and feminism, and that needs to be completely collapsed and rebuilt in a biblical image.
It's repulsive.
And it doesn't surprise me because so much American Christianity, again, this is why so many kids are becoming Catholic.
Again, I have deep respect for Catholicism, and I get it.
I understand it.
Again, I'm not Catholic, but I think Catholicism has done a lot of good for the world and continues to.
But one of the reasons why is that our American evangelical churches have become so socially liberal.
And this is an example.
The criticism, tune it out.
You serve one entity, and that is God and God Almighty.
You don't serve man.
You don't serve their approval.
You serve God.
Now, let me give you some piece of advice.
You need to do premarital counseling.
I hope you are.
But I'm going to write a book.
I got a couple books.
I got the Sabbath book.
And then the next book I'm going to write is 100 questions that you need to answer before you get married.
And people are really excited about this, right?
So let me give you a couple.
Are you ready?
Okay.
I hope you know this.
You need to know first your own nature.
Are you introverted or extroverted?
And then you need to know your spouse's nature.
Are they introverted or extroverted?
You need to ask another question.
I got like, I got 100 of them.
Another really good one.
Were they raised?
This is one that almost no one ever asks.
Were they raised in a home that was open or closed?
How many of you were raised in a closed home?
No friends over, very quiet nights.
You know what I'm talking about, right?
Parents were like, you know, don't ever bring anyone over without permission.
You do a barbecue once a decade.
You know what I'm talking about?
Now, how many of you were raised in an open home, which was like full house?
Everyone comes on over.
You know what I'm talking about?
Now, imagine you're about to get married to someone that was raised in an open home and you were raised in a closed home, right?
Disaster.
They're going to just start inviting people over.
You're a party.
You're not used to that.
You're like, wait, no, no, the home is sacred.
Like, no, the home is open.
The home is fun.
And that creates a ton of tension.
Here's a big one who's going to control the money, do a sample budget for three years.
What's an acceptable amount of debt?
Who gets the credit cards?
Who pays off the credit cards?
How often are you going to vacation?
Here's another one that no one talks about.
What types of vacation?
For example, I think cruises are no different than Gitmo.
Like, I think cruises are awful.
Do you agree?
People can boom me.
Do you guys agree?
No, that's fine.
I'm not marrying you, so I don't care.
So I don't seek to appease your weird love of being seasick for eight days and eating food that gives you food, seasickness, and a bunch of people fighting in the pool.
Like, what is that?
That's a vacation?
Like, I mean, I think cruises are disgusting.
But anyway, some people love cruises.
And they want, like, for them, it's big.
You know, you don't have to worry about anything.
Everything's taken care of.
And I get that.
It's fine.
It's not how I'm wired.
So you have to figure out what type of vacations.
Here's the biggest one that almost never gets discussed because it's taboo.
You need to say, honey, what vices are you currently struggling with, public and private?
And what will be acceptable vices in our marriage?
It's better to find out now if you're struggling with pornography than later.
Because you can figure that out.
You can have sympathy for it.
People don't talk about, oh, my husband doesn't watch pornography.
Maybe does.
He maybe doesn't.
But you should confront that.
Or what will be acceptable vices?
Will it be okay to drink in the home?
How often will drinking be tolerated?
One drink, two drinks, three drinks?
Drinking on weeknights, drinking on weekends?
How about this?
How early are we going to wake up?
Are you a sleeper in or are you an early riser?
Right?
Other things.
Is it okay to smoke marijuana?
Are we going to have dessert a lot?
Are we going to be okay to kind of just be a slovenly couple or do we really want to care about our fitness and how we look?
This is important stuff that you think you probably know about your spouse that you don't.
That needs to be said audibly and written down and a third party needs to coach you through that.
And all of a sudden, you know, they'll say this and he'll be like, oh yeah, it's perfectly fine that I smoke a cigar.
You smoke a cigar?
Big, right?
And so you go through that early and you figure out some framework because here's the key.
Premarital counseling will give you the framework to refer to when things start to fall apart because they will.
And if you didn't do that premarital work, there's no framework and everyone acts surprised.
And the other one, which I think is really important, does your spouse have male friends?
If you are marrying a man and he does not have close male friends, that is a red flag.
I'm just being, I'm not trying to break up your marriage, by the way, but it is critical if a man does not, and then meet his friends.
And for men out there, same with your future wife.
Does she have close female friends and meet her friends?
Because let me tell you right now, when things go bad, she's going to start spending time with her friends and you want to know who they are and what their character is.
Final point.
This is more for men than it is for women.
Men, you are marrying your future mother-in-law.
The mom becomes the mother more times than not.
Make sure you get to know the mother, who she is, how she acts, gets along with her.
And if not, be like, is that who I would eventually want to be with 20 or 30 years from now?
My mother-in-law is like the greatest person ever.
She's an angel.
It's a lot of advice.
I don't remember your question, but I wish you well on your marriage and God bless you.
So thank you.
Thank you.
Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
I'm excited to tell you that I'll be speaking at the Culture and Christianity Conference at World Outreach Church just south of Nashville, Tennessee this September, and I'm inviting you to join me.
My friend, Pastor Alan Jackson, organized this conference so we can address the issues we're facing in today's culture, but through the lens of God's truth.
We'll talk about what's happening in the church, the media, and with our help.
When you'll attend, you'll gain insight and valuable perspectives on what's happening in the world today.
Learn how to recognize truth from deception.
Find boldness so you could defend your faith with confidence and compassion.
Join me, Pastor Alan, Sage Steele, Dr. Bill Lyle, and many more.
September 19th and 20th.
Registration is now open.
There's never been a more important time to seek the truth, embrace the truth, and boldly deliver the truth to the people around us.
Come find out what's happening in the world around us and what you can do to make a difference.
Learn more and register at alanjackson.com slash Charlie.
That's alanjackson.com slash Charlie.
I'll see you there.
My name is Ashley.
I'm from North Carolina, and I do have a question, but before that, I just wanted to let you know.
I'm married.
I have two children.
Praise the Lord.
God bless you.
Thank you.
I just want to let you know that listening to you, being around you, and being around all the people here, being a part of Turning Point has changed my life more than anything.
And I'm so appreciative of it.
And I love, it's crazy that I'm even this close to you.
Like, this is nuts.
But I tried to find a question that you hadn't been asked before because I figured everybody had been asking about abortion and stuff, but nobody did.
Anyways, my question is, what are your thoughts on physician-assisted suicide?
Should it be legal for individuals with severe depression or should it be limited to those with terminal illnesses?
I'm against it in all cases.
I'm against physician-assisted suicide.
So let me tell you why.
First, it's called euthanasia clinically is what it's called.
First of all, in Canada, it is widespread.
There is a guy by the name of Dr. Kvorkian.
Dr. Death, you might remember reading about him.
You should research Dr. Kevorkian.
And it turns out he was doing it in a predatory way, finding people with depression and just getting them up for just assisted physician suicide.
Why do we stand against it?
Well, in a culture of life, absent you taking another life, because I am actually pro-death penalty because you deserve it, because the Bible commands it.
But outside of that, just because you have depression, that is not a reason to take your life.
And I know that people suffer from it, but we do not believe that you just press the escape hatch on life when things are difficult or hard, that life is a precious gift from God.
So people will say, well, it's their choice.
It's bodily autonomy.
What we find is that these clinicians are literal predators.
They will go after poor people that are suffering and just offer them this.
And they have so much potentiality.
Last point I'll make on this.
There was a young lady.
I think she was in the Netherlands or in Sweden.
She was like 31 years old.
Do you guys remember this?
She was on TikTok about a year and a half ago and it went super viral.
And she was like, I'm depressed.
I've tried everything.
I'm going to do physician-assisted suicide.
31 years old.
I'm sorry.
There's something deeply wrong with modernity and the West.
If a 31-year-old goes and kills herself with physician-assisted suicide.
And guess what?
We already have a suicide epidemic.
Why would we make it even bigger?
The problem is not that it's too easy to kill yourself.
It's that we've not given people the right reasons to live.
And everybody, if you want to summarize modernity, it is a death cult.
Modernity is abortion, death cult, physician, physician, suicide, death cult, endless war, death cult.
I mean, you look at the amount of culture of death.
We stand for a culture of life.
What does it say in the scriptures?
The enemy has come to lie, steal, cheat, and destroy.
Christ says, but I have come to give life and life more abundantly.
John 10, 10.
God bless you.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Hey, Charlie.
First of all, it's so nice to finally meet you in person.
My name is Colton Reisgaard.
My question is, as a leader of a conservative organization at UNC Wilmington, how can we win over students who quietly agree with us, but are too afraid to speak out on campus?
Yeah, it's a tough question.
I mean, that's where you need to try to build your chapter into critical mass, to try to get the membership numbers and to try to get the students that are so big that they can't ignore you.
And I think we've done that.
I mean, where's my University of Florida, Florida State University?
Our campus tour this last semester was unbelievable.
By the way, we're going to a lot more of your campuses this fall.
We're coming to a campus near you.
It's going to be amazing.
So I wish I had a more non-generic answer, but generally, here's what I'll say.
You need to make it fun.
You need to make it where people feel that they will not have the social cost of them being deleted.
And you do that through numbers, and you do that through you kind of taking the bullets for them, if that makes sense.
We're running low on time.
I wish I could give a longer answer.
Thank you so much.
God bless you.
Thank you.
God bless.
Hi, Charlie.
It's an honor to meet you.
My name is Michael Abel, and I am the treasurer of the Cleveland State University branch of TPUSA.
And my question is, what is your opinion of Edward Snowden and should President Trump pardon him?
Yes.
He should be pardoned.
Thank you very much.
God bless you, Charlotte.
Thank you.
Hello, Mr. Kirk.
It's finally nice to meet you.
My name is James Joseph Ahm, and I'm the president of the Catholic University of America.
First and foremost, my girlfriend is a huge fan of yours.
I want to give a shout out to my girlfriend, Haley.
I love you so much, Haley.
You're the president.
I love you so much, Haley.
Now, my question is for you, is my chapter has been facing a lot of, like, our administration has tried multiple ways to shut our chapter down.
At Catholic University.
Yes, at Catholic University.
That's the thing.
I know it's the Catholic school, but our administration, they're extremely liberal.
But my question is for you is for future people who, you know, want to continue my chapter, because currently I'm the president and my secretary is here.
I don't know where he is, but he's somewhere here.
How can I still maintain my connection with people in my university while also still continuing like my day-to-day life?
So do you mean once you graduate or I'm already graduated, sir?
Yeah, you need to find a core of good students.
So succession planning is a big thing that we deal with at Turning Point USA.
You have to find a good core of students that are younger.
And honestly, I bet you can find them through the student organization fair.
But are you going to work in DC or are you going to move out of DC?
I'm going to stay in DC because that's what I'm going to do.
Staying in DC helps, right?
But finding at least two or three core students to be able to pass that chapter down is instrumental and very important.
God bless you and get married young.
Thank you, man.
Thank you so much.
Hi, Charlie.
My name is Emmett Roberts.
I am the chapter president at the brand new chapter at the College of Central Florida in Ocala.
Awesome.
First of all, I just want to thank you so much for everything that you've done for America, but also for Christ.
You are a great example of what it means to be Christ-like.
In your debates, you're not only there to preach the truth and protect America, but you're there to preach the gospel.
And you do that with such compassion.
And I just wanted to thank you for that.
Thank you for that.
My question goes back to home.
I lead a Bible study, and we have about 25 kids.
And we got a family in from Canada.
They're immigrating, and the older brother, and that, there's two siblings.
The older brother is a friend of mine.
He just turned 18.
So he has the decision of whether or not to actually pursue citizenship.
I have a lot of respect for him.
And he's not really considering pursuing citizenship in America.
Because first of all, and I agree with him on this, is that we are citizens of the kingdom of God.
And he says, second of all, that any earthly citizenship is essentially irrelevant.
So I have two questions.
First of all, should I, as a Christian, should I try to persuade him or convince him to pursue American citizenship?
And second of all, how do I?
Yeah, so from a Christian perspective, a citizenship is not irrelevant.
You should remind him.
That is not a biblical stance.
So the people of Israel had different laws and customs than those outside of the nation of Israel.
Even Paul, when he was under persecution, he invoked his Roman citizenship.
It mattered to Paul.
So that's a good thing to tell your friend, being like, even when Paul was up against all the opposition, that is why Paul was beheaded.
He was not crucified because Roman citizens were never crucified.
It was in Roman law.
So citizenship actually does matter.
We get the whole concept of citizenship from the Bible.
If he doesn't want to be an American citizen, then I would ask him, then why are you here?
Why are you benefiting from all the blessings, enjoying all the privileges, but you want to engage in none of the responsibility?
How is that biblical?
How is it biblical just to live in a place and I'm not saying he's leeching, but he's not contributing.
He might be paying taxes, but now when you're a citizen, it is a different standard.
It is a different standard.
And so I would ask him that question.
And again, there's nothing biblical about his belief.
He is right that our true citizenship is in the kingdom of God.
The Bible also says, though, that nations will be judged in the end of times, that nations and boundaries and borders are all biblical examples for that reason.
Nehemiah built the wall in the book of Deuteronomy.
There were stones put around the border edges of the nation of Israel.
And so it sounds like it's somewhat of a modern socially left view that he has.
And if he doesn't want to be an American citizen, ask him, fine, why don't you go to Ottawa or Toronto and tell me how free it is versus here in America?
Why don't you go on the streets of Toronto and give a sermon in the open air about how Muhammad was a pedophile?
Can you do that?
No, they would come after you for hate speech, blasphemy laws, or some Muhammadan would come hunt you in the streets.
We in America have freedom of speech.
And what drives me nuts, I'm not saying your friend is in this category, is people that come here and have no appreciation for how awesome this country is and how amazing it is.
Thank you so much.
Hey, my name is Hank Limbaugh from Johns Creek, Georgia.
And I was wondering, what effect will AI have on future jobs?
A huge effect.
I mean, that's part of one of the reasons why I say college is a scam.
A lot of the jobs that you guys are pursuing are going to be replaced.
However, I will say that when I asked people their majors, there were some really good answers.
You know, animal science, that's not going to be replaced by AI anytime soon.
You know, certain electrical engineering jobs.
But what will be disrupted is that mid-level management, the middle part of the, I see the college scam book right there, the kind of middle part of these companies.
What matters most, and unfortunately, this is lost on a lot of college education.
What matters most is not the skills you get, but the character you develop.
The character you develop will be everlasting, much longer than the skills that you get while you're in college.
But look, I mean, I bet half you guys in this audience are writing your essays with ChatGPT.
Like, I bet.
And you know I'm right.
Oh, only one fourth.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
But look, AI can be a good thinking partner, but I'm telling you guys, be very careful if you are replacing your own ability to reason with AI.
You will be less human, and there is nothing sacred and nothing biblical with you outsourcing your humanity to a bunch of numbers on a screen.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
This will be our last question.
Hi, I'm Mackenzie, and I'm actually a Canadian citizen.
So my question for you is, as someone who is pursuing American citizenship.
Good for you.
You want to be a citizen.
Yeah, good.
Yeah.
As someone who is pursuing American citizenship, how do I get involved in American causes without being able to vote?
So you can volunteer as a Canadian citizen.
You can help on campaigns.
You can advocate with part of Turning Point USA.
You don't need to be a citizen for any of that.
But once you become a citizen, then you can vote.
All those things as a Canadian citizen are so important.
And just the demonstration and the contrast between how Canada is right now versus America is such a dramatic one that I think should invigorate almost everybody.
So thank you so much.
Really appreciate it.
In closing, everybody, what makes your presence here so dramatic is that you have signed up for something hard.
If you wanted what was easy, you would be a campus liberal shouting about some alleged injustice.
But you have decided, even though you might get canceled, even though you might be smeared or slandered, that you are pursuing the betterment for the United States of America.
And look around this room.
You are not alone.
In this room, you are not alone.
You are around thousands of other fellow travelers that are willing to also fight and sacrifice for this nation.
So what does success look like for your generation?
20 years from now, we want to look back at this chapter leadership summit.
We want to say 20 years from now, church attendance has gone up.
20 years from now, we want to say that the birth rate was reversed.
20 years from now, we want to say the suicide rate has reversed.
20 years from now, we want to say that you're able to own homes, run businesses, that men can be men and women can be women, and that men will no longer be in female sports or female locker rooms.
20 years from now, 20 years from now, we want a nation that speaks English, has a unified culture, that values God again, that has not been taken over by the communist Chinese or by radical Islamism.
And my goodness, if you take 1,100 turning point USA superstars like all of you, and 1,100 libs, I will bet on you guys every single time to win this country.
