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This is what we voted for, which you guys can find at...
Charliekirk.com, because this is what we voted for, and that is actually the theme and the open today, which is the stunning and perplexing politics of immigration.
You see, for almost all of my political career, and for as long as I have memory, Democrats have had an advantage on immigration.
There's issues that they've always had advantages with us over.
Climate, education, and immigration, they almost always have some form of advantage.
Interestingly enough, education, less and less so.
Remember that election where Governor Youngkin won in the great state of Virginia?
He became the governor of Virginia with actual favorability advantage on the issue of education.
But on immigration, Democrats have always had us over a barrel by 20 points or 30 points because what did Republicans stand for when it came to immigration?
And this is the kicker, everybody.
If there is just one thing that you remember that I tell you, it is how wrong, how fraudulent, how deceitful the Jeb Bush, Karl Rove perspective on immigration was.
Back in 2014-2015, we had the Gang of Eight.
And yes, Marco Rubio was part of it, and he has come a long way, and I'm Marco Rubio's biggest fan and supporter.
But yes, we had the Gang of Eight, and I remember it.
This was the first couple of years I was involved in politics.
And it was unchallengeable dogma in the Republican Party that we are going to lose Hispanics forever if we do not pass mass amnesty.
Now, see, this was largely passed and was pushed, I should say, By the Koch brothers, by corporate interests, by the Chamber of Commerce.
This was largely being advanced by sinister multinational corporations that didn't actually care about the politics.
They wanted cheap labor.
And the Democrats were like, sure, you want cheap labor?
We want cheap votes.
Marriage made in heaven.
Instead, what was created is a weapon of mass migration.
Not a weapon of mass destruction.
A weapon of mass migration.
And Jeb Bush and all of the Republican orthodoxy was, and every single donor believed this, we need to win back Hispanics, and by doing so, we have to calm down our rhetoric on immigration.
This is without a doubt one of the greatest missteps, one of the greatest errors in modern, if not all of, Almost everybody fell for this.
And honestly, I was 20 years old at the time.
I was 21 years old at the time.
I kind of fell for it, too.
I was like, well, do we need to water down our language?
And do we need to be more compassionate?
Because a lot of Latinos and Hispanics, they seem to be for open borders, and they have friends that have come here illegally.
And it was a ruse, everybody.
It was a major scam.
Paul Ryan and John McCain, all of the moderate apparatchiks were together saying, we must do this or else we're going to lose Hispanics 90-10.
It'll be like black America.
And they were fear-mongering and they were blackmailing us saying, you must do mass amnesty right now or else you will be a minority party forever and you'll never win back Hispanics.
And 10 years ago to this month, The most consistent political candidate that we've ever seen, Donald Trump changed everything.
He said, nope, they're illegals, many of them are rapists, they're thugs, they're terrible, we're going to build a wall, Mexico will pay for it, we're going to do mass deportations, and he has unwavered in that commitment.
And then we were told by the moderates in the Republican Party, oh, you guys are going to lose us, majorities, you're going to lose elections if you talk like this, and Hispanics will turn against you.
Turns out, The exact opposite was actually the case.
It turns out that the more aggressive and hawkish that we got on immigration, the more Hispanics were coming our way.
The more aggressive and hawkish that we got on immigration, we finally for the first time ever are beating Democrats on the issue of immigration.
It turns out at the core Americans are actually very Very supportive of mass deportations.
And what I love is that the Democrats, they're continually polling this.
Or there's no way America...
America actually wants door-by-door, block-by-block mass deportations.
And the Democrats, they don't quite understand this.
Here is Amy Walter from the Cook Political Report, who accurately says this is the first time ever.
Democrats used to have an advantage over Trump and immigration.
They have a disadvantage now.
Play cut 422.
The question going forward, I think, is how Democrats do talk about these issues.
It's going to be really important for not just what's happening today in Los Angeles, but just writ large.
I think there has been a lot of pullback and a lot of hand-wringing from Democrats about an issue which they used to have an advantage on.
During Trump's first term, they have a disadvantage on now.
This issue isn't going away.
And how Democrats respond to whether this is going to happen in other states, how they address concerns about safety and security, that is going to be critical just for the next, well, forever long.
It's been flipped.
Remember the RNC autopsy report of 2013?
It's funny.
I actually went to one of those meetings.
I was brought.
to one of those RNC donor meetings by Mike Miller, one of my dear friends, runs MJ Miller Jewelers in the suburbs of Chicago in Barrington, Illinois, which I encourage you guys to go to if you have any jewelry needs.
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But he brought me to the RNC autopsy report in Chicago because Reince Priebus, who I really like, he was doing a roadshow.
Just here's the report, here's the data.
And he was going to meet with donors because people were very, very upset with what happened in 2012.
And this is what was in the official RNC autopsy report in 2013.
Quote, Blake, can we tweet this out?
This is so important.
Let me say this again.
Quote, Among the steps Republicans must take in the Hispanic community.
This was the official RNC autopsy report in 2013.
We must embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform.
If we do not, our party's appeal will continue to shrink to its core constituencies only.
This was all before Donald Trump.
Here is Jeb Bush at CPAC back in 2015, 2016, probably 2015.
Play cut 448.
What we need, which are economic-driven immigrants, those that want to come here to work, to invest in their dreams in this country, to create opportunities for all of us.
And that's what we need to get to.
Chamber of Commerce, Balderdash.
Jeb Bush being applauded by the 19 different K Street lobbyists that he bussed on over to the Gaylord Hotel.
And you have the Jeb Bush, you have the RNC autopsy, Donald Trump changed it all.
And now we have an advantage on the immigration issue.
America supports it.
51% of people want mass deportations.
54% people want raids on violent criminals.
A 20-point lead on the mobilization of the National Guard.
And Donald Trump changed it all.
Donald Trump knew it.
He intuited it.
Knowing at its core that There was going to be a huge political realignment in a way where the Democrats still are reacting, and you know who supports it the most?
Immigrants.
That's right.
Do you know that legal first-generation immigrants, foreign-born immigrants, are actually more hawkish on immigration than Americans?
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This is the fight we've been waiting for.
You see, the Democrats, they're making a major strategic error, but they're not going to, regardless of what I say on the show, they're not going to stop because they are enthused with pathological energy when it comes to open borders.
Open borders is the life force of the globalist elite.
It is a baseline fundamental belief of the Democrat party.
Thou End of story.
We are the only political movement to say, no mas, no more, hasta la vista, adios.
The Democrat Party built their entire coalition on the great replacement reality.
We are going to have millions of people come into the country and try to replace the native-born population to change the politic.
If you can't win elections because the people don't support you, well, then change the people.
Replace them.
And so just flood it with...
Do you know we actually don't know how many illegals are in this country?
Do you know it's kind of a guesstimate?
It could be 20 million, it could be 30 million, it could be 40 million.
We have no idea.
A couple thoughts on this.
So Kim Kardashian has come out this morning.
Oh my goodness, it's terrible.
We're told that ICE exists to just keep our country safe and remove violent criminals.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
You know, immigrants are terrific.
But you don't understand Kim Kardashian.
Do you understand that every single one of these people, they're actually in violation of federal law?
Number one, it's a federal crime to enter and remain in the U.S. without permission.
8 U.S.C.
1325.
Illegal entry.
That's right.
Illegal entry.
It's a felony.
Failure to register with the government is a crime.
8USC 1302-1312.
That's right.
You actually, if you are here illegally, do you know that you must tell the government and be fingerprinted after 30 days?
Do you know that if you're here illegally, you have to tell the government every year of your address?
8USC 1305.
How many of these illegals are telling the federal government, here is my address every single year?
I bet there's like eight in the history of mass migration that have ever done this.
They're all breaking federal law.
So people say, oh, we only want to deport the criminals.
This is not just cherry-picking.
This is straight, mainstream federal law enforcement.
18 U.S.C.
1546, using fake documents to enter or stay as a felony.
How about this one?
8 U.S.C.
1305, must notify the government of your current address every year.
Also, fake visas, green cards, social security numbers, which they all use, called document fraud.
18 U.S.C.
1546.
Identity theft.
To be able to work.
That is 18 U.S.C.
10281028A.
Or how about working without authorization violates federal law?
18 U.S.C.
1311342A.
Or re-entry after deportation is a felony.
8 U.S.C.
1326.
And some of these, by the way, they'll say, oh, you know, some of those are civil.
Actually, some of these are not civil misdemeanors.
Some of these are not.
These are hard, cold felonies.
And now, Kim Kardashian's like, oh, you know, we have to keep the borders open.
Okay, Kim, how about I send this to your palatial mansion?
How about I send Eswin?
You want to go hang out with him?
This is who you are supporting, Kim Kardashian, just so we are clear.
Eswin Uriel Castro.
ICE arrested Eswin Uriel Castro, a previously deported illegal alien, has criminal convictions for child molestation and being armed with a dangerous weapon.
He's also previously been arrested for robbery and domestic violence.
I have a new cast member for Keeping Up with the Kardashians.
Gerardo Antonio Palasoyas, an illegal alien from Mexico.
He used criminal convictions for homicide and burglary.
How's that, Kim?
These are the people that we are currently deporting that you are trying to get in the way of.
The rioting, the burning of cars, Waymo's going after cops.
They want Antonio Benito Giurgarte to stay.
What is him?
He seems like a really nice fella.
An illegal alien.
Oh, he's been convicted of drug trafficking.
And no, not Ozempic Kim Kardashian, like actual hard drugs.
How about Mob Kleb?
This guy sounds, he's sweet.
This one is a perfect cast member for the Hollywood elite.
ICE Los Angeles arrested Mob Kaleb, a 53-year-old illegal, oh, from Cambodia.
He just wanted a better life.
He just wanted to improve his well-being.
Well, he has a criminal history of transport of controlled substance, possession of controlled substance, oh, and a lewd action with a child, and battery.
These are just four examples in the last couple of days of real people, real stories, That Joe Biden let them be here, and ICE is finding them, and ICE is removing them.
And every single illegal alien has broken federal law.
I just went through all the different details.
And the final point I'll make is this, and we have Senator Eric Schmidt joining us.
This is a strike zone issue for us.
Rarely, everybody, do you get the trifecta, an issue that is popular, an issue that is mandatory to save civilization, and an issue.
And this qualifies all three.
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Joining us now is Senator Eric Schmidt.
We agree on everything except for the fact he's a Cardinals fan.
Go Cubs!
Who's number one in the NL Central right now?
It's amazingly the Chicago Cubs, second best team in baseball.
It's great.
The Cubs haven't been good for like 10 years and I'm enjoying actually watching them.
So I think it's going to be a baseball game tonight.
As you know, Cubs stands for completely useless by September, so be glad it's just June.
Listen, we win a World Series every 108 years, and that's great.
Okay?
It's kind of like seeing...
Listen, these things happen kind of when the divine stars align.
I'll never forget.
Cubs win the World Series and President Donald Trump becomes elected president in 2016.
How dare you?
I can't believe you threw that.
Within like 72 hours, okay?
And of course, in the most Cubbies way imaginable, it was Game 7, extra innings.
And my grandma, may she rest in peace, she seemed like every Cubs game since 1949, right?
She literally would fill out the scorecard.
I'll never forget.
We go to extra innings and she says one thing.
We're going to blow it.
I said, you are the most proven Cubs fan ever.
She's like, we are going to blow this.
And when we won, it was almost like, wait, we won the world.
It's hard.
I mean, Senator, you'd get it.
I don't want to spend much time on this, but the audience can't understand the weight.
It was for the Cubs to not win a World Series.
And because people like you would constantly be taunting us.
Well, there was a lot.
Yes, that's right.
Well, as you know, the Cardinals are the crown jewel of the National League with 11 World Series, second only to the Yankees.
So I guess, you know, every 108 years.
Something like that's bound to happen.
I'm happy for your grandmother.
That's right.
And so my great-grandkids will enjoy the next World Series.
And so I will say, though, I think that we have a World Series more recently than you guys.
2011.
It's true.
2011 versus 2016.
That's true.
You have that on us, so we've got to change that.
It's going to be a fun summer, and I hope we can enjoy some good spirit at NL Central Baseball.
Speaking of which, though, it's a funny side note.
You guys have the congressional baseball game tonight, is that right?
Yeah, we've got it tonight.
Playing left field.
And last year we won 31-11.
So it's pretty – There's 30,000 people there at Nats Park.
Charlie, it's on Fox Sports 1 and C-SPAN if you want to tune in.
It's fun, but we've got a pretty...
You know, Stuby and Pfluger and myself, but we got some So hopefully we can put up some runs tonight.
So it's really funny.
Democrats used to win all the congressional baseball games like 10 years ago.
And then, as the Democrat Party has become super old, full of women and a tranny, it's really hard to play baseball, and the Republican Party is more masculine and younger.
Again, this is not even like, it's kind of a joke, but it is an interesting data point that the baseball game is a reflection of the current composition of your party.
Yeah, no, it is.
I think we're younger, we're better.
I'm the only senator that...
Joni Ernst plays, but the only starter.
So it's a lot of house members.
But, you know, and for me, that's been great.
You get to know these guys.
Scalise is still out there.
He leads off the game, as you know, in 2017.
I mean, he almost died.
So it's a remarkable story.
But, yeah, we get after it in the mornings, like 5.45 in the morning for practice.
Crazy.
So tonight, it's all on the field.
Yeah, and by the way, just so everyone remembers, that was literally, like, what, eight years ago.
Steve Scalise was shot.
And nearly killed at a congressional baseball game practice by a Democrat.
A Democrat came and tried to murder him.
All right, so Senator, you're in a little bit of a feud right now with the president of Mexico.
Tell us about it.
Yeah, I mean, we were actually honestly working on this remittance reform.
So the House put, like right now, if you're an illegal immigrant and you send money back to Mexico, There's no tax on that, right?
So, in the House version, they put a 3.5% tax on that.
We were already working.
To double that, like, on the Senate side, as that's come over here, I've filed that bill.
That's an issue that's important to me.
I think it does a couple things we can talk about, like discourage illegal immigration and fairness, because a lot of these folks are being paid under the table.
And they ought to, you know, like Americans pay taxes, they should pay taxes too.
And then the president of Mexico issues this threat that if, like, if this remittance tax goes in, you know, we're going to rise up.
It was very strange.
And so I went on X and said, well, that's interesting.
How about 15% now?
And then the president of the Mexican Senate talked about it yesterday, and I said, well, how about 20%?
So let's just keep going with this.
But it is interesting.
it's like 4% of their GDP is from this remittance that comes from the United States and my position is Like, we're a sovereign country, and you ought to be taxed on these remittances.
So I'm hopeful that we'll get that number up from the House bill on the Senate side.
And look, we are a sovereign country.
And if you want to send money home, just principally, we're not necessarily against that.
What this is about, though, is that this has become a primary subsidy as to why mass migration is happening.
It's a forcing function.
Right?
And so, let's just be very clear.
If you come here, you know, legally from Vietnam, you want to send money, that's not the problem.
The problem is that, therefore, the Mexican government is financially incentivized to keep the invasion going.
That's why remittances are so important.
We're not trying to be cruel or unusual.
It's that the Mexican government has turned a blind eye for quite some time, and it's literally tens of billions of dollars.
Okay, I want to play two pieces of tape here.
First is...
I don't know who she thinks she is or what cards she thinks she's holding, or she's saying that she'll unleash the cartels against us.
That's the only card she really has.
Playcut 252.
If needed, we will definitely mobilize because we absolutely cannot accept any new taxes on remittances sent by our hardworking folks in the U.S. to their families back home in Mexico.
Okay, what does she mean by mobilize, Senator?
I don't know.
That's sort of strange.
I don't know, but you don't have to probably guess, go too far out on a limb.
The truth is that this mass migration that we've seen that needs to be met with mass deportations is fueled by this international NGO network that, you know, in most the insult to injury, American taxpayers were subsidizing through USAID in many instances, right?
But they know exactly what they're sending a signal.
She's sending a signal that in the United States, what, you know, it should be no coincidence this happened around the time that the, you know, the L.A. riots were starting, that somehow this is like...
I don't know exactly what it means, but we're going to mobilize.
I don't know what that means, but...
I know I don't, and that's why I think that this issue, which was important anyway, I think becomes even more front and center because of her comments.
Let's play here.
This is now the president of the Mexican Senate.
I think he's mocking you.
This is in Spanish, but with subtitles.
Yeah, so basically for the podcast audience that doesn't speak Spanish, he's mocking you, but it's worth playing.
Let's play cut 449.
Okay, so at the end he's saying, Did I hear that?
Was I referred to as the devil?
Yeah, I mean, I think it was dialogue, actually.
I don't think he was quite calling you Diablo.
But the part that was important is en fuego on gasoline.
So these are kind of very—it's very interesting.
I want everyone to remember.
I want to introduce a third data point.
So we have the president of Mexico, Steinbaum.
We have this president of the U.S., the Mexican Senate.
And do you remember under Joe Biden, the obrador?
Do you remember— That he also similarly threatened.
He was like, if you don't give us our aid money, you're not going to like what happens.
And that was like a lesser covered story.
It just kind of went away.
And Biden just kind of like flooded in a ton of capital to Mexico.
So, Senator, I don't want to speculate too much, but are they threatening the United States of America?
It sure seems that way.
And I don't, again, I don't know exactly what they mean by mobilize or throwing fuel on the fire.
I mean, if you put it in the context of the time in which they're making these comments, you have an American city burning with people waving Mexican flags, right?
Maybe it's a signal that's being sent, which, again, is I think why President Trump's leadership is so important to get the National Guard there to help to end this thing.
But I think that, Charlie, for the...
a lot of our leadership, Republican and Democrat, sort of seeded a lot of important aspects of whether it's related to trade, how we, you know, engage in foreign conflicts and sending, you know, our boys off to fight in foreign wars.
There's been this sort of globalist end of history kind of moment where people thought that everybody, you know, that...
Like that's what was exposed with all this doge stuff.
But it also is a mentality that somehow people in other countries are entitled to our money.
And that's not the case.
We can make those decisions only if it furthers the interests of the United States of America.
But you don't just get it.
We're not the piggy bank.
You know, we're not the patron for all of these ridiculous causes, and we certainly shouldn't be to funnel an effort to, you know, bring...
So I think this is tied together as sort of globalist mindset, mass migration.
It's all part of it.
And they're mad that the United States is maybe changing direction here.
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Senator, Big Beautiful Bill, what's going on here?
Some of your colleagues are putting up a real fight on behalf of fiscal conservatism.
Where are the negotiations?
After these riots and after this bedlam, it is mandatory that we pass the Big Beautiful Bill.
It is mission critical.
I agree.
I think that the border provisions, the immigration law enforcement It's on full display as to why, when you see what's happening right now, when you literally have people who are trying to prevent ICE from enforcing immigration law and deport people, which is exactly what President Trump ran on.
So we need more detention facilities.
We need more ICE agents.
We need more enforcement efforts.
We need more deportations, right?
And so the bill does go a long way.
And I think everybody's very supportive of that.
And I think the reasons why are highlighted on the television screen every night now.
And I think as it made its way to the Senate, the House did great work on this.
And I think the Senate, we're actually, we have a lunch today to talk about it.
I'm actually going to be visiting with President Trump later today to talk about some of the provisions.
I think the Senate wants to make sure if we can find more savings, we want to go do that.
And I think that will make the big, beautiful bill even more beautiful.
But I will say that I think everybody's united that at the end of the day, we get this thing done.
It's got a lot of President Trump's priorities.
They're very, very popular with the American people and the things that he ran on.
So I'm still very optimistic.
I think we're aiming for the 4th of July on the Senate side.
And then that would give a couple of weeks that, you know.
And so, Senator, part of the provisions as far as cost savings, I know that there is some fear that we're not going to be able to send it back to the U.S. House to be able to get those through, but there's so much good stuff that we hope stays.
No tax on tips.
Major border security, increase in ICE agents.
So what are the elements then you think that will be emphasized or focused on between your colleagues to find those cost savings?
Well, there's just nobody in the Senate that really likes what was done with SALT.
You know, and you look at what's happening in California, the subsidizing the terrible policy decisions of blue state governors.
There's just not a, there's not support for that in the Senate.
I, having said that, um, we understand the, um, So we're very well aware of that.
But you're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars, again, to subsidize terrible decisions in New York and California and Illinois.
My neighbor, J.B. Pritzker, right?
So there's definitely a conversation about that, what we can do to find savings there.
We just talked about the remittance tax.
That would add billions, bringing more revenue in by taxing remittances from Illinois.
I think that we're trying to figure out a place where we can maximize the savings, but also deliver on President Trump's promises.
And I'm very optimistic that we're going to get there.
And we have to unlock growth, right?
We got to get to a 3% to 4% growth calculus.
We have to, which is about...
I think there's some pent-up investment demand that is just willing to be unleashed in our country right now.
And you've got the artificial intelligence.
You have a blue-collar boom that is really waiting to happen.
And so, kind of final question, Senator, are you bullish that this is all going to work out?
I am.
And you've got to remember, the reconciliation thing, it's a big thing.
The Big Beautiful Bill is a big thing, but it's one piece to all of this too, right?
We have rescissions packages to codify the Doge reforms.
That'll be important.
We have the normal appropriations process, which is for discretionary spending, the reconciliations for the mandatory spending.
And then you also have what I think President Trump's about to do, which is to finally rebalance trade so we stop getting ripped off around the world.
you talked about that demand that's out there.
I think once we get I think you're going to see a lot of economic growth from that, too.
So you put all of those things together, and if we actually get all that stuff done this year, which I'm confident that we will, you're going to see, again, I think this golden age of America that President Trump's talked about and enough runway for that to happen before 2028.