Simone Biles is safely retired from competitive gymnastics, so now she is pulling up the ladder behind her to push deranged left-wing politics. Riley Gaines discusses Biles's nasty social media attack and what it says about America's most famous quitter. Plus, Tom Homan reports from the scene in Los Angeles with a message that the administration won't be cowed by rioters in the streets or threats from the Mexican president. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com! Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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So the other big story from the weekend.
I was so tempted to do it, and I resisted the temptation because I saw this thing going viral.
I said, it's Shabbat.
I said, I don't want to get into a fight going into Shabbat, so I turned off my phone.
When I turned back my phone, it was an even bigger story, so I decided to weigh in.
Which is, choke artist Simone Biles decided to attack Riley Gaines for defending female sports, specifically this boy who won.
This team in part one, thanks to a boy in a softball championship.
And now there's been a back and forth with Riley Gaines and Simone Biles.
And I'll read these tweets here.
First of all, Riley, great to see you.
Welcome to the program.
Well, thank you, Charlie.
Always good to be on with you.
Thank you.
And so you're making trouble again right in the middle of all the controversy.
So, Riley, why don't you walk us through what was the story that got Simone Biles, who's obviously a basket case, So fired up to call you a sick person, Riley.
Well, let's just first mention what has happened over the past week or so.
In five blue states, Minnesota, You had boys or teams with a boy leading the team, stealing state championships, stealing podium spots, stealing state qualifying spots, again, in five states.
The story specifically, as you mentioned, was the story out of Minnesota, Tim Waltz's Minnesota, where an over-six-foot-tall boy who was transitioned at a very, very young age prior to kindergarten was allowed to play on a women's team that ultimately would go on to Unbelievable
is an accurate word, and that's basically what I tweeted.
This is crazy.
You can't say this isn't happening anymore.
It's happening all the time.
Minnesota was the fifth of those five states for this to happen in the past few years.
That's what I tweeted, to which that is when Simone Biles decided to weigh in and call me for tweeting this truly disgusting and a bully and a sore loser, which is honestly, the personal attacks, that doesn't even bother me at all.
Like, I'm so secure with myself, I think, for a couple reasons.
Number one, because I know I'm on the right side of history.
It's easy to stand tall when you are certain of something, and I'm certain of that.
And to then go on, which I'm sure we will touch on, she went on to tweet, bully someone your own size, which would ironically be a man.
This was hilarious to me for two reasons.
Number one, because she was acknowledging the fact that men and women are physically, biologically, categorically different from one another.
And number two...
Like, I'm 130, 135 pounds, 5 '5".
I mean, relatively muscular, like any athlete.
I would imagine if anyone would understand that it would be Simone Biles.
But clearly, that was not the case.
So, yeah, I want to read some of these tweets here.
So this is Simone Biles kind of going out of nowhere attacking Riley.
This came out of nowhere.
But again, can we show the softball picture up again, please?
This is the board.
This is still happening in Minnesota.
It's happening all across the country.
So not many girls, and by the way, of course, it's just amazing how this is Marissa Rothberger, who's a boy, who's a man, and all the parents go along with it.
Like, oh yeah, totally normal, even though they won the state championship.
So then Riley calls it out, which is, Riley does this all the time, and then Simone Biles, who's a real sick puppy, she says, quote, you're truly sick all of this campaigning because you lost a race.
Straight up sore loser.
You should be uplifting the trans community.
No, we shouldn't.
And perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive or creating a new avenue where trans feel safe in sports.
No, we shouldn't.
Maybe a transgender category in all sports.
Bad idea.
But instead, you bully them.
One thing's for sure is no one in sports is safe with you around.
Now, I responded and said, Remember famously, Simone Miles embarrassed the entire world and the country when she selfishly decided to not compete with her teammates in the Tokyo Olympics?
We remember around here.
I called Simone Miles out at the time, and I got a lot of heat because I saw that there was something wrong up there.
But help me understand this, though.
Why is it that she is a top female athlete?
Who's won 11 gold medals or whatever.
She just feels so compelled to make sure that men can steal trophies and medals from women.
Well, it's important to mention, number one, that she's done competing, which this is like a classic Megan Rapinoe move.
It's the definition of pulling up the ladder behind you.
She doesn't have to worry anymore about a man taking her spot on the Olympic team, taking her gold medal, so therefore it's easy for her to come out and say, to appear to be virtuous and kind and inclusive and compassionate and whatever other word they want to use that has been totally misconstrued over the past few years, it's easy for her to do this now.
She's done competing.
Not to mention, none of her sponsors have had a problem with her saying this.
So she thought she was taking the approach that would be looked kindly upon.
But that is not at all what has happened, Charlie.
She has received, I mean, it's been what?
Over 48 hours at this point.
She has received on every social platform.
You look at her comments on Instagram.
You look at her comments on X. Comments under any article that's being posted about it.
Even on TikTok.
My whole For You page are people who are coming out.
Even people who are Democrats who are saying, wait a minute, Simone.
Your whole thing.
You've been a part of many body positivity campaigns and now you're body shaming another woman for what?
Being muscular?
This was not the response at all.
I believe that she thought she was going to get.
But reminder, we're not living in 2020 anymore.
We are living in 2025 where it is widely accepted amongst the general public, not amongst the media, not amongst the elites, not amongst elected representation, but it is widely accepted amongst the public that men cannot become women.
Women cannot become men.
There are two sexes.
You can't change your sex.
Each sex is deserving of equal opportunity, of privacy, and of safety.
But Simone Biles clearly sits from her.
And then the other part and the component of this that I want you to reiterate, which is very important, and we just confirmed our show did, nothing has changed at Deerfield High School.
Boy is still changing in the girls' locker room at Alan Shepard Junior High School, who then he masturbates in front of the girls as well while in the locker room.
Real story.
So, and this is happening all across the country.
Riley, remind the audience, you had to...
Simone Biles, is she a pervert or something?
Well, I tried to make this point to Simone because, honestly, she sat in front of Congress in the same seat that I have many, many times.
And if you listen to her message, it sounds very similar to mine, even how emotional she gets.
the first time I testified before Congress, I was in tears recounting this story.
Not because, again...
female hundreds and hundreds of female gymnasts were subjected to horrific sexual abuse by the hands of one predatory man that predatory man being larry nasser who was in prison and to again make myself very clear i hope larry nasser spends every waking situation
But again, I make that correlation because, as you said, young, vulnerable girls, in my scenario, I mean, it was 18-, 19-, 20-year-old girls, but as you just said, I mean, girls even much younger than that, middle schoolers, high schoolers, are being subjected to undressing next to men, showering next to men.
And that was what we faced where we're in the shower.
Like if you go into a locker room, There's stalls to use the restroom, but you don't change into your bathing suit into those stalls.
You don't shower in those stalls.
It's all open.
We were subjected to undressing next to a fully grown, fully intact, six-foot-four man who also was fully undressed, showering next to us and watching us shower.
That's where that connection came from.
I received a lot of flack too from people saying that I was this awful person for bringing up Simone Biles' abuser.
What she's advocating for is for more young girls to continue to be abused at the hands of a totally broken system.
Yeah, that is failing young girls.
We have our Young Women's Leadership Summit coming up this weekend.
Riley will be there.
By the way, I got my facts wrong.
The masturbating boy was at Kenosha, not at Deerfield.
There's so many of these, it's hard to know which one is which.
So, just don't want to get sued.
But yes.
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So, Riley, I'm going to ask you to speculate here, and I know I danced around this earlier, but...
So, Simone Biles, she wins 11 gold medals.
She had an opportunity to leave her career with grace.
She's obliterated her career.
She will now be known as a mockery.
Because this is a 90-10 issue.
Nobody wants men in female sports.
And now she is a zealot for men in locker rooms.
She's a zealot for men in sports.
It's a disappointment because I, like many others, have cheered her on in the past because I love Team America.
It shouldn't be an ideological space.
But what is the calculus here?
Is she really that much of a liberal?
Is she a leftist?
She didn't have to do this.
She could have stayed quiet.
What do you think drove her to do this?
What in your experience over the last couple of years would drive someone who had a very high stock?
She had a comeback story.
She choked in Tokyo.
She came back and did good in Paris.
You know, all great.
But now as she kind of ups the ladder, she decides to go in on an issue where she never competed against men.
She's never – she's always been in female-only categories.
I think unless there is some unisex thing, which I'm unfamiliar with how it works in gymnastics, so I'll put a caveat on it.
But why is she doing this?
My little sister is an elite-level gymnast.
She really looked up to Simone prior to this.
It was actually really sad.
I saw my little sister.
She's 16. She's a sophomore in high school.
She will go on to do incredible things in her collegiate career.
We worked out together Saturday morning prior to her going to her actual gymnastics practice, and she showed up to gym.
This happened on Friday evening, the whole Twitter feud.
And she shows up to the gym, and she says, Riley, almost in tears, she's like, I'm in such a dilemma.
I love you so much.
I admire you so much.
I look up to you.
And I've looked up to Simone for so long because, I mean, I thought you guys were on the same team, but clearly you're not.
And I know who I'm choosing if I have to pick one role model here and it's not Simone.
Anyways, gymnastics.
Men's and women's gymnastics is almost an entirely different sport.
You have pommel horse and rings in men's gymnastics.
You don't have those in women's.
You have the beam and they both compete in floor.
They both compete in vault.
Remotely the same skill sets are being competed by the two, okay?
Now why, right?
Why did Simone do this?
I've had a couple people reach out to me from Team USA following this interaction we had on X. Some on the men's and women's gymnastics team, some of her teammates, but also, I mean, from various different sports.
And they've told me that Simone has a Netflix docuseries coming out.
And this was her attempt to get back into the spotlight prior to this Netflix docuseries airing to the public.
I can't, for the life of me, believe that she actually believes that men and women are comparable physiologically, physically.
I just don't believe she actually thinks that.
Because, again, she is an elite-level athlete.
She understands that they're not at least, I would imagine that she does.
It's just a matter of What she's advocating for here is exclusion, and it's excluding women from the women's category.
So, Riley, let's just kind of go through this again.
Just repeat for the audience.
Men are still winning championships in California, Washington, Oregon, Minnesota.
Where else?
And then close it with a pitch to attend the Young Women's Leadership Summit, please.
This is a state that turned entirely red all the way for Trump back in November, but even still, the courts have held up a certain scenario where a little boy is still able to compete with the girls in track and field.
It's happening all over the country.
It's happening all over the globe.
So the idea, if you hear someone, whether it's a person who calls themselves a Democrat, person who calls themselves a feminist, an elected politician, Someone in elected office who says this isn't really happening, call them on it because it is happening everywhere, all the time, every single sport, okay?
You can check it out at hecheated.org.
That's where we've been tracking this stuff.
It's remarkable how much this is happening.
YWLS, I am so excited.
This is my favorite conference of the entire year.
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But I have a very exciting announcement to share with everyone at YWLS.
I think it's very fitting to the theme.
And I think it will make some of Simone Biles' comments that she made towards me even more despicable.
Charlie?
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And Riley, you deserve such credit.
Unlike Simone, unlike Simone, you never quit when it got hard.
You have always stood for what is right.
You have not pandered to the forces of the world.
And so God bless you for that.
And history will remember you much greater than Simone Biles.
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Okay, joining us now is Tom Homan, border czar for President Donald Trump.
Tom, great to see you.
Thanks for taking the time.
So, Tom, separate fact from fiction.
What is going on in the ground in L.A. and what transpired this last weekend?
Well, you know, the riots, you know, of course, you know, they call them protesters.
But, you know, these people that are burning cars, attacking our officers, throwing Molotov cocktails, they're criminals.
And what they're not talking about is why ICE was here in the first place.
They started protesting up an operation on Friday, came here to lead that operation.
It's a criminal operation.
We are serving search warrants at a business that is part of a bigger overall criminal conspiracy investigation dealing with money laundering, tax evasion, and customs fraud.
One company failed to claim over $86 million in imported goods and failed to pay like $17 million in tariffs.
And it's a part of overall criminal conspiracy involving many companies where investigators think some of this money is being funneled down to Mexico and Colombia to fund the cartels and their activities.
So we went and served a warrant.
We arrested about 40 people at that place.
And then we had some other operations in a nearby city.
But what they're not telling you is we arrested a lot of public safety threats.
In that city, we arrested Vietnamese National.
We went to a graduation party and got kicked out and got an assault rifle and a shotgun, came back and killed two young teenagers at that party.
We arrested a sexual predator, arrested somebody that And just imagine how terrible that person is.
We arrested people that are convicted of armed robbery, gang members.
We made L.A. much safer in this two-day operation.
But the community, they're calling this an immigration raid, and they simply don't want immigration laws enforced.
So we're going to keep doing our job.
I've said it a hundred times.
You can protest all you want.
You can make threats all you want.
We're going to enforce the law.
And we're going to take bad people off the street, and we're going to continue doing that.
We're doing it yesterday, we're doing it today, and we're going to do it tomorrow.
Yeah, so Tom, are you now intensifying the ICE raids?
Do any of these riots, or does any of this bedlam make you less likely to continue and move forward to push the deportation of alien criminals in our country?
We're adding resources.
They're getting exactly what they don't want.
We're adding resources, and we're going to step up enforcement.
We're going to send a clear message.
We're going to enforce the laws of this country.
We are prioritizing public safety threats and national security threats first.
But if you're in the country legally, you're not off the table.
So a sanctuary city like this, we go arrest a bad guy.
We find a bad guy.
They don't give us access to the jail, so we've got to go to the community and find a bad guy.
Many times you're with others who are in the country legally, but not a criminal target.
Well, they're going to.
So sanctuary city is going to get exactly what they don't want.
More officers in the neighborhoods and more collateral arrests.
We're also going to increase worksite enforcement operations.
We can't get the bad guy in the jail.
We'll get him in the neighborhood.
We can't get him in the neighborhood.
We'll get him at worksite.
We're stepping up.
So we're adding more resources to L.A. as we speak.
So let me ask you now.
There's a little back and forth happening between Gavin Newsom.
He's saying, arrest me, Tom.
Arrest me, Tom.
I want to play this piece of tape here and get your response to Governor Gavin Newsom, who is asking you just to get it over it and arrest him.
Play cut 261.
Get your hands off these poor.
People are just trying to live their lives, man.
Trying to live their lives, paying their taxes.
Been here 10 years.
The fear.
The horror.
The hell is this guy?
Come after me.
Arrest me.
Let's just get it over with.
Tough guy.
You know, I don't.
I care about this community.
The hell are they doing?
These guys need to grow up.
They need to stop.
And we need to push back.
And I'm sorry to be so clear, but that kind of...
So, Tom, arrest me.
Let's go.
Tough guys asking you to arrest him.
Tom Homan.
Oh, a joke.
Hey, look, bottom line is it's in taxes.
No, they don't get paid on the table.
They're not paying tax.
Matter of fact, they're bankrupting this country through social services, our schools, our hospitals, millions of illegal aliens getting welfare checks.
Like bottom line is, They've been ordered removed.
We're looking for people with final orders.
I mean, for God's sake, they had due process.
They entered country legally, which is a crime.
They demanded due process.
They got it.
And a federal judge orders them removed.
We're going to execute those orders.
Because if we don't, we send a message to the whole world, keep them entered country legally.
Don't worry about it.
Get ordered removed by a federal judge after a taxpayer spent a lot of money in this process.
But don't worry about it.
Just go hide out.
No, the message we're sending, there are consequences for entering this country illegally.
There are absolute consequences when you enter this country illegally, then commit a crime against U.S. citizens.
We're going to keep what we're doing.
As far as the governor Newsom, he's responding to a media interview I did where the reporter asked me.
You know, I told these protesters, they can protest all they want.
They got their first amendment rights, and when they cross the line, when they impede law enforcement, that's a felony.
When they normally harbor and conceal illegal aliens, that's a felony.
They put hands on an officer, that's a felony.
The reporter asked me, would that go for politicians like Mayor Bass and Governor Newsom?
If they cross the line, absolutely.
They're not above the law either.
So that was the comment I made, and I stick with that comment.
If they violate the law, we'll turn it over to AG.
She's already prosecuting several judges.
She was prosecuting a member of Congress.
They're not above the law either.
For four years, they were tracking President Trump saying he's not above the law.
Either are they.
Cross the line to deal with the consequences.
So right now, what is the temperature on the ground in L.A.?
Have these riots largely calmed down?
What is the current status?
And I have another follow-up question right after that.
Right now, it's calmer than it was yesterday.
There's a couple people's protests going on right now.
They tend to wait for the night to do this stuff and to cover darkness.
But right now, things are a lot better than they were last night.
We've got National Guard on the ground now.
We've got a lot more resources on the ground now.
We've got a lot of Border Patrol we brought up here and their special operations groups that deal with protests and deal with crowd control.
So we've increased manpower, increased munitions like tear gas and things.
They use non-deadly force type equipment.
So look, if they turn it on tonight, we're certainly ready for it.
I want to make a clear of the National Guard set by President Trump.
It's a great move by President Trump.
They're here to protect property, they're here to protect our officers, and they're here to protect the general public.
Because the Democrat leadership in California has failed.
For the first two days, Governor Newsom went together and yelled and screamed about these National Guard.
For two days, he sat there while that city burned.
President Trump's taking action so we don't happen what happened in 2020, what happened in Minnesota, what happened in Portland.
President Trump's not going to stand for it.
If they don't want to protect the community, we will.
This is 252.
I want you to respond to the president of Mexico, Plague Cut 252.
If needed, we will definitely mobilize because we absolutely cannot accept any new taxes on remittances sent by our hardworking folks in the U.S. to their families back home in Mexico.
She is saying that.
That's a foreign leader threatening our country, Tom Homan.
Bring it.
Game on.
I mean, we're not going to let Mexico tell us what to do.
We're a sovereign nation.
President Trump was elected by the American people to come in and secure the border and run a deportation operation and remove public safety threats and national security threats.
That's exactly what we're doing.
Under President Trump, we have the most secure border in the history of this nation.
He did that in seven weeks, which Joe Biden couldn't do in four years.
We are arresting more illegal aliens than Biden ever thought of, and we will keep doing it.
She's not going to make a decision in the United States.
We've got a strong president.
I stand with President Trump.
He's making this country safe again.
I don't care what the president of Mexico said.
We're going to do what we need to do to secure our border and protect our sovereignty.
Tom, two minutes remaining.
What will the big, beautiful bill mean for ICE and for Border Patrol to be able to get more of these bandits and these thugs out of our country?
Great question.
Congress needs to step up and get this bill done.
We had the House and Senate in the first Trump administration.
They failed us.
Now we've got the House and Senate again.
This bill is so important to border security.
Yeah, the border is secure right now, but we need to finish the job.
We need to finish building that wall.
We need technology for that wall.
We need technology in a port of interest to make these positives that we've got, make them permanent.
And certainly a lot of that money goes to ICE.
We've got over 20 million illegal immigrants in this country.
We've got less than 5,000 deportation officers.
We are overwhelmed.
We need to go find these public safety threats and national security threats to remove them.
We need money to do that.
We need more officers, need more beds, need more planes.
Remember, we got over two million known Godwes.
Two million people have paid more to get away.
How many of them came here carrying fentanyl?
How many of them were sex trafficking in women's children?
How many of them come from a country sponsoring terrorism?
We need that money to make this country safe again.
So I'm begging Congress, get this done.
Let's keep that secure border permanent.
This is the greatest invasion reversal in history because this was the greatest invasion of any country in history, wartime or peacetime.
And, Tom, what you are doing every single day is to remove them.
Final question, Tom.
I know you've got a dash.
What is the status of these long-due process complaints?
How do we remove illegals?
Quicker from the country.
The kind of multi-year due process is bothering our audience.
What is the update?
Well, I'd like the administrative staff to the Supreme Court to step in.
I mean, President Trump, we're using every tool in the toolbox to remove people as quickly as possible.
And you've got some district court judge, emphasizing where district court judge, are putting in nationwide injunctions that we can't do certain things.
We're following the law.
We're not making this up.
The Alien Enemies Act was an act established and enacted by Congress.
We're not making this up.
And we're using expedited removal.
We're using administrative removals.
But we got judges that don't want us to remove these people.
We got judges demanding that we return terrorists, designated terrorists to this country.
So, you know, here's one thing we're going to do.
They're not going to walk the streets.
If they're going to not let us use the Alien Enemies Act, then we'll detain them and move them to Title VIII.
We're removed through expedited removal or another process.
One option that isn't on the table, they will not walk the streets of this country.
So we need to have a lot more beds because we need to detain them while these court cases work out.
President Trump is fighting as hard as he can, but the Supreme Court needs to step up and let the President enforce the law that Congress enacted.
They've been legal for decades.
Why all of a sudden they're illegal?
They're not.
These are radical judges making decisions.
Supreme Court needs to step up and do their job quickly so we can get this work done.
Your national hero, Tom Holman, thank you so much for your time.
Talk to you soon.
God bless you.
God bless you.
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I'm getting so many messages from people, non-political people.
The Mexican nationalists, they have awakened a beast.
This is just the beginning, but we're in June of the first year.
I mean, this is just, this is early.
This was a major strategic error.
And I'm not saying that it was planned.
I mean, it could very well be organic.
I don't think that there's necessarily, it was a puppeteer behind every single one of these things.
Maybe there's funding, maybe there isn't.
And look, we love people that come here legally and they assimilate.
We love mass assimilation.
You look at that, it's just, it's hard to even comprehend.
But if you're waving Mexican flags over the destruction here, you're not assimilating.
We need a full immigration moratorium, period.
Net zero.
Do you know that we had basically no immigration, very little to any immigration, from 1920 to like 1965?
And we were just fine.
We became a world superpower.
And no, immigrants did not build America.
Settlers built America and the children of settlers.
And at times, immigrants have helped us.
At times, immigration should be a benefit to your country.
You don't have to have immigration to your nation.
You don't have to open your borders.
And then we have a whole other layer to this, which is you don't have to allow yourself to be invaded.
Just look at Europe.
No cultural cohesion.
A husk of its former self.
We are in a far better place than Europe is.
Far better.
The way we do immigration is so backwards.
We invite the poorest, least skilled, most dependent, Where we should have a very, very small number of super geniuses.
Or people with a ton of money that love America.
Instead, they're waving Mexican flags in the midst of arson.
Not any one thing if it was just five or six people.
There were hundreds of thousands of people that were coming out in the streets.
While they're burning cop cars.
Maybe tens of thousands, but if you count all the different immigration protests, hundreds of thousands.
They're burning our cop cars.
And I want you to stare at that image.
I want it to be tattooed in your memory.
That right there is why Trump won.
I want you to think about something.
We never would have been able to prove that it was here if Kamala Harris won.
They never would have done this because they would get everything they want.
There'd be no deportations.
They'd be getting welfare.
They'd be going to our social services.
But it's Donald Trump.
It's Donald Trump that flushed this out.
He's really good at that.
Oh my goodness.
I had an opportunity to speak to him last night for nearly 10 minutes on the phone.
He's in great spirits.
He's focused like a laser.
He's ending wars.
The stuff on the tariffs is phenomenal.
The border, he's got his eyes on LA like you wouldn't believe.
If 10 million Americans invaded Mexico City and started waving U.S. flags, nobody at the New York Times would call it a potent protest symbol.
They'd call it what it is, a show of force by an army of invaders.
And isn't it bizarre?
That the neoliberals in D.C. want to go invade foreign lands in the Middle East, but they're perfectly okay when our lands get invaded.
It's psychologically very, very weird.
Everybody, the beast is being awakened.
These images are so bad for the Democrats.
And the deportations are only going to increase.
More ICE agents.
More knocks on doors.
We are a sovereign nation.
You see, The ruling class elites, with their luxury beliefs, they've been taught to only admire foreign cultures, not our own, not anymore.
We are the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.
We have a superior culture, and we're unafraid to fight for it.