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Feb. 25, 2025 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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The Intel Agencies vs. America
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Okay, everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Citizen Kane joins the show as we break down the latest news.
Anna Paulina Luna as well as we talk about the fight happening in the intel agencies.
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Joining us is one of Florida's own right out of the gate.
Ana Paulina Luna, congresswoman from Florida.
Ana, great to have you on the program.
There is a big feud happening right now with the intel agencies.
What is going on here?
Walk our audience through it.
Charlie, this has been wild to see unfold in real time.
So I was actually responding to a tweet that you'd posted, but to have CNN reporting that there are actual agents at the CIA that would even consider...
Selling our classified information because they don't like President Trump, they don't like Republicans in the White House to our foreign adversaries.
I genuinely believe this, that that is treason, that they will be held accountable.
So my message to them is if you do that, you will have the full might and force of the law against you and you will be held accountable, whether that's going to prison or I would argue even harsher penalties, Charlie.
But also to remember, less than a week ago or about a week ago, A week ago, I was announced as taking over the task force to be the action arm for President Trump and aid in the declassification efforts of the JFK, Martin Luther King, and RFK files, and then also pushing for declassification on other things covering Epstein to 9-11 to COVID-19, etc.
What I will tell you, Charlie, is...
After that task force was announced, it seemed like there was a mass effort to really push back against the task force even though we don't hold declassification authority to try to undermine our efforts in executing President Trump's agenda.
And then we find out 24 hours after the task force is announced that the FBI finds thousands of pages of documents related to that declassification executive order.
And then we find out last night that an FBI whistleblower, Garrett O'Boyle, comes forward and says that he has knowledge that there are people at the FBI who, prior to Kash Patel's nomination and confirmation, that they were deleting and destroying evidence related to the documents that we were requesting.
So there's absolutely an intelligence war happening.
And what I can tell you, Charlie, is had President Trump not gotten elected, I do believe that we would have lost this country.
I think that is exactly right.
And so supposedly our intel agencies are very, very concerned with leaks, information security, and so on.
But in reality, of course, they love leaks.
And so yesterday, CNN had a very long article claiming that if Trump cuts the budget of the CIA, it would expose the nation's secrets because the CIA employees will go rogue and sell our secrets to foreign powers.
In other words, our intel community, our hostage takers, give us money we want or else.
These are not patriots, Anna Paulina.
No, they're definitely not.
And I can tell you, Charlie, that when I saw that as a veteran, as someone that was subject to the UCM day where treason is death.
I take that very seriously, and I actually have my team filing, as we speak, legislation to increase the mandatory minimum for leaking secrets to foreign adversaries from the intelligence agency as a death penalty.
These are times that we cannot afford operatives like this being selfish and taking their own political agenda at the expense of the American people.
When you leak classified information like that, you can potentially cause wars.
There's big implications to that.
This is not just...
You know, I don't like the president.
I'm going to potentially set him up or leak information.
That can be deadly.
It can be lethal.
And what I can also tell you, Charlie, is when I first got to Washington, I was actually told by other well-known, respected conservative members that, you know, outlets like The Washington Post, CNN, Politico, that they were mouthpieces for the intelligence agencies.
Now we find that USAID was funding some of these outlets.
That was also taxpayer funds that were largely unvetted, unchecked.
And now we're also finding that they are basically preparing people potentially for these leaks.
And so I have faith in the new directors of these intelligence agencies, but it doesn't mean that within their own agencies they're not facing deep, deep resistance from people that are simply un-American.
And so this does need to be held, taken seriously, and also these people do need to be held accountable.
I have faith that Cash and also our new secretary will be flushing this out.
But remember, if you're interfering also with a congressional investigation, which is what they're actively doing, Those are contempt of Congress proceedings.
And so I actually also spoke with the Oversight Task Force, and they are talking to Chairman Comer about marking up contempt of Congress charges once we figure out who these individuals are.
So whether it's from us, the Department of Justice, or from within the agencies, they are definitely in for a world of pain.
So people want to know about the Epstein client list.
Do you think we're going to get the goods and information of who visited Epstein's Island and who was on the plane?
I initially thought we would because I had faith that Cash would give us whatever documents that he had.
Now we're finding out for that whistleblower, and I'm actually talking to the whistleblower in about 10 minutes here directly to figure out if we can get leads on who those names are.
Now we're finding out that potentially there was destruction of evidence, but as you saw over the weekend...
Pam Bondi, our attorney general, she actually said that she was reviewing documents and that they were on her desk.
And so we've been largely pushing for the declassification of these documents.
We haven't even seen them, Charlie.
But that information, as well as the other information like JFK, RFK, that belongs to the American people.
That should not be siloed any longer.
It's been years.
And specifically with Jeffrey Epstein, I mean...
Look, this goes back into the whole conversation of, do you think Jeffrey Epstein killed himself?
I don't think he did.
That's pretty wild.
If you look at the people that he was involved with and the prison that he was in, that that could have happened.
And so, you know, I think that there's a lot of powers at play here.
Obviously, we did not anticipate that these people would be doing it so out in the open, but apparently they're destroying evidence.
And so this is a big this is a big deal.
I think that the American people need to understand the gravity of what this means and also understand that within our own agencies, our trusted agencies that are supposed to be there to defend and protect us, that they're actively fighting against what President Trump wants for this country and transparency for the American people.
So take note of who is trying to undermine.
I hope everyone understands there is a rogue government right now that's operating.
That there is a shadow government that has defined the will of the people and they are operating in direct defiance.
It is a shadow government.
We're going to talk about this throughout the hour.
But there is a rogue, out of control federal bureaucracy that thinks that they get to trouble in the media.
We have to start perp walking and arresting them.
And I have every faith and confidence in Kash Patel and Pam Bondi.
We need federal workers arrested if they're destroying evidence.
We need federal workers arrested if they're leaking information.
Anna Paulina.
If they're leaking information, if they are undermining investigations, they are not friends of the American people, in my opinion.
If you are selling information to a foreign adversary, you are an enemy of the state.
And so we need to keep the pressure on.
When we find these instances, when we see them, these federal workers need to go to jail for the rest of their life.
If it is true, and these federal workers are destroying evidence regarding pending investigations and things that we, the American people, have a right to see, Who do they actually think they work for?
They think they're in charge.
They're in the technocratic class, in the permanent oligarchy of the federal bureaucracy.
Final thoughts, Congresswoman Ana Polina Luna.
Look, we have a big task cut out for us.
This task force, we were, again, set up to be an action arm of the president to apply pressure and make sure that these documents were released to the American people.
It's now looking like this is also turning into a criminal investigation because we're finding out that potentially our evidence has been destroyed.
And so we need the American people to, A, make sure that they are sharing the correct information, but also keep the pressure on, okay?
OK, because we can only do so much here in Washington, but we are we are a minority compared to what we are up against, especially within the intelligence communities.
We need your help.
Keep the pressure on.
And honestly, pray for us, because this is this is a hard job.
But with, you know, God, God's good grace, we can get through it.
But it's definitely been interesting to see the night fight take place in real time.
Keep up the great fight, Ana, and we have your back.
Thank you.
There is an out-of-control rogue federal bureaucracy that is...
Defying the will of the people.
It's defying you, the voters.
It is an existential threat to the United States constitutional order.
We must bring them to a heel.
And that means we need thousands of federal workers in handcuffs if that's what they are doing.
Dan Bongino and Kash Patel are going to spend time rooting out what's happening within our government.
If there are thousands of people that are leaking information, we need a few examples.
Big ones.
And by the way, this looks as if this is a widespread cancer within our government.
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We are about to see a major political referendum.
The midterms could be about this.
We're so far out from the midterms, I don't even want to hypothesize this yet.
But it could be where we're going.
It could be we the people versus the shadow government.
We have been warning that we are in the middle of a cold civil war.
And that cold civil war almost went hot on July 13th in Butler, Pennsylvania.
God forbid that would happen.
A color revolution.
And finally, we are at the gates to reassert control.
To reassume control.
To bring us back to our birth certificate.
We are going back to first principles.
How many branches?
There are three.
Who is in charge of Article 2?
The President of the United States.
Elon Musk sent out that email last weekend.
And this is a perfect example of what we're dealing with.
This is a young lady who could best be described as a brat.
She's a spoiled brat who complains that she was intimidated by Elon Musk for asking the question, what did you do and what did you get done this week?
Five things that you got done.
She has no time to answer the email, but plenty of time to go on CNN. These people feel entitled to your taxpayer money.
You're about to go pay taxes on April 15th.
Many of you might have to sell stock.
Some of you guys are going to have to do tax deferrals to get all squared up with the Internal Revenue Service.
And when you write that check to the IRS, which might mean less family vacations, Might mean you can't go out to eat as much.
When you write that check and you work your tail off, you are sending that money to people like her.
This entitled federal worker who goes on television saying that she is so intimidated that someone would ask her what she does.
This is a perfect example of what college campuses create.
The type of soft, lazy mentality.
That has infected our institutions and the nerve that this young woman has.
I guarantee you she's a Harry Potter fan.
I could just see it from a mile away.
I'm 10 out of 10 in predicting this, by the way.
Here is Cut98, the blogger on Pottermore.
Play Cut98.
First, just tell us about this email and what it was like receiving it and what you all have talked about after getting it.
Sure.
I got this email Saturday afternoon about 3 p.m., and I felt absolutely infuriated getting this email with a demand within 48 hours to provide a response on what I did within the last week or face termination.
This is clearly an attempt from Elon Musk to harass and bully and intimidate the federal workforce.
Which is part of his broader plan to gut the federal workforce and privatize public sector services to ensure that corporations like his own can get more profit.
And that makes me really angry.
My co-workers as well.
All right, Hermoine, calm down.
That is a perfect example of a coddled, pampered, and indulged federal worker.
Do your job.
Or better yet, you're fired.
Why do you exist?
What do you do?
You're angry?
I'm sorry, you don't get to call the shots here.
We don't have the divine right of spoiled federal workers.
I must have missed that in the U.S. Constitution.
The sovereign is in the people.
We are in charge.
And we give our sovereignty through elections to a president.
The vesting cause says that all the power will be vested in a president.
And now you have PTSD because you got an email?
These people would not last 45 seconds in a private sector job or a service job.
They might last at Salesforce, because the Salesforce and these big companies acted the government.
But do you know where that attitude wouldn't be tolerated?
With the muscular class.
And that is why there has been an uprising of the muscular class against people like Hermione Granger here.
The people that...
Deliver your meals, the people that drive your trucks, the people that fix the plumbing in your home, the people that work as carpenters, that shower before work and after work.
And she's so smug.
You know, if you go ask a carpenter, what'd you do this week?
He'd be like, I fixed this, and I did that, and I did this, and I did that.
And she is a perfect example of the millions of people that, as I said yesterday, and it went viral, have become parasites on the American taxpayer.
When you guys work your tail off to write those checks to the IRS, money that they are not entitled to most of the time, you go send that money to these people that then have time to go on CNN and say, well, I was outraged.
No, no, the American people are outraged, and we're not going to subsidize anymore.
We need mass firings.
We need hundreds of thousands of these people to be terminated.
Go work at your local Dunkin' Donuts.
Go work at your local McDonald's.
Justify your job there.
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Citizen Kane from citizenfreepress.com.
Now, Mr. Kane, I don't know if you know this or not, but you were highlighted in a segment that John Heilman did on his podcast, and he said this guy Kane was on the Charlie Kirk show.
So I don't know if you know that or not, but I got to send you a link to that.
But welcome, my friend.
Yeah, no, I did not know that.
Heilman.
I wonder why Heilman caught a glimpse.
Hey!
You know, so I want to see Blake's scores on those Hillsdale tests, by the way.
They're all 100. It's crazy, Kane.
So most Fridays we'll do this, where we do Ask Me Anything, and during the breaks we keep streaming, and it's not on radio, but it's on podcasting, and I ask Blake these questions.
And it's really next-level stuff.
I'm talking about highly specified Roman history.
I think, yeah, I'd never even heard of him until I listened to your intro.
And somehow I'm not surprised that Blake has that, you know, that knowledge sitting there deep in the cerebellum.
You know, Charlie, as I was waiting to come on, I was writing my five bullet points to Doge.
I figure, what the heck?
I'm a federal worker.
What did you do this last week?
Well, number one was I'm helping to destroy the global Marxist alliance.
Number two, I cured 115 people of the woke mind virus.
Number three, I made fun of Adam Schiff.
And that's as far as I got.
But I'm loving all the hysteria over this list.
It's insane.
I put up a clip from Scott Jennings last night as he was making fun of Abby.
I love it.
Cain, how do you think Doge is resonating with the grassroots?
How is it working with everyday people?
Walk us through it.
This is the most exciting, momentous reclamation of our government.
Yeah, Charlie, I've been, as I sort of touched on at the end of the last interview, I didn't get interested in politics until I was 21 working at CNN when the overnight editor started talking to me about the national debt, right?
So from that point, I've been, that's what brought me to politics.
I was a sports guy.
That's what brought me to politics.
And I actually thought I was going to do CNN sports.
But that's a completely different story.
So the national debt and this whole idea of waste and fraud and bloated government spending, that means I've been waiting for this stuff for 35 years.
I've been waiting for actual spending cuts.
I remember stuff that, you know, there was something called the Penny Kasich bill.
Penny was a congressman from Minnesota, John Kasich, the congressman from Ohio, and was an attempt at actually shrinking.
The size of government by 1% a year until we reached a balanced budget.
And Andrew can busily sort of, you know, do a Wikipedia on the Penny Kasich amendment.
And it came within one vote of passing, Charlie.
And I remember watching it live on CNN, excuse me, on C-SPAN. It was probably 93, 94-ish.
And it was really, had we gotten...
So anyway, my point is, I've had my hopes raised and shattered.
For 35 years, Charlie.
You know, Simpson Bowles, just in 2015, the Obama attempt.
Yeah, you know, look, for someone like me, I honestly don't care where the spending cuts come from.
Just cut.
There's no way, you know, I have the Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Wonderful attitude is...
Cut more than you think because there's always more fat on the chicken.
Cut more if you have to.
Later, you bring these people back.
That's a little side little tangent.
I'm sure you've noticed how on Drudge and leftist media, they're like, oh, no, look, they fired these people and had to bring a few of them back.
Well, that's how it's supposed to be.
Get rid of them at first.
Then if you see that you really need them, bring them back.
So, you know, kind of trying to wrap this up, the answer.
I'm so excited, Charlie.
I've never seen anything like these cuts.
I'm covering it nonstop.
And I want more.
And we haven't even got started.
You know, Social Security, Defense, Medicare, Medicaid, those are going to be really, really big for cuts.
And Cain, the left is resisting at maximum pressure.
It doesn't seem to be working.
But this is coming forward to a referendum in so many ways that it's going to be the shadow government, which is only a couple million people, against the American people.
Correct.
And I realized that I forgot to answer that part of your original question, which is, how is this playing with the base?
What do people really feel?
Well, obviously, the monster poll from Harvard-Harris that Warren Bannon talked about it a bunch this morning, and it was asked at the Macron-Trump press conference.
There were two or three questions about Doge, but they all got over 70% approval.
As many Democrats, I try to watch alternative media as much as I can.
You know, you can't fight this stuff.
The politicians are trying, but they're not getting any support.
We had that press conference, I don't remember, last week.
The full photo showed that there were just the five senators there and there were no people around them and they were screaming about what was going on at Doge.
So there is no grassroots support not to cut the government.
Like, this is turning on everyone.
I've seen Jon Stewart say positive things.
We've seen the Obama bros who do that podcast.
You know, that they've commented positively.
It's a public relations winner.
I think, look, we're all in it sort of minute to minute.
So we see the negative stories that are written about Doge and we see what Drudge is sort of pushing and we see what's on CNN. But it's honestly, these polls show that that's not making any impact.
That, what, 80, 90% of independents and 100% of Republicans love these cuts.
And so it's hard.
How do you fight against?
You know, how do you win a battle against removing government waste?
You can't win.
So I say we just, you know, ignore the naysayers and continue on.
Well, and Democrats are at an all-time low of just 32% approval.
Kane, we dug the Republican Party out from our dark night of the soul post-January 6th, and we have become the popular party, and they have become a minoritarian, nasty, elitist oligarchy.
Kane, it's a remarkable reversible.
I mean, it's just, it's almost, it makes you speechless, and I'm a talk show host.
I agree 100%, man.
It's only 18 months, too, because we know those Gallup polls.
I posted Gallup, I think they were at 35%.
The lowest in history.
And for all of this to have happened in 18 months, this sort of populist reversal, it dovetails with the expansion of the Republican MAGA working class, right?
From white working class to black to Hispanic to Asian.
This sort of populism is really, really working.
And I think when you add the Trump transparency and the Elon transparency on top of it, that's part of why it's winning independence and gaining more popularity is because he's holding these press conferences.
And he's acting like a boss, but he's answering the questions.
And it's just something we've never seen.
And I think that that has to be the explanation for what you said.
How does the Democrat Party go from 50% approval to 32% approval in 18 months?
It's cultural, it's media, and honestly, I never would have expected it would be this good.
And it shows that there was a pent-up desire.
An unspoken, unpoled desire to reclaim the country.
And they were looking for a vessel to hang on to.
And that vessel very well happened to be Donald Trump and the MAGA movement.
And I think it was this great convergence where on one side you had the MAGA movement that was on fire.
On the other side you had this silent majority of Americans that were sick of the inflation, the open borders, the woke stuff.
And they weren't necessarily Trump's biggest fan, but they said, oh.
Finally a movement that I can attach myself to, and boom, it's set on like fire, and the Democrats underestimated at every turn.
Cain, final thoughts?
Yeah, I mean, I would have said that I underestimated it.
I didn't think it could all come together this smoothly, but I really feel like the special sauce for this, after having gathered this coalition, the special sauce is what's happening now, is these executive orders in the Oval Office, is this extreme transparency.
That's what's really turning on people.
There's a clip at the top of the stack.
I'll say really quick.
Right now, it's Jesse Waters sent his guy to Delaware.
And it was Delaware Street interviews on Joe Biden.
And what was really interesting is how all these people knew about the doge cuts.
They knew about the crazy things that USAID was spending money on.
And just based on appearance, these aren't people you expected to know this.
So it's all coming together.
And I feel, you know...
I'm overjoyed, Charlie.
I really didn't think that I could be this happy in late February.
We must keep the pressure on.
Must keep the pressure on.
That's right.
Cain, you're the best.
Come back soon.
Thanks so much.
Thank you.
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Today is a very heavy day on The Charlie Kirk Show.
We have lost one of our great content creators where so much of our content, our ability to be able to fill Segments is gone.
And it's a very joyless day.
Playcut 76. Shout out to our amazing readers, our audience.
I just love running into y'all in the airport, on these streets, and on social media.
I could not love or appreciate you more.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for holding us down.
Almost five years, we are a toddler, and we out in these streets, in this world, and we are not going to stop.
I mean, that's just a perfect segment for why she got canceled.
All of a sudden she's talking in jive now, talking about being on the streets now that she's gotten canceled on her network show.
Like, okay, got it.
Where's that been the last five years?
Yeah, we out on these streets.
Okay, yeah, great.
Now all of a sudden she's like a person that got canceled because everyone's a racist.
Yeah, she's going to have to file unemployment.
I don't think that those unemployment claims are going to cover your salary.
In the wake of Joy Reid being canceled.
Chris Hayes or Rachel Maddow, I get them confused.
I'm telling you, they could switch and no one would notice.
Has this to say, Playcut 78. I will tell you, it is also unnerving to see that on a network where we've got two, count them, two non-white hosts in primetime, both of our non-white hosts in primetime are losing their shows, as is Katie Fang on the weekend.
And that feels worse than bad, no matter who replaces them.
That feels...
Indefensible.
And I do not defend it.
Well, then why don't you give up your show, Rachel?
Come on.
Be a partner in reparations and distribution and equity.
Why don't you say, I'm giving up my nearly, what does she make, $20 to $30 million a year?
Why doesn't Rachel Maddow give her salary to Joy Reid?
Because that's equity.
White lesbian Rachel Maddow gets to keep on having a show, but...
Joy Reid does not.
That's not fair.
Rachel Maddow calling MSNBC racist for canning the most vile racist to ever have a primetime TV show is really rich.
Let's just kind of go through some of the greatest hits of Joy Reid.
Playcut 94. Only the white Christian men may have the things.
So you own everything that happens to your mixed status families.
And to your wives, sisters, and abuelas.
Joy.
If you are black plus anything else, you are black.
Violent white nationalism that today threatens our national security.
Do you notice there was no jive in that?
You know, when she's reading the teleprompter, she talks straight, as you would say, but oh, when she gets canceled, we out here in the streets.
Play cut 95. We do have a fascist groundswell in parts of this country, mainly among white men, let's be clear.
I mean, you're also a white guy.
Are you saying the we is white folks need more kids?
Like Trump, Hitler was also viewed as a clown, a goon, who could be kept in line after a four-year break to, you know, learn to accurately quote Adolf Hitler.
Oh, it gets better.
Let's play cut 103. There's a thing about both white vigilantism and white tears, particularly male white tears.
Really white tears in general, because that's what carrots are, right?
They carrot out, and then as soon as they get caught, bring waterworks.
White men can get away with that, too.
And it has the same effect.
Oh, we're talking about crying?
Cry more, race lady.
Playcut 75. My show had value.
And that...
I'm sorry.
That what I've been doing have value.
Have value.
And in the end, I try not to cry on TV.
And at the end, it's kind of like you on TV, so I apologize.
Sorry, I haven't seen all these clips.
I'm sorry.
That one's good.
That's a good one.
Trump fumbling over trying to play the Titanic theme.
In all seriousness, we're actually going to miss her.
Who is going to foment the black nationalist rage on MSNBC? I don't know if Jen Psaki could carry that torch.
Al Sharpton?
So Joy, MSNBC is now joyless.
What she's going to do, I don't know.
She will go into oblivion.
It's a mystery why her show was canceled.
But Trump really is making America great again.
We have a border.
We're ending wars.
And Joy Reid is out!
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening.
God bless.
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