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Blake might answer questions from you guys, but more importantly during the breaks, we're going to test his blind knowledge of Hillsdale College Roman history.
People wanted it back, Charlie.
They want it by popular demand, and that is something to witness and see.
It is...
Awfully entertaining and kind of breathtaking.
Okay, Daisy, who do we have first?
Daisy does a great job running the member brigade.
Trey, thank you for being a member.
Where are you from and what is on your mind?
Yeah, how's it going, Charlie?
Good, how are you?
I'm good.
I'm the chapter president for the University of South Carolina.
Oh, yes.
Hi again.
How are you?
I'm good.
I'm doing good.
The chapter's doing great as well.
We're actually looking to get...
At the minimum right now, we're looking at two speakers so far this semester.
I love it.
It could be a third if you come.
I don't know if I'll be there this spring, but you never know when I'll be in Columbia.
Are you feeling the campus culture change, Gen Z becoming more and more right-wing?
Yeah, definitely.
We're getting a lot more.
We're seeing a lot more conservatives.
There's still a couple crowds out there that we're trying to get to come to our meetings, but everything's looking good so far, too.
I got a ticket as well for the basketball game on March 2nd, if you're around South Carolina.
Well, thank you.
I don't know if I will be, but what's on your mind, man?
Thank you for being a Turning Point chapter leader.
Yeah, absolutely.
I wanted to talk about the mass deportations and what...
We could see with the housing market.
So with mass deportations happening around the country, let's just take a second to consider what could happen in the construction industry.
So in 2022, the American Immigration Council reported that there were over 23% of, or over 23% of the construction workforce in Texas was comprised of illegal and undocumented immigrants.
So obviously this varies state by state, but regardless, we're sure to see a massive change because 23%, that's almost a quarter of the entire construction workforce.
So we're going to see a massive change in the construction workforce and the mass deportation with mass deportations on the rise.
So what do you predict the future of the construction market looks like with there going to be a low supply of construction workers?
Will we see service and trade workers maybe learn?
The art of construction and how do you think the housing market will be affected by this?
So a couple things.
First, just some good news on deportations.
37,660 people were deported in the last month.
That's a good number.
So it should be higher, but it's good.
Let me just kind of make sure I'm going to do this times 12. Annualized, that's about 440,000.
We probably need to get to about a million a year before we really start to stem the tide of even what Biden did.
But that's good.
440,000 is not insignificant.
That is definitely worthy of focus.
Long term, I will say, Trey, long term in the housing market and development, we are going to see a mass adoption of robotics replacing human beings for skilled tasks.
That is not imminent.
But Blake, would you say that's five to ten years?
There was a viral video just the other day showing an AI-trained robot sorting groceries on a typical kitchen counter.
And it's going to start with only a handful of places that are going to do it, but it's going to become more and more and more common.
It's going to be similar to how internet was kind of tried in certain places.
It's going to take over the world.
Which actually, honestly, is more of a reason for restrictionist immigration policy.
Exactly.
Why do you have to have so many foreigners coming in to do your jobs if robots are going to do those jobs?
And if we handle it right, it can make our lives better.
It's a choice before us.
Don't make our lives worse.
Make it better.
Just the same way there used to be a million people who had to do washing full-time, and then we invented the washing machine.
Totally.
That was, on balance, a good thing for ordinary people.
I agree.
And I think that the more cynical view of mass...
Thank you.
That's great B-roll.
For the mass adoption of robotics and AI. The cynical view is that, well, what will humans beings do with their time?
I will say first and foremost, if done properly, AI chatbots, what's this one?
Perplexity I have on my computer.
If you know how to use it, it can actually make you better at your craft.
It can make you sharper, make you faster.
It's not even a replacement.
It's an accelerant.
Now, there will be a lot of replacement and displacement, but I would not underestimate human beings' ability to use technology to find better and greater uses and purposes.
And it needs to benefit the species.
Ryan says, look, we used AI for a whole thought crime segment last night for the statues.
Yeah, that was great.
All the statues.
Grok, in particular.
Yeah, it can, you know...
You could use it to make, yeah, like, for example, can AI-generated art hurt low-end artists?
Yes, and I think we should worry about that.
But it could also allow a good artist to create even more art at a much greater scale than before.
You could do a full motion picture movie of an idea you have.
So what it's going to do is it's going to sharpen human beings' ability to judge what is good and not good, a skill that we don't always use.
But there definitely could be some downsides there.
So anyway, as far as the housing market goes, I also think mass deportation will bring the price.
of housing down because there will be less bidding for the limited supply.
Thanks, man, for your question.
Really appreciate it.
Let's go to Christian.
And I want to make sure I pronounce this correctly.
Lisi, thank you for being a member.
What's on your mind?
Hi, thank you.
You did pronounce it correctly.
Great.
It doesn't happen very often.
We were at your event at USF. We had a great time.
We appreciate you coming out to visit.
Oh, amazing.
You were there yesterday.
Sorry I didn't say hi.
That's great.
Yeah, no, it's okay.
We were close, but there was a lot of pushing and shoving and trying to get to you.
There were a lot of people.
Yes.
I was just blown away to see the response from college students and their energy, as well as the nonsensical questions that were asked and the talking points and all the comments about Doge.
It was just very interesting to watch.
But my question is about some of the deportations that are being carried out.
I know that...
Maybe not a lot, but some of the individuals are maybe not high priority.
But do you think we'll get to a point where the DHS will stop approving work authorizations and extensions for those that use it as a shield to stay in the country?
So first of all, I want to just ask, can you just describe to the audience what that campus vibe was like firsthand?
It was a packed group.
They were standing the whole time.
Kind of bring us into the...
Into the arena for someone that's just watching some of the clips.
What was it like?
What did you learn?
What did you see?
Yeah, it was high energy.
It was, you know, we got there at about 1030. So we were there for quite a while.
Lots of people coming in.
We heard lots of students that were skipping class just to be able to come see you and be able to witness just some of the action.
That's the first time we've been to a college event, so it was a very new experience for us.
It was obviously hot and sunny and all that, but just hearing a lot of the questions and seeing the perspective of college students and just what has changed and what their experience has been like in college and what blew me away the most was hearing college students say, That once a professor finds out, you know, they're conservative, Christian, fill in the blank, that they're looked on differently and treated differently and graded differently.
That was like the most...
Wasn't that chilling?
It was chilling for sure.
So thank you for that.
But it was an awesome event.
Now, as far as the work authorizations, I don't know.
Look, the president's stated policy right now is that he wants to continue a steady stream of legal immigration and crackdown on illegal immigration.
That's fine.
However, if and when, I would have some disagreement with that, if and when it starts to jeopardize the wage growth or the wage integrity of native-born Americans, I would have some problems with that.
But I think the president is addressing this in a very smart way.
Go after people that are in this country illegally.
And you remember that young lady yesterday from Colombia.
She said, we're here legally.
We want the people who are not here legally to get the heck out of the country.
It actually creates a lot of legal versus illegal immigrant resentment, as it should.
Thank you so much for being there yesterday.
Sorry I didn't get to say hi.
Daisy, let's send them a signed book or something.
Thank you, guys.
Appreciate it.
Oh, thank you.
You're the best.
All right.
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So normally, if Blake was doing this how I would, I take the online course.
And then I take the quiz.
Now, you've never taken these online courses, correct, Blake?
I have not.
I have not.
They're wonderful, for the record.
But this is what you could know if you take them.
Yes.
And you're not like me who just does this like a psychopath in my free time.
Yes.
Well, you said it.
But yes.
But it's fun because now Blake is kind of going in blind.
Now, the extra points, if you can do it without me telling you the multiple choice, okay?
Okay.
So let's take some time on this.
We have all hour to kind of go throughout this.
This is the first question, okay?
Polybius, did I say that right?
Yes.
Was the tutor and mentor of blank, whom he accompanied on campaign.
His name was Scipio.
It was not Scipio Africanus.
That was his ancestor.
It was Scipio...
Emilianus.
That is right.
Well, I don't know if it's right, but that's one of the options.
So the options were Quintus Fabius, Scipio Africanus, Hannibal Barca, and Scipio...
Would not be Hannibal.
Would not be Hannibal.
And Scipio Alamanus is one of the...
We'll find out if you were right at the end, but I imagine you are.
So who is Polybius?
Polybius was this Greek guy who got...
His dad was a leader in southern Greece.
We won't get into the drama about it, but it was like the Achaean League, I think was the name of it.
And they got beat in a war.
So he was a hostage in Rome and he either grew up in Rome or at least like he spent most of his age in Rome and he became this big Rome.
It's kind of crazy.
He basically, Rome was not super dominant yet.
But Polybius deduced Rome is going to be the superpower of the Mediterranean.
What year was this?
This is maybe about 150 BC or so.
And he thinks, Rome is going to be the superpower of the Mediterranean.
They are going to take over the world, basically, and I'm going to write about why.
And so he wrote histories of Rome, but he also wrote analysis of the Roman Constitution and stuff like that.
Got it.
According to Polybius, the primary reason Rome was able to conquer the Mediterranean world in less than 53 years was due to what?
He thought they had a special magical constitution.
That is one of the answers.
We'll find out if you're right.
According to Polybius, blank is...
And again, I can give you the multiple choice answers if you'd like.
Blank is part of the constitution of Rome.
Now, I probably have to give you the multiple choice answers here.
So according to Polybius, blank is part of the constitution of Rome.
Education, religion, the military, all of the above or none of the above.
All of the above.
Okay, just to make sure...
Because he's really...
He's not even just...
It's not like our constitution where it's just, you know, how political...
He's really describing how their whole society is organized.
So you would say all of the above.
Education, religion, and military.
Got it.
Question four.
Very heavy on Polybius today.
Polybius explains that the Romans had a mixed constitution with the Senate designed to supply what?
It's going for, I think aristocracy is what he's going for, because he would say in the Greeks they would have oligarchies, which were aristocratic, tyrannies, or like monarchies, and then they would have democracies, which was the mob.
And he thought Rome had all three of these, because they had the tribunes, who were like the masses.
They would have monarchy through their consuls, who were like an elected monarch, sort of.
And then the Senate was the aristocracy.
So he's going for aristocracy.
So that is one of the options.
So is that your final answer?
Okay, aristocracy.
This is the last one, then we'll take a break, and we'll get back to the...
The highest office in the cursus honorum.
Did I say that right?
Cursus honorum.
I'm not sure how you pronounce it for sure.
Was the what?
Consul.
Okay, that is one of the answers.
So I know enough to be dangerous about a council.
Cicero was a Roman council.
Did they only serve for one year?
One year.
It used to be you couldn't do it more than once.
That would break down over time.
So I think Marius was consul seven times.
But yeah, Cicero was like a one-year Roman council.
Was that before Caesar?
I think it was possibly after the first time.
Maybe it was a bit before.
I can't remember my exact hierarchy.
It was probably when they were still a republic form of government, right?
Okay, so that's five of them.
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Brad, thank you for being a member.
What's on your mind?
Hey, Charlie.
Great to see you.
We met at the Christmas Gala in Mar-a-Lago and then again at AmFest Phoenix.
So it's good to see you again.
Let's see.
Do you have an eidetic memory?
How did you learn to read so fast?
So I do not have an identical memory.
Blake probably does.
Ah, not quite.
But no, I do not.
And I don't know if I have the ability to read fast.
I have the ability to process information pretty fast.
I can be sent a paragraph, be sent information, and I'm pretty good at being able to host a show and read what people are saying and then be able to at least make arguments while not everyone has, I think, the ability to do that.
I guess it's a...
A skill set.
Andrew says, you process information insanely fast.
Not always accurately, but I have a...
Getting 90% of it instantly is still pretty good.
Ryan says in the chat, he says, the skill is nuts.
You can talk on radio and then type messages in our chat at the same time.
Very impressive.
I never knew that was a skill.
Andrew says, sometimes you jump to conclusions, and most of the time it's spot on.
So that's the best answer I have.
I guess I was born with it.
Thank you, Brad, for being a member.
Fantastic.
Thanks, Charlie.
Kendra, thank you for being a member.
Deeply appreciate it.
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Let's go to Kendra.
Kendra, what's on your mind?
Hi, Charlie.
Great to talk to you.
My friend and I, Lori, started a TPSA faith group in our church last year, and we've invited Seth Gruber to speak to us in September.
We have a critically important election in November for governor and House of Delegates because the Democratic Party is trying to put abortion in our Constitution, and we want to stop that.
We want to raise awareness.
It's not a presidential election, so we're concerned that people won't.
It won't show up like they did.
And with all the upheaval in the government, we're hoping it breaks up some of the monopoly of liberalism in Northern Virginia.
But we were wondering, in this process, we found out there's no TPUSA action group that I'm aware of in Virginia, or at least no person, and wondered if that's in the works or if there's anybody specific that we can talk to.
We'd love to work with them in this coming year before this election.
So first of all, I want to just applaud you, Kendra.
The fight for life is the most important fight.
So thank you for doing that and for going against the grain and going against popular, conventional, let's just say, views and doing the right thing.
So God bless you.
You will be richly rewarded for that.
The number one piece of emphasis on that fight needs to be the churches.
If the churches can't speak out on this issue, then there is no chance that you could stop it, especially, though, in a lower turnout type election.
That's where churches can mobilize and can make up some of that difference.
You are correct.
We do not yet have full-time staff or any presence in Virginia at Turning Point Action.
We might expand.
But understand, every organization has to know their limitations, know where they're best positioned.
Arizona has been, obviously, a major focus of ours.
We're keeping an eye on Virginia.
I certainly hope there's a good senatorial candidate coming.
I would love to see Glenn Youngkin run for Senate in 2026. But more importantly, we do have tools that you and Virginia can use.
You can use the Turning Point Action app.
You could do a Commit 100. You can use some of our training.
So there's a lot that is still available for you.
But we are contemplating getting involved in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
Kendra, really quick, do you believe that Virginia could turn into a red state presidentially?
Yes, I do.
The area that I'm in, so much of the areas that we found are very red.
In fact, I worked in the polls as an election worker, and I was told that our area is heavily Democratic.
And I looked afterward, and all the Republicans on the slate won our area by a lot.
So I was very pleased about that.
I think you're right.
Again, I don't want to get too bullish on it, but the trend is our friend in Virginia.
It really is.
But Kendra, do not give up on the fight for life.
It is incredibly important.
I know that people want to ignore it and they don't want to fight for it.
But lean in.
I'm glad you're hosting, Seth.
And hold the line.
Seriously, God bless you for that.
Thank you, Kendra, for being a member.
Thanks so much.
God bless.
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Just a reminder, normal people take the Hillsdale online courses and then do the quizzes.
Blake does the quizzes because he was uploaded with a bizarre amount of information in utero about Rome.
It's CharlieForHillsdale.com The courses are amazing.
I am going to try to have Blake take some of the courses, because I don't know if you could do this with every topic.
Probably not.
Like the Jane Austen one.
I don't know if you could do that.
Okay, I haven't read Jane Austen yet.
Gotta get on that.
The Euclidean Geometry you might be able to do.
Okay.
So let's use this as a chance to educate around this.
The Tribune of the Plebs.
Did I say that correctly?
First, what is the Tribune of the Plebs?
The Tribune of the Plebs was an office created.
They kind of had this thing called the struggle of orders in Rome because they had patricians who were the elite, the noble class.
And then you had the plebs, ordinary people.
And the Tribune, they...
We're kind of an office that was created after the plebs revolted a few too many times, and they would demand more rights.
And the Tribune, the big thing that he could do is, or a few things.
One, he was personally inviolable, so you could not touch a Tribune, I believe.
I think it was a death penalty offense to harm a Tribune, basically.
And then they could veto legislation.
Veto literally means...
That's one of the options.
They could veto.
It literally means, I forbid.
And they could just say, veto and kill a bill.
And then if they're looking for something else...
Do they have the ability to convene the People's Assembly?
Yeah, yeah.
They could do that, too.
Okay.
So would you say, then, convene People's Assembly and veto bills?
Yes.
That's one of the options.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
We'll go with that.
Okay.
Very good.
Number seven.
I have to...
This is a fill-in-the-blank.
The blank was a ladder of offices through which Roman citizens...
Cursus honorum, or honorum, or however you want to say that.
Okay, well, I don't even have to say the options.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
Well, they already said it in the quiz.
The power...
To conduct foreign diplomacy for the Roman Republic.
Russian Republic.
That would be crazy.
For the Roman Republic resided with the blank.
That would be the Senate.
The Senate would declare war.
The consuls would command the army, but it wasn't like us where the president does these things.
It would be that the Senate would send ambassadors.
They would reply to things.
And now just to remind the audience, this was before...
The transition from the Republic to a dictatorship, correct?
So a dictatorship was an office that the Roman Republic had.
For military purposes, right?
So what happened is the dictator was like, the consul they had, they had two consuls, and they couldn't override the other.
And so when there was a super big emergency...
The Romans would declare a dictator where it was basically only one.
He would supersede the consuls, and his word was law.
It could only go for six months, and at the end of it, he would have to answer for anything he did.
But he basically had absolute power for six months, and they would use this for emergencies.
Julius Caesar did declare himself dictator for life.
They got a little stabby-stabby towards him for that.
On the Ides of March.
Yes, and then a lot happened in the 15 years after that, and it ends with...
The Empire.
And it was kind of a constitutional fiction that they created first.
So it's sort of a process where Rome gets...
It becomes an empire, in fact, and then it becomes more and more and more so in practice.
In Augustus.
So Augustus, he just called himself First Citizen.
And he was the emperor because he just held...
Wasn't he the nephew of Julius Caesar?
I think he was the biological nephew and adopted son.
I know enough to be dangerous.
CharlieforHillsdale.com, you'd say the Senate would be there, right?
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I was telling Charlie before, I looked up who the 47th emperor was, and it's not easy to say who the 47th is because there's co-emperors, but the best answer, I think, is Diocletian, which if you look him up, he's a very important reformer emperor.
There was a giant crisis.
The empire was falling apart, and he is the one who restored stability.
He also persecuted Christians a lot.
We don't agree with that part of it.
But that was bad.
That was bad.
Don't do that.
But he did a lot of other things that were good.
He was Merrick Garland in that way.
All right, two more.
I want to get to these two more questions here.
Polybius argues that the primary flaw of the Roman Constitution is a true or false.
Was that it impeded decisive and prompt action when it was needed?
False, because he thought that was one of the things that was good about it.
It had a deliberative aspect, but when there was an emergency, it could supply decisive action.
Rome's mixed constitution created a system of checks whereby each part of the regime could prevent the others from becoming too strong or independent because no part of the regime was blank.
I can read the options.
Yeah, read the options on that one.
Capable of conducting foreign affairs?
In control of the military, self-sufficient, or in charge of public finances?
I think they're going for self-sufficient on that one.
We can pause if you want to think about it.
Let's do self-sufficient, because that was the last question, right?
Okay, just to say, Rome's mixed constitution created a system of checks whereby each part of the regime could prevent others from becoming too strong or independent because no part of the regime was...
Self-sufficient.
I want to know, before we get back, did I get them all?
We're about to find out.
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Yes!
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Where are you from?
What's on your mind?
Hi, Charlie.
I'm from New Jersey.
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I want to be able to share my views and build my brand around that.
But I find it very hard in a liberal industry with Chapel Rhone and Charlie XCX. And I've always been told, oh, you got to push your music towards the LGBTQ community.
Which I thought was ridiculous.
So my question is, how can I be a MAGA conservative pop star when I have everything going against me?
Well, you have the population going for you.
Remember, what side won the popular vote?
So, I mean, it might feel as if everything's against you in your current industry right now.
But I could tell you that you could definitely become very popular.
Now, I will tell you, I want to thank you for being a member, and I'd love to listen to your music.
I don't know if I'd like it or not.
But no offense to you, I just don't know if I like the genre.
My team trolls me all the time.
I don't know who Charlie XCS is or Chappelle Rowan.
Do you know who these people are?
I've heard of them.
Which Roman emperor was Chappelle Rowan?
Admittedly, I can't help you on that one.
It's a joke.
Charlie XCS, that could be like a very late stage.
That's like a late stage Roman emperor.
Charles X, that could be like a French king.
Put up Chappelle Rowan on screen.
Do you know who Chappelle Rowan is?
Let me see.
What is that?
That does look like a piece of Renaissance art.
I'm going to go with French monarch.
Thomas, do you know who Chappelle Rowan is?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I bet your music's better.
She has a song called Pink Pony Club.
Daisy says you would hate it.
I'm sure I would.
Look, if you love the craft, man, lean into it.
Dedicate your life to it.
Don't let anybody get in your way.
Do what you believe is right.
Art needs to glorify the highest good.
The problem, the reason why music largely is terrible the last 20 years is it's not pointing towards anything.
It's pointing towards self-indulgence.
It's pointing towards licentiousness.
It's pointing towards narcissism.
All art, all inquiry points towards some good.
What is that from, Blake?
Aristotle's ethics.
It points everything, and Aristotle's exactly right.
Everything you do, every action, every inquiry, every art, every good points towards some good.
It points towards what your definition of good is.
And there is only one objective definition of good.
So the point being is if you're going to be in Popstart, do something that points towards the divine, towards the beautiful, not just towards rubbish like Chappelle Rowan.
Thanks, man.
Hope to meet you soon.
And please send me your, they call it a mixtape still.
Please send me your playlist.
Thanks, man.
Thank you, Kylie.
Joni, thank you for being a member.
What's on your mind?
Hey, Charlie.
Hey, Blake.
The 47 hats look great.
Aren't they great?
Yeah, they are.
I can't wait to wear mine.
And it's charliekirkstore.com.
Yeah, I purchased one, so I know you're sending them out, so I can't wait to receive it and wear it.
Anyway, my questions are around election integrity, and I'm from Orange County.
I know you're in Arizona.
We've probably shared the same frustrations with the long counting process.
And I observed in the polls, and then I also observed the counting in the Orange County registrars of voters just watching.
The ballots and watching a couple seats get turned over from red to blue with all the mail-in ballots and the provisional ballots.
So I guess my question is, I think I saw your governor recently reject implementing some of the Florida voting process.
Oh yeah, the wonderful Katie Hobbs.
Yeah, Katie Hobbs.
So I want to know about that and then what's next?
If President Trump and her doge have any plans of cleaning up voter rolls and ending this long process of counting ballots after election day.
So yes, a couple things on that.
The problem is the federal government does not have as much authority or jurisdiction over this as you might think.
So let me read my X on this, if that's OK.
Katie Hobbs just vetoed HB 2703, a bill that would have guaranteed Arizonans who would know the winner on the night of the election.
Arizona has been the laughingstock of national politics because it takes three to four weeks to deliver a final canvas.
And Arizona's Democrat governor just vetoed it, as you say.
We must become a state that will settle for this.
And here's my unfortunate, but actually also fortunate, because I think we can do it.
This has to be a state-led thing.
This is not going to happen from the feds.
It has to be a state-led thing.
And so we have to say that we're going to win the states from the bottom up and engage the grassroots.
So that's the best answer I have.
And hopefully we can pass the SAVE Act.
All right.
Thank you.
Vernon is next.
Vernon, what's on your mind?
Hey, Charlie.
First time.
On the show live, actually listening to the show live, so excited that I got to talk to you.
Quick question.
I'm interested in your opinion on this third term project that showed up at CPAC this week, you know, purporting to allow President Trump to run again.
I'm, from my kind of libertarian sort of roots, kind of fundamentally against it.
But I'd like to see term limits for all elected officials.
But just wondering, you know, if you could give your context and thoughts on it.
So as far as Trump's third term, is that the case that we were talking about?
Yeah.
I don't think it's constitutional.
I'm open and willing to hear any and all arguments.
Blake, what, if any, would the argument be that Trump could run for a third term?
And let's just read it constitutionally.
What is the amendment?
The amendment is, I think it's the 23rd amendment?
22. So let's read this, okay?
And let's hear this out, okay?
Because any argument, we're going to hear out.
No president shall be elected to the office of president more than twice.
And no person who has held the office of president or has acted as president for more than two years of a term, which some other person who was elected president shall be elected.
To the office of president more than once.
And then it goes on to...
Basically doesn't apply to truth.
Yeah.
But it does say...
I mean, it's...
They would say it's not two consecutive terms.
It does not mention consecutive anything here.
It says, no person shall be elected to the office more than twice.
Sometimes people will say...
Sometimes people will speculate you could do something, like you could elect him vice president, and then...
Right.
But then...
What it says is no one who is ineligible to the office of president can be elected vice president.
Sometimes people will come up with, I think it's a cop-out, where they'll say, well, eligibility only means things like they can't be born in a foreign country, they can't be below the age, and this is something else.
I'll be honest, I think those are all massive cop-outs.
We passed this bill because FDR made himself president more than two terms.
We thought that was a bad precedent that we shouldn't repeat.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
You know, only can go two terms.
And I think if they try to get around that, it would be unconstitutional.
This happens every time a president...
I'm Trump's biggest fan, and I mean, if he's popular and if it's constitutional, fine, serve as a term.
I just want to...
I'm just reading the law, because we're...
And this happens every time a president gets re-elected.
You know, Bush, someone proposed, like, oh, let's get rid of the term limits for Bush.
Obama, Democrats said, let's get rid of limits for Obama.
This happens.
It's understandable.
We like our guy.
But we did pass this for a reason.
In 1951. Yeah, and...
The text of the Constitution is, can't be president more than twice.
And in the long run, I think that's a good practice to have.
Because what, as we'll see with Rome, what undoes any republic is the idea that one person is just totally indispensable to it.
By the way, all of you guys, this is one of the reasons why you should support Turning Point USA. You should have this Constitution with you at all times.
It's amazing.
It has all of the extra facts on it.
Again, I am open to any argument, always.
But help me understand, is there wiggle room in the statement, no person shall be elected to the office of president more than twice?
It does not strike me.
Now, if it said that no person shall be elected to consecutive terms, it's just none of that is there.
All right, thank you.
Let's go to the next question.
Scott, Scott, what is on your mind?
Members.CharlieKirk.com.
Yeah, hi, Charlie.
Thank you.
First off, I want to publicly thank President Trump for signing the executive order keeping education accessible and ending the COVID-19 vaccine mandates in schools.
But I'm not sure if the president or if other people are aware of what's been happening in California since 2016. Governor Jerry Brown passed a bill, the SB 277, which removed personal belief or religious belief as a reason to be exempted from vaccines in order to enter school.
So my question is...
Do you see Trump doing the same thing for all vaccines?
Because the rationale inside of that executive order, the language used is pretty compelling.
It's talking about children being coerced to take a shot and conditioning their education on it, parents being, and how parents should be empowered, free to make their own decisions.
And so this is critical because as RFK Jr. has stated, there are no pre-licensure double-blind placebo tests for any of the vaccines out there.
And so I'm not comfortable injecting my two boys with aborted fetal tissue and no neurotoxins without that 100% assurance that they'll be okay, along with the $5 billion paid out to the vaccine injury compensation programs.
So my question is, do you see him actually Moving just beyond COVID-19 and going to all vaccines and giving Californians, and I know Colorado and Hawaii have a similar thing, but giving Californians the right to go back to school and not being forced out of school.
It's a really thoughtful question.
Just so you know, Producer Andrew is dealing with something very similar right now.
I don't want to out him too much, but he's saying this ferociously in the chat, which is...
He said he's dealing it with his son and daughter right now.
He can't use religious exemptions.
They're demanding the full schedule, every single shot.
And so, look, we have to be level-headed about this.
Do we want to have MMR breakouts in schools?
Probably not.
At the same time, if you don't have a hepatitis B vaccine, you're not allowed into elementary school.
That's insane.
I'm sorry.
That's technically on the schedule.
And they're literally at a place now where if you don't have the COVID shot, they're not allowing kids into these schools.
And so I think there's some middle ground where there could be kind of a core schedule that might be necessary for certain schools.
But religious exemptions used to be a thing in California, and they've completely clamped down on them.
So I think that it's something Bobby Kennedy needs to address completely and thoroughly.
Yeah, I agree.
It's forcing a lot of families out of school.
Well, and that's the thing, is that we are quickly heading towards vaccinated and unvaccinated schools.
That's where this is going to head.
That is that direction.
All right, thank you, man.
Really good question.
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Blake, I don't know if we can get through a whole other quiz in two minutes.
Up to you.
Or we could just go after.
We could.
I got something else to do.
According to Dr. Calvert, which this is a very difficult question, the ideal Roman was what?
And there's many options.
Was it a farmer, lawyer?
You have to know this historian, so this is not a fair question, right?
Is he the guy in the lecture or something?
Yeah, he is.
I assume he's probably thinking, if you're thinking the ideal abstract Roman, he'd be like a citizen farmer.
Okay, so yeah, so a citizen, farmer, warrior?
Yeah, yeah, that would be like...
If you get this wrong, I won't hold that against you.
That would be like Cincinnatus, you know?
Yeah, the Order of Cincinnatus.
Washington was part of that, wasn't he?
Order of the Cincinnati, Society of the Cincinnati.
And that's where we get the town Cincinnati from, right?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, if you get that wrong, I don't think that's fair.
The top of the Roman social order was the what class?
Patricians.
The struggle of the orders encompassed a period of about 200 years during which the Plebeians demanded that the patriarchs give them greater social political...
True, true.
Going fast.
Blank was celebrated as one of the great models of Roman citizenship for keeping invading the Entruscan forces from crossing the...
Horatius.
Horatius.
Yeah, I don't know his full name.
Horatius at the Bridge.
Great poem.
Read it.
The blank is the highest religious position.
In the Roman Republic.
Pontifex Maximus.
That's why the Roman Pope is called the Pontifex.
The Evocatio was an ancient Roman prayer that asked what?
It was this funny prayer they would do where if they were attacking an enemy city, they would pray like, hey, gods of the other people, you should come be our gods instead.
So for foreign peoples to abandon their gods and turn to Rome?
I think it was foreign gods to abandon.
Okay, really quick.
Lucius Quintetius Cincinnati is remembered as a great hero of Rome because he what?
Because he was dictator and he handed the power back.
Like, he left his farm, won a battle, and then quit.
Like, that was the Roman...
Refused the office of dictator and continued to fight.
Not refused.
He became dictator, but then he forfeited it voluntarily.
Like, he resigned after...
Yeah, you're going to have to choose that one, though.
I mean, it defeated the Aquaean surrender dictatorial power after 15 years?
Yeah, 15 days.
15 days.
You like that one?
Yeah.
Okay, so he defeated and surrendered.
Okay.
In the early Republic, a dictator was a what?
A dictator was someone elected to emergency powers.
Yep, that's right.
At the battles of Heraclea and Asalim...
Asculum and Heraclea.
Yeah, Pyrrhus.
Pyrrhus of Epirus.
Pyrrhic victory.
He won but lost a lot of dudes and then said...
He could not keep fighting the Romans because if he won too many battles, he would lose the war.
The Romans had conquered most of the Italian peninsula by what year?
They'd done most of it.
Oh yeah, they defeated the Greeks like 275?
Yeah, it was 270 BC. Yeah, that sounds about right.
Blake got 100%.
Charlie for Hillsdale.com.
Okay, let's go to Zane.
Zane, thank you for being a member.
What's on your mind?
Zane, the floor is yours.
Yes.
Hello.
I'm 20 years old, and I have a lot of younger friends, and I'm wondering how to get them involved in politics.
Well, first of all, glad you're involved with being a member.
Get them involved with Turning Point USA especially.
Being a young patriot is super important, and have community, communication, and it's always helpful to meet with regularity.
And yeah, look, that's what Turning Point USA strives to do, is to build these kind of relationships, build these kind of gatherings.
We'd love to help you in any way possible.
Thank you so much, man.
Last question of the day.
Thank you.
Shannon, Shannon, thank you for being a member.
You're the last question.
Let's bring it home.
Hi, Charlie.
Thank you for having me.
Yes.
How are you?
I'm well, thank you.
I'm a teacher in Western New York.
And just wondering, so what happens if they do eliminate the Department of Education in a blue state like mine?
Where right now I have more trust in the federal government than I do in the federal leadership here in my state.
Smart question.
To be honest, it's going to empower your state even more.
And that's just the sad truth.
It's a valid concern because the best thing the Department of Education has currently is they have the Civil Rights Office where they can say, you're discriminating against white kids or whatever.
I'd hope that we can get rid of the Department of Education, but move that to the DOJ, because that law still exists.
100%.
I will say, Blake is exactly right, that functionally, the ability to enforce and police anti-white discrimination, that will go to the Department of Justice.
What state do you live in?
Western New York.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't internalize that.
So, yes, that is an unintended...
Not unintended, but that's just the reality that...
But you could also vote with your feet.
I know that sounds terrible because I don't like telling people to leave their homes, but the federalized Department of Education has done such damage.
Declining test scores, massive administration.
And let me just tell you one number that Dr. Larry Arnn told us on our show, which everyone should commit to memory.
You ready for this?
There are 23 million people that work for the government in America.
11 million of them are in education.
Only 6.7 million of them are teachers.
That's crazy.
That's Dr. Larry Arnn on our show.
4.3 million administrators.
So 6.7 million of them.
Let me look at this right.
It was 11?
6.7?
No, 6.7 million are administrators.
Holy cow.
So more of them than teachers.
Yes, there's more administrators than teachers.
That's according to Dr. Larry Arnn.
So that means that the majority of education spending goes towards paper pushers and permanent bureaucracy.
Again, that's Dr. Larry Arnn's numbers.
I trust him.
He's a serious guy.
And, I mean, it just goes to show, what has the Department of Education done?
It's the Department of Paper pushing administration of what it's become.
