Exactly four years have passed since January 6, which the Left described as "worse than Pearl Harbor." Now, January 6 marks Donald Trump's triumphant certification as the 47th president. Charlie talks about the "Valley Forge of MAGA" and how much the movement has grown in the last 4 years. Then, Ezra Levant joins the show to walk through Justin Trudeau's resignation and how the Canadian truckers of 2022 paved the way for the nation's liberation.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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It is Monday, January 6. Ten years ago, January 6th didn't have any meaning.
You'd say January 6th, people would say, okay, it's no different than January 5th or January 7th.
Like, whatever, it's January 6th.
But four years ago, January 6th took on new meaning.
January 6th, of course, was the meeting date for the certification of the 2020 election.
An election that we know was full of so many problems.
So much lying and deceit and tomfoolery and fraud and nonsense across the board.
We know that...
The 2020 election was a drive-by shooting of the U.S. Constitution.
And January 6th was a meeting point of so much of that passion and that fury.
And we all remember what happened on that day.
But on that day, we had an incomplete picture of actually what was going on.
We had an incomplete picture.
It seemed as if, to an untrained eye, It was Trump supporters that got so out of control, some of which may or may not have been organized, and tried to storm the government.
We did not appreciate or understand how many FBI agents were involved, how many deep state actors were involved.
We did not know the complexities or the details of how Ashley Babbitt was murdered in cold blood.
And the Democrats and the regime, they thought they had their Reichstag fire.
They thought they had...
The moment that they could blame the opposition party for all of the problems, clamp down, put them in prison, break their will, and own the country for a generation.
Understand the bad guys thought that January 6th was a gift to them from the political gods to be able to own, monopolize, and dominate the political discourse for a generation.
And the political power for a generation.
They saw their opening and they went for it.
What ensued was the most over-the-top exercise of legal authority and the criminal justice system we've seen in the modern era.
From granny's homes being raided to patriots in Homer, Alaska being hunted down by FBI agents.
We've now learned that doors were opened.
for some of the protesters protesters even stayed inside of rope lines that this was largely an entrapment operation they said it was the biggest attack since Pearl Harbor or even worse than Pearl Harbor and they said that because they could justify declaring war on their fellow citizens there was even a talk by John Brennan Of a new Patriot Act.
In fact, can you guys get that tape of John Brennan a couple weeks after January 6th?
I think it was January 19th on MSNBC, where he said, we anti-government types and libertarians must be spied on and rooted out if our country is a chilling clip.
They were talking about expanding federal surveillance authority.
They thought they had their Reichstag fire.
And the Reichstag fire, of course, was used by the National Socialist Workers Party of Nazi Germany.
To be able to justify complete and total governmental control.
The communists did this.
Give us total control.
No more civil liberties.
No more freedom.
No more freedom association.
We're in control.
You are not.
Too bad, so sad.
They went all in on a January 6th narrative, and it was hard to escape.
And they thought that our movement, and yes, of course, the figurehead and the leader of our movement was politically dead.
They thought it was over.
They said Donald Trump is going to be put in exile, and if he dares to try to cross the line to run for political office again, we're going to lock him in prison for 700 years.
They thought they had the movement dead to rights.
They were certain on this day, four years ago, that if they compare it to Pearl Harbor and compare it to the Civil War and call it an insurrection, that they would break our will.
And a lot of people went through a lot.
I was subpoenaed by the January 6th committee.
A lot of people I know were subpoenaed by the January 6th committee.
All for nonsensical, ridiculous stuff.
Steve Bannon served federal prison time because of the illegitimate January 6th committee.
Peter Navarro served prison time because of the illegitimate January 6th committee.
Illegally constituted with Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.
Of course, Donald Trump authorized 10,000 National Guard troops, but was rejected.
This day was a day they wanted to try to say, well, live in infamy.
It was the Pearl Harbor of those crazy MAGA folks that wear those red hats and they own guns and they go to church and they live in the countryside.
When they get too big of a voice, they try to storm the government.
But there was more to the story.
And this is where you in this audience deserve such credit.
You did not accept the media narrative as is.
You started digging.
You went to alternative media.
You went to Rumble.
You went to X. You went to...
Other social media platforms.
And remember, it was because of January the 6th that Donald Trump was kicked off of Spotify.
He was kicked off of Pinterest as if he was a big Pinterest user.
He was kicked off of Facebook.
He was kicked off of Instagram.
And he lost his Twitter account as a sitting president of the United States.
Donald Trump lost his Twitter account as a sitting Four years ago, we entered the lowest point the conservative movement has been at in 100 years.
Ever since the founding of our country, it looked completely dark.
It was the darkest midnight of winter.
The bad guys controlled the House and they controlled the Senate.
And don't forget, the night before January 6th on January 5th, The Democrats won control of the U.S. Senate.
Raphael Warnock and John Ossoff won their Senate seats in Georgia on January 5, 2021 in the Georgia runoff, which gave them the control of the Senate.
And it was just another demoralization gut punch.
They control the House and they control the Senate.
They control the presidency.
It was the dark night of the soul.
It was not a time for sunshine patriots, and you know what I'm talking about.
All these people that are all uppity, oh, I supported Trump.
No, you didn't.
You were out trying to duck and run for cover when those of us had to go lawyer up and hire up, and we were on the run.
There was a worry and a concern that the first couple days, we said, are they going to go raid the offices of Turning Point USA? Is the FBI just going to kind of show up and say, FBI, give us all your computers.
Give us all your devices.
We didn't know.
We were so directionally confused.
Because January 6th gave them that confidence where the media just would have rolled up, CNN truck, boom, turning point offices be rated.
We didn't know.
We had no idea what was happening in real time.
We, of course, did nothing wrong and we had no involvement.
That doesn't mean anything.
They had a mandate to finally go shock and awe.
To go blitzkrieg against their enemies.
And we were at midnight of the Dark Night of the Soul.
January 6th and the days and months and year and a half and two years that followed was the Valley Forge of the MAGA movement.
We stuck it out to the most trying period and it made ourselves stronger.
It was that old Nietzsche quote, what does not kill you makes you stronger.
We bent and we didn't break, but some people did break.
I remember we lost donors.
We lost supporters.
We lost students.
We lost chapters.
We lost pastors.
It was too much for them.
They didn't have the stomach.
They didn't have the spine.
They couldn't take it.
The noise was too much.
They were calling it insurrectionists.
New York Times calling them bad names.
Their friends were going to jail.
People were being raided.
They were calling it insurrectionists.
It was too much.
And I never faulted them.
I said, that's fine.
Get out of the way.
We'll call you when we get our country back.
Well, guess what?
We're here to call you on January 6th now, 2025, four years later, and we have our country back.
And it did not happen overnight.
It took a miraculous intervention by Almighty God of Donald Trump not being murdered in Butler, Pennsylvania.
It took ballot chasing and voter registration and the grit and the hustle of the grassroots work that took years and years.
It took a resolve.
It took a grittedness.
It took a cussetness.
Where we did not accept the premise and we dove deeper.
We asked the questions like, who is the pipe bomber?
Who is Ray Epps?
Who killed Ashley Babbitt?
Who killed Brian Sitnik?
Is the FBI telling us the truth?
Why have you not released the January 6th tapes?
What crime did the QAnon shaman actually break?
And we dug and we dug and we dug and we reversed course and it was like moving an aircraft carrier.
And we did it.
And you can all delight and celebrate, four years later, it is one of the greatest reversals in political fortunes in the history of the planet.
Nothing comes close.
Where a movement looks so dead to rights, so gone, that it was in complete exile, and bottom up, you rebuilt it and saved the country.
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We had the tech companies against us, the major banks against us, the oligarchs against us, every major billionaire against us.
You could not even find a lawyer to represent you.
I've actually never talked about this publicly.
I was subpoenaed by the January 6th committee.
I had to go through 10 different lawyers.
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Before one agreed to represent me.
10. They said, oh no, we decided not to represent any clients that were involved in January 6th.
I wasn't involved in January 6th.
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They said, too bad.
To understand this, that these people are willing to go represent cartels and drug smugglers and child sex traffickers, and I went through 10 different law firms.
I spent all day, when I found out that this whole thing was going to turn into a committee, like a day and a half, going from one Zoom call to the next, trying to get a lawyer to represent me.
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Even after I told them all the facts and circumstances, the legal community was so...
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Front page of thehill.com.
Who is Liz Peek, by the way?
Never should be taken seriously again.
Front page.
Trump's political career is over.
And just like that, the bold, combustible, and sometimes brilliant political career of Donald J. Trump comes to an end.
Trump's presidency will now go down as a mis...
Experiment.
A cautionary tale about the cult of personality and the riskiness of electing an outsider.
It is a tragedy.
It is a tragedy because among other accomplishments, Trump inspired and mobilized tens and thousands of people.
Is Liz Peake always on Fox?
What a joke she is.
Can we tweet at her?
It's just disgusting.
I mean, these people need to be held accountable.
I'm sure she's trying to warm herself back into the inauguration.
Can I get tickets to this ball?
No, Liz Peek, you don't get tickets to that ball, okay?
Sorry.
You said that Trump's political career is over.
She says here, in her piece, very bluntly, there will be a core group of loyal Trump supporters that make excuses for the events of January 6th.
The numbers will shrink as he leaves office.
And enthusiasm for his ongoing leadership of the Republican Party will decline, Liz Peek writes.
There are plenty of GOP legislators eager to fill his shoes.
Those folks will do their best to hasten Trump's decline.
This is the intelligentsia by which he's a Republican.
This was the intelligentsia of the Republican Party being taken seriously by the Wall Street Journal.
And what happened next was a deep state attempt to intimidate and demoralize our movement.
Office was going to be filled with dark-looking SUVs and a bunch of people with purple hair with FBI vests coming in and taking all of our devices.
We didn't know.
They saw their shot, and boy, did they go for it.
Thousands of people indicted.
Thousands of people indicted to set the table to try and eliminate the MAGA movement, to eliminate our movement.
And it turns out we're a lot tougher than that because we are not a movement that just, you know, we're passively involved.
It made us antifragile.
It's a term I've used many times.
In fact, I gave the first speech about antifragility back in February of 2021. The doctrine of antifragility, as authored by Nassim Taleb in his book Antifragile, is that there are fragile institutions, those that shatter.
There are tough institutions, those that do not shatter.
And then there are antifragile institutions, those that get stronger the more you attack them.
That they actually...
They grow in their resolve.
They get tougher the more that you throw at them, the more that you punch them, the more that you criticize them, the more that you smear them, the more that you slander.
And Donald Trump was up against the wall, the likes of which no political canon ever would, indicted in four different jurisdictions facing 700 years in federal prison, and many of your friends and my friends were in federal prison or facing federal prison time.
The whole regime was just surrounding us, and we beat them.
It's one of the most remarkable comeback stories ever.
This January 6, 2025, we're in charge and the regime lost.
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Congress is going to certify the Trump election, which is huge.
That is then, once it's certified, it is done, absent an inauguration, which is just awesome.
Now, why we have a two-week waiting period between certification and inauguration, I mean, I am an admirer of the Founding Fathers.
I would love for them to explain why we have that.
Maybe Blake can read it in one of the Federalist Papers why we have that kind of gap.
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Breaking news today, Justin Trudeau is resigning as Prime Minister of Canada.
Joining us now is Ezra Levant, a Canadian journalist and rebelnews.com.
Ezra, I kind of want to say congratulations because you guys have been investigating and criticizing this maniac and this lunatic for quite some time.
I have a couple different questions I want to talk about as regards to how this all works.
But first, walk us through this breaking news, Ezra.
Sure.
Trudeau has announced that he's resigning, but not till March 24th.
Now, he's resigning just days before he was having a caucus meeting where his own Liberal MPs were going to demand that he resign.
So he's preempting them.
But he's doing a sneaky move, Charlie, in a parliamentary system like Canada has.
In Parliament, that's our version of Congress, the ordinary MPs, members of Parliament, can vote no confidence and bring the government down and force an election.
So Trudeau has asked the Governor-General, that's the King's representative in Canada, to dissolve Parliament.
It's called proroguing.
So not only did Trudeau not really resign today, he's kicked the can down the road almost three months, but he's dissolved Parliament.
No House of Commons business can happen.
No bills can be passed.
No question period where people scrutinize the government.
But mainly, Charlie, he's not letting MPs have a vote of no confidence.
So in a way, he's suspended democracy just to give himself three more months of power and perks.
So I guess one cheer, not two cheers for three cheers for what happened today.
So, just walk through the process of why this took so long, and do you believe one of the reasons he is stepping down is this Western trend that is rejecting leaders like Trudeau, Harris, Biden, and that are going towards leaders like Maroney, Malay, that are going towards leaders like Bukele?
Like Trump and maybe even Polivare.
Do you think that is playing into Trudeau's calculus here?
Well, that's part of it.
The conservative leader in Canada is pretty good.
His name is Pierre Poliev.
He's pretty right-wing.
I mean, right-wing in Canada isn't quite right-wing in the U.S., but Poliev is excellent on economics and fiscal and monetary policy.
He's gotten a lot firmer on immigration.
Not Donald Trump firm, but better than any leader we've had in decades.
He's talked about replacing the woke culture in our military with a warrior culture.
And most importantly, in my mind, Charlie, Pierre Polyev has a Trump-like approach to partisan media.
He calls out reporters in real time.
He has promised to defund our state broadcaster called the CBC.
So I'm quite encouraged about Pierre Polyev.
I think the fact that he's strong and you know, you could say the phrase alpha male, that's sort of part of it.
But I think Trudeau has had so many scandals and so much corruption and he's been so badly behaved over the last months that his time was coming up.
I mean, Trudeau has been polling so low.
Last poll I saw put him at 16%.
And his party MPs are worried they're going to be wiped out.
So they were going to vote to kick him out on Wednesday, Charlie.
This is Trudeau just buying himself three more months and leaving on his own terms.
He was going to be fired on Wednesday.
Okay, so Ezra, I want to go back in time because we're recollecting on January 6th and how far we have come.
I think there's a similar type of moment that deserves recollection where you guys had your dark winter of the soul, which was the Canadian trucker incident, which if I'm not mistaken was three years ago or four years ago.
I can't quite remember.
February 2022. Okay, yes.
Three years ago.
No, no, no.
Thank you.
Similar type of time span where that, in my personal opinion, looking as an American into your country.
Seemed as if where you guys really turned a corner into Soviet-style totalitarianism.
Walk us through this, Ezra, how those events unfolded and how you guys never gave up.
It was the most important civil liberties moment in a generation in Canada.
All of our...
Federal political parties were think-alikes when it came to the lockdowns and forced vaccine mandates.
There was a no-fly list in Canada.
If you weren't jabbed, you could not fly.
You could not get on a ship.
In the second largest country in the world, you couldn't fly.
It was very authoritarian.
And we had a weak conservative, a name-only conservative leader back then who was cool with all this.
Who was there to fight for our freedom?
No professors, no media, no political party, independent truckers.
On their own started a convoy to Ottawa because they had been hit with a vaccine mandate, which is crazy.
Truckers are the most solitary workers other than maybe a lighthouse captain.
And to say that the truckers now had to get a jab to continue to work.
So all these truckers started this long convoy to Ottawa.
And it just grew and grew and grew.
And soon it was 100 kilometers long.
And people came out just to view it with their own eyes.
It was the first real thing they saw in a year because of all the propaganda.
And because it was sort of leaderless and it was self-funded and organic, people thought this is the first real thing and it started to embarrass Trudeau because they went to Ottawa.
Now Trudeau thought, uh-huh.
This is my January 6th moment.
I'm going to play the Democrat message track from January 6th.
These are violent, insurrectionists, domestic extremists.
He tried all that, but it didn't work because the truckers were completely peaceful.
They didn't storm any building.
They had bouncy castles and hot tubs.
Their niceness, their Canadian-ness shamed Trudeau and he was starting to lose face.
So then he pulled the emergency ripcord.
Justin Trudeau brought in martial law.
He declared a national emergency.
We didn't even have that on 9-11, Charlie.
This is the first time the law has ever been used.
And it put Canada under a form of martial law.
And he and his deputy, without any legal process, started seizing and freezing private bank accounts of anyone who they could find at this protest.
Hundreds and hundreds of families, suddenly when they went to the grocery store, their credit cards, their banks were frozen.
It was an outrageous violation of civil liberties.
And who knows how far he would have gone.
That was our moment.
And I think Canadians looked into the abyss and said, whoa, what has happened to us, the true north, strong and free?
And Charlie, if you look at the polls, that was when Trudeau started to fall.
And the two and a half, three years since then.
And so that was the most terrible and wonderful moment in my lifetime in Canada when ordinary grassroots people stood up to Trudeau and stood up to the regime media.
Charlie, all the media in Canada agreed with Trudeau on martial law.
They agreed with demonizing these ordinary truckers.
They wanted Trudeau to go further.
They were happy to write the script the same way the Democrats did on Jan 6. So it was a moment where ordinary people, I would use the word the proletariat, because these were grassroots, ordinary, unfancy people.
They stared down Trudeau.
Trudeau blinked and we are freer now because of it.
By the way, last point, I mentioned that back then Canada had a conservative in-name only leader.
of the Conservative Party, and he told his MPs, you're not allowed to even meet with the truckers.
Well, his MPs had a revolt, sacked him as leader, went to hang out with the truckers, and that's when the Conservative Party of Canada chose the real Conservative, Pierre Polyev.
So the truckers not only saved Canada from Trudeau, The truckers helped renovate and rejuvenate the Conservative Party, Pierre Polyev, who is set to have the biggest election win in Canadian history if polls hold up.
He is the party leader because of the truckers, Charlie.
So, Ezra, do you believe that this can be the beginning of a more robust, conservative, common-sense realignment?
Oh, yes.
And I look forward to Pierre Polyev and Donald Trump working together constructively.
Let's be honest.
Trump and Trudeau hate each other.
It is a mutual thing.
And that would be bad for both countries, especially bad for Canada because we're the smaller partner in the partnership.
But you put a thoughtful, Canada-first, freedom-loving, conservative in office in Canada and have him and Donald Trump have a heart-to-heart, you're going to get things done for both countries on trade.
On border control, on national defense, on foreign policy.
Trudeau is being pro-Hamas.
Pierre Polyev is not.
You're going to see our two countries become best friends again, Charlie.
I'm very excited about it.
I love it, Ezra.
I have another good follow-up question, so stay right there.
Plug your website, please, Ezra.
It's rebelnews.com.
We're based in Canada, but we do cover stories around the world that touch on freedom and censorship and globalism.
So check out rebelnews.com.
Thanks for the plug, Charlie.
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So Ezra, there's this talk of us combining forces, of Canada joining the United States.
Is that the craziest idea you've ever heard?
It's not.
I mean, listen, we used to be part of the British Empire together, so we do have a history.
It was called British North America, I think.
But there are some differences that I think some of the enthusiasts are missing.
First of all, a quarter of our country is French-speaking Quebecers.
I mean, we have bilingualism in this country.
That might complicate things.
Another thing is I think most Canadians would probably be Democrats.
Places like Alberta and Saskatchewan are more right-wing.
They'd probably go Republican.
But I don't know.
I think that you could see this as a new California.
Now, if we were to swap California, I'm joking.
Listen, I think that's a fun thing to talk about and to daydream about.
But the reality is, look, we actually have the world's longest undefended border.
Now, Trudeau has made that into a problem.
We're culturally very similar.
We have a tight trade relationship.
I think we have all the pluses of being one country with the pluses of being independent.
I think that Canada can become great again and can be sort of like Batman and Robin.
You guys get to be Batman because you've got 330 million people, but we're Robin with 40 million people, but we are two separate things.
I think getting Trudeau out of the way and getting back to common sense...
I really think we're going to be your greatest ally and we're going to work together on projects.
I think we create greater Montana and Alberta becomes part of the United States.
Am I correct in saying that's good right-wing territory?
Calgary, Edmonton, those are good folks up there, right?
And that's where all the oil is, 173 billion barrels of oil in Alberta.
And that's the thing.
I don't know how that could possibly be hit with a tariff.
I mean, that would be bad for America.
We sell most of our oil exports, in fact, almost all our oil exports to America.
And that displaces conflict oil from OPEC regimes.
We actually have a role to play in American energy security, which is why the Premier of Alberta, Danielle Smith, is going To Washington for the inauguration.
I don't know if you know that, Charlie.
But Trudeau has been AWOL on this whole cross-border tariff thing.
I think he wants to fight with Trump because he hates Trump.
But the premier of Alberta, that's the most conservative oil province, has been doing her best to keep the two countries friendly.
Danielle Smith is her name.
She's off to Washington.
And I think that she's got the right idea.
Keep the countries friendly.
Keep the oil and gas and other trade flowing.
Strengthen the border.
She's gone ahead and set up sort of a provincial National Guard kind of thing.
She's got drones and cops.
She's taking Trump seriously.
And I think she wants Canada and the U.S. to be best friends, as do I, as do I think most Canadians.
I don't think we want to join America, but we love visiting there.
And as long as we're on good terms and cooperating for freedom, I think everyone's a winner.
I love it.
Ezra, God bless you.
Thank you for all the work that you do here.
What are some big dates we should be looking forward in Canadian politics?
You mentioned the resignation of Trudeau.
What else?
March 24th is when he turns over the prime ministership to some other liberal lackey who's going to get crushed.
I think that's the big one federally, but we're watching January 20th because we're going to see what Trump does to Trudeau.
Is he going to put those tariffs in?
On April Fool's Day, Trudeau is jacking up the carbon tax, which is going to make us less competitive.
Compared to the United States, which doesn't have a carbon tax.
So, I don't know.
We're just waiting.
We're looking at our clocks and calendars, waiting till Trudeau leaves and we can get on with a freedom-oriented government under Pierre Poliev.
We'll keep you posted, Charlie, because, you know, Canada can be a laboratory for bad ideas, national health care, wokeism, but I think we can also be an inspiration for good ideas, and I hope we get back on that track.
Very good.
Ezra, thank you so much.
Canada has produced the greatest comedians of a generation.
It would be good to get back to that.
It's true.
The greatest comedians come from Canada.
It's a real thing.
It's the greatest export besides lumber, oil, and comedians.
Andrew disagrees.
And Nickelback.
And Celine Dion.
Take care, Charlie.
Thank you.
One of those is very talented.
Thank you.
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