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Sept. 11, 2024 - The Charlie Kirk Show

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The Showdown: Trump vs Kamala Presidential Debate Special

Charlie, Jack, Blake, Tyler, and Andrew sit down for a comprehensive 2+ hour stream right after the debate. They walk through the highlights, the sore spots, and all the breaking news taking place. Enjoy this special edition of The Charlie Kirk Show with the crew's instant reaction. Become a member at members.charliekirk.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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	Hey everybody, our instant reaction to the three-on-one debate, Donald Trump versus the world.
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	Okay, we have lots of opinions on that.
	President Trump navigated an ambush.
	That was a drive-by shooting, a one-on-three debate of moderators that were not supposed to be fact-checking but did, and didn't just fact-check, they did it incorrectly.
	From the fine people on both sides saying that there was no late-term abortion, the press is going to fawn over this.
	I'm telling you right now, the press is going to say Kamala Harris, big night, Trump did terribly.
	We have to brace for that, brace for impact.
	I do not think that is the truth of what happened here tonight, and we need to put on full display exactly what occurred tonight, which was a drive-by shooting, landmines, that was placed for President Trump.
	Blake.
	Charlie, I'm just doing Kamala Harris facial impressions.
	What was that all about?
	The very stage?
	They had to practice holding like this.
	All of that was very... Look, here's the thing.
	She's a performer.
	A prosecutor is a performance artist.
	We're going to be back in the chair live on Thursday, but we need to do a David Plouffe episode.
	What they did is they profiled Donald Trump.
	They found 20 triggers that they knew that President Trump was going to fall for.
	Rally sizes was the first one.
	And from that point forward, it was this sequence that went one after the other.
	She rehearsed her entire abortion thing that was full of nonsense about miscarriages, not being allowed to get treatment at hospitals.
	She made it overly emotional and then went against President Trump on that.
	Then, from the beginning, on the economy, we spent a lot of time on tariffs.
	Like, an unnecessary amount of time on tariffs.
	And it's very important to skip over all this fake emotionalism and get to the core essence that Kamala Harris is the current Vice President of the United States.
	She could have fixed so many of these things.
	She is the second in command of a historically unpopular administration.
	By every metric.
	And I think that could have been better displayed tonight.
	Put on display.
	For sure, for sure.
	Now, I agree with you, Charlie.
	They're going to frame it as a Kamala win, but I would say most of this event was upside.
	There was the possibility Kamala implodes and you're doing great.
	They were going to say she won no matter what.
	I don't think it's going to be a terribly big deal in the end.
	Yeah, I think this is going to be largely a wash.
	I mean, look, the talking heads aren't going to say, you know, Donald Trump, but whatever, ever.
	So here's the thing, is that this was a one-on-three debate.
	David Meir should be ashamed of himself.
	That was disgusting.
	And by the way, can we get a list of all the interjections?
	And then the other moderator woman, I don't know her name, but she doesn't deserve respect, but they were so... She's better than Meir.
	But I'm trying to just think off the top of my head.
	The worst for me, the worst for me was when he was on the Democracy stuff.
	Lindsay Davis.
	It was the Democracy stuff and he's just like, your campaign's legal advisor says that Donald Trump, he's not recognizing the election, it's a threat.
	How do you, do you?
	Or no, he's like, he's trying to rig the result or something or undermine the result.
	It's like, do you agree with that?
	So ridiculous.
	Do you agree with this huge softball attack on Trump?
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	I want to get our panel on this.
	Andrew, initial reaction.
	Yeah, no, I think I agree with Blake.
	I think this is largely going to be a wash.
	I predicted it before.
	The media is going to fawn over this.
	I think Kamala gave the media enough that they are going to say that she was poised and she was, you know, absolutely, I agree with the fact that the moderators were, it was three on one the whole time.
	I mean, all of Twitter X is basically saying that Climate change, guns, abortion, rally sizes, employees, democracy, the 2020 election.
	The point of the questions were all in Kamala's sweet spot and they were a setup for Trump.
	I would say Trump nailed it at the end.
	He finally got there where he said, you know, why haven't you done it yet?
	And that was essentially the entire debate.
	I wish he would have brought that up a little earlier, but at least he got it in that final segment.
	And that clip I think will do really, really well on socials.
	I would just say that it was a complete setup, a lot of intentional baiting and triggering.
	At the end of the day, I think When we talk about this electorally, this is going to be a wash.
	I don't think anybody is going to end up having a big bump from this.
	I think we're going to see this within seven days.
	We're going to move on to a new conversation, new narrative in the news.
	So yeah, and look, Tyler, I want to get your thoughts on this.
	It's very clear that Kamala Harris received the coaching from David Plouffe and her team.
	Her team found 20 potential psychological triggers for President Trump, and she used every single one of them.
	It was a sequence, one after the other after the other.
	What President Trump, in my opinion, should have done, and could have done an even better job of, is twist and have triggers against her.
	The one moment that I thought was very interesting, where she seemed a little bit off kilter, was when he called her a Marxist.
	She didn't quite look very comfortable there, and they just cut it off kind of completely.
	Tyler, your initial reaction here.
	Yeah, Charlie, Rush Limbaugh would have called this the drive-by debate.
	This was exactly what we talked about before we got on, was we knew that the setup here was not going to be the same as the last one.
	The last one was a pretty fair debate with the questions, so it went back and forth.
	This is why I said I was like, I'm really expecting this to be a complete setup where Going to ask him and berate him.
	And so the preparation has to be good.
	He has to look calm, cool, relaxed, untriggered, uh, about stuff.
	And, uh, you know, we just got attacked, uh, constantly.
	It was a three on one debate.
	And like, as we, as we said, but look, here are the positive takeaways from this is that, you know, there are many elements within this debate where Kamala looked uncomfortable.
	She laughed a lot.
	She smiled a lot.
	She sneered a lot, which just speaks to the way that she's uncomfortable in these situations and these environments.
	I don't think those were exposed as much as they possibly could have been.
	Like you said, Charlie, that there should have been some preparation to be able to lean into that.
	So once he was able to identify that, but when you're sitting next to a person, you're not able to totally comprehend Uh, the same way that the audience is looking straight on at her face.
	And so, you know, I think the takeaway here is in debate number two, which is going to be extraordinarily important.
	I hope it happens.
	Uh, is that she's going to be uncomfortable and, and president Trump has to remain focused on the very basics, which is what we've talked about here is that Kamala Harris has been part of a regime that has caused absolute chaos at the border.
	That has allowed for our economy to spin out after and in a post COVID world we have inflation like it's like crazy and that simplified message just has to be delivered over and over and over again in almost a very boring repetitious way.
	But with Trump being cool and collected and kind of the funny, likable self that he is.
	And I don't know if that all totally came through tonight.
	We'll see what the result is.
	But we've got our work to do to make sure that people hear that message, regardless of what the outcome of the debate is.
	Yeah, and so just remind me really quick that we need a primary James Langford.
	Like, how many times do I have to hear, oh, well, you know, you killed a bipartisan border bill.
	I mean, it is so nauseatingly ridiculous the damage that James Langford has done to this country by doing that.
	Totally obnoxious.
	No, I'm not.
	Totally uncalled for.
	Unnecessary.
	And so let's just kind of go through this.
	I want to play some tape here.
	This is President Trump on Kamala's flip-flopping.
	She has no policy.
	Everything she believed three years ago.
	I'm going to send her a MAGA hat if she ever got elected.
	She's a Marxist.
	I think he could have pressed on this even further.
	And it was an interesting type format because it was very clear that Kamala was not adequately prepared on the substance, but she was adequately prepared on her 1-2-3 dance moves and her 1-2-3 triggers to try to get President Trump upset.
	Rallies, crowd sizes, staff around.
	Let's play Cut84, please.
	I don't say her because she has no policy.
	Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window.
	She's going to my philosophy now.
	In fact, I was going to send her a MAGA hat.
	She's gone to my philosophy.
	But if she ever got elected, she'd change it and it will be the end of our country.
	She's a Marxist.
	Everybody knows she's a Marxist.
	Her father's a Marxist professor in economics, and he taught her well.
	But when you look at what she's done to our country, and when you look at these millions and millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly, where it's, I believe, 21 million people, not the 15 that people say, and I think it's a lot higher than the 21, that's bigger than New York State pouring in.
	And just look at what they're doing to our country.
	They're criminals.
	Many of these people coming in are criminals.
	And that's bad for our economy, too.
	You know, you mentioned before, we'll talk about immigration later.
	Well, bad immigration is the worst thing that can happen to our economy.
	They have, and she has, destroyed our country with policy that's insane.
	Almost policy that you'd say they have to hate our country.
	So Blake, you were commenting on her over-theatric response.
	It's so theatrical, like just within that clip, if people were watching Trump and stuff, you know, but she's just like, hmm.
	But honestly, like liberal women like that because they're so over the top.
	There's definitely a persona, you'll see this on TikTok or Instagram, the performative, like they talk like a TV character.
	Yeah, like they're on Friends.
	Yeah, not even on Friends.
	A lot of them will talk like they're the villain in a drama.
	I mean, you had an encounter with one of those people in that 25.
	They talk like a psycho.
	This shows they're fierce or they're tough or whatever.
	The show wasn't quite going that bad, but it was very...
	It felt very, yeah, like I said, theatrical, rehearsed.
	I think definitely the whole, like, put your chin in your hand and look really confused.
	They almost certainly coached her on that exact position.
	Oh, was it a kind of like, look like this?
	It was so fake.
	It was so nauseating.
	She did not start well.
	Once she got Andrew into her coaching, it was muscle memory for her.
	It's very clear she's done nothing but for the last two weeks, when A comes in, say B. And it did not help, by the way.
	Can we have a full list of all the fact checks?
	Moderators are not supposed to fact check debates.
	Not once did they fact check her.
	Not once did they fact check her.
	Yet at least three times on the top of my head, they fact-checked Trump.
	And the one that I just screamed at the television, where she said, well, it's not legal anywhere in the country to have late-term abortions.
	In nine states across the country, it is legal to execute your baby up until the point of birth and even post-birth, as articulated by the governor of Virginia.
	And so, yeah, Andrew, please.
	And Charlie, when she goes into the Verifying People hoax, they didn't even bother to fact-check that, even though that's been publicized far and wide after the first debate.
	It is debunked.
	It is totally false.
	So they were absolutely hit.
	They were selectively fact-checking that.
	Mr. Trump, you did something or said something that was absolutely terrible.
	Aren't you terrible?
	Donald Trump answers.
	To Kamala Harris, would you like to weigh in on how terrible Trump is?
	So this is the ABC playbook, moderators, Mr. Trump, you did something or said something
	that was absolutely terrible.
	Aren't you terrible?
	Donald Trump answers to Kamala Harris.
	Would you like to weigh in on how terrible Trump is?
	Thank you.
	I mean, that really is sure.
	Basically, the way this is, it was so bad.
	And I'm just thinking about my head.
	The late term abortion one is really what set me off.
	But there were three or four other ones.
	The other one with David Muir.
	We'll talk to you later.
	President Trump, do you want Ukraine to win?
	Excuse me?
	Like, excuse me?
	The two or three different follow-ups on, do you want Ukraine to win?
	He answered the question.
	We want peace.
	We want America to win, David Muir.
	We want this country to win, David Muir.
	And then when it came to him, they were like, oh, well, let's stay on the topic of the economy.
	And yet when there were topics that Kamala Harris didn't like, she would constantly change the topic and they would never regulate her and say that we are not on topic.
	Ever.
	Not once.
	It was obviously a one-on-three debate.
	ABC News completely in the bag.
	The most interfered-with debate in modern American history.
	With that being said, I would have liked to see President Trump to just... I would have liked to have seen a constant theme over and over again.
	An almost eye-rolling exhaustion.
	The one place of feedback I would like to see is, you're the Vice President right now.
	Do something.
	He tried to do that once, right, Blake, where he's like, why don't you go down to D.C.
	and sign a bill?
	But I don't think that really came across nearly as clear as it should have been.
	It was memorable in the sense he got the line of, you know, drag Joe Biden out at four in the afternoon.
	I thought that was entertaining enough, I think, reminding people.
	Simultaneously reminding people that she is a part of a brutally unpopular administration,
	that this administration is rudderless, and at the same time that she has like very little
	separation from Joe Biden at all. And I think he'll be spending the next few weeks reminding people of that.
	Yeah, let's play the clip, but first I just want to thank really quick...
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	Let's play the tape.
	What is it, Andrew?
	91.
	Play cut 91.
	I ask you this, you talk about the Capitol.
	Why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border?
	How come she's not doing anything?
	And I'll tell you what I would do, and I would be very proud to do it.
	I would say we would both leave this debate right now.
	I'd like to see her go down.
	To Washington, D.C.
	during this debate, because we're wasting a lot of time, go down to, because she's been so bad, it's so ridiculous, go down to Washington, D.C.
	and let her sign a bill to close up the border.
	Because they have the right to do it.
	They don't need bills.
	They have the right to do it.
	The President of the United States, you'll get him out of bed, you'll wake him up at 4 o'clock in the afternoon, you'll say, come on, come on down to the office, let's sign a bill.
	If he signs a bill that the border is closed, all he has to do is say it to the Border Patrol, who are phenomenal.
	If they do that, the border is closed.
	Andrew, the essence of what he's saying there is... I think we lost Andrew.
	Jack, your thoughts, actually.
	I want, Jack, your thought.
	Yeah, look, Charlie, I've never seen anything like this.
	At this point, it appears that President Trump has survived two assassination attempts in one campaign.
	One, of course, Being physical and the next one being political.
	Look, this was a hit job.
	This was three on one.
	This wasn't a debate.
	I don't care what anybody says.
	This, this was not a debate.
	This is not how debates are supposed to be run.
	This is not, this is like, Charlie, you just had the 25 on one.
	Now Trump has three on one.
	All right.
	If you are an American sitting out there trying to figure out which candidate to vote for, And you're trying to figure out who is going to be better served for your country, who's going to be better for your family, who's going to be better for your people, who's going to be better for the citizens of Springfield, Ohio.
	What David Muir and the ABC moderators did out there was completely insane.
	And it almost sounded as if Kamala Harris had the questions in advance.
	Because she had that prepared, canned answer to every single one that they gave.
	And whenever President Trump was talking, that's when they would go and they would attack.
	They would go on the offense.
	They would fact check him.
	Well, actually, sir, this happened.
	Actually, this happened many times.
	David Muir would even cut him off.
	as he was speaking, never once did it for Kamala Harris.
	So you see it over and over and over, and it creates this false perception,
	and then she starts laughing, she starts going along with it.
	So she never has to actually go on the offense because the moderators are doing it for her.
	It allows her to stay relaxed, and she's just reading from her script,
	she's just reading from her prepared statements.
	And this was a travesty, it was travesty for America, and it's really something that I think
	a lot of Americans deserve better.
	And you can see, by the way, the response online.
	There are people in the middle coming out saying, look, this was not a good debate for the American people.
	It was not a fair fight.
	I want to get to this here.
	This is ABC News on their own network saying Kamala Harris did not do a good job of explaining her own policy, which she didn't.
	It was all abstractions.
	And I thought, honestly, this is one of President Trump's best lines.
	He said, her entire platform is run, spot, run.
	Let's play Cut94.
	Vice President Kamala Harris did not do a great job today really explaining her policy shifts, right?
	And that is what they have been seizing on.
	They're really trying to define her for voters when voters have a lot of questions about her policy positions.
	I mean, she did not do a good job of that at all.
	And so, Jack, I want to ask, you're on the ground in Philadelphia.
	There's a lot of vibe there.
	A lot of independent voters were tuning in tonight, and they did not get a chance, I think, to actually get into any of the substance of the debate.
	The abortion part, I want to get this clip, it was such a travesty and a tragedy when that woman from ABC says, well, there's no place where there's late-term abortion.
	Kamala Harris, there's no late-term abortion.
	There are eight states across the country, according to Axios.com, how many times have I said this, Blake?
	Eight states, and they are New Mexico, Colorado, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, New Jersey, I think New York and Vermont, I think is number eight, we can get the exact list.
	California maybe?
	Yes, I don't even know if it's California yet, that have no restrictions whatsoever on abortion.
	Where you can bring the baby up to, and Donald Trump was excellent on the messaging there, and ABC took all of the air out of that.
	All of the air out of that.
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	Who do you think won the debate?
	Your reaction on this one-on-three debate of President Trump versus David Muir and two women, I don't know the other woman's name, Kamala Harris and the other one.
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	Blake, what are you seeing right now?
	I had a friend who pointed out to me, he said, What's so outrageous is where she's just able to rewrite her own narrative.
	She just says, like, I just want us all to get along.
	Kamala is involved in all sorts of bizarre race baiting, gender baiting.
	She was part of the whole attack on Justice Kavanaugh when it happened, during those hearings.
	She believed an egregiously false hate hoax by Jussie Smollett, which was not just, oh, she believed a dumb story.
	She believed a dumb story whose purpose was to vilify an entire political grouping, an entire race of people, basically a blood libel, essentially.
	And she's done.
	And then, of course, she was even saying, like, oh, I think she mentioned, you know, China was to blame for COVID, which in 2020, Kamala and everyone else was saying it was racist to even, like, say the word China in relation to the virus until lockdowns hit.
	She's just allowed to totally rewrite the past.
	The same way anytime Trump brought up, oh, you know, she opposed fracking, she wanted gun confiscations, she wants this radical left-wing economic stuff.
	There's never any moderator coming in to say like, oh, well, Kamala, you did say you wanted to do that.
	You know, we have you on tape endorsing this.
	You told the ACLU you were going to do this.
	Instead, she's just allowed to do her practiced facial expressions where she looks... It would just be so cringe.
	So cringe.
	I just... I refuse to believe that this creature can be allowed into the same office that Abraham Lincoln used.
	I refuse to believe it.
	Oh, Taylor Swift just endorsed Kamala Harris just now.
	That's great.
	Well, there you go.
	Inevitable.
	Well, she's still friends with Britney though, right?
	Or did she disavow Britney?
	With a photo of her cat, by the way.
	She's voting because of LGBTQ rights, IVF, and a woman's right to her own body for decades.
	Okay, yeah.
	I told my team I will not attack Taylor Swift, so let's stay focused on... We're gonna shake it off, Charlie.
	I mean, to be honest with you... We're gonna shake it off.
	That is quite a way to take the headlines off of Kamala Harris in the debate.
	I guess that's structurally a good thing, but from a media perspective, they couldn't have waited a couple days?
	Or I guess Taylor wanted to justify, oh, I saw a debate, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know?
	Yeah.
	I think it's not so bad.
	Like, it's going to take away some of the energy.
	I mean, it was inevitable.
	Like, they would have preferred to get a separate news cycle.
	So let's go to MSNBC.
	Nicole Wallace admits that the ABC News moderators were in the tank for Kamala Harris.
	Play cut 96.
	David Muir didn't hesitate to say, I went back and watched the tape, you didn't sound sarcastic to me when you said, I lost by a whisker.
	Kahnleier got Trump on three sides of whether or not he won in 2020.
	He said, I won.
	And then he said, I said sarcastically that I lost by a whisker.
	And then David Muir ended it by saying, no, that wasn't sarcastic.
	So what the American people heard was Trump on three sides of the outcome of 2020.
	And David Muir and Lindsay Davis played an important role in that.
	They played an important role in that.
	That's MSNBC.
	That's so disgusting where it's just like, oh, well, you said this.
	What do you have to say?
	And he says, I was sarcastic.
	Nuh-uh!
	No, you weren't!
	That's not an appropriate way to respond to it.
	You asked him about the quotes.
	That's his justification.
	You can go play the clip if you want.
	The media can debate it the next day.
	But your position is not to argue with Trump about whether he was sarcastic or not.
	Yeah, and Taylor says the main reason she's endorsing Trump is because of the whole AI thing where Trump said she endorsed him.
	That's not actually what he did at all.
	He was sharing AI images saying, I would welcome your endorsement, so on and so forth.
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	And Jack, it's hard to even frame this as a debate.
	It's hard for me to either say who won or lost when you have basically a Moscow-style show trial occurring in real time.
	That wasn't a debate.
	It was a struggle session by ABC News.
	Yeah, so this is a typical communist tactic, and you know, as folks know, I just wrote a whole best-selling book about how the media and the establishment and the institutions have been taken over by communists, and on humans, the secret history of communist revolutions and how to crush them.
	And this is specifically a tactic they use.
	They go to you and accuse you of committing a crime, and then they say, why will you not confess?
	Why will you not confess?
	Why will you not confess?
	And then they turn to Kamala Harris.
	Why is he not confessed?
	Why will he not confess to the things that he's done?
	Now, keep in mind, January 6th, just as an example, four years ago, yet no question about July 13th, what happened two months ago.
	It's a moral outrage.
	to not talk about these things.
	Or a couple, the fact that he went to the Arlington Memorial
	but she didn't, just, I mean, you could go through the numerous examples of this over and over,
	but it doesn't matter.
	The point is, it was intended to be a show trial.
	The only difference is when the Chinese Communist Party conducted Maoist show trials, they would do so
	in giant soccer stadiums with a gun to the back of your head.
	And if they could have, they would have placed a sign under Donald Trump's head calling him right-wing extremist and putting a dunce cap on him and having a crowd chanting, shame, shame, shame.
	That was what you just saw.
	This was not a debate.
	This was an attempt to put Donald Trump Trump is going to the spin room, I'm told, guys.
	So as soon as he hits the spin room, can we find that feed and do a concurrent stream, please?
	If that's possible, please?
	I have every network up right now.
	by all sides.
	Trump is going to the spin room I'm told guys.
	So as soon as he hits the spin room can we find that feed and do a concurrent stream
	please?
	If that's possible please?
	So I have every network up right now.
	So President Trump is going to the spin room.
	By the way, who actually believes Kamala Harris owns a gun?
	I would love someone to ask her.
	What's the model?
	By the way, just so we are clear, she probably doesn't.
	But her team said, well, why don't we just buy you a pistol or something?
	Say you're a gun owner.
	Say that both you and Tim Walz are.
	It was brilliant.
	Obviously coached.
	Obviously rehearsed.
	I really want them to ask her a basic thing.
	Kamala, we've brought this prop pistol.
	It's not a real gun.
	It's not an Alec Baldwin thing.
	Show us how you hold a gun.
	We've got a little model target here.
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	Taylor Swift endorsing Donald Trump.
	Endorsing Kamala Harris and not Donald Trump.
	Sorry.
	That's fake news.
	Taylor Swift endorsing Kamala Harris.
	Donald Trump going to the spin room.
	Tyler, what are you seeing and hearing here?
	This is hard to even judge as a debate.
	I see this being a temporary boost with some independence for Kamala Harris that will probably taper.
	The media's reaction here is going to be overwhelming.
	I thought President Trump stood his ground rather well, all things being considered.
	Tyler, your thoughts?
	Yeah, it's more of this is like, you know, all the Karens that already were supporting Kamala.
	This just gets them really excited type stuff.
	So like the female vote that already was there, you know, there just wasn't a lot of reason.
	I don't think that that was afforded with this opportunity.
	to kind of carve into the places where she leads.
	That being said, I agree that I don't think it's like a huge takeaway from Trump and where the places that he already leads.
	The big deal here for our election ahead of us is just it's a turnout game.
	So and this isn't a turnout game across all 50 states, it's a turnout game across basically four states at this point.
	And it's Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, that's probably going to be the defining factor in this election.
	So here's the deal.
	So if you're watching this, you know, the Taylor Swift thing is a toll set up, right?
	And that has negative impact with, you know, obviously getting young women out to vote.
	We got to be looking as conservatives and saying, OK, how are we going to get our base out to vote more?
	You know, we shouldn't be hiding under rocks.
	We shouldn't take away, you know, any negativity that happens, you know, with, again, these drive-by attacks from the media.
	And we need to find ways to organize our people.
	And the best way to do that is what we're doing at Turning Point Action, tpaction.com slash 100.
	You can sign up today, get 100 voters to chase.
	That's how we're going to win elections.
	We don't have to win elections in 50 states, we have to win elections in basically two out of the four.
	And you do that and you win, or you sit at home and you lose.
	So if you're pissed off tonight because you're watching this thing and you're looking at it and you're going, I can't stand the media.
	I know exactly what's going on here.
	I see everything that's happening.
	Commit yourself to leave your okay, deep red state or your deep blue state and come help us in Wisconsin and Arizona.
	And guess what?
	Kamala Harris loses.
	That's how this thing works.
	Look, this is going to come down to 50,000 votes in five states.
	Here's the thing.
	We as a movement do better when we are under attack and not when we are overconfident.
	After tonight, there should be no overconfidence, everybody.
	Kamala Harris took her debate prep Wheaties.
	And I'm not saying she won anything.
	I'm saying the media is going to say she won.
	This was not even a debate.
	This was an inquisition.
	But they're going to try to make this thing very, very close.
	They had the whole thing psychologically profiled.
	Rallies, McCain, former staff, one, two, right, Blake?
	It was as if somebody who had studied President Trump for a long, long time, and oh, I mean,
	goodness, the way she delivered the line was so fake, but it was so scripted where she
	said, I want everyone to watch a rally and President Trump, they start leaving early.
	There is nothing that bothers President Trump more than when people say that people leave
	early and that's well documented in a lot of different books.
	And he went right in on that.
	And again, it didn't help with all the moderators and all that.
	So I want to play this.
	This is President Trump's closing statement.
	I think it was his strongest moment of the night, where he made the case to the American people, right?
	I want to play the full thing, but first I want to thank Andrew, Hannah, Leanne, CJ, Kevin, Gene, Gail, Rodney, Ellie, and Shelby.
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	President Trump, So he just started by saying she's going to do this, she's going to do that, she's going to do all these wonderful things.
	Why hasn't she done it?
	She's been there for three and a half years.
	They've had three and a half years to fix the border.
	They've had three and a half years to Create jobs and all the things we talked about.
	Why hasn't she done it?
	She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together and do the things you want to do, but you haven't done it and you won't do it.
	Because you believe in things that the American people don't believe in.
	You believe in things like we're not going to frack.
	We're not going to take fossil fuel.
	We're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong, whether you like it or not.
	Germany tried that.
	And within one year, they were back to building normal energy plants.
	We're not ready for it.
	We can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad vision.
	But I just ask one simple question.
	Why didn't she do it?
	We're a failing nation.
	We're a nation that's in serious decline.
	We're being laughed at all over the world.
	All over the world they laugh.
	I know the leaders very well.
	They're coming to see me.
	They call me.
	We're laughed at all over the world.
	They don't understand what happened to us as a nation.
	We're not a leader.
	We don't have any idea what's going on.
	We have wars going on in the Middle East.
	We have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine.
	We're going to end up in a third world war, and it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons, the power of weaponry.
	I rebuilt our entire military.
	She gave a lot of it away to the Taliban.
	She gave it to Afghanistan.
	What these people have done to our country, and maybe toughest of all, is allowing millions of people to come into our country.
	Many of them are criminals, and they're destroying our country.
	The worst president, the worst vice president in the history of our country.
	President Trump, thank you.
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	President Trump should be going to the spin room unless my sources are wrong at any moment here.
	Then also, let's see, we have the Taylor Swift endorsement.
	A lot of news happening right now, Blake.
	This is the place to be.
	I also want to read the bottom of this.
	Taylor Swift signed her Instagram post as a childless cat lady.
	Man.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, she literally says, Taylor Swift signed Childless Cat Lady.
	Well, after Kamala's president, she might not have the cats much longer.
	Yeah, isn't this exactly, with all the Haitians, they're gonna eat Taylor Swift's cat.
	Taylor, they're coming after your cat!
	They'll just be like, I never—it'll be like, five years from now, it's like, I never thought this could happen when she expressly voted for the cat-eating party.
	Let me be very clear.
	The Haitians are going to eat Taylor's cat.
	That's going to get clipped out.
	They're going to.
	Every single one of them.
	That's going to get clipped out.
	I hope it gets clipped out.
	I want to deport Haitians to protect Taylor's cat.
	We should.
	We believe—we are principled people.
	We believe in protecting the cats of all Americans, even those who vote incorrectly.
	Yeah, no, I think that... Hashtag protect Taylor's cats.
	Can we get a tweet up going here?
	Deport Haitians, because Taylor deserves the right to have little Snickers, not be fried.
	Fried Snickers sounds pretty good, dude.
	Did they serve that at the Iowa State Fair?
	Is that a Haitian dish?
	Fried Snickers?
	I think deep-fried Snickers is a thing you can get at, you know.
	She named her cat Meredith?
	Meredith?
	That's insane.
	Whoa.
	Who gives their cats, like, human names?
	You name, like, Snickers or Frizz, you know, like... I feel like cats usually do have normal people names.
	Meredith.
	Dogs that have names like Buster or whatever.
	Okay.
	So she signed it as Childless Cat Lady.
	So we need to protect her cat by deporting the Haitians.
	People say don't attack the fact that it's named Meredith.
	Okay, whatever.
	Alright, so that's right there in our face.
	Tyler, your thoughts on the evening?
	Yeah, I mean, my key takeaway here is this is we just got to work harder.
	You know, this is just you're going to be in this position where we know that the media was going to be stacked up against us.
	I think the media was in a position with Biden where they couldn't, they couldn't do anything.
	Their, their, their hands were tied.
	And this is a total, again, Obama drive by situation here where, you know, clearly, you know, some people were saying that look like she had a earpiece in her right ear or whatever.
	It's, She's this this woman has been on the Obama debate diet.
	She has been just listening nonstop to Barack Obama.
	She's mimicking some of the his characteristics and debates.
	Yeah, they probably had her on a diet cleanse for the last three days, and just mentally focused.
	And when you're up against people who are doing that, you've got to be at the top of your game.
	It's not just President Trump that has to be at the top of this game.
	We have to be at the top of our game for get out the vote strategies.
	We have to make sure that we're talking to our neighbors and we have to get out absolutely every possible Republican vote that we can in Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Georgia, and of course Michigan and Nevada.
	But Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Georgia I think is where this election is going to land.
	And so we've got to do everything we possibly can to make sure that this thing We come out on top.
	And that's the way that you combat this, is if you're not feeling good about how the media is treating our president, President Trump, you got to get out work.
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	Taylor is pagan.
	I'm not attacking Taylor.
	I'm protecting her rights.
	We are protecting her cats, which she may have for witchcraft related purposes, but we will protect it no matter what.
	No matter what.
	That's right.
	Any others?
	That's what we have right now.
	Okay, let's go to some more tape here.
	I think we have this.
	Yeah, this is JD Vance and the Spinner in PlayCut 99.
	Donald Trump is right to call it out and Kamala Harris, like so many other issues, she has no way to explain why she's going to be better as president than she has been as vice president.
	It's her policies that cause the problem.
	She should have an answer to that.
	Senator.
	Senator.
	Yeah.
	Senator.
	Senator.
	Yeah.
	Senator.
	Yeah.
	Senator.
	Yeah.
	Senator.
	Yeah.
	Senator.
	Yeah.
	Senator.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	It's a little difficult to hear, and the camera is not the best.
	The show.
	Yeah, hard to kind of hear that.
	So, uh, the the other part that I think is very important that is being missed here was the topics that were barely discussed.
	And also, by the way, remember Donald Trump's fact check where they try to fact check on the FBI?
	That was appalling.
	It's objectively true.
	But President Trump was right.
	Yeah.
	And they just backed off.
	Yeah.
	Huge amounts of data were left out of that, including, like, just, some cities did not submit their murder data, and I'm gonna guess it's probably the more disordered ones that didn't catch up, because they changed their crime reporting standards.
	And even that framing, oh, crime is going down.
	Yeah, because crime went up a ton in 21 and 22, and 2020 because of a giant left-wing-backed,
	you know, reckoning, as they called it.
	So yeah, it's going down.
	It's also way higher than it was in 2017, 2018, or 2019.
	Period.
	And in some cities, it's still going up.
	In some cities, it's actually exploding right now.
	And for them to just frame it as, oh, well, actually, the FBI says crime is going down.
	It's just, it's revolting that they do this.
	It is insane that these people can call themselves journalists and behave this way.
	The essence that could have been better flushed out is Kamala Harris saying, I will fix things if you vote me into office, says the woman currently in office.
	Yeah!
	And that needs to be repeated ad nauseum.
	Repeated, repeated.
	Jack, what are we seeing online here?
	Jack, what are your thoughts to some people in the audience that feel as if Trump was so outnumbered, was so outgunned that, you know, this is going to impact the election a lot?
	Talk about how debates don't always impact election results and the need to get up the next day and keep working.
	Look, this debate comes at a time where the situation was close.
	It was already a close race.
	Remember, most national polls Had it within 2-3 points, or Trump was up a little bit here, Kamala was up a little bit there, but the swing states always come down to 50-50.
	Again, this is going to be a marginal election.
	And at the end of the day, I think most people have already kind of priced in where they stand on Donald Trump.
	One debate is not going to change people's opinions on Donald Trump because he's been, remember, he's been in the political eye now for a decade.
	People have made their decision and they've broken with this past view of that the mainstream
	media has any truth.
	And by the way, for a lot of the, think of the, think of the trajectory of this.
	So the media does this political struggle session with president Trump, the Maoist struggle
	session right at the time that so many independents have come around to waking up people like
	Bill Ackman, people like Sean McGuire, people like Elon Musk waking up to all of the mainstream
	media lies about Donald Trump, people like RFK Jr.
	Then they run into something like this.
	Guess what?
	This just confirms that the corporate media does, and by the way, it was the corporate media, and this is something that, I remember I said this after the last debate, so I'm gonna be consistent here.
	The corporate media ganged up on Joe Biden after the last debate, And I called that a political coup, and now they are attempting a political coup of President Trump.
	They are attempting to shape and define the election itself.
	So that's why it's going to fall to we, the people, the same way it always falls to we, the people.
	That's why I'm up here in Pennsylvania.
	That's why I'm going to be going across Pennsylvania all through September, all through October.
	We're doing the Get Out the Vote rallies.
	We're doing the ballot drives.
	We're doing the PHAs with Cliff Maloney, with Scott Pressler.
	Folks, It's going to come down to the ballots.
	The media is trying to shape the narrative.
	But if you don't do the ballots, by the way, we're not talking a lot.
	We're talking about if just 55% of the ballots were returned Let's go to Trump.
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	in 2024 than Trump's president, okay?
	Just 50%, we're talking about ballots that are already out, Republicans that didn't return their ballots.
	All you have to do is go and reach out to these people, and we're talking about maybe 100,000 people,
	but do you do that in terms of volunteers?
	One second, one second, one second.
	Trump is in the spin room right now, as predicted.
	Can we throw to that right now?
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	Thank you, thank you, Kylie.
	Whenever there's an audience, we know that the former president likes to be part of it,
	So he has essentially taken over and.
	And there is a scramble here on the spin room floor.
	Let's go to Jay O'Brien.
	I think you're right there in the middle of it.
	Jay, what's going on?
	Donald Trump has just walked into the spin room here.
	He's walking here.
	Mr. Trump, we're live on ABC News here, sir.
	Mr. Trump.
	I think he's about to talk.
	Here we go.
	So we thought it was our best debate ever.
	It was my best debate ever, I think.
	And we had a, it was very interesting.
	It showed how weak they are, how pathetic they are, and what they're doing to destroy our country and the border with foreign trade, with everything.
	And I think it was the best debate I've ever, personally, that I've had.
	We're getting polls that show 92 to 6.
	88 to 11.
	We're having a lot of great polls that just came out.
	There are polls, I guess, phone polls and lots of other polls, but you see the polls.
	A very important debate.
	Now, she wants to do another one because she got beaten tonight, but I don't know if we're going to do another one.
	I wouldn't mind.
	How did she get into your head tonight, sir?
	The polls are indicating that we got 90%, 60%, 72%, 71%, and 89%.
	So the polls are very good, but beyond the polls, I felt very good.
	I had a good time doing it.
	I hate to speak about our country so negatively, but that's what happened.
	They've ruined our country.
	They've destroyed our country.
	So, I hope you're all having a good time.
	But it was a very interesting evening.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	So confident you won tonight.
	Why are you here?
	Why not let the performance speak for itself?
	Well, I think it did.
	But people said, would I come here?
	And I made an obligation to a couple of people that I'm going to do their show.
	But it was a... I thought it was a great night.
	Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr. President, you talked...
	I have no idea.
	Mr. President, when Republicans are complaining about moderators, does that mean that it wasn't a good night?
	Were you not prepared?
	No, I thought the moderators were very unfair, but it basically was three on one.
	But I thought they were very unfair, the moderators.
	Everybody did.
	But despite that, they're saying that the debate was... Mr. President, is the president prepared for that kind of debate?
	Yeah, I assume the moderators would be bad because that right there is the worst of all the news networks, in my opinion, and it always has been.
	Yeah.
	Why won't you commit to a second debate with Kamala Harris?
	She wants a second debate because she lost tonight very badly.
	So they immediately called for a second debate because they lost.
	So we'll, you know, think about that.
	But she immediately called for a second.
	Look, we're looking at polls.
	We're looking at polls.
	The worst poll that we've had was 71 that I see.
	71% to like 24 or 25 or something.
	Get out of the way!
	Get out of the way!
	That's the truck I'm after.
	Alright, wait. So if you still have me, he's walked a little bit away from us.
	Is there another feed we can take, guys?
	You won't be able to hear him well, but one of the things you did hear was a question just asked by our...
	Did ABC just cut him off again?
	They just cut him off again!
	He's on Fox right now.
	He's on Sky News right now.
	He's on ABC, sort of.
	He's on Newsmax.
	This was very smart of him to do.
	Objectively smart.
	Get back in the arena.
	Get the cameras on you.
	Get on message.
	Oh, by the way, they're eating the dogs is also trending on Twitter.
	That's what he said in the debate, actually, right?
	If we can find another feed, guys, that'd be great.
	But for the record, they're eating the cats, not the dogs.
	Cats and dogs living together on the dinner plate.
	He said he said they're eating the cats.
	They're eating the dogs.
	I mean, I'd love to get another feed up here, but I think that, you know, people seeing President Trump Just seeing very nonchalant being up there and able to be surrounded by media talk the way that he is show projecting calm.
	You know, I think it's it does a lot to kind of push back on I've seen some of these completely wild takes on Twitter people being like all doom and gloom and they're just blackmailing out there for really no reason whatsoever.
	And then He just walks right out there.
	Hey guys, how you doing?
	Yeah, you having a good time with the debate?
	Yeah, it was three on one.
	It was very, very biased, very, very unfair.
	But again, he's willing to show that he's right there.
	And so why does she want another debate so bad?
	She wants another one very quickly.
	All right, we'll see about that.
	By the way, he was the one who proposed more debates early on, not her.
	She was the one who wanted to trim this to one debate.
	Now she is potentially talking about another one, but he proposed, I believe, three when we originally went into all of this.
	The idea that he has any worry about having a debate, it's ridiculous.
	It's actually the opposite of reality.
	And of course, ABC, like you said, cut him off the same way that ABC was cutting him off all night.
	Oh, we can't get our microphones there.
	Yeah, all of your microphones are there.
	Again, this is a time where people have to just look at it and say, you know what?
	This is an election that we're in.
	It was never going to be an easy election, okay?
	Someone took a shot at President Trump, alright?
	By the way, when he brought that up, he was cut off by ABC, cut off by David Muir, and he was... The next question never came up.
	And by the way, how disgraceful.
	Not even a question about him getting shot by the ABC.
	So we have J6.
	J6, which is four years ago, but not J13, which was less than two months ago.
	Like, how can you bring up one without the other?
	We have one of the most horrific acts in global history.
	It's just exhausting.
	Sorry to cut you off there, Jack.
	We're trying to get another feed.
	Donald Trump is live in the spin room right now.
	Okay, David.
	Yeah, exactly.
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	President Trump is just walking around right now, and yeah, it's hard to kind of even hear him in the spin room here.
	Boy, that was a corporate media drive-by.
	In the Great Rush Limbaugh, right Tyler?
	That was a drive-by shooting by the corporate media.
	You know, I think people usually think of CNN as really biased or the Washington Post, but really, I think the true bastions of some of the most outrageous bias are just old-school network news, those people.
	And they don't get as much attention because they're not doing 24-hour news cycles every single day, but there are some nasty people at those.
	It's sort of, who's the guy who runs The Onion now?
	I don't know.
	I can't remember his name.
	What about Ben Collins?
	Yeah, Ben Collins.
	He was at NBC.
	Just a guy at NBC News.
	And he was mentally unbalanced, man.
	That guy was on Twitter having mental breakdowns every day.
	Easily one of the most biased reporters ever.
	And also one of the least funny people ever.
	So now he's off running The Onion.
	And, well, I haven't seen any Onion articles linked lately.
	So Tyler, your thoughts on the drive-by media and that term from Rush?
	Drive-by media did a drive-by debate tonight.
	It should have been expected.
	I mean, honestly, this should have been the entire debate prep was knowing that that was coming.
	The last debate, the left looked at, if you just read through Twitter, the last debate, the left thought that they didn't go after Trump enough.
	They didn't spend too much time on Trump.
	You know, and it was a pretty balanced and fair, actually fairly conducted debate.
	And that's part of the reason why Trump Yeah, exceeded expectations, I think beyond even what most people, most pundits came into the last debate.
	And so, you know, you look at this one, I mean, this was just like incessant, you know, in real time fact checking, that should have been expected.
	You know, I think, personally, and again, we could talk about this here.
	But I would like to see Trump call the media a little bit more.
	I think the preparation should say, hey, what is this?
	You guys are all ganging up against me.
	And I think just saying a couple more of those lines would have been also clipped a lot, because I think that would have framed the entire debate and then sunk it.
	The media hates it.
	When Trump has done that in the past, Fox News hated that when he did that with Megyn Kelly.
	And so, you know, I think he should have done that.
	Just like in a very specific way, and I don't think he needed to repeat it multiple times, but I think just saying it once would have gone a long way.
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	Taylor Swift's post has 2.5 million likes so far.
	She's disabled all the comments, though, as she has now officially endorsed Kamala Harris for the presidency.
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	Yes.
	We have our own good ones.
	One, we have Blake Thinnis.
	I'm not sure how to say that, unfortunately, but they are a comment.
	They say, Omaha loves you, Charlie.
	So we've got that.
	And then also, I want to flag, this is a good comment from our new ally, RFK Jr.
	He tweeted this during the debate.
	Vice President Harris sounds like she just admitted the COVID virus originated in a lab That was one of the conspiracy theories the Biden-Harris administration censored on the internet with the collusion of big tech, of course.
	So just a reminder of the stakes and a reminder of one of the many things that these moderators could have, you know, followed up with Harris about if they weren't too busy teeing up the next softball about Trump.
	Okay, let's play some more tape here from the debate, and also we're going to be linking arms with Real America's Voice sometime soon.
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	I want to play some more tape here.
	Do we have a cut sheet here just from some of the ones tonight?
	Let me see here.
	I'm trying to scroll up.
	So much breaking news here.
	President Trump goes to the spin room.
	So many things happening.
	Let me see.
	I have a question.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	So I saw a bunch of people saying, And Cernovich had tweeted, you know, it's so bizarre that she has these very detailed answers to questions, like the 80,000 Poles living in Pennsylvania, which, by the way, as a Pennsylvania Pole, yeah, I'm definitely not voting for you.
	And none of the Polis people I know in my family or the others, like at the Czestochowa Festival last weekend, are definitely not voting for you.
	But, you know, this really canned familiarity with the questions.
	And it leads me to think is perhaps, perhaps, Perhaps we've got the script inverted.
	Did ABC give Kamala questions or did Team Kamala give ABC the questions?
	I mean, I can't get over how directly on point they seemed the entire night.
	Okay, so now this gives me hope.
	Everyone's just got to calm down.
	How many times have I seen this?
	The front page of the Drudge Report.
	The end.
	The walls are closing in.
	Are we allowed to livestream right now with Fox News?
	Are we allowed to take it?
	Andrew, what are the rules with that?
	I don't know.
	We'll clip it.
	Why don't we clip it?
	Let's do clipping.
	I want to be legal here.
	Jack, can you read the quote from Tim Miller?
	Tim Mueller from the Bulwark, and I believe he's in the spin room just across town here in Philadelphia.
	And Tim says, just spoke with Lindsey Graham, Senator Lindsey Graham in the spin room, and he said the debate team should be fired and Trump was unprepared, in quotes, disaster.
	So that's Tim Miller.
	He's like a never-Trumper-turned-liberal-type guy.
	Snarky.
	Look, here's the thing.
	Kamala Harris, this is all she focused on for a couple weeks.
	She didn't want to talk about anything else.
	She didn't want to do anything else.
	This is all she wanted to think about.
	And she had her sequencing.
	They trained her, if you hear A, do B.
	Try to go to your 1, 2, 3 attack lines.
	Again, rallies, McCain, former staffers.
	Rallies, McCain, former staffers.
	And she was playing offense almost all night, where I would have liked to see Donald Trump How many times have we seen this?
	Have we seen this play?
	How many times we need to say, we need to play... Donald Trump is the best offensive figure and he's not the best defensive figure.
	He's at the best when he's litigating the case, prosecuting the case, not when he's receiving it.
	He's kind of like a soccer team with 20 forwards and no goalie.
	No, that's well said, yes.
	That's right.
	Can we get the Drudge Report thing up here, by the way?
	This is how I know everything's going to be okay.
	Everyone should calm down.
	I'm going to tell you when to worry.
	I've got to put on the Rush Limbaugh hat now, because Rush is not with us.
	Take a deep breath.
	This is not a game changer.
	Everyone's freaking out, oh my goodness.
	At least on Drudge.
	Again, people in my world are not freaking out.
	But Drudge says, the end, in a picture of Donald Trump with a bunch of ducks and cats.
	Can we get the end up on screen?
	They say this is it.
	The night Trump lost it all.
	This is not correct, okay?
	That's not an accurate depiction of at all what happened in this debate.
	Do we have Donald Trump on Hannity right now?
	Are we able to do picture-in-picture?
	Yes?
	Let's turn up the audio here.
	This is live President Trump.
	And she's done a terrible job as vice president.
	And look, she's the worst vice president we've ever had.
	Keep our mics on, everybody.
	The worst border ever in the history of the world, not just in our country.
	I would have liked to seen a price gouging mentioned.
	We didn't get that, did we?
	They're destroying our country.
	I'm very aware.
	And if we look at her tax plan, which is, okay, price gauging or gouging, and the largest tax increase not only in American history, but world history, her campaign is saying tonight, Washington Post is reporting, that she wants a second debate.
	What's your answer?
	Because she lost.
	She wants it because she lost.
	Do you have an answer?
	Well, I don't know.
	I have to think about it, but if you won the debate, I sort of think maybe I shouldn't do it.
	Why should I do another debate?
	She immediately said, we want another.
	You know what happens when you're a prizefighter and you lose?
	You immediately want a new fight.
	You want a rematch.
	You want a rematch.
	The guy that won is sort of happy and thinking about it.
	Would you be inclined to say yes?
	Maybe if it was on a fair network, I would do that.
	But I think let Hannity moderate it.
	Yeah, no, I think that would be fair.
	Like I did Newsom and Ron DeSantis.
	That would be fair.
	You would be fair, actually.
	I would be fair.
	You want to know the truth.
	I'd let you both talk.
	I'd let you go at each other.
	I thought they would be fair.
	They weren't.
	But I felt very comfortable.
	We have the best policy.
	She has no policy.
	You know one thing that interested me because I've known you for a long time and one of the things that I was watching in you tonight is that you were just You are all business.
	You know, a lot of times when you're at your rallies or we do a town hall, they're destroying our country.
	Is that what it was?
	Is it the seriousness of the moment?
	There's nothing to smile about.
	You know, I'm a good smiler, but there's nothing to smile about.
	They're destroying.
	We have 21 million people that have been released into our country,
	and many of them are criminals and terrorists and people from mental institutions.
	Lachlan Riley, Rachel Lauren, Jocelyn Nungarian.
	All dead.
	You know, it feels like Sean is getting Trump.
	You've met the families of Afghanistan.
	that even we've mentioned on this feed, but she would have brought up.
	So it's a good opportunity to sort of close the loop on stuff.
	You've met all the families.
	She met the families of Afghanistan.
	Nungari.
	I met, I met.
	You met Nungari, sir.
	Yeah, I met five or six of them.
	Not even talking about the 13 soldiers that were killed in Afghanistan,
	the families of the 13 soldiers, which Biden won't even talk to.
	And he's the one that caused their death, just as if he had a pistol in his hand.
	He and her caused their death.
	Just as if literally they had a gun in their hand.
	It's pretty amazing.
	When you're in a situation like that, what is going through your mind?
	What goes on behind the scenes?
	How do you prepare for your debates?
	Well, I think you sort of... I always say I've been preparing all my life for these debates.
	You know, you can't go in like she did.
	She goes into a room and she memorized lines, more or less.
	I thought I got one cute one.
	I'm talking when I said... I'm talking when she started interrupting me.
	Well, she said that to Mike Pence.
	I'm speaking... I wanted to get even for that.
	You know, that was not very nice what you did.
	But no, I thought it was... We're getting great reviews.
	It's interesting that the one thing, one line that really stuck out that did make me laugh out loud is when you said you're gonna send her a MAGA hat.
	There are a lot of positions now, all of a sudden she's come over to your side.
	She's been against the border wall, she's been against... There's only one problem.
	If you have a one immediately from the day after that election, everything would go back
	to confiscate your guns and forget about oil and everything else.
	You know, they were cutting back on oil way back.
	They got rid of Anwar, the biggest oil site, perhaps, in the world in Alaska.
	They did things that are so bad and so destructive.
	But energy prices started doubling up.
	And she immediately went back to the Trump plan.
	But I would have been now four times higher than they are right now because that was three and a half years ago.
	Right.
	When she cut it, she cut everything out.
	She went to wind and went to all this other stuff that doesn't work from an economic standpoint and even a visual standpoint.
	I don't get the wind.
	You take these gorgeous plains and deserts and all this stuff.
	They put these windmills up, they go up like a 30-story building in some cases.
	They destroy everything, they cut out all, and the environmentalists say, aren't they
	wonderful?
	But it's the most expensive form of energy and it's never going to do for our country.
	So if we look at the issues on the economy, on immigration, on law and order, on energy,
	and America's role in the world.
	Yeah.
	Is there anything you could point to that you would say they have been successful on?
	No.
	They have been unsuccessful in everything.
	And even the economy, I said, as part of the economy, you've let 21 million people, more than that, I think, with all the gotaways.
	By the way, we're not terrorists, and we do have the murders and the rapes and the violent crimes.
	Oh, and you haven't seen anything yet.
	When do you see it in the months to come?
	You know what scares me, and I've said this on the air, is by having open borders, unvetted illegal immigrants, that I don't think it's a matter of if, I think it's a matter of when that this country is going to be attacked.
	If you look at Springfield, Ohio, look at what's happening there.
	You look at Aurora in Colorado, these beautiful little towns and little cities, small cities.
	They're being taken over by illegal migrants.
	I mean, the people that poured in, and they have weapons like our military doesn't have.
	You know, they have AK-47s.
	They have weapons like our military doesn't have.
	And, you know, some sheriff in one of these towns... Members.CharlieKirk.com Cut out of that, guys.
	Look at all those new hats that Daisy just brought in.
	I want to thank Look, you guys are going to have to withstand a lot of propaganda right now.
	There's going to be a hurricane, a whirlwind of propaganda.
	It's more important than ever for you to take a deep breath.
	For you to know that it is the boring stuff that will determine this election.
	A rigged debate will not win or lose this election.
	Kamala Harris is gonna raise a bunch of money off of this.
	The media- I have all the networks up, by the way.
	I have every network up right now.
	The CNN's doing a focus group.
	It's not gonna go well for Trump.
	I can tell you right now.
	CNN focus group.
	Whatever.
	Gotta fight through it.
	Gotta push through it.
	Gotta navigate through it.
	And the question is then, what do you do?
	You have to then work out of a place of, hey, we got to play offense.
	We have a better candidate.
	We have a better message.
	And that Kamala Harris rehearsed a bunch of lines that were designed for the exact intent to try and provoke Donald Trump.
	Jack, let's go back in the Wayback Machine.
	The first debate back in 2020 was not Donald Trump's best, was not his best moment.
	Despite all of that and what we were up against, not a great debate, COVID, race riots, Floydapalooza, we fell 42,000 ballots short in 2020, Jack.
	If anyone thinks that all of a sudden that this is going to have a major impact on the race, it will only if you allow it to happen.
	Jack, your thoughts.
	Yeah, look, this was not 2020.
	This was not that first debate in 2020.
	Of course, we all remember that.
	We remember that moment about Hunter Biden that just didn't go well.
	And then, of course, we also remember the debate in 2020 when what was it that made President Trump upset in that debate?
	Again, It was the moderators.
	And at that time, it was the fact that they were fact checking him over the Hunter Biden laptop, that they were not letting you get the truth out about what happened there.
	They weren't letting him talk about the Biden corruption, again, all of which came to be true.
	And of course, they know That this is something that President Trump does not like.
	He doesn't like when they cut him off, and by the way, nobody likes this.
	Who wouldn't be upset when you have somebody cutting you off and then lying to you and not letting you, and their job is supposed to be the referee, their job is supposed to be, again, to moderate between the two candidates, but we didn't have a moderation here.
	What we had was an assault on one candidate where the other candidate is given a free lane
	to walk down into the end zone.
	Totally rigged, goes beyond what this was.
	It was a struggle session.
	They left a clear open path for her to walk all the way through
	while he's facing attacks from her, attacks from them, being cut off left and right,
	et cetera, et cetera.
	And so, you know, people wanna talk about, oh, this is 2020, excuse me, number one,
	It's not 2020 in the sense that this wasn't anywhere near that debate.
	It's also number two, it's not 2020 because Democrats don't have their magic wand of the COVID ballots anymore.
	The ballot processes are there in many states.
	But guess what?
	It's not as it's not comparable to where the operation they had in 2020.
	They don't have the soccer box.
	They don't have a lot of the things they had going for them.
	And oh, by the way, you've got organizations now like turning point action, action, action.
	You got the VHS with Cliff Maloney.
	He and I got into it with And so we are fighting fire with fire, and they know that they don't even have the numbers.
	Just go look at the numbers, folks.
	And Scott Presser, of course, he, I believe, and Cliff are having a debate watch party right now
	over at the Philly Expo Center.
	And so we are fighting fire with fire, and they know that they don't even have the numbers.
	Just go look at the numbers, folks.
	They are down from where they were at this point in 2020, and they're gonna have to do a lot of work to catch up
	with their mail-in ballot, with their absentee ballot program.
	Meanwhile, Republicans in all of the swing states of the work that's being done in Pennsylvania,
	Charlie, the work that you're doing in Arizona, the work that Tyler is doing across the country,
	that we're all doing across the country, it's making an impact.
	And that's how the race is won or lost.
	Remember, it was the Democrats that threw this thing into a ballot collection process, not us.
	We said we didn't want to do this, but now here we are.
	And guess what?
	We're playing your own game and we're going to beat you at your own game.
	I think that's really well said.
	Andrew, we haven't had a chance for you to chime in for a little bit.
	This is information warfare, and it's three-on-one.
	A lot of moderate voters are seeing the corporate media for who they are and what they believe.
	Andrew, your thoughts?
	Yeah, I mean, there's a great clip coming out from Ron DeSantis.
	Maybe our team can grab it.
	He, you know, he was just straight upset.
	This was a three-on-one debate.
	I think that's absolutely true.
	And the soft brains out there are going to take this in the mouth breathers and be like, ah, Trump won, Trump lost, Trump lost, Kamala won.
	I'm telling you, I've been polling people.
	I've been texting people.
	Zero movement from anybody.
	Even the Democrats were like, eh, it was a little bit phony.
	I thought she did well.
	The Republicans are like, oh, Trump maybe missed a few moments to hit her where it hurts.
	But, uh, like his policies are obviously better for America.
	A couple of my friends that were undecided, they said, I didn't even watch the debate.
	That was my two answers I got.
	So, uh, and there's a clip that we're going to be pulling as well.
	Uh, that's the panel that one of the Nets did on undecided voters.
	None of them moved.
	Okay, so let's go back in time to and by the way, I totally think Trump should take the second debate if given the opportunity.
	I think he totally should.
	I think his approach tonight is totally fine.
	It's like, hey, listen, let me look at the rules.
	Let's get the rules right.
	Let's get the network right.
	Let's get the moderators right.
	After tonight, that is all the more important.
	But I totally think he should take the Build on this and he will have a great performance in debate too.
	Um, so I think I'm, I'm team take, take the second debate.
	Absolutely.
	Um, so I would just say this isn't going to move the needle.
	And if we look back to 2020, where everybody said he lost this first debate, then it came back stronger.
	So I would say this, and he was down nationally in the national polls, according to the pollsters at the time, four points on the averages.
	Still came 42,000 ballots short to Jack's point.
	We have augmented the GOTV part of this race significantly since then.
	There's lots more people out in the field, lots more full-time paid staffers, professionals trained up using better technology, better data than we ever had in 2020.
	42,000 ballots, We are tied, if not up, according to New York Times, Sienna.
	We've retaken the enthusiasm advantage.
	A lot of the models have Trump up.
	We never had any of that in 2020.
	There is a lot on this board that is very, very positive.
	The people are fed up with the Biden-Harris economy.
	Everyday people going to the grocery store is a walking ad for President Trump.
	We can't forget, structurally, How much we have the wind at our back in this election.
	And so a couple of things.
	Don't think it's going to move the needle.
	Don't think it moved undecideds.
	I think RFK's endorsement moved way more people who were in the middle, in the squishy middle.
	And I think take the debate.
	I think Trump's going to absolutely smash if he gets another chance.
	I think that's exactly right.
	By the way, we're five minutes from a rejoin with our great friends at Real America's Voice right now.
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	Harambe?
	We got Denise earlier.
	Do you think we'll get her brother?
	I'm not sure.
	This is MSNBC asking undecided voters to react.
	Again, we're anticipating this, so brace for impact.
	Play Cut 100.
	Absolutely, because he was intentionally sensationalizing and giving false information, essentially disinformation.
	Is that an issue that motivates the two of you?
	Is that going to make you want to vote for perhaps Kamala Harris, Vice President Harris?
	It's an important factor.
	There's just so many other things that concern me more.
	I can't say that that's my top.
	That's not my top.
	So that was on the abortion topic.
	Right, Jack?
	I mean, that doesn't seem like a slam dunk, right?
	You were preparing me for Race for Impact.
	I'm like, this was the primed MSNBC undecided voter.
	You would think that that's the person who's going to be like, look, you know, the abortion thing is very concerning to me.
	Reproductive rights are very important.
	I want to preserve them for my daughters, my granddaughters, whatever.
	And she didn't say that.
	She said, yeah, it's important, but there's other important issues.
	And one huge thing here is you got to say that.
	I will also point out that Kamala Harris is a very strong abortion.
	President Trump's best answers of the night all had to do with war and foreign policy.
	Kamala Harris, I just have to say this, by the way.
	Kamala Harris stood on the side of the warmongers.
	She repeated George W. Bush, Dick Cheney talking points up there.
	She repeated talking points that we haven't heard since the days of it.
	She sounded like Nikki Haley.
	She sounded like Nikki Haley.
	She sounded like Dick Cheney.
	She sounded like Hillary Clinton.
	And this is why we were told earlier before the debate that she talked to Hillary before she went in.
	This is endless war.
	This is nuclear annihilation.
	This is your kids and your soldiers being killed.
	This is Abbey Gate all over the world again and again and again.
	But the biggest thing is that even though Trump was best on that, we didn't hear a lot of talk about the economy tonight, did we?
	And that's the number one issue.
	ABC knew that the economy is the number one issue, the economy is the best issue for Trump, and I would argue and submit, by the way, that they deliberately shaded the debate so they could get into all of these other things rather than really focus on the economy, which is going to be the driver for the election.
	Yeah, and I want to be clear.
	The first part on the economy on tariffs lasted about 10 minutes.
	And there really wasn't a clear winner, right, Blake?
	It was just kind of back and forth.
	The abortion was the second topic.
	I think we got a little too weedsy on abortion.
	The moderators were very, very unfair on the abortion topic.
	I'm so annoyed with that answer where they say, I think Trump was very sensationalist on that question.
	No, Trump was totally accurate.
	There are states where this is legal through birth.
	The governor of Virginia has said, keep it legal through birth.
	Tim Walz changed Minnesota's laws to make it so you were not nearly as legally exposed if you have a born-alive child and a botched abortion and it dies.
	This is true.
	And then he's sensational but not Kamala who's just like, your nine-year-old will be raped and have a miscarriage and you won't be allowed to treat it because Trump is going to helicopter in.
	It's just this shrill insanity.
	When Trump's position is, the states can vote on this.
	But Blake, let me, and not necessarily play devil's advocate, but you remember how you were talking earlier about how she talks like a TV character, right?
	This is the false reality that so many voters live in because of Hollywood.
	And we actually wrote about this in the book, that this is the fried mental model that people have of red states.
	When you talk about like Alabama, Arkansas, or Texas, or Mississippi, or Louisiana, they actually believe that's what goes on in red states.
	They actually believe these things.
	This is the Handmaid's Tale, this is all that stuff.
	So, you know, you and I can sit here and say, oh, it's crazy, and it obviously is, but again, they don't believe that stuff because they have no clue what goes on other than what they see in Hollywood, versus they have no idea the fact that in Oregon, abortion is legal up to seven months.
	It's on the books right now.
	This isn't even just some hotline thing.
	Up until birth is New Mexico, period.
	So this is what they have no idea what goes on in red states and they don't know the truth about what goes on in
	blue states.
	So unfortunately, there's a reason that she say that Trump stuff seems, you know, seems theatrical and spectacular.
	But Obama, yeah, Kamala's doesn't.
	Sorry, I'm doing a David Muir.
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	Ryan wants me to play Cut 101 saying that this woman listens to Charlie.
	Was this on CNN?
	Was this a CNN focus group?
	Did she mention us, Ryan? Or she just listens to our talking points?
	You're telling me for the first time.
	Oh, our talking points? Okay, play cut 101.
	What did you see that brought you to a conclusion?
	I think it's important to remember that we are voting for the leader of our country
	and not who we like the most or who we want in our wedding party,
	but who is actually going to make our country better.
	And we're in an incredibly unique situation where we've had both of the candidates in office before and we've gotten to see what they would do.
	And when facts come to facts, my life was better when Trump was in office.
	The economy was higher, inflation was lower.
	Things were better overall, and now with Kamala's administration, things haven't been so fantastic.
	And she's saying she can fix the problems that her administration has caused, but I just don't know if I can afford to take that risk.
	I want to find this woman and send her a signed hat.
	Wow.
	That's an undecided voter.
	What a great line.
	That's an undecided voter after the debate.
	Andrew, according to the media, you think that there wouldn't be anybody like this.
	Andrew, that's very powerful.
	That is on CNN saying that, you know, my life was better under Trump.
	She said it better than I think anybody else did tonight.
	Your thoughts, Andrew?
	Well, and this is why we have to get out of our heads about this a little bit.
	I'm telling you, every trip To a grocery store is a free Trump ad.
	Every trip to fill up your tank is a free Trump ad.
	When we have Frontline's reporters from Turning Point USA in Springfield, Ohio today,
	and they're complaining about how they can't afford rent, how migrants have taken over all the facilities they can't.
	They can't get social services.
	They can't get Medicare, Medicaid cards, or whatever it was.
	Their insurance rates are going through the roof.
	I'm telling you, all of these things add up so much more than any spin you're gonna see tonight on ABC, CNN, MSNBC.
	And we knew this going in that we're all gonna say that Kamala won.
	We predicted that in the pre-show.
	And it's everything that we're seeing though, anecdotally, after the fact from real voters,
	people that actually have a say in this election, they're saying, yeah, it doesn't change my vote.
	I don't know if I can afford to do this.
	So listen, did Trump have his best night?
	I don't think so.
	Did he totally blow it?
	Absolutely not.
	Did he land a couple of punches?
	A hundred percent.
	Are so many people's minds made up across the country based on their lived experience?
	Absolutely.
	And the way that that woman put it at the end is perfectly said, I can't afford to take that risk.
	for four more years of the same.
	I literally cannot afford it.
	And that's the bottom line.
	That's what's driving people this election cycle.
	She's an incumbent and we all know it.
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	We have a guy who, I cannot read that name, has donkey in it.
	He donated $20 and he said, maybe I missed it, but what is this border bill Trump supposedly shot down?
	I'm trying to look into it.
	So, this was a Republican senator, James Lankford, introduced a bill that would make it so we could let in, I think it was 10,000 people a day?
	5,000 people?
	It was some extremely high number of people a day.
	And if it went above that amount, then you could do an emergency shutdown stuff.
	But it was basically, we're going to have 2 million illegals every year, then it's a crisis.
	It was really bad.
	It was disgraceful that he brought it forward as a Republican option.
	And he's basically just given Democrats ammo ever since.
	The last few here.
	AmericanPatriot3531 says elections are not won by rigged debates.
	They are won by keeping the truth, outworking our opponents, and taking action.
	Action.
	You know, we're renaming Turning Point Action to Turning Point Action Action Action.
	Heck yeah!
	And then a person I've never heard of named Mikey McCoy says, Charlie, you donated $50.
	Charlie, how could Taylor vote for someone like Kamabla when Trump is literally out there saving kittens?
	Poor Meredith's life now hangs in the balance.
	And isn't that true?
	Is he implying that Haitians will hang Meredith?
	You know, it says that it was the allegation that they were just kind of dangling from a tree branch, I think.
	By the way, I'm glad President Trump brought up the pets thing.
	It's 100% true. The more data we get, it's true.
	We don't have evidence yet on dogs, but you know cats are a delicacy in Haitian culture.
	It's like escargot.
	It actually is one Christmas Eve.
	No, no, it's a real thing, right, Jack? Cats are a delicacy in Haitian culture.
	And so it's a voodoo spirit animal.
	They don't have to eat like a separate thing, but yeah, it's traditionally they eat them on Christmas Eve.
	And, you know, I've been going through and just finding old tweets of people in Haiti from five months ago, six months
	ago, seven months ago, even three years ago in some cases where they're just
	posting pictures of them cooking cats.
	We have actually a video on a play there.
	But yes, I mean, Blake, how predictable was it that he was going to bring up Springfield, Ohio?
	I'm really happy we saw it.
	They're going to, you know, I actually think they haven't flipped out about it that much yet.
	I think they may have realized, oh, this could be dangerous because I think we're going to hear more and more stuff out of this town.
	And if it's not the cats and dogs, it's going to be something else.
	I totally agree.
	Two things here.
	They're doing focus groups everywhere.
	We have our eyes on them because I'm actually really interested in them.
	Number one, If this was a campaign, Kamala Harris' campaign, if they were confident, they would not have received the Taylor Swift endorsement on debate night.
	Their internals are not where they need to be.
	Number two, they would not be asking for another debate.
	Someone who is confident about where their campaign is and how tonight went, they need to dig themselves out of a hole.
	They are acting like a campaign in desperate measure.
	They recently just did events in New Hampshire and Minnesota.
	They have a lot of climbing up to do, right, Blake?
	And you don't all of a sudden, you know, win a quote-unquote, oh, I won the debate, let's go do another.
	Who cares who won or lost?
	That's not important to me, okay?
	One side's gonna say our side got it, they're gonna say, okay, whatever.
	Meaning they need more juice, right, Blake?
	They didn't get what they wanted tonight.
	What's most important is Not, is like your psychological composure.
	What they needed, the biggest gain they're going to get from this is not voters, it's just that they can go to donors and say like, things are alright, pony up some more money, you know, Kamala Mentum is still okay, and maybe some of them will believe that.
	And on the same, for us, it's the most important thing is, you don't listen to people who scream at you and say like, ah, Trump lost, oh my gosh!
	You don't.
	You just don't listen to them.
	You know, oh wow, they lied a bunch in the debate.
	They had a bunch of rigged moderators.
	We're still going all out.
	Maximum intensity.
	Sign up your friends.
	Sign up your spouses.
	Sign up your kids.
	Your legal voting age kids.
	We're not Democrats here.
	And you...
	Get out.
	Get those ballots in.
	You win the high score race for pieces of paper put into the box.
	That's it.
	It's whoever can get the most pieces of paper in a box in a short period of time.
	Ready, set, go.
	Jack, do you get the impression if Kamala wants another debate... Forget the debate performance.
	I'm not interested in that.
	Taylor Swift endorsement.
	Is this how a winning campaign acts?
	Well, you know, it's actually quite strange because it almost feels like there's something that they're not, they know something they're not telling us, right?
	So a winning campaign says, we don't need to have another debate.
	If you feel like you've won, like you put the nail in the coffin, then you said, we'll give them another, you would dangle it out.
	You would say, we'll give them another debate.
	If they deserve one, we'll give you another title shot.
	If you deserve one.
	And again, I think they're realizing.
	That when you get beyond the nuts and bolts of things and really look under the hood, that this is a country, again, that is frustrated, a country that is angry with the current status quo of things, that does want change, that does have the righteous indignation.
	And my friend Rahim Ghassan was writing a piece of this, that the mood of the country is much closer to the mood that Donald Trump espoused on stage tonight, not this sort of showy, flashy, oh, everything's going to be great.
	You can look at me and my lines.
	No, this is a country where people are going around saying, you know what, I'm sick of the tens of thousands of Haitians running rampant in my town, and I want someone to get them out of here and all of these jobs to go to the people that have lived here all along.
	It's as simple as that.
	Yes, and Andrew, I want to get in on that.
	Just again, how a campaign acts is more important than what a campaign says.
	They want another debate because they think tonight went well for them, and they know it's not yet enough.
	Right, Blake?
	And while they think that tonight went well for them, which I'm not totally on board for... By the way, Ryan, did I not predict that CNN poll?
	I said the CNN poll is going to say around 65% of people thought Kamala won the debate.
	63% according to the CNN poll.
	It's all BS.
	By the way, the ones in 2020 are even worse.
	Yeah, I think it was about 70% for Biden.
	But Blake, help me, play devil's advocate.
	If Kamala was super happy with the current state that she's in, polling-wise, enthusiasm, do you demand another debate, especially after Taylor Swift endorsement, that quickly?
	I think really I think the fact that Trump also says he wants another debate you come out and of course you say I want more debates because that's how you signal you don't think you lost basically and I think if if you're nervous about it later on you'll see maybe they'll try to like glide their way out of it and you know fuss over the rules or something something like that but I think I think they've seen their internal numbers.
	We've heard a lot of talk from Mark Halpern, from other people, that their internal numbers aren't as good as the public ones.
	And the public ones aren't that great right now.
	You have Nate Silver going around.
	They're citing Nate Silver.
	Prominent Democrats are like stoking panic in their base.
	They're saying, he says, it's really close.
	we're down in the electoral college and some of this is Democrats sort of
	respond well to panic they freak out they donate more money they are a
	neurotic bunch of people in the best of times they were mass and so you know
	they're going to be all neurotic about this no matter what but I I think they
	are I do think they're requesting another debate because I think they
	believe it will be useful to them And I think part of it is awareness that this debate is really early, way earlier than any of the debates were in 2016, for example, and I think 2020.
	Uh, other than like North Carolina, I don't think any states are really voting for another two or three weeks.
	No, that's right.
	That's like three or four additional news cycles.
	Huge.
	This'll be over with, and that's why they wish they could get a debate right in the sweet spot of early voting, and we'll see if that happens.
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	Okay, let's go. This is another focus group. I have no idea what they're gonna say.
	So guys, we're all gonna watch this. You're telling me for the first time. Cut 103.
	She just basically repeated everything that Biden has said in the past.
	What were your thoughts?
	Donald Trump made a strong closing statement by saying, why didn't they do all the things that she's proposing during the three and a half years that they've been in office?
	And Biden did this entire moderate stance back in 2020.
	And she's trying to do it again in 2024, but she didn't talk about her policy changes between 2020 and 2024.
	Her whole centrist, moderate stance is just a facade.
	Blake, I'm sorry, that's CBS News, Jack.
	That's not what they wanted out of tonight, of undecided voters.
	And by the way, that, um, you know, we, we haven't said it, but president Trump, when he was given that opportunity to, uh, summarize essentially his positions for the evening, he, he really did very well.
	It was a fantastic closing statement to just say, she says she's going to do all of these wonderful things to do so.
	I said it earlier.
	That's my only feedback.
	I'm sorry, I shouldn't have interrupted you, Jack.
	I said he should have said it earlier.
	I couldn't resist.
	If he would have made that a theme throughout the night... He should have said it earlier, yes.
	Yeah, I do agree with that.
	And then it's just that... But there are people who are picking up on it.
	People watched it to the end and it was definitely a rollercoaster.
	There's no question about that.
	But the fact that people are picking up on it and the undecided voter panels are hearing it, it shows that it did come through.
	Look, if you're someone who's sitting out there and you're wondering why things are going so bad right now, you know that she's the current vice president.
	They're trying to play this game like she isn't the current vice president.
	And we know Trump's not in office.
	So if she can do all these wonderful things, and he did kind of say to her, why don't you just go down to DC and close the border?
	You can do it right now.
	So he's giving her these examples.
	And I think that stuff does actually have resonance with people who are looking at this, if they truly are looking at this with an open mind.
	So, so Jack, I mean, I think it's important, you know, something that Trump hammered again and again and again tonight was the fact that they are sending criminals across our border and that she allowed it to happen.
	And you and I have talked about this.
	When Trump first did the shot across the bow in 2015 and 2016, and he went really hard on immigration, everybody called him a racist, but it turns out, guess what?
	The American people, they were into it.
	They loved it.
	I have consistently believed that the most popular issue that the Democrats have worked overtime, over years, to make it so that you couldn't express these opinions I believe that the American people are so fed up with immigration that this messaging, yeah, maybe he could have delivered it better, but they know very clearly after tonight, if you want less, you got Trump.
	I mean, it is really a binary choice on such a massively energizing issue as immigration.
	And could Trump have delivered the points better?
	Sure.
	But the point got through.
	You got one guy that's on your team.
	You got one guy that's on their team.
	And I think that was so, I think it's so powerful.
	It is the underappreciated through line of Trump's entire run as a candidate Going back to 2015, we underestimate consistently how unpopular mass immigration is and how popular a secure border is.
	And Trump is that guy.
	Blake has made a great point, Andrew, that's very astute.
	We are one news item away from all of that setting in.
	For example, people might say, I don't know if Trump did well or not, but he kept talking about immigration.
	We are one horrendous news item, right, Blake?
	Away, God forbid, from all of a sudden that clicking even further.
	Yeah, exactly.
	One of Trump's biggest advantages is he benefits right now from chaos.
	And 2016 was like that, too.
	When the current regime is basically built on lies like, oh, the border's fine, the economy is fine, it's a house of cards that could come in at any moment.
	Does anyone think we're going to have a shocker where the stock market explodes upward and we come in and they're like, oh, actually the economy grew 5%?
	No.
	They're praying we don't have the stock market tank 5,000 points in a week right before the election.
	Do they think the border is going to be solved?
	No.
	They're terrified some illegal... they'll be like, oh yeah, this person was... the Biden administration paid to fly this person in from Haiti and then they paid them $10,000 so they could live in this house in like a middle-class neighborhood in Wisconsin and then he abducted this eight-year-old girl and he flayed her and then ate her body.
	And that could come out!
	Something like that could happen because that is the kind of people we let in!
	And it's only gonna get worse.
	It's only getting worse!
	We see, this is what's crumbling through.
	This Springfield, and it could be out there, I'd encourage everyone, if you're in a community where this is going on, talk about it.
	Go to city council, send emails to us.
	Because this Springfield stuff was going on for months, for years, and it's just finally, clips started to go viral and it caught everyone's attention.
	This could be happening anywhere.
	So if there are, if there's a string of burglaries in your town and they say, it's illegal immigrants who do this, If there are drug gangs in your community and it's illegal immigrants, let us know because we can publicize this, we can make this the dominant issue in the election.
	Do you want your community to just be plundered and looted and criminalized and destroyed by this tidal wave of vicious and criminal people from the third world?
	The... I think that's exactly... America is open for looting, is what we are seeing right now.
	Open for looting.
	By the way, I have... People are fed up.
	By the way, we have people in the warehouse right now on... You see this video, trying to get more hats?
	Look at all these hats I'm signing for you guys.
	Look at that picture right there.
	Can we go... Do that zoom out picture.
	Look at that, Blake.
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	That's beautiful.
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	They're coming to a house near you.
	Yes, Andrew.
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	My answers are all the same, Blake.
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	Yes, thank you very much.
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	And Tyler had to drop off.
	This is the other call to action tonight, guys, on top of getting your hats and all this.
	But, uh, you need to go to commit 100.
	We have to do the work here.
	This thing's gonna come down to the wire of who wants it more.
	And so at Turning Point Action, we are mobilizing the largest ever citizen force and grassroots army to chase ballots in Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Pennsylvania.
	Parts of Michigan and parts of Nevada.
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	Andrew, you talked to a reporter today about this.
	Can you walk our audience through the tactical significance of chasing ballots, of getting into the grassroots?
	Andrew, educate our audience on this.
	Yeah, so, you know, thanks for that opportunity.
	I'm happy to do it.
	So, in the past, the Ronna McDaniel crowd, the old school consultants, they would go around and they would say, we knocked on 10 million doors.
	And what they don't want you to know is that a lot of those doors were not the right doors.
	And the interactions with said people at those doors We're not very pleasant.
	And sometimes they were Democrats.
	And sometimes you in the grassroots were spending money thinking you were helping save your country and you were actually getting Democrats out to the polls.
	What we do at Turning Point Action is much different.
	Our Chase the Vote initiative is about hiring hundreds of full-time employees located in very strategic And guess what?
	We knock on their door and we say, do you have a plan to vote?
	And they're like, I don't really check into politics.
	just didn't come out last time or in 2016.
	So they didn't come out in 2016 and or 2020.
	And guess what?
	We knock on their door and we say, do you have a plan to vote?
	And they're like, I don't really check into politics.
	I kind of think it's all, it's all, you know, stupid.
	It's not worth it.
	I'm, you know, I'm.
	I'm not really engaged.
	Well, how about you just take five minutes to fill out a piece of paper.
	I'll help you get a plan to vote.
	Do you want people to take away your guns?
	Have you noticed the prices at the grocery store?
	Do you like your new neighbors that don't speak English and don't know how to drive and they get into car accidents?
	Well, maybe you should make a plan to vote.
	And one by one by one, Basically, 10 interactions at a time a day over the course of the months that we have had and we're going to have the 60 days ahead of us.
	We are giving those people a plan to vote.
	We're making it easy for them.
	We're driving them to polling places if that helps, to drop boxes if that helps.
	These are people who are on the sidelines.
	They did not vote last time.
	So we don't care about the 10 million the 10 million doors here or whatever we care about about a 300 to 350,000 low prop likely conservative minded people in Arizona and we care about 350,000 people in Wisconsin same same idea and in CD7 in Michigan and CD3 in Nevada we also have staff deployed and that is our universe because we know that We fell 20,000 ballots short in Wisconsin.
	We fell 11,000 short, 10,000 short in Arizona.
	And we've got 350 in each state, 350,000 in each state, a universe that small, but that important
	that can make all the difference, the direction of this country moving forward.
	So look, I'm reading, thank you, Andrew, for that.
	It's tpaction.com slash 100.
	So, I'm reading CNN.com here, and if you are a Trump supporter, these are headlines that you would want.
	Key takeaways from contentious debate.
	That's the headline.
	Next headline.
	There were fierce arguments.
	Trump indulged in conspiracies.
	By the way, no one is moved by that.
	Okay, let's be clear.
	That is an unmoved headline.
	Next.
	And neither offered a plan to end major global conflicts.
	Trump hammered Harris on her inconsistencies, J.D.
	Vance says.
	The next headline on CNN.com, Harris campaign calls for second debate.
	CNN flash poll, majority of debate watchers say Harris outperformed Trump.
	Okay, we anticipated that.
	CNN experts offer context and analysis.
	Guys, Jack, I'm reading these headlines here.
	That's not the headlines that you want if you're the Harris campaign.
	Contentious debate, both sides didn't know how to end conflicts.
	That sounds like a draw.
	Yeah, so let me give an example that, you know, people can say, oh, Trump got mad and Kamala came across poised or at least prepared, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
	But you know what Kamala didn't do?
	She didn't really land any punches and she didn't have any standout moments.
	Go back and try to just off the top of your head, what was something that Kamala said tonight?
	What was the big scripted, Oh, that's the line that the team crafted.
	And campaigns usually work for a long time.
	And I was looking for it.
	I was looking for it the entire night.
	So she's out in Pittsburgh, then she's actually coming and staying at a hotel she's in.
	I'm not going to say it though.
	And right now, and, You always look for these pre-scripted planned lines that are usually prepared well in advance and designed to strategically calculate a certain cross-section of the voting base that she needs.
	And you just didn't hear it.
	You just didn't hear it the entire night.
	She had no standout moments.
	She had no standout lines.
	Then even CNN is kind of scrambling to say, okay, what do we do here with this?
	Because there just weren't any.
	Yeah, I mean, so they have Chris Wallace on CNN saying the debate performance was devastating.
	Okay, Chris Wallace is not taken seriously as a... Chris Wallace, one of the most disappointing nepotism hires in media.
	No, no, I mean, that doesn't move anybody.
	But I'm looking at here just kind of the zeitgeist.
	Foxnews.com, Trump spars with Harris and the moderators in heated first debate against VP.
	She doesn't have a plan.
	Okay.
	I'm looking here at Yahoo.com here.
	But what I'm getting at, Blake, do you see the theme here?
	This is not decisive.
	It's not over the top.
	This will kind of wane out of the memory of the American people pretty quickly.
	I think so.
	I think so.
	And then it's going to live with the clips of Run Spot Run and that they're eating dogs and you can't afford bacon.
	Which, honestly, Trump had the better one-liners tonight.
	And a few that they could, this is actually, I want to just, sorry, I just want to flag this from a person on YouTube, Colette Davis, who donated $25.
	She points out, anytime Kamala mentions $25,000 for first-time homebuyers, he should bring up, in California, her state, Democrats want to give $150,000 to illegal immigrants.
	To buy homes.
	And yeah, okay, Gavin Newsom did a solid and vetoed it.
	He wouldn't be vetoing it if it was any year other than one ending in 2024.
	And you should bring that up.
	I think that's a great point.
	Front page of Yahoo.com.
	Updates.
	Fact checks following the first Trump-Harris debate.
	Candidates clash at immigration, abortion, and more testy debate despite ABC's rules.
	Mics weren't always muted.
	Guys, this just seems like a draw and kind of a mess, the way that the media is framing it.
	I always like to check my premise here.
	By the way, can you look at my mountain here?
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	Daisy, come on here.
	There are so many hats that it knocked over my energy drink.
	Daisy, say hello.
	Daisy does a lot of great work.
	She's wearing her MAGA hat.
	There are so many hats.
	It knocked over my energy drink.
	I spilled some on my computer.
	This computer might have been destroyed for the sake of MAGA.
	That computer... You've had that thing since, what, like 2003?
	Yeah, basically, yeah.
	I should probably replace it at some point.
	It's so funny, that thing like heats up as if you're trying to launch a rocket ship into orbit.
	It's like a trillion degrees.
	It's amazing.
	Yes, Andrew?
	I want to interject with something here.
	I feel like just with the benefit of a few minutes of this debate being passed, I feel like I'm settling in to what I actually, and I've been writing down some notes here as we've been talking, And what I really feel like I saw, like in my gut, what I know that casual watchers of this debate were going to actually internalize, what they would actually take away.
	Yeah, quippy one-liner, good moment, Trump maybe missed this, hit her on that, nailed the more important things, whatever.
	What we really saw was A man, Donald Trump, who's really ticked off.
	He's really ticked off at the injustices that have been perpetrated against him.
	And he's really upset about what he's watching happen to America.
	And he's really upset that he's getting mocked by somebody across the stage who's responsible for it.
	Who's responsible for so much of it, at least.
	And I genuinely feel like that's what I internalized.
	And I think they're going to internalize the fact that they saw somebody that does all of the things, the polish, the one-liners, the, like, sort of looks, the acting, and how phony it all is.
	And I genuinely believe that that is going to be somewhere deep down in the viewer's mind and in their gut, they're going to know that that's the truth.
	I think Trump's pissed.
	I think he's ticked off.
	I think he's exhausted by just how, like, Superfluous and silly so much of the song and dances and how much of the posturing and the acting and the hypocrisy that he's seen so close and intimately.
	I genuinely believe that that is getting through to the viewers.
	I do.
	They saw a man that's pissed off and I think so many of us, why that works is because so many of us feel it too.
	Yeah, and I just... So Jack, again, we're very much in favor of Taylor's cats.
	We hope that we deport Haitians so that Taylor can keep Meredith safe.
	But why would they roll out the Taylor Swift endorsement here?
	Yeah, so the Taylor Swift endorsement, which is something that I've been predicting for over nine months would be coming in the fall, that it's something that it seems strange to roll out on a night which was already so politically newsy to begin with.
	Although it does strike me as interesting that there's a certain dichotomy of the Elon endorsement coming on the day of Trump's assassination attempt.
	And the Taylor Swift endorsement coming on the day of the debate like this, because both happened in big media cycles.
	And so there's two things I'm thinking about.
	It could be number one, that Taylor just wanted to get it out there, but didn't want it to be a separate media cycle.
	So you put it in, you say, this is the endorsement.
	And then, you know, is she going to organize or not?
	I think that's really the big question, because all right, she put it out there, but Because there's so much media going on right now, it's not going to get as big of a cycle as it would unless she goes to organize voters.
	That's wrong.
	Number two, is it possible?
	And you know, I say this is less likely, but is it?
	I'll ask the question.
	Is it possible?
	Well, not to say that you are in politics, but you've been around politics.
	And you know that that's how it goes.
	You would plan something for a good news cycle in order to cover up bad news or a poor debate performance.
	You know, Charlie, you work in politics, you know, that's exactly what not to say that
	you are in politics, but you even around politics, and you, you know, that that's how it goes.
	You would, you would plan something for a good news cycle in order to cover up bad news
	or a poor debate performance.
	So basically, why pull the trigger if you thought you would want the debates are resoundingly
	It smacks of, potentially, a campaign that feels like they need something.
	Yeah, it's just... For example, I'm here at CBS.
	I'm checking every major outlet here right now.
	CBSnews.com, NBCnews.com.
	You know what the CBS headline is?
	Presidential Debate Highlights from the First Trump vs. Harris Showdown.
	Kamala Harris's policy plans and platform.
	Trump policy plans and platform.
	Trump-Vance repeat baseless claim about Haitian migrants and cats.
	That's their headline.
	If we're talking about Haitians eating cats, we have won the 2024 election, everybody.
	Right?
	I totally agree.
	Yes, I think that backfires on them.
	I think that Trump getting dogs and cats mixed up, it's all good.
	It's all good.
	Like, talking about Haitians in America?
	Good.
	Andrew, do you agree with me?
	No, I totally agree because I go back to an earlier point I made that the American people are sick of it.
	They're sick of it.
	They don't care that they're eating cats or not eating cats.
	They know that it's a problem.
	And if you look at a lot of the film that we've gotten on the ground, both Turning Point USA Frontlines and other independent journalists, the city council meetings, those citizens are fed up.
	They've had enough.
	Whether it's insurance rates, whether it's geese getting eaten at the pond, which nobody's really debating.
	That's definitely happening.
	Ducks and geese are definitely happening.
	I think all of this underscores the fact that we have a mass immigration problem.
	We have too many, too fast, too unvetted.
	And people know in their guts, they're sick of it.
	They're sick of walking down the street next to people they don't recognize and they don't know and they don't speak the language of.
	Sorry, if you think that's racist, I guess, like, whatever, keep running with that.
	I think the American people are sick of that line.
	I think they know in their gut and they're fed up.
	And I think, again, we underestimate how unpopular the Democrats' virtue signaling stance is.
	And I think it's a winner.
	If we're talking about that, to your point, Charlie, we are winning.
	Absolutely.
	There is going to be, I think we're going to be vindicated on this story 100%.
	The media totally jumped the gun saying it was debunked and false and all this stuff.
	These Haitians are into cat eating.
	We all know it.
	So, you know, we're going to find out more.
	Okay, uh, let's go members.charliekirk.com.
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	I want to thank Ronnie.
	Laverna—that's a beautiful name—Linda, Mary, Thomas, and Christian.
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	That is members.charliekirk.com.
	And by the way, yes, we have reporters on the ground.
	Did we get that video, by the way?
	Did we get the video that I sent earlier to load?
	A couple.
	The CNN one and also the one from Springfield, Ohio I sent, which are both great.
	Another CNN focus group that I want to watch from Erie, Pennsylvania.
	And look, I'm looking through these headlines.
	You would think that they'd be far more in favor.
	Okay, yeah, this is from Paternity.USA Frontlines talking about... So do you know that the number one thing that our Frontlines people are hearing in Springfield, Ohio right now?
	What?
	Every single resident they're talking to is like, yeah, they're eating the cats, but that's not the worst thing.
	They're doing much worse things in the town.
	Whoa!
	And you might say, what?
	Haitians don't know how to drive, and they don't learn on American standards, and that's how that kid died, that 11-year-old.
	Yeah, like I just drove into traffic basically.
	Oh yeah, you're constantly in traffic.
	And it was like, they're like, he had a license not recognized in America.
	Yeah, I imagine.
	This is Cut 102, where your pets are not safe in Springfield, Ohio.
	I love these folks.
	This is the background, backbone of the country.
	Play Cut 102.
	You don't want to get eaten up, do you?
	You're gonna be next, boy!
	I ain't eating nothing off of a barbecue pit around here.
	Ducks.
	Ducks are disappearing.
	So the migrants are eating geese, you think?
	Have you heard of pets being abducted?
	Yep.
	Cats are a delicacy in Haiti.
	It's not that they're poor and eating them because they don't have other food.
	It is a delicacy like someone would eat escargot.
	Then I heard that stuff on Facebook and I thought, I better watch my dogs.
	Well, that wasn't verified.
	Springfield, Ohio right now is a tender box.
	They're killing cats.
	They're eating geese.
	They're crashing cars.
	One of these is going to light, and it's going to be bad.
	Part of that is because in the state of Ohio, you cannot use lethal force to protect property, and pets are considered property.
	Are you carrying a firearm now to keep yourself safe?
	How has that changed?
	Yes, I did.
	I got a couple guns, and I'm not afraid to use them.
	I was raised at the hills.
	Our town is a bomb, especially with the influx of immigrants or whatever you want to say, people.
	It's a time bomb ready to go off.
	I didn't know that we got the Super Mario endorsement.
	First of all, how great is Turning Point?
	That was amazing.
	They landed at 7 a.m.
	and they had that by 1 p.m.
	That's incredible.
	I mean, Andrew, that is premier journalism right there.
	And by the way, that's just the beginning.
	We're trying to get private security footage.
	There's residents that say they have ring cameras of Haitians just coming in and scooping up cats.
	But it's just Monday and stuff.
	I bet like every package it's just open season.
	You know, can't get stuff delivered.
	And people just probably wander out of stores and stuff with all sorts of crap.
	So this is CNN.
	I want to play CNN here, by the way.
	Another focus group.
	Erie, Pennsylvania, which is traditionally a Democrat stronghold right on Lake Erie.
	Playcut 104.
	Heard that we were abandoning or we're withdrawing from Afghanistan and the way it was happening.
	I had my Kennedy moment.
	It was very similar to when we decided to invade Iraq back under President Bush.
	And when I saw that we were leaving that amount of high-tech equipment in the hands of our enemy, And later that day, or later that week, I saw on the news were them celebrating with our guns in their hands.
	I realized what a travesty that was.
	A, in the loss of money that we abandoned when we left, plus the very bullets that we left there that they were shooting at us as we flew away in the planes.
	I mean, I just want to repeat.
	This environment is so good for Trump.
	Voters are basically begging.
	Can you please give me a reason to vote for you?
	Things are too expensive.
	Our border is open.
	Afghanistan was a disgrace.
	We're getting humiliated.
	The country's a mess.
	This is a CNN focus group.
	And you're going to go with Kamala because she can rehearse a few lines and kind of warble her voice like this to sound so emotional.
	I'm so upset about Trump.
	That's a hoax, man.
	Yeah, it does.
	It shouldn't, but it does.
	It does.
	You read an old Abraham Lincoln speech.
	Go read the Cooper Union speech, and then come and read Kamala's address.
	It's not 1860.
	Cooper Union's the best speech, by the way.
	Yeah, it's amazing.
	You don't have the demographic of 1860 either, by the way.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We go from that to Kamala, just like, the Ukraine is a smaller country than Russia.
	Okay, members.charliekirk.com.
	So, I want to play other pieces of tape here.
	Jack, you wanted to chime in, though.
	Yeah, I did, because I've got a really good friend, just say, a guy I served in the military with, who is from Ohio, was in my wedding, kind of type guy, and he texted me during the debate.
	He said, well, hold on a second.
	People in Springfield that I've talked to say that when they go to call the police, They'll say, Oh, my, my, my cat and dog is missing.
	And we're pretty sure what happened.
	They say, well, you need to give us a name or you need to tell us what happened or else we're just going to say your cat ran away.
	And if your cat or dog ran away or whatever it is, then that's not a crime.
	So you don't have evidence.
	So there's no report.
	And same time where they'll say, someone's chasing me down the street,
	someone's chasing me down the street.
	Okay, do you have a name?
	Oh, no, we don't have a name.
	So guess what?
	There's no report.
	And he's been telling me this for months in Springfield that the police are under pressure to not put reports
	of crime when Haitians are in power.
	They are lining their pockets with federal government taxpayer cash, and it's the Great Replacement.
	of this migrant invasion. Yep, you know, they are lining their pockets with federal government
	taxpayer cash and it's the great replacement. And there's no replacement. And we flew them here.
	Just so we're clear. Yes, Andrew? And we flew them here on taxpayer dollars, which is infuriating.
	But, you know, something, Charlie, that came up in the debate tonight was gun control.
	Trump constantly hammered Kamala on the fact that she wants to take your guns away.
	And then she said, well, listen, me and Tim Walz are both gun owners, so don't tell me that I want to take away your guns.
	Well, the problem with that is, Charlie, you look at those Springfield, Ohio clips, and how many of those residents were like, yeah, I'm packing now because I feel unsafe.
	In my community, because I'm walking by strangers who don't speak my language that are, you know, throwing mattresses in my yard and littering and crashing into things and eating, you know, wildlife and slash pets.
	A lot of them are now, you know, armed to protect themselves.
	And meanwhile, Kamala Harris is lying about her gun stance.
	And we have the tapes, like, you know, from 2019 of Kamala Harris endorsing gun confiscation.
	Now they call it Gun buybacks.
	But she calls it mandatory gun buybacks.
	And so I think we should play this tape, Charlie, when you want to call for it, go for it.
	But 105, when you add the word mandatory, you're saying, you know, we're not going to give you an option.
	You have no choice in this.
	It is a confiscation.
	Let's play cut.
	I have it right here, actually.
	Cut 105. 105.
	Um, I support buybacks and I think that, look, we have 5 million assault weapons on the streets of America.
	And we have 5 million assault weapons on the streets of America.
	And assault weapons have been designed It's designed to kill a lot of human beings quickly.
	They are weapons of war, and there is no place for them on the streets of a civil society.
	It's something I'm so passionate about and so looking forward to being president to address.
	We've got to deal with this.
	How mandatory is your gun buyback program?
	It's mandatory.
	Second Amendment?
	Second Amendment?
	Listen, we're going to have to do it the right way.
	There's no question about that.
	We don't have any.
	We have to get these guns off the street.
	But I also, you know, I have faith in the American people to know that, you know, that we want to comply with our laws and that I know that to be true.
	That's a gun confiscation program that she is sponsoring, just so we are clear.
	That is gun confiscation.
	Pure and simple.
	Charlie.
	Charlie, I have a question.
	How do you define assault weapons?
	An assault weapon is not a real thing.
	An assault weapon is like a bat, a knife.
	Assault rifle is not even a technical term.
	So are you suggesting that maybe it's this big loophole where they could just Oh, interesting.
	Interesting what she did there.
	weapons into whatever they want to confiscate that given day?
	Is that what you're trying to suggest?
	There is no technical definition.
	So a pistol could be an assault weapon, literally.
	Oh, oh, interesting.
	Interesting what she did there.
	So maybe Kamala Harris owns an assault weapon and she's gonna realize that if elected
	and force you to mandatory buybacks.
	That's right.
	This is what these people, this is why I'm saying, I don't think anybody's falling for this crap.
	I think she's transparent and phony, and she does all the things that her consultants and handlers told her to say, and I really don't think this is landing.
	The more I sit with this, the more I'm just convinced.
	I agree.
	I mean, let's be fair.
	Kamala Harris received her very detailed, precise coaching on pressure points for Trump, and she delivered those lines, right?
	Trump played into that probably more than we would have liked, but then he was able to navigate and pivot.
	But this was not the win that they thought it was going to be at all.
	And this is going to probably be old news within a week.
	Members.CharlieKirk.com.
	Final thoughts, guys, as we go around the horn, as I sign some more for Susan and I want to see for Heather.
	Let's see here.
	And also for Ryan.
	And then for William, final thoughts, Blake?
	You know, like I said, people are... it'll feel really intense, but we predicted this will basically be probably a draw in the end.
	It's still, in most states, it's about three weeks, a month even, before they even get to early voting.
	We're a century in this election.
	We are a month out from Arizona.
	A month ago, we hadn't even had the DNC yet.
	A month ago, we were, it's like, brat summer, all that stuff.
	Two months ago, Trump was, three months ago, Trump was getting shot.
	Like everything moves so quickly.
	Two months ago, actually.
	Yeah.
	It's like two months ago, Trump was shot.
	That's feels like a century ago.
	And two months from now is election day.
	So we'll have another century to go in this race.
	People shouldn't.
	Be demoralized because the press is trying to do it.
	Your only takeaway from this should be ABC News is really evil and we're going to say it as long as we're not simulcasting their debate and not allowed to say it.
	They're bad dudes.
	They hate you.
	They want to rig the selection.
	Don't let them.
	Stay energized.
	Get out.
	Get the pieces of paper into the box.
	And vote early.
	Andrew and then Jack, final thoughts.
	Andrew.
	OK, surprise.
	We tweeted about this too, Charlie, but a surprise trending number two.
	So number one is Trump on X right now.
	Number two, Abdul.
	And I remember we were all resonating with that because he was like, and I told him, Abdul, you're gonna have problems because she tried to make it see.
	I mean, what a heck of a spin job from Kamala Harris to try and act like something that they did in Afghanistan, which everybody knows is a historic humiliation that they just got crucified in the congressional report.
	Biden's poll numbers never recovered from Jack, final thoughts?
	it like it was Trump's fault. And so Trump reacts and goes, Abdul, I told him Abdul,
	you know, it just hit. It just was a really good moment.
	Trending number two, number two on X, people love it. And all the comments are positive. So that's
	kind of a random aside, but an interesting observation, nonetheless. Jack, final
	thoughts.
	Look, folks, this one night, this one day of the entire campaign and
	And we know that for the next seven weeks, the only thing that matters is how much you fight.
	Are you going to commit to action now?
	Or are you going to be sitting there on November 5th saying, oh, well, you know, I could have done more, but I guess it didn't.
	No, no.
	Go all in now.
	Leave everything else out there in the field.
	I was saying that yesterday.
	I was saying that the day before.
	I'll be saying it today, I'll be saying it tomorrow.
	Leave everything on the field and you will know that no matter what happens on November 5th,
	that you will have done things right.
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