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And I actually do mean that.
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Alex Clark, TPUSA contributor and pop culture icon herself.
Thank you for joining us today.
Thank you for having me.
I got in at the skin of my teeth, fashionably late.
Fashionably late, per usual.
And Daisy Phelps, one of the producers on the show.
Hi.
Resident Swifty.
It drives us all a little bit nuts, but that's okay.
Swiftie is an American icon.
It's important to be up in the know.
And then Blake Neff, who hasn't really been in touch with pop culture since Guns N' Roses in the early 90s.
I have an Appetite for Destruction shirt.
It's one of the best albums ever made, and then music went away.
We were singing Welcome to the Jungle this morning.
I do believe it's fact-checked true.
We have to do a pop culture update to inform the audience, let them know what the heck's going on.
We've got Swifties for Trump, Brittany Mahomes.
We've got breakups, contractual breakups.
We've got to make sense of all of this.
There's also a Mormon story that's pretty spicy that we're going to get to apparently.
I know about as much as you do, so buckle up.
Here we go.
Let's start with this contractual breakup between Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift.
Is it totally debunked or are they just CYAing right now?
I mean, they've said that it's debunked, but the date in the fake contract that said they were going to break up was September 28th.
So I guess we won't really know until September 28th.
Well, they're not going to do the same date if they got outed on it.
They're going to move it to, like, you know, they might have just locked themselves into, like, the whole NFL season.
Well, we also will get a sort of an answer or a hint tonight if the Chiefs and Ravens play tonight, 8.20 p.m.
Eastern Time, if Taylor The Daily Mail this morning said that Taylor would be at the game today.
Is there other evidence?
Have they been out in public less than they were before?
Well, both of them have.
He's been in training and then she just finished her European tour so then she was just taking a break and then this is supposed to be like their first public moment back tonight.
Yeah, so let's explain what this leaked document allegedly said.
We have an image 90.
Throw it up if you will, guys.
So here's what happened.
It went viral yesterday on social media.
There was allegedly a leaked contract from this company Fullscope.
It's a PR company that Travis uses.
It's basically outlining, like, there's going to be a breakup, here's going to be the talking points of how we're going to say, you know, the relationship ended.
Wait, what were the talking points?
It was very, very basic PR stuff, like respect and privacy for each other as a mutual decision.
They're going to focus on their careers.
Boring.
But kind of believable.
Okay, but here's the thing.
So I'm curious what you think, Daisy, because you're the only other Swifty on the panel, is that I think this is total fake news.
I do want it to be known that the PR company made a statement saying this is completely, like, fake.
Like, somebody made this, like, ChatGBT wrote this up.
It's, like, my first assignment of senior year type of paper.
It reads terribly.
Okay.
And they're like, we did not make this.
They just put our logo on it to, like, have a viral story.
Have you ever met a publicist?
Well, I'm looking at one.
Not the smartest people I've ever met.
I don't know how often Andrew's writing breakup statements.
This is the truth, it was me.
And I'm sorry, my idiocy's been exposed again.
I mean, really, your expertise, you would be the person to look at this and be like, this is real and now they're trying to cover it.
Have you read it?
No, I haven't read it.
Send me a link and I'll read it as we're talking here.
But I mean, you know, the respect our privacy.
It was a mutual decision.
We remain friends.
Like, you know, we support one another.
Our schedules made it difficult to keep the relationship.
I mean, essentially.
We're fixating on whether this is true.
And the more important question is, should it be true?
No, it shouldn't.
It should not.
Do you like the relationship?
I love the relationship.
I think this is, I think every conservative should love this relationship.
Mr. COVID shot?
Forget that.
Here's the thing.
I've said this before on this show.
Taylor Swift is a flaming lib.
This isn't new news.
So is Travis Kelce.
Right.
So the point is, out of all of the flaming liberal celebrities she could date, can't we all agree he's like, he would be the best, most acceptable one?
Everyone that she dated before this was like, not even American, first of all, just like very beta British boys.
Artists, creative, like Travis Kelce's like Compared to all the other ones more manly.
I think this is what partly fuels some of the let's call them conspiracy theories about the relationship is that it is kind of an outlier in her guy picking history.
Correct?
I also want to say that his PR team before when the relationship first happened they were interviewed somebody on his team was interviewed and they were like okay so we had planned for the entire year like different things that we were going to do to help promote his image.
Like, go on SNL, do all this.
And they said the only thing that wasn't planned, the thing that shocked us that we never saw coming was this relationship with Taylor.
So that was months and months, I mean a year ago at this point, that that interview came out.
I think that that's interesting to note.
And I also want to note that typical what you see in a PR relationship is you have one celebrity who is a lot lesser than, and then one celebrity that is huge that is needing to gain publicity.
Respectfully, in both of their fields, they're both superstars.
They're both at the top of their game.
But wasn't there that whole thing with all the women being like, Taylor Swift made Travis Kelce famous?
That was more like a joke.
That was just a meme.
But it was kind of true.
It is kind of true.
There was a whole TikTok trend.
He's famous.
He's way bigger though.
He's famous.
Yeah, he got way bigger.
Like, he would be, I would say, you could arguably say he's like a top two most famous NFL player at this point.
Yeah, basically Patrick Mahomes is Tom Brady.
Are we talking about current NFL players?
I don't know who would be bigger than him.
Mahomes.
Mahomes is partly famous because of his wife, which we could get into.
It all ties together.
Mahomes is objectively probably the generational quarterback of his class.
I would say Travis Kelce is a total stud.
I'm not a Travis Kelce hater, actually.
And I sort of agree with the fact that he's the least worst option I've seen Taylor Swift pick.
That being said, if it was an arranged relationship, you know, kudos to the PR guy.
If anything says this is a fake, it's actually, if this was an arranged relationship, they've actually executed it pretty amazingly and pretty flawlessly.
I don't actually believe that, I don't think.
But, I do think because it's such an outlier, it's one of the reasons it's all like, this feels very, and the fact they won the Super Bowl, are you kidding me?
And he didn't even ask her to marry him?
Like on the field afterwards?
Or like go to Disneyland, you know?
I also don't think his dad, Travis Kelsey's dad, Ed, is just like a typical boomer on Facebook and very unfiltered.
He was banned from X I saw at some point.
Really?
I think during 2020 he was banned from X. Oh, juicy.
Well, he was, you know, he, since they've been dating, he shares, shares news about them and talks about her and has given interviews.
And he's just like so smitten with her.
And it's just like, she's the sweetest girl, most down to earth, so polite, good manners, like just so sweet around the family.
I just don't see that guy as being somebody they could control if this is a PR relationship because he almost
shares too much Like you know, the his mom shares a lot and the brother
just got the big Podcasting they both they got over over a million dollars.
Yeah over a hundred million dollars Joe Rogan money That's what Joe Rogan on his first Spotify deal was a
hundred million dollar deal and Travis Kelsey I guess both of them just I didn't realize
But yeah, it's their podcast together.
But I think what's more interesting about that, and I didn't even plan to go into this, but Angelo and I talked about this a little bit last week, was with the Joe Rogan and the Alex Cooper, all of their podcast shows, it comes with their entire catalog of podcasts.
New Heights is a relatively new podcast.
They put out podcasts weekly.
That's their podcast, Jason and Travis.
They put out podcasts weekly during the football season.
They don't put them out weekly all year round, though, like especially during the offseason.
So they only had, I think, 70 or 80 episodes total in their catalog.
There's definitely going to be output production limits.
I mean, Joe Rogan has hundreds of episodes that they are buying when they give him that
$100-plus million contract.
They're giving them $100-plus million for everything that's going to happen in the future.
I mean, even for the possibility of like a Taylor sit-down interview on New Heights, that's worth millions of dollars to them.
Yeah, it's pretty remarkable, actually, what the brand of Taylor Swift can do, not only for herself, but for those around her, which will lead us into our next question topic.
I want to get into this Swifties for Trump thing because I think strategically, it's a very smart move.
Blake is making hand gestures over here.
I will just say, strategically, it makes a lot of sense.
All right?
So, before you turn off to the idea of Swifties for Trump, let's hear it out.
Alex knows a thing or two about it.
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Okay, so let's, Daisy, you wanna make a clarification on the way that Charlie talked about the Britney-
Is this a fact check?
This is a little bit of fact check.
So Brittany Mahomes, for the audience, just to catch everybody up again, liked a Donald Trump post, but we've been saying that she didn't back down, and you have a slight clarification on that.
So she did, and she didn't.
She liked the post, and then everyone was freaking out, and then she put that original thing on her story, Of like, if you're a hater as an adult, you have unresolved childhood trauma.
I don't know if you remember that one.
And then she unliked the post, and then she posted an Abercrombie-sponsored post for the NFL Collection.
And in the comments, which we have the picture of the liked comments, I don't know which one that it is.
52 was the liked comments and she liked Trump Vance 2024, glad to see her not backing down.
And then she had them up for about an hour or two.
I remember I texted Alex when I saw that she liked them and then she unliked them pretty
quickly after.
But what I think my guess as to what happened was Abercrombie is a pretty liberal company.
Yes.
The Trevor Project.
They said do this on another post.
One of their big, big sponsors and so I would guess that Abercrombie said do not like this on your sponsored post.
She probably has a quote of sponsored post she has to do for Abercrombie and they said this one will not count if you like these comments, etc, etc.
That's really fair.
Yeah, the Trevor Project, which is like let's fund kids transitions or whatever, is like the main charity they ask you to donate to when you check out there.
This is the corruption of American businesses.
She technically did double down after liking the original post, but both things she has since unliked.
But then Trump came out and said, you know, thank you, Brittany.
Very beautiful, Brittany.
Shocked me.
Really?
I felt my bunghole clench a little bit.
That's image 55, if you want to throw that up.
That was Trump's true social.
Says, I want to thank beautiful Brittany Mahomes for so strongly defending me and the fact that MAGA is the greatest and most powerful political movement in the history of our now failing country.
Anyways, it goes on and calls them a beautiful couple.
And then he'll see them at the Super Bowl.
And he'll see them, yeah, which is a prediction, by the way.
It is a prediction that I think they'll be in the Super Bowl and also that Trump will be the president attending the Super Bowl.
Correct.
That was that was another side note there.
He'll be the president elect.
So wait.
Yeah, he might be president.
So the so I do want to get past Taylor Swift here because there is more going on.
But the Swifties for Trump.
So so Alex, this is kind of this is I'm going to be looking at you here.
You are the one of the chief Swifties for Trump before there was even a Swifties for Trump kind of moniker.
True, ride or die, the one conservative.
It's the number one thing my audience hates about me.
It's the most controversial thing about me is that I love Taylor Swift.
You have a lot of controversial takes, like raw milk, circumcision, like a bunch of stuff.
It's every day.
Andrew's fielding, you know, press inquiries about some other controversial thing I've said about food.
Exactly.
What is Alex on now?
Anyway, so Swifties for Trump became like a thing somehow, and I actually love it strategically because I do think there is truth.
If I was to Do a cross-section of Taylor Swift's audience.
I mean, you guys are Swifties.
You're not voting for Kamala Harris.
I would say it's probably like 50-50, maybe 60-40 lib to conservative, maybe slightly more lib her audience.
Do you disagree with that take?
I feel like there's a lot of conservative women that listen to her music.
Oh, there's tons of conservative women that listen to her music.
She's the biggest artist in the entire world now.
And to the levels of Michael Jackson, Prince, Whitney Houston, Britney Spears, she will go down as, whether you like or not, her stardom, her superpower, her Influence is of the likes of those other artists the
Beatles She is in there also her tour now number one best-selling
tour of all time, and she's got a long track record That's the other thing right years and years multiple hit
number ones. I mean so she is a massive star So yes when you're talking about somebody that is that big
of a celebrity of course you're going to have fans of all different religions
political views she across all
Demographics every race every age group when you go to it when you won't go to the eras tour
You've got kids there as up to like grandpas are there.
So everyone loves Taylor Swift.
So of course there's bound to be conservatives.
And that might be because she is the most popular she's ever been.
Maybe her team came to her again and said, please, Let's not fumble the bag.
We're doing so well.
Everybody loves you.
If you come out and say something, then we're gonna all of a sudden again create all this division, you know, amongst fans.
Like, let's finish up the tour.
This is my question.
Is it kind of like that Michael Jordan moment, right?
Where Republicans buy sneakers too?
Like, is this enough pressure?
Or is she going to simply go, well they still love me and I did it once already and I feel a moral obligation to do it again?
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You are personally very nervous, Alex, about the fact that Trump put this on Truth Social thanking Brittany Mahomes.
Why are you nervous?
I am nervous because it was very mysterious, her liking those comments and unliking those comments.
She didn't publicly just post, I am endorsing President Trump, uh, you know, for President 2024.
So I'm nervous that he has, you know, he will have rattled her.
Yeah.
And for her to then be prompted, be like, Oh, that's not what happened.
I, you know, I don't endorse you.
I'm just scared.
It will scare.
I think it's really good that this happened yesterday, late yesterday.
And she hasn't said anything about it since she hasn't said, That's insane.
That's ridiculous.
That's not true.
I devour him.
So that's good news.
So maybe she is voting for Trump and we'll get some kind of photo op of Patrick Mahomes and Brittany Mahomes at a Trump rally before November.
That would be incredible.
That would be great.
That would be great.
I don't foresee it.
I don't foresee it either.
I also want to just point out, if Brittany Mahomes is truly voting for President Trump, and she's not going to come out and deny that she is, that shows incredible moral bravery and character on her part, because she is now very, very close friends with Taylor Swift, who may or may not say, I can't be seen, pictured, hanging out with Brittany anymore.
This is a PR nightmare for me because it looks like I condone her supporting Trump.
Like, she's risking a lot that she's gained in the last year with her friendship with Taylor by not denying it.
So I think that that's really admirable.
I think that we'll know more tonight, because we have pictures of them in the suites together at all the games.
They watch pretty much every game together.
Last year, so I think we will know more, which will tell us where Taylor's leaning.
I mean, I don't see her voting anything other than Democrat, but if she's going to speak out about the election.
But here's the other thing that I think it's like, oh, this just this all makes it so juicy.
It's the RFK Jr.
endorsement.
So let me explain to you.
Don't we have this video or something?
Taylor Swift, for those who don't know, way back in the day, dated Conor Kennedy, who is RFK Jr.'
's son.
She is very close with the Kennedy family.
She has written multiple songs about the Kennedy family.
She has read every book that exists on the Kennedy family.
She loves RFK, okay?
She knows that he is a good person, and so if this is somebody who's been a lifelong Democrat saying there's something deeply corrupt with this party, you need to be voting for Trump, and I'm endorsing Trump, Maybe Taylor seeing that, like, oh my gosh, is there maybe something that I've been duped on when it comes to staunchly supporting Democrats and hating Trump?
I'm just saying, even if she... That's not gonna happen.
Even if she... I'm not saying she's gonna endorse Trump.
She might stay silent.
She might stay silent and just not endorse anybody.
That's the win here.
Or maybe she's saying, I'm not voting.
That's the win here.
Does she stay silent?
And what if she just comes out and says, I'm voting for Trump, and if you're not a Trump supporter, you shouldn't be a Taylor Swift.
Here's the big question, okay?
We're gonna play 109.
Tell me about this video.
Alex, when was this video from?
This is her saying the Marsha Blackburn thing.
What is this? 2019?
Yeah, so this is from her Miss Americana documentary that's on Netflix of her explaining why she needed to start getting political on social media.
But I will say this does... I mean, what, Taylor Swift's 33, right?
Or 34?
So this would have been like five years ago.
So she was like 28 and she was just finding her voice.
She was like becoming like a grown woman kind of stage.
Like, I'm not trying to actually belittle that.
I'm just saying at 34, she might be past this sort of like...
Fair pay for women.
She votes against the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, which is just basically protecting us from domestic abuse and stalking.
it in her bones, her core, that she needed to speak out on this.
It's really basic human rights, and it's right and wrong at this point.
And I can't see another commercial and see her disguising these policies behind the words, Tennessee Christian values.
Those aren't Tennessee Christian values.
I live in Tennessee.
I am Christian.
That's not what we stand for.
Well, she's not Christian anymore, correct?
Or just TBD?
I don't know why.
That was very shocking to me that she said that.
I mean, if anything, she's a nominal Christian.
She's Christian in name only, obviously.
But everything she just said in that clip is just completely false.
I get a kick out of, or look like a gay couple.
I'm picturing these straight bros who just look really gay.
They're sitting too close in a tight booth.
Martial Law.
Two bros, chillin' in a hot tub.
We're not gay!
Turns out it's just it's just white dudes for Kamala.
That video though is what makes me so curious as to where her mind is at right now because she has people around her that are now supporting Trump.
She doesn't have many people.
Well Patrick Mahomes I'm convinced is a winger.
He's like a closeted right winger.
I would not be surprised.
And, you know, Britney thinking the way she is.
Like, oftentimes that happens, like, the two move as one.
I mean, you will find couples where, I mean, they were high school sweethearts, so they picked each other before they were probably thinking.
I'm sure they're both voting for Trump.
I'm pretty sure they both are.
When a celebrity, like, is careful to not say anything these days, it usually she knows that it implies that either
a winger or they're like a weird Aaron Rodgers type who's gonna vote for
you know well this is kind of a... do a write-in for... yeah what we
were talking about during the break which is that
I like before the break the Michael Jordan thing like Republicans buy shoes too
And I think that, from a business perspective, and we all know Taylor's a huge businesswoman, huge capitalist, I mean, she has the whole Green Party against her for her private jet and her flying across the country multiple times.
And I think that her best-case scenario is to just say nothing.
That's our best-case scenario, too, is for her to just say nothing.
What if Kamala is...
I was just gonna say, if she does say something, I think it's because she genuinely believes so much in Kamala and the left-wing movement.
Yeah, that's what that clip tells me.
What if she's irate about the Kamala wealth tax or the unrealized gains tax?
Even Mark Cuban came out against that.
She's rich enough and that would be relevant to her.
So we're gonna go around the table and then we're gonna move on from T-Swift.
Is she going to endorse or not?
Yes or no?
Starting with Blake.
I'm just going to say she's going to endorse, I'm just going to be the optimist, she's going to endorse Trump and say you shouldn't be a fan of her music.
I think she will say nothing.
I hope she'll say nothing.
I'm leaning towards say nothing and that she'll use the excuse of my safety.
Everybody's too radicalized.
I've had terror threats now from ISIS.
I have to, sorry, I have to stay silent.
This was your big Twitter thread that went off where you were like, when she, the terrorist threat against her in Europe, you were like, hey, Trump killed ISIS and That would almost be stronger than a normal endorsement though.
She's like, basically, I would endorse Kamala except that Trump fans are so evil they would kill me if I did it.
She's stayed pretty silent on the Israel-Palestine stuff.
Yeah, she hasn't said anything.
Her fans have been pretty irate about that.
They've wanted her to say something.
Wow, interesting.
It's crazy the world she lives in where everybody's like begging you to say something.
I mean, we know that to some extent here at Turning Point.
I mean, we get calls all the time like, you gotta speak out about this, you gotta speak out.
And it's, you know, it's not always as clean or as clear-cut as people want it to be.
Okay, we are moving on, finally, from T-Swift and Travis Kelsey and the Chiefs and Brittany Mahomes and all that stuff.
We are, I think we're gonna go to, what do you want to do?
Mormon, the Mormon story?
There are two influencer stories.
I think we should start with the non-Mormon influencer story.
So, you've heard about this a little bit.
There's a girl, Brooke Schofield, Who is on a podcast called Cancelled with Tana Mongeau.
I don't know how you say her last name.
But Tana's been around for a long, long time.
She's one of the OG YouTube creators.
And she's been cancelled so many times.
Tana's been cancelled countless times that she named her podcast Cancelled for, like, some irony.
And then Brooke is one of her best friends.
Brooke became an influencer.
Brooke is actually from Arizona.
And Brooke was on the canceled podcast, they did it together, and then Brooke's racist tweets came out.
Racist as in actually racist or racist in quotes?
Racist to a liberal.
Okay, racist to a liberal.
Some of them are not racist.
Let's vote racist.
That's so funny that there's two categories.
Is it really racist or just racist to a liberal?
It's like the most clear way you could say it.
Okay, so here's the tweets.
We have to read them.
I will not be reading these out loud.
Oh, they're really that bad?
Are they that bad?
Are they really racist?
I don't want to.
What image are they?
I mean, there's some of them that are pretty... They had it up on screen a second ago.
There's some of them that are pretty non-offensive.
I said so many... Okay, I'll read this one.
What do you call a Mexican baptism?
Bean dip.
I mean, so it's like, edgy.
What year did she write that in?
That's like a middle school joke.
2010 and 2013.
Yeah, 2010 and 2013, people were saying stuff like that.
Which she was, I think, 18, 19, 20.
Oh, come on.
At the time.
That is straight up just, that's what kids do, and like, my first transgressive joke is like, yeah, you tell.
Totally.
She said the F word, as in, like, the gay slur.
Oh, the F-A-E word.
She said...
Like, why do I have the most ratchet hair ever?
Oh, guarantee if Zimmerman, you remember George Zimmerman?
This is the majority.
This is the tweet?
Guarantee if Zimmerman shot a white guy, this wouldn't even be a story.
Newsflash, this wasn't a crime of racism, it was self-defense.
So a lot of her comments are, donate to the Trayvon Martin Foundation, donate to the Trayvon Martin Foundation, we won't forgive you until you donate to the Trayvon Martin Foundation.
Obama's son.
The reason that this is really interesting to me is because this is very similar to the 2020 cancellations.
I mean, she instantly lost brand deals.
Tana came out with a podcast after that was like broken.
We have that clip too.
Well, how old was she?
She was 18, 19, 20 when she was tweeting these things.
Has she issued a public statement?
So she issued a lot of things.
She came out with a video and was just like rambling, I'm so sorry.
Oh, so she bent the knee.
Teary-eyed.
I'm so sorry.
And that's what really reminded me of the 2020 stuff, too, because it was very much a formulaic... Okay, yes.
So Stassi Schroeder was, like, the original, like, influencer or whatever that got canceled for racism in 2020.
It was during the BLM stuff.
It was her and another girl, right?
Yeah, it was another Vanderpump cast member.
Kristen Doty.
The only reason I know this is because Stassi ended up marrying one of my friends in L.A., when I lived in L.A., Beau, really good guy.
And Stassi?
I saw Stassi at church a couple times.
With Bo.
And so that was interesting.
And then all of a sudden she gets cancelled.
And I just thought... And it was like over... The allegation was that there was a story about a black suspect that had done something.
They thought it looked like their castmate from the show.
They reported it to the police.
And everybody said that was racist.
Because it was just like... You just thought... I don't know if they were saying it was bad because she was...
The implication is that she thinks all black people look the same, and that's where the racism comes in.
Or that they were just doing something mean to their black castmate or whatever.
This was during 2020, right?
This was during 2020.
So it's just interesting to see a story like this come back around full circle, and now we have influencers that are on uncancellable podcasts, apparently, get cancelled.
Yeah, so then Tana did a video where she was like, I'm clearly not with Not with Brooke.
I don't know where that video went.
It's fine.
But she was like, I'm clearly not with Brooke.
I wanted to sit down and say, as a white person, I can't understand what our other listeners are going through.
Well, they bent the knee.
That's the main gist of it.
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Actually, a lot of exciting announcements that people don't know coming out on Monday, 9am.
And for those who don't realize, our audience maybe doesn't always overlap with yours, but your podcast has grown a lot.
Well, actually, Charlie has been getting into a lot of the subject matter I cover.
So if you have liked Charlie's episodes recently, like the one with Callie Means, if that was an episode that you really liked or you enjoyed watching Callie on Tucker, I've interviewed Callie.
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So those types of doctors, experts in health and wellness, really offering a countercultural look at food, pharma, And also just society, culture as we know it, you know, parenting, things like that.
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And it's a different expert guest every episode with a different subject.
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All right, so we've got, speaking of countercultural, this is not exactly what Mormons are known for, but there is a new reality show or something coming out?
Yes, so it comes out tomorrow, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
I will be sitting with my popcorn watching this show.
I'm so interested because back in 2022 there was this group of mom talk influencers on TikTok.
They were all Mormon moms in Utah and basically the scandal came to light that this whole group of mom talk influencers were all swingers.
How did that come to light?
How did that come to light?
It came to light because one of them, Taylor Frankie Paul, got divorced and she said that
she was getting divorced because she stepped outside of the swinging boundaries that they
already had.
So they had...
So she got even more freaky.
Basically it was like these parties that they would have and then at the end of the night,
at the end of the party, all of the husbands and wives would start doing stuff with each
other, but it was all known.
So then she started doing stuff with another husband in the group that was not... her husband didn't know about it.
In wonderful American fashion, we thought, let's give them a show!
Yeah!
Let's spread the values far and wide!
It blew up, it all came to light, and then they've been working on this show ever since then.
And it's...
It's all the girls from that same group and it talks about how they were getting divorced, talks about their relationships with drinking or not being a part of the Mormon Church or like they're partying all this stuff so it's kind of I've seen a lot of people on TikTok that are really devout Mormons that have spoken out about this and been like this is not what we stand for this is not we want but it's kind of turned into like an expose in a way of this group of people that I think a lot of people are worried this is going to Like, come across like they're speaking for the Mormon culture.
Right.
Well, obviously these are outliers.
Well, it's very interesting just because there is a real nexus between Mormonism and influencer culture.
Oh, it's so true.
Mormon mommy blogs are an entire genre unto themselves.
Like, basically every popular Instagram blogger is Mormon.
Well, it's a facet of Mormonism that you should essentially, you know, project.
Like, you know, they have the missionary thing.
They do the missionary stuff abroad.
And so kind of the domestic version of that is you should like be public about your Mormon life.
And they're also entrepreneurial.
There's a dark underside to this, which is you have people who are kind of Like sociopathically, they're basically misrepresenting what they do because they're clearly not really following Mormonism.
It can tend to create a double, like a hidden life versus their public persona.
I think also what was different for them was, especially in that culture, a lot of the men are the breadwinners, the women are, and that's kind of why they started to become famous, was because they're all stay-at-home moms.
Mommy bloggers just started writing about their lives, posting about fashion, posting about hair stuff, and then they kind of blew up.
Amber Filler up, I think, was like the beginning.
of the mormon bloggers and that net then these women
started making ten times the amount of money their husbands are making and i
think that it really change their dynamic uh... where is this comes out
this week it comes out tomorrow on what channel who look secret lives of mormon
wives you're watching
Let me know.
I apologize for informing our audience about such a show.
Alex, Daisy, Blake, thank you for joining us on this re-upping of the Pop Culture Power Hour back by popular demand.
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