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Sept. 1, 2024 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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How Can We Know God's Plan for the Country? My Speech at Legacy Church

Enjoy Charlie's speech from Legacy Church in Albuquerque, New Mexico. He discusses the race against Kamala, the right way to pray for America, and how we can determine what "God's Plan" really is. He takes questions questions on where strong Christians have gone, idolatry, and more.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, everybody.
Thank you.
You guys can be seated.
Well, Mr. Kirk, thank you for coming to Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Thank you, I'll tell you what.
There is fight left in this state, am I right?
There is fight left in this state.
And so, Charlie, when he comes, we just like to have a discussion, and he's brilliant with what he does.
I personally, I forget how long ago I met you, but I instantly thought, this is a guy that's standing, it was during, before, at the beginning of COVID, and I thought, here we have a guy that's not in the ministry, doesn't pastor church, standing up for America, and standing up, more importantly, for the church of the Lord Jesus Christ.
And I wanna, I want to publicly say thank you for standing up.
I know you get lots of persecution, more than most people probably realize, and you still fight.
But you know what?
We get a lot of love, too, and I feel that tonight, so thank you.
And I'll tell you, this is a dark moment right now in our country's history, and every single patriot, every citizen, and most importantly, Every follower of Jesus Christ is going to have to stand up at this time.
And we're going to talk about that tonight, and what an amazing welcome in a place where I'm told that, you know, New Mexico is a lost cause.
People say that it's a waste of time.
I see something very different tonight.
Yeah, I do.
You know, I just want to say one thing, and I'll throw it back at Steve.
This is a great man, Steve Smotherman.
I'll tell you what, he is a great man.
I met Steve during COVID and, you know, very few churches would have me during COVID because a lot of churches decided to go live stream.
And the live stream is very similar to watching a fireplace on YouTube.
You get all the effects, but no warmth.
And Steve invited me out.
I'd never met him before.
And within five minutes, I said, I like this guy.
He shoots from the hip.
He loves Jesus, loves America, and he's willing to fight.
And that was during all of that.
Nonsense with the governor.
And Steve's like, I got five orders of arrest from the governor.
I told her to come arrest me.
I said, this is the type of pastor that we need in this country.
And let me be even more clear.
If we had a thousand Steve Smothermans in this country, this country would be saved.
I truly believe that.
We can go.
No, I'm kidding, yeah.
You know, so I'm gonna just ask Charlie to talk about a few things, and so if it's okay with you, Charlie, let's talk about how you say your name.
I say Kamala.
What's the other way they say it?
So I used to say Kamala, and you say Kamala, and it's technically, I think, Kamala.
Is what I think it is.
And I say this because I want to give people, even though I don't think she's ever earned respect from me or from our country, because I think she's a terrible person, I do want to give people the respect to say the name correctly.
So I think it's Kamala.
Kamala.
So if I say it wrong, folks, I don't mean to.
It's just when I learn somebody's name a certain way, that's how I say it.
So let's talk, if it's okay with you, about Kamala.
See?
He's getting it.
It's tearing me up, by the way.
Let's talk about what is happening in the country.
You know, the debate was the earliest debate in the history of America.
And so there was a plan to get rid of Biden and to put the worst politician ranked ever to run for president.
So talk to us about what that will mean for the country if this woman ever Well, we first must remember, she's the current Vice President of the United States.
She doesn't like you reminding her of that.
She tries to act as if she's some outsider.
You know, when I'm President, I'm going to lower house prices and secure the border.
Why don't you do that today, Kamala Harris?
You're the Vice President of the United States, okay?
But, let's kind of take a step back, because it's very important.
The fix was in, and you lived through A deep state coup against Joe Biden.
Now, I'm not a fan of Joe Biden, nor are you.
In fact, I would go as far to say I think he's a traitor to the country, okay?
But what happened to Joe Biden was very similar to what happened to Richard Nixon and many other presidents prior, where they launched a coup against Joe Biden.
Where, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, they're like, oh yeah, we're gonna have a debate in late June.
For those of us that do this for a living, we knew that something suspicious was happening.
Earliest debate in presidential history, and the plan was afoot to remove Joe Biden and replace him with Kamala Harris.
And this was a plan that was launched by Barack Obama, who's actually in charge of the country.
This is Obama's third term that we're living through.
Let's be very clear.
This is not Joe Biden's term.
This is Obama's third term.
And Joe Biden did as we would expect at the debate.
And here's what was amazing.
Here's how you knew the fix was in.
For those of us that watch the news on a daily basis, we saw Joe Biden's debate performance.
We're like, it's actually a pretty good day for him.
And I know you might laugh, but like we see him do much, much worse.
Like Joe Biden versus the stairs, for example, doesn't always go well.
And And we're like, hey, he made it through, right?
So when I watch debates, my whole team is in one room and I wall myself off with no social media.
And I do this because I don't want my opinion of the debate to be changed by what other people are saying.
And then I'll go watch what other people are saying.
And right after the debate, I was like, well, you know, I think Trump did fine.
I think he won, but I don't think this is catastrophic for Biden.
The reaction from the media, though, was as if it was the worst thing you've ever heard.
And I said, the fix is in.
CNN, immediately, they're like, we're already hearing some calls from top Democrats that we need to remove Joe Biden and that Joe Biden has to go.
And understand the specific, precise timing, which is one month ago from this weekend, one month ago, on July 13th in Butler, Pennsylvania, Donald Trump gets shot and he was supposed to be dead.
And only because of the grace of our God is Donald Trump alive.
And understand, so Donald Trump gets shot, RNC happens, and the whole RNC programming was about against Joe Biden, against Joe Biden, against Joe Biden.
Now, at my speech, I did attack them both because I smelled something.
I said, something's happening here.
We then, that following weekend, that following Sunday, Joe Biden says, you know, I'm actually, I'm not into it.
I'm, I'm done and I'm going to pass the baton to the next generation.
And then 12 hours, Kamala Harris went from the most unlikable, the most hated politician, to all of a sudden, like Obama 3.0, drawing crowds like we've never seen before.
There is an amazing old British play, and many of you have used this term before, and it is well known in psychology.
The play is literally called Gaslight.
And those of you that have dealt with people, or maybe you've lived with people in abusive relationships, gaslighting is a serious thing.
Gaslighting, in the play Gaslight, it goes where a British couple, they're living together in a flat in downtown London, and the wife keeps on coming home, and she says, honey, is it me, or is the apartment getting darker?
And he was turning down the light every night, a little bit, and he would say, no, no, you're losing your mind.
It's actually not getting darker.
And eventually, like, there was no light, and she's like, honey, I think it's getting darker.
No, no, no, you're losing your mind.
And this is where we get the term gaslighting from, to be gaslit, which is where you know something is happening and people tell you you're crazy.
Well, that's exactly what's going on right now, where they're telling you Kamala Harris is popular and likeable, like, no, no, no, no, she can't do a press conference, can't take questions, You hated her, you know, three weeks ago, now all of a sudden she's the greatest thing ever.
No, shut up, you're stupid.
And it's creating this effect where a lot of people are very confused of what's really going on.
And it's telling in two ways.
Number one, it's very telling how sheep-like and how, like, pawns the base of the Democrat Party is.
They don't have an independent thought, they do what they are told, and they are deployed.
Yes, we now love Kamala Harris.
I mean, they're all of a sudden saying, like, They're saying like she's part of Brat Summer and all this nonsense and she's the most likable person ever.
The second thing, which I think is the more astute observation, is how many of you during COVID you said they're doing a dress rehearsal?
It is a dress rehearsal for what is to come.
We didn't really know what the dress rehearsal was for.
It could be for World Economic Forum, for the Great Reset.
What if the COVID propaganda was a dress rehearsal for the Kamala propaganda?
I want you to think about it.
Somebody said to me the other day, said, Charlie, are the American people that gullible where they're really going to vote for her?
I said, I saw lots of people driving cars alone with masks on during COVID.
Okay.
Right.
You know what I'm talking about?
People showered with masks on.
I met somebody that got their ninth booster shot.
No, no, maybe you guys didn't.
That's fine.
Hope it works out for you.
Um, I learned a lot during COVID at how the power of brute, aggressive propaganda is very, very, very powerful.
And I think, I think the exact same techniques they're using, for example, she will not take questions.
It is hyper ferocious in their campaign and their ability to intimidate anybody that stands up to her.
You're a racist, you're a terrible person.
And then the media is completely in the bag for her.
So the state of the race is very clear.
They've tried to reset it.
The fundamentals of the race remain the same, which is, it's gonna require millions of American patriots like all of you to call, it's a church, so I won't say the word, BS on this in real time, and to say, in addition, no, we're being gaslit.
This person is one of the, first of all, she's not just unlikable, she is a communist.
Let me say that again.
She is a communist at her core.
And I'll prove it to you, by the way.
I'll throw it back to you in a second here, Steve, because I know you have strong opinions about her.
I heard you did a rant on her.
Her whole quote, she says, we're going to be unburdened by what has been, and we're going to go build... It's easy to laugh because it sounds like word salad.
This is pure Marxist propaganda.
The past means nothing.
What has happened means nothing.
So your statues, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, the Bible, Jesus Christ, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, unburdened by what has been, and then we will be able to be free for what can be.
That is the elimination of everything prior.
That's exactly what Mao Zedong did in The Great Leap Forward.
For those of you that are my Cuban friends in the audience, any Cuban friends here in the audience?
Well, this is not South Florida, so I'd have a lot of hands go up if it was.
There is a phrase in Cuba called el nuevo hombre, which is the new brother, or the new man, if you will.
And the new man is this idea that we unshackle you from what has been, and we create you into a new person.
It was Castro's plan of eradicating all of human history prior, and history starts with us.
In the French Revolution, when they took over, they started with year zero.
They burned all the history books, they eliminated the history prior to it.
And that is just touching the surface on it.
And I will say this, In closing on this one thought, I'm not saying that you have to vote for Trump if you're a Christian.
I think you should.
I think the worldview is the best fit.
I will be as bold to say this.
If you are a Christian who votes for Kamala Harris, that is a desecration to the Lord.
It is a desecration to the Lord.
I agree.
What the?
And it's demonic, too, what she's saying.
It's satanic, right?
And folks, we've got someone running for the President of the United States that is embracing Satanism.
I've said this, you know, Charlie, several times, that if anybody, and I say it this way, if you're a liberal Democrat, there's no such thing as a Christian liberal Democrat.
You're either Christian or you're not.
And liberal means that you don't believe the Bible.
Liberal means that, you know, in my, the way I term it or define it, is you really don't believe in God.
You're of a party spirit.
And the Galatians talks about a party spirit.
And so too many people are from Democrat, Republican, instead of Christian.
And we got to be Christians first, right?
Amen, and I want to address this because some people say, but Charlie, how could I vote for Trump because of all of his moral failures and all that?
Which is, when you vote, you are not appointing someone to your church elder board, and your vote is not a valentine of who best fits, you know, your personal feelings.
A vote is a chess move of which worldview better fits with your worldview that will keep your grandkids in a country that is free.
That is what your vote needs to be.
And it is, we must all recognize that we, of course we see Trump's faults or his, you know, shortcomings.
We all have them.
But we also see his virtues.
That we want a strong border, or a border of any type.
That we believe that we should stand with Israel.
That we believe that we should stand with the unborn.
That we want strong Supreme Court justices that we got under Donald Trump.
And look what Kamala Harris is saying.
Number one, let's just focus on one of the many, many issues.
She is the border czar still to this day.
All of the human trafficking that we're seeing on the border, all of the sex trade on the border, all of the drugs that I know that are hurting your state terribly right now, she is responsible for that.
She is currently the Vice President of the United States.
We have to keep on repeating it because if you watch her rallies, you know what she does?
She never mentions just one thing that she did or has done.
Because you must be unburdened by what has been.
So she's unburdened by her record.
Because she doesn't like running on her record to see what could possibly be.
Secondly, let's talk about the issue of abortion.
New Mexico, unfortunately, is one of the late-term abortion capitals of America.
I believe that there is a spiritual darkness in this state because of that.
I really do.
Minnesota, where Bernie Sanders of the Beer Belly, Tim Walz, is from, he's the governor from Minnesota, also has late-term abortion.
Now in Minnesota, I don't know if New Mexico they publish these numbers or not, but in Minnesota they stopped publishing it.
Every year there would be a thing called abortion survivors or babies that would be full-term that survived the abortion and then basically the abortionist has to then terminate the baby on an operating table.
It's hard for many of you to hear this.
I want you to understand that if Kamala Harris gets her way, every state will be like New Mexico when it comes.
to post-birth abortion.
It's not an exaggeration.
Secondly, let's talk about the trans issue.
Her running mate, Tim Walls, has said that a 10-year-old can choose their gender.
Tim Walls, her running mate, put tampons in boys' bathrooms in the state of Minnesota.
Tampon Tim.
It's not an exaggeration, by the way.
It's kind of creepy and weird.
Very, by the way, very weird.
You heard I say that?
It's very, they're very weird people.
Anyway, if you don't get the joke, you live a very happy life.
Because they've been trying to call us weird.
You know who's weird?
The ones that allow men in thongs to dance in front of children.
You guys are the weird ones, okay?
So, Kamala Harris wrote a special letter to Dylan Mulvaney saying, congratulations, living authentically, you're the most amazing person ever, You know who she did not write a letter to or even say the names of?
The 13 Afghan veterans who died at the Afghan withdrawal.
Not even mentioning their name.
That's right.
Semper Fi.
And thank you for all you who served.
And never forget those Marines who died.
This is not just the most radical ticket.
She is the most radical vice president in American history.
And I believe she has an unclean spirit that she's trying to unleash on the rest of this country.
From no borders, from war, and let's just say, maybe you're not convinced by that, she will bring forward hyperinflation and a mass economic depression that will make what you've lived through these last four years seem like nothing.
From every issue, from gun confiscation to banning fracking, which will be economically devastating for southeastern New Mexico in the Permian Shale, right?
Permian Basin?
Not to mention, she says that she wants to pass a Green New Deal, add potential seats to the Supreme Court.
And for those of you that came to this country legally, and immigrated to this country legally, you deserve great credit.
She wants to punish you.
Because she wants to give taxpayer-funded benefits for people that have come to this country illegally.
Breaking the social contract there.
And so, I'm just beginning to get into this here, Steve, but I believe right now that we're heading into a moment where there is this mass spiritual blindness over the country, and we need to pray that God will break that cloud and break the veil, and that people will see this clearly for what it is.
Because the dark spirits of this country are hard at work.
You know why?
They know that if we the people get our way in November and Donald Trump becomes president, That this country will not fall and this country can and will be saved.
This is the most important civilizational struggle of our lifetime.
You know, John, let me back up because people and what he's telling us about Kamala, I'm saying it wrong again.
Kamala.
Kamala.
Maybe I should just say camel.
You're fine, you're fine.
You're close.
But you know, and people realize that's where she wants to take the country, which would be devastating to the church.
Because you don't think they're going to come after us?
And people think that politics is a personality It's about who's the most likable, instead of a policy thing.
When you were talking about, you know, Donald Trump and some of his moral failures, I was sitting in my house, and just so you guys know, my wife, when he came down the escalator and running for 2016, she said, I'm voting for him.
I said, what?
I said, why are you voting for him?
She goes, I like him.
And then this stuff came out about the bus thing.
You know, the bus where he said all those things about women.
And I said, what do you think now?
And she says to me, all you men are the same way.
She goes, you're a man, we got it.
And then those football players are like, we don't talk like that in the locker room.
I've been in the locker rooms.
They talk worse than that.
And I think, Shawnee, what people, I think, and you're the expert on this, people need to realize this is not a personality conflict.
This is a substantive, it's a policy.
Whose policies are the best?
It's about a worldview.
Let's go even a step further.
How do you view the world?
Donald Trump views the world that America is a great and decent country that should be brought to prosperity and brought back to strength.
Kamala Harris views America as a stain on the world.
She views America as something that must be destroyed and obliterated.
Donald Trump views every human life made in the image of God and deserving of protection.
Kamala Harris thinks that you're just a clump of cells and you could be eliminated and discarded.
Donald Trump believes in a worldview where the Supreme Court should have justices that believe in the Constitution Understand the Constitution.
She believes in justices that can't tell you what a woman is, like the Tangy Brown Jackson, that want to destroy the United States Constitution.
Donald Trump believes in a worldview where he will protect your Second Amendment and your right to bear arms.
Kamala Harris believes in a worldview where, no, only the government owns weapons.
Donald Trump believes that the church will never be called non-essential again.
Kamala Harris believes Like she was at the California Attorney General, that Christian charities, pregnancy crisis centers, and pro-life groups, we want to get rid of those.
Donald Trump believes in a worldview where we want less war and we want our enemies to fear us again.
Kamala Harris wants more war and wants to cozy up to our enemies because that's what she has been doing as Vice President of the United States.
Donald Trump will do everything he possibly can to end The unspeakable sin of child sex trafficking occurring in our country.
Kamala Harris, as Vice President, has done nothing to stop the 88,000 missing children.
Do you know there's 88,000 missing kids from the border?
Next time your Democrat friend tells your voting Democrat, say, you know there's 88,000 missing kids under the Harris regime?
And no one's doing anything about it?
Where are those kids?
Child prostitutes?
Labor?
Sex slaves?
Child pornography?
88,000 kids that just disappeared, and she couldn't care less.
Donald Trump's worldview is one of, there is a God, and he is not him.
Kamala Harris' worldview is, if there was a God, it would be me.
Kamala Harris' worldview is one that is rooted in the same sort of Demonic activity that we see repeated throughout the scriptures.
Donald Trump's worldview is one where he understands that family as a backbone, as a bedrock of society is necessary for liberty.
I could go on and on about all the differences of the worldview.
I don't care about what Donald Trump puts on Truth Social or on Twitter because the worldview long outlives the personality.
The worldview is what impacts your grandkids.
And even if you can come to yourself to say, like, yeah, I think Kamala Harris is really likable.
If that's your take, that's very bizarre, okay?
Even if you think that she's more, you know, a better person or whatever, which she isn't, obviously, you don't live under that.
You're being propagandized.
You are being controlled by something else.
And this is why they must do everything they possibly can to stop him.
This is why they had to twice impeach him, four times indictment, and shoot him.
And for people that still are unmoved, and I'm just going to speak to the men in this audience and also, you know, the women who like strong men, which thankfully in this church is quite a lot of women.
You know, I, you know, people say, you know, Trump has a problem with the women vote and all this.
And I say, okay, that's fine.
And, you know, at simultaneous they'll interview these, these women and I can't find a strong man.
I can't find a strong man.
Like how do you vote for one?
And they said, why is Donald Trump strong?
We have a great UFC fighter up here who does a great job, and I was meeting him earlier.
I don't know if, even if you were shot, you would react the way that Donald Trump got shot.
Donald Trump gets shot, everybody, and he stands up and he says, fight, fight, fight.
This is a very important point.
Very important point.
Our leaders are so disconnected from combat.
For the last 600 years in Western civilization, our leaders are no longer in the front lines.
George Washington was maybe the last one.
So you really don't know who's a coward and who isn't.
They all talk a tough game, right?
They all say that they're willing to fight for you and they're willing to stand, you know, stare evil in the face.
But you don't really know.
And it's a guessing game.
In that 10 second moment, you saw a window into who he actually is.
And here's the other important part.
Did you notice how the audience did not panic?
Why was that?
It's because, exactly, they saw a strong man with cool under fire.
When the leader doesn't panic, And the leader tells his followers, it's going to be okay.
Imagine if Donald Trump acted in a different way.
If he ran off stage, get me out of here, get me out of here.
He had the poise and the composure to stand, to go up and tell his audience, fight, fight, fight.
You know, he wanted to finish the speech and they didn't let him.
And I'll make one other point on this, which I think is important.
If any other political leader, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, would have gotten shot or even shot at, we would have still, that would still be the number one news story in the country a month later.
We would have documentaries, Hulu specials, Netflix specials.
We would have everyone from Matthew McConaughey to Scarlett Johansson.
They'd all want to be involved in somehow of the new movie, right?
Six different spinoffs.
The way they have memory hold that event, Is creepy.
You know you can't even find the picture sometimes on search engines?
I see one of our shirts over there, by the way.
We did a limited edition shirt.
And because they want to get rid of it because they know it actually hurts them big time.
Because in that moment, all the propaganda was put aside.
In that moment, there was no lying.
There was no... It was just one picture right there of the man you are supposed to hate.
And by the way, this is how repulsive these people are, Steve?
A couple weeks later, they go on TV and they say, oh, he's a coward because he won't debate Kamala Harris.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Unlike Tim Walz, Donald Trump was actually shot.
I wish New Mexico would wake up.
up.
We have a beautiful state.
But I want to say something with that.
This room can take back the state.
A couple thousand people staying true to the fight can change a state.
I'm telling you.
Look, Steve, this is an amazing turnout.
It's great.
I'm glad this is the best we've ever had.
Right.
And look, it's going to require it's going to be a grind of work.
You want a revival.
A revival only happens if you have repentance.
Repentance must precede a revival.
And New Mexico will only be saved if people will get down on their hands and knees and ask for mercy and forgiveness from Almighty God, saying, forgive us for being the post-birth abortion capital of the world.
Forgive us for pushing this transgender nonsense.
But do not give up that easy in the sense where it's this.
I truly believe that our amazing fellow Hispanic Americans are going to come in our direction in massive numbers.
I really believe that.
It's not going to happen overnight.
It's not going to happen immediately.
But the Hispanic Americans have been so taken advantage of by the Democrat Party for so long, all the Democrats want from Hispanics is votes.
That's all they want.
They just want votes.
When our agenda is one where you will have a lower cost of living, we believe in the
strong nuclear family.
It is the only one of the Ten Commandments where it involves your nation and it involves
a promise.
Honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in.
Hispanic Americans care deeply about their family.
The Democrats don't care about building strong families.
They want to rip families apart.
And so New Mexico can wake up, Steve.
And you're making a huge difference.
And I hope you guys, the best thing the enemy can do, the most effective thing the enemy
can do is to get you to give up.
Is to get you to surrender.
But you must say, we'll never surrender, we're gonna fight for our beautiful state, and we're gonna keep on spreading the message every single day.
Yeah.
When, you know, a lot of the folks in here are younger, I don't know how many of them remember Carter, when he was president.
When my parents went to buy a house in Clovis, it was 21% interest.
There was lines block long to get gas.
That's when the dummy changed the speed limit from 70, 75 to 55, because it was going to save gas, which was dumb.
But I remember those days.
And I remember thinking how bad that was.
Can you imagine if Kamala gets elected?
How bad It would be, guys.
And then we'd regret it.
We'd regret not voting.
We'd regret not voting our worldview.
We would regret that we think this is a personality contest, and it's not.
It's about policies.
It's about what's right.
It's about what we believe in.
People say, I worship Trump.
I don't worship Trump.
I worship Jesus.
Trump is not the Savior of our world, God is the Savior of our world.
But yet, God appoints people, but we have to do our part.
And you know, Charlie, I meet people all the time that go to churches that the pastors don't stand, they don't do anything, they would never do this.
And people in New Mexico, and I said this to you earlier, the oppressed always vote in their oppressors.
And it's amazing to me how Christians say, well, I go to this church, the pastor doesn't really stand up, but I go there, because it's all about friendships.
It's about things that to me is, I never picked a church over friendships.
I picked a church on what was being said.
And we need to pick a president on what's being said, not what, you know, come on, come on.
She's a dummy.
I don't know how to say it.
I think it's appalling that she can even run.
And that people would even vote for.
And we, as a people, we have to stand up and be kind of, whether we understand that we have to vote, we have to be in places that are like-minded, would you agree?
Oh, I mean, I completely agree.
And I'll say this, and then we're gonna do some questions, because I really enjoy taking questions from you guys.
Which is, in the scriptures, specifically in the book of Exodus and Numbers, two of my favorite books, there is this wrestling with this idea of whether or not people want to be free.
And whether or not people would rather be comfortable slaves or uncomfortably free.
So God and his chosen people, the most unimpressive group of people ever, the Hebrews, they were slaves.
Pharaoh was basically Hitler, just so we are clear.
One of the most evil people of the Bible was Pharaoh.
He was so evil he said, throw the babies into the Nile River.
Sounds like New Mexico.
And in Exodus 1, remember the midwives defied Pharaoh's order and said, no, I will not throw the babies into the river.
And it said God dealt well with the midwives, which is a very important biblical lesson that God cares about life, all life, specifically life in the womb.
Okay.
So God delivers his chosen people from Egypt and they saw the most amazing miracles, which is side note number one.
Let's just go through this.
You know how often I'm told by Christians, or people that wanna, you know, in the middle, Christians, if I only saw a miracle, I would believe in God.
Okay, you saw a miracle in Butler, Pennsylvania, when God spared Donald Trump's life.
I don't think everyone understands.
If he went like this, within a millisecond, to look at a chart that he never looks at, and it happened to be on his right, because they messed it up that day.
It was supposed to be on his left.
By the way, just so we are clear, there's something very dark behind the U.S.
Secret Service and what they allowed to happen on that day.
I'm just saying, there's something not right.
But God had other plans.
He goes like this.
If he would not have moved his head, the bullet would have went right into the back of his brain, and Donald J. Trump would have been dead on July 13th, and our country probably would have went to a civil war.
I'm sorry, it just would have.
Instead, there was a chart right there on his right, and he goes like this, and the bullet goes right off the top of his ear.
At that very moment.
Now, you could say, oh, that's just a happy coincidence.
For those of us that believe in the Lord, we know that is providence, and that is his hand on this nation.
So, I am not convinced when people say, oh, you know, if I just see a miracle, I'll believe.
That was the most televised, most witnessed miracle in history, and people's heart are still hard.
God's probably chuckling in heaven, huh?
Yeah, you wanted a miracle?
Got you one.
Oh, you still don't believe?
You still don't believe?
So miracles don't move anything.
They don't.
So God's chosen people have seen the most amazing miracles, quail blown off course, manna from heaven, and they're in the desert.
They just came from the worst slavery you can imagine, where Pharaoh was beating them into the ground, they were dying, they were dropping like flies.
And in the book of Numbers, I think it's Numbers 13 or 14, they say, hey, we want to go back to Egypt.
We want to go back to slavery.
And someone says, why?
Because the food was better.
It's a direct quote.
At least we had leeks, melons, cucumbers, and we had meat.
Because, you know, just this manna and this quail is getting a little old here.
And they complain, and they complain throughout the entire book of Numbers.
And I was reading that during COVID, and boy, is that a lesson for today, which is that this is a battle, everybody, against the flesh.
Our flesh does not want to be free.
It is only through Christ Jesus, And the inheritance of a Christian civilization that we even understand the concept of liberty.
You cannot be free in a non-Christian society.
No church, no liberty.
No Jesus, no liberty.
So we're at this place right now in the history of America where most people say, well, why would I want to be free?
I'd rather get free checks from the government, have somebody else take care of my kids.
I'd rather, you know, smoke weed and do drugs all day long.
I don't want to have to go to work.
Why be free?
But those of us as Christians, we understand what freedom actually is.
That liberty is being set free from our flesh nature so that we can glorify God in all things that we do.
Glorify God at work, and in our family, and at church.
The broken world does not understand that.
And what I'm getting at is that this is, at the core, a political issue.
Because then we have, in politics, Kamala Harris, which is speaking to the people, just come back to Egypt.
I'll give you meat.
That's Kamala Harris as Pharaoh.
And Donald Trump's message is a tougher message, which is, I'll give you your country back, but you still have to wake up early and go to work, which we're good with.
I'll give you your country back, where we have earned success.
And that is the spiritual struggle in front of us, where Donald Trump is the one that is saying, hey, do you want to live free in the desert?
Because you can flourish here, but it won't always be easy.
And Kamala Harris says, come on back to Egypt.
Well, you'll remain a slave.
You'll have everything provided.
You know, someone the other day said to me, a Democrat, on a campus, a couple months ago, and they said, you know, I just want to have basically everything taken care of.
I said, I got a great deal for you.
Great deal.
I said, what if I told you free lodging?
He's like, yeah.
Three meals a day?
Yeah.
Wi-Fi?
Really interesting new friends?
And you don't have to pay for any of it.
He's like, yeah, that's what we should have for everyone in society.
I said, great.
Well, I need to go down to the 7-Eleven with a handgun, fire off a couple shots at the ceiling,
and you guys can have all that, you can have that free of charge.
When you are a prisoner, you have all that stuff.
three meals a day, Wi-Fi, lodging, interesting new friends.
It's true, that's a great analogy.
But you're not free.
And then when that moment, it's amazing what people will do to stay out of prison, because when you actually see what prison is, like, wait, no, no, I don't want that.
I don't want that.
That's the question in front of us right now.
This election will be, are we gonna go back to Egypt?
Go back to an unfree civilization?
We, as Christians, say no.
We reject Egypt, and we wanna live in liberty.
Let's do some questions, guys, okay?
By the way, I think I see three Oregon Ducks hats.
That looks coordinated.
Am I right?
I love that.
I'm a big Oregon Ducks football fan.
You guys coordinated that ahead of time.
You guys know your stuff.
That's great.
Hey, let me set the Q&A up.
Guys, too many people get up and they give monologues.
I know everybody wants to be heard, but there's people that want to ask questions.
So if you'll do me a favor and just walk up, ask your question.
He doesn't need a lot of context to it.
Just ask your question and Charlie will be able to answer a lot more questions.
Can I add to that?
If you have a challenging question, Or a question.
I don't want to say disagreement, because it's not a campus, but if you might see something different, then those are the best questions.
Let's try to do that, okay?
Questions that, let's just say are...
As cliche, we can do that a different time.
And then we're also going to put up the podcast link.
And if you guys can follow that QR code with your phone and subscribe, it really helps me out.
We'll keep that up throughout the evening.
It's the best way to stay in touch.
Anyone listen to the Charlie Kirk Show?
Anyone there?
You guys are the best.
It's so great.
All right, there's a young patriot here.
Yes, ma'am.
Are you first?
All right.
What is your name?
Bella.
If you're my age, what would you tell yourself to do in the future?
Well, what is your age?
Ten.
Wow, I love that.
First of all, it's not easy to get in front of a crowd like this, so let's give her a round of applause.
Way to go, Bella!
Follow God in all that you do.
All that you do.
Always put God first.
As you get older, there will be decision points where you will know that something is wrong, And that your flesh will want to do it anyway.
At those moments is where your character kicks in.
And so the more that you prepare for those moments, and the more that you know they're going to come, the stronger that you will be, and the happier, more joyful, more successful you will be when you choose God's path to your life, not the world's path to your life.
For example, All of a sudden, some of your friends, when you're 13, hey, let's go do these drugs.
You know you're not supposed to, but it's tempting.
When you say no to drugs and you say yes to, instead of spending time with your friends, you'll live a deeper and better life.
So on and so forth.
The other thing I'll say is this, is...
Try to be a witness for Jesus to all of your friends in every circumstance you possibly can.
Never underestimate the impact that you can be salt and light in the life that you're in.
God bless you.
Thank you so much.
Way to go, Bella.
So cool, huh?
Hi, Charlie.
Hi, Pastor Steve.
My question is surrounding your worldview, not just your United States view.
And what I'm referring to is Who's really controlling, not just, who are Satan's henchmen?
And I'm not talking about Biden, Obama.
These are all puppets.
We see England falling.
We see Sweden falling.
We see Australia gone.
All in the name of diversity and inclusion.
Who's really controlling it?
And what I mean by that is, you know, the Bilderbergers, the Rothschilds, the Soroses, Klaus Schwab, on and on.
These men are very high up, right under the God of the world.
So who, in your opinion, is really controlling this other than Satan himself?
God of the world is Satan.
That's an expression that Paul used.
That's correct.
Yeah.
Jesus called Satan the prince of this world.
You have a pretty good list.
Soros, definitely.
Let's talk about Soros for one moment.
Soros is a radical ideologue who is the closest thing to evil on Earth that any of us will encounter.
And under the guise of diversity, he has said we must open up all the borders of the West and allow for cultural destruction, essentially.
And under the guise of diversity, we have now seen the fall of the United Kingdom.
Have you guys been seeing what's happening in London recently?
Oh my goodness, it is just, it's coming here next.
The two quickest ways you destroy a country is through mass inflation and mass immigration.
It is the two easiest ways to destroy a country.
There's other names as well.
Do not underestimate the American billionaire oligarchs.
A lot of this is American-based, believe it or not.
This is American ruling class that exports it to the rest of the world.
The World Economic Forum is a very key component to it.
And then there's kind of a shadow operating class of people that tend to never go away, like Victoria Newland and Susan Rice and Valerie Jarrett.
And then there's even another level down, John Podesta, John Kerry.
These people hold a fair amount of power.
Obama is less of a puppet recently than you might think, actually.
Obama graduated from a puppet to a puppeteer, because after eight years he became an actual dedicated believer.
And so we believe, as Christians, What they are trying to do is reconstitute the Tower of Babel of what happened in Genesis 11.
God hates this idea of one world government.
God is a God of sovereignty.
God is a God of nations.
God is a God of borders.
God is not a God of a one world economic world forum project.
Does that help answer your question?
Yeah.
What's your take on the Rothschilds and the Bush crime family?
Yeah, I mean, I'm not a fan of the Bushes at all.
The Rothschilds I don't know as much about, but yes, so this is a very important point, is that the communists, who called themselves neoliberals because they were all actually Marxists at their core, they infiltrated the Republican Party as neoliberals.
And it's a warfare-welfare state, which is that we're going to invade every country and invite the world.
Invade the world, invite the world.
The Bushes are not conservatives.
They've never been conservatives.
The Bushes are not America First.
The Bushes are involved in an international project that is sisters to this kind of one-world government.
Do you notice the Bushes never called for strong borders?
They never called for deportations.
They never called for an end of the foreign wars.
It's because the Bush-Clinton alliance is they agree on basically everything except on what the tax rate should be.
We have much bigger concerns than what the tax rate is.
And the Bushes have been happy partners in this bipartisan, uniparty destruction of Western civilization.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for being here.
I am the only conservative in my entire household.
Wow.
And so I have struggles with that.
But I wondered if you might have any suggestions for me.
And I do want to say that Kamala is Kamala-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la.
And I believe in humor.
I love it.
So, you seem so charming.
You're married to a Democrat, is that right?
Or... Yeah, you are.
Sorry to hear that.
That's like being married to... Who knows how long at this point?
What did she say?
Who knows how long?
Who knows how long it will be?
Oh, that's right.
Oh boy.
You could break up a marriage right here, Charlie.
So, that's actually an interesting side point.
I say this, if anyone is engaged dating, or one day wants to get married, you must marry somebody with your same worldview.
Do not marry somebody that sees the world differently than you do.
The most important is the theological and the Christian, and then secondly, of course, political.
So, you have to just be salt and light.
Here's my greatest piece of advice for you.
Have great humor about it.
Don't become an angry conservative.
This is my advice for all of you in New Mexico.
Humor is how you take down a regime.
Mock them.
Make fun of them.
Humiliate them.
Say, oh, how's Kamala doing?
Did she put two sentences together today?
Just, you know, just constantly pepper them with it, right?
You seem like you have that kind of an attitude, right?
And it's very persuasive and it drives liberals nuts.
God bless you.
She's great.
She's awesome.
Hello, Charlie.
My name is Sonia.
I think the last time I was here, I mentioned about Vivek.
And of course, JD is the VP.
He was in several news outlets, and he's really out there.
What's your take regarding Do we like J.D.
Vance?
Is J.D.
doing a great job?
Isn't J.D.
doing a great job?
J.D.' 's a very close friend.
I fought very, very hard for him to become the VP, and I think my work is paying off.
I think that Trump made a great choice.
Did you see him on the Sunday shows today?
He did a great job today.
He did three sit-down interviews, which is three more than what Kamala Harris has done in the last three weeks.
He handled CNN so beautifully.
He navigated all of it, and the media hates him.
The more that you hear from J.D.
Vance, the more you're going to like.
Look, here's the thing.
We have to become our own media, which is why I'm going to kind of give a shameless plug, as I did previous.
If all of you guys would take out your phone and subscribe to our podcast, you have to stop listening to the networks, okay?
You have to stop listening to ABC, CNN, And you guys just follow that QR code.
It helps me out a lot, by the way, and there's a lot of different reasons why, because we're constantly being canceled by the media.
But we have to become our own media, and I encourage all of you to get your news from podcasting and from social media influencers that you trust, not from cable television, okay?
Unless you watch Real America's Voice.
Anyone big Real America's Voice fans here?
I love you guys, which is a new, very new exciting.
I'm on there every day for two hours.
It's really great.
But the mainstream media is dying.
It can't die quick enough or soon enough, which is one of the reasons why they're death gripping on Kamala Harris.
They know that if Donald Trump wins, it will be an extinction event of the modern American media.
And I'm cheering for that every single day.
God bless you.
Thank you.
Hey Charlie, a real pleasure that you're here.
Thank you so much.
We all saw the shameful Olympics opening ceremony.
One of the takeaways was they would have never done that to the Muslim faith.
Is it still being debated what is strong-arm Christianity?
And if so, what is it and what should it be?
Is it still being debated what?
What is strong-arm Christianity?
Like a way to really push back harder?
Not to the degree, obviously, like Muslims do, but something more substantial than just... Yeah.
No, I mean, I think we have to be honest.
We as Christians are acting like a bunch of wusses right now.
Come on.
I mean, let's just be honest, right?
And, no, I mean, I don't endorse doing anything what the Mohammedans doing.
By the way, they're Mohammedans.
That's a very important term.
Because the most important person... We call ourselves Christians because of Christ.
They're Mohammedans because Mohammed is their prophet, whatever.
By the way, the more you learn about Mohammedism, the more you realize what we're really up against here.
And I'm telling you, you have the whole destruction of London and Paris.
It is disgusting.
So let's first dissect what really happened there in the opening ceremonies of the Olympics, which for me was really tragic because I'm a big Olympic fan.
Growing up, I used to love watching Olympics.
Who was with me?
Like, I just think, one of my best memories.
And it was so sad watching this, right?
It was so disgusting.
Where they had these half-naked people in a ceremony that was pagan.
This is the important thing.
Is that atheism has won in France.
They are the least religious country in Europe.
One of the, like, lowest church attendance.
So why do they have to mention Christianity?
Because that's the point.
Is that it's not enough that they've won.
They need to remind you and rub it in your face.
That you do not replace Christianity with atheism.
You replace Christianity with paganism.
Paganism is what existed before the God of the Bible.
The God of the Bible, as the scriptures were written, was written in a time of polytheism, child sacrifice, of widespread sexual debauchery.
Sound familiar?
And we are now entering and reintroducing the old gods of paganism.
And if I were to be so bold, you guys are ahead of the curve here in New Mexico when it comes to paganism.
Earth worship, incantations, crystals, all sorts of different types of meditative type stuff, which I have a lot of respect for Native Americans.
I don't have a lot of respect for Native American woo-woo stuff.
I'm sorry.
Like worshiping the earth is bad, it's pagan, and the God of the Bible says only I am worthy of worship, not the river, not the sea, not the rocks.
And this is important because prior to the God of the Bible, people would worship the Euphrates, they'd worship the Tigris.
Look at Egypt, they would have a God of the sun, Ra, a God of the Nile.
So what is our response as Christians?
Well first, we should not put up with this anymore.
What does that look like?
Well, first and foremost, I think it's time for Christians to state clearly that if you're going to insult and deface our Lord and Savior, we will not purchase with your products, we will not watch your television channels, we will not associate with it anymore.
There must be a price for coming after Christians.
And right now there is no price because we are a bunch of wusses.
We kind of roll over and we don't allow it.
We say, oh, you know, there's no big deal to say these terrible things about Jesus Christ.
And look at the result of that.
Finally, I'll say this, we have to build new things.
We have to build our own stuff as Christians.
We have to be entrepreneurs, build new schools.
We have to homeschool our kids.
But no, what we saw in the opening ceremony of the Olympics was a mockery and was trying to remind you that the West is now pagan.
We are in a post-Christian era.
Thank you.
Yes, sir.
Hi, Charlie.
Hi, Pastor Steve.
Hey, man.
So, I've been looking into this, everything that's been going on for a good Since probably I'd say since maybe three months after COVID hit, things weren't lining up.
And, um, I got kind of obsessed, but I'm at a point now where I'm trying to figure out how to stand up.
And it's been kind of dawning on me that we need to have a united front for our state legislature.
I know, I know pastor Steve understands that he's been fighting against the governor for a long time, but Yeah, so how do we put that together, you know, with the churches, you know?
Fighting against the laws that they're putting into place.
So you have to be a daily nuisance against the Democrat authority here in New Mexico.
Every time that there's an un-Christian bill in Santa Fe, you guys should be there in the hearing room, you guys should be having events.
I know it's exhausting, but find five or six friends, make that road trip.
You have to be a daily mosquito in their ear and not allow them to get away with it.
Tyranny lives and tyranny thrives when there is no check and balance on that.
And so, part of the state legislature problem is they think that there is no There is no exposure of their work.
I mean, Steve was telling me about some of the wacky stuff that they've been passing here.
I mean, this is pure demonic activity happening here.
And so, that's the best piece of advice I have for you, is you have to be relentless in your exposure and your advocacy of that.
That would be my advice.
Thank you.
Hi, Charlie.
How's it going?
My name is Phil.
I mean, we have a big problem.
There is a big problem.
And that problem is that our leaders seem untouchable.
Uh, for example, our governor, Pastor Steve, uh, we know that she is a communist.
So, um, no matter how much we talk to her, we know this, no matter how much we talk to her, she is not going to listen.
So what happens is Christians and conservatives end up not trying because we figure no matter how much we talk to her, she's not going to listen.
So how do we get them to?
How do we unify us to get up and stand against them and put aside our fears?
Yeah, again, it's a tough question.
So let's just say, how did Democrats flip Colorado?
How did Democrats flip these once-red states?
Is they didn't give up.
Is that they were relentless.
And they lost, and they organized again.
And they lost, and they organized again.
You have to start small, then you have to start big.
Guys, if this church picked three state rep races, You guys could win those three state rep races.
If all of you just said, hey, these are the three state reps we're getting behind, and we're going to break the supermajority, because I think there's a supermajority if I'm not mistaken, right?
OK, you do that.
Next session, we're going to win two more.
And you break that.
You want to get the governor's attention?
Have her lose her majority in the House here in this state, and in the Senate.
That would be step one or step two.
And I know that's so difficult.
People don't understand it.
But here's the truth of it.
Democrats And pagans care more about politics than Christians do.
And that is a sad result because our side says, oh forget it, I don't need politics because politics is just all corrupt.
You are obligated by God.
Jeremiah 29 7.
Demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
God is commanding you to not give up and to not surrender.
And guess what?
If you're unsuccessful, you were still obedient and you did the right thing to God.
That is the most important thing, is your obedience.
Hey Mr. Kirk, it's a pleasure to meet you.
I just had a quick question in regards to how you say that Trump says for us to fight, but when you think about how you say like the CIA kind of should be investigated for what it maybe allowed or didn't allow to happen that day.
What, when it seems like everything is kind of controlled by the left, what does that actually mean in your opinion for the fight for the people against, you know, is it political?
Do you think it's something else?
Like, I'm just kind of curious.
It's all of it.
I think the fight first is we have to understand we have a mission, which is that if we are not successful on November the 5th, then we're going to enter a very dark and ugly chapter of American history.
And we're so close.
I don't know if we're past the Rubicon.
I do believe this.
And again, forgive me for, um, Reading into a miracle.
But if God was done with America, he would have allowed Donald Trump to get shot on July 13th.
That's my belief.
And if there is a miracle that could save his life, there's a miracle that can then Restructure our entire government.
If we win on November the 5th, we are going to declassify the files of JFK and of what happened back in the 1960s and 70s.
We are going to have a real citizen-led movement to recapture this government from this group of criminals and these gangsters that currently control it.
But they want you to give up and to give in because the one part of their equation That they can't stand is that we'll have thousands of people in Albuquerque, New Mexico gather and care and ask beautiful questions with intent and enthusiasm and energy.
And so I'll say this.
What does fight, fight, fight look like?
Get married and have kids.
That's what fight, fight, fight looks like.
Go to church every week.
Obey the Ten Commandments.
Stop watching pornography.
Stop doing drugs and excessively drinking.
Care for your parents, even if they might be a little bit annoying, because you must honor your mother and father, so they may live long in the land of which you are in.
That's what fight, fight, fight looks like.
It means fight the culture.
Fight the system.
It means that you're going to keep on showing up at Santa Fe, even though you're outnumbered, to fight for the unborn, and to fight for your children, and even though you might not win, you do the right thing.
Because our God is a God of miracles.
And again, we saw a miracle happen.
And our response should be, wow, I'm going to keep on acting and fighting obediently.
Thank you.
Hello, Charlie Kirk.
My name is Julian and this is my twin brother, Anthony.
Hey guys.
We just had some questions about like when me and Anthony were in school or whatever and our teachers are like manipulating us to be like, like they don't let us talk about Christ, they don't They shut down anything that we talk about, like, biblically.
And they allow us to, like, the kids to be gay.
They allow the LGBTQ type stuff.
And me and Anthony, we're moving to another state, and we just want to know how we could... What state?
We're going to Arizona.
Well, you're going to be... Welcome, by the way.
We're going to love having you there.
Can you move before November?
Can you make sure your parents move before November?
Yeah, we're leaving at the end of this month.
Okay, great.
Make sure they register to vote.
So, we'll help you out.
Yeah.
That's why.
Praise God.
Are your parents here, by the way?
Yeah, I'm over there.
You guys raised two great sons here, by the way.
You do a great job.
Where are they?
Right over there.
Where's his parents?
Right over there.
Have the parents stand up for a minute.
I want to see, I want to see you.
Thank you for your service.
Thank you.
Thank you for... Can I ask you guys, I'm asking more mom, are you guys moving because of all this nonsense, partially?
No, because we're military and they're having us move.
Well, first of all, we're happy to have you in Arizona.
Sorry, it's the loss here.
But I will say, Steve was saying backstage, you're losing so many great people in this state, aren't you, Steve?
Yep.
It's just a tragedy.
So, when you're encountering a teacher, and this will repeat itself regardless of where you are, New Mexico or Arizona, you must first ask the question, what matters more, glorifying God or getting good grades?
That's the first and most important question.
If getting good grades is more important than glorifying God, then ignore everything I'm about to tell you.
But if glorifying God is more important, then they have no right, constitutionally, legal, or moral, to shut you guys up from sharing the gospel or sharing your political views.
Period.
But, they do have a right to grade you unfairly.
Sorry, you want to chime in?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because some of our teachers, they've threatened to write us up.
They've told us to just stop talking because she's a teacher and she's right.
Are you interrupting or are you going through the right procedure, I'm sure?
We're going through the right procedure.
Then you should stand firm and be strong and courageous and say, write me up or you will face a lawsuit because I am allowed to speak my mind as a citizen of this country.
And I know that's hard, but the younger that you are able to stand up to a liberal bully, the better you will be at it.
And I'll just say this, write me up, be like, write me up for what?
For expressing my First Amendment rights?
If you aren't interrupting, and if you aren't interjecting, and if you aren't being, you know, a rascal in class, which you guys obviously aren't, you're doing the right thing, they can't thought police you.
And by the way, this is how I know we are going to win.
Have you ever heard of an instance of a Christian or conservative teacher threatening to downgrade a student in class?
No, we'll welcome that disagreement.
Tell me about that.
Tell me about how great socialism has worked every place it's been tried.
Tell me about how men can give birth.
Tell me how great of a Vice President Kamala Harris is.
I want your opinion to be heard by as many people as possible.
I love it when liberals disagree with me publicly, because then people can see the contrast of ideas.
This is how I know we are going to win.
We have the truth on our side, and they have bullying on their side.
I know it!
So, to your point, I don't have an easy answer.
But you two young men will develop in strong character, you'll deepen in integrity, The more you stand for truth, even when it is difficult.
And let me close with this.
You guys are moving out of state soon?
Are you currently in class?
No.
Oh, okay.
I was gonna say you should.
I just go crazy the last couple weeks.
Um, right?
Moving out of state, you guys should just come... At the end of the school year, I did.
Oh, you just went?
Oh, I love that.
I have a bunch of Trump shirts, and I have, uh... And I got this shirt that says, Make Men Men Again.
So... I love that.
What does this shirt say?
So, I will say that, how old are you guys?
14, we just turned 14.
You guys gotta start a turning point chapter when you go to Arizona, by the way.
I think we have our turning point team here somewhere.
Last thing I'll say is this, you won't always be liked by your peers, you definitely won't be liked by your parents, but doing the, I'm not talking about your parents, I mean the teachers, you'll be liked by your parents.
Your parents are great, but you'll always be liked by your teachers.
Well, if you get bad grades, I don't know, that's a separate issue.
But you will always be able to say, I did the right thing.
And doing the right thing and acting obediently is a lot more important than just getting a good grade and going to some stupid school and getting some silly degree.
Because I believe our country is in the place that it's in because we don't have enough young men standing up for what is right when it is difficult.
God bless you guys.
Thank you so much.
Keep fighting for liberty.
And register to vote in Arizona, Mom and Dad.
That was awesome.
Hi Charlie Kirk, my name is Michaela and I'm 12 years old and my question is how can I respond to people that identify each other as boys or girls?
How can I respond to that in a nicer way?
Because I don't want to be rude because I'm Christian for that and I don't like it.
You're so sweet, I want to be as sweet as you.
Because I'm not that sweet.
How old are you?
I'm 12.
You're 12, okay.
First of all, 12-year-olds should not have to deal with these topics and these issues.
Can we all agree with that?
This is ridiculous.
This right here is the Democrats' future for the country, where 12- and 13-year-olds are saying, oh, you know, how do I respond to the trans stuff?
Honestly, just love on them like Christ would.
I would just say how I would not give them the pronouns that are not their pronouns.
And I know that might be tough when you're 12 or 13.
Be honest though, parents and teachers, this is a failure of the adults in the room that are allowing this to go so wildly out of control.
Let me speak more broadly though, and you can choose to say this if you want, okay?
But it's tough when you're 12 and all that.
You do not, just because you think you are something, does not make you that thing.
Your chromosomes are what you are.
XX or XY, as we saw with the boxing match in Paris.
Was that not the most disgusting thing you've ever seen, by the way?
Yes, yes it was.
XY chromosomes, he's just beating up that poor Italian girl.
So, they have tricked us to believe that if somebody thinks they are something, they become that thing.
That is the definition of the rejection of reality.
So, if that were to be true, they say, well, I want to pick my own pronouns.
Well, can you pick your own adjectives?
Do you get to choose if you're tall or short?
Skinny?
Can I be rich?
Can I be wealthy?
No, you're objectively something or you are not.
And finally, I'll say this, which is that the poison that 12-year-olds think that they are something that they are not is a growing cancer and tumor.
And for every parent out there, You have to guard fast against this wicked transgender ideology that is infecting our kids.
It is a serious existential threat.
So, here's what I would do if I were you.
I would be a little careful and I'd say, you know, look.
You say you're a boy, even though you're a girl.
I remember, you know, you are a boy.
I'm gonna call you by original name.
I'm gonna call you by original pronouns because I care for you too much to lie to you.
I care for you too much to deceive you because Jesus was love and truth.
We are doing the trans people a disservice when we appease their mental problems.
If somebody has anorexia and they go to a doctor's office, And they say, I want liposuction.
So they think they're fat, and they're not, and they're super skinny, and they wanna get their stomach pumped.
Should we give them that medical intervention?
Of course not.
We should only, we should treat what it is a brain problem, not a body problem.
And you treat the brain problem by not affirming it, but instead by correcting the issue.
Thank you so much, God bless you.
We'll take a couple more.
Sweet little girl, right?
I mean, these kids are great.
Hi, Charlie, and hi, Pastor Steve.
My name is Reese.
I'm 20 years old, and I go to the university here in New Mexico.
I was wondering, Charlie, if you lived here in New Mexico, what would your number one issue be, and how would you try to solve it?
And then the next question is both for Pastor Steve and Charlie.
Would Candace Owens or Carl Tuckerson ever be interested in coming and speaking here?
We can work on that, Steve.
Yeah, we can.
You know them.
I do know them both.
Can you get Tucker to come here?
We can work on that.
You guys like Tucker?
I would let him come.
I'd just be like, go for it.
We can work on that.
So, number one issue.
My number one issue would be crime.
You live in the most dangerous city in America, and by the way, if you guys don't own guns, I hope you do, because it is the last resort to be able to protect yourself.
It is such a flagrant and intentional betrayal of the citizens of this great state, how dangerous they have allowed this state and allowed this city to become.
So that's my number one issue.
Number two would be immigration.
I mean, you guys don't have a border on your southern border.
It is completely controlled by the cartels.
It is wide and completely wide open.
How you go about solving it has to start with local organizing, has to start with what you're doing here at this church, finding communities, building it, and then potentially even running for office.
And then, yeah, the second part of the question I think we answered.
But you should get involved with our Turning Point USA chapter at University of New Mexico.
They're right over here.
So, God bless you.
We'll take a couple more.
Hi Charlie, my name's Bill.
I listen to you every day at work.
I probably should work more, but they kind of wonder why I'm laughing out loud in my cubicle, because of just the way you deal with people.
I also appreciate the way you come at people with kindness, because that's a great way to get people to change their perspectives.
So I just wanted to bring up the fact that we have a lot of younger people here today, and I think a lot of them don't quite realize How much money we have to make a year just to survive right now?
I'm pretty sure the state, the medium income is probably around $50,000 or $60,000.
I'm not sure.
I don't think that we can even survive on that these days.
You probably need to make closer to $80,000, $90,000.
How do you think it's going to be in four years if Kamala wins?
No, I mean, it will be...
You'll need $100,000 a year to pay for groceries.
The spending spree is not over.
The deficit spending spree.
And not to mention, she'll bring in another 15 million people into the country.
That will increase prices dramatically.
And if you are younger in this audience, or if someone plans to vote for Kamala, you'll not be able to own a home.
That will be completely out of grasp.
Your streets will be increasingly dangerous.
Why?
Because we're seeing already, this is the coming attraction of a Kamala Harris presidency.
You are living through it.
If Donald Trump is president, prices will go down.
Wages will go up.
We will see a booming economy, the likes of which you've ever seen.
Why?
Because he did it the first time, and he'll do it again.
That's why.
And secondly, as far as the economic part of it, she wants you to rent, not own property.
She wants you to own nothing and to be happy.
I don't know what it is in Albuquerque, but the average salary required per year to buy a home in this country is $125,000 a year.
When Trump was president, it was $70,000 a year.
Now, I'm sure it might be a little bit less here, I'm just speculating, but you guys have been destroyed by inflation, haven't you?
Inflation has just wrecked you guys.
Inflation is not a mistake.
Inflation is an intentional set of decisions done by the current presidency so that they can break the dollar and get you addicted to government programs.
They want more people on government and less people to be able to support themselves, and so we need Donald Trump so people can afford things again.
Thank you.
Yes, next question.
Hello, my name is Jayveon and I also go to UNM, and I wonder what you thought the most effective way to evangelize at my college campus is, and what are, like, tangible ways to go about it?
Most effective way to evangelize?
Is that right?
Well, first, start with your own friend circle.
So, start with one friend that you know, two friends that you know.
You don't have to do something out in the open.
And then, always understand that if you are a Christian, people will be monitoring your behavior.
And so, if you're a Christian, that then also is not living like a Christian, you give Christianity a bad name.
And so, at the same time, your generosity, your joy, your love of the beautiful things will rub off on people and they'll say, that guy has something different that I want.
The best evangelism that young Christians can give on campuses is how you act, not by what you say.
If you act in a certain way that is different than the culture and they see a difference in you, they're gonna be like, hey, that Christian kid is never hungover, He has great relations with everybody.
You know, there's something different about that kid.
That's the best way that you can evangelize on campus.
All right, two more questions.
Yes, ma'am.
Two more.
Hello, my name is Ariana, and I'm 16 years old, and I was wondering how I, a daughter, a granddaughter, and a great-granddaughter, and a student, can address or confront an elder or someone or of authority of their corruption Wow, that's tough.
So, do you have a thought on that, Steve?
Say the question again, because I'm like listening to you.
How do I, as a child, someone that is seen as unknowledgeable and dumb, you know, like I don't know what I'm talking about, how do I confront or address people of authority or elders on their corruption or when they're wrong?
Well, I think we go back to Jesus.
Jesus was 12 and confounded those in the temple, the wise.
They couldn't believe what he's saying.
I think it's the way you handle yourself, how you articulate your message.
And they can call you what they want because that's what they want to do.
They want to demean you.
They want to take you to a place where they call you stupid.
You don't know what you're talking about.
You're too young.
But listen, we think kids or young people need to be 20 before they know what they need to do.
I believe you can know by 12.
Jesus did.
And I think the way you handle yourself, the way you articulate your message, the way you say, how you say it, when they say you're dumb, just go back to the subject.
Because what they're trying to do is get you off the subject.
And for an adult to call a young person dumb like that is unconscionable anyway.
What they don't know how to do is defend their argument to yours.
So you just keep your composure, you keep saying what you say, you keep believing what you're believing.
When they get off track and want to call your name, you just act like you never said it, and you stick with your point over and over and over and over and over again.
Alright, last question.
Thank you.
I think you have a little girl.
Can we ask one more?
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
The little girl.
Bring, bring.
We'll do two more.
Yeah.
Do you mind?
That's fine.
I just think she's so little.
I just think it'd be cool.
Go ahead, sir.
Your second to last, sir.
So, my question is, regardless if Trump wins in November, what do you think is the likelihood of the future balkanization of America, and what are your thoughts on secession?
Yeah, increasingly likely.
I'm against secession because I believe in the United States of America, but if it gets to a place where it's the only way that God-fearing, liberty-loving people can self-govern, then we should not dismiss it in the future.
And that would be a tragedy, let me be very clear.
If states have to eventually secede from the union, that would be a national divorce, would
be one of the saddest, darkest things we'd have to live through.
Let me be very clear.
But we should not dismiss it just 20 or 30 years in the future.
If Donald Trump were to win, though, I think his mandate will be to heal this country and
to bring this country together.
I firmly believe that outside of all the media propaganda, 90% of Americans agree with what
I really believe that 90% of Americans do not want their kids be taught transgender propaganda, that they believe in that there is a God, that they believe in borders.
I mean, what have we said tonight that is that radical?
They're the radical ones.
They're the ones that are declaring basically a second civil war on us.
They're the ones that are saying, no borders.
We're going to destroy your currency, crime everywhere.
We're going to take away your guns.
The constitution is terrible.
And so, If Trump wins, I think it will slow down the balkanization of this country.
Here's the tricky and really awful part.
Look around.
You have thousands of people in this room, as I've mentioned.
Where'd all you guys go?
That's why, yeah, I'm sure you thought of that.
Yeah, really quick.
Urban versus rural.
Yeah, it's urban versus rural, but it's, it's really, I don't even want to get there.
I hope that we can win and that we can heal this country.
Hi, my name is Abby and I'm 10 years old.
My question is, if you were the vice president, how would you take care of our borders and abortion?
Okay, great.
If I was the vice president?
Oh boy.
First of all, I would visit the border quite often.
Right?
These young people are amazing.
That's amazing.
Well, as VP you have, first of all, let's just say as a ticket, you would say, remain in Mexico, you'd give Border Patrol what they need, you would no longer allow people to declare amnesty just because they, or declare asylum just because they throw up their hands, and most importantly, as a component, you would say that if a parent, or if an adult, enters the border with a minor, DNA checks are a must.
And this is not happening on the border right now.
Why is that important?
Well, because you have people that are selling the 12-year-old for sex, and they say that they're related, and the girl is afraid because she just got raped three times.
You guys understand what's happening on the border is the biggest sex trade of slavery in the history of the species.
And we're just allowing it to happen under the guise of diversity.
And that is the Democrat Party that's allowing it to happen.
And then as far as abortion, if I was president or vice president, Look, I would push forward for not just a nationwide abortion revival, as far as a pro-life on that, but you have to start from the bottom up.
You have to start to convince people.
You have to use the bully pulpit to educate them on that.
Strong justices.
How about this?
Defund Planned Parenthood.
We should no longer be funding Planned Parenthood with taxpayer dollars, right?
Absolutely.
And eventually we want to see the elimination of all abortion in this country, because abortion is the termination of innocent life.
And 1.6 million abortions every single year in this country is a stain on our beautiful republic.
So, thank you so much.
Can I say something in closing?
So, I just want to say, this is such an important state, everybody, and I know the questions you could tell.
Charlie, we're outnumbered.
Charlie, we feel as if nothing matters.
God did not put you in this state, at this place, to give up and throw up your hands.
You need to stay engaged.
You need to stay involved.
You need to understand that every single one of you can be beacons of light.
And yes, it is very dark in New Mexico.
But it's dark because so many decent people did not fight 20 years ago.
Because decent people did not fight 10 years ago.
If the Democrats were able to flip Colorado, if they were able to flip these once amazing states, why can't Christians and liberty lovers flip New Mexico back to be a conservative state again?
Why can't that happen?
And so, But the most important thing is the most important thing.
All of this is just a bunch of talk if you do not make Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior, and if that is not a personal relationship in your life.
Jesus Christ saved my life.
He's on a rescue mission to save all of you from your broken, sinful nature.
That's the most important thing.
And if you can win New Mexico for Christ, you can then win them for God's perfect and pleasing will for this great state.
God bless you guys.
Thank you so much.
Thanks so much for listening everybody.
Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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