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What Happened to the Democrats?
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Joining us now is former Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich.
Mr. Bogojevic, welcome back to the program.
I'm great.
Yeah, I was at the DNC.
I wasn't exactly warmly received, but you know, being from Chicago, I couldn't resist myself.
Watching this convention, I'm guessing from a little bit of a distance, what has been your reaction, your take?
Is it a typical Democrat convention, or has this surprised you in some way?
Well, no, the convention is different in many ways.
It's made up of different people.
It's a different crowd.
The Democrat Party looked different when I was at the four Democratic conventions,
starting in 1996, then 2000, 2004, and then 2008, the one in Denver when Obama was nominated.
There were elements of this sort of what I call the lunatic fringe of the Democrat Party
at those conventions back then.
But what's dramatically different is that that lunatic fringe now is the majority of that party.
They've taken over that party.
And, you know, I think it's fair to say that when You know, we call it a democratic convention.
It's really a socialist convention masquerading as a democratic convention.
It's a very different party and very different people in it with different priorities who are very angry and really don't seem to like our country like they should.
I totally agree, and when I was walking the halls there, I don't feel a patriotic spirit.
It feels very ideological and much more focused on, I would say, a nihilistic political agenda than patriotism or love of country.
And interestingly, I didn't see any families at the DNC, and that was a big contrast versus what I saw at the RNC.
Last night, the Obamas gave a couple speeches.
You've dealt with the Obamas.
What should the American people know about the Obamas that, let's just say, is not being reported on the networks?
Well, I think some of it might be reported by some networks, but the major networks, of course, are not.
And they're in the tank with Obama, and they were instrumental in getting him the nomination in 2008.
It was such an obvious thing how the media had backed him and the idea of who they thought he was or were willing to accept who he was.
But Obama's inauthentic.
He's not for real.
He's all superficial.
He's impressive in that respect, but he's a man with no convictions and he's probably, I would say, the most duplicitous politician in the business of duplicitous politicians.
And that was on display last night when he went out of his way to praise Joe Biden, when he's the reason why Joe Biden got dumped from the Democratic ticket.
He's the reason why 14 million Democratic primary voters were treated as suckers by Obama and the Democratic bosses who chose Someone not chosen by the voters.
So he's not for real, but it served him well.
He's come a long way being a fake guy that he is.
So, help me understand why rank-and-file Democrats are putting up with the idea that they were completely disenfranchised in the primary.
And it wasn't as if the primary voters voted for both Biden and Harris.
It was only Joe Biden.
Kamala Harris was not even on the primary ticket.
So, Governor, help me understand why rank-and-file Democrats were just willing, as being the party of democracy, to forego democracy.
What is this all about?
Well, I think rank-and-filed activist Democrats are willing to forego democracy because, you know, democracy to them is really just a means to their socialist ends and their kind of lunatic, crazy idea ends.
And they're more interested in using Marxist tactics, like, for example, weaponized prosecutors bringing fake criminal charges against the leading I guess the presidential candidate from the opposition party, they're all for that.
They don't care about the rule of the law or the constitution.
It's just about winning an election so that they can get their crazy left-wing policies put in place.
And it's not about working people anymore, which is the reason why I was a Democrat, and while I think still most Democrats are.
Now I think most Working people who are still Democrats today and there are millions of them across the country, though increasingly a lot of them have left to join this new Republican Party that Trump is building, which is a blue collar working class party.
But I still think those Democrats really aren't aware of what their leaders are doing to them.
And they're really not aware of how they're being lied to by their leaders.
Um, and you know, it's really about priorities, Charlie.
When you think about whose side you're on, you're supposed to pick a side when you're in politics, and that's why you choose a party.
I became a Democrat because I always thought the Democrat party was for the little guy, the guy that worked in the factory, the woman who, you know, serves the sandwiches at the restaurants.
And all kinds of working people.
But this Democrat Party no longer makes them a priority.
And after three years of Biden-Harris, what do you have?
You've got inflation.
You've got the cost of a dozen eggs 126% higher than it was when Trump was president.
A carton of orange juice is 71% higher than it was when Trump was president.
Gas is higher.
A gallon of milk is 50% higher.
A loaf of bread is 54% higher.
And what's their answer to that?
Their answer to that is Just rhetoric and offering free vasectomies.
That's their answer to that.
And their answer is also a Soviet-style economic answer.
This is what Kamala Harris is saying.
She wants wage controls.
I mean price controls.
And price controls have never worked.
What they've always led to is scarcity and starvation.
And you couple that with how they weaponized the prosecutors that go after Trump and what they did to me.
This is the sort of politics, frankly, where the Democrat Party ought to be kicked out of America and ought to be sent to Russia.
And if Russia's too far, send them to Cuba or Venezuela, because that's where they belong.
Kicking the Democrat Party out of America and sending it to Venezuela from a former Democrat, that's a very powerful statement.
I completely agree, by the way.
I would say a couple of things.
from the inside the Democrat what they think their chances are. Looking at this from afar
and seeing some of the speeches, does this seem to be a confident party that believes they're going to
win by a landslide? What are you gleaning about what they think their political chances are going
into November? No, that's a great question. You know, I would say a couple of things. First,
I'd never been to a Republican convention until I was at the Republican convention in Milwaukee.
Yeah, and thanks for having me.
You guys were so nice to me.
And you know what?
I'm a Trumpocrat.
I still consider myself a Democrat for Trump, but a Democrat from the old days, not these Democrats.
But I've been to four Democratic conventions.
The last one was 2008.
And you can sense it in Denver that the party was greatly enthusiastic.
The candidate Obama was offering hope and change, which turned out to be a bunch of baloney.
There was no change.
He became an establishment guy.
I suppose he offered hope.
But it was all the same old baloney, but he was on fire, and so were the Democrats, and you could sense it at that convention.
That candidate and this party was going to win in November.
I felt the same thing at the convention in Milwaukee, the same sort of energy, the same sort of enthusiasm from the Republican delegates and the Republican attendees there for President Trump.
And my sense of this Democratic convention with the rhetoric that you're hearing, with the anarchists outside of the convention protesting, not dissimilar from what it was like in Chicago in 1968 with anti-war protesters.
And the mood generally, and the anger that they're spitting forth, and the dishonesty of their rhetoric.
I mean, the lies.
It's a party that seems very desperate, believes that they're in trouble, and that their only solution to winning is to trump up fake charges against Donald Trump because Donald Trump has caught the attention of the forgotten Americans who've been ignored too long by the political establishment of both parties.
You see, the movement that Trump is starting is really bipartisan, and people are catching on.
It happened overnight.
Yes.
I'm not the only Democrat out there who supported Trump.
There are millions of Democrats who are supporting Trump and he's got the
opportunity to get a lot more Democrats supporting him, including black voters
who've been put aside by the Democrats, who put migrants over poor black people
in the interest of poor black people, who push defund the police where here
in Chicago, for example, if you're black, you're 20 times more likely to be a
victim of a homicide than you are if you're white.
And this kind of disrespect for the black community from the party that claims that it's for the black community, I think more and more black people are catching on.
And Trump is reaching out to them in ways that the old Republican Party under Bush and Romney and Cheney, they never were interested in doing it.
They were a corporate country club party.
They didn't care about working people or black people.
Trump is very different.
And this is why the Democrat establishment hates him so much, because they see he's taking away their voters and changing the political dialogue and the political alignment in America, and it threatens them and threatens their existence.
So that's a long answer to your question about what the mood of the convention is.
It was a great answer.
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So, Rod, I want you to respond to this here.
This is Mallory McMorrow, who is a Michigan lawmaker, talking about the weaponization of justice from the DNC.
Donald Trump would be able to weaponize the Department of Justice to go after his political opponents.
He could even turn the FBI into his own personal police force.
That is not how it works in America!
That's how it works in dictatorships!
I mean, the lack of self-awareness, this is really, this is creepy stuff.
Yeah, she, I mean, that's, talk about projection.
But see, this is what they do, and this is not by accident.
They're knowingly doing this.
This is the liar saying that you're lying.
And they are projecting onto their opponents, and they do this all the time to President Trump.
Their stuff, they accuse him of stuff that they do all the time.
I gotta tell you, Charlie, I've been around a lot of politicians, several presidents.
I mean, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.
Of course, Obama, who I've known since 1995.
I was on a trip to Europe with Biden when he was a senator and we went to the Balkans during the war in 1999.
So I knew him a little bit.
And I know President Trump a little bit.
But of all of them, he is the most real and the most authentic and the least political.
And again, one of the reasons why they come after him like they do is because they're frankly, they don't know how to deal with somebody who's as real as he is, because they're so full of it.
And they believe that their duplicity and their hypocrisy and just lying with a straight face when they know they're doing it.
They don't think it's immoral or unethical.
You know what they think it is, Charlie?
They think this is just These are just the tools of the trade.
This is just how we play the game.
Michael Jordan, you know, can dribble well.
He can take the ball to the hoop.
He's got a great jump shot.
He can jump high.
Those are his skill set.
With these politicians lying and being hypocrites and being duplicitous and being phonies.
They revel in that.
They think this is what makes them good at their business.
And this is what this woman is.
Although she looks a little bit on the crazy side, she actually might believe
some of that crazy stuff she's doing.
She's saying, because she's listening to the other ones who have more
power, who are convincing her.
But it's frightening to see that.
But I do think most Americans have common sense and most Americans can see through it.
What was it that Lincoln said?
Charlie, we're both from Illinois.
Lincoln said you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
That's right.
And I'm putting my hope in Lincoln's words.
I love that.
In closing here, Governor, you said that there are millions of Democrats that are wanting to vote for Trump.
I totally agree.
We're starting to see the consolidation.
Voices like yours, RFK Jr.
potentially that could get behind Trump, Tulsi Gabbard.
If you were to advise President Trump for the growing Trumpocrat movement, What policies, what messaging can we maybe peel off a couple million more Trumpocrats into the MAGA movement, which could be decisive?
Minute and a half remaining.
What advice would you have, Governor?
Reach out to the black community, go into Detroit, go into Philadelphia, go into Pittsburgh, go into Milwaukee, go into Atlanta, go into Phoenix, and go into Las Vegas, and talk about how the Democrat Party, led by Joe Biden, as a senator who wrote the bill, and Bill Clinton who signed it, 1994 crime bill that over-sentenced first-time non-violent drug offenders who disproportionately are Black to these long, long sentences that gave them no chance at a second chance.
And it led to what a very liberal Black author named Michelle Alexander has called the new Jim Crow in America.
And then contrast that with his record, the First Step Act, Which was a sensible step towards bringing some sense of justice and mercy to a system that addressed those ills that Biden and Clinton and the Democrats did to the black community.
I would do that.
I would talk about economic issues and I would talk about how Kamala Harris Supports defunding the police because most black voters don't want to defund the police.
They recognize they need more police because violent crime in the black communities is dramatically higher than it is where white people live.
I completely agree.
The Trumpocrat movement and the Democrat Party right now is shrinking, not growing.
They might be getting louder, but they're not getting bigger.
Governor, thank you so much.
Thanks, Charlie.
Appreciate it.
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Michael Siefert from Public Squares with us.
Michael, great to see you.
Michael, your reaction to the DNC and then also what you are doing, offering to support pregnant women near the DNC.
Tell us all about it.
Well, the DNC, I think, has been a resounding helpful aid to the Trump campaign.
It has put on display the depravity in the Democratic Party.
It has put on display the perversion they hope to utilize to influence the United States population.
The Democrats truly are not the Democrats of 30, 40 years ago.
And that is evidently clear after watching even a few clips over the course of the past few days.
It's also very clear that it's still Obama's party at the end of the day.
And so he tried to present last night as the unity candidate full of hope and vision for the future.
But the problem is the Democrats have a four-year track record now over the last four years of absolute chaos.
President Donald J. Trump will bring law and order, peace, safety, security, and the Democrats have no plan to rebut that.
That's number one.
Number two, there was no greater sign of the Democrats' depravity and desire to pervert the next generation than them allowing for a Planned Parenthood bus to roll up on the scene and offer abortions and vasectomies To interested participants outside of the arena in Chicago.
This was absolutely disgusting and it showcases how much the Democrats truly these days are anti-life in their messaging and in their actions.
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We decided to show up at the DNC as well.
And we actually partnered with Sidewalk Advocates for Life to offer women who would choose life.
And while the Democrats are singing messages of destruction, we are trying to celebrate a message of life and hope and family and faith.
And that's exactly what we decided to do at the DNC and thankfully we've had quite a reception there in Chicago.
This is really important.
How can people support the company itself, Michael?
I want to repeat that because it's very important.
Say that first, please.
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These companies, in many cases, actually donate to Planned Parenthood, which is absurd, not just morally, but also economically.
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So help me understand this, that the Planned Parenthood has a mobile truck where they have now terminated 25 babies.
So 25 babies have been terminated at the DNC and they are bragging about it.
And there's also vasectomies there.
Thank you guys, great pull on the b-roll.
That is the abortion truck that rolled into the DNC from Planned Parenthood.
This is celebrated.
This is considered to be great and really praised by the leadership of the Democrat Party.
This is honored and acknowledged by them as being terrific.
So can you please, Michael, tell us, typical corporate America right now, corporate America is in alignment with Planned Parenthood and they find nothing wrong with this.
Talk about what your company is doing in disagreement, obviously, with what Planned Parenthood is doing.
And I think that what people need to understand, what people need to realize, is that the Planned Parenthood agenda is articulated and held by major corporations in this country.
Is that correct?
It is.
In fact, 300 of the largest companies in the United States, after the overturning of Roe v. Wade two years ago, came out and said, not only are we in support of Planned Parenthood, but we're actually going to fund our employees' abortions.
So if our employees want to travel across state lines, we'll pay for all the travel.
That was the message to their employees.
And these are companies like Amazon.
These are companies like Procter & Gamble.
These are companies like Starbucks or Lululemon.
Some of the main staples of the American economy.
And it's heartbreaking to witness, not only is it very anti-life in nature, but going deeper than that, it's also very sinister for a corporation to actually fund the demise of your family unit.
And they will say that it's because we support a women's right to choose.
But in reality, what Amazon actually cares about is making sure that you stay the cog in the wheel that they need you to be.
They can't deal with the idea that you would take paternity leave and that you would actually leave the corporate entity for a few months or, God forbid, would actually decide to stay home with your kids.
They can't handle that loss in productivity.
So what they'll do instead is say, we care about women's rights.
Here's $4,000.
Go get an abortion.
It's disgusting.
And Charlie, what we've done in response to this is not only celebrating life with our brand, partnering with pregnancy resource centers to ensure that we're giving actual free diapers to mothers in need.
For our own staff, we have 120 team members now on full-time staff.
When any of our staff, Charlie, has a baby or adopts, we actually give a $5,000 after-tax baby bonus to our employees.
We believe ultimately that strong families will build a strong company, just like strong families build a strong nation.
And right now, our birth rate is sinking dramatically across our country.
The last thing we need to do is incentivize the demise of the family unit.
We need to celebrate the growth of our population.
We need to celebrate the growth of the individual families that are making up our companies and our country.
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Why do you think that corporate America is so on board for this depopulation agenda?
Is it that we want you to have no kids so you can be better obedient corporate slaves to whatever ridiculous company that they're employed by?
That's exactly right.
It is certainly about upping productivity, so they believe, within their workforce.
We actually find the opposite, though, by the way.
We find that the best employees that feel like they can have the most longevity and sustainability at our company are the ones that feel like their company has their back to build their families in strength and for them to be able to engage in their community.
Corporate America falsely believes that if they incentivize the destruction of your family unit, that somehow they will receive greater productivity out of you, that you'll work into your 30s and 40s and 50s childless.
And because of that, you'll be a more productive agent for their bottom line.
There's also an immigration play here, Charlie.
The major corporate entities that dominate our country don't love American labor.
At the end of the day, they want immigrant labor.
So they don't really care that the American birth rate is pummeling because they can get Lower wages to pay to foreign-born workers that are coming into the United States.
This is why we've seen foreign-born job growth skyrocket over the last five years, while native-born job growth has actually stayed completely stagnant.
It has flatlined.
It has not grown.
And this is all part of the same agenda.
They don't care if Americans are having less children, as long as we're opening the borders and flooding in immigrants that can do the same job for a lot cheaper.
That's how they view this.
It's all a matter of ones and zeros.
These aren't people on the other end of their interactions if you're a Jeff Bezos or if you're a Starbucks.
They just don't care.
And I hope that consumers take that to heart.
I certainly hope that employees of these corporate entities take that to heart as well.
Corporations and government Are in bed together in order to fully incentivize the destruction of the family unit in the United States, open our borders to allow for lower wages and depress American workers and American small businesses in the process.
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Related to Kamala's economic policies, Charlie, it is absurd to me that not only has she proposed price controls, which is literal communism, it's been tried before.
It's never worked.
If you look at Maduro, you look at Soviet era Russia, if you look at China and the Great Leap Forward, time and time again, price controls, especially related to food, have always been the first pin to drop that ends up destroying your entire economy.
But to go further than that, And to promote things like a 28% corporate tax or a 44% capital gains tax, which is in alignment with Biden's previous proposals, or the most absurd, a 25% tax on unrealized gains, you are going to destroy the innovative and entrepreneurial spirit that has built this country because no longer will there be any incentive for us to build businesses.
That is the intent.
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Those populations are lifting themselves out of poverty.
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dedicated to safe and responsible production of American energy. So Michael, let's go further into Kamala
Harris's economic agenda.
Unrealized capital gains from the inheritance tax to her war on American energy.
You represent more small businesses than any other organization out there.
What would this mean to the American job-creating entrepreneur?
Well, Charlie, we ran a recent survey of our business community.
And as a reminder, we have over 84,000 small business merchants in our community at Public Square.
And over half of them said that if Kamala were to win and to implement her policy agenda, they would no longer be able to survive as a small business.
It's not feasible.
So if you're an entrepreneur in this country and you're looking over the next four years and you have hopes for building a business that can positively impact your consumers and your investors and your community, You should really rush to the ballots and to these polling booths in November and make sure that your vote is cast for economic liberty, because that is what is on the line.
For example, if you look at the unrealized capital gains, if you're an employee or you're a startup founder and you're trying to build a business and you're in the early stages, much of your compensation is actually in stock.
You don't want to drain the company of cash.
Do you actually elect for stock options or restricted stock units in the hopes that one day
you will actually be able to cash in and earn income in accordance with the blood, sweat and tears
you've poured into your business.
When you as an entrepreneur in a state like California, for example, are already paying up to 13%
in capital gains taxes.
And now the federal government under a Kamala Harris administration
would want to up that to an additional 44%.
You can find yourself spending almost 60% of your capital gains.
The hard work that you have put into your business being stripped away from you when you actually want to go
and eventually realize those gains.
And then on top of it, what about in the meantime?
Anytime your portfolio goes up in value, even if you don't actually sell those shares, having to actually pay a 25% tax on the unrealized gain with money you don't have because you never sold the shares in the first place, This would kill the American economy in a very material way.
That's right, and we need to wake up as many entrepreneurs as possible to the pro-growth agenda and the job-creating and wealth-creating agenda of President Donald Trump.
And we see tonight Governor Tim Walz is going to be speaking, which to our prior conversation is connected to some of the most radical pro-abortion policies in the entire country.
What are your entrepreneurs telling you about this election, Michael, as their top concerns and even their political preferences?
Well, if you flash all the way back to the primary, the Republican primary, 92% of our businesses were in favor of President Donald J. Trump.
So even before the general election actually started, our businesses said, I remember what life was like from 2016 to 2020, and I want that economic environment again.
Donald J. Trump proved that he was able to pull it off the first time.
He was a business owner.
He was a business leader.
We need a CEO to govern our country, not a political bureaucrat that spent 50 years in the swamp.
We need a tried and true business leader.
It worked from 2016 to 2020.
It'll work again.
And ultimately, as we near the election right now, they're not only in favor of the economic policies that President Trump has proven works, they're also so vehemently opposed to the policies that you're starting to see out of Harris and Walz and what that agenda would actually look like.
Also, for the Minnesota-specific business owners, they remember very well what COVID was like under Tim Walz.
They have long memories and they remember how Governor Tim Walz imposed the most strict lockdowns in this entire country.
They remember what it was like to face these lockdowns, but then for him to turn around and have no problem with Minneapolis being burnt to the ground.
Many of these small business owners in Minneapolis had to shutter their doors and put wood on the windows because they were horrified that these protests would actually devolve into violence, which is exactly what happened.
So, while you weren't allowed to go visit your sick relatives in the hospital, and you weren't allowed to keep your mom-and-pop business open, he had no problem with allowing for riots to break out in the streets because that was for a just cause like George Floyd.
They remember, and they're not going to forget when they go to the polls this November.
I love that.
Michael C. for everyone.
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Thank you so much, Michael.
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Good to see you, Charlie.
Thank you.
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