The Dems’ Empty, Abstract Convention: DNC DAY 2 REACTIONS
It was the big Obama night at the DNC, with a double dose of speeches from both Barack and Michelle. Charlie and Blake react, and reflect on how Democrats have held office for 12 of the past 16 years yet have no tangible achievements to run on. Why do Democrats have to act like the challengers when they’re the ones in power?Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Barack Obama just finished.
Saying a lot of nothing very, very well.
Michelle Obama gave an objectively very powerful speech, also saying next to nothing.
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Blake, how you doing?
Your reaction to DNC Night 2.
Charlie, I'm doing great.
In case anyone watching is wondering about my shirt, I am wearing my CNN My CNN sucks shirt that a friend gave me for my birthday a couple years ago.
We should offer that as a member giveaway.
I think it's my friend that made it custom, but I'm sure we could probably copy that as long as we don't get sued by CNN.
I'm feeling pretty good overall.
These democratic conventions are always a huge ordeal because they force you to confront like the decayed nature of American politics.
And one of the best things that Donald Trump did is when Donald Trump talks, he does talk
about issues. It's actually what upsets people so much. He'll talk about illegal immigration,
and instead of doing this Obama-esque meandering thing where he'll be like,
let me be clear. The identity of America is opportunity, and we want to give opportunity.
He'll go on forever and ever.
And Trump will just say, yeah, rapists are crossing the border.
We're going to we're going to stop the rapists and the killers.
We're not going to let them.
We're going to build a wall.
And it drives people bonkers.
It drives people bonkers that Trump will just talk about an issue in a straightforward way, the way you could talk about it in a bar or with anyone else, you know, one to one.
And to have to endure, I mean, You were lucky you were traveling, Charlie.
I had to sit and watch five hours of this.
And it's just a relentless assault upon the senses.
I think it's like self-lobotomizing yourself listening to this.
For those who weren't watching earlier, they did the roll call of all the states and all the territories, too.
Can't forget American Samoa and all of that.
All of them casting their delegate ballots for Kamala, plus the five undecided people voting present.
And every single one of them, we had to repeat 55 different times.
They'll have some person there saying like, we're here and we're really proud that in
the state of Wyoming, we have abortions still.
We love abortions so much and we're voting for commoners.
And you just repeat that for every single state.
They'll talk about abortions and then sometimes they'd have this like mascot.
But New Jersey brought a transgender person along, it was either a transgender person
or just a very unfortunate.
That was their mascot?
Yeah, it's like, they'll have these mascots along with them.
Like, it's really jarring when you see them doing it.
It'll be like, alright, let's grab the one person here who doesn't look like they came out of an Aaron Sorkin flick.
Alright, there we go.
And...
Ugh.
And they just did this for an hour, and then...
It just comes... It just is one thing after another.
And as we were talking about, it's...
It's...
All of the platitudes, and then the only big issue they really harp on is abortion.
And it's so dark.
It's very dark.
Let's go to Jack Posobiec who's in the interior of the DNC following the Charlie Kirk tradition of going into the DNC.
Jack Posobiec, what are you seeing?
What are you hearing in the DNC?
Do we have Jack Posobiec in the DNC?
So, Barack Obama just ended, and we're thinking about doing a little bit of man-on-the-street type stuff here while we're in, because I was very interested as to why it was that nobody mentioned Donald Trump's assassination attempt.
The fact that a crazed leftist shot up a Donald Trump rally, went after him, shot Donald Trump, and shot and killed a firefighter, and yet not one person has mentioned Corey Comptrey.
You thought at least Obama would.
When talking about his, you know, his unifying the countries, unifying rhetoric, we heard none of it whatsoever.
So I think we might do a little man-on-the-street stuff here.
What do you say?
Let's do that.
Yeah, Jack, why don't you go ask some people what they think, what they're doing.
So yeah, go ahead, Jack.
And you'll have lots of witnesses if something happens to you.
We will.
All right, let's see how it goes.
Hold on.
Can you still hear me if I do this?
If I pull this out?
Won't you be able to hear everything?
Yeah, it's not as good, though.
It's not as good.
And that was the last time they ever saw Jack Pestozak alive.
Yeah, as Jack tries to find an abortion zealot, I want to remind you guys, you can email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
Why is that?
Is Jack yelling into the crowd?
Is it a good idea or a bad idea?
No.
She has a mask.
You're masked!
Jack, you should flip your camera around.
Why didn't you hear that?
You're ready to go.
You said that happened, right?
What?
I'm so, I'm so confused.
I don't understand.
Keep going, Jack.
Let's see, let's see who we can ask here.
This is the best thing ever.
Jack, you should ask people in masks if they're masks because we are in a pandemic.
Oh, they're from Hawaii.
You think they should have brought it up?
What do you think?
It's your chance to be a star.
What do you think?
What do you think?
They don't want to answer the question.
I understand why they don't want to answer the question.
So, what do you think of the Trump assassination attempt?
I have no comment on it.
No comment?
Why not?
You think it's bad though, right?
I think it's not great, but... But what?
But what?
It's not great, but... It's not great?
What does that mean?
I'm confused.
I'm so confused.
What does that mean?
It should seem pretty simple.
It's pretty simple to be able to say, hey, that was bad.
What else can we talk to?
What else can we talk to?
What else can we talk to over here?
We're going to get on the radio.
We're live right here.
Jack Posobiec on the interior of the DNC right now, as he is searching for delegate Lennings to ask questions.
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As Jack Posobiec continues doing front lines here.
Boy, they look like Democrats, don't they, Blake?
I mean, just... I love the mask thing.
Like, we're gonna have... I wonder who will be the last COVID mask wearer.
Like, it's fun to imagine this as a sci-fi thing.
Like, someone, it's 2050, and this person is still a recluse in their house, and they're, like, berating people who walk by, and they're like, we're in a pandemic!
I wanna unmute Jack here.
I wanna...
Any one of them could just be like, yeah, we denounce that.
We don't like that.
But you see, the Democrats won't actually denounce political violence.
Why won't they do that?
Why won't they simply denounce political violence?
That's it.
Get this man so we can bring him down.
Say it again, it's political violence.
Jack, keep going.
The audience is loving this.
Jack, just go up to some of these NPCs and ask them.
Video games have gotten more advanced.
Sometimes you have to talk to them twice to get the right dialogue prompt in the game.
I want you to announce it.
Do you have any comments on that?
You denounce that, right?
So you denounce it.
I wish she'd announce it.
It's very strange.
She had a lot to say when she was on the floor, but not a lot to say now.
This is very strange.
I'm very confused.
Why they want to denounce that?
Hey guys, real quick, we're doing a Trump assassination attempt.
You guys denounced that, right?
Trump assassination attempt?
Totally against that, right?
No?
Yes?
Maybe?
I don't know.
No answer.
This is a good answer.
Hey, how you doing?
literally across the street boy the mask per capita thing is really remarkable
Okay, we're trying to find one person.
Can I find one person here who will denounce the Trump assassination attempt?
Will anyone here denounce the Trump assassination attempt?
You, sir.
Will you denounce the Trump assassination attempt?
All you have to do is say yes.
Just one person.
That's all I need.
One person to say they denounce the Trump assassination attempt.
They really are like NPCs.
They just... Oh, hold on.
Hold on.
We got a good one.
He's doing an interview right now.
Hold on.
This is good.
This is good.
We got someone.
We got a good person to interview here in a second.
Guys, anybody want to denounce the Trump assassination attempt?
Did you guys see that?
Did you see that in Butler?
When they took a shot at him?
Ma'am, you saw that, right?
It's very terrible.
Why are they incapable of answering this question?
What were your thoughts on that?
My name is Jack Posobiec.
I'm with Real America's Voice.
Well, it shouldn't matter, right?
It shouldn't matter.
It's just, what do you think?
I'm glad no one got hurt.
Well, someone was killed.
I'm glad that Mr. Trump got hurt.
Seriously.
All right.
All right.
Appreciate that.
Democrats actually don't want any physical harm to happen, even to someone they don't like like Donald Trump.
I feel badly for this gentleman who was killed, of course, and we know the way to solve that is to make sure that People who shouldn't have guns don't have access to assault weapons like AR-15s.
So how would you get the guns out then?
More police?
I'll tell you my solution.
You tell me if it works.
I'm fine with everyone buying 100 AR-15s or pistols or whatever.
I just don't want to protect their home.
Right?
Or to go hunting if they have to or go to a shooting range or a hospital.
We have scooters at least in California where They're geo-fenced, right?
You can't drive them beyond a certain geographical area.
Well, the public ones.
You can buy them.
No, I understand, but the point is technology exists to geo-fence using GPS technology.
So how about if we just put those on everyone's guns, we give them an area to protect their home and some area around that, but not to be used at a school, not to be used at a church, not to be used at a baseball game.
How about that?
I drive scooters every once in a while.
I mean, it's 2024, right?
So maybe there are solutions, and we Democrats are all about solutions.
If there are solutions, that actually can allow people to enjoy their Second Amendment rights,
and at the same time, keep innocent people safe.
All right, we appreciate that.
What do you think of my suggestion about the geofencing?
What do I think?
Yeah.
I mean, I think it would work for people who go into it, but it would be very easy to get around.
No, but the point is, If you are caught with a weapon outside of your geographical area, you're protecting your own home and your family.
So you support police then taking those guns away?
No, I support people going to prison if they disable the geofencing on their assault weapons.
Right, so if someone takes a step out of that geolocation, the cops come, they take their gun away.
I don't think a step is going to be a problem, but If someone is outside the area where they should be, where they are protecting their family, and they have disabled a geofenced lock on their gun, that would be a crime.
Just like having heroin would be a crime.
Well, the heroin is not protected by the Nazis.
Well, there's an argument about whether people in the libertarian way to look at the world, but AR-15s are not supposed to be accountable to the owned by people, for example, a 15-year-old.
There's a constitution that's not hateful.
I'm a lawyer that actually...
Okay, what part of the second amendment is hateful?
So the second amendment is about a well... is about a militia.
Right, there are a lot of things that are left to interpretation.
So there's a lot that's not there.
There is not in the Constitution a right to personal ownership of guns.
Okay, we're gonna be back with more with Jack Posobiec in just a second here as they continue to debate the finer points of the Second Amendment.
Do you think they'll still be going whenever we end the show?
They might.
First of all, that was the dumbest argument ever.
So your rights end as soon as you go outside your home, so you only have First Amendment protections and privacy protections.
You can only vote within your home.
So only your home you're allowed to have unalienable rights.
So it's cool to be able to speak your mind as long as you're in the home.
It's kind of like Tim Walz.
The First Amendment ends as soon as you're using your free speech to say misinformation or anything Tim Walz doesn't like.
Just have the designated constitution zone at home.
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Blake, that's just such an interesting window.
Into the liberal mind?
He's like, yeah, you know, I have an idea.
We have these scooters that are micromanaged by some sort of central bullet bureau.
Maybe we could do the same.
Inside of every Democrat activist and voter is a totalitarian waiting to get out.
Blake, your thoughts as we... I think Jack is still yammering with this guy.
Yeah, it's a blatant thing.
You see it really happening badly in the homeland of many of the freedoms we appreciate, the United Kingdom, where they're basically going full Big Brother.
Tens of thousands of people are being arrested and convicted for speech offenses.
They are going to pass an official legal ban on saying mean things about the prophet, peace be upon him, on the internet.
England and yeah all these technocratic ways to make freedom much more
circumscribed than it ever was in the past yeah let's take this right that
says shall not be infringed and say oh what if what if we used a vast panopticon
and had a central government database where we'll monitor every item that
you're carrying to make sure you don't take it out of the constant you know the
25 square meter Constitution zone in your living room and then that'll that'll
be the good way to balance balance freedom and we'll have a we'll have a
free speech zone that's in your bathroom where you can yell into your toilet if
you feel like you have opinions about things but don't don't do it anywhere
else then then that might cause misinformation It's baffling, and I still think the best sign, though, of their mental state is all of the masks.
This gets more and more glaring the longer it goes on.
They're going to put up a Senate candidate in 2036, and they're going to be masked, and their number one issue is going to be making sure people know that we live in a pandemic, and the immunocompromised are in danger.
But I do see a through line here, which is, of course, we have big hearts here and we're very compassionate.
The Democrats go out of their way to try to find a group that is allegedly victimized to try to create a movement against people that have more than them.
Blake, at its core, it seems as if this is a rebellion against excellence.
That there is a movement against what is beautiful, good, and true, against hierarchies that act like we have zero compassion, when in reality, they have no compassion whatsoever for actually who matters.
But, Blake, civilization is hard.
To be able that we have common law, roads, bridges, that we have police officers, firefighters.
You said something very smart the other day.
Poverty is the norm, not the exception.
Can you riff on that?
And excellence is the rarity in the human condition.
Yeah, for sure.
So just to explain to people what we're referencing, Ayanna Pressley, a member of the Squad, she once had a line, I think this was two or three years ago at this point, where she said something about poverty's a choice and we could get rid of poverty if we just changed the rules so that everyone got resources shared a different way.
And that's a lie, of course.
You are... all of us would just be born... all of us are born naked and deprived, naturally.
Our natural state of being is we live in a dangerous world filled with predators and disease and a harsh environment, and it is only through thousands of years that we change that.
And all of that goes away if we don't maintain civilization.
And...
It is a long-running historical debate.
You know, what should we prize the most?
How far should we go to protect and uplift the weak?
And I think both of us would agree probably that the happy medium is, you know, Christian morality, which says you should be courageous and brave and try to do excellent things and you should temper that with humility and concern for others.
And that's how you create the balancing act that is European Christian civilization.
That we are able to care for and protect the weak, but we don't hate those who are strong.
We instead say, if you are strong, you have a duty towards other people.
But this easily can become warped and convoluted.
It becomes hatred of those who are successful.
Hatred of any idea that one person could be more talented than anyone else.
More successful than anyone else, better than anyone else.
And if you allow that to run wild, which the modern left is certainly doing, you get this sort of monster that just annihilates civilization.
You get what happens in Kamala City of San Francisco.
San Francisco is one of the richest cities in the world.
It is the center of one of the most dynamic Wealth-producing engines in the history of humanity.
That's right.
The United States tech industry.
And it has essentially unlimited money.
It has great weather.
It is a naturally beautiful city.
It was a beautiful city for a hundred years.
Jack said he just got Holder.
He got Holder?
Wait, did we get Jack getting Eric Holder?
Okay, my rant will go on pause.
Let's go to Jack.
I hope someone was recording that.
Wait, I, did we, did someone, was someone recording that while it was happening?
Hope so.
We don't have Jack, so I hope Jack recorded it.
I'm sorry, Blake, to interrupt you.
Yeah, no problem, no problem.
But San Francisco, what is it?
It's a filthy city.
It's filled with feces.
It has a ton of crime, but what's really telling is most cities that are destroyed by crime, it fully falls apart.
Chicago has normal crime and it has murders.
San Francisco's not that dangerous of a city.
You don't get murdered.
They could easily stop the crime that they have.
It's all retail theft, urban blight, people just break into your cars.
These are all, importantly, crimes it is trivially easy to stop.
You put out some bait cars, you wait for them to get robbed, you arrest the person, you put them in jail, 15 years.
You do that for a month, there's no more car theft anymore.
For shoplifting, you just say, we're going to vaporize the people who do shoplifting.
Grab them.
10 years.
Again, you could very easily stop all of this.
They choose to live in this crime-infested state that people find miserable because They really deep down I think it makes them uncomfortable to live in a nice city and it's jarring when you can go to countries that are one-third one-quarter as wealthy as the United States are and their cities will feel better because they haven't
Internalize this bizarre anti-civilization impulse to say crime is amazing, urban blight is amazing, it's actually better to be impoverished than to be successful.
If you are successful, you should just give up everything you have.
While they've been doing this whole display, this like abortion sacrament in Chicago, the other news today is Kamala's team On top of the whole price control mechanism they talked about last week, they're now endorsing Joe Biden's plan to tax unrealized capital gains, which is just straight up, you might make money on that in the future, we're going to tax you on it right now.
Very acquisitive.
It's not an attitude of, we have taxes to fund the government, to do things that we as a society collectively need.
It's resentment-based taxation.
It is, we want to raise taxes on you because we are angry that you possess things.
How dare that you, by existing, imply that you are better than us?
And it's anti-American.
It's destructive.
Let's go to, this is Michelle Obama going after Trump at the DNC.
Of all the lines, this one really upset me the most.
This is just another pure lie, acting as if Donald Trump said something he didn't say.
When President Trump was talking about black unemployment, and he said, you know, oh, black jobs, and then that snarky woman from ABC said, oh, well, do you mean, like, what is a black job?
He's like, well, a job that a black person has.
Play cut 56.
For years, Donald Trump did everything in his power to try to make people fear us.
See, his limited, narrow view of the world made him feel threatened by the existence of two hard-working, highly educated, successful people who happen to be black.
I want to know.
I want to know.
Who's gonna tell him, who's gonna tell him that the job he's currently seeking might just be one of those black jobs?
It's so rehearsed and it's so fake and of course the audience loves it.
Pure race baiting and sent something Donald Trump doesn't believe and did not say.
Continues, Michelle Obama said here, cut 57, Americans don't have a right to decide who enters our country, play cut 57.
All of our contributions deserve to be accepted and valued.
Because no one has a monopoly on what it means to be an American.
No one!
Michelle Obama said about Kamala Harris, she's shown her allegiance to this nation, not by spewing anger or bitterness.
Play cut 59.
has shown her allegiance to this nation, not by spewing anger and bitterness, but by living a life of service and always pushing the doors of opportunity open to others.
She understands that most of us will never be afforded the grace of failing forward.
We will never benefit from the affirmative action of generational wealth.
If things don't go our way, we don't have the luxury of whining or cheating others to get further ahead.
No!
We don't get to change the rules so we always win.
If we see a mountain in front of us, we don't expect there to be an escalator waiting to take us to the top.
So I think it's time, Blake.
She talks about the affirmative action of inherited wealth.
Did Michelle Obama get into Princeton on her own merit?
And what did somebody say about, was it Christopher Hitchens that said that she was, it was barely I've got the quote here.
I've got the quote here.
Yeah, please.
No, I mean, obviously it's fair game now that she's accusing the most successful billionaire developer who succeeded in everything that he has done in his life as failing upward.
Talk about Michelle Obama.
Yeah, so Michelle Obama, Michelle Robinson as a young woman.
Sorry, everyone.
She was a young woman.
She was told, she'll talk about this in speeches, that she was told her test scores were not good enough to go to Princeton, and then she'll tell this as like an inspiring, you can overcome anything thing, where she's like, I kept at it and I was able to go.
All I will say is, if she, if, you know, her name was, you know, Michelle Rhee and she was from, her parents were from Korea or Vietnam or China, That would have been the end of her story, but fortunately she was not of that background, so she was able to go to Princeton.
She wrote a thesis while at Princeton, an undergraduate thesis, and this is what Christopher Hitchens, the acerbic British atheist, wrote about it.
I direct your attention to Mrs. Obama's 1985 thesis at Princeton University.
Its title, Christopher Hitchens.
He was a popular left-wing writer back in the day.
campus is, quote, Princeton educated blacks and the black community. To describe it as
hard to read would be a mistake. The thesis cannot be read at all in the strict sense
of the verb. This is because it was not written in any known language. Christopher Hitchens,
he was a he was a popular left-wing writer back in the day.
I feel like the writers they have aren't aren't quite as good these days.
Yep.
And so yeah, Michelle Obama is accusing Donald Trump of the affirmative action of inherited wealth.
That's very rich coming from her.
And she's just, she's inviting the taunts, obviously.
Okay, Jack Pasovic has run into Eric Holder, who obviously didn't do his job vetting Tim Walz.
Let's play Cut 68.
Excuse me, H.E.
Holder, H.E.
Holder, why didn't you vet Tim Walz?
Why didn't you vet Tim Walz?
What about Stolen Valor?
Why are you hurting me?
What about Stolen Valor?
Why didn't you vet him for stolen valor, AG Holder?
Excuse me.
You know you're a fool, okay?
He got him to snap, Blake.
He got him to snap, because he knows that he's right.
Speaking of DEI pick, Eric Holder's a DEI pick.
There's a much longer clip, by the way, that is going viral on Twitter of Jack Posobiec confronting former Attorney General Eric Holder.
As Jack Posobiec continues...
Have some fun with the DNC.
We're going to keep on giving you updates here.
I want to harp on that a bit more on Michelle Obama.
If you look at her career, it's actually a lot like, it kind of reminds me of Kamala.
So Kamala, of course, slept with Willie Brown and used that to get jobs on California boards where you go to two meetings for an hour a month, or you go to two hour-long meetings a month and get paid.
It was about $150,000 in today's money.
This was back in the 90s.
Meanwhile, Michelle Obama, her career was, she was at a law firm very briefly, and then she seems to have basically, if you read between the lines and know how the legal industry works, she basically failed at this.
And then her home run is, her husband gets elected to the Senate, and then she's put on one of those, she's on the board of a hospital, and it pays like $500,000 a year.
And all I'm going to say is, I don't think she would have gotten that job if she were still Michelle Robinson.
I think having Obama on her name, and that being the same name as a senator from Illinois, Probably helped a little bit in her doing that.
That said, she is a lot better at politics than Kamala is.
I would say a big takeaway tonight is I am very glad that Kamala refused to be shoved aside in favor of Michelle Obama being the nominee.
I don't care for her.
I don't care for her politics.
But she is much better at giving a speech than Kamala Harris is.
She's much better at riffing off the cuff.
And she doesn't have Kamala's laugh, which Doug Emhoff was praising during his speech tonight.
I'm happy for Doug Emhoff that he likes the laugh.
I'm happy for Kamala that she found the one man on earth who likes the laugh.
But I don't like the laugh.
I don't think America likes the laugh.
I think we are fortunate to be running against the laugh.
Can we appreciate how much, how Donald Trump lives in the Obama's head rent-free?
Because Obama thought that he would be, without a doubt, the most popular politician of the millennium.
That there would be no one for 25 years, 30 years, that come even close.
And Donald Trump is, in similar ways, has Obama-style characteristics.
Very charismatic, populist, insurgent, came out of nowhere.
And you see this in the speech.
Barack Obama is genuinely rattled by Trump.
Like, genuinely rattled and upset by Trump.
You'll see here, this is Barack Obama.
Also, they spend so much time Talking about Donald Trump.
And yes, he is the nominee.
But they can't help themselves.
It's so funny.
They say, oh yeah, we just talk about policies and policies.
Really?
They do nothing but attack him personally.
They attack him personally.
Play cut 65.
Here's a 78-year-old billionaire who has not stopped whining about his problems since he rode down his golden escalator nine years ago.
It has been a constant stream of gripes and grievances that's actually been getting worse now that he's afraid of losing to Kamala.
There's the childish nicknames, the crazy conspiracy theories, this weird obsession with crowd sizes.
It's like you said, one thing... Yeah, please.
One thing you alluded to, but it has to be remembered, is Trump is basically Obama's fault.
It seems that if you go back into the lore, the thing that really tipped Trump into wanting to run for president was when Obama was bullying him at, I think it was the White House Correspondents' Dinner.
You know, the, at least I will go down as president.
And it seems, if not for that joke, I think it's very plausible Trump doesn't actually run.
That was, I have to beat him, I have to prove that I can do it.
So that's the thing.
And as you said, it's not just that he upset Obama's legacy.
He kind of stole the entire era.
I think a lot of people thought, oh, we'd have the age of Obama and he would define America.
And instead, we clearly very much live in Trump's age.
Whether you like him or not, he is the defining figure of the first quarter of this century, far more than Obama is.
Yeah, I think Obama seems to be a little annoyed at that.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
And let's just reiterate this, that Donald Trump disrupted the Obama era where he was able to choose presidents.
And in some ways, Obama was so upset because he decided to pass the torch to Hillary, not to Biden.
And no, that was, and it was an embarrassment to Obama's staying power, an embarrassment to Obama's political machine or what was left of it.
Let's continue.
Again, they don't go after policy, not about immigration, not about inflation, not about grocery prices, but it is nicely put, beautifully crafted, charismatically delivered, slippery nonsense.
Let's play cut 67.
We do not need four more years.
A bluster and bumbling and chaos.
We have seen that movie before and we all know that the sequel is usually worse.
America's ready for a new chapter.
America's ready for a better story.
We are ready for a President Kamala Harris.
So Blake, I suppose here is the question.
I'm glad that Michelle Obama is not running and that Kamala Harris is, but do you think in this era, this sort of bluster and this nonsense has the same appeal it did back in 2008 when it just swept the country in pandemonium?
Or have things, have they not changed?
Can we counter it because we have Trump?
If Michelle Obama were to run, what would that mean based on what you saw tonight?
You know, I think sometimes certain individuals do have a certain magical powers to them.
It's sort of like how Trump is indestructible.
Trump has had 50 different moments where people thought, oh, he's done now, the walls are closing in, and he just always bounces back from it.
And I think in a similar way, the Obamas do seem to have that.
As much as we say Trump has overthrown his legacy, Obama doesn't have nearly as much of a legacy as he would have liked, Obama himself is just Popular.
I don't think the polls are a lie that showed Michelle Obama easily beating Trump if she were the one who'd run.
I think polls showed that if Obama had run in 2016, he would have won.
You can debate that, but I think it's basically probably true.
Obama is a popular guy.
Now, his style, I do think, isn't translating very well.
I think Obama has a certain magical magnetism to millennials, and it just doesn't go away.
But I think a lot of people are fed up with it, and that is what gave Trump so much power.
He was very much the contrast to that.
He is the guy who just chops in and says, yeah, all of that weird crap you said about, oh, you know, we don't, we can secure the border without separating people.
Actually, no, that's like crap.
You're full of crap.
You just want to have open borders to bring in people to vote for you.
He says those impolite things that make people really mad.
But are obviously true.
And he's done that so much that he's just greatly changed the entire tenor of politics.
And I think one of the signs that that's true is read the statements coming out of the Kamala campaign HQ.
We've got these like war of words back and forth between the Kamala camp and the Trump camp.
And both of them sound like They're trying to be Donald Trump.
Obviously Trump sounds like Trump.
But the Democrats are trying to get the same energy of being really aggressive.
They're ridiculing Trump in a much more aggressive way than they would have ridiculed any other candidate before the Trump era.
They are trying to They're trying to copy Trump's method of, oh, we're gonna say the raw truth, so we're just gonna mock Trump, we're gonna bully him, we're just gonna say he's, like, senile.
They're really, really aggressive.
They're trying to copy Trump.
They're not trying to copy Obama.
Obama can stand up tonight, do his whole Obama thing, it'll get a ton of claps from the audience, it'll probably get great reviews from the press, but Obama's style of politics is not What they're running with in this cycle, and it's not what you'll be seeing from either party in the future, I think.
And I'll say this, that Obama can talk his way very, very well.
But absent Donald Trump, these people have had control of the country 12 out of the last 16 years.
12 out of the last 16 years, they have had complete control of this country.
So if you feel like this country's been going in the wrong direction, if you feel as if, you know, the borders are open, that you're purchasing power is deteriorating, they have been in charge.
This is the incumbent power structure.
And they act as if that they're fighting the system.
That they are fighting the man.
Let's continue here that the other side knows it's easy to play on other people's fears and cynicism.
They'll tell you that the government is inherently corrupt.
I think this is a big losing message for Obama.
I think that people generally in this country know after the vaccine and COVID and six feet of distance and 15 days until the spread and closing down schools and mandatory masks and the lies about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and the double standard when it comes to Notes.
It's easier to play on people's fears and cynicism.
Always has been.
They've lied about the border, they've lied about Ukraine, they've lied about the amount
of people in this country, they've lied about so many things.
And Obama is the pro-institutional to institutionalist?
Play cut 64.
That sacrifice and generosity are for suckers.
Again, Blake, this suckers and losers hoax.
J.B.
Pritzker again repeated tonight that Donald Trump wanted people to inject bleach.
There's so many of these hoaxes that they continue to push.
This is all they have.
They have been in charge of the country 12 out of the last 16 years.
And Blake, you do not hear them running on a record.
They run on projection and abstractions.
How much more will people buy this?
Projection, abstractions, and outrageous fear-mongering about one specific guy who notably has already been president before and at the least if he was a threat to democracy it wasn't enough of a threat to stop him from surrendering power again after four years.
It is, you know, we talked about on the show last week, the origin of gaslighting.
It really is It really is a strong tool in their arsenal.
They like to use that word because it comes very naturally to them.
They basically... The gaslighting comes in where they'll repeat a lie that is so debunked, even their own favorite sites will debunk it.
When we say that the Very Fine People thing they say is a lie, we're not linking to an article on, you know, that we created.
We're not linking to a post-millennial article.
We're not linking to something on The Blaze or The Daily Wire or whatever.
We're linking to Snopes, which is a website run by, like, an angry left-winger, I believe.
Even they say it's bogus the bleach thing bogus. They have to admit this
Yes.
They just repeat it over and over and it's like if you repeat it enough people will just think it's true
It's kind of like I bet we'll run into Democrats who will be
Joking about Trump getting hit by a piece of glass in his ear when we know that that's false
But lots of Democrats just believe it because they repeated it enough times that it became embedded in their head
Heck, Democrats still think that Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house.
That was a bit in Saturday Night Live.
And so they do that.
And then the other gaslighting is, of course, just It's like they're positioning themselves really genuinely as the challenger party, and Donald Trump is the incumbent.
Nate Silver has even written about this, that the entire vibe of the race is the feeling that because Kamala is the new person, she hasn't run for president before, she's the challenger, and can they really bamboozle America enough into thinking, yeah, Kamala is the new person who has a new vision, When it's just, no, she's the vice president of an administration that is historically unpopular and was going to get blown up if it stayed on the ticket.
She has the ideology that has been the prestige ruling ideology of the United States for nearly two decades now during a period where the overwhelming consensus on both sides is America has been in steep decline.
This is the ideology of American decline.
And they're just like, oh, we can ram through all of that, say that Trump is a rapist, bad man who did all these crime things, and he'll destroy democracy if you elect him.
And that's their whole argument.
They don't have... For a party that is in power as much as the Democrats are, it is shocking how few things they have to brag about.
Obama even brought up the Affordable Care Act.
He passed that 15 years ago!
And it's still a disaster.
So let's play more tape here from tonight.
I want to get J.B.
Pritzker here.
Let's see what other...
Yeah, it was really Michelle and Barack were the main ones, and they had this just very hard-to-watch roll call.
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I don't know what happened to Jack Posobiec.
I'm not sure where Jack Pasovic is.
He's headed back to the hotel, I believe.
Good.
Democrats tonight talked about looking out for the little guy while demonizing rich corporations and the successful.
But the average net worth of the speakers on stage tonight was probably north of $100 million.
J.B.
Pritzker alone worth $3.5 billion.
3.5 billion dollars.
And Bernie Sanders spoke tonight.
Do we have any Bernie Sanders clips?
We'll get these for tomorrow.
Bernie Sanders said, quote, that billionaires should not be able to rig or choose who is in charge of either party.
Well, you guys are the party of billionaires.
While Alexander Soros is there, Lorene Powell Jobs, J.B.
Pritzker, they are the party of the oligarchy and the party of the multiple billionaires.
Michelle Obama says, until recently, I've mourned the dimming of that hope.
And maybe you've experienced the same feelings.
Is that a pit in my stomach?
A palpable sense of dread about the future?
Now, look, Michelle Obama has well-documented anxiety problems.
And it's very interesting.
When they are not in control of political power, they get anxiety.
And being at the DNC, and Blake, I think you would have saw this if you would have come, if we would have had more passes, we would have definitely brought you and the team, that this, for them, is church.
For them, this was a religious experience.
Let's play Cut 58.
Until recently, I have mourned the dimming of that hope.
And maybe you've experienced the same feelings?
That deep pit in my stomach?
A palpable sense of dread about the future?
Blake, I mean, it's so dark.
And now she's saying, now I have hope because of Kamala Harris.
The apocalyptic undertones of the Democrat Party is dramatic.
For them, this is their identity.
This is their purpose.
This is why they do what they do.
Yes, Blake.
We shared this earlier.
There was a tweet by writer Jessica Valenti, and her bio, if you click on Twitter, is, I'm not making this up, I write about abortion every day.
She is a full-time abortion obsessive.
Great epithet to put on your gravestone one day.
And she tweeted this two nights ago, or I think it was last night, but, I'm watching the DNC from vacation and didn't expect to fully cry when Kamala Harris came out.
It's just such a relief.
Very stable, very stable ruling elites we have, you know, sobbing, sobbing in tears over their abortion superhero, Kamala Harris, swooping in to save them in Chicago.
Great, great, great ruling elite that we have.
You can remember that, remember when like James Madison wrote that?
And he was like, I didn't expect when George Washington walked into Independence Hall to fully cry.
What a relief.
I missed that Federalist paper.
It really is remarkable, and just the connection that they have to just politics is really something.
I also just want to push back on just some of the blackpilling, because there's, you know, when you listen to Michelle speak and you hear the applause, you're like, oh my goodness, can we win?
Just so everyone is clear, talking to Democrats in Chicago, they are not nearly as confident about their own chances as you might think they are.
It's one of the reasons why J.B.
Pritzker had to lie now with a debunked Snopes hoax.
Play cut 78.
During COVID, we supported small businesses and jobs.
And Donald, well, Donald told us to inject bleach.
Okay, so first of all, no one respects him because, as you can tell, people are still milling about and the hall is full of noise at his own convention in Illinois.
Secondly, again, this inject bleach, if they did not have lies, they had nothing to run on.
Nothing.
Nothing whatsoever.
J.B.
Pritzker, the failed governor of Illinois, a man who was born on 3rd and thought he had a triple, who has helped destroy the great state of Illinois and further put it into oblivion, Is telling us that Donald Trump wanted people to inject bleach?
Very typical of the Democrat Party.
A couple more cuts here of Barack Obama.
This is really something.
We do not want more four years of bluster, bumbling, and chaos.
We are currently on the verge of World War III.
We are funding a proxy war against Russia and Ukraine, which, mind you, they are avoiding.
They're not talking about bragging about Ukraine.
There's another war in the Middle East that is looming.
We are being invaded on our southern border.
10 million people come in our country, nearly 5,000 to 10,000 people a day.
And we want more of the same?
Do you notice that they do not talk about the amazing things she's done as vice president?
Oh yeah, she's managed the border and that she's brokered peace.
No, she does not have a record because the record that she has is one that deep down they're very proud of, but it results in the destruction of the United States of America.
Play cut 67.
We do not need four more years.
A bluster and bumbling and chaos.
We have seen that movie before and we all know that the sequel is usually worse.
America's ready for a new chapter.
America's ready for a better story.
We are ready for a President Kamala Harris.
Blake, can you speak about this?
Again, Obama talking about no more bluster, bumbling, and chaos.
They try to paint the Trump years as being chaotic.
What was only chaotic was their portrayal of this.
We've been living through bedlam the last couple of years.
Yeah, it's something I do think the Trump campaign should be more aggressive on.
I think if there's one thing where Trump has just been a thousand percent vindicated since his presidency, it's on his foreign policy, which was endlessly attacked while he was in office.
Yet the facts just so objectively speak for themselves that there were no new conflicts.
The stuff he did was basically successful.
He did things that had not happened under prior administrations.
He created peace deals in the Middle East that had been on hold for half a century.
He even had that engagement with North Korea.
Did it end perfectly?
No, but it was far closer than we'd ever been before.
And then he leaves and it's just almost immediately everything starts to disintegrate.
We have Russia invades Ukraine.
I think it's almost universally agreed that Putin would not have taken that risk if Trump was still in office because, among other things, he just wouldn't know exactly how Donald Trump would respond to it.
And it's A lot of it is like the sheer predictability of how the left reacts to every foreign policy thing by being predictable and also very America last in all of its behaviors makes them sort of easy to shove around, easy to manipulate.
And Trump didn't have that.
So Trump had peace in the Middle East because people were scared of him.
He had peace with Russia because Russia respected him and, you know, was afraid of him.
And you'd see that over and over and he leaves, immediately everything starts to fall apart.
You have war in Israel, you have war in Ukraine, you have the collapse in Afghanistan, you
might have a war in Iran by the time, a war in Lebanon by the time that we get to election
day.
Maybe a war in Taiwan, who knows?
It truly is very obvious that America is going through this radical drop in its international power, and everyone can see it happening.
And the only thing I worry is that people, too many voters, they know this, but they don't know it, know it, in that it only comes into their head if it's being talked about on the news.
And there's very much a deliberate Moved by the media, I think, to say only domestic politics is happening right now.
We're not seeing too much coverage.
The Israel-Iran showdown is still going on.
Is anyone talking about it?
Not really.
Is anybody talking about the Ukraine war?
Not as much.
They very much want to tamp this down and just hope that if they're not talking about it, it won't be in voters' minds.
And are they able to pull that off?
Unfortunately, maybe.
I'm afraid you're right.
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Blake, final thoughts.
Do you feel better?
Overall, overall I think I feel good.
We're going to have to endure a lot of positive coverage of them, but I do think we've seen, they have in an interesting way hurt their own momentum.
than I'll give you my thoughts of what my take being on the ground.
Overall I think I feel good.
We're going to have to endure a lot of positive coverage of them, but I do think we've seen
... they have in an interesting way hurt their own momentum.
It seems a lot of coverage going ... they got a surprisingly big backlash to Kamala
finally releasing her first big policy idea and it was price gouging.
A lot of press outlets were extremely unimpressed by this, and they vocally said so.
I think that was a sour note right as they were going into this.
And then, yeah, Obama's speech was fine.
In just the normal ways, if you're a normie American watching it, I think it'll give you fuzzy feelings to see Obama talking, to see Michelle talking.
Oh yeah, I remember Obama.
He was OK.
Everyone thinks the president is better once they're in the past.
And same deal with Joe Biden's speech.
I know obviously we didn't care for it, but I think they stage managed it pretty
well to make Biden look all right.
And they'll do the same thing tomorrow with Walz.
They'll do it with Kamala.
But I don't think we're having any kind of big meltdown.
I don't think they're hitting it out of the park.
And as long as they're not doing that, I think their inherent weaknesses are only going to grow more glaring with time.
They are still stuck with Kamala Harris.
They are stuck with a woman that they did not want on the ticket for all of the manifest weaknesses she has.
She's not good on her feet.
She's not good on policy.
She's not really naturally that likable.
She doesn't have a compelling personal story.
All of those things are going to bubble up, and I just am very skeptical that they'll be able to essentially run the gaslighting campaign for two whole months of, don't ask too many questions about Kamala, just don't think about it too hard, just vote for her because Trump is bad and he'll end democracy.
I think that is the fundamental flaw of the Democratic game plan, and I don't see anything this week that is making that flaw go away.
Well said.
I actually feel better after being at the DNC.
They're all vibes.
They're all emotion.
They are still Democrats.
They have a failed record.
They have no record whatsoever to run on the economy, on the border, on inflation, on foreign policy.
It's all about vibes.
It's all about abortion.
It's all about some of the nastiest stuff that we have in our society.
And I think they're incredibly beatable, especially as we get organized and we are able to marshal our troops towards the end.
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