Is the American Dream now in El Salvador? with Darren Beattie and Jack Posobiec
The American Dream of safety, prosperity, and home ownership still exists...but does it exist in America anymore? Darren Beattie of Revolver takes Charlie on an around-the-world tour, comparing the affordability of other countries with how prices have spiraled out of control even in America's mid-tier cities. Plus, Darren assesses the best way for Tucker Carlson to come back into the limelight, and Jack Posobiec joins to discuss the Covenant School's effort to suppress the Nashville shooting manifesto, and how the Daniel Penny episode demonstrates the right's dramatically improved response to BLM frenzies.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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America's Third World Status00:14:52
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Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Darren Beattie joins the program.
We talked about, is America becoming a third world country?
It's a provocative question, but we go deeply into that.
And then Jack Pesobic gives us the latest out of the Nashville Shooters Manifesto or lack thereof.
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Joining us now is Jack Pesobic.
Jack, thank you for joining the program.
Jack, you have been doing a great job of keeping the pressure on.
Where's the manifesto?
People are moving on, six dead people in Tennessee.
And we do not yet have the manifesto of the evil psychopath who is rotting in hell, who killed those six Christians.
Jack, what is the latest?
Charlie, 52 days.
It has now been 52 days that Audrey Hale has been rotting in hell.
And you know what's interesting?
When I bring that up, and I actually like to get your perspective on this as well, because when I bring that up, there are people that I get in my comments, Christians, who say, oh, Jack, there you go judging.
We can't know.
We can't know where Audrey Hale is.
We don't know.
Maybe there was a repentance.
There was something.
I said, she was firing at police officers in the commission of an act of, as Catholics, we would call mortal sin, attempting to murder police officers when she was killed.
So please explain to me that repentance.
I will say, Jack, admittedly, as a Catholic, you actually, the church does not make claims ever on eternity.
It's mostly Protestants.
So as you've been posting this, Jack, I've been curious, can you just tell, can you build that out a little bit?
Because typically, you know, Catholic Church dogma and orthodoxy does not make any authoritative claims on, you know, let's just say eternal destinations of people.
Well, we do because of sainthood.
So that's essentially what bestowing sainthood is all about, that you're conferring that that person, the church is coming out and saying, yes, this person is in heaven.
Of course, that is only done.
It's very rare.
It's seen as one of the highest honors that you could be given in the church, probably the highest.
But as far as this situation, when you look at the case here, the question is always, did this person repent of their sins before they went to meet their Maker?
In this case, we know.
And it's actually more closely tied to the doctrine of repentance rather than making that any question about destination because that's what it's all about in the Catholic Church.
Did you make a positive, full, actual atonement for your sins before you die?
And that doesn't mean with, For example, suicide is another case like that, where we believe that in suicide, it was some kind of unless there was mental illness involved that you're not really sure about, but if it was a direct act of a mortal sin, then no, that's no, there's no purgatory there.
You're done.
So, so then, Jack, super interesting element there.
We can keep exploring it.
We have Taylor Marshall next hour that I'll definitely get his take on it.
But let me, so, Jack, is it true that the school is now filing a claim or a motion to not have the manifesto released?
What is that all about?
Right.
Okay.
So, there's two pieces of news that we actually have out as in the last 24 hours on this.
And I think a lot of people have been, you know, just moving on to the next thing, saying, oh, well, you know, let's forget about that story.
There's something else.
There's a Bud Light commercial.
There's a Miller Light commercial.
And I'm guilty of this as well, of just following the news cycle.
It's kind of part of our business, right?
You want to tell people what the news is going to be, but we can't let these stories go because the left doesn't do this, Charlie.
The left is still talking about Charlottesville.
The left is still talking about January 6th.
The left is still talking about Russia Gate, even though we know that it's been completely debunked actually this week.
They'll still find some way to cling to it.
What do we know in the last 24 hours?
Yes, that the school Covenant Church School has filed a motion to block the release of the manifesto, and they're claiming so because they believe there could be a security risk to the school.
They're trying to block it on those sites.
So they filed a claim with the city.
Now, you've also seen the local police union, as well as the Tennessee Firearms Union, has also put in motions to release the manifesto, we're told at this point.
One of the other pieces of news that I've seen in the last 24 hours is actually a count up in nationalreview.com right now of a writer.
Apparently, his wife actually worked at the school.
One of the things that we're being told in this account, which is he goes through the theology of it, he goes through forgiveness, the question of should we allow this transgression, should we allow hate, should we allow evil, but also points out that at one point during the shooting, Audrey Hale took a detour from shooting the children, turned and actually went up to the church itself where they have a stained glass window.
And if you remember the images of the church that we saw from this, it's actually a beautiful church they have right there.
It's a neo-Gothic construction.
It looks like something out of Europe from 500 years ago.
There was a stained glass picture of Adam, the first man, and Audrey Hale actually stood in front of it and then fired into that stained glass window of Adam, the first man.
So you really have to look at the symbology of that, a transgender, so a female who was trying to become a man, destroying the image of God's created first man.
And when I hear people say, oh, this wasn't an anti-Christian attack, when I look at something like that, you really can't escape the religious, the biological, so much symbology and iconography there.
Yeah, so it's a mystery.
I mean, what on earth would be the reason why the school would not want this manifesto to be public?
And is there any truth, Jack, to the claim that the school or other people were paid for the funeral of the killer?
Is that true?
I've seen some whispers about that.
So I've certainly seen reporting on that.
And Peachy Keenan on Twitter, who writes for American Mind out of Claremont, was reporting that.
This was also based on, as far as I know, personal reporting.
They knew somebody who was involved with the school that saying that, yes, they had actually paid for the memorial service.
I believe she also writes at the Federalist that just came out.
She contributed there.
But I haven't seen anyone else report on that publicly, that the school and the families, presumably, of the school actually paid for the funeral of this murderous psychopath.
Yeah, Jack, this is so interesting.
And then, so what then, in the one minute remaining, Jack, do you think we're going to get our eyes on the manifesto at any point?
I think it's going to come out, Charlie.
I think there's too much pressure on it at this point.
That's also incumbent on why on shows like this, on the Charlie Kirk show, what we do over at Human Events, we have to keep the pressure on because Republicans, Democrats, the transgender movement, they would love for this story to go away.
For some reason, I don't know why there aren't protests in the streets to be able to see this thing right now because the public has a right to know, Charlie.
Look, when it's one of these situations that involves someone they claim is on the right, or somebody followed Charlie Kirk or followed Jack Posovic, it's everywhere.
It's every headline, and then they mention it in the same breath as you for the rest of your life.
No, in this case, we absolutely need to have this thing out.
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So, Jack, several topics here I want to explore with you.
What is the latest with the hero from New York?
Which, by the way, Jack, I'd love your comment on this before we go any further.
Daniel Penny, which, by the way, is not to be confused with Perry, right, in Texas, Jack?
Am I getting that correct?
There's a Perry and a penny right now in kind of somewhat similar situations.
Exactly.
Okay, yeah, it's confusing.
It's kind of one of those simulation things.
But I will say, Charlie, I appreciate you bringing it up, and we've brought it up on Human Events as well.
Just because Penny is getting, the New York case is getting all the attention right now, we still cannot forget the fact that Daniel Perry in down in Austin, Texas, is currently in Texas jail because he was sentenced to 25 years because he used his firearm to defend himself against a crazed leftist who was pointing an AK-47 at him,
a Soros DA in blue of the blue, Austin, Texas, and an Austin jury decided to find him guilty, took an all-day trial, found him guilty.
Abbott says that he needs to wait for the parole board to get back with this ruling.
He says he's going to pardon him, but right now, Daniel Perry is behind bars.
Okay, so there is a Daniel Perry and Daniel Penny.
So Daniel, this is one thing that gives me hope, Jack.
The Wall Street Journal, which is not Breitbart, it's not Citizen Free Press.
It's not American Greatness, but it's necessary.
I read the journal every day.
Right?
The journal is an important institution, a little more neoliberal than I would like for my taste or flavor.
But honestly, God bless the journal for being in 10 million homes every day.
I think it does make the country more center-right than not.
Okay, but they're definitely more regime.
Would you agree, Jack?
They're not a radical, you know, right-wing paper like we are.
The Wall Street Journal has come out with an article, Free Daniel Penny.
This is extraordinary stuff, Jack.
This would not have happened five years ago, Jack, to have the Wall Street Journal coming out.
And look, this is what's amazing.
Let me read this paragraph.
At first glance, what happened in New York on the subway looked like a replay of George Floyd, the black Minneapolis man who, at the death of the hands of white police officers, that sparked 2020 riots.
AOC played her part accordingly, calling the death a public execution.
But we think Mr. Bragg is losing the narrative here.
Even before Neely's death, Bragg was notorious district attorney, goes on to say that this guy's a good Samaritan.
Mr. Penny knew nothing of the history.
He was trying to do the right thing.
Jack, I got to be honest.
I think that this is the righteous radicalization of center-right media.
What are your thoughts, Jack?
Charlie, what you're seeing here, and I know you've been talking about that on the show recently, is that there's this huge awakening right now of the center-right, and people in the center are now moving more to the right.
Of course, you're seeing this with Elon Musk, you're seeing this with others, that because the left has now gone so far and they're in so many positions of power, you're talking about Bragg, another Soros DA, right?
Because George Soros identified this arbitrage situation where he could come in and for pennies on the dollar enact this massive influence over our cities, a massive influence over our society by simply putting in these prosecutors that decided to completely throw out the rule of law and the norms that have held our society together here in the West for thousands of years in our civilization.
They've just decided to use that as their own plaything, which is something that the founders never believed that this would happen.
Now, of course, you are seeing a massive backlash to this.
The one, I believe her name is Kim Gardner out in St. Louis.
She just resigned as she was under investigation.
They were about to remove her.
I hear she's in nursing school right now, which actually horrifies me.
I hope that they never put her anywhere near a patient involved with health.
And you're also seeing, Charlie, a shift, I think, that will bear out politically going into the 2024 election because everything that goes on right now has to be viewed through that lens.
That the country is now getting a full-on taste of the far-left wokus government under Joe Biden.
I think that's right.
And they don't like it.
And Jack, I also think the credit is to Bannon and to you and to this program.
We have changed narratives early.
I mean, think about it, Jack.
If we would have just been a little bit vanilla, no, we came in hard for Daniel Penny, right?
We came in hard and we define the narrative and then we create, we move the Overton window.
Real Estate Scams Explained00:10:39
And I just have to say, the Overton window is one of the most important communication analytical explanations and tools.
I've explained it many times in this program.
I'm happy to again.
We're out of time here, Jack, but the Wall Street Journal comes in.
This would not have happened five years ago.
Five years ago, the Wall Street Journal would have been afraid of being called a racist because a white guy put a black guy in a chokehold, despite the black guy being a schizophrenic, multi-repeated criminal maniac and disturbing the peace on a subway.
This is a good sign, everybody.
This is a good sign.
Jack, thanks so much.
Talk to you soon.
Appreciate it, Charlie.
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Joining us now is Darren Beattie from Revolver.news, website I visit every single day.
This is a very interesting story.
Exclusive, the headline is the American dream has become the American scam, and these five foreign real estate options prove it.
Darren, what do you mean by this?
Tell us about it.
Well, this is kind of an interesting exclusive in the same vein as something we did that was a kind of surprising hit, or if you can't say hit, it certainly became very popular and generated a lot of discussion, which is a piece that actually looked at American subways and compared those to the subways and the rail systems in various cities in the world,
not just places that we'd expect to have clean and well-functioning rails, but all sorts of places.
In fact, one of the kind of darkly ironic things we discovered in this is that North Korea actually has cleaner subways than New York City.
But I guess, you know, we get the dystopia, we get the tyranny of North Korea.
We don't even get the clean subway.
So this is in the same vein as this.
And I think it's important for a lot of people to understand just how much the standard of living is collapsing in America.
And of course, one of the best barometers for that is real estate.
Where can you live?
Where can you buy a house?
Where can you buy a place?
And what do you get for it?
And I think a lot of Americans, especially people the millennial age and older, are stuck in this outdated software kind of imprinted in the 90s when America was the place to be.
We were the best.
Whenever you traveled overseas as an American in the 90s, you were the rock star.
Everyone wanted to go to America.
That's where the cutting edge was.
That's where the best technology was.
That's where you had to be.
Now it's anything but.
I'm hearing countless stories of Americans traveling overseas to Mexico City, for example.
I mean, did you see that story where there's over 30,000 Americans that have moved to Mexico City in the last year and a half?
It's amazing.
And it's not just Mexico City.
It's all over the world.
It's Portugal.
It's Central America.
It's if you want an ultra technologically advanced place, you can go to these sort of middleman cities like Dubai, Singapore, that are, you know, seem like they should be a half a century into the future compared to the United States.
Then there's also the issue of affordability.
You know, before getting into these interesting real estate options overseas, in this specific piece, we show just how much people are getting scammed, you know, having to pay a million dollars for a meh-type property in Nashville, Tennessee.
People in America don't understand just how much you're getting ripped off and scammed.
You're living in San Francisco now, you're paying prices that could easily get you one, if not two or three palaces in other well-developed countries.
And instead, you're paying for a coffin-like apartment.
That's right, um, just by sidewalks where you have homeless people defecating in the streets, and you're lucky to be able to walk across the block without getting mugged or raped.
This is the condition the country is really fallen into.
And the reason I publish a piece like this, which is very provocative but interesting and true, is that it's really important that we not lose sight of how far things have gone.
Because if we start to think of the present state of America as the new normal, we won't have any idea of demanding anything better.
So, as uncomfortable as it is, as difficult a pill as it is to swallow, that in so many key metrics, America is no longer a first world country, we need to swallow that pill.
One, just to have a more worldly perspective on how things actually are.
But secondly, we need to understand and work with that reality in order to improve.
And if you have money in America, you can kind of insulate yourself from some of this, right?
I mean, you can kind of still get a four to five to six to eight million dollar home and live a nice life.
But you look at this article, you know, Revolver.news, you have this picture of a shack, and I don't mean that in a pejorative way, okay?
But it's not, I wouldn't say this is an overly beautiful home.
It's a starter home.
Let's put it that way.
Let's be nice.
Is that right, Darren?
Okay, starter home.
Fair to say, diplomatic.
Yeah, I'm being diplomatic.
It's three-bedroom, two-bath, 2,600 square feet for $700,000, Darren, in Nashville, Tennessee.
$700,000.
And so there's a couple, not everyone.
I don't necessarily support moving to Lispin or, you know, moving to Mexico City.
I'm an American.
I'm here to stay.
I still think this country has so much left to offer.
But you're right, Darren.
The real estate component is very interesting for you to pinpoint because where you live, it becomes the way the American project has worked post-World War II is that has kind of become your bank account, right?
You put more money into your house than anything else.
You see the values go up.
But Darren, most young people are unable to enter the housing market.
I mean, we see this with our employees.
We see this with our students.
They're 28, 29 years old, 31, 32, 35, 36.
They're like, I can't afford a down payment.
I mean, I can't get into this.
You look in Scottsdale to find anything that is, you know, pretty good in Scottsdale.
It's five, six, seven, eight hundred thousand.
So, Darren, what does this mean then?
Does this create cynicism?
Does this create revolutionary socialist fervor?
Is it a generation of renters?
What does this mean?
I mean, you make a great point about real estate, and that's always been a key complaint in terms of standard of living, basic sort of metrics for adulthood and so forth.
And that's a special issue.
But it's not just real estate.
There are issues associated with real estate, but it's about quality of life.
It's about criminality in the cities themselves.
It's about having a clean and safe and well-functioning public transportation system.
One really critical part of the collapse of the standard of living in the United States is the fact that public civic spaces are totally destroyed.
And public transportation, I think, is probably the most conspicuous, but not the only example of that.
So you just get, and so again, it's not necessarily about, oh, moving to Lisbon, moving here or there, but it's so important, I think, for Americans to understand that it doesn't have to be like this.
It shouldn't have to be like this.
And you can get affordable places.
in Portugal that are clean, that are safe, that are in the city, that have great, you know, and healthy food.
And all of this is at an affordable price.
You ask, why the hell can't we have this in our Americans?
Why can't we have a clean and functioning subway system in our cities?
Why do you have to pay $700,000 for what you diplomatically call the starter home, but for what people in Portugal, which is not typically known as a first world country, what people in Portugal would describe as probably a shack.
How have Americans gotten scammed so hard?
And most of them don't even know it because again, a lot of the older Americans, myself included, I'm a millennial, older millennial.
I traveled a lot in the 90s all over the world.
And whenever you step set foot, Southeast Asia, any of these places in the world, you were treated like a rockstar.
America was the place to be.
Now there are many cities in Southeast Asia that are far better, far more advanced than most American cities.
And that's just the reality that we're in right now.
And like I said, we can decide not to swallow that pill and still pretend like America is this preeminent first world, beautiful society like it was as early, you know, as recently as the 90s.
Or we can start to acknowledge, man, we still maintain those key metrics of global hegemony.
As I pointed out, the dollar is still strong.
FBI Involvement Possibility00:06:37
We still have a very strong military.
We have a lot of key features that you need to be a global superpower.
But in terms of the standard of living for an average citizen, that has absolutely cratered even relative to other countries that we would typically consider to be less developed than our own.
Darren, tell us about this tweet here.
FBI revoked an agent's clearance for sharing one of your articles.
Tell us about it.
Absolutely.
Well, if people don't know, there's a lot of things happening with the weaponization committee, a lot of very interesting hearings, and a lot of really disgraceful stories surrounding the persecution of FBI whistleblowers into the misconduct in that agency.
And just one story, which I found absolutely remarkable, is that there's one particular agent who is decorated hero, military veteran, did very well in the FBI.
And he wasn't even endorsing.
He was simply sharing a revolver news article, which is your audience probably knows, as skeptical regarding the official story.
It suggests possibility of federal involvement.
And this agent simply shared it.
And so this FBI agent wasn't necessarily endorsing the revolver thesis.
He simply shared the article and said, this is potentially important information.
This is for your awareness because the field agencies within the FBI were receiving a ton of political pressure from the Washington office to just go scorched earth on anyone remotely associated with January 6th.
And so this guy said, look, this pressure is weird in light of this article suggesting federal involvement.
There are a lot of other things that have come out in the whistleblower hearings, including the fact that the feds won't release a lot of footage because they were worried that it would reveal confidential informants and sources and so forth.
But the bird's eye view, just the reality that simply sharing a revolver news article on January 6th was considered to be an act of hostility to the United States that justified revocation of this decorated veteran and FBI agent security clearance is pretty remarkable.
And it really kind of shows you where we are today: yes, we do have a lot of good people in the FBI, but they're being weeded out.
They're people who want to know the truth or reading the truth.
But if you share it, they'll take away your clearance and make your life absolutely miserable.
It's remarkable.
Darren, you probably would have been invited on Tucker Carlson's program to discuss this and more.
Tucker is kind of in media purgatory right now.
Where do you hear?
What are you seeing?
What have we learned now a couple weeks post Tucker's forcible removal from the most popular cable television show probably ever?
Well, it remains to be seen what his next move is.
I'm sure it will be big.
I thought the Twitter announcement was interesting, and I suspect we'll have even more interesting things to come out in the near to medium term future.
But what's perfectly clear is just how much of a critical asset he was.
Fox News is cratering.
You know, they're reshuffling their lineup in a desperate attempt to recover some eyeballs.
But they made a big gamble.
They were saying the thinking at the corporate level was as big as Tucker is, he's just the talent and he's interchangeable.
He's dispensable.
I think they're learning that he was indispensable because his voice was unique within the American national media landscape.
That's why he was indispensable because he spoke for so many people who simply wouldn't have access to this information, these kinds of truths, these kinds of stories, these types of angles.
He was unique in the media.
And so you can't replace something that's unique.
The question is, why doesn't anybody copy him?
And well, he's a great television personality.
He's very likable.
He's very good on screen.
But I think another reason is people just don't want to take the incoming that you have to endure when you step outside of the play pin and cover the types of stories that he, in many cases, uniquely was willing to cover.
And I think, and I remain extremely grateful to him for amplifying our coverage of January 6th and other things, which wouldn't have received the type of kind of national attention that it got had it not been for his courageous amplification.
So about a minute remaining, do you think we're going to start to see a greater trend away from corporate media towards independent media because of this?
You know, that's very complicated and it's hard to say.
I think in a certain respect, yes.
But I'm perhaps in the minority amongst commentators.
I still, and I hate that this is the case.
I think there's still a magic to TV and that can't quite be replaced by alternative, the digital media.
You can have tons of viewers in digital media.
You can be Joe Rogan, but even Joe Rogan is missing that special sense of legitimacy, the magic, the imprimatur of being on mainstream cable news.
Maybe that will change in the next 10, 20 years, but I think people are kind of projecting wishful thinking when they predict, oh, it's totally over now.
The reality is there's still a special magic about cable news, and that magic was a really important force multiplier for the incredible success that Tucker had.
And so I think that's simply a reality.
And it's not a bad thing.
It's simply we need to take this into account when configuring next steps.
How can we reproduce that magic or somehow co-opt it?
Gotta run.
Darren, thank you so much.
Everyone, check out Revolver.news.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thanks so much for listening.
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