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The CIA Conspiracy
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| Mark from Maine. | |
| I love Maine, by the way. | |
| It's a great state. | |
| Really good people. | |
| Love Maine. | |
| Spend some time there every summer. | |
| Mark says, Charlie, I'm furious. | |
| I'm uncontrollably mad about the latest John Solomon story. | |
| What is your reaction? | |
| Can you please talk about this? | |
| Yeah, I actually did mean to talk about it. | |
| This is very important. | |
| So John Solomon, who's a great reporter from justthenews.com, has obtained an email. | |
| John Solomon has obtained an email all around the campaign, which in itself was disinformation. | |
| That's what's so ironic about all this. | |
| The campaign to suppress the laptop was itself disinformation when they were trying to call the story around the Hunter Biden laptop disinformation. | |
| A damning email obtained by John Solomon shows that former acting CIA director Mike Morrell asked Obama-era CIA director John Brennan. | |
| Remember John Brennan? | |
| Bad guy. | |
| If he could add his name to the infamous letter signed by 51 intelligence agents, officials expressly to help the Biden campaign in the email was said, quote, trying to give the campaign during the debate on Thursday a talking point to push back on Trump on this issue. | |
| Now, I'm going to play this piece of Solomon tape and then I'm going to play the tape of the debate because it's shot and chaser like you wouldn't believe. | |
| It's one after the other. | |
| So I want to make sure we have all the tapes lined up for that. | |
| But this did not just impact the debate. | |
| This Politico story that was synthetic, that was artificial, that was AstroTurf, was also used for social media censorship. | |
| My Twitter account, I lost access to my Twitter account because I talked about the laptop. | |
| And Twitter said, well, according to Politico, this was Russian disinformation. | |
| Now, should I say Politico's credit? | |
| No. | |
| But they actually did not even read the Politico article. | |
| Politico was even careful enough to, can we get the actual Politico article here? | |
| Politico said that the 51 intelligence agents think that this is a tactic that looks like Russian disinformation. | |
| Therefore, it might be. | |
| They were just, they were implying that it's Russian disinformation. | |
| But so here's what's amazing. | |
| You read the political story, which, by the way, one of the great disservices in journalism is this politico story. | |
| They've never apologized or corrected. | |
| More than 50 former Intel officials signed a letter casting doubt on the providence of a New York Post story. | |
| And here's what they say. | |
| It's amazing. | |
| Saying it has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation. | |
| They didn't say that was Russian information, but it has the classic earmarks of a Russian disinformation operation. | |
| Now, we were ranting on our show at the time. | |
| We were a new show, by the way, at the time. | |
| You know that we were only a couple weeks into it. | |
| The Charlie Kirk show is only a couple weeks old on radio. | |
| We were about two years old, two and a half years old on podcast. | |
| And so we were still new. | |
| I remember being on air and we were like, oh, this is totally coordinated. | |
| This is centralized. | |
| And we didn't have the goods to prove it. | |
| But this is just like the Time magazine Molly Ball article, the secret shadow campaign, the shadow campaign that saved, saved the 2020 election. | |
| This was not the Chinese Communist Party. | |
| This was not the Venezuelans. | |
| This was not Kim Jong-un. | |
| Who needs the Kremlin when your own government spreads disinformation to impact an election? | |
| I cannot express to you the treason that this is. | |
| They use their intelligence credibility. | |
| They used their titles. | |
| They used their stature. | |
| They used their own positions to intentionally interfere with an election. | |
| That very well, this information could have been decisive. | |
| Poll after poll after poll shows that if this information would have allowed to go into the zeitgeist the same way Hillary Clinton emails went into the zeitgeist in 2016 election, Joe Biden might not have been president. | |
| They had 2020 planned perfectly, in their own opinion. | |
| Mail-in ballots, Zuckerbergs, lockdowns, go after Trump, overplay the COVID deaths with those ridiculous scoreboard of COVID deaths on CNN. | |
| Remember that? | |
| The COVID death scoreboard? | |
| It magically went away as soon as Trump went out of office. | |
| The nonstop, the COVID porn, if you will, mom and dad dying and grandma dying and there's no hope in sight. | |
| It was all a game. | |
| It was all coordinated. | |
| Mark Elias holding weekly strategy sessions, Floyd Apalooza, the looting, the murder, the arson. | |
| They were trying to create a pressure valve, a make it stop, because defeating an incumbent is very hard. | |
| And Donald Trump was like right there despite all the nonsense and the signature verification issues and all that crap, all of it. | |
| But out of nowhere, it emerged, it emerged this problem. | |
| The crackhead, Hunter Biden, left a laptop in Delaware. | |
| It was putting all their plans into whack. | |
| All of Soros' money, Lorene Powell Jobs, Fauci, Rochelle Walensky, the serpent from within, all of the 2020 election with it, the civilization was all coming down to the wire. | |
| And then out of nowhere, this laptop emerges and it was a problem. | |
| It was a big problem. | |
| And they had to stifle it. | |
| So they called in every favor, Tony Blinken, Mike Morrell, and it made an impact. | |
| If this thing would have allowed to have its organic, just regular flow, if there would have been a regular, organic flow of information, even with all the nonsense, all the shenanigans, all the 2,000 mules, all of it, I think Donald Trump would have won. | |
| That's how big this story was. | |
| Because the contents of the laptop is what was really important. | |
| Okay, with all of that lead up, let's play John Solomon reporting on this. | |
| Very important. | |
| And then we'll play the shot and chaser. | |
| Please first play Cut 125. | |
| Just a short while ago, Jessic News obtained this email. | |
| This is a very important email. | |
| It comes from the former CIA director, Mike Murrell. | |
| Yes, the guy that organized that letter from the 51 intelligence professionals who tried to fake you into thinking that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation when it wasn't. | |
| It is between him and John Brennan, one of the signatories. | |
| This is just before the presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. | |
| Hunter Biden's laptop is flinging out there. | |
| This is what Mike Murrell, former CIA director, tells his successor, John Brennan, hey, sign this letter because I'm, quote, trying to give the campaign, particularly during the debate on Thursday, a talking point to push back on Trump on this issue. | |
| Let's put all the ballot issues aside. | |
| Let's just put Zuckerbucks aside. | |
| Let's pretend there was not a fraudulent ballot or a signature verification issue or any of that. | |
| I think even a Democrat and an honest Democrat, because some of these Democrats are so just so hypnotized. | |
| Do you understand why people think the 2020 election was stolen? | |
| I mean, how can you not see that email and then watch what I'm about to play for you and not say, you know what, I understand why people believe it's stolen? | |
| You might disagree, but to call these people insurrectionists, great lie perpetrators, you have now an email of former CIA chiefs saying, yes, I'm happy to sign my name to something I know is not true to help Joe Biden in a debate. | |
| I think this is a worthy cause. | |
| I think it's a worthy cause is what John Brennan says. | |
| And guess what? | |
| Shot and Chaser, Joe Biden reads his script. | |
| They gave him the talking point, Play Cut 126. | |
| There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what this he's accusing me of is a Russian plan. | |
| They have said that this has all the care. | |
| Four, five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage. | |
| Nobody believes it except his and his good friend, Rudy Gianni. | |
| Anybody that says, oh, Charlie, you really think that there's some sort of uniparty running our government? | |
| He just told you there is. | |
| You get five former CIA officials to sign a fraudulent letter. | |
| Yeah, there's a cabal. | |
| Heck yeah, man. | |
| Five former CIA heads from both parties. | |
| Don't let them smear you and call a conspiracy theorist. | |
| This is it. | |
| Joe Biden was like, oh, I mean, you're trying to tell me basically what Joe Biden was saying, like, even everybody agreed, five former CIA people. | |
| And now we have the goods. | |
| We have the email. | |
| They knew it was a lie and they needed to get rid of Donald Trump because he was an existential threat to the unconstitutional administrative state. | |
| This was the administrative state. | |
| When we talk about the fourth branch of government, we talk about all that. | |
| This is the administrative state. | |
| And yeah, I'm sorry, I'm going to keep on saying it over and over again. | |
| People say, well, Charlie, come to my events. | |
| Do you think the 2020 election was rigged? | |
| Heck yeah, I think it was rigged. | |
| Look at this. | |
| You have former CIA officials signing letters, use this censorship material on absolute lies. | |
| If that's not rigged, I don't know what is rigged. | |
| And I'm not even getting into the ballot. | |
| The ballot stuff is an infinite reservoir of treachery. | |
| This was a conspiracy, an actual conspiracy. | |
| People should go to jail. | |
| We should have perp walks. | |
| We should have security clearances revoked. | |
| We should have public humiliation, public humiliation of these cockroaches. | |
| I cannot tell you how evil it is what these people did. | |
| And they, you know what? | |
| It's the old Harry Reid thing. | |
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An American Government Plot
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| It worked, didn't it? | |
| We're dealing with evil people. | |
| I don't say it lightly. | |
| I don't like doing these kind of rants and stuff. | |
| These are not good people. | |
| These are the scum of the earth. | |
| These are vermin. | |
| And the media, they are protecting them at every corner. | |
| This is not just election interference. | |
| This is not just election tampering. | |
| This is election reconfiguration and a betrayal to the United States of America. | |
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| I mean, I just can't even tell you how, I mean, evil is an overused word, but it's accurate. | |
| It's just what these people have done, and they just get away with it. | |
| Harry Reid, scumbag. | |
| Every time I fly into Vegas now, you're now landing at the Harry Reid airport. | |
| It makes me nauseous. | |
| Makes me sick. | |
| Used to be called McCarran International. | |
| They've renamed it to Harry Reid. | |
| One of the most evil, again, I got to find another word, deceitful, treacherous, clandestine, Luciferian, whatever word you want to use, people. | |
| Treacherous. | |
| I got to have a list of synonyms for Harry, you know, just because I don't want to use the same word over and over again, but you're welcome to email me your descriptions. | |
| He was a criminal, outright. | |
| He designed the culinary union takeover of Clark County, Nevada. | |
| Beautiful state, great people, been taken over by just these absolute radicals. | |
| It's a shame. | |
| I still have hope for Nevada more than I do other states. | |
| That's a separate, that's a different topic for another time. | |
| Harry Reid on the Senate floor said Mitt Romney didn't pay his taxes. | |
| Pure Machiavellian lie. | |
| And this was spread all over the place. | |
| So Dana Bash from CNN says, hey, you know, this is not good. | |
| This might be McCarthyite. | |
| And if you look at Harry Reid, that's scumbag. | |
| He looks down and he kind of shrugs his shoulders and he smirks. | |
| It's because a body language tells you everything. | |
| This good for nothing scum rat looks down and he basically set the tone. | |
| He trained a legion of Democrats on the lack of morality or it's pure Machiavellianism. | |
| Who cares as long as we win? | |
| Just win, baby. | |
| Doesn't matter if you have your lie your way to the top. | |
| Play cut 128. | |
| This right here, this way of governing, this philosophy is everywhere in the Democrat Party. | |
| He just happened to say the quiet part out loud, play cut 128. | |
| No one would help me. | |
| They were afraid the Koch brothers would go after them. | |
| So I did it on my own. | |
| So no regrets about Mitt Romney, about the Koch brothers. | |
| Some people have even called it McCarthyite. | |
| Well, they call it whatever they want. | |
| Romney didn't win, did he? | |
| Romney didn't win, did he? | |
| And on the other hand, the other issue worked too. | |
| The Koch brothers are now the Woke brothers. | |
| Well, one of them's dead, but the other one, Charles, it might as well be Charles Woke. | |
| Fun and all sorts of SJW. | |
| It's not me. | |
| Just go to AmericanMind.com. | |
| It's called The New Coke. | |
| All about racial reconciliation and diversity and getting rid of talks on economic liberty because Harry Reid went after him hard. | |
| Chuck Hugh Schumer went after the Kokes hard, and they wanted to be liked. | |
| Here's a thought experiment. | |
| And I'm writing a new book that will come out near Christmas. | |
| And this is the question. | |
| Should we emulate the Harry Reid model? | |
| That's worthy of some reflection. | |
| Let's tie this all back, right? | |
| So Harry Reid says that. | |
| It worked. | |
| That's how they justified. | |
| Right now, John Brennan and all these people, they're looking at the story and they're smirking. | |
| They're like, well, it worked. | |
| We took back the government. | |
| We took back the government from Donald Trump. | |
| Joe Rogan weighed in on this. | |
| Play Cut 127. | |
| Like there was a lot of attention on Twitter during the election because of the Hunter Biden laptop story. | |
| The Neo-West too. | |
| Yeah, so you guys censored that as well? | |
| I mean, basically, the background here is the FBI, I think, basically came to us, some folks on our team, and was like, hey, just so you know, like, you should be on high alert. | |
| There was, we, we thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election. | |
| We have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump of that's similar to that. | |
| So just be vigilant. | |
| You say the distribution has decreased. | |
| It got shared. | |
| How does that work? | |
| It basically, the ranking in Newsfeed was a little bit less. | |
| So fewer people saw it than would have otherwise. | |
| So it definitely, by what percentage? | |
| I don't know off the top of my head, but it's meaningful. | |
| So there's Zuckerberg. | |
| I remember when I first saw this clip, I was in the hospital a couple of days after our baby was born. | |
| I was furious. | |
| We had the news on, and I was furious at Mark Zuckerberg and all this. | |
| What he's saying is, yeah, the FBI was making house visits. | |
| They're making house calls. | |
| The FBI was coming around and being like, hey, there might be a Russian plot. | |
| You need to suppress it. | |
| When in reality, it wasn't a Russian plot. | |
| It was an American government plot. | |
| It wasn't the Kremlin. | |
| It wasn't Putin. | |
| Who needs Putin when you got John Brennan? | |
| You know, they always say, oh, yeah, this group's a bunch of traitors. | |
| They're the traitors. | |
| They're the ones that broke their oath to the country, and they're not going to be held accountable. | |
| Not a single of them have lost their security clearance. | |
| They're all eating at the unlimited trough of fake money from the federal government and contracts. | |
| It is infuriating. | |
| Email us freedom at charliekirk.com. | |
| Lots of questions to get to here. | |
| Spend some time on that, but I believe it was warranted. | |
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| The 2020 election was not a fair fight, and they're smirking and they're saying, Well, we won and you lost. | |
| Is it time for us to think that way? | |
| That's an interesting question. | |
| I want to win. | |
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Vice News Decline
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| I want to get to Harry's question from Mississippi. | |
| Charlie, can you explain the downfall of Vice News? | |
| Any thoughts there? | |
| Yeah, so it's just been announced today that Vice News is actually going to be bought by George Soros. | |
| George Soros, of all people, is purchasing, that's right, Vice Media. | |
| Postmillennial.com is reporting bankrupt Vice Media to be acquired by Soros and Fortress Investment Groups. | |
| And so I'll riff on this for just a second. | |
| We're seeing BuzzFeed news go down. | |
| We're seeing a lot of these left-wing groups start to implode. | |
| We're seeing media change as we know it. | |
| But I think one of the most interesting parts of the Vice story is Vice used to be a legitimately interesting news organization. | |
| I remember I first became aware of Vice with some of their incredibly effective and boundary-pushing, gritty YouTube videos that were kind of pseudo-documentaries. | |
| They were honest. | |
| I remember a couple. | |
| In fact, one of the most powerful pieces of film I have ever seen on North Korea was produced by Vice News. | |
| Vice News embedded a camera and they went into North Korea. | |
| Vice News, I remember, went down to South America and exposed the drug cartels. | |
| It's pretty amazing. | |
| And they wouldn't do that now. | |
| So, Vice News started as very gritty, boundary-pushing, honest. | |
| And at one time, Vice News had a valuation between $4 to $5 billion. | |
| I remember Vice did documentaries about African cannibal warlords. | |
| It was just like the strangest but honest stories that you could imagine. | |
| They didn't just cover it, they went right into it. | |
| Anyway, that's when I first became aware of Vice News. | |
| It was like 2012, 2013, very big on YouTube internet culture at the time. | |
| And I remember telling our team, it wasn't a very big team at the time at Turning Point, like, wow, they're going to go somewhere. | |
| And they certainly looked like it. | |
| Four or five billion dollars raised. | |
| In fact, I did a couple of Vice News interviews. | |
| Vice Media actually covered one of our events. | |
| They never published any of the footage of it, which makes me, you know, makes you wonder. | |
| Producer Andrew remembers this. | |
| It was at Colorado State University in late January, early February 2018, five years ago. | |
| I don't know where that footage is, but they never aired it. | |
| Maybe it made it look good or whatever. | |
| They got sidetracked. | |
| And so, but Vice News raised all this money. | |
| And Vice decided to become boring because Vice became a victim of their own success. | |
| Now, granted, Vice had a lot of management problems, if I remember correctly. | |
| They were like the founder of Vice and or like the CEO or the co-partner, whatever. | |
| They had all this like sexual harassment stuff. | |
| So I'm sure that played a role. | |
| But Vice had a channel on HBO or they partnered with HBO for their nightly newscast, if I remember correctly. | |
| And it was called like, it was like news brought to you by Vice on HBO. | |
| And again, I don't get HBO. | |
| Oh, it went to Showtime. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| It was on Showtime. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| I don't get either of those channels. | |
| I only remember it when I was watching, I was in a hotel room and I was watching. | |
| I was like, oh, that's interesting. | |
| It's Vice. | |
| And it was, it started on HBO went to Showtime. | |
| Okay, I'm technically correct then. | |
| And it just got boring. | |
| It was like, oh, look at this evil Republican and Trump. | |
| And Trump really did break a lot of these people. | |
| Trump derangement syndrome. | |
| I never liked the term. | |
| I thought it was overly simplified, but it's extraordinarily accurate. | |
| I mean, Vice just stopped thinking for themselves. | |
| They stopped being interesting. | |
| They stopped being anything worth watching. | |
| And so now Vice went bankrupt from a $4 or $5 billion valuation. | |
| I mean, there's only so many ways that you can say that Southern Christians are the problem. | |
| I mean, it's just that that market is kind of saturated. | |
| All right. | |
| It's boring. | |
| And by the way, conservative media is ascendant. | |
| We're growing like crazy here on this show. | |
| We're very blessed and we're very thankful. | |
| Vice News, not the case. | |
| Matt Walsh's show is growing like wild. | |
| Steve Bannon's show going like clean. | |
| I mean, you see the truth tellers are growing like crazy. | |
| Vice has collapsed. | |
| Now, another story in media that I want to connect to this is: look, I don't really consume a lot of their content. | |
| I think some of their people are absolutely hilarious. | |
| They're a little bit too profane for me, quite honestly, at times, but I think largely they hit onto something of kind of that young 20-something. | |
| I kind of want to let a guy be a guy type mantra. | |
| Again, it's not really my shtick all the time, but I certainly, I mean, I have respect for creators. | |
| And Barstool for years has been very, very effective. | |
| And some of their stuff is outright hilarious. | |
| I think Dave Portnay is a legitimate talent. | |
| I find him to be very funny most of the time. | |
| Obviously, I have different politics in Midtimes, but he's anti-cancel culture, all that. | |
| You know, good for him. | |
| And I think they push back against the woke stuff. | |
| They do it in a very irreverent way. | |
| And they're largely talking about sports, but they talk about culture as well. | |
| Some of their content I find to be really awfully repulsive, like some of those female podcasts, not for me. | |
| But anyway, that's a separate issue. | |
| So, but Barstool sold part of their company recently. | |
| And Portnoy, to his credit, came out against a recent real ideological transformation at Barstool. | |
| Barstool is known as like the most anti-PC major media company, right? | |
| You can go there. | |
| You can say basically whatever you want, okay? | |
| So investors who own 40-plus brick and mortar casinos have come in and they've already started to kind of buttheads with Portnoy and all that. | |
| And at Barstool Sports, the place where you can be irreverent, you can say whatever you want, anti-PC, kind of a middle finger to the man. | |
| That's kind of the energy at Barstool. | |
| Well, they just fired one of their most popular hosts. | |
| I'm not aware of this guy. | |
| I've seen some of his videos. | |
| It seems a funny guy. | |
| I'm sure he's talented and it's hard not to be talented when you work in the competitive environment of Barstool. | |
| Obviously, he's got something to say. | |
| Ben Mintz, who said the N-word, but only while reciting a rap lyric on a live stream. | |
| Literally not saying it in a derogatory way, but saying it. | |
| So no one can explain the rules to me. | |
| I don't like the word. | |
| I don't think people should say it, period. | |
| I'm not defending it, but why is it that white people cannot say it in a rap lyric and black people can? | |
| Why does that rule exist? | |
| Why is there a carve out for a certain melanin content of skin to be able to say the word? | |
| Doesn't make sense to me. | |
| It's not like a, I'm not saying that we should, you know, die on this issue. | |
| It's not like civilizational altering. | |
| It's perplexing to me. | |
| No one can explain it to me while a race gets a certain word and another race doesn't get to say it. | |
| Why does a race get to say it? | |
| Oh, we reclaimed the word. | |
| It's like, yeah, it's kind of weak to me. | |
| It's very weak. | |
| Okay, but I'm not saying I think it absolutely can be derogatory and insulting and mean and awful and cruel. | |
| And if it's said in that way, then you should have to be held accountable to that or at least explain it, right? | |
| Again, I'm not big on policing speech. | |
| I'm actually largely trying to liberate speech. | |
| But reciting a rap lyric has now resulted in Ben Mintz's firing. | |
| Penn Entertainment, which acquired 36% of Barstool Sports from the Shernan Group for $163 million in early 2020, bought the remaining 64% for an additional $388 million in February 2021. | |
| They also own casinos. | |
| Portnay said that he trusts and respects Penn's CEO Jay Snowden's decision-making, but disagrees with the call to fire Mintz. | |
| Quote, Penn paid a lot of money for Barstool, and then they have to make the best decision to protect their business. | |
| I trust and respect Jay Snowden, and then he makes what he thinks the right move. | |
| Elgin Asper doesn't mean I'll always agree. | |
| And I don't think I don't have to think or deal with. | |
| Look, I mean, for those of you that are supporters of Barstool and you guys view their content, I encourage you to go elsewhere. | |
| This is a company that's going to go the way of vice. | |
| They're not standing on principle. | |
| They're not standing strong. | |
| This is a bad move, and it's against everything that made that company popular. | |
| Again, not exactly my genre of content. | |
| I see their stuff every once in a while. | |
| Hard not to laugh, especially, I think, Portnoy's relentless criticism of Roger Goodell is one of the great internet themes I've ever seen because Roger Goodell should be in Gitmo. | |
| But I'm kidding. | |
| I'm kidding. | |
| I'm kidding. | |
| Media matters. | |
| He's worse NFL commissioner by far and super corrupt. | |
| He's paid like $32 million. | |
| Give me a break. | |
| And look, the Barstool bros, they always fail us on social issues. | |
| But again, that's not their thing. | |
| Okay. | |
| I kind of grade on a curve here. | |
| I'm more concerned that the ethos of Barstool, like all things, falls apart when the woke mind virus starts to take over. | |
| And for a company that was always about free speech and speaking your mind, to fire somebody for reciting a rap lyric, it's cowardly. | |
| It's outrageous. | |
| It's wrong. | |
| And this is why we lose. | |
| And I don't think that company should be rewarded any longer. | |
| I think Portnoy agrees, by the way. | |
| Portnoy even tweeted out. | |
| He said, for those of you who say that Barstool is dead, I tried to warn them. | |
| And it should be largely, you should reconsider all of your content consumption. | |
| I don't think our audience has a lot of overlap with Barstool. | |
| But if there is, I can encourage you to reconsider. | |
| Okay. | |
| Another email here. | |
| And by the way, a talent like Portnoy, absent, non-competes and stuff, can go create a new company. | |
| The guy's got legitimate. | |
| He's a five-star talent. | |
| He's hilarious. | |
| He gets the internet really well. | |
| In fact, he claims he created the internet. | |
| Honestly, with what he's built, it's hard to disagree. | |
| Okay, so let's go to this here. | |
| Okay, so this is, I got a lot of questions. | |
| I got a lot of questions on this. | |
| So I want to try to find the exact wording here. | |
| So from Doug, Charlie, I recently saw a video of Dennis Prager supports watching pornography. | |
| Here's the documentation. | |
| They were upset I had Dennis on the show, and they said all these mean and nasty things about Dennis Prager. | |
| Okay, so I'm going to play the piece of tape here. | |
| I disagree with Dennis on this, and I'm going to give you my stance on pornography and talk about the Utah law as well. | |
| We have about two minutes remaining here, so I'm going to do my best and then we'll kind of fill this in the best I can. | |
| So Dennis Prager has been talking about male sexuality for many years. | |
| He has a very, very good lecture on it that he gave in the early 1990s. | |
| Most of it is really, really good. | |
| And then he talks about pornography where I have some disagreements. | |
| In fact, I've voiced my disagreements with him on this. | |
| And I said, Dennis, I don't know if you're really pornography of today, I don't think is what you think it was back then. | |
| And there's some big changes. | |
| And so anyway, Dennis has a saying, which has now gone viral, which is that pornography is not ideal. | |
| But if it is used as a way to, as an excuse instead of adultery, it is acceptable. | |
| Okay. | |
| So in the context of marriage, I have several problems with this. | |
| The first problem is I think it really underestimates the absolute mind poison that is pornography. | |
| Okay. | |
| Any young man, including myself, has, unless they're lying to you, has had some struggle with pornography. | |
| Praise God, I've gotten through that. | |
| And I've spoken openly about that when we had the porn actor come on the program. | |
| It's not something to be messed with or to be trivialized. | |
| It is incredibly dangerous to young men. | |
| And I'm going to talk, I'm actually going to recommend this book now. | |
| I'll recommend it twice. | |
| Any parent out there, I encourage you guys to please go read the book, Your Brain on Porn. | |
| And it's by Gary Wilson. | |
| And again, it changes your brain from being able to have regular dopaminergic receptors to be able to have proper relationships. | |
| Again, it's by Gary Wilson. | |
| And anything that trivializes the downside of a mass contagion, I think is wrong. | |
| And I'm not trying to be morally sanctimonious about it. | |
| Almost any man in modern culture has struggled with it. | |
| So it is a huge problem. | |
| 30% of all data transferred online is porn, is pornography. | |
| And I have a lot of sympathy, by the way, with people struggling with it. | |
| And that's what I think our tone needs to be is like, hey, this is a problem. | |
| This is a real addiction. | |
| This is something damaging your life. | |
| Let's free you from that. | |
| Let's not try to create moral excuses or preconditions that could keep you addicted and potentially suffering from it. | |
| Welcome back, everybody. | |
| So on this here, so just to understand the distinction here, though, you know, from a Jewish perspective, all that matters is behavior. | |
| The Christians believe both behavior and intentions matter. | |
| And I see Dennis's perspective on this, but intentions can matter a lot. | |
| And they matter a lot for sentencing, for example, of murder. | |
| Is it first-degree murder? | |
| Is it manslaughter? | |
| Is it sexual? | |
| Intentions do have some calculation, and they should have some calculation. | |
| It doesn't matter, though, if you're trying to judge a major evil. | |
| For example, when Thomas was competing against males, it doesn't matter if she meant or he meant well, because woman doesn't matter. | |
| Okay, so I want to play a piece of tape here. | |
| Let's play cut 130. | |
| This is Prager's debate back and forth. | |
| And again, I have immense respect for Dennis on this. | |
| I think there is an understandable sensitivity, because this has gone viral a lot of people around the pornography issue. | |
| And I think that's actually generally a good thing. | |
| I don't think the conservative movement is at our best when we're just kind of downplay the negative impacts of pornography. | |
| And it has fundamentally changed. | |
| It has significantly changed over the last couple of decades. | |
| Play cut 130. | |
| In an ideal marriage, would my father not have subscribed to Playboy? | |
| I'll be prepared to say yes, however. | |
| Good at you. | |
| Good job. | |
| Yes. | |
| Yeah, but it doesn't gain you as much as you think because I saw their relationship for seven years. | |
| I didn't see it for 72 years, obviously, but I saw it for the bulk of their life. | |
| And he's not the respect with which he treats her. | |
| I'm sure he did. | |
| I'm not making the claim that you have pure, pristine, holy marriage and haven of filth. | |
| I'm not saying that those are your only two. | |
| But if you're saying to the woman, better for him to look at porn than to commit adultery, then what I would say there is it might be less bad, all things being equal, but less bad doesn't make it good. | |
| And if adultery can be analogized to shooting your marriage in the head, I would say pornography is the slow poisoning of it, and that there's a great deal of research that would go to back that up. | |
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| And absent that particular debate, I do think it's important that we warn young men and women of the damaging effects of it. | |
| It is the drug of choice for young adolescents, and parents are completely ill-equipped with understanding the issue or confronting the issue. | |
| Utah has passed a law where porn hub has said they're no longer going to have operations in the state of Utah. | |
| I actually think that's a good thing. | |
| I think the harder it is to access pornography, the better the society. | |
| And the more barriers we put into that, I think it's actually important. | |
| Due to increased identity verification, they weren't even talking about outlawing it or banning it. | |
| Pornhub voluntarily stopped all operations. | |
| Okay, enough of that. | |
| Let's get to another question here. | |
| Let's go to... | |
| Let's go to this one here. | |
| Somebody says, hey, Charlie, did you see the 12-year-old boy speaking to the school board after being kicked out of school for wearing there are only two genders shirt? | |
| What are your thoughts on this? | |
| I did see it, Play Cut 27. | |
| There are only two genders. | |
| Nothing harmful, nothing threatening. | |
| Just a statement I believe to be a fact. | |
| I have been told that my shirt was targeting a protected class. | |
| Who is this protected class? | |
| Are their feelings more important than my rights? | |
| I don't complain when I see pride flags and diversity posters hung throughout the school. | |
| Do you know why? | |
| Because others have a right to their beliefs just as I do. | |
| Why do the rules apply to one yet not another? | |
| I feel like these adults were telling me that it wasn't okay for me to have an opposing view. | |
| Their arguments were weak. | |
| It's beautifully said. | |
| You know, it's interesting. | |
| They say we're the diverse people, but the second you wear a t-shirt that they might disagree with, or we're the people for intellectual diversity or tolerance, they kick you out categorically and completely. | |
| Young man is very smart. | |
| We need more young people. | |
| We're trying to do this at Turning Point Yosei to go challenge authority and challenge irrational, tyrannical power. | |
| Thanks so much for listening, everybody. | |
| Email us or thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. | |
| Thanks so much for listening, and God bless. | |
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