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May 7, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Maintaining Your Faith While Culture Crumbles — LIVE with Barry Meguiar

At the latest Freedom Night at Dream City Church, Charlie sits down with longtime friend, author, and TV host Barry Meguiar to discuss his journey to joy, how to stay strong in your faith, and not losing heart as society caves to the woke mob. They take audience questions, and it’s a conversation you don’t want to miss.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Tucker Carlson's Spiritual Argument 00:12:23
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Buckle up, everybody.
Here we go.
Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
I want to thank Charlie.
He's an incredible guy.
His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
That's why we are here.
Thank you, everybody.
Please take a seat.
Thank you.
We have a great guest tonight, so I'm not going to take much time.
But I do have to address something that I've received a lot of questions about that is an ongoing issue.
You know, we've been doing this now for two years.
So praise God.
Has anyone attended every single one?
Wow, I have.
So there you go.
And very few of us.
So it's been a pretty amazing thing.
If you ever want to go back and re-watch all of these, I encourage you to do so.
There's been some amazing guests over the last couple of years and just awesome knowledge and wisdom shared.
And thanks to Dream City for allowing this platform to happen.
So for years, it's important we recognize something has changed in the last couple weeks, not just the last couple of weeks.
So in January, James O'Keefe was still a Project Veritas.
Donald Trump was not yet indicted, and Tucker Carlson still had a television program.
And those three things have changed.
And I'm going to talk about the Tucker one in particular because I'm receiving a lot of questions about that.
And if you saw my show today, I was pretty fired up about it.
And so if you look at America as something that is worthy of protection, let's use something we're all very familiar with after the last couple of years.
Let's just say it's an immune system.
What are the elements that prevent bacterial infection or viral infection?
Truth and justice.
And you need truth and you need justice.
That is what creates society's antibodies, if you will.
Truth tellers are necessary to be able to check the massive lies in your society.
And it's been remarkable in the last week and a half how many messages I've received, but also just seeing more broadly how important one man's cable television program was to so many of you.
And I have not seen that sort of, let's just say, response to any sort of medium since the great Rush Limbaugh passed away.
And in some ways, Tucker Carlson was almost the unofficial handing of the baton from Rush to Tucker.
And so Tucker Carlson was fired.
And he told us why he was fired if you speak Tucker's language, which I'm going to show you the video and I'll tell you how to interpret it.
Because he put out this video on Twitter that to the outsider or to the untrained eye, you're like, okay, this is just a generic video.
I happen to know Tucker rather well, and he was communicating exactly what happened to you.
See, Tucker was on air for seven years, and it was a remarkable thing, right?
Tucker was able to challenge some of the biggest lies in our society.
They came after him.
They intimidated him.
In fact, Tucker was willing to say that we were in a spiritual war on cable television.
That is very, very hard to hear to find a cable television host say, you know, this is just diabolical.
But Tucker was not just effective and persuasive.
Let's be honest, Tucker was willing to use his prime time television program to talk about topics that you cared about, but the regime did not want you to talk about.
The open border, adverse events to a vaccine.
Why are we involved in this proxy war in eastern Ukraine?
Asking questions about that.
January 6th tapes.
You might agree or disagree on these topics, but he certainly made it interesting and he was darn effective at it.
And one of the things we're trying to do by having this gathering is trying to tell you that you need to speak the truth in your life in every circumstance, especially in our community.
And I think we could all take really a lesson from Tucker is he did this night after night in an incredibly effective way.
And he's not done.
You've not heard the last of Tucker Carlson.
Let me tell you.
You've not heard the last of Tucker Carlson.
Let me just tell you.
It's a total mess right now.
They're trying to take him out, and there's so many leaks and awful things.
Let me just ask, I'm just very curious.
How many of you have stopped watching Fox News?
Raise your hands after this?
Wow.
That's pretty decisive, right?
Wow.
I wonder why all of a sudden they went from 3.5 million viewers and now 1.3 million people.
And I just think people have, I don't know, it's pretty amazing.
And the reasons they gave is terrible.
So I want to play this piece of tape.
You've probably seen it.
It has 80 million views of Tucker putting it on Twitter.
But the reason I think it's very fitting tonight, not just because all of you are immensely curious in it, is that Tucker actually makes one of the most, let's just say, articulate spiritual arguments that you'll hear if you listen to it carefully enough.
He walks through the beginning, this first 17 seconds is just kind of that he's basically telling you he's having fun despite all the nonsense because Tucker is a lighthearted guy.
Then he goes into telling you in code, this is why I got fired, because the people in charge of my network were angry I challenged neoliberalism.
And then he calls them all a bunch of liars without saying it, because he's still technically an employee of Fox.
He was not fired, by the way.
His show is canceled.
It's very important.
But then at the end, he makes this unbelievably triumphant, beautiful, in the only way Tucker can.
He basically says that true things ultimately prevail.
That is Christianity, everybody.
That is the promise of Christ.
And if you know Tucker well, you could see, because some people are accusing him, oh, he's reading.
Oh, if Tucker's reading it, that means he wrote it.
And Tucker does not write anything by mistake.
He was a 30-year magazine writer, and he's a darn talented writer, let me tell you.
One of the most gifted writers of a generation.
So he prayed over and poured over every single word of this.
So I want you to listen carefully.
And at the end, he makes an argument.
The iron law of the universe, this could be best summarized as John 1.
In the beginning was the logos, was the word, that there's a natural harmony of the cosmos.
What Tucker is saying without saying it is, hey, we're in a spiritual war, and truth will always win.
With that kind of backdrop, for some of you, this will be the second or third time watching this video.
For some of you, the first time watching this, listen to Tucker Carlson speak in code of what actually happened to him in the last couple weeks.
Enjoy.
Good evening.
It's Tucker Carlson.
One of the first things you realize when you step outside the noise for a few days is how many genuinely nice people there are in this country, kind and decent people, people who really care about what's true, and a bunch of hilarious people, also.
A lot of those.
It's got to be the majority of the population, even now.
So that's hurting.
The other thing you notice when you take a little time off is how unbelievably stupid most of the debates you see on television are.
They're completely irrelevant.
They mean nothing.
In five years, we won't even remember that we had them.
Trust me, as someone who's participated.
And yet, at the same time, and this is the amazing thing, the undeniably big topics, the ones that will define our future, get virtually no discussion at all.
War, civil liberties, emerging science, demographic change, corporate power, natural resources.
When was the last time you heard a legitimate debate about any of those issues?
It's been a long time.
Debates like that are not permitted in American media.
Both political parties and their donors have reached consensus on what benefits them, and they actively collude to shut down any conversation about it.
Suddenly, the United States looks very much like a one-party state.
That's a depressing realization, but it's not permanent.
Our current orthodoxies won't last.
They're brain dead.
Nobody actually believes them.
Hardly anyone's life is improved by them.
This moment is too inherently ridiculous to continue, and so it won't.
The people in charge know this.
That's why they're hysterical and aggressive.
They're afraid.
They've given up persuasion.
They're resorting to force.
But it won't work.
When honest people say what's true calmly and without embarrassment, they become powerful.
At the same time, the liars who've been trying to silence them shrink and they become weaker.
That's the iron law of the universe.
True things prevail.
Where can you still find Americans saying true things?
There aren't many places left, but there are some, and that's enough.
As long as you can hear the words, there is hope.
See you soon.
Isn't that beautiful?
Especially from a spiritual perspective.
As long as you can hear the words, that is Christianity, the spoken truth.
In the beginning was the word, and the word became flesh.
And I have no idea how this entire thing is going to end up, except I can tell you, if Tucker wrote that, those last three words he put there intentionally, see you soon.
He's not done.
And I hope all of us remember this and make, let's just say, more enlightened media choices.
If you want to listen to our podcast, that's fine.
Here's my one recommendation.
Support independent media.
Support people that are pushing back on the consensus, that are doing reporting, people like Matt Walsh, people like Tim Poole, people like Steve Bannon, Real America's Voice or whatever, because he's right.
There are real issues in our country that have spiritual dynamics to it that are much more important than, oh, this side is good and that side is bad.
So I'm getting asked a lot of questions about the Tucker thing.
But the last thing I'll say is this.
I had a conversation with him a couple of days ago.
He's in great spirits.
He was wrong, but he's not acting like a victim.
In fact, I think the enemy is going to regret ever doing what they did to Tucker because he's more motivated than ever to make sure that our side wins.
With that, join me in welcoming our guest tonight, an amazing American.
Get on your feet.
He is someone who's going to reignite America.
He inspires me.
He's a hero of mine.
Barry Maguire, everybody, author of Ignite Your Life.
Barry, come on up here.
Sorry.
Take a seat, everybody.
Thank you.
Okay.
Well, Barry, welcome.
I want to say, having Barry here is a real blessing.
Usually, Barry's right up front, faking notes.
You know, you don't get invited to your own church.
You do know that.
I speak all over the country, but you're without honor at your own country.
We're breaking the rules.
I think that's actually in Luke: that it's you can't be a prophet in your own hometown, right?
Exactly.
Is that Nazareth Jesus was rejected?
There you go.
That's true.
Is that correct?
Yeah.
So we're now bucking the trend.
Barry is welcome in Nazareth at aka Phoenix.
So, Barry, I wish we had hours to go through this.
Sharing Faith Beyond Hometowns 00:14:47
I've known you for years.
And I just want to bring you.
You were 22 years old when I met you the first time at the Trump Hotel in D.C. I was naive enough to believe I could save the whole country.
I'm still working on that.
So thank you.
I'm not going to give up.
I'm not going to give up.
But, Barry, from the first time I met you, I saw something rare.
You were a joyful Christian.
Yes.
Yes.
There's so many angry Christians out there, which I think is one of the most awful things.
If you're an angry Christian, you're a bad ambassador for the promise and for the hope of the gospel, right?
But, Barry, I saw you in real time, so we got to know each other.
We saw each other at events, probably 100 events, right?
And from bellhops to waiters to waitresses to people that were serving us to random people, Barry would go up and say, Do you know the Lord?
And he would just love on people.
And it just poured out.
And those of you that know Barry know that this is not some just sort of shtick.
This is who he is.
Barry, tell your story and talk about your book, Ignite Your Life, and let's have some fun.
Well, you know, the story of joy is an interesting one because Karen and Karen can be up here with me.
Karen, I love you to death.
You're my life everywhere.
There she is right there.
We're working on 60 years of marriage in December.
Frankly, I think the Lord's coming before that.
We're not going to see it, but you know.
But, you know, I was born in a Christian home, and so a Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night, so, you know, all the stuff.
And the parents mentored me well, and so we got married.
And Karen did not have quite the same upwriting I did, but she was solid with me.
And we were volunteering for everything in the church.
And, you know, like during the week, we'd go out and knock on doors.
We were just doing everything we possibly could.
And we realized we didn't have joy.
And we said, how's that possible, God?
We're doing all we're trying to earn our way into heaven, like earn God's favor, which you can't do that, by the way.
He already loves you completely.
You can't get any more than completely.
But we were just trying to figure that out.
And we actually were having some times when we were kind of nipping at each other, right?
Like, this should not be right.
We should not be having these kinds of situations.
You're having joy.
Where's all this joy going to come from?
And so we started praying for joy.
We literally started praying every day, God, we want joy.
And we end up about maybe a month later or so.
And we went to a luncheon at our church, 50th anniversary luncheon.
They had Herb Ellingwood.
Herb was the legal affairs secretary for Ronald Reagan and then President Reagan after that.
And he was the speaker.
And I was assigned the seat next to him next to the podium.
And for an hour, I was wanting to hear about Reagan.
Do you really pray in his office?
He never mentioned Reagan.
I never thought of Reagan.
For an hour, he's told me story after story after story.
He was laughing.
He was crying about how he was sharing his faith at all these crazy places.
And last night, you don't believe what happened last night.
I walked away from that in tears.
And I said, I want what he has.
I want what he has.
I want that joy.
So, Karen and I talked about, we said, well, we had no idea that joy came from sharing faith.
Sharing faith is something we've been doing a good bit.
We'd gone to Bandsu Explosion class, but it was hard.
It was, you know, all the scripting and getting the points right.
And it was a difficult type of thing.
And here he's having fun.
He's not doing anything.
He's just loving on people.
So we talked about, he said, okay, we're going to start doing that.
So we started just loving on people and having the time of our lives doing it immediately.
Within, oh, I don't know, maybe three or four weeks.
We were laughing one day.
And I said to Karen, we have joy.
Never guessed it had anything to do with sharing the faith, which we don't want to do, right?
No one wants to share their faith.
So it was just amazing.
So that was 1973.
The next three years, we were sharing our faith to the point where just amazing things were happening in our lives every day.
It has for all these years, since 50 years of doing this, Karen and I.
And one day I was in my office.
I decided, God, you must be leading me into full-time ministry.
I can see where this is going.
It keeps getting stronger and stronger and stronger.
And I'd had a Jewish rep, I was back in New Jersey earlier that week, and it was snowing outside.
We got back in the car.
I turned the engine on.
He says, before you put in gear, I wonder if we can talk.
And I said, what about?
And he says, I'm heading for divorce.
I don't know what to do.
Would you pray for me?
Now, I had never sat a serious conversation with him about the Lord.
But you know what?
If you just love on people and let them know that you're a Christian, that you trust God, when they have a problem, they come.
They do.
And so we had a great time together.
I got there.
Okay, God, you're taking me in the next realm now.
People are actually asking for stuff without me even being out there in front of them on it, just doing it matter of factly.
So I prayed this most fervent prayer of my life.
Literally, I said, God, I want to be where you want me to be.
I don't care what it is.
My family business, I love it.
I'm the third generation leader of my business.
We were just starting into retail, just baby steps.
It was just getting going.
I was excited about that.
But more importantly, I wanted to serve God.
I just wanted to be close to God.
So I said, God, if you want me to leave, I'll leave.
But you do know that if I leave, the family business will fail.
There's no way else to lead it.
And that'd be the end of O'Guire Scarwax.
And I have two little girls if you know that as well.
But if you want me to leave, you'd almost have to speak to me in an audible voice, is what I said.
Okay?
Not 20 minutes later, a guy came into my office.
His name was Dave McNutt from my church.
I didn't know him, but I knew he's a missionary kid born in Africa, my same age.
He'd spoken from the platform a couple times.
We never exchanged a glance.
Here he is in my office.
And I said, Hi, Dave.
How are you doing?
I'm fine.
I was in the area.
I thought I'd ask you how you're doing.
How's life?
And so I started going down a path.
I made a sap decision.
He wasn't into cool cars and shiny paint finishes as a missionary kid.
So I started telling people and sharing my faith with.
And I joined that last story.
He said, Wow, God's given you a wonderful ministry here, hadn't he?
And I said, Wait a minute.
I mean, it's like Twilight's on.
I said, Why would you say that?
He says, Well, a pastor couldn't reach those people you're reaching, but as a businessman, you can.
And it's obvious that your business is your pulpit.
That was 1976.
It's obvious that your business is your pulpit.
Folks, wherever you are, that's your pulpit.
You know, that's your pulpit.
Take full advantage of it.
So I told him, I said, I just prayed this prayer not 20 minutes earlier.
He said, well, that explains it.
I said, explains what.
He said, I just dropped missionaries off of the Orange County airport.
I was driving up Red Hill, the closest main street to my office, and God spoke to me and said, Go see Barry Maguire.
And I said, I don't know this guy.
I see his name.
I recognize him in church, but I don't know what kind of business it is.
I'm going to make a fool out of myself.
But I walked in with, he said, actually, my throat was, my heart was beating in my throat.
I was so nervous that I didn't know what to say, but how's it going?
So that's that got us in the direction of sharing our faith.
And let me just do a little add-on.
24 years later, he calls me.
I haven't seen him for 24 years.
He went on to a different church.
And he said, I have a word for you from the Lord.
I didn't want to hear it.
I mean, you can't follow all the words from the Lord.
You get a few of those.
But he sat me down.
He said, Have you heard this book, The Prayer of Jabez?
I'd not heard of it yet because it just come out.
He said, Well, I hadn't heard of it either.
I think three months later, everybody we knew in the Christian world read Prayer Jabez, but at that moment they had not.
He said, A friend gave it to me.
As I was reading the book, God spoke to me, said, Go back and tell Barry.
I'm going to enlarge his territory and I'm going to give him a ministry separate apart from his business.
And I knew what that meant.
It was a ministry to talk to Christians about how much fun it is to share your faith and all the good things that go with it.
The next seven years, our 100-year-old family business doubled in size.
Our TV show went global on all the discovery networks.
I mean, now we're the number one selling car wax in America and countries all over the world.
It's been a crazy ride.
But because I haven't looked at my business as the important thing, my business is my pulpit.
It's secondary, folks.
We can be in politics, we can be teaching, whatever, but secondarily to living the commission, doing what God's called us to do.
Let's get more people in heaven.
That's what we got to do.
So, Barry, you know, there's some people right now in the audience.
They say, but it's hard at my job.
Do you mean that when I go out to a restaurant, I got to say it?
Just walk us through.
What is the Maguire experience?
I mean, I've seen it, everybody.
It's unbelievable.
I mean, it's everybody you could imagine is not an obstacle, like, oh, that person's in the way.
It's an opportunity, an opportunity to bring that person in heaven.
So, walk us through the Maguire day from Starbucks baristas to everybody.
Everywhere you're going, you're putting the gospel all over the valley.
I would correct you to say Maguire way.
I'm saying it's God's way.
We have been taught, all of us have been in church all these years, that it's difficult.
And you have to study and you have to get your points down.
You have to get your life story.
I got a hundred life stories.
Which one do you want me to remember?
You get this all down, then you go out and expect to be persecuted.
And you go out and you finally get somebody, and you're going through the points.
And between point two and point three, they're off somewhere.
I'm trying to get them back so I can get them to point three.
I got to get them saved.
You're on the spot.
I did it all wrong.
Jesus said, Don't know your disciple by your love.
And that changes everything.
It doesn't take you out of your comfort zone.
If you're a Christian, you like to love on people.
But if you love on people intensely with the idea that you can move and move everybody every day closer to Jesus, don't worry about getting them saved, but just love on them.
When you love on people, folks, the Holy Spirit is loving them through you.
When he loves you, he's salvationing you.
The whole purpose of his love is to salvation you to get you to heaven.
When you love on other people, he is salvationing them through you.
Got it?
There's no secular conversation.
Every conversation is sacred.
Every single one.
Every person you talk to, I don't care if they call themselves Christians or not.
But God is sovereignly, particularly the ones that don't look like me.
I love the ones that don't look like me.
They're the most fun.
And you know that God is sovereignly moving on everybody all around us at the same time.
And when we come in, we enter in.
It's a sacred opportunity.
God is actually bringing us in, being a physical manifestation of what he's already talking to them about.
And when you do that, they sense the Holy Spirit.
I tell you, even scoundrels, they sense something's different here.
You're loving on these people.
And I love to do it with people that don't expect me to love about them.
We had a waiter the other day, and he could not have been more of a different persuasion than you could possibly imagine.
But we loved on him and complimented him on his perfume and tipped him well and talked about God to him.
And he was all into it.
We have to stop being defensive.
We're serving the king of kings.
I mean, God is using us and be able to represent him in these last days.
It's amazing.
So you're saying, how do you make that work?
Just love on people.
I can't make it any more simple than that.
You love on people, and when they see that, they respond.
And it happens in the craziest ways.
Karen and I get on the plane.
We always sit next to each other.
We're all suddenly split up.
Every time we get split up, we know, okay, God's up to something.
And he said me next to a gal who has a girlfriend.
And I pull out a Bible and I'm doing some things.
She says, oh, you're a pastor.
I said, no, I'm not a pastor.
I'm a businessman.
Well, what's that?
Oh, I love God.
She's, well, God doesn't love me very much.
I said, well, why are you saying, oh, I'm in a relationship?
And she starts saying, I said, you've got that so wrong.
She says, why?
I said, God loves you.
What?
Yeah, he loves you.
He loves you as much as he's ever loved anybody.
Do you know what that means to people?
You know, most people can't comprehend that God loves them.
They think God's beating up on all the bad stuff.
God is mad at them, trying to punish them.
He loves them, and he wants to bring them to eternity.
He wants them to spend eternity in heaven.
When you start sharing that message, it just opens up the doors.
And Barry, it should be fun, though.
It should be exhilarating.
Tell us about it.
Because some people are saying, this sounds hard.
And it's another thing I have to do.
People don't get mad at you when you tell them God loves them.
They just don't.
That particular gal was praying for her as we landed, but I can think of another.
I got in a taxi, and I was just going a short ways, but it was seven degrees outside.
I'm from California, Arizona.
I don't like cold.
So I said, I'll tell you, a short triple.
I'll give you a big tip.
I don't want a tip.
I said, excuse me.
He said, I don't want a tip.
Well, sir, why don't you want a tip?
I'm a bad person.
I don't deserve a tip.
There's people that are hurting around us.
They're everywhere.
Everywhere you look, and people are hurting.
The world is hurting.
And we have God's love.
And we just walk right by them on our way to our Bible studies or wooden church.
We've got to recognize we're in a war.
This is spiritual warfare.
And we have the opportunity every moment.
I don't care who they are.
They're all needing God.
And when you allow God to move you by his Holy Spirit in, things happen, you know.
So I said, do you know that God loves you?
Living Purpose Without Fear 00:05:31
No.
You know, a scrumpy guy shorted his wood, shorted his steering wheel.
I said, yeah, God loves you.
No.
I said, sir, I'm a Christian.
I know the Bible.
I can tell you he loves you.
No answer.
I said, in fact, do you know he loves you as much as he's ever loved anybody?
No answer.
I said, I'll give you, it gets even better.
Do you know he loves you as much as he loves his own son, Jesus Christ?
No answer.
Now I'm at the end of my road.
So I get out.
He puts the window down, the salt or the glass, it's snowing and everything.
He's looking at me just blank.
I say, sir, God put me in your taxi right now because he wants you to know he loves you and he wants you to spend eternity with him.
He just blanked.
He's just blank.
He's just blank.
Then I gave him a really big tip.
Have a good day, sir.
God bless you.
I walked away.
Yes.
Did I get him saved?
No, I didn't get him saved.
Did I move him closer to Jesus?
You better believe it.
And it's imagine how many opportunities we're missing every day.
Every day, everyone.
Myself included.
I mean, I get annoyed with people.
And I mean, we all do, right?
I especially do at times.
I can be better about this, right?
Which is, you know, it's, I mean, I got to tell you, somebody who's relentless, if we are all like Angel Barnett on airplanes, I'll tell you, this is our relation.
No, it's a real thing.
She'll tell you.
I was taking a nap.
It was a 6 a.m. flight on exit row, and Angel kept on coming back, and she was relentless.
If we're all like that when spreading the gospel, we could double the amount of Christians in America, I could tell you, if we're all like Angel Barnett.
I'm half kidding, but Barry, let's talk about atrophy, right?
Because so there's two types of people, I think, that are here tonight.
This is an overgeneralization.
Some people here that have given their life to the Lord and been Christians for decades, and some people that have not yet given their life to the Lord.
And I want to talk to both of them here.
Let's first talk about people here in the audience.
Charlie or Barry, okay, I'm a Christian, but you're trying to get people out of that atrophy, right?
Of you just feel as if you're going through the motions.
How can we reignite them, get them back into enjoying being a Christian?
I think the telltale sign is fear.
Do you know that 80% of all Christians are living in fear today?
Fear.
They're living in fear.
80% of you, apparently, are living in fear.
There's lots of things to be afraid of.
You start looking around all the things.
I mean, it's really just.
So, how do you get out of fear?
If I asked you, how many of you live your life by trust the Lord with your whole heart and lean not on your own understanding in all your ways, acknowledge him, direct your path?
You all raise your hands.
But 80% of you are living in fear.
So you actually believe stuff, but you're not living it.
Okay.
So how do you get out of that?
How do you actually start living your faith?
It's a whole different world.
You start actually looking at what the scriptures have to say.
How do you have wholehearted faith?
How can you live every day knowing God's going to answer your prayers, that he is answering your prayers?
How do you know every day that God's directing your sets?
Karen, I've been there for years.
Our website is called igniteamerica.com.
You can see all kinds of people who don't look like me that are enjoying this same thing.
I don't have an edge on this.
There are people of all types and persuasions doing it.
There's just not enough of it.
80% of the unchurched know the world's out of control, would like to believe there's a God that could solve the problems and are looking for them.
80% of the unchurched, that's basically everybody around us.
They're all looking.
You can't cop out now and say they're going to think you're a fanatic.
They're looking.
And guess what?
Over 80% of them already have a Christian in their life that they trust.
We could knight America with the revival in 30 days if we wanted to.
And it's so easy.
But we got all these fears and we just don't want to do it.
But you just let go of your fears, stay in your comfort zone, just love fun, people.
And it's amazing what happens.
Let me give you a critical voice.
I'll give you two critical verses tonight.
Romans 8:28 is one that you all know, but I doubt very many of you are really living it.
It's that one that goes, all things work together for good.
You know, I didn't talk about it.
But they don't go to good for me.
And maybe they're going to good for somebody else, but not for me.
I got old.
You don't know the problems I have.
You know, the fact of the matter is, he actually said that.
God doesn't lie.
God is truth.
And he says, I'll make everything, everything, everything in your life for now until you get to heaven.
I think it's the second most important scripture after John 3:16.
I will make everything in your life work together for good if you do two things.
You got to read the whole scripture.
If you love me with all your heart, all your mind, your soul, God, you own me.
I had nothing between me and you.
And you live for my purpose.
Did you hear that?
If you love me and live for my purpose, by purpose, he came to seek and save the lost.
There's no confrontation, no disagreement on that.
He came to seek and save the lost.
When we live our lives not for our purpose, there's nothing in the Bible about your purpose.
It's one purpose to seek and save the lost.
When we live for his purpose every day, then his promise flips in that all things work together.
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