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New York Lawlessness Explained
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| Hey, everybody. | |
| Today on the Charlie Kirk show, what happened in New York City is what happens when you do not have stable police or a society that prioritizes the rule of law. | |
| It's a tragedy. | |
| We dive into that and so much more of the news of the day. | |
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| Here is a fact of life. | |
| Most people do nothing when evil advances. | |
| It is the cliché, the platitude. | |
| All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing by Edmund Burke. | |
| You hear it all the time. | |
| Well, the truism is that most people do nothing when evil advances. | |
| Most people sit idly by when the railcars start to send people to concentration camps. | |
| That's an extreme example, but it's true. | |
| Most people sit idly by when churches were closed and strip clubs were allowed to remain open. | |
| It's just true. | |
| People are more comfortable being spectators of evil than actually interfering with evil. | |
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Edmund Burke's Warning Today
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| Now, in a decent and civil society, we have laws and we have enforcers of the law that make sure that citizens do not have to take things into their own hands. | |
| I do not want to live in a country where we, the people, have to become our own pseudo-police. | |
| It's sloppy. | |
| It's messy. | |
| It's dangerous. | |
| It's not good. | |
| In fact, it's a mark of a third world country where you have to have citizens rise up against people that are committing crimes that are powerful. | |
| You do not want to live in that country at all. | |
| Well, right now, there's a George Floyd 2.0 attempt that is bubbling up in downtown New York City. | |
| Do not take the bait on this. | |
| And we're going to build this out for you. | |
| They're trying to turn this into Floyd a Palooza 2.0 and the misrepresentations, the lies from the media. | |
| I mean, this is a whole new threshold. | |
| And for them, that's really something. | |
| So it's all around this situation, and it's a tragic situation. | |
| I don't think anyone should say that this is a desired outcome. | |
| Somebody died. | |
| It's awful. | |
| Jordan Neely, Jordan Neely obviously had some schizophrenic tendencies with dozens of prior arrests. | |
| Now, 44 prior arrests, 44 prior arrests. | |
| Now, it hasn't been proven yet, but there's some evidence to show that he even tried to push people onto the subway at times. | |
| He was well known on this particular subway stop. | |
| So this was a dangerous person, a dangerous man who New York authorities and the New York Police Department just allowed to roam. | |
| And this is what's now happening in New York City, in Philadelphia. | |
| Remember, New York City is the capital of anarcho-tyranny. | |
| We're going to have tyrannical indictment authority against former presidents we don't like. | |
| But if you want to throw people onto the subway or if you want to terrorize people, if you want to harass people, that's not our problem. | |
| So this guy, this Jordan Neely, started to harass people and was not just bothering people, he was allegedly throwing objects. | |
| He was getting in people's face. | |
| He was disrupting the peace, if you will, on the subway. | |
| And he very well could have hurt somebody. | |
| He very well, with 44 prior arrests, this guy has a track record of widespread criminal behavior, allowed to roam free and be an absolute crazy person. | |
| And so then a good Samaritan, that's right, should be called a good Samaritan, stepped up to this menace to society. | |
| Now, remember, the New York Police Department was letting this maniac roam free until he might have killed somebody. | |
| I want to read this from the New York Post. | |
| A person can be heard in the video expressing worry about, okay, I'll get to that in a second, not yet. | |
| I will read that. | |
| So a good Samaritan steps up. | |
| We don't know who this man is. | |
| And he decides to restrain Jordan Neely. | |
| Put him in a chokehold because he was being a menace to society. | |
| Other people, other passengers decided to help. | |
| Again, the police would not be bothered to do anything. | |
| They're nowhere to be found. | |
| But restraining Jordan Neely, he's fighting back. | |
| He's fighting back. | |
| And it ends up that Jordan Neely dies from this. | |
| He just like stops fighting back at one time. | |
| They stop the chokehold. | |
| And the entire activist left, local people in New York, including Alexandria Ecasio-Cortez, are calling this restraining of a menace to society murder, a homicide, in fact. | |
| It's being categorized as a homicide. | |
| When in reality, it's a lot murkier than that. | |
| It's murkier. | |
| And this is what happens when you do not have police on the streets, if you do not have laws that are enforced, you're going to have messy, cloudy, and confusing situations. | |
| You can put the thing up on screen and they're saying, this is George Floyd 2.0. | |
| Look at the white guy going and murdering the black guy. | |
| That is a lie from the pit of hell. | |
| This guy is a lifelong criminal who should be in jail. | |
| The left's narrative is some ordinary guy and his life ran and living his life and he randomly decided to be murdered on a train for no reason. | |
| No, he was a menace to all the passengers around him. | |
| And so this good Samaritan decided to restrain him and other people decided to help in that regard. | |
| So how is the city of New York reacting to this? | |
| They're saying they're ruling this a homicide. | |
| They're obviously ruling it a homicide because it was a white person restraining a black person, obviously. | |
| They're trying to play into the racial tribalism that fits their political agenda. | |
| The coroner has deemed it a homicide. | |
| And we'll see if criminal charges are actually put forward. | |
| And of course, if they hadn't deemed it a homicide, there'd be big riots because people can't control themselves. | |
| We got to make sure that it gets called a homicide, even though this guy was obviously a lifelong criminal. | |
| Again, this is not an ideal situation at all. | |
| No one wants this individual to be dead. | |
| Yes, he's a criminal. | |
| He doesn't deserve death for that. | |
| But the lesson is this. | |
| When you disassemble all of the institutions of a civil society, police, sane district attorneys, the enforcement of laws, you're going to get widespread vigilante behavior. | |
| Instead of protesting the man who inadvertently killed Jordan Neely while restraining him, New Yorkers should be asking why a madman with 44 prior arrests was walking around the streets in the first place. | |
| New York's catch and release policies have created a powder keg. | |
| A healthy society should produce good Samaritans. | |
| And this is the same thing as Kyle Rittenhouse. | |
| And what they're basically, the message they're sending to you is that when you see evil occur around you, a menace to society, mind your own business. | |
| There's multiple levels of this. | |
| The first level is where the police to be found. | |
| They've had their funding cut, defund the police. | |
| You're going to get more situations like this. | |
| But the tragic thing is, if you are a courageous person, you decide to stand up against a shoplifter, you decide to stand up against a schizophrenic criminal, you then end up being in trouble. | |
| Remember the McCloskeys in Missouri? | |
| Their home was invaded. | |
| And all they did was wave weapons, a perfectly constitutional thing to do. | |
| And they were indicted. | |
| Thankfully, they were eventually pardoned or charges dropped, something on that. | |
| But the McCloskeys, remember they McCloskeys? | |
| They are going to come after you for defending yourself against the hordes of criminals, against the outright criminality on the streets. | |
| Now, I have no, you know, special window into prophecy at all. | |
| But it sure seems like in New York, they are drumming this up to become a George Floyd 2.0. | |
| They want it. | |
| They're yearning for it. | |
| This is going to be homeless Floyd. | |
| Like, oh, wow. | |
| This was a random white person that decided to choke a black person on a subway. | |
| That is so, that's categorically untrue. | |
| In fact, there was a black person that was even helping the Good Samaritan to restrain this individual. | |
| Two things can simultaneously be true. | |
| That's a tragic outcome. | |
| No one wants that. | |
| It doesn't deserve death. | |
| Simultaneously, there's an unintentional result of a good person that was trying to restore civil society. | |
| And AOC, and I'm going to play some of this tape. | |
| Wait till you see how the news is covering it. | |
| They're almost trying to incite a race riot in New York City. | |
| They're misrepresenting it. | |
| They're lying it. | |
| They're lying about it intentionally because it makes the regime more powerful. | |
| They want to turn this into George Floyd 2.0. | |
| I sure hope that the temperature gets brought down. | |
| Eric Adams, to his credit, is actually pushing back a little bit on this. | |
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| You're in a subway and you have this schizophrenic maniac going after women, throwing objects. | |
| Would you sit idly by and just keep on tapping on your phone? | |
| What kind of a country are we living in where the hero, the good Samaritan, gets smeared and slandered? | |
| We used to live in a country where we elevated the person that went into the arena. | |
| I don't want to live in a society where citizens have to step up because, again, it gets murky, it gets messy, and you have tragic unintended consequences. | |
| That largely happened. | |
| This is why we have police. | |
| We should have police. | |
| But this is exactly what they want. | |
| We have to understand. | |
| This is intentional. | |
| Alvin Bragg is Soros funded. | |
| This is all by design. | |
| They need chaos and fear to lead for the, to get to the woke National Police Force. | |
| I'll talk about that in a second. | |
| And so let's just go through some news reports here. | |
| And Eric Adams, to his credit, is actually pushing back against some of the nonsense associated with this with this. | |
| Let's play cut 87 on the news report on Jordan Neely, play cut 87. | |
| The video shows three strap hangers subduing the 30-year-old man after witness Juan Alberto Vasquez says he got on the northbound F train and began acting aggressively, threatening riders. | |
| Law enforcement sources with knowledge of the case confirm his account, saying, according to a witness, the man began shouting, quote, I want food. | |
| I'm not taking no for an answer. | |
| I'm ready to go back to jail and I'll hurt anyone on this train. | |
| So he's threatening. | |
| So this schizophrenic criminal was threatening passengers, 44 prior arrests, and according to reports, even try to push people onto the subway. | |
| This is not some sort of, oh, beautiful, nice person. | |
| Again, doesn't deserve to die. | |
| No one is making that argument. | |
| It's a tragic outcome. | |
| But yeah, he did deserve to get in a chokehold. | |
| You act like that. | |
| Somebody should restrain you. | |
| But the most deserving of the situation is a police officer coming and saying, we're done, pal. | |
| He would still be alive today if the state of New York and the city of New York did its job and put him in a mental institution. | |
| That's a whole separate issue of how we have opened up our insane asylums in our country and how it has negatively impacted our quality of life and our streets. | |
| The kind of mass liberation from insane asylums has been one of the greatest failures of modern American public policy. | |
| And nobody wants to say it out loud. | |
| No one does. | |
| We allow these psychos to roam our streets, murder people. | |
| There is just a situation right now in Scottsdale, Arizona, where a young lady was likely murdered by a homeless person. | |
| We don't know who it is, but all things are pointing to that. | |
| I sure hope that there's more to the story. | |
| It's tragic. | |
| 29-year-old girl hiking at 10 a.m. on a Saturday morning, boom, murdered. | |
| Hope there's more to the story in some way, but it sure seems that way. | |
| This doesn't help anybody. | |
| It doesn't help the psychos. | |
| It doesn't help the schizophrenic people. | |
| It makes society worse. | |
| That the ordinary people then have to suffer at the foot of the tyranny of people that obviously have deep-seated issues and problems. | |
| So Eric Adams, to his credit, let's play cut 93. | |
| Eric Adams is slamming Alexandria Acasio-Cortez for saying this whole situation was murder, play cut 93. | |
| There's also this from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the Democratic Congresswoman. | |
| She said, Jordan Neely was murdered. | |
| What is your response to what they're saying here? | |
| Well, both the Congress Congresswoman and the controller of the patrol is a citywide leader. | |
| And I don't think that's very responsible at the time where we're still investigating the situation. | |
| Let's let the DA conduct its investigation with the law enforcement officials. | |
| To really interfere with that is not the right thing to do. | |
| And I'm going to be responsible and allow them to do their job and allow them to determine exactly what happened here. | |
| And then play cut 90. | |
| Eric Adams on CNN says that we cannot blanketly say what a passenger should or should not do in a situation like that. | |
| He's actually being nuanced. | |
| It's amazing to see from an elected Democrat running a city. | |
| Play Cut 90. | |
| Each situation is different. | |
| And how a passenger, we have so many cases where passengers assist of the riders, and we don't know exactly what happened here until the investigation is thorough. | |
| And each situation is different. | |
| I was a former transit police officer, and I responded to many jobs where you had a passenger assisted someone. | |
| And so we cannot just blatantly say what a passenger should or should not do in a situation like that. | |
| We should allow the investigation to take its course. | |
| All right. | |
| We'll see if he continues his moral clarity as the BLM activist class is going to increase in their ferocity. | |
| We'll see. | |
| But that's a pretty good response by the mayor of New York trying to say, you don't know. | |
| These are murky situations. | |
| Hey, Eric Adams, why don't you fully fund your police and deploy them on the streets and tell Alvin Bragg to leave the city? | |
| That would actually be leadership. | |
| So I'm going to stop short of overly praising Eric Adams. | |
| Most people do nothing when evil advances. | |
| And we're creating a society where if you do something, you end up getting blamed. | |
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Accountability for Prior Administration
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| Bedlam, chaos? | |
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| Joining us now is Senator Rick Scott from the great state of Florida. | |
| Senator, there's a lot of leaking going on, a lot of suspicion about Hunter Biden possibly getting indicted, but also this new story, which is very interesting. | |
| Senator Grassley and James Comer have subpoenaed the FBI over an alleged, quote, criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Biden and a foreign national relating to the exchange of money for policy decisions. | |
| Senator, tell us about this. | |
| Well, it's like everything around Biden. | |
| Why can't they come clean and tell us everything they know? | |
| If you were Joe Biden and he's running for re-election, wouldn't you want the American public to say, hey, I did nothing wrong, so let me open my books and I'll tell you exactly what I did when I was a U.S. senator, exactly what I did when I was vice president, and exactly what I'm doing now. | |
| I'm going to do the, I expect the same thing out of all my family members because I want to make sure every American feels comfortable. | |
| But no, everything is not transparent. | |
| They hide everything. | |
| And so, and what you worry about, and our federal agencies lose their credibility when it appears that they're covering up for the Biden family. | |
| So whether it's DOJ, any of them, we've got to make sure there's transparency there. | |
| I'm glad that there's individuals that are talking to Senator Grassley and Congressman Comer about what's going on there so we can have transparency. | |
| Let's get to the bottom of this. | |
| If Bidens have done nothing wrong, great. | |
| I'm glad they didn't do anything wrong. | |
| But if they have, the American public ought to know that. | |
| Yeah, I'm going to just go out on a limb here and say they've done something wrong. | |
| But the issue here seems to be, and this is what's so interesting, there's this document in FD 1023, which means that the FBI was running an operation through a clandestine human source, and that Joe Biden allegedly just got caught up in it, meaning that they were doing their own operation, tracing foreign nationals that were trying to trade influence for money, and they just so happened to intersect with then Vice President Biden. | |
| I mean, Senator, I don't want to get too ahead of ourselves here, but this could implicate Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, this entire prior administration. | |
| And so this could potentially mean that the federal Bureau of Investigation was running an operation and Joe Biden just happened to stumble into it. | |
| This is new stuff, not the same sort of Tony Bobulinsky stuff we've heard the last couple of years. | |
| This seems to be new, isn't it? | |
| Absolutely. | |
| So, so, I mean, two things. | |
| One, what really happened, right? | |
| And then two, did somebody cover it up? | |
| Because both of them are horrendous. | |
| I totally agree. | |
| What I get frustrated with is let's get better information. | |
| I'm on the Homeland Security Committee. | |
| The Democrats control the committee and the Senate, so they will not allow us to do an investigation. | |
| That's what we're supposed to do. | |
| We're supposed to hold the federal government accountable. | |
| So Gary Peters, who's the chair of the committee, should say, you know what? | |
| It's better for all of us if we know the facts. | |
| Yeah, and I mean, so just, I'm sure this is immensely frustrating. | |
| And this is why we tried so hard to try to give you guys a Senate majority. | |
| I think Mitch McConnell failed us in that regard. | |
| I wish you were in charge of that operation. | |
| I know you're doing your best to try to do that. | |
| But being in a Senate minority, are you getting any cooperation from Democrats on this? | |
| Is there any interest? | |
| Or is it just absolute protection of the regime? | |
| Absolute protection of the Biden administration. | |
| While Biden's in office, Democrats control the U.S. Senate. | |
| There's no investigations that are going to happen. | |
| Thank God that we have a majority in the House. | |
| And thank God that people like Jim Jordan and Kevin McCarthy care about this and there's others that care about it. | |
| So that's our chance. | |
| Now, what we have to do is support what is happening in the House and do everything we can to make sure the public knows. | |
| We're going to work hard to get this out there. | |
| And maybe we can hope Springs Eternal. | |
| Maybe at some point these Democrats say, you know, it's not good for me to be covering up for the Biden administration. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And so, but then there's, this is an interesting thing, right? | |
| So you got Joe Manchin and Tester. | |
| Are they on that committee? | |
| Or are any of these? | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, I just think more broadly, though, and this is kind of to look beneath the surface, right? | |
| If there ends up being an agreement to kind of discard Joe Biden for 2024, it might start in your committee, Senator, where all of a sudden a couple of Democrats say, well, you know, hey, we might as well advance this. | |
| Just kind of the interest. | |
| We're not there yet. | |
| It seems as if they're protecting Joe Biden 100%. | |
| But Senator, this is not the only one. | |
| So we have this potential money for policy thing that our own FBI, you know, is looking at. | |
| Then we have this IRS issue, which is equally as interesting, right? | |
| And so it's hard to keep track of this. | |
| So the IRS whistleblower should be giving whistleblower protection soon by the House. | |
| Merrick Garland could be potentially implicated in this. | |
| Your thoughts? | |
| Well, on top of that, on top of that, wasn't Blinken the one that organized a letter to say, oh, the laptop was Russian disinformation. | |
| And if you talk to Senator Ron Johnson, he'll tell you that Blinken basically lied to him, that he had never, you know, he had never been involved in that at all. | |
| So, I think we've we here's what the American public, and this is not a partisan issue. | |
| The American public expects their elected officials to be transparent and be honest. | |
| The way to make people feel that you're honest is you be transparent. | |
| So, you tell people exactly what you're doing and they'll feel way better about you. | |
| That's not what the Biden family does. | |
| So, it's very opaque. | |
| And so, right now, the Democrats are just, you know, it's like they rallied around them, say, oh, we're not going to let anybody get information because we don't want to have a chance of you losing in 24 because we're getting all of our stuff done through your horrible administration. | |
| But we've got to do it. | |
| Charlie, what you're doing is the right thing to do because you're continuing to get the information out there. | |
| And hopefully, Americans will say, this is wrong. | |
| I want information. | |
| Prove your, you know, we're not going to say you're guilty until you are, but you sure look pretty bad here when you have this information. | |
| Yeah, and I can be a little bit more forthright. | |
| I mean, I think these people are guilty. | |
| And you got to do your job, obviously. | |
| Just find the facts. | |
| I 100% support that. | |
| You know, you have to be responsible. | |
| You don't want to be like Adam Schiff where he just goes on television and he says Donald Trump colluded with the foreign government, right? | |
| That's irresponsible. | |
| It's reckless. | |
| And so I totally appreciate how you have to handle this. | |
| So, Senator, and then we have this Tony Blinken deal, right? | |
| As if it just keeps on layering. | |
| If I were to predict, it seems as if this summer one of these dams is going to break, right? | |
| It's an unsustainable amount of cover-up and corruption. | |
| Do you see the same thing that I'm seeing? | |
| One of these things is going to break. | |
| Yeah, Charlie, it's just there's more information coming out than there's more people that are part of the administration that don't believe in what the Biden administration is doing. | |
| They want to do their job responsibly and they're coming forward and saying, this is wrong. | |
| This is, I mean, like, I talked to DOJ and I talked to the FBI. | |
| I said, you guys are ruining your reputation. | |
| I said, you don't tell anybody about what you're doing. | |
| You know, you go raid Mar-a-Lago, but you, God forbid, won't, and don't tell us why, but you wouldn't do that to Biden. | |
| You can't have two standards here and expect the American public to feel comfortable with you. | |
| They don't. | |
| You're losing your credibility. | |
| It's not good for the country for our institutions to lack credibility by the American public, even if it's just half of the American public. | |
| I think that's smart. | |
| And you're also on the Senate Committee on Armed Services. | |
| And so I want to play a piece of tape here. | |
| And Senator, I'm just curious if there's any inside baseball hallway chatter you could share with how Democrats are spinning or telling you in private their interpretation of the military recruitment being down. | |
| This is not a political issue, right? | |
| Military recruitment is down worse than it has been since the Vietnam War. | |
| That is an existential threat to our reserve currency status, to our health, to our vitality, to all of it, which I find our freedoms. | |
| And I find it a little bit ironic that the consensus in DC is to get overly involved in the Ukraine war while we can't even staff our military properly. | |
| And so, Senator, there's a piece of tape here I want to try to play, which, okay, I'll find it in a second. | |
| What are Democrats saying about this when you approach it? | |
| Well, it's come up. | |
| I'm the ranking Republican on the personnel committee. | |
| Liz Warren is the chair because they have control. | |
| So they've come up and talked about their recruitment down. | |
| I think the only one that recruitment's not down is the Marines. | |
| So you look at this. | |
| I joined the Navy at 18 years old. | |
| I was proud to be a Navy sailor. | |
| I was proud to be part of the U.S. military because it was a military that cared about defending the freedoms of this country. | |
| Now what's happening is a military that, oh, we got the right pronouns, but we're not lethal. | |
| But they don't have any plan. | |
| They came and testified in the last two weeks. | |
| And none of the services, Marines didn't come testify. | |
| And other services had a plan on how they were going to do it and what they didn't, they couldn't figure out why is it not happening. | |
| It has something to do, but with no plan to fix it. | |
| If we don't fix our military recruitment, then how can we defend our freedoms? | |
| And if we want to help anybody, how can we help anybody else? | |
| I mean, this is, but I mean, just is there, what do they say? | |
| Do they have a, do they have a working theory? | |
| Does, I mean, I refuse to believe that every Democrat on that committee is excited about this. | |
| Maybe some are. | |
| I mean, what is their down there? | |
| They ask a question. | |
| Now, on the subcommittee that on the personnel, they all ask questions and none of us gotten great answers. | |
| Well, I mean, nobody, no. | |
| I have some answers. | |
| I mean, and Senator, I'm going to play this piece of tape here. | |
| Play Cut 98. | |
| The United States military is hiring drag queens as their spokespeople. | |
| I mean, yeah, if you're an alpha male 18-year-old from Mississippi, that doesn't make you excited to go serve in this military. | |
| Play Cut 98. | |
| So, yeah, I mean, it keeps on going. | |
| And so, Senator, maybe, you know, when one of your Democrat colleagues asked a question, just show them an iPad and be like, you realize this is what future recruits are seeing. | |
| I mean, there's no, I wouldn't join that service. | |
| Would you? | |
| I mean, that's not the service I joined. | |
| I mean, what are they thinking? | |
| This makes no sense. | |
| They're proud, all right, proud in a different way. | |
| And that's anyway, Senator, say right there. | |
| And I'm glad you're starting to speak about this because out of all the issues, the one where I'm like, even moderate Democrats need to have a bipartisan consensus that military recruitment's down 20 or 30 percent. | |
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| Senator, there seems to be a looming battle over the debt ceiling. | |
| Admittedly, this is more House of Representatives v. Biden, but what is the Senate Republican strategy on this? | |
| There's some leaked stories out of Politico where Joe Biden is asking Mitch McConnell to almost bail him out. | |
| How do you think Republicans should approach our reckless trillion-dollar deficit spending? | |
| We should do everything we can to support what the Freedom Caucus in the House did because they put out a plan and then they worked with Kevin McCarthy to get 217 Republicans to vote for something in the House. | |
| And guess what? | |
| It cuts spending. | |
| It has a plan that gives us a balanced budget. | |
| It gets people back to work, grows our economy. | |
| So what they put out was very responsible. | |
| And our job in the Senate is say we are very supportive of what the House did. | |
| And Joe Biden, you ought to sit down and basically you ought to take what the House did. | |
| And by the way, Schumer, if you don't like it or you and Joe Biden don't like it, what is your idea? | |
| But if not, and Schumer put the bill that came out of the House on the floor and let's vote on it. | |
| So, but what they're going to do is they're going to wait until the last minute. | |
| They're going to try to scare the living daylights out of all Americans that we're going to default on our debt. | |
| By the way, we don't default on our debt. | |
| We have the ability to pay our interest through our revenues. | |
| So this is a made-up issue by Biden that all, you know, the whole world is going to fall apart. | |
| The world's going to fall apart if Joe Biden continues not to do his job. | |
| So our job is, is to show up and do everything we can to support what Kevin McCarthy is doing. | |
| So if you look below the surface, and I'm a fiscal hawk, right? | |
| I think that this deficit spending is out of control. | |
| I know you are, Senator, too. | |
| It's one of the reasons why I support your plan so much. | |
| What you're trying to do is if we don't balance our budget, the whole country is over with. | |
| And I feel like Republicans have been just as bad as Democrats. | |
| But Biden has really, yeah, and Biden has really changed his tone, right? | |
| So before it was, oh, it's all Democrat, all Republicans, all this. | |
| He did not think McCarthy could get the votes. | |
| And McCarthy, to his credit, came up with a good plan, not a great plan, but a good plan. | |
| It's going to get us eventually to balance, cut a lot of spending, and he got 217 votes. | |
| So now Biden, they're freaking out, right? | |
| They're calling Mitch McConnell for help. | |
| But Senator, I want to get your thoughts on this. | |
| And you could just see that the Treasury Department and the White House communications staff, they're working the phones because literally New York Magazine, Politico, New York Times, MSNBC, Washington Post, all with the exact same headline, which is Joe Biden can just raise the debt ceiling unilaterally because it might be unconstitutional. | |
| I don't know if you saw or heard this. | |
| Yeah, so tell us your thoughts on this. | |
| So he cannot do it by himself, first off. | |
| Now, he can prioritize payments by himself. | |
| He has that right to prioritize payments. | |
| He says he doesn't, but Obama put out that he could. | |
| The Treasury Department then said they could. | |
| So he could do that. | |
| But he cannot raise the debt ceiling by himself. | |
| That is not allowed. | |
| It takes a majority of the House, and it's going to take 60 votes in the Senate. | |
| So what we ought to understand is that this is going to take Biden to sign something, the Senate to pass something, which is going to take at least nine Republicans, if every Democrat wants to do it, and it's going to take a majority in the House. | |
| And I don't think anything is going to get through the House unless Kevin McCarthy and Republicans want to get it done. | |
| I mean, they are committed to fiscal responsibility. | |
| I mean, Charlie, who gets to just spend money like crazy? | |
| You have to live within your means. | |
| Every American has to live within our means. | |
| Your government at every level should say, this is my revenue. | |
| This is what I'm going to spend. | |
| I did it as governor of Florida, and I actually paid off a third of state debt. | |
| Florida had not lived within its means for 20 straight years before it became governor. | |
| You can do this. | |
| We can balance the budget. | |
| We actually never have to raise a debt ceiling if we just balance our budget. | |
| Fiscal sanity is not talked about enough at all. | |
| When I first got started at Turning Point USA, our national debt was $11 trillion. | |
| Now it's upwards of $30 trillion. | |
| It's tripled in nearly 10 years. | |
| And both parties are to blame for this. | |
| So, Senator, last question on this. | |
| Do you think current Senate leadership is going to hold the line or is it a mystery at this current moment? | |
| Well, Schumer wants to just do a debt ceiling. | |
| So I'm going to make sure, and I'm working with other Republicans to make sure we, when we raise a debt ceiling, it's going to be responsible. | |
| It's going to move us towards a balanced budget, get our country back to work, get our people back to work. | |
| We did a press conference yesterday. | |
| 19 of us showed up to say we are supporting Kevin McCarthy to get something done. | |
| And Joe Biden, show the heck up. | |
| Senator, thank you so much. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| You're welcome anytime. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Thanks so much for listening, everybody. | |
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| Thanks so much for listening. | |
| God bless. | |
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