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April 19, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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California vs. Christians with Pastor Mike McClure and James Lawrence
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Pastor Fined $3 Million 00:11:57
Hey everybody, today Charlie Kirk Show, a pastor fined $1.2 million for staying open during COVID.
We talked about the latest in the Douglas Mackey case.
And also, I talk food at the end of this episode.
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We have Bob Tyler, who is the president of Advocates for Faith and Freedom and Mike McClure, a story that I care about deeply here.
I have had a chance to speak at this church multiple times.
Let me give you the backstory.
Calvary Chapel in San Jose, California is a large evangelical church that defied state and local ordinances.
They refused to do this mask and social distancing and these unconstitutional measures.
Now they are forced to pay $1.2 million in fines because bureaucrats got mad at them.
And Pastor McClure and Bob Tyler join us now.
Welcome to you both.
Hi, Charlie.
Good to be here.
So, Pastor McClure, walk our audience through your story from your perspective.
You decided to remain open.
If I understand correctly, at your Easter service, even a couple of weeks ago, you guys had dozens of new people baptized.
Tell us your story.
So, back in 2020, we opened up along with many other churches across the state of California during, it was in May, Pentecost Sunday.
And in doing that, we took in other churches as well, drew the attention from some of these other churches from the county.
They began to fine us for a number of different things.
And so, we've been in this legal battle with them for, you know, since then, for over two years now.
So, we're just continuing to stand our ground like all these other churches throughout California have done.
And they just like to, they just like to pick on us, I guess.
But, yeah.
And so, so, Bob, walk our audience through the recent court decision.
This is this is amazing to me.
I thought religious assembly is protected by the First Amendment.
What is the basis of this fine?
Well, the basis of the fine is that the church would not enforce the face masks, that the church would not be the face mask police.
And so, when the church opened its doors and said, we're going to allow people to come in and meet, the church had a sign out there and said face masks are required.
Actually, had face masks on tables, but they were not going to force people to put face masks on.
And that was the that was a part of fine.
I should step back and say that, you know, the county started out with $4 million in fines, okay?
Roughly $4 million.
They dropped it down for kind of some unknown reason to about $3 million.
And we've been litigating over the $3 million.
And the Superior Court judge ruled that all of the fines that were not associated with a face mask, effectively, were deemed unconstitutional.
And that kept open approximately $1.2 million in fines that were associated with the church not forcing people to wear face masks.
The funny thing about this is that I shouldn't even say it's not even funny, is that the one order that they're relying on for this $1.2 million, we believe is a fabricated order in the first place, that this fine that they issued was fabricated well into the litigation once the county knew that they were going to lose on everything else.
And so they tried to create a situation.
And we believe that the metadata behind the document itself shows and will ultimately prove it.
And we tried to get the court to understand that, but court still ruled against us on a motion for summary judgment.
We're going to take it back and we're going to say this should be in front of a jury for a jury to decide.
So then is there an appeal process now that is going to unfold?
Is that correct?
Yeah, we're going to take this up on appeal.
First off, the face mask fines themselves are unconstitutional based upon U.S. Supreme Court precedent.
We already took this case up to the Court of Appeal once, and the orders that declared Pastor Mike and the church to be in contempt of court were deemed unconstitutional.
They slapped the judge back and said, no, you're wrong.
This is not accurate.
This is unconstitutional.
So we're going to go back up to the same court of appeal again.
And Lord willing, they'll do the same thing.
It's a different judge.
If we have to take this all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court, we're going to address the constitutionality of this face mask order in addition to trying to be able to get our day in court where we can show that this face mask order, not the order itself, I should say, the notice of violation, show that the notice of violation itself was fabricated.
So, Pastor, can you tell us just some of the amazing spiritual breakthroughs you guys have been able to experience because you remained open versus remain closed?
How many people have you seen commit their life to the Lord, recommit their life to a relationship with God?
Just tell us some of the success stories, some of the positives of how you were able to see God's grace and blessing while you took a courageous stand.
There are thousands of stories just like that.
We have baptized, I think, over a thousand people since we've opened in the last year and a half.
We have had so many stories.
In fact, during this process, we asked everyone to email their representative at the city and the county to let them know why church is important.
We've had people who attempted suicide.
They even worked for the county.
They came here.
They gave their lives to Christ.
They brought their relatives.
We've had people, they walk in the doors.
They're crying even before they come in to hear the worship.
And so there is so many stories.
I can't even begin to tell you.
I wish we're actually writing it down that we could have a little book, just the stories of what God is doing.
And it really is a revival.
I had someone yesterday ask me what's going on with the county and the legal aspect.
I said, well, basically, the county is giving us millions of dollars worth of free advertising for the gospel and for the furtherance of the kingdom of God.
So I look at it as every time they try to come against us, because the Bible says in Ephesians 6 that we wrestle not against flesh and blood.
They went after our bank.
They got our bank to basically foreclose on us.
They put a geofencing around our property.
They sent OSHA after us, and they continued to lie.
This guy, James Williams, he's a Soros fellow.
He's running our whole county, and he lies continually.
He will never meet with us.
So I just, you know, I just look at it as God's going to work.
They're not fighting against me.
They're fighting against God.
And behind them is Soros.
Behind us is the Lord.
And so in the end, this is really a spiritual battle.
And I see people knowing that, coming into this understanding of who Christ is.
And we have had so many stories.
It's remarkable.
It's a blessing.
And I'm honored just to watch God work in these people's lives.
And that's one of the reasons I told the judge that we're not going to close our church because there's so much fruit, not just that we have a First Amendment, but that we have so much evidence of people that wouldn't be alive today if we didn't open up.
I get emails from people that have given their life to the Lord because you guys remained open.
And so let me ask you in closing here.
So, Bob, do you have any idea of liquor stores or Canada's dispensaries or BLM protesters?
Have they been fined?
Has the local city gone after them to try to issue fines for being super spreaders, despite the fact that they cannot prove a single infection came from the fact you guys remained open?
You're right in the facts there that they cannot prove a single infection, even though coming from this church or the gathering, even though we're in Silicon Valley, big technology, Soros-oriented lawyer putting this geofence around.
They still can't identify any COVID cases or infections spreading inside this church.
And yes, there are other businesses out there who actually have been fined.
Not like this church, though.
They're intent on this church, and we believe it's entirely because of their faith.
And there's one issue I want to share with you.
I think this is such an awesome story.
Early in the middle of the pandemic, we did a press conference with Pastor Mike, and there are a whole bunch of pastors that came behind Pastor Mike at the church.
And there was a lady who was probably in her 80s, and she was there at the press conference.
She goes to the church, and she came up and she ended up speaking in the press conference.
And she said, I would rather die of COVID than be forbidden from attending and worshiping God in church and being with my fellow believers because this is my family.
That's amazing.
In closing, Pastor, how can people support you?
You could pray.
I look at our country and thank you, Charlie, for all that you're doing.
You got to do both the hand holding the trial and the hand holding the sword.
And, you know, we got to build.
I think the church's job is to preach the gospel and we need to stand politically.
And so pray for us.
You know, don't we don't need your money.
We need your prayers.
And this is a fight against, you know, light and dark.
And we are here to stand for the things that God wants us to do in this valley.
And it is a challenging place to live.
It's where the whole shutdown starts, started, and where the globalists really are implementing a lot of the things in our country.
So just pray for our church and the other churches in the area and just that God would prevail and be glorified through all this.
That's the greatest thing that you could do.
Thanks so much, Charlie, for having it.
We have your back 100%.
Also, if you are in the Bay Area, go to Calvary Chapel, San Jose.
If you guys want to make a special trip with your family to go see a courageous church, go to Calvary Chapel, San Jose.
We have your guys back 100%.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
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Senator Fetterman's Working Class Image 00:02:29
Here's Mr. Fetterman, of course.
Welcome back, Senator.
How are you feeling, Senator?
How are you feeling?
When a Democrat.
It's good to be back, he says.
When a Democrat goes through an ailment, it's how are you feeling?
When a Republican goes through an ailment, it's, are you up to the job?
It's totally different.
When a Republican goes through something difficult, they immediately say, Are you sure you're capable?
You don't have health issues?
Are you really able to do this?
I'm told that later John Fetterman came out in a suit on the Senate floor.
He has to.
They still have some rules around there.
You know what really?
I don't like Fetterman.
He's not a good guy, okay?
Sorry, he's dealing with depression.
I'm sorry he has those struggles.
I hope he overcomes them.
I mean that non-sarcastically.
I don't like him for a lot of other reasons.
But one of the reasons I don't like him is he appropriates the working class aesthetic.
He's not a working class guy.
He's not.
John Fetterman is not someone who is a plumber or electrician or part of the muscular class.
He's a bum.
He's a trust fund bum.
And he has been for quite some time.
And he was a bad mayor.
He failed at that.
He wants to decriminalize drugs and open up prisons.
And he dresses like that as a shtick.
It's a Hollywood actor.
It's the same sort of thing that is kind of, we're okay with the trans thing.
You could pretend to be something that you're not.
He's trans working class, is what he is.
You are not part of the working class.
You're not part of the muscular class.
You don't work with your hands ever.
But he dresses like that because he thinks he can fool people.
Maybe it worked in Pennsylvania, I guess.
But they have a ballot harvesting, ballot capturing collection operation in Pennsylvania that just, and they obviously are able to lie and blur lines and not play by the rules and do all sorts of different shenanigans in Pennsylvania.
But it just bothers me to a great extent, John Fetterman coming out and appropriating the aesthetic of the very people that his policies are going to crush.
When he goes and votes for the Green New Deal or whatever energy anti-energy campaign there is, while he goes and he kind of wears the uniform, look at me, I'm a working class guy.
How about you put on a TyPal?
Okay, you're a United States Senator.
They say he supports fracking.
I don't believe it.
He's had contradictory stuff on that.
Okay, let's play another piece of tape here.
Housing Disparities and Discrimination 00:03:40
I want to get to.
Oh, where is it?
I had this all lined up.
Let's go to this one here.
Oh, this is too good to be.
This is too good.
I could do a whole hour on this.
Pete Buttajej, who, by the way, if there ever was a theory that artificial intelligence has already been able to create a human being in a biolab, it's definitely Pete Buttigieg.
He is patient zero exhibit A of Chat GPT is actually more advanced, and the government's been lying to us.
Here's cut 10 of the automaton of how Chat GPT has taken over our government.
Pete Buttigeg, you want to say, hey, Charlie, artificial intelligence is not big of a deal.
Imagine an entire government that talks like this.
Imagine an entire regime.
You just have Pete Buttigeg everywhere.
Listen to this garbage.
Play cut 10.
We've got a crisis when it comes to roadway fatalities in America.
We lose about 40,000 people every year.
It's a level that's comparable to gun violence.
And we see a lot of racial disparities.
Black and brown Americans, tribal citizens, and rural residents much more likely to lose their lives, whether it's in a car or as a pedestrian being hit by a car.
There are a lot of reasons related to discrimination, related to even the ways that roads are designed and built.
Who has access to a safe street design that's got crosswalks and good lighting?
Who doesn't have that access?
That can drive disparities.
And we have a responsibility to act on that.
All right, Alfred E. Newman, do you think there might be any other explanation for a disparity with the community other than discrimination?
Is that even something that you could comprehend?
Thomas Sowell wrote the best book on this, Discrimination and Disparities.
Or maybe it's disparities and discrimination.
I think it's discrimination and disparities.
And he asks the most thoughtful academic question, why are we blaming everything on discrimination when in reality, there are hundreds of other possible explanations?
And some of which are innocent, some of which are self-reflective, some of which you can improve without public policy.
But for people who to judge, racism is the only answer.
Can he even define what is racism?
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Twitter Meme Lawsuit Appeal 00:12:07
Okay, very important guest with a tragic story that I hope we can dive into maybe a little bit more freely now that the case is over, but I bet there's going to be an appeal.
So we have to be, I could say whatever I want, but I really want to dive into this.
It's really important.
It's James Lawrence.
He's a partner at Envisage.
Did I say that right, James?
That's right.
Envisage law.
Very good.
Okay, the Douglas Mackey case is one of the most disturbing things I've seen in my lifetime when it comes to criminal law.
It's a young man who now faces 10 years in prison because of posting a meme against Hillary Clinton.
And it's a tragedy all the way through.
So, James, you were representing or your firm was representing Douglas, is that right?
Well, we represented his legal defense fund, to be clear.
We did not try the case, but we've helped with that.
So walk us through how the case went.
Obviously, it resulted in a conviction.
Right.
What was the government's case?
And how does it apply to future prosecutions?
So the government brought a claim under 18 USC, Section 241, which is a section of the Civil Rights Act of, I believe, 1871 or 1870.
And it's also known by the name the Ku Klux Klan Act.
And the theory of prosecution was that Mr. Mackey's conspiring with people through DM messaging on Twitter and the publication of a meme which invited viewers of Twitter to text their vote for former Secretary Clinton to a particular number was sufficient to give rise to criminal liability.
The trial, I believe, went on for three days in Brooklyn, New York.
The jury deliberated carefully over the issue for three to four days and ultimately returned a guilty verdict against Doug.
And as you alluded to in the open, there are now post-trial motions that are going to be filed by Doug's criminal defense team in Brooklyn in federal district court.
And now the case is going to be teed up for appeal.
And I would ask your viewers to consider learning more about the case at meme defensefund.com and also supporting the effort on appeal as this goes up to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals and really to take it all the way to the United States Supreme Court if necessary, because as you also noted, the implications aren't just limited to Doug and what he posted.
Potentially, it has a chilling effect on all speeches.
Yeah, but I mean, what was the response by the government when the defense counsel, I imagine, said this is First Amendment protected speech.
This is satire and humor.
What was the argument by the government that this was malicious?
Did they use a racial argument here?
I'm curious because the spirit of the law, that is a racially based violation.
Right.
Well, the government put on evidence of certain things, certain inflammatory things that were said by the account at issue on Twitter and through these direct messages.
And certainly that had an impact on the jury.
Those were proffered to show evidence of a conspiracy.
Hold on.
I got to interrupt.
The judge allowed evidence outside of the meme at hand to be shown to the jury.
I mean, how is that possible?
Well, to prove from the government's perspective, to prove that a conspiracy had taken place.
And this will be part, this was a contested issue, Charlie, in the days leading up to the trial.
There were pre-trial motions, motions and lemonade filed to exclude that evidence on the basis that it was more prejudicial than probative of the issues at hand, particularly when you're talking about inflammatory language about race and sex in a trial like this.
And that evidence ultimately made its way to the jury and now will provide another avenue of appeal.
I've used the term the triple play before, and we really do have that going on.
Perhaps with the evidentiary issues, it's a grand slam.
But just to go back to the three issues, we've got First Amendment issues, Fifth Amendment issues, and Sixth Amendment issues because of a late stage disclosure by the government of what Doug's defense argued was exculpatory evidence that should have been disclosed under the Brady precedent, Supreme Court precedent.
So this is extraordinary.
There are multiple grounds for Doug's appellate team now to attack the conviction.
And if, again, your viewers would be so inclined, they can give to support that effort at meme defensefund.com.
So hopefully that there's a successful appeal.
And so let's talk, I mean, so how does the appeal versus sentencing go?
Does he get sentenced and then there's an appeal or what is the timeline there?
So sentencing is set for August, I believe August 18th, if memory serves.
And Doug's defense will attempt to stay the incarceration until the appellate courts have fully digested the issues that are going to be going up.
Again, first to the Second Circuit and ultimately to the Supreme Court, if need be.
This is so incredibly important.
You're also involved in other legal, let's say, legal projects.
I guess that's a fair thing to say, including the Babylon B. Tell us about that.
Yeah, happy to.
So last week, we filed a lawsuit against Attorney General Rob Bonta on behalf of the Babylon B, Tim Poole, and the social media network Mines.
And this is related, Charlie, to an important law that was enacted by the California General Assembly last year.
It's called AB 587, and it's a law that requires social media platforms like Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to collect data and publish it to the government, publish it to the Attorney General's office in California related to eight different categories of speech on those websites.
And that includes, among other undefined categories of speech, hate speech, racism.
Your audience is, I'm sure, familiar with these two terms, misinformation and disinformation, as well as extremism and radicalization.
We have argued in court filings and in the complaint that we filed last week that this violates the First Amendment.
It's designed by Governor Newsom's own admission when he signed the bill into law to stop quote unquote hate from reaching Californians and to chill First Amendment protected speech.
We've also argued that the terms in the law are vague and void for vagueness under the 14th Amendment.
So that case was filed last Tuesday in California in the Central District of California, Federal District Court.
How do you think that is going to proceed?
I mean, sometimes those cases take a long time.
So what is your guess there?
So we're going to be taking action to tee the issues up for decision by the federal district court judge in short order.
We're going to be raising, again, arguments under the First Amendment and the vagueness doctrine of the 14th Amendment.
So stay tuned.
The complaint is actually posted to your viewers who might be interested on our firm's website at envisage.law on our blog, and they can log on there and learn more about it and read it.
Well, I think it's fascinating, and I think it's critical in several different ways.
We're getting a lot of emails here, freedom at charliekirk.com.
Can you just speak more broadly?
Well, first, I want to actually talk about Alex Berenson.
Can you give us some thoughts there?
Yeah, so I'm privileged to represent Alex in his case against President Biden and senior White House officials, as well as Dr. Scott Dottleb and Dr. Albert Borla.
And this all relates, Charlie, to things that came out after our pathbreaking lawsuit, which, again, I was privileged to be a part of and to serve as lead counsel in, where Alex sued Twitter for his deplatforming and he was deplatforming in August of 2021 and was ultimately reinstated to the platform.
What we learned in that litigation is that very powerful actors in the White House had repeatedly inquired about why Twitter had not banned Alex Behrenson.
And then literally 24 hours before Alex was deplatformed for Twitter for questioning the safety and efficacy of the COVID vaccines, Dr. Scott Gottlieb contacted Twitter secretly and lobbied.
Uh with respect to uh Twitter's, uh Alex's access to the platform.
So uh, the the.
This lawsuit is a is in some ways a follow-on to his original lawsuit.
We filed it last week actually last wednesday in Manhattan and in the southern district of New York.
It's against the government, it's against again to senior officials at Pfizer and, and your viewers can again learn more about the lawsuit by logging on to our website and our blog at Envisage LAW, at Envisage LAW OF Envisage excuse me, DOT LAW.
So we're also, you know, contemplating some legal action against University California Davis UH, for what they said about me and I don't know.
I'm getting all sorts of different opinions from other people.
We'd love to our team's in a chat with you with this, but you know the threshold is very difficult right now to be able to achieve a conclusive decision right on defamation or slander when it comes to public figures.
Even though they said that I support the lynching of trans people, i've never said that, never even close to it.
It's a complete fiction.
Any thoughts on on that wrinkle of the law and how we should think about that about a minute remaining?
Well well look, the the Supreme Court, as you said in NEW YORK Times Versus Sullivan, has set a very, very high bar to meet for public figures and in in that regard um, interestingly enough, we're seeing right now plaintiffs having somewhat uh, success in potentially piercing that veil with respect to the litigation that's ongoing against Fox by Dominion right.
Yep um, so it's not necessarily impossible.
It's a very high bar to meet but um, you know, just like uh, the the case we brought against Twitter on behalf of Alex uh there, there are many different ways to skin the cat and to try to bring justice, and so it's one of the reasons we're here at Envisage is to take on those kinds of cases.
Well, very good James, thank you for your leadership.
God bless you.
Thanks so much.
We'll be in touch.
Thank you, Ditto.
God bless you, thank you.
what if i told you that there could be mRNA in the food supply this is not some sort of fringe conspiracy theory they're going to start giving animals mRNA vaccines attorney tom rens speaks out against it and this is gaining steam this mRNA stuff is in the food supply for all you guys that's strong against them well you're going to get them anyway through your food play cut 13.
mRNA in the Food Supply 00:04:53
This mRNA stuff is in the food supply.
We know that Merck has a product called Sequevity.
They've been injecting mRNA into pigs since 2018.
We know that they can actually make what's called transmissible mRNA.
And what that means is that they can put this stuff in an animal so that it transmits to whoever is ingesting whatever it is that they're ingesting and they become vaccinated.
So they could engineer this into plants, into animals, into various things.
And if we don't get this closure, if we don't pass some informed consent laws, what's going to happen is, is for all you guys that stood strong and said, no, these mRNA vaccines, well, you're going to get them anyways, right, through your food.
I know Florida is thinking about doing an informed consent law.
You know, talking about food is a very interesting topic that we don't speak about enough.
The food we are eating today is not the food of generations before.
It's genetically modified.
It's not as nutritious.
I think one of the reasons why America is getting fatter and fatter is the quality of our food goes down.
And that's an interesting question, isn't it?
Because the promise of free markets is that things always get better.
And I'm a free market guy, but I'd love to challenge a puritanical, libertarian free market type on why is it, though, that at scale, we're actually seeing the quality of the food go down.
We're actually seeing a heavier carbohydrate diet.
And by the way, this has been the truth for quite some time.
What if I told you the entire food pyramid is a lie?
The food pyramid has been a lie for quite some time.
What if I told you you could survive just on proteins and fats and you really don't need carbohydrates?
You really don't.
Proteins and fats, your body goes into a form of ketosis.
It's called a ketogenic diet.
It's not necessarily always enjoyable to eat that way, but you could survive on it.
What if I told you that high cholesterol is not the worst thing in the world?
It's not.
You see, a heavy carbohydrate diet, your body overemphasizes your glycogen stores, turns the food to glucose, and then to fat storage.
See, there's the food pyramid right there.
Now, look at that food pyramid.
We've indoctrinated our kids, and doctors use this as a way to believe that the most important thing is simple carbohydrates.
Now, complex carbohydrates can play a role.
If you're trying to lose weight, it's not the best thing for you, but complex carbohydrates like sweet potatoes and quinoa can be very good for you.
But simple carbohydrates, rice, oats, oats are not as simple, rice, wheat, not good for you.
Corn.
And yet, that's the number one emphasis.
And so, yeah, I mean, if you're trying to alleviate widespread hunger, then yeah, sure.
But we don't have that problem.
We have a surplus problem.
And if you look back at that food chart, meat, protein, it's not where it should be.
It's all the way near the top.
I can't really see it.
It's near the top, right?
We're all the way near the top.
Second down from the top.
When in reality, probably people aren't getting enough protein in their diet.
And yeah, fruits are great.
Vegetables are great.
But what kind of fruits are you eating?
These are serious questions.
And so a robust discussion about how we eat in our country is long overdue.
I think it's contributing to rising obesity, sluggishness.
Why do we eat as much as we do?
Why do we eat three meals a day?
It's an antiquated model, actually.
You don't need to eat as much as you probably are.
These are things that I'd love our leaders to talk about.
Said they don't.
You see, the pharmaceutical industrial complex is intent on keeping people sick.
We have a sick care system.
You really don't, people say, oh, breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
It isn't, actually.
Extending your feeding window actually is better for fat loss, HDH growth, mental clarity.
It upregulates your hormone production.
Eating too often can actually down-regulate your hormone production.
It depends on what you're eating.
Some people like lots of little meals out there.
I'm not going to tell you what to do, but these are interesting discussions, aren't they?
Our government seems totally uninterested in it.
By the way, we could play more other tapes.
Eric Adams says, oh, yeah, plant-based diet is best for you.
No, it's not.
The great Andrew Huberman says, if there was just one thing, if you could eat for the rest of your life, what would it be?
You'd say red meat, steak.
You get your vitamins, get your nutrients, get your fat, your protein, and you could survive.
Show me another food where you could do all that.
It's a topic I wish we could talk about more.
But yes, to summarize that, there very well might be mRNA in your food.
Buy local.
Buy farm-raised.
Be very careful what you eat.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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