The 2024 GOP primary is heating up. Attacks — and spending — are on the rise. Is this worth it? Charlie weighs in on the party's current situation, asking whether it is even necessary to have a primary when Trump’s aggressive campaign has him so far up in the polls. Charlie also unpacks how conservatives can come back from several disappointing election cycles to see victory once again.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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We had a very interesting weekend this last weekend.
We had a retreat for our top supporters at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.
And I learn a lot when I'm around some of our supporters and our donors.
I asked them, you know, how are you feeling for 2024?
And there was an interesting perspective that I totally sympathize with.
They said, Charlie, we just don't want a long primary.
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We don't want a bloody primary while the Democrats get ready to coronate a single person while they build a machine for ballot chasing and voter registration.
And we're just kind of worrying about a specific candidate.
And I said, well, you know, do you guys, are you okay with Trump?
And a lot of Trump enthusiasts.
I said, look, that's not really the point.
The point is, I want to win.
That was the main rallying cry, especially amongst our Turning Point Action donors, is we want to win.
We want to do what it takes to win.
We want to get towards building a coalition of victory.
We're sick of losing.
We're sick of this pattern of falling short.
We're sick of them being able to gain the system and we're going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a primary.
We have to win.
It has to be mission critical.
And the question I want to ask today as we begin is, should we really play into a Republican primary?
Is it necessary?
Is it a good thing to have a long, drawn-out primary?
I could see arguments for both sides, but it is a fact that Donald Trump has surged to the Republican primary polls.
In certain states, he has 60 or 70 percent.
Other states, 50 to 60 percent.
Donald Trump, in the last couple of months, his team decided to take a ultra aggressive, like 10 out of 10 aggressive posture towards Ron DeSantis.
I personally didn't like a lot of this.
I like Ron DeSantis.
I think he's a good governor.
But it's a fact that the strategy has worked for Donald Trump.
He's relentlessly pounding Ron DeSantis by running ads.
He is tweeting about him.
Well, not tweeting, but he's posting social media about him.
He's talking negatively about him.
And Ron DeSantis really hasn't responded very much.
DeSantis, one of his super PACs is a couple ads up here or there, but it's working.
And so the question is, can somebody else besides Donald Trump actually become the nominee?
It's not going to be Asa Hutchinson.
It's not going to be Glenn Young.
Glenn Young said he might want to run.
Should we even indulge in Republican primaries?
You see, the Democrats have decided no more primaries.
And yes, there is an article out today that shows that Joe Biden is less popular than ever before.
Now, we made the prediction that Joe Biden is not going to run for re-election.
That remains to be a mystery.
Is he going to run?
Is he not going to run?
Very soon, we're going to have to find out.
But it doesn't matter.
Joe Biden running in 2024 is going to be really hard to beat.
And they say, what do you mean, Charlie?
Hard to beat.
He's so unpopular.
Yep.
He can't even speak in sentences.
Yep.
Tough to beat.
Candidate quality means next to nothing right now.
Because the Democrats have such a structural advantage with how they've built the infrastructure in these key states.
They can run a brain-dead person like they did, a pseudo-brain-dead person like John Fetterman, who can become a senator.
They just chase ballots.
They relax the signature verification thresholds.
They have their thousands of paid community organizers, knock on doors and scoop up ballots.
We're harvesting this legal.
They relentlessly run television advertisements.
The oligarchs come in with text message campaigns and anti-Republican campaigns.
They micro-target.
They do not run a campaign.
They run 40 different campaigns.
They run a micro-targeted campaign for pro-abortion voters in the suburbs of Philadelphia.
They run one for people that are concerned about gun violence, people that immigration is their top issue.
They run micro-targeted campaigns with sophistication, data precision.
They don't care who the candidates are.
Should we?
That's an interesting question.
Should we care as much as we do?
The Democrats say we don't care who the candidate is.
We want to run with our machine.
So whether it's Joe Biden or not, my advice is don't take the bait.
They're going to blur the lines.
They're going to do stuff that is not totally ethical.
And as we are progressing, Donald Trump is gaining steam, not decreasing with steam.
It's probably still a good idea for Ron DeSantis to run, especially in the primaries, or even participate in the debates.
Better to run and lose and not be forgotten, and there will be another hot thing in Florida by 2028.
That's the personal advice I would give for Ron DeSantis.
I say this as a friend of Ron DeSantis.
He's had a bad month and a half.
He has not come across as strong or confident.
His team would disagree with what I'm saying.
I'm just telling you what the grassroots are saying.
I see your emails.
He's just kind of seemed as a scripted politician where people right now want a fighter.
In a time of widespread weakness, Donald Trump is coming across as strong.
And Ron DeSantis is not.
And some of the advice that Ron DeSantis is receiving is: well, you know, don't get into the gutter.
Don't get into the fight that Donald Trump will win best.
There's some truth at that at the same time.
Are you going to engage at all?
You see, the Republican primary is it ending before it begins.
So Joe Biden at Politico.com, Biden's poll numbers look grim as he prefs a reelection bid.
None of it matters.
Stop looking at polls.
How many ballots are you going to chase?
How many ballots are you going to bank?
Again, Fetterman is evidence that somebody with no talent that can't speak sentences can speak someone who's charismatic.
Dr. Roz, who is a very successful heart surgeon.
According to 538, Biden's average poll numbers stands at 43%, about nine points lower than his 52% disapproval rating.
Doesn't matter.
That's only one point higher than Trump's 538 approval rating on April 15th, 2019, at the same point in his presidency.
Joe Biden has one of the lowest approval ratings of any president at this time.
Remember, we were like, oh, the midterms are going to be amazing.
Joe Biden is so unpopular.
Were they amazing?
Remember, September was all about Joe Biden being doomed and we're going to sweep the Senate.
We didn't sweep the Senate.
They did well.
They won the Nevada Senate race.
They won the Arizona Senate race.
They won the Pennsylvania Senate race.
They won the Georgia Senate race.
The Pennsylvania was a flip for them.
They increased their Senate majority.
Why?
Because we're so worried about candidate selection and primaries.
We spent over $100 million, we being the conservative movement, on the Illinois gubernatorial primary to be able to lose 10 points to J.B. Pritzker.
Maybe instead of spending so much in primaries, it's a better idea to spend it on election integrity, fix our elections, signature verification, no more drop boxes.
Are we really robustly spending money on that?
Now, the counter argument is, Charlie, primaries are healthy to figure out what does the party believe.
Primaries are good to be able to have the debates of, are we going to be a uniparty moderate Republican party or are we going to be a base party?
Primaries are good to send a message to the Uniparty that the grassroots are in charge.
And boy, do I agree with a lot of that.
At the same time, it would be a shame.
It would be a catastrophe to have hundreds of millions of dollars spent on which horse is then going to go up against the Democrat well-oiled machine.
The RNC, of course, is not going to build the machine.
The RNC, which raises hundreds of millions of dollars more than the Democrat Party, spends about 40 to 50% of all the money that they raise on more fundraising.
They don't know how to build a machine, nor are they going to build a machine.
We're going to do our best at turning point action to try to build it.
But I look at this looming horse race.
I look at this primary, and I'm simultaneously concerned, and I'm excited.
I'm excited because I think that someone like Vivek Ramaswamy has a lot to say.
I'm concerned, though, that we're going to spend all this time and this attention on the primary that, of course, we're going to cover.
That, of course, we're going to try to find the ideological fault lines and certain people's arguments and perspectives.
And it's going to all be a waste of time, a waste of time for something that Donald Trump is already winning in.
You know, they're going to raise all this money.
They're going to have all these fundraisers and run all these ads.
And then Donald Trump will win with 54% of the vote instead of 61% of the vote.
And he'll still be the nominee.
And then will we have the infrastructure in Georgia, Arizona, and Wisconsin that is necessary?
Will we have the election integrity machine built?
I sure hope so, and I'm seeing no evidence of that.
I'm seeing way too much attention on the horse race, which Donald Trump is going to win anyway.
The most probable outcome for the Republican primary, Trump is going to even pull further ahead.
If that is true, then why have a primary at all?
In the sense of why do we engage in this?
Why don't we just call for all the candidates to drop out?
Trump is up by 60 or 70%.
Let's end this thing.
Is that the healthiest thing?
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The only counter argument is that primaries actually can make Trump a better candidate, more on message, more responsive to the base.
And we can have real debate about the issues that matter.
And it's just fun to clobber the Republican moderate uniparty.
Personally, I would find delight in that.
I think it's great.
It's fun to just see these Republican, good-for-nothing, Vichy French consultants, boom, lose by 60 points, even though they get rich while doing it.
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All right, the ad war is already starting, and I'm like, I'm like, geez, this is not helpful.
Where's the investment in Arizona?
Nowhere.
Where's the investment in Georgia?
Nowhere.
Where's the investment in Wisconsin?
Okay, so DeSantis is running ads.
Trump is running ads.
Play cut 20.
This is a Ron DeSantis ad against Donald Trump.
Play Cut 20.
Donald Trump is being attacked by a Democrat prosecutor in New York.
So why is he spending millions attacking the Republican governor of Florida?
Trump's stealing pages from the Biden-Pelosi playbook, repeating lies about Social Security.
Here's the truth from Governor Ron DeSantis.
We're not going to mess with Social Security as Republicans.
What did Trump say?
Entitlements ever be on your plane.
At some point, they will be.
We will take a look at this.
Trump should fight Democrats, not lie about Governor DeSantis.
What happened?
Donald Trump.
Never back down.
He's responsible for the contents of this ad.
So that's a pro-Ron DeSantis super PAC, not technically Ron DeSantis, but usually those things are done with winks and nods within kind of favorable circles because the ad war is just looming.
I mean, consultants are going to make tons of money on this.
You see, the incentive structure is that consultants want this race to happen.
I'm not a consultant.
I stand to gain.
All I stand to gain is more viewers and more downloads, I guess, if there's a primary.
I don't care about that.
I want my country back from these radical Marxists that are vastly out of alignment with actually how Americans view the world.
That's what makes me upset.
You know, I know what fires me up and I think fires you up?
Is that the people running the country do not share the values of the vast majority of the country?
Yes, there are elements of the fringe trans stuff.
There are elements of the earth worshipers.
The vast majority of Americans do not see their value system reflected in this current government at all.
Yet they keep winning, winning, in quotes.
And yeah, we're getting some emails.
Charlie, why don't you talk about election integrity?
My whole point is actually about election integrity.
Wouldn't it be more rational to say end the primary and go spend $250 million right now on election integrity in Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin?
Or would you rather have that money spent on an ad war?
Would you rather have that money spent on people shouting at each other and talking to each other?
There's ad after ad after ad.
Can you get some of the anti-DeSantis ads that I could show you?
Most Republican consultants is exactly the primary of the campaign is how most Republican consultants cash in.
Three years of famine, one year of feasting.
It is the harvest for the Republican consultants.
It's the same perverse incentive structure that we have in the military industrial complex or in the pharmaceutical industrial complex.
And some of these consultants are very nice people.
They're very sweet.
They're very smart.
Not all of them are dumb, but they're acting in their own self-interest.
So they're trying to recruit candidate after candidate because a competitive primary, quote unquote, even though it's not competitive, that's what's so hilarious about it, is that you have one candidate at 55, 60%, and you have all the rest at two, three, five, six.
And the other thing that is fuming this is that if you take the 1% of the Republican primary of the richest 1% of Republican primary voters, they're not very sold on Trump.
The wealthier you get on the Republican ladder, the less popular Donald Trump is.
There's a lot of reasons for this, one of which is just there is a style that Donald Trump embraces that is not exactly popular amongst upper echelon levels of Republican politics.
I hear frequently, Charlie, I hate the style.
I hate his bluster.
I hate his bloviation.
We got to win without this.
And that just seems to be a popular opinion in that group.
But they're not a majority of Republican voters.
But there's a lot of money to be raised.
If you want to go run against Donald Trump, you could be like Nikki Haley, who vastly overestimated how much money she raised.
Did she raise $11 million or $6 million?
I can't tell.
But Nikki Haley raised millions of dollars.
Asa Hutchinson will raise millions of dollars.
Mike Pompeo decided not to run, which I think is a signal that he doesn't see a path.
He's very smart.
There's not a path.
Mike Pence is probably going to run and he'll raise a bucket of money.
But for what?
What reason is this?
Now, again, the only counter argument, so Haley said she raised $11 million, but it was really $8 million.
What is the reason for this?
Besides consultants getting rich and future book deals and time on a debate stage, is this going to make America more free?
And the mission-critical question: is a long-drawn out, nasty primary that Trump will end up winning make us more or less likely to beat the Democrats?
Does a long-drawn out primary that Donald Trump is going to win make the party weaker or stronger to go beat the Democrats?
There is an argument to be made that Donald Trump against opponents gets stronger and he gets momentum because of it.
But I'm not seeing near the investment that we need to make in the early states to secure our elections so that we can defeat the Democrats.
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Okay, I want to play a piece of tape here.
Just to remind you of the kind of primary that we're heading towards.
Donald Trump is the best at this.
Is somebody really thinking they're going to go up against it at this point with the momentum?
And honestly, the indictments help him.
The more they try to go after him in the primaries.
Go to Cut 18, Donald Trump against Jeb Bush.
This is a tough business to run for.
You're a tough guy, Jeb.
And we need to have a leader that is really...
You're never going to be president.
You're not going to be able to insult your way to the business.
Let's see.
I'm at 42 and you're at 3.
So so far I'm doing better.
It doesn't matter.
So far I'm doing better.
You know, you started off over here, Jeb.
You're moving over further and further.
Pretty soon you're going to be off the end.
He doesn't do a thing to do.
It sounds like a lot of people.
It sounds more.
It doesn't matter if you like it.
It doesn't matter if you hate it.
It doesn't matter if it makes you cringe.
It's effective.
It's who he is.
At this point, I mean, again, every week it's getting worse.
And I know the Ron DeSantis folks, and they're not taking our advice.
We're trying to tell them.
We're like, hey, you guys realize you guys are not doing very well right now.
I don't think they agree.
You can try to go up against the buzzsaw.
And by the way, Ron DeSantis is a fabulous governor.
But Ron DeSantis against Trump on a debate stage, especially as the terrain has changed in the last month with the indictment and Donald Trump's relentless, ultra-aggressive campaign.
He's trying to destroy Ron DeSantis' campaign before he even gets out of the gate.
This is not about governing.
It's a primary race.
It's totally different.
It's a show.
And Donald Trump's good at that.
Cut 21, Donald Trump against Ted Cruz.
Play cut 21.
Right now, today, as a candidate, he supports federal taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood.
I disagree with him on that.
That's a matter of principle.
probably are worse than Jeb Bush.
You are the single biggest liar.
All right.
This guy lied.
Let me just tell you.
This guy lied about Ben Carson when he took votes away from Ben Carson in Iowa.
And he just continues.
This guy will say anything.
Nasty guy.
Now I know why he doesn't have one endorsement from any of his colleagues.
All right, John, I can tell you.
I don't think people realize how badly the conservative base wants an alpha male.
That plays into a lot of it.
They want someone who is strong and authoritative, not whiny or complaining.
They don't want someone that is just going to talk policy.
They want a fighter.
And part of that, it's more pathos and ethos than it is logos.
It's more that, man, that guy embodies the spirit to go up against the Chinese, to go up against any one of our enemies.
And Donald Trump knows exactly what he's doing in how he communicates from his mannerisms, his posture.
He's been on TV for 40 years, pretty good at it.
And so you got to wonder like what candidate can actually stand up to at this point.
And then so then it begs the question: is the entire process futile?
Or is it helpful to have Donald Trump just go obliterate people on the debate stage?
Is it helpful for him to say this is a waste of time?
I'm at 50 or 60.
I was a great president.
Is it helpful to the party to have Donald Trump attack from every direction?
Or is it healthy to have Donald Trump have to listen to the conservative base and recommit to a conservative grassroots agenda and have to answer legitimate questions about the vaccine and Fauci and Deborah Burks and Mark Milley and John Bolton and Rex Tillerson and Amarosa and Anonymous and The Leaker and Mitch McConnell's wife.
Should Donald Trump have to answer for those things, not answer for them on some sort of negative way, but give us some guarantees that in the next Donald Trump second term, that we're not going to have John Bolton, that we're not going to have people like Michael Cohen, that we're not going to have gutless wonders that are constantly acting like Judas, Cassius, or Brutus, people all around Donald Trump looking to knife him in the back.
That's a big concern from many of you.
Many of you say, Charlie, I love Donald Trump, but on the vaccine thing and on the personnel thing, I'm just not sold.
So maybe in a primary, we can get some guarantees.
Let's go to another piece of tape here.
As I remain concerned that this fight and the nonsense that's going to ensue, that is largely performative, the Democrats want that.
Is it possible the Democrats want a heated and expensive Republican primary while they build a lawfare operation in the three major states while they're registering more voters for the general election?
Are we doing that?
No, we're doing none of that.
Well, turning point action is, but the RNC is doing none of that.
It's a waste of time.
What they're doing, they're buying flowers in Nashville.
Evidently, they're trying to.
I'm going to show you the turning point flower budget in the break.
Get that picture for the next segment.
Turning point flower budget is really different than the RNC flower budget.
Very different.
I don't like this ad.
Apparently, it's effective.
It's Donald Trump attacking Ron DeSantis.
I don't like it.
It's kind of a disgusting ad.
Almost makes me want to hurl.
This is where we're headed.
Play cut 23.
Ron DeSantis loves sticking his fingers where they don't belong.
And we're not just talking about pudding.
DeSantis has his dirty fingers all over senior entitlements.
Like cutting Medicare, slashing Social Security, even raising our retirement age.
Tell Ron DeSantis to keep his pudding fingers off our money.
Oh, get this man a spoon.
I mean, I'm going to be very honest.
I don't love the fear-mongering in Republican primaries around Social Security or Medicare.
Current beneficiaries, I don't think anything should be touched.
But yes, there need to be some adjustments for future retirees.
And if you even say that, it's like the third rail, especially amongst Republican voters.
We get emails from you.
Charlie, I hate DeSantis because he's going to touch Medicare or Social Security.
Like, come on, guys.
That's not true, first of all.
It's just not, it's not a good attack.
Secondly, let's just get a little bit deeper than that.
That is a left-wing fear-mongering tactic.
I don't like it, but apparently it's effective.
I'm just saying, I'm just calling balls and strikes.
I'm just trying to tell you how it is.
Trump is running as a populist, and the ad is effective, I suppose, in that sense.
Someone says here, Charlie, Evelyn, Charlie, right now my biggest concern is Donald Trump's choice of staff.
What a disaster.
Is it helpful to have Donald Trump have to get some criticism about that?
Probably.
Because you look at the cast of buffoons that Donald Trump had surrounding him.
People say, I think he'll do better in 2.0.
Okay, well, I need to see some evidence of that, honestly.
Can you give us lists of people you'll hire as staffers the same way you did a list of Supreme Court justices in 2016?
I think that'd be very helpful.
Give us a staffing roster.
Make it public.
I would have Kash Patel as Attorney General.
I'd have Stephen Miller as senior advisor.
Like, okay, now we're talking.
I think that would be really great.
You have Lou Dobbs as communications director.
I mean, I'm just thinking off the top of my head.
And so we're quickly going into this Republican primary.
And I got to wonder, are we getting closer or farther away from being able to have what is necessary to win the only three states that matter, which is Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona?
How does that advertisement help us win Georgia, Wisconsin, or Arizona?
Maybe the Democrat Uniparty with the Republican moderates want a long primary.
Are the Democrats going to have a long primary or are they going to coordinate Joe Biden?
It doesn't matter because they already have.
They are currently spending the Democrats via Arabella Advisors and George Soros and Lorene Powell Jobs and Reid Hoffman right now.
Instead of spending money on primary advertisements, do you know what they're spending money on?
They're spending money on lawfare to make it easier to cheat.
They're spending money nonstop.
Every dollar the Democrats are raising are going towards a machine to win Arizona, Wisconsin, and Georgia.
Our side is doing none of that.
We're so focused on this race between the two of them, of which I think we all know the outcome.
So what is the point of it?
The only good argument is that Donald Trump will become a more conservative candidate and we can get answers that will satisfy us.
But quite honestly, can we do that without a primary?
Now, someone said, well, Charlie, what do you mean?
We're going to end the primary.
We're not going to have.
I mean, you just kind of call for candidates to go and it just becomes somewhat performative.
And then every money, every dollar that Donald Trump raises, the superb can go and say, let's go raise a billion dollars right now to go win the only three states that matter.
I said this before, and consultants hate it when I say this.
They hate it.
That you can win the presidency without Pennsylvania.
Ooh, they don't like it.
You know why?
Because the media markets in Pennsylvania pay very, very well.
To go place an ad in Philadelphia, it's one of the most expensive media markets in the country.
They don't like that.
You got to win Wisconsin.
You got to win Georgia.
You got to win Arizona.
You're going to win Iowa.
You're going to win Ohio.
You're going to win North Carolina.
You're going to win Florida.
The three states to victory.
Every single day that we talk about the 2024 race, I'm going to be a broken record.
I'm going to ask the question, what is the machinery?
What is the plumbing?
What is the infrastructure?
Is it getting put into place?
Are we raising the money to do that?
Are we hiring the ballot chasers?
Are we trying to fight for election integrity?
Are we raising hundreds of millions of dollars necessary?
The primary is demonstrating no.
And that bothers me.
It worries me.
Some of you say Donald Trump needs to be held accountable.
Donald Trump needs to be run up against.
Okay, every dollar that is spent in this primary is a dollar that the Democrats are not spending.
So we're actually, it's double as bad.
We're in a deficit a dollar, and they're up a dollar.
I make no friends when I tell the truth about the RNC, but you know what?
I think you guys want the truth.
You know how many people in mainstream media are bought and paid for by the RNC, in conservative media?
They've remained quiet on them.
They're getting paid a lot of money.
When you got $400 million, you could pay off a lot of people.
Okay, now one primary I do support, though, is Robert Kennedy Jr.
We're going to have him on the program.
We're going to ask him why is he running his questions?
Hopefully we'll have him on soon.
I hope he just does everything he can.
I don't think he's going to be.
I don't know how successful he'll be in the Democrat Party.
I have no idea.
The answer is probably not very because the Democrat Party is just so off the reservation.
But I support that.
Someone says here, freedom at charliekirk.com, Charlie, I love the primary.
It's entertaining.
It's good to see.
And I want Trump to win.
I can't wait to see him obliterate these other candidates.
Okay, I agree with the entertainment part, but that's a bad reason to have a primary.
There are other things that are entertaining in life that are probably not going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that we otherwise could be spending in primaries.
And so look, just to build this out, we are in a resource hunt.
We're in a world of limited resources, especially as conservatives.
We are outspent tremendously by the Democrats.
The Democrats are the party of oligarchs and plutocrats.
They have Soros, Lorraine Powell Jobs, Reid Hoffman, and that's just the beginning of it, right?
They have endless money.
They have endless resources.
They have a huge ability to do it.
So if we are in a situation where resources are limited, is it the best and highest use argument of our money, our resources, as a quote-unquote movement to spend on a mess?
Also, we need a coalition.
You don't want people who are bidder after a tough primary who respond by not voting.
And Donald Trump knows only one way forward.
He knows only one thing, which is to move forward.
And he's good at it.
And he is brutal.
And he could be cruel to his opponents.
And you do not want to get in the way of that.
No, instead, isn't it interesting?
You know, you read the New York Times.
We read it so you don't have to.
And they're loving the primary.
They're loving it.
They are covering the Republican primary almost more than we are, the New York Times.
Why is the New York Times covering it so much?
Why are they so interested in it?
Well, it's because I think they benefit from it.
The Democrats are stealthily under the radar, building a machine that's going to get them the electoral votes they need.
And you know, a lot of people say, well, Charlie, they're going to cheat.
Of course they are.
So why don't we spend our money to try to lobby state legislators in Georgia to fix the voting laws?
Why don't we go spend $100 million right now in lawfare in Wisconsin or Georgia?
Why didn't we go spend $100 million to go make sure we won the Wisconsin Supreme Court seat?
Oh, we didn't.
We were more focused on other stuff.
Why don't we go spend the money to go hire 1,000 Scott Presslers?
The money that is going to be spent on the Republican primary would be much better spent on hiring 1,000 Scott Presslers.
1,000 Scott Presslers would be a much better investment in the future of the Republic than advertisements about petty stuff.
I don't like it.
And yeah, I mean, people say, well, Charlie, what candidate do you support?
I've supported Trump.
I've said that repeatedly.
Of course I do.
He's a friend.
He's a great president.
He'll be a great president again.
I want him to become a great president again.
I want him to be president, not just the nominee.
I want to make sure that we are there at Inauguration Day in 2025, January 25, when somebody is going to put up their right hand and say, I solemnly swear I want that person to be someone who loves America, not bought by the Chinese Communist Party.
Because as soon as that person gets sworn in, if it is Donald Trump, within 24 hours, he'll have executive orders closing the southern border.
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He'll have the war in eastern Ukraine ended or on the way to ending.
He'll have the Chinese Communist Party held accountable.
The Founding Fathers gave us a gift.
The Founding Fathers gave us the United States Constitution.
The Founding Fathers gave us an ability to win the presidency without San Francisco, without Portland, without New York, without Chicago.
It's seven counties in three states: Fulton County, Cobb County, Maricopa Pima, parts of Yabapai, Kenosha, Waukesha, and parts of Eau Claire.
That's it.
We know the game.
Seven counties, three states.
The Democrats know this, which is why they're spending hundreds of millions of dollars in those states, making it easier to cheat, registering voters, finding voters to go run ads right now.
Demonize Republicans, demonize Trump.
Are we even playing in that arena?
Nope.
We're too busy doing this whole horse race.
This is a sign of the time.
If DeSantis gets into the race officially, the attacks will only ramp up.
All the more reason not to have a primary.
All the more reason to say, you know what?
We're not going to take your bait.
Asa Hutchinson, Nikki Haley, and all this, you guys can't get above two points.
Let's build a machine.
Let's make it so that they can't cheat.
We have ballot chasers.
We engage in ethical early voting.
We make it so that cheating is nearly impossible.
Just so you know, none of that is happening right now.
What is happening is a looming, nasty, petty personal fight.
And I don't think that makes it more likely for us to win.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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