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Biden Targets Catholic Priests
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| Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show. | |
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| We got a couple of those emails, but the vast majority said, no way. | |
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| Thousands and thousands of emails of stories of people saying that they're in the military and just not ready. | |
| Okay, joining us now is Congresswoman Mary Miller from the great state of Illinois. | |
| Congresswoman, welcome to the program. | |
| Tell us about this story here, Walter Reed, Catholic priests. | |
| There's a cease and desist order. | |
| Tell us about it. | |
| Well, this is a continuing story of how Joe Biden attacks regular Americans and his anti-Christian bias. | |
| Last week, while we were celebrating Easter, he decided to kick the priests out of Walter Reed. | |
| Now, these are priests who, for decades, have been ministering to our service members there. | |
| And why he chose Easter weekend to do this, and why he actually did this, we have no idea. | |
| I do know we are demanding answers. | |
| I wrote a letter to Biden, Millie, and Lloyd Austin, joined with 25 other members, demanding to know why they chose that weekend and why they kicked them out, and why they chose the secular for-profit organization to come in. | |
| And, well, we know they can't do what the priests do. | |
| The priests are ministering to the spiritual needs of the Christian service members there. | |
| So, just to understand this correctly, Catholic priests during Holy Week were not allowed to offer services to people at Walter Reed Hospital. | |
| Am I understanding that correctly? | |
| Not just last week. | |
| They were kicked out last week. | |
| Biden chose Easter weekend to do it, but he has barred them from going in now and given a kind of some kind of contract to a secular for-profit organization, probably some leftist, secular, anti-God atheists, to go in and minister to the Christian service members. | |
| So let me ask a question that might be a little, you know, just on the right forefront. | |
| Let's say someone's dying right now, Walter Reed, and they're Catholic and they want the sacrament of last rights. | |
| Are you trying to tell me the Catholic priests are not allowed in there to administer last rites right now? | |
| That's correct. | |
| Okay, I mean, that's so they don't even allow. | |
| So right now, the Biden regime is preventing even visitors that might be Catholic priests. | |
| So even if like a visitor, so if a Catholic right now wanted to do confession, take the Eucharist, have last rights, all of which are sacraments in the Catholic Church, they have to go through some sort of contracted secular organization. | |
| I've never heard of such a thing like this. | |
| Well, every day we wake up and wonder what our destroyer-in-chief is going to destroy next, but he is absolutely ticking at our foundations, the things that made our country great and strong, which is our faith and our families. | |
| And we have to fight back. | |
| Charlie, I appreciate you so much. | |
| I listen to your podcast. | |
| My children listen. | |
| I pass your name whenever I'm traveling the district, trying to get people to hear the truth on your podcast. | |
| Thank you. | |
| But things like this, the American people need to know how radical Joe Biden and his cabinet is, that they're weaponized the federal government and they're going after Americans are going after our faith and our families. | |
| Yeah, without a doubt. | |
| So then what's the next step? | |
| I mean, you've demanded answers from the Pentagon. | |
| Where do things stand? | |
| Well, we sent a letter, so we're going to have to wait till we get, you know, the answers. | |
| I know Senator Rubio is demanding answers for the Senate also. | |
| I mean, this is a pattern by the Biden administration in going after our faith, going after regular Americans, and now showing that they're going after Christian service members by denying them a basic First Amendment right is to exercise their freedom of religion, be ministered to by these priests. | |
| I mean, the priests and pastors have been with our service members through the darkest days and battles forever. | |
| And this is just insane. | |
| It is, but it's also part of a pattern. | |
| I mean, the Biden regime has infiltrated Latin Mass and is surveilling Catholics that are going to Mass, infiltrating Catholic churches. | |
| They're preventing Catholic priests from potentially administering sacramental services to people that might be dying. | |
| And Walter Reed, and for people that are not Catholic, I'm not Catholic, but just understand that in the Catholic church, there's a series of sacraments, including the administration of last rites, which is basically a religious service to somebody who is about to enter the next life. | |
| It's very important. | |
| So another question, I mean, they're not allowed for grieving services. | |
| I mean, so now there has to be a secular organization for religious. | |
| I mean, this thing wouldn't stand up in court in a minute. | |
| What do you think the Biden regime's intent is here? | |
| Okay, my opinion is, first of all, we remember when Barack Obama said he wanted to fundamentally transform America. | |
| And Joe Biden is Barack Obama's third term. | |
| To fundamentally transform us, they have to make us weak. | |
| And I believe that they are trying to make us weak spiritually, intellectually, socially. | |
| They're attacking, they're creating division among Americans. | |
| destroying the policies are attacking families. | |
| Families make people strong and in our relationships. | |
| And they also want to make us weak. | |
| They're trying to get us to eat bugs rather than beef. | |
| So it's just an attack. | |
| They're trying to transform us into a Marxist country. | |
| And I'm afraid that they are succeeding currently. | |
| Well, Congresswoman Miller, please stay on this. | |
| It's very scary what's happening. | |
| And it's hard to believe that right now, people at Walter Reed Medical, which is an Army medical center, just to remind people, okay? | |
| It was a flagship medical center. | |
| It's really incredible what they do there. | |
| There's about 5,500 rooms, and they are able to administer medical care to people that have been wounded in combat and people that are fighting, you know, with any sort of issues that might come associated with their service in our military. | |
| And just like all things, they're trying to make it increasingly secular and godless. | |
| Congresswoman Miller, thank you so much. | |
| You're welcome. | |
| Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here. | |
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| There's another person running for president. | |
| And no, I didn't mean Asa Hutchinson. | |
| We're not going to talk about him. | |
| That guy's a waste of time. | |
| Yeah, I don't know if you heard the breaking news in the last week and a half. | |
| Asa Hutchinson is running for the presidency. | |
| If only board members of Walmart voted for president, he still wouldn't win. | |
| I'm not really sure what Asa Hutchinson's constituency is. | |
| If lobbyists in Fayetteville, Arkansas, maybe, maybe Asa Hutchinson could win the presidency. | |
| But there is a serious contender that announced, someone I've always been on very good terms with, I certainly disagree with. | |
| He's more moderate than I would like, but I think he's a sweet person. | |
| And I think he has a great story. | |
| My greatest piece of criticism towards Senator Tim Scott is his criminal justice stuff. | |
| I just can't stand it. | |
| It feels like he's just trying to build bridges to Corey Booker, with Corey Booker for just the sake of doing it. | |
| However, he's pretty good on other issues, to be honest. | |
| Not great on Ukraine, obviously. | |
| Some people call him a rhino. | |
| Look, I actually think his story is actually really interesting and inspiring. | |
| He legitimately grew up in poverty. | |
| He believes in the American dream. | |
| And he's lived a lot of the ideas that we care about. | |
| He's a gentleman. | |
| He's very polite. | |
| He's always been very sweet to me. | |
| I mean that honestly. | |
| So, unlike some of the other scumbags that are thinking to run for the presidency, I have nothing but good things to say about him. | |
| And I wish him well. | |
| Obviously, I'm not going to support him in the primary. | |
| He's welcome on this show at any time. | |
| But I've always found him to be polite and honest and in it for the right reasons. | |
| And he's had every reason. | |
| And boys, he attacked from every direction. | |
| He is tarred and he's feathered and he is attacked and he's ridiculed and he's slandered. | |
| He's had every reason to try to become kind of a moderate or even a Democrat. | |
| But he really stands boldly and firm. | |
| Stands for school choice, stands for the excellence and the exceptionalism of America. | |
| And I think we're getting a tape here. | |
| I think he actually might have somewhat of a path. | |
| I mean, everything's just in the shadow of Trump, right? | |
| So, I mean, that's kind of where it's hard to say. | |
| Outside of Trump, he would have a very, very good shot. | |
| I mean, I think Trump's going to win the nomination rather convincingly. | |
| But here's a little taste of Tim Scott's announcement video. | |
| Again, I don't love everything he talks about. | |
| At times, I feel as if he's pandering to the left. | |
| Do we have it loaded? | |
| Ryan? | |
| Okay. | |
| Here is Cut 69. | |
| Once again, our divisions run deep, and the threat to our future is real. | |
| Joe Biden and the radical left have chosen a culture of grievance over greatness. | |
| They're promoting victimhood instead of personal responsibility. | |
| And they're indoctrinating our children to believe we live in an evil country. | |
| And all too often, when they get called out for their failures, they weaponize race to divide us, to hold on to their power. | |
| When I fought back against their liberal agenda, they called me a prop, a token, because I disrupt their narrative. | |
| I threaten their control. | |
| They know the truth of my life disproves their lies. | |
| It's a very powerful thing, I got to tell you. | |
| And as someone who, you know, understand, he has got a lot of corporate allies and stuff. | |
| You could do nothing but negativity. | |
| I'm actually going to lean into the positive here because I think it's necessary and it's earned. | |
| I wish he would have been more strong in 2020 during Floyd de Palooza. | |
| But what he's saying, again, I have pinpointed the five fake religions that are dominating American society right now, one of which is this cult of anti-racism. | |
| If Tim Scott is going to be outspoken against the lies of BLM, the lies of anti-racism, the lies of Robin DiAngelo, then God speed Tim Scott. | |
| We need more candidates that are going to get in the arena and push back against this venom. | |
| And here's what's going to end up happening: there's going to be a competition now for clicks and for likes and for views and for all that, which is actually a good thing. | |
| So the mainstream media's incentive structure is actually going to work positively. | |
| For example, Tim Scott's not going to be polling very well, right? | |
| Donald Trump's going to be at 50 or 60%. | |
| So Tim Scott is going to say, wow, we got to try to get some notoriety and some publicity. | |
| So Tim Scott will then go on Anderson Cooper. | |
| And Tim Scott will then go on and they're going to ask him about race. | |
| Like white upper middle class liberals that live on the Upper East Side in New York City are going to ask Tim Scott about race. | |
| Be like, yeah, actually, I grew up, if I remember his story correctly, to a single mother in North Charleston in a crime-infested area, and I've lived the American dream. | |
| So don't tell me America's racist is a decent country. | |
| That's a good thing to hear. | |
| That's a good thing for the public narrative. | |
| Again, I don't think he's going to be the nominee. | |
| He might be auditioning for vice president. | |
| Same thing I said about the VEC. | |
| I'll say about Tim Scott. | |
| This is a good thing to try to move the Overton window and show that we're a very substantial force as a party. | |
| That, yes, Donald Trump's going to be the nominee. | |
| I support him enthusiastically, but we got some stone-cold killers in our party. | |
| Some people with some great stories, our ideas, our principles. | |
| What we stand for transcends just a single person. | |
| I think that's a great threat to the left. | |
| And so I support him running completely and totally. | |
| That's not to say I support his candidacy. | |
| I support him getting into the race because of what he has to say. | |
| And in a world where we are teaching kids, you must be a Democrat if you're black, having Tim Scott as a senator is a good thing. | |
| And when I say stone-cold killers, I mean a metaphor, of course. | |
| I mean people that have great political instincts that can win. | |
| I'm thinking, see, media matters. | |
| We have talented people, a lot of talent. | |
| So, Tim Scott, we disagree on some things. | |
| You've always been very good to me. | |
| You're welcome on the show. | |
| Best of luck. | |
| And I think you could be very helpful in fighting against these Marxists. | |
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| Floyd Brown, welcome to the program. | |
| It's great to be with you. | |
| Counter Punch, tell us about your book. | |
| Well, the truth is, is that, you know, I run the Western Journal, and every day we're producing news. | |
| And what I tried to do was step back from that and look at the larger narratives that we've been having to deal with. | |
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Breaking False Narratives
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| And we've had, you know, a series of false narratives that have been shoved down the throats of the American people the last five years. | |
| I deal with all of those different narratives because they're all intended to make people feel powerless. | |
| And what I wanted to do was re-empower people, re-engage people so they could understand they can have real impact where they're at if they occupy the territory where they live. | |
| And so it's really a call to action to local action to get involved in school board races, town council races, sheriff races, you know, all of these key positions. | |
| There's over 3,100 counties in America. | |
| We should have over 3,000 of those in our camp. | |
| A lot of times we lose races, Charlie, because we just don't even show up. | |
| I totally. | |
| So 3,100 counties, that really, I mean, you take out the 10 biggest counties, right? | |
| Well, Maricopa is really important, but Cook County, LA, Boston, Philadelphia. | |
| Really, the majority of where America will be decided is on the county level. | |
| Why is it that the National Republican organizations are not focused on counties? | |
| Well, the first thing you have to learn about the Republican Party is that really Washington is governed by a uniparty. | |
| Okay. | |
| The Republican Party and the Democrat Party, at least in D.C., in their iterations, are just different sides of the same coin. | |
| And until you understand that, you really don't understand that a lot of the theater you see out of Washington, D.C. is just, it's fake. | |
| It's fake theater. | |
| And I like to call it kabuki theater because they talk against each other. | |
| And, you know, one side's... | |
| It's performative. | |
| It's performance. | |
| But then they all come together with these huge bills. | |
| And whenever they say bipartisan, that's when you need to watch carefully because you're about to get screwed over. | |
| And there's so many different examples of this, but we have a real recent one. | |
| And that is when Tucker Carlson showed one night of video footage from January 6th. | |
| The truth is the narrative around January 6th is a false narrative, the one that's been spun by Washington, D.C., that somehow Donald Trump was trying to have a coup or an insurrection. | |
| Overthrow the government. | |
| Yes, it's just such a false narrative. | |
| So we saw a little glimpse of the truth on Tucker in one night. | |
| What happens the very next morning? | |
| Chuck Schumer goes to the well of the Senate, denounces Tucker Carlson and Fox News. | |
| The next speaker is Mitch McConnell, who does essentially the same. | |
| But even after that, six other Republican senators come up and once again repeat this false narrative. | |
| And so we've got to break the back of these false narratives. | |
| That's one of the reasons why I appreciate your show, because you deal with a lot of those false narratives. | |
| I tried to deal with them in the book, but the false narratives are intended to make people feel powerless. | |
| And our founders gave us a wonderful Bill of Rights. | |
| And we need to claim the power that we have through that Bill of Rights in order to engage. | |
| And you can do it right in your local community. | |
| The book is excellent. | |
| I'm just reading through it, and it certainly hits to some issues we care about on this program. | |
| Alarming underreporting of vaccine side effects is in the book. | |
| The root of controversy over Ivermectin. | |
| You talk about a lot of the stuff you're not supposed to talk about. | |
| Yeah, right? | |
| I talk about all the things that I get canceled for talking about. | |
| And one of the big ones is the tyranny of big tech, which was my last book was called Big Tech Tyrants. | |
| But they help perpetuate these false narratives. | |
| And if America is going to come back together, it's going to require all of us getting involved. | |
| Every single person listening has to be involved. | |
| We all have to pull at the oar in order to save our country. | |
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Aggressive Grassroots Groups
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| In the realistic ideal, what does that look like for right now, the plumber in Jacksonville, Florida? | |
| He listens to our show. | |
| Hey, okay, I'm listening. | |
| What do I do? | |
| What is the realistic ideal? | |
| Involvement of engagement. | |
| Yeah, well, the first thing I would say is that he needs to get to know his neighbors again. | |
| Up here in the North Valley in Phoenix, there's a group called the North Valley Constitutional Conservatives is what they're called. | |
| And it was started by a guy named Basil Firminos. | |
| He was upset about mask mandates during COVID. | |
| He texted 50 of his friends with his phone to meet for coffee to talk about how they could fight against mask mandates. | |
| 250 people showed up. | |
| Since then, they've stayed active. | |
| They meet every other Monday night at AMPT Coffee Shop, and they are talking about how they can be involved. | |
| And then they're getting involved. | |
| They've been involved in school board races, legislative races. | |
| They're involved as precinct committeemen. | |
| They're involved as LD leaders. | |
| They are getting involved in the process. | |
| And it all started with one guy getting frustrated and texting 50 of his friends. | |
| So that's what the plumber should do. | |
| He should either find a group like this where he's living or he needs to start one. | |
| But organic and decentralized. | |
| Totally organic and totally decentralized. | |
| So, I mean, there's a role to try to run for LD chair. | |
| There's a role to be a precinct committee person. | |
| But the hope really is kind of in the spontaneity, right? | |
| 500 people there, 200 people there, 300 people there, a church group, a coffee group. | |
| Yeah, and I really focus a lot on church groups. | |
| You know, I'm a Christian, and I'm just so tired of the heresy inside the Christian church that says Christians aren't supposed to be involved in politics. | |
| No, when I become a Christian, Jesus governs every part of my life. | |
| That means he governs my job. | |
| He governs my family, but he also governs my government. | |
| Yes, that's right. | |
| And whether or not you vote and how your kids are educated and calling right from wrong. | |
| So you call it counter punch. | |
| So it's implied that they've punched us. | |
| And that is exactly right, obviously. | |
| And so how do we effectively counterpunch? | |
| And the subtitle here is an unlikely alliance of Americans. | |
| Tell us about the unlikely alliance. | |
| So I see coming together in this next election an amazing collection of different diverse groups. | |
| First of all, I believe black men are at a tipping point. | |
| Yeah, I agree. | |
| Black women, I'm not so sure. | |
| Black men, yes. | |
| Black men are at a tipping point. | |
| And I think that Donald Trump should go into the inner city and he should campaign. | |
| He should go to where they are and tell them, you know what? | |
| I know you know this justice system is rigged. | |
| I know it's rigged too. | |
| Look what they're doing to me. | |
| He now has something that he can talk with them about that could be a game changer. | |
| But also the trans thing is not popular in the black community at all. | |
| The trans thing is a upper, middle, upper-middle class, white liberal phenomenon. | |
| In the black community, the trans thing is not just deeply unpopular, it's ridiculed. | |
| Well, the trans thing is very demonic. | |
| Yes. | |
| I mean, it is right from the pit of hell. | |
| And, you know, it's child abuse. | |
| You know, I don't know how any demographic group could support what's going on. | |
| But you're right. | |
| It's not popular in the black community, but also the Hispanic community. | |
| Yes, that's right. | |
| It's not popular there. | |
| It's not popular with Asians. | |
| Asians have close, tight-knit families. | |
| Hispanics have the same. | |
| And this agenda of transgenderism is at its core, you know, basically rebellion from God, but it also is intended to destroy the family because it's destroying the very identity of men and women. | |
| And so let's talk more about the unlikely alliance. | |
| So you're talking about an alliance of black men, of Asians. | |
| And I believe that that is how we regain the country. | |
| We have to go to these areas. | |
| There's got to be, you know, we've got to go to black churches. | |
| We've got to go to Hispanic churches. | |
| We've got to go into these communities and occupy and be the solution for them. | |
| I think they're more open to our ideas than they've ever been. | |
| And so what other groups should we be thinking about? | |
| Not just racial groups. | |
| Are there religious groups? | |
| Are there, I mean, for example, like, you know, I think a missed opportunity in the 2022 midterms, you know, when Blake Masters was running for Senate, was that kind of early 30s millennial trying to buy a home? | |
| I didn't see a lot of messaging. | |
| There wasn't any messaging. | |
| And actually, I saw some really great polling recently about millennials. | |
| Millennials are open to our ideas, but we're not out there advocating. | |
| And so we have to get aggressive about going to different groups. | |
| Republicans are too insular. | |
| They talk to themselves. | |
| We've got to get out to other people. | |
| I mean, I know Turning Point does. | |
| And that's why I like the organization. | |
| That's why I like Turning Point so much. | |
| I'm going to be as fourth right on that because I don't take it personally because I know what we do. | |
| And when we go to a college campus, it's the opposite of speaking to. | |
| But I mean, look at this whole issue of transgenderism where they're literally stealing from women female sports. | |
| It's just beyond the pale. | |
| There's an interesting story with that, actually. | |
| I want to read this headline. | |
| It's a little side note. | |
| But the San Francisco State Athletic Director, I don't know if you saw this, came out and said that gender bias is at the root of the protest against trans-identified males in women's sports. | |
| Not the fact that men can compete, but she said it's gender bias. | |
| It's just amazing what they'll end up trying to blame. | |
| So the book is available now for purchases. | |
| Yes, right? | |
| It is, and it's actually doing really well. | |
| And I'm pleased. | |
| It will help people. | |
| get a plan to get involved and it will help them know what they can do to really make change. | |
| And I've poured 40, you know, one of the things is I've been involved in four wave elections. | |
| I was involved as a young man in my 20s in the Reagan Revolution. | |
| I was involved in 94 with Newt Gingrich in the contract with America. | |
| I was running Citizens United at the time. | |
| I spoke at hundreds of Tea Party rallies, and then I was involved in the MAGA movement. | |
| Those were four wave elections. | |
| And why weren't those successful at systemically changing America? | |
| And I believe part of it is the spiritual element. | |
| We have to have churches that are also interceding in the spiritual warfare. | |
| So it's got to be a twin operation. | |
| We can't just organize on the ground. | |
| We have to organize on the ground. | |
| But we also need to call the intercessors and the prayer warriors and the other people to be fighting in the spiritual context against these principalities that are over these different communities. | |
| Somebody says, Charlie, the country is done. | |
| It's over. | |
| No use in fighting your response. | |
| Oh, we have to fight. | |
| I mean, first of all, as a Christian, I'm called to fight and occupy until whatever day. | |
| So I mean, I have an internal guidance system that makes me want to fight. | |
| But no, this country is very, very winnable because our founders gave us all the tools we need to win this fight. | |
| What tools, especially? | |
| Because people feel demoralized. | |
| They feel as if they've captured all the institutions. | |
| Yeah, well, and they have. | |
| But, you know, I looked back extensively on the civil rights movement. | |
| You know, when Martin Luther King went into Birmingham and launched the bus boycott, you know, people didn't think he was going to be successful, but he did it peacefully. | |
| So, I mean, I believe that local officials have a right to resist unconstitutional rules from up above. | |
| So that's one of the reasons why I call for people to run for local office, because a local sheriff can protect us against bad gun legislation from above. | |
| And local officials have a right to really fight back. | |
| And we haven't been. | |
| And that's actually a Christian doctrine. | |
| It's called the doctrine of interposition, which means that we can stand as a lower level official or a lesser magistrate against people that are above us and fight back. | |
| And it's a duty we have. | |
| So, yes. | |
| So I want to talk more about the book, Counterpunch here. | |
| You really talk about how to do this. | |
| So the ever-growing list of cabinet positions, the administrative state, one of the great threats to our liberty. | |
| How do we go about restraining that? | |
| Well, I call for a massive restructuring of government. | |
| Basically, when we win this big wave election, I think it's coming. | |
| I'm more cynical than you are. | |
| Well, I think it's coming. | |
| I think the people are with us. | |
| I've not seen evidence of the machinery yet. | |
| Yeah, well. | |
| Because the RNC is a complete waste of rations. | |
| But anyway, that's a lot of the RNC will make us lose. | |
| But I have a strong belief in God, and I believe God isn't done using America yet. | |
| And so God is going to intervene. | |
| I hope so. | |
| And he intervened in 2016. | |
| I only think the reason Donald Trump won that election was because of God's intervention. | |
| And I think we're going to see another intervention. | |
| And so, yes, I think we're going to have a wave election. | |
| But when we have a wave election, what we have to do is restructure government. | |
| We've got to close the Department of Education, send all education back to the states. | |
| We've got to close the Department of Agriculture and send all agriculture back to the states. | |
| We've got to close, you know, why should federal land be owned all over the country? | |
| All that should go back to the states. | |
| Even the parks should go back to the states. | |
| Arizona can keep the Grand Canyon. | |
| Why do we need Washington, D.C. telling us how to keep the Grand Canyon? | |
| We do a great job of keeping the Grand Canyon right here. | |
| It's all very logical, and it will require an executive with the will to do it. | |
| But it's also in the Constitution. | |
| We have the 10th Amendment where the founders gave us this power. | |
| And so what we have to do is find people that will use that power. | |
| It seems overwhelming, but it can be done. | |
| No, it seems overwhelming. | |
| But once you hit a tipping point, Charlie, things can change dramatically. | |
| I mean, look at all the change that the Biden administration has forced down the throats of Americans. | |
| And yet they were just, you know, they didn't even barely barely won that race. | |
| I want to believe you, but if that was the case, the midterms, Kerry Lake would be governor, right? | |
| Well, but we still had problems with the elections. | |
| I mean, I believe Kerry Lake was elected governor. | |
| So, I mean, it hasn't been fixed. | |
| It's gotten worse. | |
| And it's gotten worse. | |
| You are correct. | |
| But we are making progress in that direction. | |
| We are seeing more about the Maricopa fraud than we've ever seen. | |
| I know. | |
| And I believe there will be changes. | |
| I hope so. | |
| The courts don't seem very willing to step up, though. | |
| Well, I don't think the courts will be the solution. | |
| I think it'll be the legislature. | |
| How? | |
| Katie Hobbs is governor. | |
| She'll veto everything. | |
| Well, but they have particular power based in the Constitution to oversee federal elections. | |
| The legislature does. | |
| And the legislature can do that on their own without. | |
| If we can get the Jeff Flake Republicans in the legislature to do that, that would be great because it's split 50-50, half for good, half. | |
| No, no, I mean, that's been a big, big problem. | |
| Yeah, no, no. | |
| I mean, until people understand that a major chunk of the Republican Party are part of the uniparty. | |
| I mean, back when I was young, I had a mentor by the name of Stan Evans. | |
| And I remember he said this to me in 1987 when I was still working in Washington, D.C. | |
| He said, you know, Floyd, we came here. | |
| We knew Washington was a cesspool. | |
| Now that we've been here a couple of years, it's kind of like a hot tub. | |
| And that's what happens to people. | |
| We send great people to Washington, D.C. | |
| And, you know, the first year they might make a little tiny compromise. | |
| The next year, a little bit bigger one. | |
| And then seven or eight or 10 years later, they wake up and they have literally become what they went to Washington to stop. | |
| Counterpunch by Floyd Brown. | |
| Any closing thoughts here? | |
| 30 seconds remaining? | |
| I'm very optimistic because I think we're at a tipping point. | |
| We are going to see this new coalition of Hispanics, blacks, and millennials that are going to come together and help us change this country. | |
| And I appreciate all the work you do to make that happen. | |
| We've got to make it happen, everybody. | |
| Check out the book, Counterpunch by Floyd Brown. | |
| I was just slipping through it. | |
| It's very well researched. | |
| And boy, lots and lots of footnotes here. | |
| Check it out. | |
| Counterpunch by Floyd Brown. | |
| God bless you. | |
| Thanks so much. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thanks so much for listening, everybody. | |
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