The Media Burns Down Camelot, and Dems Burn Down Chicago with Alina Habba
A Kennedy is running for president...and yes, Charlie is excited about it! Charlie breaks down RFK Jr.'s bid for the Democratic nomination, and what it says that the media's infatuation with America's de facto royal family has ended in favor of vaccine worship. Plus, Trump lawyer Alina Habba explains how New York's planned courtroom schedule is evidence of calculated election interference on the state's part, and Charlie reflects on how racialized politics has driven the destruction of his home city of Chicago.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Kennedy Questions Vaccines00:09:58
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I want to talk about somebody running for the presidency as a Democrat.
And no, it's not Marianne Williamson.
It's somebody that, quite honestly, I'm thrilled he's running for the presidency.
He's been a guest on this show.
We obviously disagree a lot politically.
But if I would have told you in the 1990s or early 2000s that a Kennedy was running for the presidency, I would guarantee you that 60 Minutes would do interviews and you would have these long documentaries on kind of the B-roll of John F. Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy and the hearkening back to Camelot.
And you would have a front page article on the New York Times and it would say, is Camelot back or Camelot 2.0?
Does the Kennedy legacy live on?
You know, for some of the younger viewers out there, and I never lived to this, but I've studied it, it's hard to even capture the media's infatuation with the Kennedys.
It was the American equivalent of the royal family.
They could do no wrong, even from Chappaquittic to the adulterous affairs that John F. Kennedy participated in as president.
I mean, they could do nothing wrong.
They would cover up for them.
They would lie.
They would mislead.
The Kennedys were, and they were supposed to be, the American ruling class.
It was the closest thing to American royalty that we have seen for quite some time.
And of course, tragically, you know, Joseph P. Kennedy, who was not a good guy, he was a bad person.
He had several sons.
His first son died at war, Joe Jr., if I'm not mistaken.
And then obviously, John Fitzgerald Kennedy became president and tragically was assassinated under mysterious and I believe, let's just say clandestine circumstances.
Bobby Kennedy also assassinated.
Ted Kennedy, who was a scumbag and really helped destroy the country legislatively and other ways, got away with his nonsense at Chappaquittic.
But Bobby Kennedy had a son, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has been an advocate for many decades of being a lawyer against overwhelming corporate interests.
Now, that's not really my thing.
I'm not always big into trying to sue every company.
I generally like markets and I like private property rights.
But Bobby Kennedy has decided to focus on a particular aspect of the machine.
He's decided to ask questions, figure out what's really going on.
He's decided to really put his entire career questioning whether or not the cartel of the pharmaceutical companies running our country is making us healthier.
That's basically his life's work.
His life's work, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., has been focused on the question of as we are now taking more vaccines, we are taking more pharmaceuticals.
We have more kids on antidepressants.
We have more kids on pharmacological addictive substances, more kids on benzodiazepines, more kids on Zoloft, more kids on Prozac, more kids on SSRIs.
We have more people taking medication than ever before.
Are we healthier?
That's basically his life's work.
And of course, he then talks about vaccines.
He asks questions about vaccines.
Are they safe?
Are they effective?
Are they necessary?
Are they causing other things in society?
And I don't take any strong opinions on that stuff.
I'm open-minded.
I ask questions.
I think it's interesting.
Certainly on the COVID vaccine, it's something that we spoke out about, and it's more of like an mRNA gene-altering shot.
But Bobby Kennedy has had the courage, I should say, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., to challenge the consensus.
And now this is so fascinating, everybody, where in the 1980s, if he was running for the presidency or the 90s or the early 2000s, the media would have done everything they possibly could to just platform him, to celebrate him.
The Kennedys are back.
Now look at how the media treats the Kennedys and how much things have changed.
Fascinating.
Play cut 63.
This just into CNN, anti-vaccine quack Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has filed paperwork with the Federal Election Commission to run for president as a Democrat in launching his presidential bid.
Kennedy is the latest in a long line of family members to enter politics.
So far, only Marion Williamson, who last month launched her second long shot campaign, has entered the Democratic primary against Biden.
Kennedy is such a healthcare menace.
In 2019, even his cousins wrote an op-ed criticizing his anti-science views on life-saving vaccines.
I mean, it's hard to even put into words just how silly that entire broadcast is.
Anti-vaccine quack.
I mean, he asked questions.
I don't know if my views are the same as Bobby Kennedy on every single vaccine.
I don't know, but he's willing to ask questions.
You see, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has a pretty solid argument that Jake Tapper would never err, which is this, which is why are we allowed to sue most companies, but we're not allowed to sue the major vaccine manufacturers.
Now, I am not saying this next clip is something that I agree with completely, but the question is actually legitimate.
It's a legitimate question.
Are you allowed to ask questions anymore?
No, CNN will smear you.
You know why?
CNN receives millions of dollars in advertising from Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson.
For those of us that watched March Madness or you watched some of the NFL football games a couple months ago, every other commercial was Pfizer, Paxlovid, and all these different drugs, or ask your doctor about Ozembic, enough.
We are, our propaganda channels are subsidized by the pharmaceutical companies.
And so if Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as a Democrat wants to try to build a movement asking the question, why are we taking so many drugs in our country?
God bless you.
Never thought I'd say that about a Kennedy because I'm not exactly a fan of a lot of things their family did.
But here's a question.
Robert F. Kennedy says, listen, autism has exploded.
He has an opinion as to why, but I think the question needs to be asked.
Play cut 64.
The vaccine schedule began exploding in 1989.
And you'll see autism four and a half years after the vaccine.
Oh, by 1995, we started seeing an explosion in autism.
And we went, you know, we've gone now from autism being one in 10,000 Americans to one in every 34 children.
So crazy.
It began exploding in 95, and the CDC itself said this could be the vaccines.
These women, the mothers are reporting it's the vaccines.
Other people are reporting, doctors, etc.
We're seeing it all over.
Let's look.
So, we don't know why autism has now increased so dramatically, but at least Kennedy is willing to ask the question.
We're just supposed to take it like, Yeah, it's perfectly normal.
It used to be one in 10,000, now it's one in 34.
Something changed.
Open for any ideas.
Does the media care?
No.
The CNN asked the question, no.
And they say, oh, it's just because they diagnose it more accurately.
That is garbage.
It's false.
Now, I'm not saying it's assuredly the vaccine, but I'm also saying, I'm not even willing to say that you can disqualify it, right?
I'm not saying you could prove it, nor can you disprove it, but it's worth exploring and pondering why is it that Americans, in America, we used to have a 1 in 10,000 autism rate, and now it's 1 in 34 in children.
That's worth asking the question.
What is causing it?
But do you know also why they hate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.?
He wrote a fabulous book called The Real Anthony Fauci.
He went right after Fauci.
He did it effectively.
He did it persuasively.
And so Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is now filing as a Democrat and more power to him.
If he's going to actually have a Democrat candidacy that could potentially get on a debate stage as a Kennedy going after the pharmaceutical companies, I mean, that is one of the most important presidential campaigns I think that could happen right now.
Forget all of his other issues.
You know, I'm sure he has perspectives on the, you know, gay marriage and abortion that I don't have and all this.
I don't, that's not the point.
It seems as if his life's work has been about asking the question: why is it the more drugs we take, we actually get sicker?
Probably an important question that no one's able to answer.
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So let's just talk about how this is going to impact the Democrat primary, which I find to be very interesting.
Whether Biden ends up being the nominee or attempts to be the nominee, he's going to have a challenge.
He's going to have a challenge from a Kennedy, not just the chakra woman, the yoga, the crystal person, the be one with the universe, the Gnostic Hermeticist, whatever thing.
You know, the just sit and meditate and get to a higher plane of existence.
Okay, great.
That's Marianne Williamson.
She's trying to become president.
Not going to happen.
By the way, Marion Williamson's welcome on this program anytime.
Mr. Kennedy is welcome on this program.
In fact, we're trying to book him.
I would love to have Joe Biden on the show as well.
Anybody running for the presidency is welcome on this show.
You'll get uninterrupted time to talk, and then we'll ask you tough questions.
And so, Bobby Kennedy Jr., by the way, we don't even know if they're going to hold debates, but this will at least create noise in the Democrat primary.
And noise is helpful, actually, because currently the Democrat Party is a Chicago-style Stalinist machine.
It's like the Borg.
Resistance is futile.
You cannot defect.
You cannot challenge.
You cannot question.
That's all Robert F. Kennedy Jr. does is question.
He's made a career out of it.
He says, why is it that way?
Why can't I sue?
What if so many kids have autism?
Can't ask that question.
You're anti-science if you ask why now one in 34 kids have autism.
Okay, well, maybe it's the vaccine.
Maybe it's not.
But what other explanation do you have?
We diagnose it better.
And that's not the only thing he talks about, by the way.
He talks about the deep state.
He talks about the unelected bureaucrats.
It's not the only thing that is part of his political repertoire.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is one of the most articulate and thoughtful political activists going after the administrative state in the fourth branch of government.
And I would say this right here: I would vote for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for president over Mitt Romney any day.
I would vote for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for president over Lady Graham any day.
Against Donald Trump?
No, I'd vote for Donald Trump, obviously.
But I think it's really helpful all of a sudden where you have a conservative that I am, and that many of you are, that we're saying, hey, there's somebody in the Democrat Party that even though we have fundamental political differences, that might actually be trying to go on a virtuous and a righteous crusade to fight for the forgotten man and woman to go after the administrative state.
Let me actually read this here.
He says this: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says, sounds better than actually Willard Romney.
Quote, if I run, my top priority will be to end the corrupt merger between state and corporate power that has ruined our economy, shattered the middle class, polluted our landscapes and waters, poisoned our children, and robbed us of our values and freedoms.
Together, we can restore America's democracy.
Okay, the polluted our landscapes and waters, I think, is a little overblown, but you got to do the environmentalist thing.
We could just say, okay, fine.
Don't like that use the word democracy, prefer it would be a republic.
But that's my only feedback.
The rest of it I love.
Shattering the middle class.
Heck yeah, that's what they've done.
Ruined our economy.
You better believe it.
Robbed us of our values and freedoms.
Yes.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is raging against left-wing fascism.
Good for him.
By the way, he's very open as to why his family members had to be killed.
He says that.
That's his words, not mine.
He's criticizing the corrupt merger between corporate America and the state, this creation of a new Leviathan.
So how successful will he be in the Democrat primary?
I have no idea.
But now that he's an active candidate, he's able to raise money.
He's able to ask questions.
He's able to build consensus.
As a Kennedy, he already has a built-in name ID advantage, obviously.
He's going to be able to go on television programs.
That'll be the question, though.
The media is only going to be able to ignore him so much.
Hilariously, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Running for the presidency as a Democrat will be much better received on conservative programming such as this one than left-wing programming because they're all purchased by the pharmaceutical industrial complex and they are cult-like believers in the fake religion of scientism.
One of the best aspects or one of the most important aspects of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s work is he is not a disciple of the religion of scientism.
He does not believe that we should seek out and change nature in our image.
He believes that unelected private groups of mad scientists can wreak havoc on a society and a civilization.
You see, he got his start as a plaintiff lawyer against corporate power.
I think some of those people are really bad actors.
I think some of those people do a good job.
But the fact that he's decided to wage a battle against the pharmaceutical companies, whoo, that is the third rail, the third rail.
You're not allowed to do that.
You are not allowed to ask questions against Pfizer, Johnson, and Johnson.
Just take your drugs.
Stop asking questions.
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This is a week that many people will not forget.
An indictment of a former president.
Joining us now is President Trump's attorney, Alina Haba.
Welcome to the program, Alina.
Thank you, Charlie.
How are you?
I'm doing well.
So I have several questions, but first, what is kind of the attitude the president has right now?
Give us some insight into his resolve, his, you know, where his head's at after this ridiculous indictment that we've seen come out of the Manhattan DA's office.
Sadness primarily for the country.
Definitely not for himself.
I think he keeps saying this is unbelievable.
This is unbelievable.
This shouldn't happen in America.
That's really a summation of where he's at.
In terms of spirit, he's so resilient, Charlie.
I mean, he did his speech.
He had dinner.
We all got up and, you know, saluted the flag.
And he's just patriotic through and through.
And this does invigorate him and make him want to fight even harder the more that they come after him.
Because like he says, they're not after me.
They're after you.
I'm just in the way.
And the way that they've come after him is very clearly a result of his political success.
So can you explain how on earth they're able to delay all the proceedings till December?
I mean, this is an extraordinary, this is obviously election interference.
And so is it really true the next hearing is going to be in December?
Yes, right before the Iowa caucus.
That's right.
So we have December.
We have a date in, I think they discussed having the trial sometime before the election.
And I could tell you, as somebody who has many other cases, as you know, that all of my cases seem to have this same timing urgency that I've never seen in New York courts, right?
So New York court system, I have some cases for other clients that I've been waiting two years on a motion to dismiss to get heard.
These are in the commercial division in the same courts, if not higher level courts than the ones I'm in for Donald Trump.
But if you're Donald Trump and you are in the middle of a campaign frenzy and you're ahead in the polls, they are timing them so that everything is done before 2024.
That's election interference, in my opinion, right?
It doesn't make sense to me that I have so many clients.
My practice is almost entirely New York, and I've never seen any cases move to be done, frankly, before 24.
I know it sounds like a long time, but if you think about it, and we have backlog for years in New York, it's actually not.
They're speeding them up so that they hit certain pivotal points in the campaign.
So I want to play a piece of tape here.
I'm just confused how on earth you could say that the indictment is about covering up a crime, but you do not mention what the crime actually is.
It's Kafka-esque.
You're on trial.
We can't tell you what you're being charged with.
It's a dialogue between this reporter and Alvin Bragg.
It's a longer clip.
I want to play this and then have your reaction.
Play Cut 48.
And they were done to conceal another crime, but the indictment does not specifically say what those crimes were.
We are assuming, perhaps, that they might be election related.
I wonder if you can specify what laws were all struggling.
So let me say as an initial matter, the indictment doesn't specify that because the law does not so require.
The first is New York state election law, which makes it a crime to conspire to remote a candidacy by unlawful means.
But why weren't there those crimes charged?
Why weren't we charged with those crimes?
Well, I'm not going to go into our deliberate process on what was brought.
The charges that were brought were the ones that were brought.
The evidence in the law is the basis for those decisions.
How is this possible?
Have you ever seen an indictment where you say it's a covering up a crime?
We can't tell you what crime?
How about New York state election law?
Elections of presidents are governed by the FEC and federal, federal law.
So the FEC already looked at this, already determined years and years and years ago that this was a null issue.
There was no case.
The federal prosecutors looked at this and decided there was no case.
Alvin Bragg did not put details because the details would likely show that this is the exact same case that was debunked twice over seven years and that it is politically motivated.
That is what I hear.
And I've never heard, look, I'm not a body language expert, but I can tell you that when somebody speaks with a lack of confidence, it's very evident and clear.
And that's what I saw when I watched that press conference.
It's extraordinary.
And so I want to just zero in on something, though.
The timing.
Who do you think is actually then coordinating the timing?
And is there any way to push back against this?
Is there any way to challenge it?
Yes.
There are ways to challenge it.
Unfortunately, I've hit these roadblocks myself.
You know, it's incredibly difficult to get a fair hearing in the state of New York when you represent Donald Trump.
I've had some success, shockingly, but it's difficult.
And politics is 100% influencing some of our benches.
It scares me as an attorney.
It scares me for my profession, but it really scares me as an American.
So what we need to do is, you know, and I can't divulge any privileged information in terms of strategy, but we have a very strong team.
They know what they're doing.
There are motions and avenues that need to be made at the appropriate time.
They will be made.
But as of now, you know, the first decision in terms of timing just seems way too coincidental.
Yeah, it's not just coincidental.
It's nefarious and it's intentional.
And so my fear now is that there's going to be other kind of just ridiculous prosecutions.
Do you have any insight into the latest movements of DOJ, Jack Smith, or Georgia, Fulton County?
Yeah, any insight I have would be privileged and I can't really talk about that.
I can tell you that I have the same concern that you do.
I think that we are, you know, use my client's word in a witch hunt.
This truly is a witch hunt.
It's madness.
It's maddening.
There's real crime happening in all these states, but most importantly, New York.
We have a situation where people with DUIs, it used to be 5% dismissal rate.
Now we're at 50-something percent under this DA.
But his entire speech was that he takes crime seriously, record-keeping crime.
And he had to spend the better part of his speech actually, Charlie, going through and explaining how many times he prosecuted people for business records because his case is so ridiculous.
So let's see.
I hope that this will look the reaction of the American people should really make people think twice about bringing weak cases for the sake of politics.
And I hope that that permeates through some of these other cases.
It is for the sake of politics.
And I want to play another longer piece of tape here about Rush Limbaugh predicting this.
He said they're going to try to do everything they possibly can to use power to destroy the political strength of Donald Trump.
Play cut 53 of the great Rush Limbaugh.
One of the last pieces of commentary he did, he did before his death.
I know they desperately want Trump gone, and I know that they desperately want it codified that Trump cannot run again, because make no mistake, they remain scared to death of you and they remain scared to death of Trump.
Trump 75 million, 80 million votes.
And I'm going to tell you, you're not going anywhere.
Even if Trump does, you're not.
They can't separate you from Trump.
And more importantly, they can't separate you from the ideas.
They can't separate you from MAGA.
They can't separate you from Make America Great Again, which I think remains one of our big campaign strengths going forward.
They believe that they can destroy this bond that exists between you and Trump if they somehow make Trump look bad, make Trump look like a reprobate, embarrass you about Trump.
They can't do it because you came before Trump.
Alina, closing thoughts.
The great Rush Limbaugh predicted this, your reaction.
He predicted it.
And more importantly, I take it a step further.
I mean, Rush Limbaugh is dead on accurate, but what we are seeing right now with the movement with, you know, he always says MAGA is Make America Great.
It's not a cult.
It's a movement of caring about this country and being scared of what's happening to the country.
So I'm with Rush.
They can't really, they can persecute and push him, but it's only making the base and not just the base, new people come into this Make America Great movement in terms of caring for our country, protecting the Constitution and the judicial system.
There just shouldn't be selective prosecution.
There shouldn't be persecution of a candidate.
This is third world stuff.
And I think he called it right.
But hopefully if we fix our elections, if we get things in order, we'll be able to fix this and stop this in 24.
I pray.
Alina, keep up the great work.
Hope to have you on soon again.
Thank you so much.
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I want to play a piece of tape here.
This is how they're reacting to this.
Everything with the left is race, which is a great segue to the decline of my hometown, my home city, Chicago.
Everything's about race.
Race is a veneer.
The idea of race is to try to distract you.
Keep your eye off the ball.
This is MSNBC, white guilt liberals living a miserable existence.
This is how sloppy, how one-dimensional, how shallow their thinking is.
Play cut 56.
And it may or may not be coincidental, but both the DA and the judge are people of color, or the judge, as Judge Kiro was, was ethnically Hispanic, I believe, Latino.
And of course, the DA is black.
So they have certainly become targets of his in any case and their families.
I mean, this is just so outrageous.
As if Donald Trump does not attack or does not criticize people that are also white.
Peter Struxtras, Merck, James Comey.
I mean, give me a break.
Michael Cohen.
This is just the resorting back to sectarianism and tribalism is so damaging to our republic.
Makes people act in strange and bizarre ways, neurotic ways.
Okay, there was some disappointing news, obviously, this week in Chicago.
I had a glimmer of hope.
You know, they got rid of Lori Lightfoot, and I thought maybe they would put Vallis in.
And Vallis is a reasonable guy.
He's a Democrat.
He wanted to increase funding for the police, public safety, but he lost.
The next mayor of Chicago is a Marxist by the name of Brandon Johnson.
Brandon Johnson, endorsed by the Chicago Teachers Union.
Brandon Johnson was endorsed by all the left-wing socialist working organizations.
He has said before he wants to defund the police.
He does not care about public safety.
He'll be owned and operated by all the same special interests in Chicago.
He's worse than Lori Lightfoot on paper.
Now, will he actually be technically worse than Lori Lightfoot?
I have no idea.
But he ran the race card.
That's what he did.
He said, oh, yeah, we need a black mayor.
As if that matters.
It doesn't matter what the skin color is at all.
And he says, look, I want to build a stronger Chicago.
Just listen to how ridiculous this is.
He says, and I will take it from all of us, from working families to immigrant families to our LGBTQ siblings to people in all corners of our city to work and be partners for the change that we need.
He's a revolutionary Marxist.
And it really makes you wonder.
It makes you think and wonder, why did Chicago do this?
Why did Chicago reject a rational and sane voice of Vallis, who would have increased funding for the police and would have pushed back against the teacher unions and not been radical when it comes to economic policy?
Why did they go to the direction of Brandon Johnson?
And it seems as if the emerging secret sauce is you run somebody who's black, who has ideas like Bernie Sanders, and you just run on a pure race politics campaign.
You get all the socialist type energy, plus the self-hating whites, plus the ethno-narcissists.
And then they just outvote ordinary people who are desperately trying to stop Chicago from sliding into oblivion.
It's really a tragic series of events.
And Chicago has decided, and it pains me.
I love Chicago.
I love Illinois.
I love what it was.
By electing Brandon Johnson and removing Lori Lightfoot and replacing with this maniac, they're just saying, like, yeah, we don't care.
We're going to become a third world city.
And it's already on that way.
Mag Mile is obliterated.
People are leaving Chicago in, you know, record numbers, record rates.
And they just don't seem to care.
The people of Chicago want to continue to commit suicide.
Chicago is now going to continue its downward trajectory in an unrecognizable direction.
It's so sad.
It's so tragic.
And they don't, it doesn't bother them for them.
It's all about political power.
It's all about control.
I mean, I did an event at University of Illinois Chicago.
We had a packed house.
We had a lot of people there.
And we had some great conversations.
And people knew they were losing their city.
Chicago used to be one of America's and the world's greatest city.
Now it's just a joke.
It's a joke for crime.
It's a joke for, and Brian Johnson, he doesn't talk about putting black fathers back in the home.
He doesn't talk about stopping black on black crime.
No, it's all about like fighting white supremacy.
Oh, really?
Where's the white supremacy in Chicago?
It's really interesting and it's sad and it's tragic and it is telling.
It's telling the power of the cult of diversity and the religion of anti-racism and the religion of diversity, equity, inclusion.
Chicago is one of many cities that were once great.
San Francisco has also completely fallen apart.
And tragically, yesterday, a really wealthy guy in San Francisco who was a BLM supporter, and it's too bad he died by the sword that he defended.
It's really too bad.
BLM, anti-police type guy, Bob Lee, no one deserves this type of punishment.
He was killed.
He was stabbed in San Francisco.
The founder of the Cash App, tech executive, wealthy guy, stabbed to death in San Francisco.
I don't know if they've arrested who did that yet.
And so San Francisco's unrecognizable.
New York is unrecognizable.
Chicago's unrecognizable.
And they're doing it to themselves.
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Historians are going to look back at this and they're going to scratch their heads and they're going to say, why is it that people wanted the place that they live to become crummy and crappy and awful?
Why is that?
Why is that people are continually going in the direction?
Why did the most powerful nation ever squander its wealth and its property so quickly and willingly?
A historian 100 years from now will write, why didn't they fight harder?
Why didn't they care more?
Why did they go along with this?
And they'll write it probably in Chinese, by the way.
Some Chinese historian will write, why did America, which was so strong, decide to be weak?
These idea pathogens that we've been fighting, they have significant geopolitical implications.
And it's just tragic.
The once great city of Chicago made a decision to be weak.
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