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Vinman's War Profiteering Pitch
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| All right, guys, huge hour. | |
| This is Jack Pasobic here with Charlie Kirk. | |
| We together break down this huge scoop from humanevents.com regarding Alexander Vinman profiteering off of the Ukraine war. | |
| I know such a shock. | |
| Then we're going to get into Treehouse Antifa and Cop City, this paramilitary attack that went on down in Atlanta and the fact the media refuses to talk about it. | |
| Buckle up for everybody. | |
| Here we go. | |
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| Jack Pasobic is my co-host for the full hour. | |
| Just kind of build out a little bit more. | |
| How did you obtain these documents? | |
| Alexander Vinman is pitching the Ukrainian government in time of war for something he would obviously make a lot of money off of. | |
| Why is this significant? | |
| Well, Charlie, this is significant because we've received a briefing that was conducted in September of 26th of 2022 from Alexander Vinman, Yevigny Vinman, his twin brother, as well as an individual named Stephen M. Anderson, called the Ukrainian Weapons Systems Sustainment Center Concept Overview. | |
| Now, there is a company that Vinman and his brother have set up called Trident Support as a defense contractor. | |
| What they are trying to do, so Charlie, you remember this, that the big fight, and Vinman was out there all last year saying we need to send more tanks to Ukraine, more tanks, more weapons, bigger tanks, bigger weapons, bigger bombs, bigger missiles, airplanes, aircraft, and not just the old Soviet stuff. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| We need to send the American stuff. | |
| We need to send the high top shelf kind of equipment over to Ukraine. | |
| Well, while he was doing that publicly, the same individual, Alexander Vinman, who played a massively outsized role in destabilizing the relationship between the United States, Ukraine, and Russia, on the back end, what was he doing? | |
| When he wasn't on MSNBC demanding that tanks be sent over, he was pitching the Ukrainian government to give him a contract, a defense contract for millions of dollars, up to $12 million just to get started. | |
| To do what? | |
| He wanted to create a maintenance and logistics center to be staffed, not, of course, by him. | |
| You know, he's never actually put on the uniform and gone over to join the volunteer forces here. | |
| No, Vinman wants the contracts to get the money from the middle, which is, of course, underwritten by the United States government, which is obviously underwritten by you, the taxpayer, the American people, because he wants to put these logistics centers for those American American tanks, those American vehicles, that American equipment. | |
| He wants the maintenance contracts for it, Charlie. | |
| It's a grift. | |
| Yeah, and I just started the war and he wants to profit off of the same war he started. | |
| I think it's really important. | |
| I want you to remind our audience how he started this war because that's interesting to me. | |
| But, Jack, can you actually do that first? | |
| And then I have a second thought about war contractors that I think is an undercovered wrinkle of this whole situation. | |
| But please, how did he start this war? | |
| Sure, very quickly, you know, the too long didn't read version summary of this is that when we had this phone call between President Trump and yes, the current president of Ukraine, President Zelensky, who said at the time that President Trump did nothing wrong on this call, President Trump, of course, came out and said it was a perfect phone call, a very perfect phone call. | |
| We had the transcript of the call was finally released. | |
| We didn't see any of this. | |
| Yet people like Vinman and people like his friend, the whistleblower, CIA operative Eric Cheromella, worked to provide what they called testimony evidence against President Trump, which led to his first impeachment, only the third impeachment of a sitting United States president in American history. | |
| They claimed that he was trying to use monetary leverage against Joe Biden for the delivery of these javelin missiles and other systems, while President Trump, and you go back to the call, what was he asking about? | |
| He was asking about the firing of the general prosecutor of Ukraine by the previous administration. | |
| This was prior to Zelensky. | |
| The guy was named Boroshenko. | |
| President Boroshenko was actually a rival of Zelensky. | |
| Not to get super into all that, but Trump was asking about this speech that Biden had given where he admitted to leveraging a billion dollars in IMF loans for the firing of this general prosecutor and the fact that it seemed like this general prosecutor might be investigating companies like Burisma that Biden's son, Hunter Biden, was obviously involved in. | |
| And so Trump was asking President Zelensky to look into that. | |
| He said, what's going on with that? | |
| Obviously, you got Biden out there talking about it. | |
| Zelensky says he'd be more than happy to. | |
| Vinman and Charomella and a whole slew, a cast of characters, a rogues gallery, came out and launched an impeachment of President Trump, a sitting operation that was done by the, led by the intelligence community and the State Department against Trump, which was one of the first parts in a two-part, two-phase color revolution that was used throughout 2019 and 2020 to remove President Trump from office. | |
| So just who is, is this his brother, Yev Jenny Vinman? | |
| Yeah, Yevigny. | |
| So that's his twin brother. | |
| Got it. | |
| Okay. | |
| Who is no longer in government either? | |
| They both left? | |
| As far as I know, they both left. | |
| I hope so now. | |
| He's able to be on a pitch. | |
| Right. | |
| But what I find is interesting about this. | |
| He could be like a reservist or something like that. | |
| Jack, I don't want to have you violate your sources, but what I find interesting about all this is just an insight. | |
| I actually can tell you how I got it. | |
| Okay, well, then tell us. | |
| All right. | |
| So obviously I can't give the name, but the way I got that is that Vinmin and Yevigny were reaching out to lobbyists in Ukraine, reaching out to a law firm, but it turned out they stiffed them on the bill when all of the work didn't go through. | |
| So Vinmin refused to pay. | |
| The Ukrainian government apparently didn't take the deal after all, because I think they probably rightfully realized how big it would have gotten. | |
| So they stiffed their lawyers that were supposed to be setting up the deal, and the lawyers got ticked off. | |
| And let's just say now the documents are here on the Charlie Kirk show. | |
| I find it interesting because for a variety of reasons, but just to see the sloppiness of the pitch deck, was this a draft or was this a submitted copy of so Charlie? | |
| Believe it or not, this is completely in line with the defense contracting community. | |
| This is exactly what I'm saying. | |
| Jack, I could not, if I presented something as juvenile as this, I wouldn't raise a dollar at turning point. | |
| It's like, give me money. | |
| Big war. | |
| Bad. | |
| Yeah, this is inside the U.S. Army. | |
| You see stuff like this all the time. | |
| You see this in the Navy, but you know, I will be a little bit, you know, inter-branch rivalry there that I've seen army briefings that look like this all day long. | |
| This is very much something that looks like an army PowerPoint that's put together by a PowerPoint officer. | |
| Like, and that's what Dinman was. | |
| He was a PowerPoint guy. | |
| He was not exactly a frontline infantry officer, you know, going to preparing to fight the Russians. | |
| And of course, if he was, he'd be there right now. | |
| No, he was a PowerPoint officer, and this is exactly in line. | |
| In fact, I showed this to a few defense contractors, aka Beltway bandits that I know here in DC. | |
| And they said, yeah, that looks exactly like any other, any other contract that we'd see. | |
| And it's silly, right? | |
| You know, he's saying Ukraine is far from Poland. | |
| I know. | |
| Look how far it is. | |
| It's this so many miles. | |
| I mean, it's look at this big line. | |
| It really makes you wonder the lack of sophistication of some of the appropriation of dollars that our taxpayer dollars go towards. | |
| I mean, you just have these people come in, give money to Ukraine treasury. | |
| Because, Charlie, here's the thing. | |
| Like, in your world, and I've been and I've seen some of the turning point the pitches. | |
| I've been at some of the meetings. | |
| Yeah, those are very sophisticated. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Because people are asking, you know, what's my ROI here? | |
| These are, these are smart people. | |
| They're going to say, what's my ROI? | |
| Why should I give the turning point? | |
| Is this going to do something for our country? | |
| Is it going to move the needle or not? | |
| Because I don't want to just, you know, give a bunch of money to Charlie Kirk and let him, you know, go have fun with it or whatever. | |
| But in this situation, when you're dealing with the U.S. government, if you have the in, if you have the Rolodex, if you have the right name, if you have the right juice behind your contract, it don't matter, Charlie. | |
| The pitch deck isn't what matters at the end of the day. | |
| Now, what's interesting to me, though, is that you're exactly right. | |
| That apparently he thought that he was good to go because he thought he was gravy because all of his juice right now is in the United States. | |
| But it turns out that, and I haven't quite gotten this story yet and I'm working on it. | |
| It turns out the Zelensky regime apparently isn't too fond of Mr. Dinman right now. | |
| And I find that very interesting. | |
| Yeah, I wonder why. | |
| So just we only have about 50 seconds remaining here, Jack. | |
| But can you just tease the audience a little bit? | |
| There's probably no exaggeration, hundreds of these amateur pitch decks floating around. | |
| They're all over the place. | |
| And here's the thing: people need to go to humanevents.com to understand what this is, to see it when they've come across it or something like it. | |
| But you also have to understand that if this was gone through, he would have had to register as a foreign agent of Ukraine. | |
| Anybody would have. | |
| So Viman, of course, who was once offered the position of the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, would finally be a foreign registered agent. | |
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Strong Cell Anti-Aging Secret
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| It's really an amazing thing. | |
| We just got to keep repeating and remembering so much of our domestic politics goes through Ukraine. | |
| Why? | |
| So much is driven by money. | |
| So much. | |
| Why is it a country 5,000 miles away should dictate and determine so much of what we do here? | |
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Antifa Terror Attack Exposed
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| Okay, Jack, you wrote the book on Antifa, literally, and a story that's really bothered me that we have not explored in depth yet is the sophisticated multi-part amateur military operation that bombed the construction site of the police training headquarters in Atlanta. | |
| Jack, what do we know about this attack? | |
| What was the damage that was done? | |
| And most importantly, who did it? | |
| Well, Charlie, this really is tremendous. | |
| And I think people on the right need to wake up and take notice about Antifa. | |
| That's why I wrote Antifa, a story from Inside the Black Block. | |
| It came out two years ago. | |
| I talked about infiltrating Chaz out in Seattle when that took place. | |
| But I also went back into the history of Antifa, their rise through Weimar Germany, their rise through the 1930s, a period of destabilization, which they contributed to, by the way. | |
| They'll lie about that today. | |
| The Spanish Civil War, the Bolshevik Revolution. | |
| I get into all of this. | |
| But Charlie, what we have down here in Atlanta is a situation where when we were told, you know, we're told in the media, we're told in the press, 23 protesters arrested by police and left-wing sources are out there saying this. | |
| Go and watch these videos because we've got FLIR video from overhead drone imagery. | |
| That's infrared. | |
| If we're looking infrared, FLIR of a crowd that looks to me like 50 to 60 strong in a coordinated attack spilling forth from the woods at a police training facility outside of Atlanta, Georgia. | |
| This is run by the Atlanta Police Department. | |
| Now, Charlie, you remember as well as I that it's the left that is always saying the police needs to be better trained. | |
| It's always the left saying the police should have, they should have shot him in the arm. | |
| They should have tried de-escalation. | |
| They should have tried everything else. | |
| Well, the police said, okay, fine, we're going to go into the woods and set up a training facility and we're going to do just that. | |
| Well, Antifa is now attacking it. | |
| And people want to laugh about the left using violence. | |
| The people want to say, oh, well, they're not that great at it. | |
| Oh, they suck at it, et cetera, et cetera. | |
| Guess what? | |
| They're actually out there doing it because they have something in their movement that I don't always see on the right. | |
| And that's called moral clarity. | |
| They actually and truly believe in the violent actions that they are doing. | |
| And I'm not saying the right should ever condone violence, but my point is the right needs moral clarity in our positions and in our values if we were actually going to fight to take back this country. | |
| These are the people who fervently believe in destroying our country, tearing it down because they hate the people that run the place now. | |
| They hate the people who founded it. | |
| They hate our institutions and they'd hate the West. | |
| And it's as simple as that. | |
| You don't need all of the philosophy and ideology to understand. | |
| They just hate you and they want to take away everything that you have. | |
| Yeah, but do we know who the ringleader of this was? | |
| This was a domestic terror attack. | |
| So the ringleader. | |
| This was a domestic terror attack. | |
| We don't know specifically who the ringleader was yet, but they call themselves hashtag Stop Cop City. | |
| This is a group that we've referred to as Treehouse Antifa at Human Events. | |
| And we do know that one individual whose name popped that we've not seen before was a guy named Tom Juergens, who it turns out is a staff attorney for the Southern Poverty Law Center, a young staff attorney. | |
| Now, the Southern Poverty Law Center responded to this. | |
| And this, by the way, Charlie, is not the first domestic terrorist attack that the Southern Poverty Law Center has been connected to. | |
| They were also connected directly to the mass shooting at the Family Research Council in Washington, D.C. in 2012, committed by Floyd Lee Corkins, who used the Southern Poverty Law Center's heat map or their hate map to target this organization. | |
| So now a Southern Poverty Law Center employee, a staff member and a staff attorney claims that he was a legal observer who was merely observing the event and didn't want the police to break the law. | |
| Well, Charlie, the term legal observer is made up. | |
| That doesn't exist. | |
| And guess what? | |
| Just because you have a law license and you are a member of the bar does not mean that you are allowed to participate in crime the last time I checked. | |
| This is the exact same defense that those two Molotov cocktail throwing lawyers tried up in New York City during the George Floyd riots, and it didn't quite work out from them. | |
| So this individual, Tom Juergens, again, a staff attorney for the Southern Poverty Law Center, has been someone that is directly connected with this domestic terror attack. | |
| And something that I would urge, by the way, Jim Jordan and in general, the House Republicans to look at very closely is what level of pre-planning and pre-knowledge did the Southern Poverty Law Center have in this attack? | |
| And by the way, Charlie, you asked about the specifics of the attack. | |
| They were attacking police officers directly. | |
| They were setting fire to the facility. | |
| They were throwing firebombs. | |
| They were using Molotov cocktails and other improvised explosive devices. | |
| They were setting fire to factory equipment, to construction equipment, to backhoes, to excavators, to trailers. | |
| They were burning documents. | |
| They were trying to do everything they could to stop this police facility from being built. | |
| Obviously, this, by the way, is a direct attack on a government facility, a direct planned, coordinated attack, not January 6th, which was a completely out-of-control situation, which is increasingly looking like it was provoked by federal actors. | |
| This was a direct attack on local government policy. | |
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| Let's place a piece of tape here. | |
| This is the Fox Report Play Cut 27. | |
| The Atlanta Police Department is describing Sunday's clash with protesters as a coordinated attack against law enforcement. | |
| In this video, released by the Atlanta PD, you can see things get violent pretty quickly at the site of the $90 million city-proposed police and firefighter training facility, often referred to as Cop City. | |
| You see protesters, many dressed in black, many with their faces covered, throw large rocks, bricks, fireworks, and Molotov cocktails at police, some of those projectiles, just narrowly missing officers. | |
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Cop City Protest Cover-Up
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| Who is that guy? | |
| Protesters? | |
| Protesters. | |
| Who are you? | |
| What is that guy? | |
| That's not a protest. | |
| That guy shouldn't be allowed on television. | |
| Protesters, especially. | |
| I actually didn't check that guy's name. | |
| I didn't catch it there. | |
| But whoever, that guy. | |
| That's ridiculous. | |
| That's an insult. | |
| These are domestic terrorists. | |
| So let's show the aerial footage. | |
| This is what that clown just called a protest. | |
| He doesn't know what he's talking about. | |
| He's reading some screen. | |
| Let's watch this here. | |
| The Atlanta. | |
| So there's no sound here. | |
| We're just going to narrate it. | |
| Jack, you could do it alongside me. | |
| So folks need to understand what you're looking at. | |
| So the white is heat. | |
| The black is cold. | |
| So you see when the clouds come over a little bit, there's some heat there because of the moisture. | |
| So what you're looking at is a crowd of 50 to 60. | |
| Now it switches over to optical image right there. | |
| So you're looking at 50 to 60 militants that are spilling out, following a path through the forest into this police training facility, $90 million. | |
| And in fact, there may have been, actually, if you look at that, there may be as many as 100 there, Charlie. | |
| You're looking at a platoon. | |
| So how many military operations? | |
| How many people were arrested? | |
| Only 23. | |
| Oh, so where are the rest? | |
| They ran back into the woods and they were not caught. | |
| So only 23, which is maybe about a quarter of the individuals there. | |
| And one thing that I want to explain for a lot of people out there, you need to understand the left is willing to do this and they're only going to escalate. | |
| So I understand the conservatives want to say, oh, well, you know what? | |
| You know, we'll be fine. | |
| I've got the Second Amendment and I've got, you know, the national. | |
| Well, guess what? | |
| Guess what? | |
| Guess what? | |
| What's going to happen when the left is out there putting up roadblocks in your town like they did in Seattle? | |
| Well, I mean, I went through those loadboxes. | |
| I saw them. | |
| We're about to go to a campus event that I pray doesn't come University of California Davis, where they're using the most cryptic charged language Antifa has. | |
| They're using with us, right? | |
| They say, get ready to be arrested, don't have identifying characteristics. | |
| Can you guys get that tweet of what they're doing in Davis? | |
| It's really something. | |
| So, Jack, we have 23 of the people that were arrested. | |
| Are these people charged with domestic terrorism? | |
| What are they charged with? | |
| They have been. | |
| They have been charged with domestic terrorism, which is on the books in Georgia. | |
| This is at the state level. | |
| But, Charlie, I want to give you some more hope because the FBI Atlanta put out a nice statement that said they are monitoring the situation very closely and they are looking into it the same way that they were looking into Mark Hauk up in the Philadelphia suburbs when they charged into his house with a SWAT team in a pre-dawn raid. | |
| Help me understand this, though, Jack. | |
| I mean, Antifa has a leader, of course, who never looked into it because we're not a serious country and Republicans won't be bothered with that. | |
| But who thought it was a good idea to deploy the shock troops here? | |
| Is this part, is there a deeper agenda at play here? | |
| Why now? | |
| Why this target? | |
| Antifa was largely silent over the last 12 months. | |
| Why all of a sudden are we seeing this massive increase in the paramilitary arm of the Democrat Party? | |
| Well, Charlie, because these are all training runs for 2024. | |
| What we're going to see in 2024 is going to make 2020 look like a walkthrough statuary hall following the rope lines, right? | |
| Antifa is going to be ginned up. | |
| Black Lives Matter is going to be ginned up. | |
| James Lindsay, to borrow a term from him, you are going to have a drag Floyd moment. | |
| Of course, there's going to be something like this where they are going, where there will be a situation, and this is going to happen within the next 18 months, I guarantee it, where some trans individual is either killed or commits suicide, and they will blame it on the right. | |
| And they will blame it on conservatives, and they'll blame it on you and me and Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles and all the rest of it. | |
| And they will use it to try to demonize and criminalize the opposition the same way they used Brian Sitkick January 6th. | |
| Yeah, so I just, it's curious to me, though. | |
| I mean, why this target were they able to do significant damage that's actually going to prevent this thing from being built? | |
| I can't imagine it. | |
| The whole thing. | |
| Well, Charlie, it's the point here as well is that it's a political and a kinetic operation because the political operations side of it is going to the mayor of Atlanta, who is, of course, a liberal Democrat. | |
| It's going to the DA in Atlanta, who is another liberal Democrat. | |
| By the way, this is Fulton County, the same county that's looking at prosecuting President Trump. | |
| This is the exact same area as that. | |
| So, and they and they probably will file charges, even though they had that insane witch as the Jory 4 person. | |
| So, when you're looking at all of these factors, they know that they will be protected by those in power on their side. | |
| It's the police department that they're putting the most pressure on because the police departments in most of the major cities in America and most of the major areas of America are one of the only right-wing controlled institutions left in the United States. | |
| We've talked about the left's long march to the institutions. | |
| They certainly have been targeting police officers and police departments for a very long time, and there's a reason for that because that's one of the few positions left. | |
| Obviously, the military is another huge target of this project, but police departments, FOPs, which are the police unions on the back end, these are one of the last places, the last bastions of actual law and order and the upholding of Western society and the tenets of Western society. | |
| That's why they're putting the pressure here. | |
| So, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, which is the Georgia equivalent of the FBI, they're going to have a little bit of a pickle. | |
| Are they going to use cell phone pings to try to find these people? | |
| If the GBI uses cell phone pings to try to find these people, then why did they say that all the cell phone? | |
| I think I see where you're going with this. | |
| Or the ballot mules was not able to arrest people. | |
| I'm confused. | |
| So, you could use cell phone pings to find domestic terrorists, but you can't use cell phone pings to find ballot mules in the same way. | |
| Not only that, but it was used. | |
| If you look just, you know, just one state north in South Carolina, this was just used to convict Alex Murdoch of double murder. | |
| Oh, yeah, no, they also used cell phone pings for that criminology student in Idaho, the freak with the eyes. | |
| They used cell phone pings to find him that he went on a road trip. | |
| And the GBI says that's we don't use that as evidence. | |
| Oh, for voter fraud, you don't because you don't for voter fraud, but not for literally every other crime that law enforcement uses cell phones for. | |
| I mean, you know, it's like fingerprinting has been around for 150 years. | |
| Cell phone pings have actually been used for decades at this point, believe it or not. | |
| Yep, that's exactly right. | |
| And so, you said there's at least probably, let's say there are 75 militants, 23 got arrested. | |
| You look at some of the mugshots here, some of them are smiling, they actually look happy in this. | |
| Of course, they are. | |
| But, I mean, what kind of bail do they have to post here? | |
| I mean, you're talking about years in prison. | |
| But, Charlie, let's go through. | |
| You know, we know what's going to happen because what's going to happen to them is the exact same thing that happened to the 200-plus Antifa militants that attacked President Trump's inauguration on January 20th, 2017. | |
| I was there. | |
| I remember the roadblock. | |
| I remember when they stopped traffic on 395 North and we were trying to get home with my now wife, my then fiancé, and my brother. | |
| They are going to, these people will not go to jail. | |
| Perhaps if they are, they are going to say, We apologize for the tactics that are used against you. | |
| You can already see the Southern Poverty Law Center, and probably the ACLU will come out in support of them as well. | |
| They're going to receive apologies from the government of Atlanta. | |
| They are going to receive sentence. | |
| They're going to be let go. | |
| And they're going to, Charlie. | |
| You think that's going to be anti-AFA? | |
| No, I know D.C. You think that the $1.6 million settlement. | |
| I know, but that's not Georgia. | |
| I mean, I know Georgia's slipping, but you're trying to tell me that you think... | |
| The city of Atlanta? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I'm asking the question. | |
| I'm asking a question. | |
| Is that really going to happen in Georgia? | |
| And if it is, I mean, that, but has Raphael Warnock or John Ossif spoke out against this? | |
| Of course not. | |
| No. | |
| Why would they speak out against their own APIs? | |
| These are their shock troops. | |
| By the way, notice that this is why we know it's planned. | |
| Did you notice that Antifa did not do a single one of these coordinated attacks leading up to the midterms? | |
| Right. | |
| And Charlie, the other part of this that I think we need to also take a look at is the fact that there was a massive protest that was also used as a cover for this attack. | |
| So there was a massive protest that was separate from this attack that was used to draw media, that was used to draw law enforcement, that was used to draw attention away, that had almost a thousand people, activists, et cetera, police, all those resources away. | |
| The same way that the pipe bombed the city is a lot of people. | |
| This is pretty sophisticated stuff, Jack. | |
| I mean, this is not. | |
| 9-6. | |
| It's extremely sophisticated. | |
| Yeah, this is. | |
| And that's what I keep trying to explain to people that Antifa's tactics have been escalating. | |
| These people are willing to escalate across state lines, across international lines in this case. | |
| We brought that up with Kyle Rittenhouse so many times. | |
| It mattered so much. | |
| And of course, when it comes across state lines, that also obviously becomes federal. | |
| That's literally where the phrase, read them the riot act, comes from. | |
| So are any of those acts or any of the, and by the way, 20, those 23, Charlie, all from outside of Georgia, all from outside of Georgia. | |
| So the question is from Eric Garland, are you going to file charges against them under the Riot Act? | |
| This was used, by the way, in the South, particularly even in Georgia, to go against who? | |
| The KKK. | |
| This was used to stop them from crossing state lines to participate in riots. | |
| In this case, it wasn't even a riot. | |
| It was a direct attack on a government facility. | |
| And yet it's interesting. | |
| The media, not curious about this, not asking any of the questions that you're asking, any of the basic questions. | |
| The senators there don't seem to care very much. | |
| And to be honest, I haven't even heard much from the governor. | |
| Yeah, where is Brian Kemp on all this? | |
| Just kind of like, oh, fine, you know, coordinated attack, bunch of people marching with weapons, just perfectly fine. | |
| You know, Brian Kemp won't be bothered by that. | |
| Something's weird happening in Georgia, man. | |
| There's some great people in Georgia and they listen to our program, but that place has just lost its political soul in the last couple of years. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I can remember, you know, I can remember being down in Georgia. | |
| Fletse is down there for the federal government, the law enforcement center. | |
| The Secret Service gets trained out of there. | |
| NCIS gets trained out of there. | |
| So there's, I know a ton of people down in the Brunswick, Georgia area. | |
| Savannah is just one of the best cities in the world. | |
| I think probably the best city in the South. | |
| But honestly, I don't understand what is going on with the state of Georgia. | |
| I don't understand how this often go on. | |
| And by the way, it really just speaks to where we are at this stage in our republic, where you can have communists attacking in broad daylight, Charlie, not even at night, not even under the cover of darkness, broad daylight where they know they can be identified, where, and they may have brought cell phones. | |
| I've been in, and I've had people infiltrate Antifa events where they do actually, they take the cell phones out, they take the batteries out, and then they leave them in a secure location before they go and commit what they call what this is, which is referred to as a direct action. | |
| So they may have had cell phones on them. | |
| But even that is incriminating. | |
| And you just need some investigator Ruther Salt. | |
| You have 20 phones that all of a sudden stop pinging. | |
| You can then find out what they are. | |
| Does the FBI have one informant in there? | |
| How many informants did the FBI? | |
| Exactly. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Every right-wing organization or organization of, you know, a couple of guys want to go shooting in the woods and the FBI's got 10 informants in there. | |
| We're not a serious country. | |
| We're not a serious country. | |
| So, Jack, what is your reaction to this nonstop flow of footage we're getting from Tucker Carlson regarding January 6th? | |
| Well, it really is amazing, Charlie. | |
| In fact, as somebody who was present at the rally for President Trump on January 6th, for someone who did walk up that street at one point during that day, someone who was there for when the first flashbangs went off, as I've always said, even I didn't think that I could be shocked anymore. | |
| I didn't think I could be surprised anymore. | |
| But I see this footage and I look at it and say, Charlie, the lies were far worse than we even imagined. | |
| Yeah, I mean, the significance of this is they were trying to create a Patriot Act 2.0, an almost second security state from this, all based on a lie. | |
| Well, they were trying to turn this into a Reichstag moment is what they were doing. | |
| And they used, which was, again, another attack on the Capitol carried under dubious circumstances that was used to then institute a regime. | |
| So here in the United States, we have to remember the context of this because only 14 days after January 6th, President Biden was installed as president of the United States at an event that had no public audience whatsoever. | |
| The entire Capitol was surrounded, ringed by the United States military. | |
| I couldn't even park my car. | |
| This is back when I was still working at another network. | |
| And so I couldn't park my car. | |
| I had to show ID. | |
| I had to show press pass just to even film with my cell phone because they turned Washington, D.C. into a militarized zone, specifically the area around the Capitol. | |
| If I remember correctly, it was Nancy Pelosi that was actually talking about putting crew-served weapons and machine gun turrets around the Capitol for this. | |
| Thousands of troops, many of which were forced to sleep in a parking garage at one point, were then deployed to Washington, D.C. | |
| And it was kept up this way for months. | |
| That's how Joe Biden came into office. | |
| And a lot of people forget it. | |
| And they were done so because of this January 6th lie. | |
| And that's what it was, Charlie. | |
| It was a lie. | |
| If you remember, when they took those embarkments and they took those barricades down from the Capitol building, later in April of 2021, there was April 2nd, 2021. | |
| There was another police officer who was killed by someone at, I shouldn't even say another, there was a police officer who was murdered by a militant. | |
| And it was, guess what? | |
| It wasn't a right-winger. | |
| It was a member of the nation of Islam. | |
| But nobody wants to talk about that officer. | |
| They want to talk about Brian Sicknick. | |
| They care. | |
| They cared exactly. | |
| They cared until they saw the Nation of Islam flag, not a MAGA flag. | |
| Like, oh, we don't care about that anymore. | |
| Same with Waukesha, same with any one of these things. | |
| And, you know, Jack, deflating these lies and pushing back against Billy Evans, couldn't remember what I'm talking about. | |
| Billy Evans. | |
| Yeah, and pushing back against the deceit and the falsehoods that just cascade over our time is so incredibly important. | |
| I was just talking to somebody the other day. | |
| They said, oh, yeah, you know, there were at least 4,000 violent people on January 6th that have been indicted. | |
| I mean, just the lies that people believe. | |
| The vast bulk of those were from were from people trespassing. | |
| But Charlie, these are the same people, by the way, who believe that President Trump said drinking bleach, who are the same people who believe that Iver Mecton is horsepaced, because we have to actually look at the situation here, that once that lie has been set out, once that emotional foothold has taken grasp throughout the audience of people who watch the New York Times, who watch CNN, who watch this mainstream corporate media, they're going to hear the first thing they heard and they're not going to take the time to actually figure out what happens next. | |
| That's why Real America's Voice, that's why the Charlie Kirk show, that's why programs like this are so important, what we do at human events, because we're the only ones out there who are actually providing a counter narrative to the lies that are out there. | |
| Why do you think that they lied about January 6th? | |
| They lied about George Floyd. | |
| They lied about COVID. | |
| They lied about Wuhan. | |
| They lied about Russia, all during the same 12-month period. | |
| We lived, Charlie, through a domestic color revolution here in the United States that was designed, as far as I'm concerned, that was designed to stop one movement and stop one man. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And still to this day, people have not been held accountable for that. | |
| Jack Pesobic, thank you so much. | |
| Everyone check out Jack Pesobic, Human Events Daily, and also humanevents.com. | |
| Jack, thanks so much. | |
| God bless. | |
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