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March 3, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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The Antichrist Administration with Benny Johnson and Simcha Rothman
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Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Benny Johnson joins us to talk about East Palestine Garland and a spiritual war.
And then we talk about what's going on in Israel.
It's international news.
And we have someone from the Knesset that helps explain.
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So many topics to cover, and no better person, very serious person, never laughs or makes a joke.
Benny Johnson joins us.
We've done some fun things together.
Benny has really been a critical ingredient to Turning Point USA's explosive trajectory over the last couple of years.
And he's the host of the Benny Show.
And Benny gets very fired up and is incredibly effective and generous, by the way, giving a lot of money to the residents East Palestine.
Benny, why don't you tell our audience about that as we get started?
You went to East Palestine and actually gave money to the residents there.
Tell us about it.
So I gave nothing.
I gave merely the social media monetization that came from all of you watching our program, subscribing to our show every single morning.
And so we thank you.
We simply gave away our revenue for that month to the people of East Palestine because, well, it's really evil to monopolize and monetize someone's pain and then do nothing for them, I think.
And so based on the teachings of Jesus Christ and based on being just a simple Christian, not trying to start a movement or a church here or anything, just trying to do what God asked us to do, which is to be light unto the world, to be salt and light.
And those people, man, they've gotten plenty of salt.
The Antichrist Administration Allegations 00:15:10
They need some light.
And so we went there to help out the 20 people closest to the burn, the toxic burn.
One of the men who I walked up to his doorstep, knocked on his door, handed him the envelope.
He said, come on back.
I want to show you something.
And behind his house, Charlie, was the wreckage of the train, smoldering, noxious, burning to the eyes.
And it was the entire thing was bent open like it was an Avengers movie, like it was a Marvel movie, right?
It was like the train had melted in his backyard.
And he has to live with that.
He's a poor working class American.
He doesn't have anywhere to go and no one's helping him.
The EPA is now admitting, let's play this tape here.
They wouldn't allow his kids anywhere near the streams.
It's interesting because he probably is able to go back to his regional office or Washington, D.C. Let's play Cut 57.
Administrator, let me ask you real quick.
Would you allow your children to touch the water?
We've seen the rainbow sheen.
We've seen all these chemicals popping up from the bottom of the streams that these kids used to play in.
Would you allow your kids anywhere close to these streams right now?
I would not.
I'm a father of a nine-year-old.
I think we have to all agree that we wish this accident didn't occur.
The accident occurred, and as a result, some of our creeks and our streams have pollution in them.
Benny?
So your father, Charlie, I'm father.
Why is it okay for the children of East Palestine to play inside of these putrid springs?
Why does it take President Trump to come there and deliver Trump water, tens of thousands of pounds of goods, and the federal government can't spend a dime there?
Joe Biden hasn't been.
Joe Biden can't be spared to go there for a photo op.
It's 200 miles from Washington, D.C. How fast would that be in Air Force One?
Charlie, you've been on Air Force One with the F-22 Raptors plowing the way for you.
How quickly would the Air Force One be able to get to East Palestinians?
The cool thing about being on Air Force One is you don't have to wait for air traffic control.
They wait for you.
So yeah.
And the taxi takeoff and landing, it is like doors closed, takeoff.
But yeah, I mean, it's like 35 minutes.
Maybe.
So go there.
You can be back in time for applesauce and Matlock, right?
And so why not?
But it's cruel.
Instead, geographically, Joe Biden went to the absolute polar opposite end of the planet, which is Kiev.
You can't actually get farther away from East Palestinian.
These treasured constituents of Ukraine.
The people that I hate to be so sinister about this, the people that have paid his family quite a lot of money.
That's a fact.
Ukraine has been very good to the Biden family.
So, Benny, shifting gears here a little bit.
You've been on top of this story.
I haven't touched it or covered it at all.
We've been talking about a lot of campus stuff, and you know this to great detail and you've had some wonderful takes on it.
The Garland hearing.
Benny, what happened in the Garland hearing?
So the public beating has not gone out of style, Charlie.
It used to be tar and feather.
It used to be running out of town on the rails in the old colonial days.
For some odd reason, we got rid of the stocks in the middle of the city.
But the public beating exists today.
It just exists in the form of the congressional hearing.
And Republicans delivered bombshell after blow after pistol whipping to Merrick Garland.
And that 70-year-old man deserved it.
That little Keebler elf had his feet held to the fire and not just the fires that cooked the cookies inside of the tree that he lives in making cookies.
He got burned yesterday.
And it was bad.
Listen, there was not a single stone left unturned.
Hunter Biden, Joe Biden attacking Catholics, attacking Christians.
I think those is probably one of the harshest lines of questioning by Josh Hawley.
Ted Cruz went after.
Yep.
Yep.
Ted Cruz went after Kavanaugh.
The Supreme Court justices being threatened.
A man wandering through Brett Kavanaugh's neighborhood with full tactical gear on, ready to kill him, admittedly.
And the Justice Department doing absolutely nothing.
So if you're a Mima and you have a 25 cent American flag and the Capitol police usher you into the U.S. Capitol, you get put on the terrorist watch list and you spend the rest of your life in jail.
But if you are a man kitted out in tactical gear with deadly weapons and you go up to kill a Supreme Court justice that was appointed by President Trump, you get a ticket to the chocolate factory.
Okay.
You get to go to the candy shop.
This is important.
And look, the more laws, the less justice.
So Garland is choosing what laws to enforce based on his own political revenge.
Look, Merrick Garland is a craven old man who is bitter.
He's bitter he never became a Supreme Court justice.
He's bitter that that seat remained open.
Remember, Barack Obama put Garland up for that seat.
And the turtle, to his great credit, Mitch McConnell, refused to put it up for vote.
It was one of the great things that the parliamentarian of the Senate from Kentucky ever did, and he does deserve credit for it.
And we won that shock election in 16 and Gorsuch filled the seat that Garland wanted.
Let's play Police Cut 88.
So as the committee well knows from my confirmation hearing, I promised to leave the matter of Hunter Biden in the hands of the U.S. Attorney for the District of Delaware, who was appointed in the previous administration.
So any information like that should have gone or should or should have gone to that U.S. attorney's offices and the FBI squad that's working with him.
I have pledged not to interfere with that investigation, and I have carried through on my pledge.
I mean, Benny, I want to play another piece of tape here between Chuck Grassley, who I like, even though he's not right on everything.
But he's asking Garland, play cut 90.
If the Justice Department received information that foreign persons had evidence of improper or unlawful financial payment paid to elected officials or other politically exposed persons, and those payments may have influenced policy decisions, would that pose a national security concern and demand a full investigation?
If I follow the question exactly right, if it's an agent of a foreign government asking someone and paying someone to do things to support that foreign government in secret, yes, I definitely think that would be a national security problem.
Benny Riff, one minute.
So he's got Merrick Garland on the record saying that Joe Biden's a foreign agent.
I mean, I don't even need a minute.
That's the headline there.
Joe Biden's a foreign agent, right?
So if you, so Merrick Garland's saying if you accepted money from a foreign government, then you need to be considered a foreign agent.
So our president is a foreign agent of Ukraine, a foreign agent of Russia, a foreign agent of Tajikistan, and a foreign agent of China.
So you can lump all that together and take it to the polls with you.
That's what it is.
Carry it in a bucket.
I don't care what tune you sing.
That's what Merrick Garland just admitted.
And he also said on the record that he's going to allow prosecution of Hunter Biden to go forward.
And he's going to accept the terms of the prosecution from the District Attorney of Delaware.
So very big.
That's well summarized, Benny.
In the next segment that we have together, I want to play the pieces of tape where Merrick Garland was asked, I was mocked, I was ridiculed, Benny, when I just kind of said on our program a couple weeks ago, I said the feds probably have informants going to mass and the left went crazy.
Oh, how dare you say that?
And Merrick Garland was asked that question yesterday: Hey, are there any FBI agents undercover going to Latin Mass?
And he refused to answer.
We're going to play that tape.
You're a man of faith, and so am I, Benny.
This beyond crosses the line.
This is serious.
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Is the FBI deploying undercover agents to the mass service near you?
Play cut 92.
I notice a pattern, though.
The FBI field office in Richmond on the 23rd of January of this year issued a memorandum in which they advocated for, and I quote, the exploration of new avenues for tripwire and source development against traditionalist Catholics, it's their language, including those who favor the Latin Mass.
Attorney General, are you cultivating sources and spies in Latin Mass parishes and other Catholic parishes around the country?
The Justice Department does not do that.
It does not do investigations based on religion.
I saw the document you have.
It's appalling.
It's appalling.
Benny, do you believe him?
Okay, so one, I would believe you if you put any action to your words.
You're going to call it appalling.
That's pretty harsh word.
You were judged for a very long time, Merrick Garland.
So you know the power of the English language.
If it's actually appalling, well, then why don't you deliver some crusades level justice here and heads rolling?
Yeah, how many people have been fired for the racist against somebody or if you misgendered somebody, well, damn it, they would be out on a street corner singing a tune, busking.
You would not have a job.
You would be done.
Your career would be finished.
You would have to leave.
You would have to go live on Epstein Island.
But no, no.
Now, if, you know, nobody, no, there's been no consequences.
So, you know, I would ask you if you actually cared about this, if you cared about Christians, if you cared about Latin Mass, prove it.
Prove it.
Fire someone.
Let the blood, like, like, like, let the blood, let the blood flow, right, metaphorically, in the Justice Department for the people who did this.
But they won't do it.
They won't do it because they actually agree with this.
They were shocked that they got found out and that this is the most anti-Christian administration in American history.
This is the Antichrist administration.
They are.
And we know that because we know that the Antichrist is going to attack the church.
Now, I'm not God.
I'm not saying that this is the book of Revelation playing out before us, but attacks on the church are increasing.
The first thing they shut down, Charlie, is the church during COVID.
They were thrilled.
They ran.
They sprinted to shut down the church.
They were so thrilled about it.
Stories about how you could get COVID by choirs singing in the church.
That was the first thing to hit the presses.
And now, under the Biden administration, they are going after Latin Mass so that Christians can have connections to our ancestors and Christendom.
That's why they're attacking Latin Mass.
And just a final note here, just a final note here.
The Pope died just a couple weeks ago, Pope Ratzinger.
And his only request was that Joe Biden didn't come to his funeral.
That's real.
So why exactly?
Why pray tell is that?
If these people are so Catholic and so Christian.
Let's play Cut 93.
Karine Jean-Pierre not answering what the Catholic administration is or is not doing of Joe Biden.
Joe Biden says he's a Catholic.
Play cut 93.
Several attorneys general have written a letter and they say, quote, anti-Catholic bigotry appears to be festering in the FBI.
And the Bureau is treating Catholics as potential terrorists because of their beliefs.
Again, they wrote that in reaction to that leaked document.
So my question is, is the president aware of that document?
And what would he tell Catholics seeing these headlines who might be worried they're coming after us, the feds, because of our faith?
So I, look, I have not seen this leaked document.
I've not spoken to the president.
I haven't seen it, so therefore I haven't spoken to the president about it.
So I just don't want to get ahead of that.
We can look at it eventually and get it.
Okay.
Happy to.
She is without a doubt the worst press secretary in American history because she was chosen for characteristics that aren't competency or merit.
It was a diversity choice.
But Benny, I mean, this is a real crusade, no pun intended, against Christians, one minute remaining.
Well, yeah, I mean, again, if you were actual Christians, if you were actual Christians, let's just go to the basics here.
Are you treating all men equal?
Are you living by the standard that all men are created equal by God and deserve respect on this earth?
Are you treating all life equally?
Or are you the most radical pro-abortion frothing at the mouse demonic administration that we've ever seen?
Well, the answer to that is pretty plain.
You can see it in the policy.
They're not only in favor of abortion up to the point of birth, they're in favor of abortion after birth, if you're to believe Ralph Northam.
So, no, the answer is no, you know, and we're not, I'm not going to let you sit here and desecrate my church and my cross and my faith if you can't even hold up the simple tenets of life has value and men are created equal.
If you can't say that, and the left cannot say that, they cannot say those things, then you have to call it out for what it is.
You have to call out Satanists, you have to call out demons, and you have to call out the agents against the church and call them out by name.
Christ asks us to do this and to be bold.
Check out the Benny show, everybody.
Benny, God bless you, men.
Thank you so much.
Thanks, Charlie.
Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
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Judicial Reform and Activist Courts 00:11:55
There's a lot of confusion about what's happening in Israel right now.
And joining us is a member of the Knesset, chairman of the Law and Justice Committee, Simka Rothman, joins us to help explain what is going on in Israel.
Simka, thank you so much for joining the program and educate our audience of what is happening in the Knesset.
What is the issue you're trying to address?
The floor is yours.
Thank you for having me.
And it's very hard to explain different systems.
Everything looks strange when you try to explain to people in Israel what's going on in the U.S. or in Canada or in Britain or something.
Everything is different, but I will try and do my best.
The system in Israel, we basically want to try to bring it closer to the American system.
In the U.S., judges are appointed in the states, sometimes elections, sometimes a different method for the federal system.
It's the president and the senate are involved.
In Israel, we have a system.
The judges are basically selecting themselves.
It's created a big problem.
They have a veto power who will get into the Supreme Court that create ever-growing distance between where the public is and where the court is.
It creates a self-appointing, self-perpetuating court.
It creates a very activist court.
And that needs to change.
And we want a system that gives the ability for the elected officials of Israel to influence the way the court is built.
So it's a committee.
I can get into details if it's more of an interest.
But the goal is that in Israel, like basically almost any other democratic country in the world, the judges will be selected by the people or by the people representatives.
That's one key part of the reform.
And I think that's the easiest part to explain to people in the US because that's the way it works all over.
More complicated is what we are talking about.
When you mentioned my title, you said that I am the chair of the law and justice committee in the Knesset.
But another part of the name of the committee I'm the chair of is the Constitution Committee.
This committee is supposed to create the Constitution for Israel, but in Israel, we don't have a constitution, even though it's a work in progress for the last, basically since the founding of the state of Israel.
We don't have a constitution.
The Knesset, our parliament, never created a constitution, never brought it to the public for a referendum or something.
So basically, what we have is a constitution, a quasi-constitution that was created by the court, whatever in it decided by the court, and the court, based on his own jurisprudence, basically say this law is unconstitutional.
This law is constitutional.
And when you have this and combine it with the way we appoint our judges, you basically have what Justice Posner said, you have a judicial boutian, you have a court that rules the country without ever being elected.
So we need the second parties to address this and to create that the court will only be able to cancel laws in a very special majority, only based on something that is written in the basic laws, not about some vague jurisprudence.
And the Knesset, which has the power to create the basic laws to begin with, will have the ability to override court and tell the court, listen, you try to explain to us what the basic law means.
We legislate them.
We know better than you what it means and we want to make it clear in the legislation.
It's not the system that is so easy to understand when you don't have a constitution, but countries without the constitution, like the Great Britain or New Zealand, or in some parts, even Canada has kind of this override mechanism where the court cannot cancel laws.
That's what we try to do.
So right now in Israel, there's mass protests, tens of thousands of people.
They're acting like this is the end of Israel.
So why the outrage and the reaction for something that seems so reasonable?
Help explain it to our audience.
So it's basically a matter of the power balance.
Just imagine, I'll try to make it again for American audience.
Just imagine you would have a court that was appointed by the Democrats.
And even though the Republicans are in power for 30 years or for 40 years, the judges are still electing themselves.
So you have a country that goes very much to one side and the court, you cannot change it.
So of course, the Democrats, the minority, will be very happy with this because they will have a court that makes sure that whatever, doesn't matter what the public choose, their view stays in power.
So they are happy about it.
They are fine.
The majority, the Republicans, will say, wow, we have to reform and change the way we elect our judges.
That would be the case.
So in Israel, some parts, namely the left in Israel, which is a small part, Israel is compared to the world, is a very conservative country, very strong family values, national security values.
In the public, the right is very strong in Israel.
But the court was appointed way before and is appointing himself.
So the distance is growing.
So the people you see demonstrating, most of them are people who voted for the left, some of them even to parties that never passed the threshold.
So they're not represented in the net.
And they say for many years we thought that even if we lose elections, we stay in power.
Now we're actually going to lose the extra, the excessive power that our views had.
So they are not happy about it.
But the majority of the public in Israel, in amazing numbers, supports the reform.
Of course, some of them, me included, say it's better to pass it with members from both sides of the aisle, members from the coalition and the opposition in Israel.
That's the reason why when I put the legislation forward, I did not choose my dreams.
I chose exactly some legislation that was supported and voted on by members of the opposition just a year ago.
So I said, I want exactly what you proposed a year ago so we can get to some middle ground.
Of course, politics is politics.
So some of the people basically voted against the law that they voted for it just a year ago.
But I guess that's true all over the world.
So just in closing here, how do you see this concluding?
Because you guys do have the consensus and the power despite all the protests.
So do you believe that this will simmer down and you'll inevitably be successful?
So first, as you said, we have the political majority to pass it without ever trying to negotiate with the opposition.
But despite this, we are reaching out for the opposition.
We don't pass it in fast pace.
We are doing it to try to get the opposition on board.
I hope it's better for any reform to pass with multi-partisan support.
So that's what I try to do.
But if not, we will pass it with the majorities that the government have.
And the support in the streets, there was the riots or the demonstrations, but the support, when I walk the street, the majority of the public supports it.
You see it, we saw it on the election, so it will pass.
And I hope Israel will be closer to other democracies in the world.
And we want to be a country ruled by its justices.
Well, you did a wonderful job explaining this.
Simca, I hope to meet you soon in Israel.
And if you ever in the States, let us know.
And it seems you are fighting for something that is very reasonable and popular.
And so don't let the activists get to you.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Everybody, email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
It's fascinating to connect what we just learned there to what I learned from Jair Bolsinaro a couple of weeks ago.
We did that interview in Miami.
It seems that what's happened in Brazil is very similar to Israel, where you have these judges with extraordinary authority.
It was either Hamilton or Madison.
Actually, you know what?
It might have been John Jay because he was a judge himself.
He was the first Supreme Court justice of America.
He warned about an unaccountable judicial branch.
They talked about that at length.
I'll find the Federalist Paper.
And there were some really powerful quotes where when they set up the structure of the United States Constitution, they kept in mind that the judicial branch cannot be superior to the executive or the legislative.
They must be in harmony with one another, equal branches.
Otherwise, it can go completely off the rails.
And that's what's happening in Israel, happening in Brazil.
And the left, they're able to infiltrate that.
If we're able to find Scalia's quote on the structure of the Constitution, and for Simka to say that they don't even have a Constitution in Israel, that's eye-opening for me.
Hamilton talked about it in Federalist 78 and Federalist 81.
The Federalist Papers were at the time anonymously written newspaper articles in New York defending the ratification of the U.S. Constitution.
They were the Federalist Papers and the Anti-Federalist Papers, published under the name of Publius.
But later we learned, obviously, Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, we have a picture of James Madison here, who is really the father of the U.S. Constitution, and John Jay were the three co-authors of the Federalist Paper.
I think there's 108 of them or 115, something like that.
But they talk about basically why they need a judicial branch, and they talk, it's really interesting.
In Federalist 81, Alexander Hamilton pushes back against this argument where some people say, well, why do we need a judicial branch at all?
Why don't you just let the legislature check themselves?
He says, no, no, no, that's not enough.
You do need its own place.
But at the same time, you cannot allow them to be extrajudicial.
Publius then made the famous claim that the judiciary will, quote, always be the least dangerous to the political rights of the Constitution.
It may truly be said to have neither force nor will, but merely judgment, as quote, the weakest of the three departments of power, it needs to be fortified, needs to be for had fortification.
And the reason that it's the weakest of all the branches because of the structure it set up.
This is not the case in Israel, Brazil.
That's what's so interesting.
It's the opposite.
It's the most powerful of all the branches.
God bless our founding fathers for seeing that problem before it ever manifested.
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When I was on campus yesterday, we spent probably 40 minutes talking about Ukraine and Russia.
And the kids there, they knew their stuff.
I shouldn't call them kids.
The students there, they knew their stuff to their credit, but they were very, very pro sending weapons, support to Ukraine, like extraordinarily.
And I did ask them at some point, I said, are you guys getting this from your professor?
He said, oh, no, independent research, you know, just looking at things like, wow.
And I mean, the arguments were all the same sort of arguments that we hear, but the essence was: look, Ukraine is basically a great partner of ours.
They're a wonderful country.
We need to send aim and support and weapons, and we can't allow autocratic, terrible people like Vladimir Putin to invade countries without some sort of recourse.
I said, well, does $200 billion bother you?
They said, oh, that's just a drop in the bucket.
That's nothing.
I said, okay, that's not true, but it's an interesting perspective.
Zelensky recently, we haven't had a chance to talk about this yet.
Zelensky.
Now, I think this is almost a threat.
Some people disagree with me.
They say, oh, no, it's not a threat.
It's just Zelensky being Zelensky.
But I want your thoughts on this.
This is Zelensky saying that the United States will have to send their sons or daughters to die to defend NATO.
Play cut 70.
The U.S. will have to send their sons and daughters exactly the same way as we are sending their sons and daughters to war.
And they will have to fight because it's nature that we're talking about and they will be dying.
And you could disagree whether or not that's a threat.
What I mean by a threat is that he's basically saying if you don't give me enough weapons and give me enough support, your kids might have to end up fighting this war.
Let's play cuts 31.
NATO chief admits that Ukraine will join the alliance.
This admission violates our promise to Russia and crosses Putin's red line.
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NATO allies have agreed that Ukraine will become a member of our alliance.
But at the same time, that is a long-term perspective.
What is the issue now is to ensure that Ukraine prevail as a sovereign independent nation and therefore need to support Ukraine.
And Jake Sullivan was asked by CNN, can you level with the American people about what the expectations could be?
Could there be a full-blown war going on a year from now that America could be involved in?
They're not able to answer that question, and that should trouble you greatly.
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You're talking about supporting Ukraine, and you're talking about them taking the lead on how they define victory, which is understandable.
It's their war.
But the administration is also promising them that America will support them as long as it takes.
Can you level with the American people about what expectations should be?
I cannot predict the future, and nor can anyone else.
And anyone who is suggesting they can define for you how and when this war will end is not leveling with the American people or anyone else.
He's an unbelievably irresponsible person.
He also was intimately involved in a lot of the Trump-Russia hoax, steel dossier nonsense with Hillary Clinton.
All right, it's time for Republicans to draw a line in the sand and say, regardless of your feelings on this, we need a congressional war authorization.
We need to get every single member right now to vote.
No more proxy wars, no more bombing Nord Stream 2, sending weapons.
Yes, they have appropriated weapons in funding bills, but it is now time to get a line-by-line, member-by-member vote, a roll call vote of do you are you ready to say that we are officially at war with Russia?
The U.S. Constitution, which we just spent time celebrating, is being shredded by the national security and national defense apparatus.
Congress is the only branch of government that has the long-term power to authorize and go to war.
Now, that has been broken because of the War Powers Act of 1973, and you could declare war for 90 days, and you could have troops and you could have reconnaissance, and there's all these workarounds.
Enough.
If we as conservatives love the Constitution as much as we say we do and love America, regardless of your feelings on the Ukrainian dispute and what's happening there, we need to slow this down and we need to use the Constitution as our guide.
It is there to be able to temper our emotions, focus on actual results.
The Constitution has a process for this.
Go through the process.
It stands the test of time.
The structure of the Constitution has been tested through world wars, through invasions.
It's time for Republicans that might, like Mike Gallagher, who's completely out of control from Wisconsin.
Even if you love what's going on there, get on the record.
Use Congress.
Use the Constitution.
Stop being cowards and allowing the executive branch to go rogue and get us closer into a hot kinetic war with one of the largest countries in the world.
That would be such a mistake.
It's time for Congress to vote.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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