A Biden Family Turncoat? with Rep. Byron Donalds, Tom Fitton, and Ben Bergquam
Who is Eric Schwerin, and how important is it that he has reportedly flipped to informing on the Biden family? Congressman Byron Donalds joins Charlie to lay out Schwerin's background, and explain the House Oversight Committee's agenda on tech censorship, the Afghan debacle, and more. Tom Fitton reacts to the James O'Keefe drama, and then explains Judicial Watch's recent big win against voter fraud in Los Angeles. Ben Bergquam offers the latest update from the anarchic state of nature once known as the "U.S.-Mexico border."Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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James O'Keefe and Project Veritas00:14:31
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We're going to talk about a variety of topics, some of the big wins from Judicial Watch, including Los Angeles County confirming removal of 1.2 million ineligible voters from part of a lawsuit.
But we are going to lead with the Project Veritas story.
What is the latest?
Well, James O'Keefe last evening posted a picture on his social media of just what kind of seemed to be a brainstorming session.
James O'Keefe was in jeans and a jacket, hat backwards and a big whiteboard, joking around, it looks like, with his team in a good way, favorable.
I loved seeing it.
That he's still creating, that he seems like he's planning his next moves.
Look, the left would love nothing more than to take James O'Keefe out of the game.
They would love nothing more than to try to make James O'Keefe no longer a threat.
You see, James O'Keefe has successfully been able to land more shots on target than anybody else in the conservative movement, maybe except Donald Trump in the last decade.
James O'Keefe tweeted out, those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who actually do.
In a war room at midnight with a few happy warriors making moves, James O'Keefe looks to be in great spirits.
However, I don't think we should turn our back on the idea of James O'Keefe having a rightful, having a right to still be involved in Project Veritas, not just involved, it's his organization.
What does this show?
What does it demonstrate?
That someone like James O'Keefe, who has done nothing but win after win after win, can be removed like this.
And for what reason?
They say it's because of $150,000 in black cars, which are business expenses.
We went through that whole thing in great depth and great detail, and I thought it was rather persuasive against the board's contention that this was wasting of money.
And joining us now is another hero who is friends with James O'Keefe, who I know has strong opinions about this.
Tom Fitton is with us from Judicial Wash.
Tom, welcome to the program.
Hey, Charlie, good to be with you.
Thanks for having me again.
Always welcome on the program.
You're one of the few fighters, just like James O'Keefe is.
Tom, how should we approach this James O'Keefe saga, which is increasingly a circus on behalf of Project Veritas' board?
Well, the board hasn't asked me for advice, nor has James, so I'm hesitant to freely give it.
I'm hoping they can resolve it.
I haven't seen anything that the board has released to suggest the kind of extraordinary action that they took was warranted, especially given the risk to the company.
So if I were them, I'd try to walk it back as quickly as I can and resolve the issues they have with James so they can get back to work.
How important is James O'Keefe to the movement?
Well, you know, I think he has this entrepreneurial spirit and an approach that it's hard to clone.
And so he has a unique approach that was pursued through Project Veritas.
And, you know, I think he'll land on his feet no matter what happens.
But, you know, there are these leaders in our movement and in the nation that, you know, we shouldn't cast aside easily.
And I don't think that's going to happen with James.
I sure hope not.
He's incredibly important.
I want to talk about the story here, Judicial Watch.
Los Angeles County confirms removal of 1.2 million ineligible voters.
This is all because of Judicial Watch.
Tell us about it.
Yeah, we sued in federal court.
It's a few years ago now to get LA County and generally California to get back on track in terms of ensuring that they're taking reasonable steps to clean up the voter rolls, which is required under federal law, the National Voter Registration Act.
And it looked like to us, and I think they admitted to this, that they hadn't cleaned their roles in 20 years under some sort of consent decree they had back to the Clinton administration.
So long story short is they settled with us and it was a remarkable settlement to their credit.
They committed to over time cleaning up the roles specifically in Los Angeles County.
And they finally reported back to us the results of that work that took years.
I think it should have been done more quickly, but you know, it was a settlement, so that's life.
And they confirmed 1.2 million names were removed.
Half of those names, it looks like Charlie had been on the rolls and hadn't done anything, meaning been inactive for at least 10 years.
So this is a remarkable development for cleaner elections in California, because it doesn't mean that, you know, if there's an inactive voter sitting on the rolls, it doesn't mean they're voting illegally.
Obviously, if they vote, they become active, but it's kind of a pool of names from which fraudsters can draw.
So if someone moves away, then that's a name potentially that can be easily taken up and then voted on.
And so by, and that's why you have these rules requiring them to take reasonable steps to clean up the rolls.
So we've got 1.2 million taken off the rolls in California.
This happened looks like over the last year.
So they waited to the last minute in terms of the settlement.
And then, you know, separately, we had a lawsuit against New York City that resulted in a settlement that happened after they removed 440,000 names from the rolls.
And just before that, North Carolina, we stopped our lawsuit after they removed after we sued 430,000 names, I think.
So we're just talking 2 million names in the last year have been cleaned up as a result of litigation by one group, Judicial Watch.
By the way, litigation that in the ordinary course should have been and still should be pursued by an honest justice department, but they don't care.
They want the roles to be dirty, in my view.
The left is there so their political allies can steal elections if necessary.
And that's not something that we countenance.
So is there any evidence that these names that will now be removed, removed from the voter rolls received mail-in ballots?
It's hard to tell.
Potentially, yes.
If they're inactive, they shouldn't have received ballots, but they're all able to vote.
What's interesting is in 2020, going back, Governor Newsom wanted to send them all ballots.
And we sued to stop it and won.
So if they had their drothers, they would be getting ballots.
But they're all edge, you know, despite being inactive, they can all vote.
They just show up and vote or obtain a mail-in ballot.
Or somebody in their name, right?
I mean, that's or they can just get their, you know, someone can just send a name, you know, send a request in their name.
So that's the risk that's now alleviated and mitigated as a result of their names being removed.
So this is just one of several areas across the country where this is a major concern.
How many, if you were to speculate, millions of ineligible voters are still on voter rolls, let's just say in the key states, Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin?
Well, we have litigation ongoing in Pennsylvania.
Good.
We have litigation ongoing in Colorado.
It continues to be an issue.
It's millions.
I'd be hesitant to take a wild guess because I don't want the fact checkers to come down on me like a ton of rich.
But it's significant.
No, I'm not sure.
It's a significant, it's a significant number.
You know, in New York, for instance, they didn't remove people from the rolls for five, six years.
So, but thanks to our work, states are being more careful.
And I think the story here is that Judicial Watch settled with California and Los Angeles County and New York City.
You know, it's not exactly the types of jurisdictions that one would think that Judicial Watch would be able to easily settle with on this sensitive topic.
But they know what the law is.
And the Supreme Court has made it clear that roles are to be cleaned up pursuant to the law.
So we're on the side of light here, but there's still a lot of work to be done as I've incredibly important work.
Colorado and Pennsylvania.
We'll see what else is going on because it's a yearly analysis that we undertake.
So the numbers for registrations and enactors will be coming around soon from the last election cycle.
And we'll see how things are then.
Everyone check out Judicial Watch and support Judicial Watch, just like Project Veritas.
They are doing the Lord's work, actually putting points on the board.
Tom, we have an email here.
Charlie, love Judicial Watch and their work.
Please ask Tom if there's any follow-up as to the purge voter rolls.
How do we know if it's actually been done?
Sandra from Fair Oaks, California.
Tom, what's your response?
Well, it was sent to us on official documentation.
The numbers are pretty easy to verify.
We trust they were done.
And it's an astonishing amount of names that were deleted over the last year or removed, as I say, should have probably been done a decade or more ago.
So it's pursuant to a court process and a federal court settlement.
So, you know, we don't trust.
We do verify as best as we're able to under the law.
I want to talk about another story here.
Judicial Watch sues the Department of Homeland Security for records on election censorship.
Tell us about it.
Yeah, I mean, this is one of, I think, a few lawsuits that have been spawned as a result of the Twitter files release.
And I think the specific one you're referencing, it looks like these NGOs, these non-governmental organizations and government entities were essentially engaging in censorship activities, targeting countless Americans on what is the equivalent of a Slack channel.
I don't use Slack, but sort of a casual approach to censorship.
And we're asking for the documents.
And recall, we don't sue.
unless they tell us they don't comply with the law.
So the Department of Homeland Security, rather than disclose information about their censorship activities, is hiding these records in violation of the FOIA law.
And I'm sorry, but when you break the law, especially on sensitive topics like this, in terms of secrecy, it suggests to me, and I think to most fair-minded people, that there's something they don't want us to see.
Yeah, and I just want to remind our audience, because this was a story we covered rather extensively a couple months ago.
The government, thanks to the United States Constitution, the Founding Fathers put rules for what the government cannot do.
The government knows this.
They don't always follow those rules, but to get creative, they outsourced their censorship to other companies because private companies are not bound by the Bill of Rights.
They can basically do whatever they want.
And so, but is that still the case, Tom?
I'm just curious.
There has to be some constitutional precedent, maybe not, of a government agency outsourcing the behavior that they themselves could not do.
The equivalent would be asking telecom companies after 9-11 to listen in on Muslims' phone calls, right?
Just something that would have gotten the liberal media upset.
Is there any precedent for this?
Well, you're highlighting the illegality of it and the unconstitutional nature of it.
The government can't do, you know, through a cutout something that they're prohibited under law from doing directly.
And we know in California, for instance, speaking of which, the Secretary of State's office in 2020 was, as, you know, as now has been widely disclosed, but we had uncovered it first, was working through these big tech companies to take down material they didn't like related to election controversies.
And one of those, you know, D.C. Draino, the internet influencer.
He's great.
He had tweets taken down and Judicial Watch found in these documents.
We were a victim too.
They took down a video of mine for Judicial Watch talking about the concerns I had about mail-in voting and the dirty voting rolls in California and such.
And YouTube took it down.
So we sued under the Constitution civil rights lawsuit, this California Secretary of State for that very issue, that they were violating our civil rights by getting YouTube to take this video down of ours.
Yeah, and I don't know.
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But here's what I do.
I do know that I was on a list by the Department of Homeland Security.
And I do know that I was placed on a blacklist by Twitter.
I don't know if those two things are connected.
So I'm curious.
And Tom, thank you for fighting the fight for me because I was explicitly put on a do not amplify list by Twitter.
And I do know the Department of Homeland Security had me on a very long report.
And so reasonable minds can say, hey, one plus two should equal three, right?
And so, Tom, any closing thoughts on this?
Well, you have potential civil rights claims.
I'm not a lawyer, but certainly any lawyer will look at that and wonder if there was a connection and whether it's worth pursuing via litigation.
In the least, Congress has got to step in because the Biden administration hasn't stopped doing anything that we're concerned about here.
Maybe Twitter's ratcheted things back, but it hasn't stopped over at Facebook and Google.
They embrace this censorship.
They embrace this role.
They think they're able to do what we all object to.
So Congress has got to step in and target those who committed these illicit acts and be explicit as to prohibiting it from happening anymore.
Tom, thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
Please support Judicial Watch.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
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Biden's Sons and Mineral Oversight00:08:03
He's a great American patriot.
Very proud of him.
He's fighting hard.
Byron, welcome to the program.
How are you doing, Charlie?
Good seeing you.
It's great.
So let's, I want to get into the specific news from the House Oversight Committee, but let's just, I want to get a bigger picture kind of answer from you.
How are things in Congress?
Speaker fight as well in the rearview mirror.
Talk about the pace.
Talk about the results.
Talk about how this Congress is currently contrasting with the one that just ended.
Well, look, I got to tell you, this Congress has actually moved faster and done more things than even I anticipated.
I mean, I was hopeful is what I wanted to see happen, but we've been moving at breakneck speed.
Obviously, everybody pays attention to oversight and judiciary, but even in the other committees, homeland, you know, agriculture, natural resources, my other committee, financial services, we're all moving at warp speed.
You know, on financial services, I'm on the ESG task force appointed by Chairman McHenry on that task force.
I mean, we're really looking into everything.
And so, you know, that really has me optimistic.
The second part is, you know, the members want to do the work.
You know, the members are excited about being in the majority.
They want to hold this administration accountable, just like everybody watching your show and people who listen to shows and are activists, patriots, conservatives, people who just want to see the country back on track.
But this crop of Republicans is committed to that work.
So it's not been a thing where you have members saying, ooh, maybe we shouldn't go here.
Ooh, maybe we should stay away from that.
What's the New York Times going to say?
What might CNN run?
Everybody's like, no, let's just go get it done.
And so that's kind of the attitude and the atmosphere right now, you know, amongst House Republicans.
And I think it's a good thing.
So I want to get into one of the specific stories here that really caught my eye.
Key Hunter Biden Associate is now cooperating with Congress, opening a crucial window into Joe Biden's dealings.
Can you tell us who this person is, Eric Schwerin?
Is he testifying mostly privately right now?
What's the strategy and why is this important?
Well, you know, what he's doing right now, these are private testimonies, private questioning, really going through all of his accounts.
And then, you know, you may or may not see him in a public hearing.
You know, that still remains to be seen.
But Mr. Schwarren, he was in the investment business.
He was a business dealer that did work with Hunter Biden for some time.
And so he has key information about what not just Hunter.
And I think the person who gets left out is Jim Biden, Joe Biden's brother, who's also a very key part of all of this stuff and what the Biden family dealings are.
And frankly, how their entire business apparatus is about selling influence from one Joe Biden.
And so the reason why this is such a focal point for us is because Joe Biden is making decisions, not just domestically, but internationally every single day right now based on compromise deals he might have made previously.
That's the key point.
And so, you know, the guys on the other networks are all like, you're just trying to play got you.
There's nothing got you with that with business deals for your family with the Chinese and other countries when the guy sitting in the White House is also making said deals.
And we want to make sure that he's not compromised.
That seems to be a very simple one that requires oversight.
Yeah.
Not hard.
And but here's my fear, Byron, and maybe you can alleviate me of my concern that the Bidens are crafty.
Hunter is not.
He's a sloppy person, obviously, leaving laptops and stuff.
But I'm worried that you might be wasting valuable time, not wasting, using valuable time just going after the Biden associates to only find things that we probably already know and reconfirm suspicions we already have.
Can you alleviate my concern that you think this is the best use of the time of multiple things for the House Oversight Committee?
Well, one thing is that this is not the only thing House Oversight is doing.
I mean, we already started stuff dealing with Twitter and the social media companies.
We're not going to let go of the rope on that with respect to not just the FBI, but other elements of the government suppressing free speech.
We're on that.
We're going to be on the border.
We have another hearing on Afghanistan that's coming up in a couple of weeks.
Like there's other things we're doing well.
But the reason why it's important to get the foundation right is that if you're ever going to make the critical ties to Joe Biden, it can't just be a rush to judgment.
Think that where the Democrats' oversight attempts were just completely ridiculous, that everything was about Donald Trump.
And they tried moving heaven and earth to criminalize the man.
And so much so that they never laid a foundation for why you were even looking in that direction.
And so, you know, if you look at the chain of evidence, it's pretty clear.
You know, my feelings are clear.
I think that Joe Biden's decisions are compromised by his sons and his brother's business dealings.
But I see that.
But you got to make that case to the American if you're going to take legal action or other action.
It's not just one.
It's every theater we're currently involved in.
So it's, is Joe Biden's decision making on his recent trip to Europe?
Are there potential points of blackmail or bribery or deals that were done in Ukraine?
Ukraine was a centerpiece for the Biden family making money.
It's not a conspiracy theory.
He made money sitting on the board of Burisma.
So is that still involved?
Is that factoring that Joe Biden's decisions?
But then let's go to the Asian theater.
As the Chinese Communist Party decides to get more aggressive, is any of our decision not to shoot down the Chinese spy balloon, did it factor into Joe Biden's calculus that they might, A, have the goods on Joe and his family, or B, that he looked at that as some sort of like, hey, I don't want to upset the gravy train or the ATM.
Is that a stretch too far, Byron?
Am I looking, am I thinking about this correctly?
I don't think so because it was very clear that his son and his brother had business dealings with the Chinese.
I mean, look, I go a step further than just the balloon.
Our entire energy plan or lack thereof by Joe Biden is the centerpiece of it is getting batteries, solar panels, and minerals from China.
Well, they were selling mines to Chinese companies.
This is what Joe Biden's feeling about.
That's so important.
I got to pause you.
Can you just tell our audience what you mean by that?
You cannot get this green energy environmentalist nonsense without batteries, cobalt more specifically.
And they've decided they don't want to use any American mineral deposits.
They want to get that from China.
So in a weird way, the environmental crusade, he's against our own fossil fuels actually enriches China.
100% correct.
To build, to make electric batteries, you need cobalt, lithium, rare earth, nickel, a couple other key critical minerals.
Joe Biden's administration is against mining for any of that in the United States, or frankly, getting or sourcing that stuff from allied countries of others.
Meanwhile, the Chinese are dominating the critical minerals environment.
Hunter Biden and Jim Biden helped facilitate some of those mining deals to Chinese companies.
And one of the centerpieces of Joe Biden's administration is electric vehicles for all and all the other.
But ladies and gentlemen, those batteries, the core piece and components of those batteries come from China.
It doesn't matter if they're manual, if they're put together in India or Singapore or whatever the case might be.
The core mineral contents come from China.
And here's the irony, just so everyone understands.
So there's massive mineral deposits, for example, in Texas, right?
That very well could be used and utilized for nickel-cobalt, as you mentioned.
Do you know the reason they use not to be able to use those rare earth minerals?
The environment.
So here they are saying that we need electric cars for the environment, but we're not allowed to explore our own minerals to build the batteries needed in the electric vehicles because the environment is a problem.
So we'd rather have it happen in China.
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Yeah, you're exactly right.
And so this is why it's so mind-boggling.
But when you bring in the family situation, the business dealings around the globe, the other deals that we don't know about, frankly, that have existed around the globe, and you tie that in with this policy agenda, then it looks incredibly seedy, backhanded, self-dealing, double-dealing from the bottom of the deck, however you want to characterize it.
It all looks bad.
The American people should be aware of what the president is doing in this regard.
Then you take a look at all the other issues that have gone wrong since he's been president.
And then you have an ability to hold this administration accountable.
So that way, if we say, look, here's what's happening.
Your family was doing business deals over here that we should not be sourcing that material from over there.
That's a legislative function.
Or if it's even going as far as, listen, family members can't be involved in international business transactions with somebody who's a sitting president because, you know. you might have implications on the decision-making process.
These are things that are critical for the American people to understand and Congress has a responsibility to investigate.
So closing here, debt ceiling, it's coming up.
What is your opinion on it?
What should the strategy be?
The turtle in the Senate looks like full all-out capitulation.
He's going to give Biden whatever he wants.
It's going to come down to the House.
This deadline is looming a couple of weeks, if I'm not mistaken.
What do you think the strategy needs to be for House Republicans?
So this is going to be a tough one because I really think that we might have to take one or two bites at the apple here.
Some people might want to hear about a short-term deal.
But the way this is laid out, if you do a debt ceiling deal in June, there might be one or two or a handful of things that you might be able to get.
But the Democrats are going to want to extend the debt ceiling past the presidential election.
That's about $2.6 trillion, give and take.
Well, unless you're getting massive spending reforms, I'm not giving you $2.6 trillion on a debt ceiling.
In September, we have the omnibus or not the omnibus.
We have the new budgetary funding for the government that's coming up because that was stupid deal they did in December.
They stole nine months of Congress from you.
That's exactly right.
And so if you try to find a way to combine the two or have debt ceiling go after the spending packages have to get done, it gives House Republicans more leverage.
By the way, people need to understand the timing of debt ceiling was done on purpose by Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, and Chuck Schumer.
It was laid this way on purpose so that it had to go first so that it didn't put us in the best position.
But the thing that they never counted on is that you have House Republicans who mean business.
And I think that that's what's been indicative these first two months.
And we're not going to take some sloppy deal or a side deal to just move the debt ceiling along.
So that's why I think we might get one or two bites at it.
And Kevin's been fighting.
And we have to make sure we just say to Kevin and his team, hey, you're not going to do a deal with Democrats.
Okay.
You're not going to get the debt ceiling without Republicans getting what they want.
Because that Boehner used to do.
Boehner used to do stuff like that all the time.
Sorry, closing thoughts, Byron.
One, that ain't going to happen.
Two, I'm glad that it's not that good.
If it comes up, it's going to be a problem.
Yeah, good.
So that's really good to hear.
I don't even think they're entertaining it, but Boehner did that all the time.
He'd be like, oh, I don't need you.
He would just go to the Democrats and be like, let's just raise the debt ceiling.
And Republicans were left holding the bag.
Byron, thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
Anytime.
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Let's play Cut 123 as a little bit of warm-up, and then we'll go right to Ben.
Play Cut 123.
Big group.
So they've already had close to 300 tonight.
The second group that they've had.
And now, you know, you see the Border Patrol assets that are having to be utilized here.
The cars, the personnel.
And what they're worried about is where are their groups of one or two or four that are coming through while everyone's focused on the immigration processing here.
Ben, what did you see on the border last evening?
Well, unfortunately, I saw more of the same, the open borders that Joe Biden and the left and Secretary Marorcus have invited into our country.
But we are seeing a few shifts.
One of those being China, huge numbers from China coming across.
And in speaking with Matt Gates, Congressman Matt Gates, again, it was an honor to be out there with him last night.
One of the hardest working congressional representatives we have, one of the biggest fighters we have out there.
But these huge numbers from China, large numbers still coming from the Middle East, all over.
And the moral of the story is nothing that the left is doing, nothing that Joe Biden's doing is doing anything to slow down this unprecedented invasion of our country by countries that are hostile to our nation.
Whether or not the Chinese nationals that are coming in want to get away from the CCP or communism or they're coming as bad actors working for the CCP, then we really don't know that.
And that's the reason why we have to have a secure border and legal immigration processes, which have just been completely undermined by this current administration.
Play cut 123, Jonathan from Yuma.
I know him.
He's actually given me a tour of the border.
He talks about how the cartel has a stash house right on the other side of the border.
500,000 illegals come through, each paying a minimum of $6,000.
This is modern day slavery.
Left doesn't care.
Left supports it.
Left is pro open borders, which is modern day slavery.
And they lecture us that we are systemically racist.
It's ridiculous.
It's laughable.
The cartel owns many aspects of the American political system.
The Mexican government could end this tomorrow if we actually had a president that cared about it.
Let's play cut 124.
Essentially, the reservation here begins.
And then right where that car is driving, Matt, just this side, there's a large date grove of trees right there.
Inside of that is one of the drop houses.
And so they will come from the Mexican airport.
They will wait right there.
And then they will cross in groups.
I mean, how many people do you think have been processed through that drop house?
Because you and I have been to this exact spot.
500,000 people at a minimum of $6,000 a person.
500,000 people at minimum of $6,000 a person.
Ben, this is rather sophisticated, and the government just doesn't care.
It's a huge operation.
Cartels have increased their profits.
A lot of you know this by 2,500%.
Last year, President Trump was around $500 million.
The cartel profited the cartels.
Now it's over $13 billion.
And this is simply going into the pockets of the cartels, but it's also going into the pockets of Democrats, socialists, communists, these leftists in America, the NGOs in America, and many of the governments outside of this country.
And I think the moral of the story of this is, you know, Kamala Harris goes around, does her pretend root cause analysis.
The moral of the story is the root cause is the left.
It's communism, it's socialism, it's corruption in all of these countries.
That's why we're seeing so many Brazilians leave Brazil now to escape Lula.
That's why we're seeing so many from Peru come.
Obviously, the Venezuelans and Cubans, but it's all by design to destroy this country from within.
It's all tied together.
This is why they had to throw everything they possibly could at Kerry Lake, and it's just so tragic.
This is why you had all those because Kerry Lake, she pledged to stop this day one.
Katie Hobbs, she loves this.
Katie Hobbs is celebrating.
She is dancing.
She is enthusiastic with 7,000 illegals crossing every day.
Ben, closing thoughts.
The cartels took over Arizona when they stole the election from Kerry Lake.
That's the bottom line.
We have a Secretary of State that is owned by the cartels in Arizona now.
Yep, Adrian Fontes.
You have Katie Hobbs, who's an enthusiastic promoter of this.
It's a tragedy.
It is.
We can't give up, but I'll tell you what, the Kerry Lake deal was really the solution for so much of this.
She had a plan.
She had the willingness.
She had the courage.
She had all of this.
And Ben, keep up the great work.
We appreciate it.
And by the way, on the Cary Lake front, we're going to have some breaking news with Cary Lake beginning of next week.
So, Ben, thank you so much.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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