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Feb. 22, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Can We Sue the Vax Traffickers? with Robert Barnes, Warner Mendenhall, and James Roguski
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Suing Vaccine Manufacturers 00:11:55
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How do you sue the vaccine manufacturers?
Also, what's going on at the WHO and why I think the reaction at Don Lamond's sloppy comments is way overblown.
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Okay, so let me kind of set this up.
There are a lot of people that have been harmed because of the MRNA gene altering shot called a vaccine.
But when you have a lot of people harmed, how do you then pursue justice?
How are you then able to remedy that?
Well, typically, you're able to go through the courts.
That's why the courts exist to be able to resolve civil matters, to be able to figure out if somebody was wronged and then be able to get a remedy.
Well, joining us now is Robert Barnes, a constitutional attorney who is here to explain a new effort, as well as Warner Mendenhall from the Mendenhall Law Group.
Robert and Warner, welcome to the program.
Glad to be here.
And glad to be here.
Thank you.
So, Robert, we'll start with you.
Robert, thank you for taking the time.
I'm an admirer of yours.
You're very clear on constitutional matters.
Tell us about your upcoming event in Atlanta, and then tell us about this journey that you are on to be able to represent people that were significantly harmed by the vaccine.
Absolutely.
So, you know, Werner helped put together the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation conference that's going to take place in Atlanta towards the end of March.
The goal is to bring a lot of lawyers together that are in this space to discuss what options and alternatives exist for those that want to be able to get remedy for the various injuries being caused by this vaccine.
As the vaccine adverse event reporting system designed by Congress to monitor and measure potential adverse effects from a vaccine, it has set records with this vaccine.
I mean, you're talking about 10x, 30x, 100x ratios of injury compared to prior vaccines.
And in fact, this vaccine has caused more injuries than all of the vaccines that have ever been recorded and reported by the VARES data since VARES inception, you know, almost three decades ago.
So that's excited for the conference.
Looking forward to that.
Credit to Steve Kirsch and others who are helping found the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation and to put forward remedies that could be available and put together the people that could help bring those remedies to come about within the legal system.
Currently, the Brooke Jackson case is the major case that could bring remedy.
Brooke Jackson is a whistleblower who brought a claim on behalf of the American people through the United States of America.
This is called the Key TAM Actions or False Claims Act claims.
Warner's been doing those for many decades.
I've been a part of them on and off for several decades.
Brooke Jackson is someone who is a sincere clinical trial person who helped make sure drugs were done in a manner that would produce safe and effective drugs.
She was part of and witnessed what was taking place at the very critical stage three of the clinical trials concerning Pfizer in Texas.
And what she witnessed shocked and horrified her.
Basically, if there was any rule you could violate, Pfizer did.
If there was any regulation you could ignore, Pfizer did.
If there was any metric or measurement of data that needed to be honestly and accurately reported, it was falsified or fabricated or otherwise doctored to mislead the government and mislead the American people, ultimately, into believing this was a safe, effective vaccine when it was not safe, it was not effective, and it was not even a vaccine.
She's brought her claim on behalf of the American people because Pfizer obtained billions of dollars from the government based on these lies that they told.
Their contract required they comply with the FDA rules and requirements.
Their contract required they deliver a safe, effective vaccine that would, in quote, in the exact words of the contract under Trump's Operation Warp Speed, provide a drug that would prevent COVID infection.
Of course, we now know it did no such thing.
They lied.
Now, their excuse is that the Biden administration is in cahoots with Pfizer, and so the case shouldn't be allowed to move forward on behalf of the American people because they say that as long as the Biden administration is in cahoots with them, they shouldn't be held responsible or accountable for their dangerous lies that have disabled and killed tens of thousands, maybe even millions of people around the world as we gather data.
Her case is scheduled for oral argument in Beaumont, Texas on March the 1st.
So, Warner, taking a step back here, something I'm curious about: aren't the vaccine companies basically protected or indemnified through an act of Congress in the 1980s?
Basically, don't all the cases just get put into the vaccine injury recovery fund, excuse my lack of precision on the language, but isn't there a taxpayer-funded pool of money to solve this?
What makes your legal complaints to be able to navigate that?
Well, I mean, there is a taxpayer pool of funding, but it's minuscule and it hasn't worked ever since it was put into place.
So, it's clearly not a useful tool for people.
Not that they shouldn't try to do it.
I think more productively, and we've seen this in the court cases, and we're going to be working through this.
Our core challenges to the fact that this shot really is not like any quote-unquote vaccine that we've ever seen.
There's no neutralizing immunity.
In fact, it seems as you get more boosters, recent studies show that you are more likely to contract COVID or other diseases.
So, this is not a vaccine in any traditional sense.
There is a case out there.
It's actually called the Griner case, not to be confused with Brittany Griner.
But Dr. Griner brought a lawsuit about the definition of vaccine.
So, we need to go back to these definitional issues, challenge them, fight these through the courts, and get this thing classified as something other than a vaccine, because really it's a biological product.
That's first.
Second, we do need to look at the PrEP Act and the immunity that was put forth by the PrEP Act.
We think that that has violated the traditional police powers of the states and the cities in this country.
So, these are core ideas and core issues that have really changed the functioning of our country.
And then, finally, at a bigger level, we need to look at what the WHO is doing and make sure that we're not losing sovereignty through international treaties and agreements.
So just really quick, let me just make sure I understand that the technical definition of a vaccine versus a biological or a treatment is actually very important here, right?
Because if the pharmaceutical companies are able to convince a judge or a jury that this is a vaccine, then it would fall under the federal government protections.
Is that right?
Correct.
Okay.
And so, Robert, do you have a thought on that?
Yeah, so it's two-fold component.
One is, did they misrepresent, like the advantage of the False Claims Act is it's outside of those immunity claims.
So if you lie to the government to get money, then you can, this came about after the Civil War because so many contractors provided, you know, bad blankets, bad food, bad boots, you name it.
And the government was off, some of the government agents and bureaucrats were in on it.
And so Congress said, we got to fix this.
We got to allow the ordinary American, if they know information about this, to bring a claim on behalf of the American people without regard to the American government if somebody lied to get money from the government or the people's taxpayers.
And here, that's what happened.
Pfizer lied.
And one of the things Pfizer lied about, the contract said you must deliver a product that will prevent COVID infection.
That's the traditional historical medical definition of a vaccine.
You prevent infection.
You prevent transmission.
This didn't do that because it wasn't a vaccine.
They got the FDA.
You know, so hard, but they'll just say in court, it just was a bad vaccine.
That doesn't mean it's not a vaccine, though, right?
That's what...
Not in this context.
If I was Pfizer's lawyer, that would just say.
So sorry, please continue.
Oh, yeah.
Well, basically what the Pfizer did is they said, you know, the FDA redefined vaccine, so it's all okay.
But that's not what Trump's Defense Department required.
They said, deliver us a product that will prevent COVID infection.
They went out and told kids and parents, this is a vaccine.
It's not.
It doesn't inoculate against anything.
It's a gene therapy.
That's all it is.
Right.
Less about the ability to prevent infection.
Because if I was Pfizer's lawyer, they'd say, well, just because it didn't do exactly what we wanted it to didn't mean it's not the thing that you're saying it is.
But the final argument you just made as a gene therapy, now I think we're getting into the crux of it because it actually isn't the same as the polio vaccine I had when I was a kid or the MMR vaccine.
It actually is a whole different type of thing.
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Just a reminder, your conference is coming up.
Just remind our audience about the conference.
Warner, you first.
March 25th and 26th in Atlanta.
We're trying to get attorneys together to really spread the word about the types of litigation that can be pursued and what we can do to help rebuild this country through legislation and litigation.
So, for either of you, you guys can jump in here.
State Rights and Treaties 00:15:31
But from what I understand, the crux of this entire legal challenge is whether or not the protections that the vaccine companies received because of the bill that was passed into law in the 80s applies to mRNA technology.
Is that basically correct?
Oh, yeah, I was going to say that in terms of Brooks' case, it's outside of that.
For Brooks' case, it's all about did Pfizer lie?
Did Pfizer know that it wasn't safe?
Did Pfizer know it wasn't effective?
Did Pfizer know it didn't prevent infection?
Did Pfizer know that they were doctoring data?
Did Pfizer doctor data?
I mean, it was so bad.
If you walked into a Pfizer clinical trial, you could see needles sticking out of bags and you could see people's medical records plastered on the wall.
The janitor could figure out, you know, who has what disease.
It's supposed to be a placebo blind test.
It wasn't blind.
Everybody knew who was getting what because it was unblinded.
All the things that were required by the Defense Department were not performed by Pfizer.
And their excuse is solely, the Biden administration is with us.
So, judge, don't allow any discovery.
Don't allow the case to go forward.
We'll find out at the oral argument March 1st where that's going to go.
In terms of challenging for injuries, that is the trickier part.
And Warner can speak to some of the difficulties and hurdles we have about getting remedy for people that have been injured by this vaccine.
Yeah, please, Warner.
Yeah, certainly it's important to establish that there's fraud at the beginning of all this with the clinical trials, not just for Pfizer, by the way, but for other companies that were out there.
They all are using similar clinical trial processes, and those clinical trial processes are horribly corrupted at this point in the way our system is running them.
More difficult, as Robert says, is that we have now got millions of people who've been injured by these shots and at least hundreds of thousands dead just in our country.
So we need to strip away this idea that this is a vaccine in the first place so that the liability can be opened up.
And we need to strip away the protections of the PrEP Act.
So those are longer-term efforts, but they are really necessary to engage in.
The second thing that I think can happen, we need our politicians to wake up to what needs to happen there.
Just like with the sexual abuse cases, we need to open this back up.
There's been an abuse of the population here, and we need to extend the statute's limitations so these families can get some recovery for the loved ones that they have lost and the loved ones that they are having to care for due to injuries right now.
So those are the pathways.
It's not easy, but it is going to take the people of this country taking back their power and moving their politicians in the right direction.
I can imagine that Pfizer and these vaccine manufacturers are going to throw everything they possibly can at you guys.
How many active lawsuits are there against these vaccine manufacturers right now?
Just be at a ballpark.
Well, right now, the only big whistleblower claim is Brooke Taxon's claim.
That's why they've attacked her repeatedly in the court.
They've attacked me personally repeatedly in the court.
They've induced the court to talk about tweets and things like that because their goal has been a campaign of distraction, of the attack the lawyer, attack the whistleblower, attack everybody except deal with the truth.
They've been obsessed with not allowing any discovery in the case.
If Pfizer is so innocent, why are they so scared of a little discovery?
It's a sign of guilt.
I mean, Pfizer is one of the most criminally fined drug dealers in the history of the world.
I mean, they make El Chapo look like a corner street drug dealer by comparison.
Nobody kills people and disables people as much as Pfizer does.
And we have the criminal fines to prove it.
And this has probably been their worst violation of human rights and Americans' rights in the history of America in terms of public health.
And the question is: are we going to get remedy?
Are the courts going to continue to be closed?
Are they continuing to help cover up Pfizer's crimes?
Or will they help expose those crimes?
The same with if the courts are closed, will Congress step up to the gap and fix the laws?
We shouldn't, you know, we have the childhood immunization laws from the 80s, we have the PrEP Act from the early 2000s.
These are bad laws.
These laws, whenever you create a situation where a drug company has nothing to lose from lying to the American people and pushing a drug on them because they're completely immune, they have guaranteed profits and no liability risk.
That's a bad combination for public health.
And Americans are seeing the consequence.
Kids like Maddie DeGray are seeing the consequences.
People are being disabled and killed all across the world because of this.
So we need to put a stop to it.
And it's time for some of our politicians.
And I hope some of the ones that just got elected, like Senator Vance, start taking the lead to change this once and for all.
Warner and Robert, best of luck.
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Joining us now is James Roguski, who is doing some phenomenal research on stopping the WHO.
You could check it out at stopthewho.com.
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James, welcome back to the program.
Thank you so much for having me.
It's very timely because a lot of things are going on with the WHO.
Tell us what's going on with the WHO right now.
Well, right now, this week, they are having week-long meetings with the working group to consider amendments to the international health regulations.
What's going on outside in the media world is everybody's talking about something else.
They're talking about the proposed pandemic treaty, which they will be having meetings with a different group next week.
The Intergovernmental Negotiating Body will be talking about the proposed treaty next week.
And what I've been seeing in the media is just a lot of information.
So there are documents that are readily available on the WHO website.
I put that in the chat.
Hopefully, you can share that with your viewers.
They have endless pages after pages after pages of proposed amendments to existing regulations from about 90 different nations.
And so they're discussing these things right now.
Some of the meetings have been in private.
Some of them have been public.
And essentially, what's happening these next two weeks is they are somehow transitioning from collecting proposals for the amendments in the treaty and then shifting towards negotiating.
And so at this moment in time, our negotiators are, I do not believe, legally certified to be even involved in negotiating these changes to the regulations.
And we, the people, have certainly not been consulted as to whether or not we even want any of this to be happening.
And so arguably, this is a global coup where nations around the world are trying to transfer their sovereignty, their control, their authority over to the WHO.
And as a consequence of that, if the World Health Assembly were to adopt those changes, it would drag all of the members of the WHO along with it.
And I think ultimately the best answer is to exit the WHO because it's become an abusive relationship that wants to take control of every aspect of health by changing regulations where our silence would be viewed as consent.
So thank you for giving me a voice to speak.
Yes, is it true that they are avoiding the term treaty because then that would circumvent Senate authorization or oversight?
Well, that's complicated.
So let me make sure that there's two separate things that people are aware of.
There are two completely separate paths that are being negotiated in the World Health Constitution, World Health Organization's Constitution.
In Article 19 and 20, they talk about a convention or an agreement.
In Articles 21 and 22, they talk about other international instruments.
In our Constitution, people are familiar with a treaty.
All you really need to know are two things, right?
We've, our nation, the United States, have been brought into tens of thousands of international entanglements with the simple signature of a president.
Biden signed the Paris Climate Accords.
I'm sorry, Obama signed the Paris Climate Accords.
Trump signed us out of it.
Biden signed us back in.
So the concept of a treaty is a novel idea that's unique to the United States.
And the founding fathers, you know, clarity over 250 years or so has just been shredded.
We are involved in many agreements that do not meet their requirements.
One last thing, if I may.
Last year, Biden proposed amendments to the existing regulations.
They were kicked to the curb, but a totally separate collection of amendments to five articles were submitted by a group of nations, including the United States.
They were adopted last year.
And that's all it took.
There was no presidential signature.
There was no Senate confirmation.
So all of the evidence anybody needs is what happened last year.
They amended the regulations last year.
And that's all that needed to be done was they just adopted it.
So let me ask you, James, where are they meeting?
And does the United States have a person that has a role that is technically working in the group, part of the working community?
Who is our liaison to this meeting?
Again, there's two separate groups.
So this week is the working group for the international health regulations.
And Colin McGiff, MCIFF, is actually a vice chairperson of the working group itself.
The United States sends a delegation of like 50 people.
So there are many, many, many other people involved.
But generally, the chief delegate is Javier Becera, the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Now, next week, in the intergovernmental negotiating body about what everybody just calls the pandemic treaty, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, a couple of months ago, named Pamela Hamamoto as the ambassador to take charge of the negotiations for the quote-unquote pandemic treaty.
And so, different groups, different negotiations, somewhat different people.
There's a lot of overlap.
Here's what my concern is: many, many nations, especially the European Union, have proposed a global digital health certificate.
The European Union has 27 nations.
Indonesia, Russia, Armenia, and a handful of other nations have put forth proposals to essentially implement a Chinese-style track and trace.
You have to have a QR code, a vaccine certificate, a prophylaxis certificate, a testing certificate, a passenger locator form, a recovery certificate.
That's really what I believe they want.
And that is not discussed in the discussions about the treaty.
I think that's a bit of a decoy out there.
These proposed amendments for this tracking and tracing digital health certificate are in the discussions about the proposed amendments.
Are they meeting mostly by Zoom right now, or is there a physical meeting that is happening?
It's a mixed meeting.
There are plenty of people in the plenary hall at the Palace of Nations in Geneva.
Okay.
Some people dial it in via Zoom.
Okay.
And so if you were to rank like a threat assessment analysis, what do you think warrants the most concern and focus and energy of all the things that they're discussing right now at the WHO?
They have a lot of crazy things that you can't ignore.
But I think ultimately, if we're able to stop them from putting us in a digital prison, that stops a lot of what they want to do.
And so I've also put together a page called rejectdigitalenslavement.com.
And this is something that they have been pushing for and pushing for.
And Europe, especially, many of the people and the nations there are starting to become comfortable with the idea that you have to have a QR code.
Now, it doesn't mean you have to have a phone.
You can have a printed QR code.
But while people in the United States are very familiar with their Second Amendment rights and their First Amendment rights, we're talking here about Fourth and Tenth Amendment.
The Fourth Amendment is supposed to protect your right to privacy.
And the mistake that almost everybody makes if they ever go to the doctor or hospital or clinic is they sign in and they check the box that essentially gives all of your data and allows the hospital to share it with the world.
That's, I would say, a mistake.
Don't do that.
Come with your own paperwork controlling your own data.
The 10th Amendment, back in May last year, Louisiana, God bless them, the Assembly agreed to a resolution that, in my own words, you know, paraphrasing, said to the WHO: you don't have authority over the state of Louisiana.
Any health changes would have to go through a referendum where the people of Louisiana would approve it.
Even on page 61 of the international health regulations right now, when the U.S. agreed to the changes that happened in 2005, the mission to Geneva, when they agreed to what those changes were, said very clearly, well, we're a federal government.
Confusing Health Regulations 00:03:29
We can't control health in the states.
This is really a state's rights issue.
So every individual person in every state in the country has to get on their assembly and their state legislature to stand up for the fact that the federal government does not have any authority to tell people in any given state what they can or cannot do in regards to health.
And there have been a handful of states who have stood up for that state's rights issue.
So the meetings... goes on for a couple days right now.
And all week.
You're up to like 4 a.m., right?
You watch the whole thing.
You're a citizen journalist consuming all of this.
They actually are doing it in Geneva, so it kind of starts at midnight and runs all through the night.
And they've given me a break because some of the meetings are closed.
Some of them are being done in secret.
And probably what is likely to occur is at some point, they're going to shift to negotiation mode.
And there's a part of me that can understand that when you're in serious negotiations with multiple nations, that's not the kind of thing that you want to broadcast publicly.
You want people to be able to speak freely.
But the different nations are all tugging the World Health Organization apart at the seams.
Gimme, gimme, gimme.
This nation wants this.
This nation wants that.
The United States has proposals.
The EU, Africa, Indonesia, Japan, everybody.
It's a soap opera, Charlie.
I want to thank you for your tenacity on this.
It's incredibly important.
And as you learn things, you can come right on this program.
The websites again for action items?
The easiest thing to remember, I think, is stoptheglobalagenda.com.
All the information is there.
And I give everybody my phone number, Charlie.
Don't be scared when I do this on live radio.
I do it all the time.
My phone number is 310-619-3055.
Every day, twice a day, I do a Zoom meeting at 3 and 10 p.m. Eastern Time, and everybody's invited to attend.
Very good.
James, thank you so much.
Thank you.
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CNN Backlash Explained 00:05:37
It's so confusing to remember the rules.
One of the characteristics of a tyrannical regime is the rules are constantly changing.
And I can't even remember all the rules of what you're allowed to say and not allowed to say.
And that is why political correctness is inherently tyrannical.
So Don Laman is a gay black man.
And that actually does matter in this instance because he thinks he's invincible.
He thinks he's allowed to say whatever he wants.
So he doesn't really watch his words very closely or carefully.
So, Don Lamont is on the rarely watched morning show of CNN.
And so many people were outraged about what he said.
He shouldn't have said it.
It was definitely sloppy and honestly really kind of cruel to say around two women.
But did it deserve the outrage it received?
Absolutely not.
Let's listen to the whole clip here: PlayCut 51.
This whole talk about age makes me uncomfortable.
I think that I think it's the wrong road to go down.
She says, People, you know, politicians or something are not in their prime.
Nikki Haley isn't in her prime.
Sorry.
A woman is considered to be in her prime in her 20s and 30s and maybe 40s.
What do you talk about?
Wait.
That's not according to me.
Prime for what?
It depends.
It's just like prime.
If you look it up, if you Google when is a woman in her prime, it'll say 20s, 30s, and 40s.
I don't know.
I got it in the middle.
I'm not saying I agree with that.
So I think she has to be careful about saying that politicians aren't in their prime.
We need to qualify.
Are you talking about prime for like child aboring?
Or are you talking about the momentum?
What is the president?
The facts are Google at everybody at home.
When is a woman in her prime?
It says 20s, 30s, and 40s.
And I'm just saying, Nikki Haley should be careful about saying that politicians are not in their prime and they need to be in their prime when they serve because she wouldn't be in her prime according to Google or whatever it is.
You have not seen a retreat so vivid since the Nazis invaded France and they run into the hills.
Don Lamond was trying everything he possibly could to wave a white flag.
Oh my goodness.
He knew he messed up about 20 seconds into that.
He was like, whoa, oh, did I just say that?
See, you see, he thought he had a cloak of invincibility because he's a gay black man.
So he thinks a lot of say, just Google it.
Women are no longer in their prime.
I mean, look, that's not a, first of all, it's not true.
And it's not a, it's not really being kind to your two female anchors or co-hosts to kind of connect it to Nikki Haley.
It's also just bad commentary.
It really doesn't make a lot of sense at all, to be perfectly honest with you.
But I will say this, though, Don Lamond and the reaction he received, I think, was unwarranted.
I think you should have said, okay, that was stupid.
Don't say that.
Clarify.
And by the way, he even backpedaled people say dumb things all the time to kind of put them in the strange penalty box and to make a big deal out of it.
I don't think was the right response.
But I will say the backlash that he received was rather perplexing to me because it does beg a question.
Do we now care about protecting women?
Is that now a stated goal of the media that women can't be insulted?
That women can't be talked down to?
I agree with that.
But then why do we allow men into female locker rooms to expose their private parts?
So we must protect women from mean, gay, black news hosts, but not men in their locker rooms or in their bathrooms.
Help me understand that one.
No, it's because there were some very sensitive women in the CNN staffing room, certainly in the CNN HR department, and obviously on the CNN set that got really triggered and offended.
They probably didn't like Don anyway, and this probably brought it over the edge.
And now Don is like groveling and he wants his job back and he goes, has to go through formal training following sexist comments and all this sort of nonsense.
And however, what's interesting, though, is that, okay, so the media is really, so you're allowed, so teenage girls with men in their bathroom, perfectly fine, but you can't attack women that are getting older.
That's interesting.
So I'm just trying to understand the rules because it's ever-changing, which again is a sign you're living in a tyrannical, politically correct country.
But how often are you allowed to go on television and engage in the tired trope that men are stupid?
Men are pigs.
Men forget their car keys.
Men don't know where they're going.
I mean, from commercials to family guy to Simpsons to how many pop cultural narratives have this trope of the suburban, usually white, overweight father who's a clumsy, bubbling idiot who's forgetful, drinks too much beer, and falls asleep on the couch.
That's perfectly fine.
If Don Lamond would have been like, you know, Donald Trump is no longer in his prime because men tend to lose their mind as they get older.
They'll be like, oh, that's hilarious.
That's totally true.
Men do.
And you know what?
They're probably lazy and dumb.
And then we'll be back more with CNN Morning Show.
But you say something insensitive towards women, the whole world loses its mind.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.
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