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Feb. 21, 2023 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Rage Against the War Machine with Kash Patel and Tara Reade
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Biden Visits Zelensky 00:09:09
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Biden visits Zelensky.
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Your president is visiting his prized constituents in Ukraine.
Now, I have to say, many of you are fired up, and you should be.
Why is he not visiting Ohio?
Why is he not focusing on issues here domestically?
And that is the right sentiment.
However, the fact that we spent $100 billion in Ukraine, we're acting as if Ukraine is more like America than our own country.
Is it the 51st state?
That's a simple question.
But hey, I actually don't think it's a waste of time if you're doing the right thing when you go to visit Ukraine.
And Biden is doing the opposite of the right thing.
Yes, he should be visiting some of the catastrophes and disasters happening in our homeland first, but we're talking about what is neoliberalism.
Neoliberalism is caring more about the needs, wants, and concerns of foreigners than that of your own citizens.
Tyrants, dictators, and despots have a fetish for the needs, wants, and concerns of something that is foreign, and they really are disinterested in your life, in the life of an American.
So Biden is in the middle of the Ukrainian war zone.
And yes, I totally agree.
He should be in East Palestine.
He should be mobilizing FEMA.
He should be concerned about our own country.
But visiting Ukraine, I don't think is necessarily a waste of time.
If you are using the bully pulpit, if you are using American strength, if you are using the power of the presidency to broker peace.
If you are saying, hey, let's end this war.
Now, I believe Joe Biden does have deep-seated contempt for large parts of America.
I think he really does, I think he hates Midwest Trump America.
But all that aside, if you are going to visit Ukraine, if you're going to visit Eastern Europe in the middle of this proxy war that is about to hit a whole, it's about to enter a whole new chapter in about a week and a half.
It seems as if Putin is going to put his foot on the accelerator.
And what are we doing?
What is our government doing?
Well, Joe Biden is doing the exact opposite, and it's going to put America at risk.
It's going to put more of our money at risk.
And the most immediate and sad fact is that tens of thousands of people are going to unnecessarily die in the next couple of weeks.
But look, the question is, what is he there for?
Is he there to help broker a peace deal to calm things down?
Or is he there to act like gas on a flame and igniting a potential World War III?
Look, U.S. presidents have a good history of brokering peace.
One of my favorite examples is Teddy Roosevelt, who hosted the negotiations between Russia and Japan and ended the Russo-Japanese war.
He won a Nobel Peace Prize for that.
Remember, President Trump normalized relations between Israel and several Arab countries, and he did more than any other president to try and facilitate a thaw with North Korea.
So that's what we should be trying to do in Ukraine.
Instead, Joe Biden is doing the exact opposite.
He's doing the exact opposite because you see, neoliberalism and the machine that relies on neoliberal ideas of invading the world and inviting the world, that war machine is hungry.
After the war in Afghanistan is ended, after ISIS was destroyed by President Trump, you have to feed the beast.
And the beast sees endless profits in eastern Ukraine.
They see an amazing opportunity.
The appetite of the war machine of Raytheon and Northrop Grumman and Lockheed Martin and Boeing, they see a huge financial upside by continuing, accelerating, and expanding the carnage in eastern Ukraine and with Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
So Joe Biden is there right now.
What are we hearing from Joe Biden?
He said that we are going to support Ukraine for as long as it takes.
That means another year, another five years, another 10 years, and let's make sure we have our facts right.
I know we obviously have a very conservative audience, and I know based on your emails you send me, freedom at charliekirk.com, you are against the war in Ukraine, but several of your Republican senators and several of your Republican congressmen are the most enthusiastic advocates for this new endless war.
So this is not just Joe Biden.
This is both parties.
In fact, Republicans are pushing for even more aid in Ukraine.
Joe Biden in cut four, the United States will support Ukraine for as long as it takes.
There is no end date.
There is no limit.
Is Ukraine one of the states in our country?
Might as well be.
For neoliberals, they don't see borders.
Borders are an abstract concept.
We're all one world.
Play cut four.
Freedom is priceless.
It's worth fighting for for as long as it takes.
And that's how long we're going to be with you, Mr. President.
For as long as it takes.
We'll do it.
Thank you, John.
I mean, I just get a kick out of saying that Zelensky represents freedom, the man that bans political parties, the man that literally does not allow the Russian Orthodox Church from existing or worshiping in mainland Ukraine.
Zelensky is a corrupt oligarch.
Does that mean he deserves and his people deserve to be invaded by Putin?
No.
But to make Zelensky somehow the standard bearer of Western freedom is just laughable.
It's silly.
But isn't it interesting?
How is what Joe Biden just said any different than what Nikki Haley said last week?
I want you to hear what Joe Biden said.
It's about freedom.
It's about freedom.
That is precisely the same talking point that Nikki Haley used in her interview with David Brody from Real America's Voice did a phenomenal job.
And she said, look, it's about freedom.
It's about freedom.
Wait a second.
When Joe Biden and Nikki Haley are saying the exact same thing about a corrupt oligarch where we have spent anywhere between 100 to 200 billion and we are quickly stumbling towards a thermonuclear conflict, which I pray never happens, then what are we doing here?
That should expose to you that this is not a Democrat issue.
This is a uniparty issue.
This is a uniparty government issue where people like Lady Graham and Joe Biden, they are more concerned.
In fact, they are obsessed with what's happening in Ukraine, but they will not be bothered by the drug overdose crisis, the mental health crisis.
No, no, no, that is.
Americans can fend for themselves.
Play cut eight.
But what Secretary Blinken said is big news to me.
He believes that the Chinese are on the verge of providing lethal weapons to Putin.
So that's why we should designate Russia a state-sponsored terrorism, because if you do that under U.S. law and China provides lethal weapons, they will get sanctioned.
And to the Chinese, if you jump on the Putin train now, you're dumber than dirt.
It would be like buying a ticket on the Titanic after you saw the movie.
Our actions are just driving Russia into China's arms.
Our actions are getting us closer to a conflict that will not be resolved through prudent or mature means.
Strong Cell Anti-Aging Enzyme 00:03:08
What does success look like?
Freedom is what I'm told.
Okay, can you answer what success looks like without using an abstraction?
I'm all for freedom.
That's a very complex word, though.
It's a complex word because what do you mean by that?
Do you mean self-government?
Do you mean the rule of law?
Do you mean separation of powers?
Do you mean a constitutional republic?
Or do you use that as kind of a facade, as a mirage, as a smokescreen so that we stop asking questions?
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Investing in America First 00:14:38
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Great to be back with you, Charlie.
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So, Cash, there's a lot of news to cover here.
First, let's talk about Ukraine.
You know, you were chief of staff to DOD.
That was the title, right?
So you were at the top and you were executing on the America First foreign policy, which is strength, but no endless wars, prudence, dialogue, trying to broker peace.
We have the opposite happening right now.
So first, I want to play Joe Biden saying we're going to support the U.S. We're going to support Ukraine for as long as it takes.
And he says it's about freedom.
And then I'm going to play a tape of Nikki Haley.
And you got to wonder, what's the difference?
Play cut four first.
Freedom is priceless.
It's worth fighting for for as long as it takes.
And that's how long we're going to be with you, Mr. President.
For as long as it takes.
We'll do it.
Thank you.
Now listen to CUT 21.
It's almost the exact same script.
We have the backs of our friends and we hold our enemies to account.
And, you know, whether it's Ukraine or Israel, we take care of them because it's about freedom.
And we can never stop fighting for freedom.
This isn't a war about Ukraine.
This is a war about freedom.
We have to make sure we send a message to every enemy that if you mess with our friends, you're messing with us and you don't want to do that.
And that, therefore, is America first, in essence.
It is taking care of America because we're preventing wars.
So, Cash, we now have literally, if you were to read the transcripts unattributed and just guess, it's exactly the same.
Why is it that Republicans and Democrats can't agree on things that matter, but the things they can agree on is helping foreign countries in proxy wars against nuclear-armed powers?
There's one thing and one thing alone, and it's the biggest problem facing the United States government.
It's what I talk about in my book, Government Gangsters.
It's called the Defense Industrial Complex.
When I was chief of staff at the Department of Defense, I called the CEOs of the five biggest defense industrial contractors, Boeing, Lockheed, Northrop Grumman, McDonnell Douglas, and one other.
Four of them called me back on the same day.
One did not.
And I said, listen, you all provide an invaluable service in defense of our country, but I've also seen each one of your companies like tens of billions of dollars on fire.
That money goes straight to the lobbying powerhouse in Washington, D.C. and the golden parachutes to people like Adam Kinzinger and Mark Esper when they leave government.
The war machine, make no mistake about it, is a third of the defense industrial complex's budget, and it is never ending, which is why you see these politicians, these government gangsters, put it at the top and hide it under the pretext of international freedom and peace.
We, I, led the effort to withdraw out of Afghanistan successfully along with Iraq, Syria, and Somalia.
It's possible.
That's an America first agenda that actually worked.
But you have to be willing to take on the biggest swamp machine that ever existed.
And I mean more so than the RNC and the DNC, and that's the defense industrial complex.
So, Cash, Joe Biden visited Ukraine today or yesterday.
I mean, the day is kind of blurred because they're like nine hours ahead of us, but let's just say in the last couple of hours, Joe Biden was in Ukraine.
This was a surprise visit, and yet I did not hear any mention of peace or for trying to get closer to peace.
In fact, it seemed as if Biden was tilting his hand to the opposite.
It seemed as if he was talking about extending, intensifying, and accelerating the conflict in Ukraine.
Almost an indefinite proxy war that could end up costing us more than a trillion dollars, already nearly at least 100 billion, could be as much as 200 billion.
We're just guessing at this point.
And all the while, where it's almost, it's almost a conclusive fact that we know we bombed Nordstream, the pipeline, which is an act of war against Russia.
Why is it that Joe Biden and his lackeys and his Republican allies, such as Lady Graham, why do they want war so badly?
It goes back to what I said, but let me bring in Hollywood to complete the circle.
Our favorite actor, Sean Penn, just put out a headline that said the United States is effed unless it provides immediate and all-military assistance to Ukraine.
These people, Joe Biden and company, take their national security marching orders from the radical left-wing agenda and the Hollywood elitists because they think it's cool to wear a button that's yellow and blue and not go to East Palestine, Ohio, where thousands of Americans have been put in harm's way.
But it's a, because no one wants to cover that on CNN and New York Times, but they want to fly over and bring the war machine over there.
And listen, I have said this on your show before.
The Ukraine is the next modern-day Afghanistan.
United States conventional soldiers will be on the ground in the Ukraine inside of a year.
I've been saying that for the last two years, saying two years before that.
So what I mean by that is the machinery and weaponry we send over there, these tanks, these missile defense systems, these surface-to-air things, they require American contractors who are already on the ground to repair, operate, maintain, and educate the Ukrainians on how to do this type of warfare.
We will be there soon because we are doing the exact same thing that got us into Afghanistan for 20 years by sending north of a trillion dollars over there.
And our treasure is already invested in Ukraine and our blood is soon to follow.
And we don't have any we do have congressional approval of funding, but how about a congressional approval for war?
If we're going to send our troops into a theater that could result into World War III, a nice up or down vote would be would be really helpful.
Just very simple up or down vote.
Okay, let's go to Lady Graham, cut two.
Of course, he won't be distracted by East Palestine, Ohio.
Why?
I have a separate complaint about this.
When he wanted to go endorse Donald Trump, President Trump should have been like, yeah, I don't want your endorsement.
I actually think it Wincin's campaign.
Play cut two.
I'm not worried about provoking Putin.
I want to beat him.
And how do you beat him?
You beat him by giving the Ukrainians the military capability to drive the Russians out of Ukraine.
And I've never been more optimistic about winning this war in Ukraine than I am right now.
I see solidarity across the aisle in America and across the seas.
Now, this is a rather, this is a side note, but Cash, maybe you can help me.
It seems the most energized and the most passionate cable news segments that some of these people have from Kinzinger to Graham is around the topic of war.
I don't see that kind of animating energy around train derailments or plane delays or drug overdoses or southern border.
That's not to say they don't mention it, but when they really get that kind of zeal where they really get worked up, when they use the most emotionally charged language, it's about conflicts happening 5,000 miles away.
You're absolutely right.
And listen, they have sort of flipped the narrative from who was saying these things when we're talking about Afghanistan and Iraq after 2011 to now.
Now they're saying in unison, before it used to be Republicans versus Democrats, now they all want to say.
And here's the scary thing, Charlie.
The people that are charged with the leadership and defense of our country are actually saying, like your clip just played, that we can win.
And of course we want to defeat Putin at all costs, but they're saying we can win and the Ukraine can win by just shipping stuff over there.
Remember Afghanistan?
Remember these people who said, oh, if we just give aid to the Taliban and local government, we can beat Al-Qaeda.
We put the greatest military force on God's green earth into Afghanistan for 20 years and we didn't win.
Do we really think by sending tanks and service to air missiles and $200 billion to Ukraine that that is going to be the measure of success that defeats Putin in this conflict or war, as we actually, as it should be called?
That's where these politicians always make their mistake.
And they don't talk about the one thing to me that matters the most.
How many American service members are going to be injured or more or worse, die in the Ukrainian conflict in the years to come because you're investing America's future in it by burying our tax dollars overseas instead of spending them here on America-first policies.
It's going to be a tragic, tragic day when the first plane load of American soldiers goes over there to fight yet another never-ending war.
And it could be happening very soon.
Putin is about to plan a very aggressive, let's just say spring campaign.
He has about a six-week window before the Russian-Ukrainian mud season kicks in.
It's this very specific window.
And then obviously there'll be a lot of fighting over the summer.
But all satellite imagery that has been made public and the war commentators that aren't purchased by Raytheon or Northrop Grumman, they're trying to warn people it's about to be a bloodbath.
A bloodbath is imminent.
And what is Joe Biden doing there?
Well, is Joe Biden trying to calm down the tensions?
Were there any peace talks that happened here?
Was there any kind of dialogue or negotiation or at least the attempt to get the two parties in the room to say, hey, there's probably going to be 100,000 human beings that are young, ages 18 to 24 on both sides that are going to die in the next 90 days?
Maybe we should just exhaust all of our options.
But no, instead, Joe Biden waddles into Kyiv and is basically a proxy of the CIA of the deep state of our government, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, and Boeing.
They stand to make a ton of money, and it really is a tragedy.
And the Democrats are totally on board for this.
Obviously, they used to be the anti-war party, but no longer.
They are now the most enthusiastic proponents for perpetual, endless, silly, and meaningless wars.
It's a tragedy.
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Okay, joining us now is Tara Reid.
Tara, tell us about the anti-war demonstration this last weekend.
Sure.
Okay, can you hear me okay?
Yes, please proceed.
Perfect.
Hi.
Thank you so much for having me on the show.
I really appreciate it.
And I appreciate all the breaking news that you're telling.
I was really shocked by that to hear that.
Thank you.
James O'Keefe is a hero to many.
Yes, he is.
I feel like we're in just the struggle, you know, right now between good and evil, to be honest with you.
It just feels almost overwhelming sometimes.
But this weekend was a gathering of conservative voices, a lot of conservative voices, some lefties, some whatever.
But it was just people with very different views.
I mean, you had Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, Tulsi Gabbard, Jimmy Dore, Max Blumenthal, myself.
I was speaking, Kim Iverson.
And we were all saying one thing: no more money to Ukraine.
Seriously, that's just so obvious.
Please continue.
Well, we've spent almost $100 billion in weapons and aid.
And then just a couple of days ago, I'm not sure if you've had a chance to talk to your audience about this, but Joe Biden promised that more money could go for Ukrainian pensions, their government pensions.
And it's shocking, really.
I mean, there are many Americans that need pensions.
And in my opinion, this is a money laundering scheme, and Biden is very entrenched in it, and he should be investigated.
And what I mean about the struggle between good and evil is that this war is harming so many.
It's really a proxy war of the U.S. against Russia via Ukraine.
But the Ukrainians are dying.
Russians are dying.
Europeans are being driven into bankruptcy.
And there's war crimes being committed against the residents of Donbass.
They're not being allowed to practice their religion.
Their language has been taken away and their culture by the Kiev regime.
And that's not democracy.
So America and NATO are saying they're defending democracy, but that's not a democracy, in my opinion.
No, no.
And yeah, so it's hard to see all these billions when we have Americans suffering here.
And I feel strongly because I used to be a Democrat and I used to be, you know, years ago, I worked for Leon Panetta as an intern and then, you know, had my terrible experience with Senator Biden.
And I can tell you, you know, and tell your audience that I witnessed a lot of corruption and I'm still witnessing it.
And now it's affecting our whole country.
And we're on the brink of nuclear war.
And we're on the wrong side of history.
America is on the wrong side of history.
We're backing neo-Nazis in Ukraine and evil.
That's what we are.
So just closing thought here, though.
Are you starting to see more and more Democrats speak out against this?
No, really.
I mean, where is AOC?
Where are these progressives supposedly on anti-war?
I don't see them at all.
I mean, and in fact, you know, we had this very successful rally where thousands of people came, but where was the mainstream media?
They weren't there.
The only, actually, the only show besides yourself that talks about this has been Tucker Carlson.
The Uniparty Ukraine War 00:02:17
And, you know, he's a gem.
He's a light for all of us.
So, you know, and that's what I mean.
So they silence, suppress, censor, and here we are.
You know, and people want to know what's happening, what's really happening.
And right now, there was a secret meeting on Friday with the U.S. military about F-16s going to Ukraine.
Now everyone knows if this war goes into the air, it's going to be a hot war and it's going to escalate things even more.
We need some sound minds.
And, you know, I would recommend prayer as well at this point.
I hope our leaders start to do the responsible thing.
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You know, one thing I'd like to suggest is if we ever got Iran to thinking that we ought to vote on the wars instead of letting an executive order take us to war, we ought to have a vote.
If you think you should have a war, have a vote and make sure that the vote is carried out by the people between 18 and 24.
With this right now, as Tara Reed, just in closing here, Tara, just talk more about what you were hearing and what needs to be done to hopefully convince the American ruling class to get out of this quagmire in Ukraine.
Suffering Citizens and Corruption 00:02:15
Well, you know, you brought up some good points about the ruling class, right?
You have the conservative, you know, the Republicans and you have the Democrats, but it seems like there's kind of a uniparty almost about this Ukraine war.
However, you have many conservatives that don't want this war.
In fact, Republicans and libertarians in particular have been leading the cause to, you know, lead an anti-war message.
And I think that's really powerful.
And I find that inspirational, actually.
So you heard Telsey Gabbard speak quite clearly about the deep state and how it does exist, unfortunately, and that this is benefiting a very few people, this war.
And it's, you know, the weapons manufacturers that are benefiting and with the blood on their hands and lining their pockets with money from this.
So it's, you know, it's quite something.
So Dennis Kucinich said some words, and Ron Paul, of course, and others with wisdom that they've carried through years of watching corruption and are trying to call out the message and have been censored and, you know, kind of marginalized or pushed to the side when they try to tell the truth.
So we need to figure out how we can expose the corruption.
One way would be a congressional hearing into Joe Biden.
And Margie Taylor Greene suggested that there be impeachment hearings on Joe Biden.
I would be willing to go under oath about what happened to me and testify before congressional hearings.
But I think more importantly right now is our American people as a whole, our citizens that are suffering, that they address his economic, you know, this economic corruption that's going on, which is truly evil because of the harm that it's doing and taking the whole world to a possible world war.
That's where we're headed.
Tara, thank you so much for your courage.
Appreciate it.
We'll have you on again soon.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thanks so much for listening.
Everybody, email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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