The "He Gets Us" Heresy with Allie Stuckey and Kurt Schlichter
"He Gets Us" has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on advertisements claiming Jesus was a refugee. On Sunday, they're spending $20 million on a Super Bowl ad. But is this Christian evangelism, or left-wing radicalism appropriating faith for its own ends? Allie Stuckey joins Charlie to talk about this disturbing story. Then, Michael Schlichter reacts to the tumult at Project Veritas, breaks down Biden's "MAGA-lite" SOTU message, and calls for a new election strategy from the RNC.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Jesus As A Refugee Claim00:15:04
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Over $1 billion is being spent on a Christian advertising campaign.
They're about to have a Super Bowl ad.
But what are they really advocating for?
Well, they claim that Jesus was a refugee.
They are making an equivalency that Jesus Christ is the same as someone illegally walking into your country.
Is that true?
Allie Stuckey joins us to discuss.
And then Kurt Schlichter talked about the latest Project Veritas news.
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This Sunday is the Super Bowl.
Can't wait.
I love football.
I love watching the Super Bowl.
I have not missed a Super Bowl since, boy, the first Super Bowl I remember, which was Kurt Warner, the greatest show on turf versus Tom Brady's first Super Bowl, the 2001, 2002 Super Bowl.
And a single Super Bowl advertisement will run you anywhere between six to seven million dollars.
Well, an organization that is running ads called He Gets Us is going to spend $20 million for a Super Bowl advertisement this Sunday.
$20 million.
Now, you've probably seen some of these ads.
It's the He Gets Us advertisements.
Now, look, I am all for getting people closer to Jesus.
I love it.
But is that what this is really doing?
Well, let me play one of these advertisements for you.
Then we're going to welcome Allie B. Stuckey from the wonderful Al B. Stuckey podcast.
I'm going to ask the question: is this evangelism?
Is this trying to spread the gospel?
Or is this open border woke ideology that is appropriating Christianity to try to argue for the dissolution of the American country?
Play cut 126.
They've already poured tens of millions of dollars into this ad, Play Cut 126.
There was a mother and a father who had a son.
They lived in a small village and didn't have much money.
But they were happy.
One day, they heard the head of their country was sending soldiers to their town because he thought they were part of an insurrection.
The young family decided to flee.
They grabbed only what they could carry and ran.
They hiked for days, wondering if soldiers might still be following them.
They were scared, hungry, and exhausted.
But they were far away from the atrocities taking place in Bethlehem.
That's what Mary and Joseph wanted.
A safe place to call home.
Okay, so for those of you on radio and podcasting, it said on the screen, Jesus was a refugee.
No, he was not.
That is a lie.
It is a heretical lie.
Jesus and his family when he was a child fled from a part of the Roman Empire to another part of the Roman Empire in Egypt to a safe Jewish community.
He was not a refugee.
That is a lie.
It's nowhere in the Bible.
It is made up.
It is editorialized.
Secondly, there was a Spanish version of that advertisement that was not called the refugee ad.
It was called the immigration ad.
What you just saw was emotional manipulation.
They're trying to make it seem as if we should allow more foreigners and border jumpers and criminals into our country because Jesus was also a border jumper and a criminal.
What's going on here?
Allie Stuckey is with us, host of Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey from the Blaze Podcast Network.
Allie, I've thought about this.
I've prayed about this.
I was have not spoken out about this intentionally for weeks, and you actually helped inspire me to do so.
How should we think about this advertising campaign?
Look, I feel the same way as you.
And as a bunch of Christians, when you see something like the display at the Grammys and you just see the open Satan worship there, it can be really refreshing to see something in the mainstream that seems to be reflecting Jesus, the opposite values of what we saw at the Grammys.
However, I am equally uncomfortable with this, equally as you are, because it is the projection of modern political and cultural narratives onto the narrative and the gospel story of Jesus.
And so what it does, rather than attracting people to Jesus, it actually distracts people from the gospel.
Because you already mentioned Jesus wasn't a refugee, but even beyond that, that is peripheral to the story of Jesus.
So rather than spending all of this money, maybe sharing the gospel of salvation of who Jesus really is, instead, they are watering down who Jesus is.
They are giving you a false Jesus.
So while I want to be excited about any campaign that is promoting Jesus to the masses, yes and amen, I cannot celebrate promoting a Jesus that isn't even real and is not going to draw people into the truth of what the gospel is.
I totally agree.
And you go to their website, it is, first of all, I know this sounds a little silly, but their color scheme is the BLM color scheme, right?
It's black and yellow.
For me, that's a turnoff.
I know you shouldn't judge anything by that, but it's awfully similar to the BLM logo and to the color scheme.
But let's pretend that's not a relevant critique, but that's how I first view it.
All throughout the website, Allie, it is very left-wing social justice messaging that is laced within this, right?
Which is how did Jesus deal with injustice, institutional injustice?
It's talking about how Jesus was fed up with politics too.
And it says that they have an agenda.
This is what they say their agenda is at hegetsus.com.
They're about to spend $20 million on a superbland.
This is really important.
They say this.
How did the story of a man who taught and practiced unconditional love become associated with hatred and oppression of so many people?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa.
You mean people lie about the king of the world?
You know what I don't see on here, Allie?
I don't see them saying that he's the savior of the world.
Yeah.
And this is just a narrative that the world repeats a lot that it's, you'll hear people who are not Christians say, oh, it's not Jesus that I have a problem with.
It's Jesus' followers.
And so basically, this apparently Christian campaign is just kind of reaffirming the negative stereotypes or the negative perspectives that a lot of people who are not Christians think about Christians.
That's not to say that people haven't done horrible things in the name of Jesus, but it's kind of saying, okay, worldly people actually have better access and a better understanding to who Jesus is than all of these Christians that have been giving Jesus a bad reputation.
And so you're also, in a sense, almost maligning the church and the history of what Christianity has been, not just for Western civilization, but also for the world.
And again, I think that is counterproductive.
At the end of this ad, someone who doesn't know Jesus is going to say, wow, great.
Jesus is who I thought that he was.
He's just a relatable guy, maybe a good teacher, maybe kind of, I don't know, an activist or a symbol of the oppressed, but certainly not a savior.
Yeah, he's kind of like a Marxist counterrevolutionary.
Cut 125, another advertisement.
They call this one the influencer.
There was an influencer who became insanely popular.
Everybody started following him.
Then one day, he stood up for something he believed in.
People got angry.
The establishment called him an extremist, said he shouldn't be allowed to share his views.
They would stop at nothing to shut him up.
So they did what they had to do.
They nailed him to a cross.
Jesus was an influencer, Ellie.
Yeah, he wasn't.
Well, I don't even have to tell you, but Jesus also wasn't an activist.
This, again, is something that we hear from the left a lot, that he was an activist.
He was a socialist, things like that.
All of these different names that people give Jesus so they don't have to face the uncomfortable fact that Jesus actually died for our sins, because then you have to face the uncomfortable fact that you are a sinner in need of a savior.
And to me, this kind of placates the masses of people who do not want to face that reality.
There's so much good news in Jesus, but first we have to be met with the bad news that we actually need a savior.
And to me, this campaign spends millions of dollars, so much time, so much production, creativity, and energy to not share the gospel, but to simply affirm a humanistic version of Jesus that is not the real Jesus.
This is the largest ad spend in my life on anything around the gospel.
And instead of seizing the opportunity of sharing the word of God and allowing it to go to work in people's hearts, instead of having uncompromising truth, we have a PR crafted, poll-tested, wokey firm.
And, you know, we just got an email here.
They say, how on earth did these donors, why on earth are these donors giving this money to this garbage?
And we'll talk about this after the break.
I've not heard a single positive thing from anybody about this campaign.
Not a single Christian is moved by it, proud of it, or happy that it's happening.
So I got to wonder what exactly is the goal here?
Over $1 billion is being spent on these advertisements.
Let's listen to another.
This one's called The Rebel, Play Cut 122.
A rebel took to the streets.
He recruited others to join him.
They roamed the hood and challenged authority.
Community leaders feared them.
Religious leaders abhorred them.
We have to get them off the streets, they said.
But they weren't part of a gang spreading hate and terror.
They were spreading love.
Oh, my.
If you didn't know any better, you'd think that'd be a BLM advertisement.
So, Allie, their counter-argument is: look, we're bringing all these people to Jesus.
This is a great thing.
In fact, let me read their statement, Allie.
I'd love your reaction to this.
The official press release, they say this.
They say, we have, we've done this.
Quote, we've gone to great lengths to make sure this is not politicized.
There's no agenda here other than we just want people to see what Jesus modeled.
We believe and would be a better society if we all learn from that.
I wonder if they have any advertisements saying that Jesus wouldn't support homosexuality or that he was pro-life.
But no, that would be too controversial.
But the fact that Jesus was for open borders, yeah, it's fair game.
Your thoughts, Allie.
Yeah, that's interesting.
He doesn't say anything about Jesus caring about the most vulnerable babies inside the womb.
It's always the people who say we're not trying to be political who tend to actually lean to the left.
That's just an interesting thing to note.
But one thing that I will say to their counterargument is that they're bringing people to Jesus because they do have this, they have technology on their website that basically, if people go to their website, they're interested in this campaign, they will link them to a local church.
But as far as I see, there are no doctrinal standards whatsoever for the churches that are included in this like connection technology.
And so I have no idea what kind of churches a non-believer may be connected to.
It could be a church that does believe that there is really no sin and that Jesus was just an activist and that Jesus is not the way, the truth, and the life.
And so I'm not really taken by that argument that they are leading people to Christ.
Honestly, I just don't see a whole lot of evidence for that yet.
Yeah, in fact, I see evidence that they're going to what they call seeker-sensitive churches.
I'm being told that's who they are.
They are being connected with.
So, yeah, Andy Stanley will see a nice increase in his attendance telling people the Old Testament doesn't matter.
I'm sure he'll see a big increase there.
So, Allie, let's just kind of close the argument out and make sure that our opinion is clear.
We obviously support the effort and the intention to try to bring people closer to Jesus.
This effort has now obviously been derailed and is tangential, basically a pseudo-BLM open border campaign.
They insist that's not the case, but it certainly seems that way.
They're going to run an ad on Sunday, at least from what I've been told from within.
They say the ad will be about children and loving your enemies.
We'll see.
So, there's always an opportunity, maybe that we'll be surprised, and the advertisement is terrific and wonderful.
But the website is obviously laced with woke ideology.
Allie, these ads aren't going away anytime soon.
So, how should Christians talk about this and think about this?
Look, Jesus did love his enemies.
Jesus maybe was some of the things that even these campaigns are saying, but again, these are peripheral to who Jesus actually was.
Jesus is God, that's what makes him different.
Yes, he was fully God and fully man.
And one wonderful thing about him is that he can empathize with our weaknesses.
Scripture says that he was tempted in every way, but he was without sin.
So, my concern with this is that we never actually see the distinction of who Jesus is.
Jesus is important not because he gets you, not because he's relatable, not because he did some of the same things that you did or had some of the same feelings you did, but because he is God and he died for your sin so that you could be reconciled to God because you are a sinner bound for hell without his cleansing and without his reconciliation.
Like, if we are going to have all of these rich Christians, all of these billion-dollar organizations pour millions and millions of dollars into sharing a message about Jesus to the masses at the Super Bowl, let's get it right.
This campaign does not get it right, and my fear is that it will do more harm than good.
They say we look at the biography of Jesus through a modern lens to find new relevance and often overlooked moments and things from his life.
That is a really bad idea.
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Yeah, Allie, thank you so much.
God bless you, and we'll see what ends up being aired on Sunday.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Open to different ideas.
Email me freedom at charliekirk.com.
And in fact, I know one of the funders behind it, they're really sweet people.
They're wonderful.
They're super generous.
The Green family from Hobby Lobby.
And I just think they're being taken by a PR firm and a marketing firm that has swindled them, quite honestly, and has lied to them and has deceived them.
And it's really too bad because Hobby Lobby and the Green family, they've been phenomenal.
They've been generous.
They've been fighters in the courts.
And it's a lot of money.
It's $20 million for a 60-second ad on Sunday.
Hundreds of millions of dollars are deployed to be scheduled.
They want to get to a billion dollars.
So they're currently 300 million to get to a billion, the largest advertising campaign in modern Christian history.
And it's too bad that it advocates the opening of our borders.
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Joining us now is Kurt Schlichter.
Kurt, welcome back to the program.
Happy Friday, Shabbat Shalom.
I'm currently getting some messages about the ongoing Project Veritas board meetings.
It's happening right now.
There's some breaking news that some big donors from Project Veritas are threatening the board with legal action.
One of the contentions against James O'Keefe is that they're really upset that James O'Keefe brought staff to go in a performance of Oklahoma.
If you ask me, James O'Keefe could have brought his whole staff to go alongside of him in Fan of the Opera.
I couldn't really care less.
That's not something to air publicly.
Kurt, how should we think about this?
And what is your take?
Well, first of all, I am a lawyer, but I'm not James O'Keefe's lawyer.
I'm not the board's lawyer.
This is one conservative fight that I'm not involved in.
Thank goodness.
Because James O'Keefe and Project Veritas have done a lot of great work.
I remember when I was working with Andrew Breitbart, gosh, over a decade ago, and James O'Keefe burst onto the scene and just did really and has continued to do some really great work.
So, I, you know, when I'm litigating things involving conservative entities, which I do, I like to try and take it offline where I can.
I'll fight in court where I have to.
That's okay.
I represent my clients who are usually conservatives.
And so, I just want to get that out there.
What we're looking at is: I'm hearing a lot of gossip.
I'm hearing a lot of rumors and allegations.
I haven't seen anything clearly.
I don't know what to believe.
I don't know who to believe.
But you have to understand, look at it this way.
Project Veritas is not James O'Keefe.
It is a separate entity.
It has a board of directors.
James O'Keefe is the founder, but apparently he is not the sole owner.
There's a board of directors.
Board of directors have a fiduciary duty.
That means they are legally bound to put the interests of the company ahead of everything else.
That is making sure it's obeying the law, making sure it's staying financially solvent.
And, you know, there's some structural issues too.
Is this a 501c3, 501c4?
There are various kinds of nonprofits, charities, et cetera.
And that gets very complicated.
So the board has some legal obligations to make sure things are going according to regular accounting principles, sound business practice, avoiding fraud.
And I'm not saying James O'Keefe has done any of those things.
I'm just telling you what the board's obligation in general is.
I'm not sure what to make of this.
I would have, like you, I'm a big believer in you get in a room, you close the door, and you work things out when you can.
I'm not afraid to fight, but fighting causes collateral damage.
Sometimes you've got to.
Many times you don't have to.
So I'm kind of curious to see what's actually going on here.
Yeah.
And can you just comment on a second, though, Kurt, for a second?
Let's take a step back and appreciate how we can't lose James O'Keefe.
However, this thing ends up.
And if it ends up being nothing more than kind of a personal love of the opera and taking your staff alongside of you and maybe being mean to staff, and I'm not, maybe there's more and I don't know if I've asked, I'm not getting any answers, right?
Or being cruel or calling people names.
I think all of that can be remedied.
The reason why I'm focused and interested on the story, and you and I were texting about it, I'm not going to share what we texted about it, but like the more broad essence of what I was saying is we can't lose him, right?
That I think that absent something that is, you know, so out of bounds.
And again, let's just be honest.
We're in a very interesting era of politics where we have a high threshold of what we're actually tolerating.
We have a guy named George Santos.
I don't even know if that's his name.
I don't think, I don't know if he's he has, I don't know if he has said anything.
You don't even know if he's he.
I'm not even sure what his gender is.
No, and but what's so weird about the Santos thing as a as a tangent, he lies about things you should, you don't have to lie about, right?
That are completely irrelevant.
He's like, yeah, you know, I've been to that restaurant.
Yeah, it doesn't exist, right?
It's like, why do you even have to admit, it's just pathological.
But, you know, the threshold of what we're putting up with is probably too high.
I don't know.
The point is that if really James O'Keefe is going to get run out because he was a little mean and took a sandwich from somebody and wanted to go see cats, I don't think that's a good bar.
Can you at least comment, Kurt, on how we need James O'Keefe?
That is a fact.
Look, I think James O'Keefe has performed incredible services for the movement and for the country.
He's exposed people who the regime media wanted to keep hidden.
He's done great services.
Now, look, there are red lines, and I'm not saying anybody's crossed.
No, no, no, I totally agree.
I totally agree.
No, no, I'm just saying, though, that if the threshold is...
Yes, yes, yes.
Try and imagine Project Veritas without James O'Keefe.
It's hard to do.
So, you know, if somebody is doing this lightly without really good justification, that is an incredible disservice to conservatism.
If they feel they have to because of their fiduciary duty, you know, it's very concerning.
And I hope it gets worked out.
And I hope there are no red lines crossed.
And we know what the red lines are.
Yes.
fooling around with money and all that sort of thing.
I don't know if those are the issues.
It's like the old Supreme Court decision where they were asked to define pornography and they said, we know it when we see it, right?
I mean, it's, it's, and unfortunately, that's actually no longer the case because anyway, that's a separate issue.
All right.
I want to, I want to switch, switch, switch topics here, Kurt, for a second.
So we had the State of the Union this week.
I tweeted out that Biden's superpower is because he slurs his speech and because you can't really understand him, is that it actually makes people more inherently sympathetic for the old elderly man that's randomly meandering than actually hate him.
I have some very strong feelings about Biden.
So does our audience.
But polling shows us that people might not like him, but they're not animated to hatred against him.
What are your thoughts on this?
Well, look, I'm going to say something that's rather unpopular, and I've gotten some pushback on it.
I think the first 25 minutes of his speech was the best thing I've seen Biden ever do.
I thought he delivered it well despite his age.
Now, after that, after the social security thing where he conceded Republicans, we're going to take your social security, which I hope is in every ad we see in the Toy Toy 4 cycle.
He went off on his weird tangents and verbal ticks and stuff.
I thought the first 25 minutes where he was doing old school New Deal working man Democrat stuff was incredibly powerful because as you know, Charlie, the Republicans left those guys.
The Democrats abandoned them and Trump came along and picked them up.
And this was a powerful play to get them back, talking about kitchen table economic stuff.
I thought he delivered it well.
I was not happy, but I'm a soldier.
I assess my opponent ruthlessly and objectively because I want to see his strengths.
And he was very strong during that.
And I thought he was very likable.
Then he kind of had to go through the woke stuff and everything.
And I think he lost it.
There's a good question about how long he can keep up working man Joe without turning into, oh, yeah, and you need to pay reparations.
You know, got to defund the police.
But when he was doing it, I thought he was very good.
And I thought it was very sympathetic.
And I thought that, I mean, look, you're a little young to remember when this was the essence of the Democratic Party.
But Joe is really old.
And it is part of his being to do that.
And I thought it was very powerful.
In some ways, he was appropriating MAGA messaging, which I found to be very interesting, is that there was an effort to try to take the populist nationalist, launder it through kind of left-wing social liberalism, but then regurgitate it in a way that could be digestible to certain white voters.
Well, yeah, remember, MAGA includes a bunch of people who are not Republicans.
You know, the so-called Reagan Democrats.
You got a guy who's a hard hat and he wants to get a fair break from the corporations, but he also stormed ashore at Tarola.
Okay.
These guys love their country.
They love their family.
They're not woke.
They're not perverts.
But They look at a guy like look at the Republican Party and see a guy like Mitt Romney who looks like he's about to outsource your job to set on.
And who was talking to him?
Donald Trump talked to him.
So Donald Trump went after the guys the Democrats left behind.
Ronald Reagan, to some extent, grabbed them.
He grabbed them mostly on cultural issues, not economics.
Trump's innovation was to talk about economics, too.
And I think it's very important that the Republican Party now cannot be counted on by big corporations to carry their water blindly.
I think that's very important.
I think that's exactly right.
Look, the guy that wears the hard hat in Hubbard, Ohio, he's not moved by marginal corporate tax rates.
That is not a point of enthusiasm for that voter.
And he might be a registered Democrat.
Yeah, he's not going to re-register just because why would I?
Because you cheer for the Buckeyes and you're a Democrat if you live in Mahonic County, right?
And so you just, it just doesn't change.
However, Donald Trump got them very excited.
One minute, 30 seconds remaining, Kurt.
Your thoughts.
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Your thoughts.
Oh, I think there's a lot of truth to that.
Right now, election, look, you can either have a mechanical election where you're trying to generate ballots, or you can have an influence election where you're trying to influence people to vote for your side.
I think we're past the influence part, Charlie.
I think people have picked a side.
I think now it's about generating the actual votes, putting actual ballots in the ballot box.
And I think we need to do that in a more systematic way than we have done it.
And we have to support that effort with a legal initiative designed to fight back and push back against laws and decrees and regulations and decisions that limit the ability to ensure that the election is honest and that there's integrity.
So it's kind of a two-pronged attack.
But look, that's the machine we need to build.
Rona McDaniel won her election.
So I'm going to support her now, but she's got to do that.
She's got to do that.
You're a better person than I am.
So, but, Kurt, let me ask you, this is a provocative question, but do you think in the current imbalance of machinery, somebody like John Fetterman could be elected as president of the United States?
I use that example provocatively to show the candidate quality argument actually is less important than the actual plumbing, the infrastructure of elections.
Well, someone like Fetterman was elected.
I mean, that's Joe Biden's exactly right.
No, look, it's not an influence-elect because if we're trying to influence people, if we're trying to convince them, they're not going to vote for a Fetterman.
I mean, he was a mess.
And the fact that he's sitting in a hospital now only reinforces it.
And of course, we all hope he recovers.
But, you know, this is about generating ballots, honestly and fairly, but making sure that people exercise their rights.
And there are a lot of people out there who think there's something more important than casting their vote.
And unfortunately, the political world is not going to forget about them or overlook them.
And if you want to influence your country, and this is our country, then you've got to vote.
And a political party should be devoted to making sure that it generates the votes of voters who support it.
And that's what we need to do.
I totally agree.
Kurt, thank you so much for joining us.
Really appreciate it as always.
Thanks for having me.
Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
We're monitoring so many different things at the same time.
There's a new ridiculously fallacious kind of piece against Ana Paulina out.
There's this silly piece.
I'll use the word silly piece, NBC News, about my relationship with Trump.
And for those of you guys that follow the program closely, as you know, I'm supporting Donald Trump in 2024.
I've made that abundantly clear repeatedly, but NBC News is trying to say that, oh, there's divisions and all these different things.
And is, you know, where is Charlie on this position?
I'm behind Trump, period.
I had an interview with Ron DeSantis.
I love Ron DeSantis and a wonderful job.
And worked behind Trump in 2024.
And it's very clear the media, they're in full deployment mode right now.
I'm living through it.
New York Times yesterday trying to circle the wagons for censorship.
The whole Project Veritas thing, very suspicious, how the New York magazine was able to get that.
The NBC piece, Washington Post right now with a big piece on Ana Paulina.
This is all kind of happening simultaneously.
And also, just to kind of get your spidey senses up for all of you that look at this, if your favorite conservatives are not kind of being attacked in this season right now, then maybe they're not as conservative as you think they are.
Because right now, the media is trying to go after the people in the populist nationalist, conservative, people-centered parents' party movement from Veritas to James O'Keefe to Ana Paulina to this program that are actually moving the dial substantially and significantly.
And we're living through that right now.
And so we're going to keep our eyes on all these different dynamics.
Ana Paulina is going to be just fine.
She's terrific, and they're trying to go after her with everything they possibly can.
Whole Washington Post feature story trying to make her seem as if she is something that she's not.
Of course, they would never do such an investigative story against Eric Swawell for sleeping with a Chinese spy by the name of Fang Fang.
I would love to see the Washington Post do an investigative story into Eric Swawell.
Yeah, that won't happen anytime soon.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thank you so much for listening.
God bless.
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