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Mere Simulocrity and Elections
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| Hey, everybody, an entire hour with the brilliant Michael O'Fallon from Sovereign Nations. | |
| We talk about the World Economic Forum, Hermeticism, Gnosticism, Christianity, the social contract. | |
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| Michael O'Fallon is here from Sovereign Nations. | |
| You had a fabulous event last week that I was able to stop by at. | |
| Right, right. | |
| And what was the name of the event? | |
| Was Mere Simulocrity. | |
| What does that mean? | |
| Well, it's kind of a playoff of the Lewis title from C.S. Lewis of Mere Christianity, of understanding that what's really happening today, especially within the Christian faith, but everywhere you can talk about the simulation of elections, right? | |
| Which is what they're doing in the badly lagging Zoom call. | |
| Simultaneously, right now. | |
| Correct. | |
| That's right. | |
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Social Alchemy and New Order
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| In other words, that you have something that is not just a question of it being fake, it's a question of it actually being hyper-reality. | |
| So, in other words, it's more real than real. | |
| And so, when you're talking about where someone wants to take things in regards to what their end goals are, you know, when you talk about problem-reaction-solution, solution is always the end, but it's always the thing that they start with. | |
| So, you begin with the end of where you want to arrive at, and then you re-engineer things backwards. | |
| Give us an example of that process. | |
| Sure. | |
| Well, think of problem-reaction-solution. | |
| For instance, within the church in a church context or within all of society, you have the problem of critical race theory, radical subjectivity, intersectionality that comes in through everything, education, faith. | |
| It comes in through the major sports, it comes into the media, and then you have the reaction or the neore action that comes back strong, but yet it's using the same principles, if you will, from a Hedarian standpoint of what the woke was actually using. | |
| So, once again, now we're the victims. | |
| Now, we're going to play the same game that you played back to you. | |
| So, both ends are played against the middle. | |
| And the end solution, of course, is a reordering of society itself. | |
| Yeah, so let's talk about that. | |
| I think that's fascinating. | |
| The Klaus Schwab types, the World Economic Forum types. | |
| I get the question a lot from people: what do they want? | |
| You say reordering of society. | |
| What do you mean by that? | |
| A complete new social contract. | |
| In other words, where you're trying to move towards when you hear phrases like the new world order or the new liberal world order. | |
| And it's the misuse of the word liberal in a sense, because really what it is, it's progressive. | |
| And that is progressing to a point of singularity. | |
| When we talk about singularity, you're talking about things such as the concept that H.G. Wells would have spoken about in 1923 in his work, The Global Brain, is that if we can be of one mind collectively, as opposed to being fractured all over the place, and be of one singular mind of us all that we think the same things, we have the same opinions on things and so forth, that there won't be war. | |
| There won't be this selfishness and so forth. | |
| So, one of the ways that you actually get through to that is by encouraging us all. | |
| First, you have to break it into a thousand pieces, fracture everything everywhere, all the identities, genders, it doesn't matter, just into a million pieces. | |
| Blur the distinctions. | |
| Blur the distinctions. | |
| And then what you do is you take everything and you put it into a smelting pot, basically, and you melt it all together. | |
| So, tell us what did H.G. Wells talk about the global brain. | |
| That's really interesting. | |
| Well, Wells would talk about a few things, and this is kind of in his stage where he started phasing out of fiction and really into more futurist thought. | |
| And so, he would write the book in, I think it was 1922 or 23, just after actually the first one to use this title was a Baptist pastor by the name of Samuel Zane Batten, who was from the same school of thought of Walter Rauschenbush, extremely progressive Christianity. | |
| And the title was The New World Order. | |
| So, he writes The New World Order as well. | |
| He also wrote War of the Worlds and Invisible Man. | |
| Yes, that's what he's best known for. | |
| That's the fiction side of things as he starts transitioning into this futurist thought. | |
| And remember that he's the one that wrote basically the foundational documents for the United Nations as well. | |
| H.G. Wells. | |
| So, all of this was happening simultaneously. | |
| He was in the height of his career when Woodrow Wilson became president. | |
| And so, this would have been after the League of Nations then. | |
| This would have been more 1920s, 1930s, if I'm not mistaken, right? | |
| Which is really when he was most published and respected. | |
| So, you say it's a new social contract that they want. | |
| So, the three traditional frameworks for social contracts in the West would either be Hobbesian, Rousseauian, or Lockean, right? | |
| Within a certain analysis of human nature. | |
| Hobbesian being one that I'm most sympathetic with, that human nature is nasty, brutish, and short to one another. | |
| Rousseauian, obviously, valuing the primitive over the civilized, or the infant over the adult, or the romantic lover over the romantic, yes, yeah, over the loyal spouse, or the Lockean, which would be more tabula rasa, like the blank slate, but natural rights. | |
| Are you trying to say they have either theorized or trying to resurrect a fourth social contract? | |
| Well, no, I would say that it's still Rousseauian nature. | |
| So, you know, with Rousseau, you have this concept that somehow the enlightenment and modernity is the thing that has corrupted all things. | |
| So, there's a return to, and when you talk about Schwab, it's that same concept of returning to somehow somehow more of a primitive cultural, you know, an ethnic, you would call it folkish, if you will. | |
| That's what Herder and Hegel would refer to it as well. | |
| Is we need to kind of have a, once again, a society that is based upon a religious nature. | |
| So, it isn't secularism that we're heading to. | |
| That's not where all of this goes. | |
| This is all very religious in nature. | |
| It's like, but who's theology, right? | |
| Or who's God or who's religion? | |
| Well, it's basically, if you really want to get down to it, it's a kind of a formulation or a dialectical formulation of Hermeticism and Gnosticism. | |
| You know, Gnosticism basically looking at the physical as evil. | |
| Yeah, tell us what Gnosticism is. | |
| Well, Gnosticism basically proposes that the physical world, that's what you see, can touch, and so forth, is evil, and the spiritual is the good. | |
| Now, for many years, and of course, back when you look at how Gnosticism influenced Christianity and failed mainly because of Irenaeus and his against heresies and how he really took apart Valentinian Gnosticism. | |
| But when you look at Gnosticism, it didn't have that spiritual realm that it could create and so forth. | |
| It was only in your mind, right? | |
| Well, now we have that spiritual mind in the digital. | |
| Okay, continue. | |
| So, in the digital, you have another world that you can actually create where you can make the world the way that you want it. | |
| You can avatar yourself. | |
| You can LARP all day long. | |
| You can live in this digital world and never actually be able to interact within the physical realm, physical friends, having relationships with people, having to get along with folks. | |
| And so, what happens is that you have people that begin to then be a part of different affinity groups or tribes within the digital space itself. | |
| And so, in the physical nature of what's happening around us, all of this becomes chaos. | |
| That's so interesting. | |
| So, Gnosticism has some Eastern roots, obviously, for lack of a better term, very Buddhist or Taoist, where the material is temporary and fades away, and it really is the internal soul that matters more than whatever is happening around you. | |
| You extrapolate that, though, to the World Economic Forum. | |
| I think people are going to struggle to say, I don't understand how Klaus Schwab could possibly be a Gnostic. | |
| Like, that's where people think we're going to have to explore that a little bit more. | |
| You're going to have to make that make sense for me to be okay. | |
| Sure. | |
| So, with this kind of secret knowledge, if you will, that only those that are the illuminated ones can actually understand. | |
| So, it's like there's a second higher level of understanding things. | |
| And this is where the hermetic part as well. | |
| What does hermetic mean? | |
| Hermeticism is an ancient religion, once again, where you're talking about the process of alchemy. | |
| So, changing things to gold? | |
| Well, the alchemy doesn't have to be gold. | |
| Okay, sure. | |
| So, like, you would have like George Soros that would have the alchemy of finance. | |
| He wrote that in 1992. | |
| And what he says is changing of state, basically. | |
| Well, of anything. | |
| So, what he says is that the scientific method is after objective facts. | |
| He says, but alchemy is after operational success. | |
| So, their use of alchemy in a social sense is to make things the way that we want them to be, even though it's false and it's not provable. | |
| But we're going to simply tell you that this is the way that things should be for everyone's common good. | |
| So, it's social alchemy that's being used. | |
| Let's say, like an election. | |
| Like, you decide ahead of time what the operational success looks like. | |
| Katie Hobbes, you know, becoming problem-reaction solution. | |
| So, you know the solution you want to get to. | |
| And so, what you do is you create the situation around it that is not objectively observable. | |
| Let's say like actual votes that are somehow attached to actual legal citizens. | |
| So, instead, you start counting ballots. | |
| Yeah, and you change the game completely. | |
| Correct. | |
| Sovereign Nations, Michael O'Fallon, this is so important because I at times will say, Oh, Schwab is an atheist, which might be technically true metaphysically, but there is a theology, a Gnostic theology that is driving the most evil people on the planet. | |
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Relief Factor for Pain Relief
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| So a new social contract they want to usher in. | |
| It's interesting that you say, so they, let's say they be Klaus Schwab. | |
| Is that a fair they that we could play with right now? | |
| Well, I think Professor Schwab. | |
| Schwabism. | |
| Yeah, Schwab represents many of the ideas, many of the goals that so many have right now. | |
| And of course, this has been built up around him. | |
| So that's why you had the young global leaders and so forth that would come to Geneva, that would come to Davos and so forth and be indoctrinated with, here is what the future is going to look like. | |
| You can be that bridge to help us to get to that future. | |
| And so we all need to be dedicated to the same thing. | |
| Now, it wasn't just Democrats that were there. | |
| And there were plenty of Republicans that we currently have serving that were there. | |
| We have mayors that are Republican mayors that we all look at and go, oh, great. | |
| He's the mayor of, well, I don't want to say the city, but those folks are actually part of this entire transition as well. | |
| So you have a transition happening both from the left and the right. | |
| So where you would say, you know, what we need, let's say if you're in the UK, you know, what we need is we need to make sure that we have a Tory in office. | |
| So you end up having a Tory in office like Boris Johnson, who basically goes so much further left than anyone that has ever been labor in the previous history of the UK. | |
| And so all of a sudden you start to move that Overton window within the party itself to where conservatism is not conservatism anymore. | |
| So what is it you're actually conserving? | |
| Yeah, and that's important to re-emphasize. | |
| So to emphasize, we'll talk more about that in the hour. | |
| I find it curious because a lot of people, they say all that the World Economic Forum wants is control and power and money. | |
| What you are arguing is that there is an intellectual and philosophical endpoint here. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Because what you're looking at, again, first of all, is there is a public-private partnership. | |
| So the World Economic Forum, in many ways, represents that private portion of that whole deal. | |
| So when you take a look at all the different corporations that are partnering with the World Economic Forum, you know, all the major corporations that you can think of for the most part, there's a few that aren't, that have been a part of this thing. | |
| Major car manufacturers, BlackRock, Vanguard, Disney, and so forth, are all part of the World Economic Forum. | |
| So that's the private part. | |
| The public part would be the governance of the world, which there is a public-private partnership between the United Nations and the World Economic Forum. | |
| So you have that marrying together public-private, which is what? | |
| Corporate? | |
| Fascism. | |
| It's fascism. | |
| So there is, though, then a third leg of the stool because a two-legged stool cannot stand on its own. | |
| It'll fall over. | |
| So the third leg of the school, the stool, would be faith. | |
| Now, we're not just talking about the Christian faith. | |
| We're talking about all faiths. | |
| So what you want to do is try to make basically an ecumenical pathway for those faiths to have agreement on certain things as you continue this process of the dialectic within all of global faith together. | |
| So whether you're Roman Catholic, whether you're evangelical Protestant, whether you're a Buddhist, whether you're Shinto, whether you're Baha'i faith or whatever, you're all moving with the same concerns of how we can help to, let's say, forge a path forward and take care of systemic global challenges. | |
| Here's a clip of Rick Warren, who is the former pastor at Saddleback Church. | |
| Full disclosure, I texted with Rick Warren about this a couple weeks ago. | |
| I don't think I told you about this, Michael. | |
| No, you didn't. | |
| And he objected to the categorization that I gave that he was hanging around the people of Davos. | |
| I'll let you guys decide for yourself, but I thought he was very sweet in the discourse. | |
| And then he had to go to the hospital after that. | |
| So I hope everything ended up okay. | |
| He's also the author of A Purpose-Driven Life. | |
| I think that what he says here, you be the judge. | |
| Play Cut 52. | |
| The church was global 200 years before Davos ever talked about globalization. | |
| I could take you to 10 million villages around the world. | |
| The only thing in it is the church. | |
| And we are in more locations in the United Nations. | |
| We speak more languages than the United Nations. | |
| We're in a thousand more people groups in the United Nations. | |
| So we have to mobilize these faith groups to take work together on these issues that have been unsolvable. | |
| And the church has, of course, the greatest distribution. | |
| They also have the biggest manpower with big 2.3 billion people. | |
| They have local credibility. | |
| At the local level, people trust that priest or that pastor or for that matter, an imam or a rabbi. | |
| When the crisis comes, NGOs come and go. | |
| Nations come and go. | |
| But, for instance, the church has a 2,000-year track record. | |
| That's Rick Warren. | |
| Give us some context on that. | |
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Strong Cell Energy Boost
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| Well, basically, you have someone who's almost representing a corporation or a family of corporations that say, look, we're actually the best distribution model. | |
| We speak more languages. | |
| We have more people. | |
| We have the trust of the people. | |
| We have our churches, we have our synagogues, we have our temples everywhere around the world. | |
| And we're the ones that really need to be a part of making sure that whatever the ideas are that are coming from Davos are then, of course, sprinkled throughout the world. | |
| And it's almost like franchising. | |
| Yeah, the church will be a happy partner for your distribution. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Is that a fair summary of what he was saying there? | |
| That's a fair summary. | |
| And actually, he consistently says that in many other ways. | |
| Unfortunately, too many churches are helping the World Economic Forum get their agenda implemented. | |
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NAD Belief and Faith
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| I want to play a piece of tape here of the World Economic Forum talking about faith and modernity coexisting. | |
| This is something Michael O'Fallon, who's with us from Sovereign Nations, has been focused on. | |
| Unfortunately, it's people of faith and pastors that are some of the biggest cheerleaders for the World Economic Forum, Play Cut 54. | |
| And so we continue after thousands of years to struggle over how to achieve a better world. | |
| I believe that for faith and modernity to coexist and to draw out the best in each other, one, societies need to defend freedom of faith. | |
| Not for some, not hierarchically, but for all and equally. | |
| And in this respect, I must say, while the United States may be an imperfect society, a permanent work in progress, I think that the fact that religion flourishes as it does in the United States is in no small measure due to this protection of freedom of faith and the avoidance of hierarchy in the construction of the relationship between religion and society. | |
| But secondly, in order for faith and modernity to coexist, I believe, one also needs freedom from faith. | |
| So he started off pretty benign, and then he got rather malignant towards the end. | |
| What was that all about? | |
| Who is this guy? | |
| Well, this is again, and I can't remember his name actually off the top of my head, but the idea is that you want to keep them separated, you know, more or less like in Singapore. | |
| And the Singaporean model that you have is that, yes, you have the right to your faith, but you're not allowed to proselytize. | |
| So what you want to do is you want to make sure that those faiths stay in their camps, in their tribes, but they don't actually venture outside of those tribes and begin to affect others. | |
| Unless they could be used for the WEF agenda. | |
| Correct. | |
| So there has to be some sort of agreement within all the tribal factions of faith and so forth that we actually have a common good that we're moving towards. | |
| So then this is Cut 55. | |
| If you take out people of faith out of the equation, you've ruled out five-sixths of the world. | |
| Play cut 55. | |
| If you take people of faith out of the equation, you've ruled out five-sixths of the world. | |
| And if we only leave it up to secular people to solve these major problems, it isn't going to happen. | |
| When we talk about partnerships at Davos, we basically talk about public and private, or public being government and non-government organizations and private being the for-profit organizations. | |
| A one-legged stool will fall over. | |
| There you go. | |
| And a two-legged stool will fall over. | |
| You have to have three legs. | |
| And the third leg of the stool are the people representing faiths on this stage and others. | |
| So that's Rick Warren speaking at the World Economic Forum. | |
| We got an email from one of our listeners. | |
| Charlie, I don't know. | |
| I like Rick Warren. | |
| I appreciate him speaking into this community. | |
| Why is that listener misguided in that? | |
| Well, it's not that he's speaking into the community in terms of, hey, let me help to bring the love of Jesus and the grace of Jesus Christ and the gospel into the World Economic Forum. | |
| What he's doing with the World Economic Forum, he's saying, hey, look, we have a great distribution model. | |
| This is how you can use this because you only have two legs. | |
| We can be that third leg to help solve this. | |
| And what that's actually called is integralism. | |
| So integalismo is where a lot of these concepts were created. | |
| Then through Dom Helder Camara, who was from Recife, Brazil, who basically became Klaus Schwab's mentor. | |
| And he spoke, I believe, at the third gathering of the World Economic Forum under Great Duress and so forth. | |
| But to try to create this pace, this path, where both faith, the corporate world, and as well the world of governance can understand that there needs to be some sort of relationship there, that you can have the faithful side to where you have that in terms of an authority that never ends. | |
| It's not like someone's going to get voted in and out of office that's in faith. | |
| They can remain there for years or until they die in some cases. | |
| So where you might have changes of CEOs or of governance where presidents or prime ministers come in and out, the faith will remain the same, but you now have to have a faith that is in agreement with the new global agenda and order. | |
| So Rick Warren's defense is that I'll go speak to any people at any time. | |
| What you're saying, though, is that he was actually offering help, assistance, and a model for the World Economic Forum. | |
| Yes, and that's what they've done. | |
| And there was another paper that was written in 2016, a white paper delivered at Davos. | |
| I believe it's called the Role of Faith in Global Systemic Challenges. | |
| And that was done, of course, Rick would have been a part of these things and so forth, but it was done through Lippo Group. | |
| Lipo Group was one of the main ones that helped to bring it together. | |
| Lipo Group is a company that was in Asia. | |
| It's headed by a man by the name of James Riotti, who was involved with the Clinton Bank scandal, was kicked out of the United States for many years and so forth. | |
| But he's become one of the great funders, especially of reformed evangelical Christianity. | |
| And so in this, what they do is they do the public reaction, problem reaction solution game all the way through the document in terms of here's how faith can help the faithful be able to start accepting ideas like, I don't know collectivism socialism, responses to pandemic maybe abortion isn't so bad transhumanism yeah sure yes, exactly so that this can be overwhelming to a lot of Christians and just people listening to this in general. | |
| Yeah, how do we win? | |
| Well, how we win is by speaking truth into the error, and one of the problems is when you have we're talking about communities, you know, affinity groups and so forth, whether it be political, faith-based is that if you start to tell the truth about what's happening, all of a sudden you can be quote kicked out of the tribe right disfellowshipped, or whatever the case may be. | |
| You have to be willing to stand and ask the right questions and not just wait for a half-hearted answer or an answer that doesn't really solve the problem itself. | |
| But we want people that we can trust um, especially in terms of faith. | |
| But when those men begin to veer off and be a part of something that's actually disrupting and dismantling our world, disrupting and dismantling the church, disrupting and dismantling your faith itself. | |
| Yes, in the end, in other, in other words, to try to reach a certain goal. | |
| That's not a good thing. | |
| So, speaking truth, I totally agree and i'm not sure where you fall down on this. | |
| Maybe probably in the middle, with some good, some bad, Elon purchasing Twitter in the calendar of 2022. | |
| Does that make us make it easier, more likely, or is it just kind of a a distraction? | |
| Well uh, we love the fact that so much is being revealed. | |
| A lot's been revealed about you personally, that's correct, and how you were suppressed. | |
| Yeah, I was patient, zero in some ways of the do not amplify regime. | |
| Yeah, i'm one of those as well. | |
| And but James Lindsay, our friend as well, was back on twitter and now he's back. | |
| Right it's, it's huge. | |
| So Elon has done something to where basically basically, he's become a savior in many ways of social media in terms of communication. | |
| The problem is is that you don't want to ever consider somebody a complete savior um, especially when uh, you know that person and again, I respect Elon, I appreciate what he's done, but he's also dedicated to transhumanism. | |
| So there's a little bit. | |
| Yeah, let's wait, let's have some questions. | |
| I know that Jordan Peterson has tried to dialogue with him a little bit on this and so forth, on Neuralink in particular. | |
| Well, Neuralink would be one of those things and that debuted in terms of the company a few years ago and now they apparently are ready for Human trials now. | |
| So, what is transhumanism? | |
| Just for some of our listeners that aren't familiar with the term. | |
| It's transitioning humanity into something else. | |
| So, as opposed to like waiting for what they would say millions of years of evolution, is beginning to be a part of making man better or transitioning us into something that is both digitally connectable as well as, and I'm sorry, I don't want to freak anybody out here, but basically, what you're doing is you're creating God in the image of man. | |
| So, when you talk about artificial intelligence, you're talking about an omniscient, omniscient, omnipresent being, and you're talking about rule by algorithm. | |
| But if you're able to, almost like how the Holy Spirit indwells us in Christianity, if somehow that indwelling of artificial intelligence is now within you, both to help you to grow more in terms of your understanding of things, but not only that, but to take a lot of your bad ideas and replace them with good ideas. | |
| Take away your bad memories and replace them with good memories. | |
| That's where we end up, and we're not far from that. | |
| We end up getting in a lot of trouble if we start going down there. | |
| It's the merging of man and machine, but even more than that, it's the creation of a new species. | |
| Correct. | |
| And as well, there's the other concepts of basically being able to, and there's a lot of already a lot of research, a lot of development in terms of ending the aging process and so forth. | |
| So, there's a lot of benefits that are to be talked about. | |
| The problem is that we might lose humanity itself. | |
| But they want that. | |
| I mean, they think humanity is, in their own words, an inefficient species. | |
| You have to use the rest of them all the time. | |
| You got to keep feeding them, prone to commit crime, super lazy. | |
| This is what they say in their own literature. | |
| Right. | |
| And so, why wouldn't we try to improve it? | |
| Is what their argument is. | |
| Well, yeah, why wouldn't you? | |
| Well, that should be up to you or me. | |
| So, what you're doing is you're taking away individualism. | |
| You're taking away the choice of someone saying, I live this way. | |
| I am guaranteed these rights. | |
| They're inalienable in nature and so forth. | |
| What you're doing is replacing with a collective notion that we all are in this together for the common good. | |
| And so, their goal, which I think is super creepy, weird, demonic, and wrong, is through using computer technology, artificial intelligence into your brain, into you. | |
| This is where Neuralink, on the surface, Neuralink says they're just trying to solve people that are paralyzed or TBI, traumatic brain injury, right? | |
| Right. | |
| So, then, how would that be viewed differently than just medical assistance? | |
| I guess in that micro-dosed example, it's not necessarily alarming, right? | |
| Well, no, and I mean, what you're going to see, I think, right away with Neuralink is you're going to see people that have been paralyzed or that have cognitive issues. | |
| That's going to be able to be repaired. | |
| I mean, it's going to be a miracle in many ways. | |
| Which we're okay with morally, right? | |
| Because that's what I mean. | |
| That's prosthetic leg, right? | |
| I mean, and what's so crazy is that we got all this cool technology. | |
| The problem is that it's being misused by people that are totalitarian. | |
| So, but they look at this as a way to almost go full minority report, basically. | |
| Possibly. | |
| Yeah. | |
| If you don't know the movie Minority Report, it's a good one. | |
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| If this conversation has piqued your curiosity, get tickets to Amfest, A-M-F-E-S-T.com. | |
| Michael O'Fallon will be there. | |
| James Lindsay is speaking. | |
| Yes. | |
| It's just going to be terrific. | |
| I think you guys have a booth, right? | |
| We do something like that. | |
| Great. | |
| James will be there. | |
| I'll be there. | |
| I'm really excited about that. | |
| So I was talking about this in the break. | |
| I think it'd be fun to talk about this publicly. | |
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| I think that the technology, the advancement and the acceleration of technology is actually behind their plans and their dreams and their ambitions. | |
| The metaverse is a total failure. | |
| Oculus is not as popular as they would like it to be. | |
| Do you agree with that, Michael? | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | |
| You know, I think that obviously technology has come a long, long way, but it's not where they want it to be in terms of really trying to create this algorithmic society. | |
| And I think the amount of citizen pushback has been far overwhelming in regards to what they expected it to be. | |
| So I think one of the issues is that they're still going to try to push us. | |
| The question is, is how much we push back? | |
| Because one thing that they don't want to see is they don't want to see bloodshed and so forth. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| And we don't want that. | |
| We don't want that either. | |
| Very clearly, we don't want that. | |
| So, but Michael, what I'm getting at here, and I think this is a sign of hope, is they have all these ambitions and these dreams. | |
| Some would say, I would say they're rather dystopian, but the equivalent would be, you know, Huxley predicting human beings could be, you know, manufactured and boring, and then you just still can't do that. | |
| There are some dystopian, rather tyrannical things they've been able to get done. | |
| The iPhone has been, I think, wildly and magically more successful over the last decade than they could have imagined. | |
| But there are some missing widgets here in their machinery where artificial intelligence, that's right, not the right word, but virtual reality, let's use it that way, is not catching on the way I think they would have liked so far. | |
| Right, right. | |
| And I think it's really hurt meta's entire business. | |
| Yes. | |
| You know, so yeah, there's, I think, going to be continued offering to try to take people out of completely out of the physical world and into this kind of digital spiritual world, this hyper-reality. | |
| But I think that if enough people can say, look, I just want to get back to the real. | |
| You know, I want real relationships. | |
| I want to live in the real world, eat real food, not necessarily whatever it is they're trying to shove down our throats right now. | |
| I totally agree with this. | |
| The real is the future. | |
| It is. | |
| And that's the thing, the objective real world with, you know, and it's not objective real life too, to where, you know, you have people that are basically LARPing their entire lives now. | |
| What is LARPing for its live action role? | |
| Live act role-playing. | |
| And look, when you see all these photographs of people that are in the military with dog faces on, or, you know, you see them, you know, women dressed up as kind of this, you know, anime or whatever it is, you know, is that as opposed to someone being a man or a woman, they are now being a part of whatever little thing that they're really into. | |
| Right. | |
| And so just like how you put up, you know, some sort of picture that you have on your Twitter handle is that they're doing that in real life. | |
| So it's crossing over. | |
| I think you hit it perfectly. | |
| I've been saying this for a while. | |
| There is a soul yearning for the real. | |
| Yes. | |
| And it was one of the reasons why this generation is the most depressed, suicidal, alcohol, and drug-addicted generation in history. | |
| They are so disconnected from the real, which also means suffering, difficulty, adversity. | |
| Right. | |
| That's part of the real. | |
| Where do you turn to? | |
| You know, where do you turn to then for that real and for those real relationships, even when your pastors are involved in this? | |
| Yes, they turn to some portal that only makes them more miserable, confused, hopeless, and aimless. | |
| Right. | |
| And I think that that's where like TPUSA has become a place where people are like, you know, I just want to connect with something that's real. | |
| I want to talk about the things that I see around me that are falling apart and just to be with other people that agree with that and are willing to even argue about it. | |
| And I think that's part of what our event this weekend hopes to accomplish. | |
| Yes. | |
| And this is much bigger than politics. | |
| I hope everyone understands that. | |
| This is existence as we know it. | |
| Right. | |
| It's the species that we're talking about. | |
| But you just hit on something. | |
| It's not just about humanity, it's actually existence itself. | |
| Yes. | |
| You know, as we know it on this planet. | |
| I mean, it's existential. | |
| Yeah, it is correct. | |
| We hear that word so often. | |
| It's just not overused here. | |
| That's really what we're talking about. | |
| It is the closest, most clear existential crisis. | |
| Correct. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| That one could possibly think of. | |
| Tell people about your podcast, your website, all that good stuff. | |
| Sure. | |
| A website is sovereignnations.com. | |
| I have two podcasts that I do. | |
| One's called Public Occurrences, both foreign and domestic, and as well, The Causes of Things. | |
| I love that. | |
| And you're going to be at AmericaFest. | |
| You guys will have a booth. | |
| People can come by and say hello. | |
| One of my goals for 2023 is just to do more of this type of long-form content with you and James. | |
| I think it's important. | |
| And you were one of the pioneers of these conversations with Bogogian and James years ago. | |
| But it is the species, and you and I both actually love human beings. | |
| Amen. | |
| Unlike some of the masters of the universe. | |
| Yes. | |
| All right, Michael, thank you so much. | |
| Thank you. | |
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