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Oct. 17, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Ask Charlie Anything 124: Monetization of Medical Mutilation? Paul Ryan's Betrayal? And MORE
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Campus Dialogues and Student Questions 00:02:11
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From Jerry from New Jersey.
Charlie, I'm all on board with you on how disgusting these surgeries are towards young children, but my liberal friends think it's just fine.
How do I go about convincing them?
Love the show, and I've subscribed to the podcast.
Thank you very much.
We appreciate that.
So look, I've been very outspoken about this, and I talked about this with a lot of students at University of Texas, Austin, mostly and mainly in my campus interactions with people when I kind of set up the table at University of Texas, Austin and have a dialogue back and forth.
Healthcare Profit vs Natural Order 00:08:41
And there was one person, I don't know what gender this person was, and I don't mean that in a derogatory way.
I'm actually meaning it more respectfully.
I literally couldn't tell.
I think it was a man who came up and was defending, let's just say, very aggressive medical interventions for children.
And the video will speak for itself.
But one of the things that I got out of this person, him, her, whatever, him, was that he was an economic leftist.
Okay, I am not.
But growing up, I have to admit, the hardest argument that myself as a market person, I used to be much more market puritanical 10 years ago than I am now, where I love markets, but I want markets to work so they serve people.
People should not serve markets.
But one of the hardest arguments that I had to navigate as someone who was a free market defender is when someone on the economic left would say, hey, how can you trust a company whose vested profit interest is to get you addicted to their substance over a period of time and not necessarily improve your health?
Now, my response to that was that it depends on the situation and that you'll have competition.
And I'll be very honest, there's a very valid point that this is an externality in the market that we really got to talk about.
For example, is it really in the best interest of McDonald's to have you eat better food?
No, they want it to be pleasurable and have it taste good.
Now, does that mean you outlaw McDonald's?
Of course not.
That's not the point.
But another very basic example is a company will always be in the business to keep their product addicting.
Now, in some ways, that's actually not always a bad thing.
You might say, well, Charlie, come on, what kind of product could be good if it's addicting?
A treadmill.
That's a good thing.
Now, you could obviously run too much and get hurt, obviously.
But if a Peloton bike is enjoyable, then that's a good thing.
So, not all things that are designed to get you to use something on a regular basis is necessarily a bad thing.
I'll give you another great example: Audible readers.
If you're reading a bunch of books because it's easy to read it on Audible, praise God, that's awesome.
If you're listening to more podcasts like the Charlie Kirk show, that's all great things.
So, if you're there's there's plenty of things where you could use that example, but the generally one of the arguments that if I was just in the strict libertarian position that I would struggle with is this idea of the creation of a lifelong pharmaceutical patient, almost an annuity for the pharma state over a longer period of time because of an intervention that was done when the child was very, very young.
And so, if a company's profit motive, which generally profit is a very good thing, generally it's a great thing.
Generally, it makes for better products and for improved conditions and for lower prices, but there are externalities to things.
And I think in healthcare, to actually agree with some of the critiques I used to struggle with a decade ago from some of the more economic leftist people is that there is something that you wonder: is there ever a time when a company is pushing something to you under the guise that it's good for you?
In reality, it's actually really bad for you because they stand to make a bunch of money.
And the best example of this, well, there's a ton of them.
The vaccine is an example of that and many others.
But another, a just huge example of this, if you guys get Cut 39 ready to go, I'll call for it in a second, is the medical mutilation of children.
Is and where is the left coming in and saying, hold on a second, why are you standing to profit off of chopping kids' parts off?
And basically, if you were to paraphrase Lieutenant Aldo Rain from Inglorious Bastards, where he said, Son, we are in the Nazi hunting business and business is a booming.
And you could just say the very same if you're the head of Stanford Children's or Vanderbilt Children's or Boston Children's, friend, we're in the chopping off parts of kids business and business is a booming.
Play Cut 39.
As transgender people are more openly being able to seek therapy, the demand for transgender surgery has increased by five-fold over the past five years.
However, if as soon as puberty blockers were added and then estrogen was added to her therapy, Avery's testes never developed.
In fact, she does not make any sperm.
And her reproductive capability to be a biological parent has been eliminated.
Her testes are non-functional.
And in medicine, don't we often recommend the removal of non-functional organs like an appendix?
So, therefore, does it make sense for Avery to wait until she's 18?
Or should older adolescents be allowed to have surgery before the age of 18?
So, that is a very convoluted argument of saying we need to now remove parts that don't work because we damage those parts before the age of 18.
Remember, in that Vanderbilt clip that Matt Walsh found, the doctor notes that trans surgeries are great because there's so much follow-up and lots of money to make long term.
This is the monetization of the medical health of your children.
There is no other way to put it.
And my frustration, and this is kind of, is that all of the people on the left that I grew up debating, again, it was the argument I struggled with the most, which is that we have a product that is bad for you, and it is our vested interest to propagandize and to lie about it.
And that's true in this case.
Where is the left saying this is their, this is not right.
This is profit gone wrong.
And the answer is you have to understand the hierarchy of what matters most on the left.
We've done lots of programs on this.
What matters most.
Scientism matters more than neo-Marxism.
In fact, scientism is the top level.
Scientism matters even more than race Marxism, believe it or not.
Scientism is the irrefutable leader of the American left right now.
By the way, these surgeries go wrong all the time.
These fake sex organs they make fall apart.
And then when they do, more money.
And by the way, I hate to be graphic.
We call these things bottom and top surgeries.
These are euphemisms for literally boring holes into kids' pelvises.
Business is a booming.
Just replace in this clip Nazi hunting with chopping off kids' parts, play cut 108.
I assume you know who we are.
Your elder DiApache.
Woo!
But weren't you heard of us?
You probably heard we ain't into prisoner-taking business.
We in the killing Nazi business.
And cousin businesses are booming.
And that is exactly what every single one of these freaks that call themselves doctors say every single day.
Business is a booming.
They look at your children as a potential annuity, as a science experiment.
And this is moving so quickly.
They want to be God so bad.
They want to have dominion over the natural order.
It's part of why they are also obsessed with abortion.
They want to be able to crush the innocence of a child.
If a child who is propagandized by the Chinese Communist Party TikTok, then all of a sudden thinks like, well, I'm actually a boy, which young girls have a lot of identity issues because they're going through puberty.
This is not a new thing.
Then all of a sudden, you know, let's go give you Lupron, remove your breasts, and engage in irreversible damage.
We shouldn't put up with this.
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Changing Oaths and Colonialism Acknowledgement 00:07:50
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All right, I'm going to give you a fair warning.
This all ties into this.
Harry from Minnesota says, Charlie, did you see the latest clip out of the University of Minnesota Medical School?
It ties perfectly into what we're talking about.
I want to give you a warning.
I want you to write this down.
I want you to remember it.
If you ever, in the next 10 years, 20 years or 30 years, happen to be in a doctor's office and you look at the wall and you're waiting and you're listening to the music and you're looking, you know, reading through the magazines and all of a sudden you see a diploma on the wall of all their certifications.
And if you happen to see University of Minnesota, run quickly, cancel your appointment and find another doctor.
The University of Minnesota Medical School, this is not the transgender group on campus.
This is not BLM.
This is not the philosophy department.
No, these are the future doctors, nurses, OBGYNs, endocrinologists, neurologists, psychologists.
The University of Minnesota Medical School requires students to pledge to fight colonialism and the gender binary.
They have upgraded the Hippocratic Oath, and it is not students that did this.
This is the top levels of the University of Minnesota Medical School that are requiring students to pledge to fighting colonialism and the gender binary.
No exaggeration.
These people are the ones that are going to be in very intimate personal environments with people.
What does it exactly mean to fight colonialism?
Fight white people?
What does that mean exactly?
Play Cut 107.
We, Twin Cities Medical School class of 2026, commit to uprooting the legacy and perpetuation of structural violence deeply embedded within the healthcare system.
We recognize inequities built by past and present traumas rooted in white supremacy, colonialism, the gender binary, ableism, and all forms of oppression.
This is a required oath.
The medical school has to recite.
And I got to be very honest, I get fired up and I am losing patience.
Because sometimes I go to some of our Turning Point USA donor events and I hear people say, well, you know, University of Minnesota is not that bad and, you know, the wokies kind of stay in their corner.
That's the medical school.
That is not the humanities.
No, that these are people that are supposed to be rooted in reason and an inquiry of the natural and scientific world.
And they're saying we know that our country is built on white supremacy and on colonialism and on ableism and on structural inequities and that we pledge to fight these things as a doctor.
What exactly does that mean?
Does that mean that given the choice, they're not going to administer health care to a white person, just asking for a friend?
How does this play out exactly?
They have changed the Hippocratic Oath from service, regardless of skin color or background or income, to Hippocratic Oath of Now, which is a social justice incantation, quasi-pagan cult religious vow.
That right there, what you just heard, that is a religious statement.
If you came into the ER with a MAGA hat in Minneapolis, are they going to serve you?
This is a level that we have not seen in quite some time.
And by the way, again, hate to keep plugging it.
The college scam, we've been trying to warn against this.
This is not just the future, you know, kids on the side of the street and they become Starbucks baristas.
Oh, yeah, it's so funny, you know, but I'm going to keep on supporting University of Minnesota because they are a great school.
Go gophers.
They're requiring nurses to say they're going to administer health care based on a belief of white supremacists' colonialist values.
This is people's lives.
This is not, by the way, it'd be one thing if they were taught this, bad.
Another thing if that they were taught to repeat it in a test, bad.
This is their new North Star mission statement.
They're forced to read off a piece of paper.
And one of our listeners is saying, what happened to reciting the Hippocratic Oath?
This is the new Hippocratic Oath that they are putting in.
They're changing the Hippocratic Oath.
The new Hippocratic Oath is saying we must acknowledge white supremacy and structural racism.
We must acknowledge colonialism.
The new generation of doctors at the University of Minnesota Twin Cities is being raised up to not help people, but to be social justice activists.
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Why are we, how did this happen?
Because we were nice for too long.
Nice people have done a lot of damage to America.
There's a lot of boomers out there that are really nice.
God bless you.
Being nice has allowed evil to take over all this stuff.
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We got one from Jeremy.
I was just listening to your piece on the Minnesota Medical School.
I work at Sanford Health in Fargo, North Dakota, and they refuse to recognize Columbus Day and refer to it in woke terminology.
All employees just got an email saying happy indigenous.
They also support pride and all the leftist values.
I'd love to see more attention brought to these big medical facilities that are practicing leftist values more than medicine.
Yeah, I mean, look, North Dakota has some of the weakest Republicans in the country, I have to say.
It's been such a disappointment.
It is the most, it is the greatest misalignment between phenomenal people.
The people in North Dakota are awesome.
I get so many emails from them.
I love going to North Dakota.
Oh, I just love it.
And then the politicians are so crummy.
They're so weak.
They're so cowardly.
They're so corrupt.
It's just such a disappointment.
You guys deserve so much better.
In Arizona, we have Cary Lake.
Florida has Ron DeSantis.
Yeah, I don't know about North Dakota.
Church Politics and Biblical Transformation 00:03:16
Okay, let's get to another question here.
Oh, I want to play this one.
Okay, yeah, this kind of goes on to this.
Sal has a question from Mississippi about churches becoming politicized.
This clip plays into it.
Play Cut66.
This is a pastor at Drag Queen Story Hour at a local church.
By the way, if you're a Christian, listen to this.
I really hope you know that churches across the country are having transgender events in their church quite often.
And this is probably an Episcopalian church, if I'm not mistaken.
Can we find out what church it is, please?
PlayCut 66.
Well, one of the things I think is great about Miss Pentecost is she reminds us that we follow a God who calls us to not conform to things of this world.
That we're supposed to be transformed by the renewal of our minds.
And that means that what I think today may have to change tomorrow if I continue to renew my mind.
And it's so cool that we serve a God that calls us to continue to grow and continue to change into something new.
This guy's a very sick person.
I hope you understand that.
First of all, that's not what the scripture says.
Okay.
I happen to know the 12th chapter of Romans better than most.
It says, do not conform to the patterns of this world, moron.
So don't conform to the patterns of the world like that transgender freak you brought into your church.
So why don't you tell the kids that?
The first part of it, it says, don't do what the world is doing.
What is the world doing?
Drag queen story hour.
LGBT stuff.
So the first part of the teaching, you heretic, heretical loser, is, well, don't conform to it, but instead it says, be transformed by what?
By your mind getting renewed by what?
What's Romans 12, 1?
What's Romans 12, 3?
It's all about the mercy of God coming down to us and answers the question, how do we respond to God's great mercy?
And the answer is by living, breathing sacrifices using our life in service of God, which also means the natural law.
We need to break free of the me first pattern and then have our minds change in order to better understand what God wants for us.
Look, I'm sorry, I'm not sure in any way, shape, or form, it might not be religious.
God doesn't want you normalizing child abuse.
Allendale United Methodist Church.
Not to mention, so again, it says, do not conform to the ways of this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind.
And then the verse continues that you, by testing, you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
Do you really think that God having children, that God looks at children having their parts chopped off, would consider that to be good, acceptable, and perfect?
You don't have to go too deep into the teachings of Jesus, where he was very clear about what happens when you pray on children.
If any one of you causes these little ones, those who believe in me, to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
This is Allendale United Church, United Methodist Church in Florida.
Military Inclusivity and National Values 00:13:50
And by the way, I say this, yeah, I'll say it.
There's a special place in hell for twisting scripture to pervert children.
Okay, let's get to another question here.
We're getting your thoughts.
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To say to kids, yeah, you could do whatever you want.
You go take Lupron.
That's unbelievable.
It really kind of does come down to some of the self-love garbage that is being taught in our society.
I listened to a very good speech from Dennis Prager on it, and I do want to talk about it, but let's get to some other stuff first.
Okay, here's a question here.
Sally from Montana.
Charlie, my son wants to go into the military.
I heard you talk about this at your turning point USA event at Grand Canyon University.
What do you think?
Should my son go into the military?
So I answered the question at GCU, and I said very clearly that the threat that I, the concern I would have for your son or your daughter, and not in this instance, it's not a daughter, but if your son or daughter wants to go into the military, is the wokeism that is just pervading into our military.
Military recruitment is down 25%.
It is at its lowest level since the 1970s, since the Vietnam War.
And in a normal and decent and functioning society, we would take pause and say, why is military enrollment down so much?
Does anyone want to answer that question?
I want to ask that question.
Is the media working on a big piece saying, oh, I wonder why military enrollment is down 20%?
Well, this army secretary, who's now the best that we have, I guess, what a joke, says she doesn't even know what woke means.
How would this person be acting differently if they were on CCP payroll?
Show me the differences of actions.
Play cut 34.
You know, we get criticized, frankly, sometimes for being woke.
I'm not sure what woke means.
I think woke means a lot of different things to different people.
But I think, you know, we do have a wide range of soldiers in our Army, and we've got to make them all feel included.
And that's why a lot of our diversity, equity, and inclusion programs are important.
No, you don't.
You don't have to make them feel included.
Who the heck?
Where do you get that idea?
Is the purpose of the military to make people feel included?
How does no one challenge her on this?
It's Christine War Month.
You think George S. Patton was interested in making people feel included?
Do you think General Douglas MacArthur was worried about making people feel included?
If there was one place where I think intolerance needs to be, let's just say, pretty acceptable, it's the U.S. military.
No, here's an example.
So if Christine Warmuth says people need to feel included, should we not have any sort of physical fitness requirement to be able to join the military?
I mean, Mark Milley is exhibit A that physical fitness doesn't really matter to be able to join our military.
So if we just have someone who's 450 pounds, yeah, like, come on, pal.
Should we no longer have height requirements to be able to fly F-35s, which by the way, if you're very tall, you have to sign special waivers because it's hard to eject yourself.
No, by definition, the military has to be harsh.
All of society does not have to be like the military.
I fully admit that.
But the military, if there's one place where inclusivity should not be a value, it should be the United States military.
It's like, well, we want our soldiers to feel comfortable.
Really?
Well, what is the mission of the U.S. military exactly?
General Mark Milley says, I want to understand white rage, and I'm white.
So to answer the question, why is it that military enrollment is down 20%?
Why would you fight for a government that hates you?
And by the way, what is this woman's title, Christine Warmuth?
How many wars has she won?
Christine Warmuth, social justice warrior, woke loser, secretary of the Army.
What a joke.
Well, we want our diverse amount of people.
Of course, it's just, you can't write this.
She has her political science degree from Williams College.
And if you know anything about Williams College, it is one of the most liberal, left-wing, intolerant universities in America, Williams College in Massachusetts.
I used to think the military was there to fight wars and win wars and crush the enemy and kill the enemy.
Not make people feel included.
Cut 111.
Remember Mark Milley, who obviously is a living example that weight requirements mean nothing to be involved in the U.S. military.
Play cut 111.
And it is important that we train and we understand.
And I want to understand white rage.
And I'm white.
And I want to understand it.
So what is it that caused thousands of people to assault this building and try to overturn the Constitution of the United States of America?
What caused that?
I want to find that out.
Yeah, I mean, who planted the pipe bombs, Mark Mille?
Who's Ray Epps?
He is such a parrot of the regime.
U.S. Army missed recruiting by 25%.
We got an email from Douglas here.
Good afternoon, Charlie.
Just wanted to remark on this subject.
As a veteran under the 82 who served in Afghanistan and was honorably discharged, thank you for your service.
I mean that.
By the way, none of this is a critique of the wonderful service members.
I hope that's clear.
It should be.
So I just want to make sure I reinforce that.
My heart is broken over knowing how the most proud time of my life has been tainted under this wokeness with much respect from Douglas.
Douglas, that's right.
I got to be very honest.
What's happening by these maniacs is tainting the great heroism, and it shouldn't.
That's not right, but it's life and it's true.
The great heroism of our soldiers is now being blended and blurred by these college academics.
I said at Grand Canyon University, the U.S. military is becoming a college campus with missiles.
Email here.
Charlie, I know exactly what you're talking about in Minneapolis.
My son and his friends who are Christian live in that area.
My grandchildren have nurses that wear hijabs.
The stores they go to have the same when I visit them.
I feel like a third world country.
My son's representative is Elon Omar.
They live five blocks from where George Floyd died.
When I visit, I see drug sellers, homeless, gunshots, and drug addicts.
My son has a PhD in computer programming from and was a professor at UMN.
They fired my son because he wouldn't get the vaccine.
What's worse is they would not give him recommendation for other jobs.
Of course not.
Again, it's so bad, they have to purchase a farm out in Langford, Minnesota.
They plan on letting their daughter finish her school year.
I pray that God protects them in his love, Pauline.
Minnesota is a beautiful, beautiful state with great people.
And that is just another example.
Minnesota and North Dakota.
There's something too.
And by the way, Seattle is very similar.
I have a whole theory about this, and it's a generalization theory.
But Scandinavians are such sweet, private people.
I think their sweetness and their lack of confrontation has allowed the worst aspects of humanity to take over their political system.
They taught Minnesota nice.
By the way, the two cities that the Scandinavians built is Seattle and Minnesota.
Minneapolis, I should say.
Sorry, be more clear.
Seattle and Minneapolis.
And it's now just dominated by left-wing politics.
I'll say it again: nice people have done a lot of damage to our country.
I don't care if you're nice.
Are you good?
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I got a question here about Paul Ryan.
We're in our kind of group chat here lamenting.
I fully admit I used to be a huge Paul Ryan fan when I was very young.
Not recently, back in 2012 and 13.
Producer Andrew even donated to Paul Ryan.
We thought he was the one.
It's that Star Wars meme, right?
Of Obi-Wan over the volcano with Anakin Skywalker.
You were supposed to be the one.
He became Darth Vader.
Yeah, Paul Ryan was Tea Party and he was supposed to be able to kind of outmaneuver the liberals on arguments about the national debt and all of that.
It's funny.
We used to actually talk about issues like that.
Now we're debating whether or not we should be able to chemically cash trade an eight-year-old.
We used to talk about the penny plan and fiscal policy.
All wonderful things.
I just, that's not what we do anymore.
Okay, so Paul Ryan is coming out with this expert political advice.
I don't know who's taking it or who's listening.
So Paul Ryan comes out 113 and giving his contributions to the American political landscape.
113.
I think Trump's unelectability will be palpable by then.
We all know that he will lose, or he's, let me put it this way.
We all know that he's so much more likely to lose the White House than anybody else running for president on our side of the aisle.
So why would we want to go with that?
So the only reason he stays where he is is because everybody's afraid of him.
They're afraid of him, you know, going after them, hurting their own ambition.
But as soon as you get sort of the herd mentality going, it's unstoppable.
So I think the fact that he polls so much poorer than anybody else running for president as a Republican against a Democrat is enough right there.
He's going to know this.
And so whether he runs or not, I don't really know if it matters.
He's not going to be the nominee, I don't think.
That's my view.
So he's saying that Trump can't win a primary?
Is that the argument of Paul Ryan right now?
Has he seen a single Republican primary in this last nine months from the Michigan election with Tudor Dixon or Kerry Lake in Arizona?
When Trump endorses somebody, it ends political careers.
How would that not translate in a GOP primary?
It reminds me of this, Mr. Paul Ryan, play cut 114.
You are the chosen one.
It was said that you would destroy this and not join them.
That's the AOC meme at the end.
Paul Ryan had such potential as he became Speaker of the House and he was a spokesperson and he really became kind of a parrot for the neoliberal regime.
He's become a lobbyist, all this sort of stuff.
It's been a big disappointment.
It's just so interesting to me how establishment Democrats and Republicans are so smug and synthetic compared to MAGA candidates who are just so authentic.
I mean, we had Mark Fincham.
We have Kerry Lake.
Yeah, I mean, Paul Ryan really, really hoodwinked me.
I got to be honest.
It's really, it's sad.
And he could have really been something.
Okay, I want to play this one more time.
We did this previously, but it's worthy of repeating.
Cut 84, AOC interrupted by anti-war protesters.
Play cut 84.
Congresswoman, none of this matters unless there's a nuclear war, which you voted to send arms and weapons to Ukraine.
There will be no neighbors if there's a nuclear bomb.
You voted to mobilize and send money to Ukrainian Nazis.
You're a coward.
You're a progressive socialist.
Where are you against the war mobilization?
I believed in you, and you became the very thing you sought to fight against.
You became the very thing you sought to fight against.
Very similar to that Star Wars clip, isn't it?
AOC better watch out.
There is a Democrat grassroots civil war brewing of the grassroots that actually might challenge their Democrat leaders being like, what have you done exactly for me recently?
It's very interesting, though.
AOC does a town hall in her district.
Completely empty audience.
You know who doesn't have empty audiences?
Our Turning Point USA events.
Candace Owens goes to Michigan State University.
Got to turn away hundreds of kids.
UT Austin, we had a packed house.
Grand Canyon, well, over a thousand.
We aren't members of Congress.
We're just here to talk about ideas and values and try to convince you to have a conservative worldview.
I wonder who's really winning.
I think we'll find out very soon.
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