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Sept. 13, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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'Screw the WHO' + Tales from a J6 Prison Cell with Ashli Babbitt's Mother and James Rogurski
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Join James Roguski on the Show 00:02:06
Hey, everybody.
Today in the Charlie Kirk Show, James Roguski joins us about the World Health Organization and how you can help.
Ashley Babbitt's mother, Mickey, joins us forashley.com, the number 4, ASHLI.com in remembrance of Ashley Babbitt.
And we also talk about the political prisoners and persecution that's happening in Washington, D.C.
She joins the program.
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The Global Game of Control 00:14:56
He is leading the charge against the WHO.
He has some news to share and a call to action for all of you against the Chinese Communist Party purchased asset known as the World Health Organization.
Welcome to the program.
Charlie, thank you very much for having me.
The timing is very, very important.
The WHO is conducting what I think is a charade and an attempt to create propaganda under the guise of a public comment period about their quote-unquote pandemic treaty negotiations.
Unbeknownst to most people in the world, every nation has delegates to the WHO, and they've been given instructions to submit proposals for this international pandemic treaty by September 15th.
They've also been instructed to submit proposals for amendments to the international health regulations by September 30th.
The WHO is going to be having a meeting on the last two days of September 29th and 30th.
And what they've concocted is starting on this past Friday, Saturday, Sunday, today, ending tomorrow at 8 a.m. Eastern, I'm sorry, 8 a.m. Pacific time.
So there's only about 21 or 22 hours left.
They're asking people around the world to submit 90-second videos.
Your opinion about what the WHO should or should not do.
There you go.
You're showing the basic information.
The deadline is 5 p.m. in Geneva.
For an audience in the United States, that's obviously early morning tomorrow.
So there's less than a day for people to do this.
Now, arguably, in my opinion, this is a psychological operation masquerading as a public comment period.
They're asking everyone for their identification.
You have to hold it up to the screen and have it be identified.
And so right off the bat, that turns off a lot of people who don't want to participate in something like that, which filters out opinions that may be different than what the WHO would like to hear.
And then they've said they're going to curate whatever it is they do receive into essentially a mixtape.
They're going to make two, three-hour compilation videos, which would ultimately have 240 people from the entire world.
That's just not how public comment works.
You don't get to curate public comment.
So what I've asked everyone to do is go to screwthewho.com, which you just put up on the screen, screwthewho.com, and submit your videos there.
I'm not going to stop taking videos from people who have something to say.
Post them up on your favorite video platform and send me the link, and we'll do everything we can to get everybody's voices heard.
That's fabulous.
Let's look at an example, the great Steve Kirsch PlayCut 34.
In my opinion, the biggest mistake that world leaders have made is allowing and in some cases actively encouraging the censorship of qualified scientists who hold opposing views.
Now, never before in history have we resolved differences by intimidating and censoring those with opposing views.
Millions of lives could have been saved, and the lockdowns and other mitigation measures would have been completely unnecessary.
Centralizing control in a single organization would compound these mistakes and should be avoided at all costs.
So, James, that's all it's going to take, right?
Just a very simple video like that.
Well, the WHO is asking for 90-second videos, but the reality of it is trying to condense international relations into a 90-second video.
You know, that's part of the SYOP.
Now, by all means, if people want to submit their video to the WHO, you can certainly do that.
But I'm encouraging people to go long form and say whatever they want.
Be the media.
Charlie, you know, I encourage you, do a show and talk about this and say everything that you want to say because everyone's voices should be heard, not limited to 90 seconds and not limited to a specific topic and not curated and kicked out if it is something that they didn't like to say.
My personal favorite is one that you can't play on your show from Dr. Ben Marble.
You know, I encourage everyone to realize that this is a sham of a public comment period.
Back in April, we, with five days' notice, got 36,000 people.
They were doing written comments in April as well as live Zoom meeting.
And we got 36,000 comments.
People sent in within five days.
And the WHO did admit that the majority of those comments said, we don't want the WHO to negotiate any kind of legally binding international agreement.
Well, they just responded to that by canceling the public comment period that was scheduled in June.
And so they are just absolutely breaking all of the rules that were put into place in the WHO Constitution when it was founded in 1948.
They absolutely do not listen to regular old people like you and I.
They have a list of what they refer to as relevant stakeholders.
There's nearly 400 organizations that will get a chance to be at the meeting and meet in the committees and speak before the assembly, a group of people.
They get to input their information via an electronic portal.
And we're cast off to the side with a couple of days' notice to limit our speech to 90 seconds.
And only in certain languages, and think about it, half of the world doesn't have internet access.
So half of the world doesn't have the slightest chance of commenting, let alone why in the world would anybody know?
Because they just sneak it on their website a couple of days before.
I pay attention.
I see what they're doing all the time and I try to shine light on it.
This is making a mock.
Are there secret negotiations taking place?
Secret is a tough word, okay, because it's loosely public.
We know that they're going on.
They're going along two separate tracks.
One is the pandemic treaty.
They're trying to create a whole brand new pandemic treaty.
That is slightly more public.
But like I said, all of our delegates are sending documents, which we're going to be FOIAing right after the 15th when the deadline comes.
The negotiations and the discussions for the proposed amendments to the international health regulations are locked up tight.
I mean, there's no word about that whatsoever.
And so I would call those certainly secret.
At the end of July, the WHO had a meeting.
They were supposed to live stream five days worth of meetings.
They live streamed the first two.
They went absolutely dark the second two.
And then at the end of the day on that Thursday in July, they had a half-hour meeting where they proudly proclaimed how transparent they were because they were telling everyone that they had made a decision in secret.
And they were now going to tell you what decision they had made, which was that, yes, they want this treaty to be a legally binding international instrument.
Is this all an attempt for global control to basically supersede national sovereignty?
That's the main thrust of it.
The short answer is absolutely yes.
Currently, the WHO can, under Article 23, make recommendations.
If they had all of the authority they wanted and needed, why would they be negotiating for global governance in this working draft of their pandemic treaty?
Of course.
It's well said.
Okay.
Well, we're going to talk more about this after the break, about how it is a conduit.
We call it a Trojan horse.
That's so cliche, but it's actually really true.
The WHO.
And by the way, I just want to kind of remind people about how corrupt they are, about how bad they are at their own job, the World Health Organization.
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It's all laced with that very same sort of themes that the World Economic Forum talks about.
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So, James, explain how this is an agenda to try and erode national sovereignty and the individual directive to be able to choose the type of government you want to live under.
You know, it's really simple.
On page 17 of their working draft of their proposed pandemic treaty, it essentially says that the governance for the treaty would reside in the WHO.
Okay.
They use a lot of fancy words.
They talk about equity, but equity doesn't mean what people think it might mean.
What they're trying to do is get more shots, more drugs spread into Africa because they have not been compliant.
They talk about something called One Health, which again sounds good.
And kudos to you, Charlie.
You're going to be going through the great reset book.
I'm sure you know that the language that they use sounds so wonderful, but it's designed to hide what it really means.
One Health is essentially code for control of every aspect of society, not just human health, but animal health, meaning your pets and domestic farm animals and wild animals, which means they control everything to do with land.
They want to control farming and plant life and the environment.
It really literally is they want to take control of the world, and they want our delegates to the WHO to voluntarily sign away that sovereignty, that authority, that control.
And so if you're sleepwalking into this, and our delegates most certainly are, you can go around the world and ask anybody, do you know who your delegation is to the WHO?
The vast majority of people have no idea because it's very well hidden.
They're not democratically selected.
You don't get to vote for the people who go and represent the United States there.
And my question is, you know, have they actually been authorized to negotiate giving away our sovereignty?
There's supposed to be paperwork and documentation from the Secretary of State through a delegation of authority letter to whomever it is that's doing this negotiation saying, oh, yeah, by all means, you know, give away power and control, you know, to Tedros Cabratius, the dictator general of the World Health Organization.
They clearly do not have the authority they want under Article 23 of the WHO Constitution.
The WHO makes recommendations.
And with their hypnosis and the media and propaganda, anytime the WHO says something, it somehow gets misinterpreted into people's minds as if it's some kind of obligation.
And it isn't.
They're making a suggestion that's no different than if your in-law or your neighbor or your best buddy from school made a recommendation.
People use the WHO as a compass, right?
As a roadmap, right?
If the WHO says something, it's more likely to be implemented as policy.
And the CDC and the FDA and all of the other ones.
And so what's going on right now at this moment for the next 20 or so hours is the tail end of their, quite frankly, fake public comment period.
And so all I try to do, Charlie, and thank you for the opportunity is I go digging into the weeds.
I read all their crazy documents.
I see what they're up to, what they're doing.
I try to make it so that people can get up to speed a little bit.
There are multiple, multiple samples of videos.
You played one from Steve Kirsch on screwthewho.com.
If you just go watch what some other prominent and some regular people have already said about what their opinion of the WHO is, you will learn quite a lot.
You will get up to speed.
You will become more aware of what other people have to say about the WHO.
If you want to submit your video to them, it's right there on the site.
You can just click the link and do that.
But more importantly, say whatever it is you want to say.
Don't wait for the mainstream media.
Be the media.
Make the media.
Take that camera, play back at yourself.
You know, Charlie, you know, hopefully your audience will do that and they'll send you links to what they had to say.
And, you know, they can be your next guest, what their opinion is about the WHO.
What I'm trying to do is to do the type of public comment that they're going to be James.
You're going to invite from Andrew to come to our event this weekend.
So keep an eye on your inbox, James.
Hope you can make it.
Great commentary as always.
Screwthewho.com.
Hey, everybody.
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It is a tragedy what happened to Ashley Babbitt.
Some Republican officials said repeatedly that Lieutenant Michael Byrd, who killed Ashley Babbitt, acted correctly.
It's a tragedy.
It never should have happened.
It was a political execution.
And we're going to talk about that and the significance of it because the media doesn't like talking about how the Trump supporter was the one that was murdered by the police officer on January 6th.
With us right now is the mother of Ashley Babbitt.
Mickey Withoft joins us right now.
And the website to help support the effort and also to end political prisoners in America is the number four, Ashley, and Ashley is spelt ASHLI.com.
Mickey, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Thank you, Charlie.
Good to see you again.
So, Mickey, walk us through first and foremost what happened on January 6th.
I know it could be uncomfortable for you to retell this story, but our audience needs to remember it, and we'll go from there.
Well, on the 6th of January, Ashley went to Washington, D.C. to stand in solidarity with the other 2 million people that were there to redress her government in the stolen election.
And whether you believe in those Americans' right to protest or not, you have to believe, or what they were protesting, you have to believe in their right to protest.
Ashley was outside the speaker's lobby.
Zach Alam hit the glass until it broke with a Kevlar. helmet.
Ashley hit Zach Alam and seven seconds later she was dead or shot and then not rendered aid in a timely fashion.
It's my belief that if they had rendered aid to my daughter, she had a possibly survivable wound.
And not only would they not render aid to my daughter, they wouldn't let anybody else render aid.
There was a medic there with a complete, a Trump supporter, a citizen there with a medical kit that would have possibly saved her life, but he was pulled away and not allowed to help her.
And then they mopped her up like a piece of trash and went on with business.
And then Michael Byrd was exonerated for his crimes and never even properly interviewed by the police.
He told them, well, I don't feel so good right now.
I'm all upset.
And they said, okay, well, come talk to me when you're ready.
And that never happened.
And then he was exonerated.
And it's my belief Michael Byrd shouldn't have been there.
He had prior excessive use of force issues.
He had left his loaded weapon in a restroom two years before that and found by somebody else.
So I believe he should have been fired and not been there to shoot my daughter.
I feel like it was a patriotic day until the Capitol Police turned on the American people.
I feel like the agitators in the front of the line were FBI operatives and other bad actors that day, possibly Boston and Tifa.
And the Capitol Police did not deal with the violent frontline people.
They shot over those agitators into a peaceful crowd of Trump supporters and killed four people that day, unarmed American citizens, Roseanne Boylan, Kevin Grees, and Benjamin Phillips, my daughter Ashley Babbitt.
And also, I believe Officer Brian Sicknick died at their lack of attention, sticking with the theme of the day.
They did not render him aid after his stroke.
They let him go lay down in an office and become irreparable.
Was your daughter armed or was anybody alongside your daughter armed?
My daughter went to DC.
She just said, her and her husband went to Cabo for Christmas, so they don't have to do the decide which family to go to thing.
And she had decided down on the beach that she wanted to go see President Trump speak because she knew the election had been stolen from him.
And she said, maybe it might be my last chance to hear him speak.
And we didn't realize it was going to be her last chance to hear anybody speak.
But one nugget of comfort is that I have seen footage of my daughter live streaming on the inaugural path.
And I can see that that was a happy good day for her until it wasn't.
So my daughter did not go there with violent intention.
She did not cause any damage.
She didn't harm any police officers and was shot with little regard to her life.
I mean, Michael Byrd, you know, the standard Twitter reply, oh, she, after round, found out she should have complied.
There were no verbal commands for her to stand down.
My daughter was a four-time overseas deployed as an Air Force security forces, and she was well versed in the use of force continuum.
She was injured on her 21st birthday on her third deployment, nearly bled to death on that day, was airlifted to Germany for life-saving procedures, but was left with a shredded womb and unable to have children.
So Ashley gave her youth to this country.
She gave her ability to have family to this country and ultimately her life to this country.
And then she was denied render simply simply for being at the Capitol that day, because Ashley's not been charged with a crime, but the United States Air Force denied her rendering of honors.
So there's a lot of different things I want to mention with this.
What has been your response or lack of response with the Republican Party's handling of this?
I mean, it seems as if they just have kind of forgotten about Ashley, the one person who was killed on that day.
They're absolutely trying to.
And Ashley was letting, you know, like I said, she was not the only American citizen murdered that day.
She was just the only one that people saw.
You know, footage has come out, and there is video evidence of Roseanne Boylan being beaten to death by a Metropolitan Police officer, Lila Morris.
Kevin Greesman and Benjamin Phillips were hit with the munitions that they launched, that they launched over the heads of people and into a peaceful crowd.
A lot of those Americans did not, their first clue that they were no longer welcome was a rubber bullet to the head or a grenade at their feet.
And then the Capitol Police just waged war on the American people.
So, yeah, but have you received response, in your opinion, from anything like that?
Ashley lived in California, and obviously Nancy Pelosi never responded to me.
Diane Feinstein's people, her assistant got on the phone and he said, he said, although it's unfortunate, your daughter should not have stormed the Capitol and Dianne Feinstein will never have two minutes for you.
So that's been my response from my representatives.
And President Trump called me in July and expressed condolences.
And I've spoken with him since.
And he is still disappointed in the way that this has been happened.
And I believe in his mind, this isn't over yet.
And right now I'm in Washington, D.C. I've been here since August 1st outside the jail holding vigil.
We do a candlelight vigil every night and we sing the national anthem with these men who, despite their horrible treatment by this country, have they sing the national anthem together.
So we're there to sing with them.
And some of these men, you know, policemen, veterans, and most of them know violent history and really did little more than show up and wave a flag.
And for that, they've been in solitary, pre-detention, solitary confinement for 613 days now.
So you detailed that on the website, number fourashley.com.
Talk about the political prisoners.
I mean, this is, we're letting Gitmo prisoners who planned 9-11 out and send them back to Saudi Arabia.
In Illinois, there's a new bill called the safety bill, where if you kidnap or have second-degree murder, you can't have pre-trial detention.
But there are political prisoners for 613 days.
These people haven't had a trial in 613 days.
Is that right?
That is right.
And that's possible.
I mean, what happened to speedy trial?
I mean, we're heading on the two-year mark soon.
Right.
And not only that, but denial of a lot of their constitutional rights and their basic human rights.
You know, they're being fed slimy gross food.
We had an incident at the jail on Labor Day where we had one of our men, a former sheriff's office, a former sheriff in jail since, you know, I think he's got like 600 days in jail now.
And he was actually trying to prevent the murder of Roseanne Boylan.
He actually saved my housemate, Tommy Tatum, along with, you know, Jake Lang was in on that.
There are like a dozen men in jail over that pile of people that they were trying to render aid to.
And on Labor Day, Officer McAbee had his hands zip tied behind his back and OC sprayed right directly an inch from his face.
And then he was left in a cell and not able to decontaminate for 13 hours.
Bart Shively was in on that too.
I think Bart's in his 70s and he was at Camp Lejeune and has Hodgkin, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.
And he had a bad reaction that night when they were all roughed up and he got sent to a medical unit and was completely ignored for 30 hours.
Like not just his health concerns, but as a human being, denied complete attention for 30 hours when he was in near-death peril.
And it's at the hands of the guards.
They're being beaten.
We had our veteran, Jeffrey McKellop, he had an abscess tooth that he ended up having to take care of himself with a staple from his paperwork.
So this is worse than they're just, they don't even have any human rights, much less constitutional rights.
And Americans need to know that if constitutional rights are not guaranteed to every single one of us, they're not guaranteed to any of us because it might be you next.
And I know people hear that, oh, it might be me next, but that's real, that's real stuff.
It might be you next because, you know, it seems like the Constitution has gone out the window when it comes to J-Sixers.
When we sit in trials during the day and we hear judges say things like, you know, every single person there that day was the antithesis of a patriot, and the only patriots that day there were the Capitol Police.
And I disagree with that.
And I believe there's, I've seen video evidence showing the Capitol Police committing arrestable offenses.
And that's outside of Michael Byrd and Leela Morris.
And I absolutely think Michael Bird should be sitting in jail for murder.
And, you know, this sham J6 committee were who we would think we have.
Kinzinger and Liz Cheney were our representatives in that farce.
Kinzinger donated to Michael Bird's gifts and go with Prince.
He brags about that on Facebook that he had donated to Michael Bird's Gifts and Go.
So I don't really think we've had adequate, we've not had adequate representation anywhere.
And even when you do have good lawyers representing these people, the judges are just already biased and have their minds made up in such a particular way.
We went to the Kyle FitzSimons trial where he had a public defender that did an amazing job and in my mind disproved two of his assault charges.
And so we're waiting on the verdict for that right now, but we hope that's a win.
We do have live streamers out in front of the jail at our vigil every night.
And because of them and their viewers, Officer Lancaster is now under investigation for her treatment of these people.
So, you know, we're having small wins and it's baby steps, but we're hoping for a couple of courtroom wins soon.
I mean, I just, it's just shocking.
613 days of pretrial detention and no one's talking about it.
It's unbelievable.
All right.
That's the unbelievable part.
Well, I want to say real quick: we're having a press conference on the 15th of September from 12 to 2 outside of the Capitol at the Triangle, what they call the Triangle.
So we will be having a press conference.
We hope members of Congress will attend.
So far, Congressman Nels and Congressman Gosar will be there as well as members of the media and anybody else that wants to join.
And anybody that wants to join us outside the jail, 1901 D Street, Southeast every night, 7 to 9:30.
All right, number four, Ashley.com.
Mickey, thank you so much for joining us.
Thank you, Charlie.
Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
It is a tragedy.
I encourage everyone to read the book, Darkness at Noon, by Arthur Kessler, and you'll understand how serious political prisoners are.
Doesn't matter your own viewpoint.
It doesn't matter if you like Trump or not.
Political prisoners have no place in a free society, period.
You let them post bail, you put them through the process.
They have 613 days without ever being able to have any form of trial whatsoever.
Meanwhile, in Chicago, you kidnap somebody.
They can do whatever they want.
Political prisoners using the power of the state, using the ability to limit your movement and put you into a cell.
It's a hallmark characteristic of a Soviet-style regime, especially when there's political things involved.
But in Chicago, they have the Safety Act, as I said.
Kidnapping, second-degree murder, drug-induced homicide, threatening a public official, arson, no pretrial detention.
They don't care about having anarchy in the streets.
That's actually helpful to them to eventually be able to create a police state, but not a police state against thugs or criminals or gangbangers, a police state against political dissidents.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email me your thoughts as always.
Freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening.
God bless.
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