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Sept. 13, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Merrick Garland and the Metaphorical Waterboarding of MAGA

On what some listeners have called one of the best episodes yet of The Charlie Kirk Show, Charlie delivers a passionate rebuke of the Biden Regime's Department of Justice in light of breaking news that confirms what Steve Bannon said on this program last week—that 40 associates, allies, and supporters of President Trump have been subpoenaed, raided, and —in some cases—terrorized by the FBI over their ties to the 45th President. He walks through the latest news and lays out a path forward for the movement, how we should respond, and asks the question: why didn't any of the numerous Democrats who objected to every presidential electoral count since 2001 face the same legal pressure currently being put on conservatives in 2022? Finally, leaning on the words of George Orwell, he paints a picture of our future if we choose to give up this fight and allow the Regime to run roughshod over the American Spirit. Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Living Through A Political Purge 00:09:01
Hey everybody, today on a Charlie Kirk show, the purge, the eviction, the ousting, removal, expelling, excommunication of half the country.
You're living through the final phase.
You're living through a purge.
No one listening to this can say they've lived through a purge before in America.
Maybe in the Soviet Union.
I'm sure we have some listeners that grew up there.
You can email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.
Some of you are emailing us and saying this is one of your favorite hours we've done in quite some time.
Appreciate that.
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Buckle up, everybody.
Here we go.
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You are living through an attempted political purge.
Will we survive?
Will conservatives outlast this?
It is a uniparty purge.
It is not just the American left and Joe Biden.
It is done by the Uniparty in Washington, D.C.
It is a deliberate, calculated attempt to expunge the entire landscape of political dissidents.
Yesterday, we remembered 9-11, it being 9-12.
We remembered when the planes hit the two towers.
We talked in great detail about how what happened after 9-11 laid the groundwork of the political persecution we are living through right now.
The raids, the spying, the infiltration, the intimidation, the hundreds of billions of dollars the federal government has to go after political dissidents.
All of that was created because of our inappropriate response to 9-11.
We were in a frenzy.
We had to have the Patriot Act.
We had to invade Iraq.
We had to invade Afghanistan.
$8 trillion spent, and America is less free, less prosperous, less happy than it was 21 years ago.
Despite the sacrifice of so many people that laid their life on the line, it seems as if the bad guys got one on us.
And the bad guys in D.C. used the act of evil against America as an excuse to create this machinery.
What we didn't talk about yesterday, though, that was just a very obvious thing, is how this connected to some news that broke on our program.
Last week, we had Steve Bannon on our program, and Steve made a comment that went completely and totally viral.
It went all over the internet.
Steve Bannon said on our program, and he was mocked, by the way, by many people for saying this.
It went everywhere.
Steve Bannon said that 35 Trump officials had their homes raided.
Play Cut 58.
Steve, can you reiterate that?
You said there were 35 FBI raids yesterday.
I consider myself well-read.
I didn't see that anywhere.
Can you elaborate on that?
I've been reported.
I'm breaking that news right here.
If you go to the Washington Post story, I think Josh Dawson's story, if your staff polls a Charlie, they mentioned, I think, five names, Boris Epstein being one of them, but I think there's five people.
There were 35.
Now, what we have learned is that there were 35 subpoenas administered, not raids.
They did come to people's homes.
They were armed.
In some cases, they did take cell phone devices, but there were, and Steve was right, 35 interactions from the federal government to Trump supporters.
35.
The goal is very simple.
It's to create a one-party state, to create a country where there are no political dissidents or disagreements.
They want an entire country like California.
Yeah, you have a Republican Party that really doesn't have any chances statewide.
They're in control.
They can serve their crony donors.
They can serve their crony interests.
The Justice Department issues 40 subpoenas in a week, expanding its January 6th inquiry.
You know, I always laugh where the people say on television, it's an insurrection.
It's an insurrection.
It's an insurrection.
And then Joe Biden comes out and he says, you can't take over the government on an F-15.
So which one is it?
Was it actually an insurrection?
I thought you need an F-15 to take over your government, according to Joe Biden.
It wasn't an insurrection.
No one's been tried for insurrection.
No one has been indicted for insurrection.
It's even worse, by the way, than what Steve Bannon said on this program.
40 subpoenas in one week.
Not to mention, we have political prisoners rotting in jail in Washington, D.C. in pre-trial detention.
614 days in pre-trial detention.
Some of the people in that prison did things they should have not done at all.
Where are the criminal justice advocates on the left that are saying we need rapists and murderers and arsonists, kidnappers to not have any bail?
But no, if you're a Trump supporter, if you wear a MAGA hat, you get 614 days before you ever get a trial.
Is 40 subpoenas a lot?
Cut 56 is Peter Strzokstroke Smirk, who should be in jail, but instead smugly becomes a cable news aficionado.
He becomes a communicator, a pundit, former FBI agent who designed the illegal entrapment campaign against Donald Trump, who designed the infiltration campaign of Crossfire Hurricane.
Play Cut 56.
Make no mistake about it.
40 subpoenas is a lot of subpoenas.
Multiple search warrants for cell phones is that an even higher standard of evidentiary proof that's required to obtain that warrant?
These are significant investigative steps.
And the fact that they're people who are in direct contact with a former president really speaks to the gravity and the advanced nature of this investigation.
Look how excited it is.
He's like a little boy on Christmas because he never got charged for his crimes.
And by the way, what Peter Strzzok did is worse than what anyone is being accused of.
And the media is going to have a field day with this, but Peter Strzok abused government power.
What is Rudy Giuliani being accused of?
I don't know.
What is Victoria Tensing being accused of?
Oh, having differences of opinion.
They now have an active federal grand jury using the full power of the federal government to target and intimidate Boris Epstein, Mike Roman, Dan Scavino, Victoria Tonsing, Bernie Carrick, Jenna Ellis, Joe DeGenova.
It seems as if they also went after Sidney Powell, Stephen Miller.
We know they took John Eastman's cell phone.
We know they went after Congressman Perry's cell phone.
William Russell, they raided Mar-a-Lago.
Dan Scavino, if you are even in the remote orbit of Donald Trump, grand jury investigation, grand jury subpoena.
We're going to show up at your home with wide-ranging subpoena power and get your devices, get your emails, get your cell phone logs, get your personal communications.
And they're saying it's all around a fake electors plot.
Of course, ignoring the fact that in the 1960 election with Richard Nixon and John F. Kennedy, there were alternate electors sent.
But what about in 2016 when Democrats were trying to use alternate electors to thwart Donald Trump?
How about in many years past where there were objectors to the 2000 presidential election, Bush v. Gore, or the 2004 presidential election, Bush v. Kerry?
There have been objectors of every major election in the last 20 years.
Did they receive subpoenas?
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They want a one-party state.
And we have been talking about this for several months, that you are entering the final phase.
Many people out there, moderate political types that watch this show casually or watch maybe Fox every once in a while, this topic makes them deeply uncomfortable.
Because in order to recognize everything I'm saying right now, you must admit that you are living in a tyrannical nation.
Absent due process rights with prosecutorial oversight and abuse.
This country was largely founded on complaints of political prisoners, lack of due process.
The Constitution stands in the way.
It's the only thing we have left.
And they're using every piece of power at their disposal to expunge the one political party that still reveres the United States Constitution.
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Founding Fathers Under Force 00:05:22
There are only two ways to govern people.
You can break every type of government into two parts or two different buckets, I could say.
You can govern people by using speech.
The United States Constitution gives a preference on speech.
You got to make arguments.
You got to run for office.
You had to convince people to give their power to you.
You have to dialogue with them.
You could debate.
You could have differences of opinion.
Speech is what makes us human.
We are the speaking beings.
We are made in the image of God, and God spoke it into existence.
In the beginning was the word, and the word was God, and the word was with God.
Speech is what makes us different than the creatures and the beasts of the wild.
We could do more than just feel pleasure and pain.
We could decipher and determine between right and wrong.
What we call civil society, what we appreciate as Western civilization, is a preference, is an elevation of the higher way of governance, which is speech.
The Founding Fathers knew this.
The Founding Fathers lived under a regime of force.
They studied every government that came before them.
The Chinese Empire, the British Empire, the Indus River Valley Empire, the Egyptians, the Mesopotamians, the Byzantines.
And they saw something in common that throughout human history, whether it be the Greeks or whether it be the Dutch or whether it be the Romans, the few have a tendency to rule the many, and the many end up not ruling the few.
The Founding Fathers decided to embark on an unprecedented mission, first recognizing that everyone made in the image of God has rights given to them from that creator, not from government, not from a bureaucrat, but instead from a creator, as articulated in the Declaration of Independence, the laws of nature and nature's God.
They wanted to embark on an experiment of can people govern themselves not by using bullets, but instead by using ballots.
Can we speak through our differences?
Are we able to have disagreement and then go to a ballot box and see what the people want?
This is the first step in representative government, otherwise known as consent of the governed.
Can we separate power in three co-equal branches?
As it says in the book of Isaiah, God is the lawgiver.
God is the king.
God is the judge, executive, legislative, judicial.
Founding fathers believed only a creator or God Almighty should have all that power centralized.
Have the power separate, have checks and balances, have an independent judiciary, have rights that cannot be taken away, but instead are protected by the government.
We have lived through the longest experiment in speech-based government in human history.
And I don't mean free speech where you can go into the street and say whatever you want to say.
I mean it a little bit differently.
I mean how power is allocated.
Is it allocated through ideas and persuasion?
Or is power allocated through handcuffs and leg irons?
So you can govern through speech.
The American government is designed around speech.
Or you can govern using force.
Speech or force.
Almost every government that existed before America, with the absence of maybe Athenian democracy and a short-lived experiment in the Roman Republic, force was used.
We have the army, you do not.
We have the military, you do not.
We have the wealth.
We have the prestige.
Sit down and shut up.
You don't have rights.
There's no separation of power.
We are the power.
There's no disagreement.
We get to determine the rules of engagement.
The Constitution changed all of that.
And what we are living through right now with the intentional and the deliberate and the transparent political purge is the attempt to end a government designed on speech, debate,
dialogue, disagreement, the sharing of ideas, and instead a government that is based on whoever has control of the police, the Department of Justice, the military, the CIA, social media companies.
In order to create a one-party state, they must change the very type of government we have: one where dialogue matters to one where leg irons matter.
And they're doing it at this period of time intentionally.
Big Brother And One Party State 00:15:34
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Alexander Solshenitsyn wrote the Gulag Archipelago, one of the most important books of the 20th century.
Arthur Kessler wrote Darkness at Noon.
They all kind of danced around this idea of political prisoners and show trials.
What is a show trial?
A show trial is a fabrication of justice.
A show trial is they go through the motions as if they're putting someone on trial for the, they already know the outcome.
They never lose a show trial for all to see, to act as if they're going through the motions.
But what was the purpose of the show trial?
The purpose of the show trial was not to imprison or to be able to administer the death penalty to the subject.
The show trial is about you.
I want all of you to understand that these 40 subpoenas, the raid on Mar-a-Lago, all of it is about you.
Now you might say, oh, Charlie, come on, it's about Trump.
No, it's not.
If you read the philosophy behind a show trial, if you read the inner Soviet literature, it's about demoralization of the public.
It's about making you give up.
It's about making you less likely to donate, to knock on doors, to watch programs like this.
Why do you think they did all of this as soon as they got the 87,000 IRS agents approved?
That is no coincidence.
It is coordination.
They needed to get the 87,000 IRS agents across the finish line signed into law before they felt confident to continue their legal blitzkrieg against half the country.
The 87,000 IRS agents all of a sudden make it personal for you and it should make it personal for you.
Every single person watching this, if you're an outspoken conservative, you must admit, in fact, anticipate persecution, audits, your income, your salary, your friendships, all potentially going south.
I do not bring news of a message where I'm going to say everything's going to be wonderful and you have to do nothing.
That is not true.
For the last 10 years, we've had that viewpoint.
Oh, I can just allow Trump to go fight for me.
It's not about Trump.
It's about you.
It's about your values.
You're the threat to the regime.
And so what they simultaneously wanted to do is 87,000 new IRS agents, we raid Mar-a-Lago, 40 subpoenas, shock and awe, stay at home, MAGA.
Indict Steve Bannon in New York, raid James O'Keefe's apartment, take Scott Perry's cell phone, take John Eastman's cell phone, full-fledged invasion, non-stop campaign.
Is it working?
Do you plan to give up?
We got one email here from Kathy.
Charlie, this terrifies me.
I'm going to stop donating to Republican candidates.
I'll watch your show, but I'm going to delete the search browser history.
I don't want anything to happen to me.
That's an email we got freedom at charliekirk.com.
This, this, what we're about to engage in is not for the faint of heart.
They're intentionally doing this.
It's deliberate.
And yes, you are living through the final phase.
The campaign, the psychological operation they're running is to make you put your hands up and say, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done.
I'm curious, is it working for any of you?
Or is it having the opposite effect?
Because it certainly does for me.
But we're wired differently here at Turning Point.
We're wired differently here at the Charlie Kirk show.
It makes me want to fight harder.
I'm pushing our team.
More events, more podcasts.
Turning point USA on our educational side, more chapters, more high school kids, more college kids.
On Turning Point Action, we need to expand more.
We need to fight the left on their own terms.
So is it working?
Because the show trial, what you're seeing is not about Boris Epstein.
It's not about Victoria Thonson.
It's not even about Trump.
It's about the broader movement to have you give up and be demoralized.
Cut 57, Wolf Blitzer, a one-minute clip on the 40 subpoenas that were administered, play cut 57.
30 people in Trump's orbit have been subpoenaed by the Justice Department in recent days.
Just how much of an escalation does this represent in this overall investigation?
A big one, Wolf.
Well, now we know what Steve Bannon was referring to when he said publicly that there were 35 MAGA leaders who had their home raided.
We couldn't figure out what he meant because that would have been out in the public and we didn't see that.
Well, what he did was confuse search warrants with subpoenas.
But still, subpoenas are a big deal.
And the timing is not a coincidence.
As Sarah said, this comes right before the 60-day quiet period before the midterm elections when DOJ tries not to influence an election.
That's why this all came all at once.
But the fact that Bannon and other MAGA leaders seem shocked that this happened shows to me that Merritt Garland has lulled many in Trump world into a false sense of security.
This is the kind of slow build that Attorney General Garland has been known for in his prosecutorial career.
It's like that boiling frog that doesn't realize the temperature has been turned up until it's too late.
Yeah, it actually hasn't been a slow build if you listen to the Charlie Kirk show.
We've been warning people that this was going to happen as early as February of last year.
It just so happens we were called conspiracy theorists, we were called alarmists, but now there's 40 subpoenas, raids of political dissidents.
And people say, wow, where did this come from?
You see, I've been fighting the left for a decade, not as long as many of you, but it's been a pretty intense, let's say, deployment against the sinister forces.
You learn a lot.
You learn a lot also.
And I will say this: I talk about this in my book, The College Scam.
If you learn how to be able to combat a college leftist, you learn almost everything you need to know about how these people operate.
Connor could tell you all about that.
He could write a book on that.
We are 29 days out from mail-in ballots hitting people's homes.
29 days till ballots go out.
29 days.
This is direct election interference.
We are 56 days out from an election.
They're intentionally involving themselves into an election for the purpose of trying to complete a Marxist takeover of the country.
But again, it's in order for them to be successful.
It's not just about the individuals that they're targeting.
It's about the comprehensive movement giving up, breaking our resolve.
What they are doing right now is metaphorically waterboarding MAGA.
They want you to tap out.
They want you to give up.
Nothing else has worked.
COVID, lockdowns, vaccines, monkeypox, Roe v. Wade, Ukraine.
They want you to be compliant to the regime.
Remember, Machiavelli is their North Star.
If you want a great picture of what they want to create you into, turn you into, read nothing more than the last three pages of 1984, just the last three pages.
Very powerful.
So I'm going to do a little spoiler alert.
If you haven't read 1984 at this point, please read 1984.
Read 1984, read Brave New World, read Abolition of Man, and Darkness at Noon.
Those four books, you'll have a very good idea of what's going on right now.
What do they want?
The last three pages of 1984, the first time you read it, it sends chills through your body.
So beautifully written by Orwell.
The protagonist, Winston, goes through an entire process of defecting against the regime, getting into a romantic relationship, then getting arrested and interrogated by O'Brien for quite some time.
And the interrogation and the torture, outright torture, is so much that it wasn't enough to get Winston to admit that he did something wrong.
It wasn't enough to admit that something that was not true is true.
Two plus two equals five.
No, no, no, no.
They needed to turn Winston and break his will, where the final scene of 1984 is Winston sitting in a bar getting deliriously drunk on some form of a vodka equivalent or spin-off.
And the image of Big Brother shines prominently on the wall.
Big Brother, of course, being the government, the one that sees all the idea of the Leviathan.
You could think of it as Merrick Garland or the CIA or the FBI.
And Big Brother, as articulated by Winston, was a villain throughout the entire book.
He was running from Big Brother Brother.
He's always watching me.
But in the final scene, Winston stands up and starts crying in salute and reverence to Big Brother.
What Orwell articulated was the goal of the regime.
It wasn't enough to get Winston, the protagonist of 1984, not to care.
They want you to give in.
They want you to salute Big Brother.
He gazed up at the enormous face.
40 years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden behind the dark mustache.
Oh, cruel, needless misunderstanding, talking about Big Brother.
Oh, stubborn, self-wild exile from the loving breast.
The two gin-scented tears trickled down the side of his nose.
But it was all right.
Everything was all right.
The struggle was finished.
He had won the victory over himself.
And then, in one final phrase, Orwell delivers one of the most heartbreaking lines in all of literature.
He loved Big Brother.
What is their goal?
What do they want?
They want to break your will, use you like clay, crush you, and have you see on the wall as the gin goes down your face and say, I love Joe Biden.
I love Merrick Garland.
Orwell was right.
Molly emailed us: My husband and I will not back down.
We have discussed how it will change our lives.
We want to fight harder.
We will make a difference.
We won't give in.
As Churchill once said, we'll never, never, never give up.
We'll see you at the Great Reset event this weekend.
Awesome, Molly.
Together we will prevail.
Our country was founded upon divine providence and God's grace.
God bless you.
That's exactly right.
Chris said, We will never quit the fight.
Stand as one.
America against the communists.
Well said.
Victoria, never stop.
I'm so worried about the children.
The parents must teach them the Constitution Bill of Rights and every word that matters.
My fear is that they will not have a free future.
We must all stop and never give up.
If you guys are focused on teaching the next generation about the Constitution, I got to say the work that our team is doing at Turning Point USA is spectacular.
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Victoria, I share that concern.
We're going about fixing it.
Will I give up?
There's some swear words in this.
Let me just say no by this guy, Scott, who emailed us.
Freedom at charliekirk.com.
One of these here.
Charlie, I'm scared.
I am no longer going to give any donations, but I support you 100%.
I just don't want to get audited.
Okay.
Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
Don't stop believing, everybody.
The purge is there to break your will.
They did it right when they approved the 87,000 IRS agents to evict, to oust, to remove, to expel, to excommunicate people that might stand against the party, the state, the regime, big brother.
Now, of course, they're going after Trump supporters for allegedly objecting to electors.
In 2005, Nancy Pelosi said, that sort of work is democracy at work.
Play Cut 65.
Mr. Speaker, today we are witnessing democracy at work.
This isn't, as some of our Republican colleagues have referred to it, sadly, as frivolous.
This debate is fundamental to our democracy.
Fundamental.
What is she talking about?
Barbara Boxer objecting to the election.
Remember, Cut 64?
One minute of Democrats objecting to the 2016 election.
Did they get subpoenas, raids, their homes looked into?
Was there a special committee going after these Democrats?
It is the exact same thing.
Play Cut 64.
Mr. Debate, I wish to ask: is there one United States senator who will join me in this letter?
There's no debate.
There's no debate.
The gentleman will suspend the chair.
The chair has previously ruled.
A signature from a senator is required.
Objection cannot be received.
Restore A Free Society 00:03:35
Mr. Clark.
I object to the votes from the state of Wisconsin, which should not be legally signed.
Mr. President, I object to the certificate from the state of Georgia on the grounds that the electoral vote is.
No debate.
There's no debate.
I object to the certificate from the state of North Carolina.
I object to the 15 votes from the state of North Carolina.
I object.
I object to the certificate from the state of Alabama.
The electors were not lawfully certified.
Is it signed by a senator?
Not as of yes, Mr. President.
In that case, the objection cannot be entertained.
One after the other after the other.
But it's not about that.
All these people still hold office.
They didn't have their offices raided.
Now, I just want to float this out there for our friends that are watching this, whomever it might be, media matters, Democrat operatives, people that have FISA court authority abilities.
Remember, Andrew Cuomo?
Don't be so confident they're not going to come after you.
Oh, yeah, they're going to come after us.
We know that.
We're ready.
Bring it on.
All of you are ready.
Not all of you.
Some of you are saying you're going to give up.
That's fine.
But most of you are saying freedom at charliekirk.com.
This is the fight for liberty, fight for our kids, fight for our nation.
Peaceful, of course, but buckle up.
But I want to introduce a little bit of a pathogen of paranoia into the minds of the Democrats, into even the FBI.
Who's to say they won't come after you?
Is Andrew Cuomo still governor?
How about Jesse Jackson Jr.?
How's Andrew Gillam doing?
If you think you're safe, you're not.
They will never stop.
They will go after their own.
They'll go after you.
No, your only hope, the potential whistleblower out there, the potential person that knows that this is wrong, your only hope is help us restore a free society.
Or you could participate in this political purge and expunge the landscape, put everyone in prison, handcuffs everywhere, and have a champagne and caviar party.
But guess what?
Then they'll look at the next non-believer because then jealousy and greed and avarice and gluttony will set in and they might show up at your doorstep.
I am imploring for any person out there that has political power, any person in law enforcement, any person out there that knows that this is wrong, do something about it.
That's definitely not me.
We're on the other side of it.
We're talking about it every single day, but it's not too late.
And for the rest of you out there, what a beautiful time to be alive.
Would you rather be alive in the 80s and 90s where we're talking about tax rates?
Come on, we got the regime on the ropes.
They're desperate.
They're paranoid.
They think they can get you to give up because of 40 subpoenas and indicting ban and all that.
Our country is much tougher than that.
America has withstood a lot more, and many of you were raised by a generation that gave everything.
Bring it.
The will of the American people will not be broken anytime soon.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email me your thoughts as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thanks so much for listening.
God bless.
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