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April 30, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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'This Is Messed Up' — Biden Regime Tackles MiSiNfOrMaTiOn

The DHS's new Disinformation Governance Board's czar of misinformation, Nina Jankowicz makes a mockery of misinformation as dozens of newly resurfaced clips of hers spread across the internet. Charlie traces her ideological footprint on the internet which paints a striking image of the left's ideal progressive, college educated elite who will use government authority to clamp down on speech the regime doesn't like. Then Charlie welcomes senior editor of Human Events, Jack Posobiec, to break it all down. What is the new governance board's reason for being? Was this a direct response to Elon Musk's purchasing of Twitter? How would the board actually enforce what it deems to be misinformation? How will social media companies be controlled through the 33-year-old, radical left-winger Jankowicz? Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Ministry of Truth 00:02:00
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We certainly weren't the first show, but we were definitely part of kind of this amplification of calling Joe Biden's new DHS disinformation board the Ministry of Truth.
If you just type in Ministry of Truth to Google, I mean, there's like an article every five minutes.
It is uniform messaging.
I have to say, this has been one of the most surprising messaging wins for a conservative movement that I've seen in recent memory.
You type in Ministry of Truth, it's one after the other after the other.
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Joe Biden's disinformation board, likened to Orwell's Ministry of Truth, Fox News, Critics Slam, Biden's Ministry of Truth.
One after the other, again, we didn't, I saw it somewhere, people were saying it, but it's kind of become this consolidated messaging, and it's totally true.
So what is it?
Well, on Wednesday, right after Elon Musk has purchased Twitter, the Biden administration, Department of Homeland Security, announced the creation of a disinformation governance board.
And what they say is to counter the spread of misinformation related to Homeland Security.
Now, of course, what they mean is ideas they don't like, ideas that don't fit the orthodoxy.
Elon Musk has tweeted in response to this, saying, quote, this is messed up.
And so in response to Elon Musk taking over Twitter, you now have Biden putting together this disinformation board.
Okay.
So the disinformation board has law enforcement capabilities.
These are people that can arrest.
They can get subpoenas.
They can surveil.
This is not some sort of board at a think tank.
These are people with badges.
These are the people with guns.
Now, to give you an idea of how serious they are about censoring and monitoring political speech, this is all kind of surrounding the idea of social media interactions.
Instead of actually having a free and open internet where the best ideas can win, and of course there will be people that spread false things, but more speech remedies the false speech, which is the way the internet was in 16 and 17, and it was awesome.
And we were able to spread good ideas and challenge bad ones and be able to interact directly with people that were part of the kind of instrumentation of the propaganda channels on the top levels of our society.
No, instead, we've had just this mass crackdown of any sort of dissenting ideas.
But now Biden puts forward this Ministry of Truth, which is an Orwellian term.
We went into that yesterday, in a direct response to Elon buying Twitter.
So, just 48 hours after Elon buys Twitter, this pops up.
Do you think for a second that the Democrat Party wouldn't have let have you for your free speech back without putting up a fight?
We knew that.
Now, the person running this entire operation is a woman by the name of Nina Jankowicz.
Now, Nina Jankowicz is 33 years old.
I obviously have nothing against her age.
I'm five years younger than her.
But I look at her and I look at her videos and I feel like I know her.
I feel like I know her because I grew up with people like her in the same sort of age demographic that approach life in a very similar fashion.
So, we're going to play some of her videos, both that are like horrifying and hilarious, not hilarious because they're meant to be, but because she's a total fool and she's a buffoon.
But she kind of has a very sarcastic, ironic, and snarky approach to life.
She's kind of a self-described Harry Potter nerd.
And, you know, you kind of the way she communicates, I say, wow, I know exactly kind of the type of person that she is.
Everything is kind of like a snough, soft joke.
And there's kind of a smugness, there's an attitude.
There's kind of like a, there might not be anything that's true, but I might as well make fun of it.
Now, I can't remember the philosopher who said this, but we'll look it up and we'll find out, which is that irony, the fixation on irony is the only way that the unhappy are able to make sense of the world.
You think about it, what is irony?
Irony is the identification of things that don't fit, right?
Irony is the inability for things like you could go through one thing after the other.
An ironic thing would be Joe Biden lecturing you about being spry and young, right?
Like that would be ironic, okay?
And so the unhappy and the people that do not have their soul at peace, they fixate relentlessly on the things that don't make sense.
Ironic is the only thing that can make sense to the people that do not find beauty and truth in the world or things worth fighting for.
And so enter front and center this woman by the name of Nina Jankowitz, who is the smug kind of hairy, self-described Harry Potter nerd, the snarky person who finds whatever, like I wouldn't be talking about her except for the fact she has a badge now.
She can arrest people.
She's the head of this entire board of the federal government of the United States.
So it's no longer a joke.
So what is, let's go watch this one.
This is cut 111.
This is Nina Jankowicz singing about censorship to the tune of super fragilized, super frag, super fragile, super catalyfragilistic espiologists.
Okay, I said it.
Cut 111.
Information laundering is really quite ferocious.
It's when a huckster takes some lies and makes them sound precocious by saying them in Congress or on mainstream outcome.
So disinformation's origins are slightly less atrocious.
Yeah, I mean, it goes on from there.
This person now is in control of your speech online.
I mean, it would be funny if she was this, I don't know, like a 21-year-old at Brown like makes a video like that.
Okay, whatever, sure.
But now she has power.
Okay.
It continues.
Here's Nina Jankowitz, Cut 88, floating the idea of a color revolution is a good thing.
Play Cut 88.
Putin's narratives intentionally rob protesters of agency.
They discount the grievances that brought them to the streets, risking their lives, and ultimately they undermine the resulting governments.
And now we're seeing the same narrative cropping up here in the United States.
So, in short, color revolutions aren't dirty.
They're expressions of democratic will, and they should inspire us all.
Yeah, I mean, a CIA operation tried to displace a sovereignly elected Democrat leader.
That's a beautiful thing.
We need to embrace the inner displacement of the shah.
Color revolutions are something that we in the deep state of our government love.
Now, let's be very honest.
Why is it that this buffoon and Nina Jankowicz is in charge of the disinformation board?
Answer.
She's loyal to them.
The answer is: you distill everything else beside the point is that she'll do what she's told.
That's why.
I mean, who else would do a video like that saying, you know, color revolutions actually are a beautiful thing?
Woo!
Cut 112, Nina Jankowicz, who's now the head.
She's not like some random board member.
It's a 33-year-old, like smug, snarky person.
She has a badge.
I guarantee you, I'm on her list now.
And by the way, people like her hate people like me.
Hate play cut 112.
Not a champion of justice and reform in Ukraine.
And number three, as a result, the vice president delivered a message that Shokin needed to be fired and other reforms pursued if Ukraine wanted its next tranche of IMF funds and a U.S. loan guarantee.
This is called diplomacy, not extortion.
That's it.
Now you can get back to your Netflix and your Zoom happy hours and lots and lots of washing your hands.
She has a band.
Cut 92.
This is the Ministry of Truth banned.
This is the person now in charge of your disinformation governance board who could put you in prison if you commit a thought crime.
Play cut 92.
My job is change the complaint.
I have no need for human rights.
Remotely taking on each member.
Call your reps and join the violence where people try and violence.
I mean, this would be so funny if she didn't have the ability to put me in prison.
It's like, it's like central casting for like the millennial censor.
It's like the whole thing's a major cope.
She's there.
She's doing the whole like Saturday night live routine.
It's like, no, this is actually very real.
She was named executive director of the Disinformation Governance Board of the federal government of the United States, the Department of Homeland Security.
By the way, it's not like the Department of State or the Department of Defense.
They believe the true threat is within the country.
Advised the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, of course she did.
As a part of the Fulbright Public Policy Fellowship, oversaw Russia and Belarus programs, National Democrat Institute, wrote the book, How to Lose the Information War, Russia Fake News in the Future of Conflict.
Okay.
And why does it have to be DHS?
Why do you think that the biggest threat is within?
Huh.
It's because she's loyal and she's a deeply unhappy, smug, snarky person who just wants to be relevant and wants to be able to send to her fellow millennial friends who are childless and sexless and really angry that she's done something with her life, typical type demographic of an early 30-something Ivy League Georgetown graduate.
Nina Jankowicz is the head of the disinformation board at the Department of Homeland Security.
It's hard to even believe.
You know, some people say, Charlie, you can't call the Biden team the regime.
Oh, well, they just launched a Ministry of Truth.
Play Cut 113.
This is Nina Jankowicz saying, it's plain to see that the evil inside of me is on the right.
I think she's singing or something.
This is the clown that we have running our government.
Play cut 113.
Any dolphin can see that humankind has gone insane to the point where I don't know if I'll upset the status quo if I'm poison in the water main.
Our world's filled with filth and lies.
And it's plain to see evil inside of me is on the rise.
So if she doesn't like your singing, will she put you in prison?
Like these are very honest questions.
Again, she said, evil inside of me is on the rise.
It was kind of the melody she kept on repeating.
Principal Deputy General Counsel, Jennifer Gaskell, on how misinformation is a major threat to our homeland.
What do they consider to be misinformation?
Can I ask questions about the vaccine?
How about ivermectin hydroxychloroquine?
Am I able to ask questions about Hunter Biden's laptop?
Or is that now going to be criminal in nature?
Play cut 90.
Another huge threat to our homeland is miss and disinformation.
A newer trend that we saw in the 2020 election and already in the 2022 midterms is that disinformation is being heavily targeted at Spanish-speaking voters, sparking and fueling conspiracy theories.
DHS and its components play a big role in addressing myths and disinformation in Spanish and other languages.
Can you share what steps you've taken and what future plans you have to address Spanish language miss and disinformation through department-wide approach?
Yeah, those Hispanic voters, they think there's only two genders.
What are you doing to make sure that Hispanic people believe men can become pregnant?
Can you please explain to us in great detail why Hispanic voters believe that men and women have biological differences?
Please tell us why Hispanic voters believe that the border matters.
How dare they believe it must be QAnon?
In fact, I'm positive it is.
You know what this really is by this?
Who is this woman who's talking?
General Gaskell.
She's basically saying, listen, Hispanic voters are so stupid, they don't really know what they're doing.
So please tell us how you're censoring things so the dumb Hispanic people aren't able to feel because they're just so gullible.
Remember, we have to talk slowly around Hispanic people because they're new here.
That's basically the essence of her question.
Like the misinformation, disinformation.
No, this is what's really happening, Jennifer Gaskell.
You're starting to see your poll numbers go down in the Hispanic community, and all of a sudden your mass migration plans is now being put in jeopardy.
And Nicaraguans and El Salvadorians and Guatemalans and Mexicans are becoming radical Republicans in record numbers.
And the only thing that Jennifer Gaskell and the Democrats can blame is it must be misinformation.
It must be that QAnon thing again.
No, actually, Hispanics, they look at like, for example, they'll see the Netflix document that says he's expecting and they'll say, that's loco.
I don't believe, whoever's behind that, not a fan.
But no, Jennifer Gaskell wants to have an entire regime of censorship, an entire administration around shutting people up because they're starting to lose their voters.
Must be misinformation.
It's the only way that could, how could, how could these Hispanics possibly believe such a thing as America's a good country?
I mean, come on.
They must be manipulated.
In fact, it must be foreign disinformation.
This is the new frontier, everybody.
They are going to call ideas and speakers like this program disinformation.
Brookings institution is already doing that.
Brookings is coming out trying to censor our podcast because our podcast is so successful, because we dared ask questions about Ukraine.
Like you're not allowed to do that.
The Ministry of Truth is marching into the most important issue in America.
Can you speak freely?
Ron DeSantis talked about this, Play Cut 101.
But clearly, our entire principles of the country was founded on, you cannot have a ministry of truth in this country.
And so let's get real here.
Let's make sure that we're doing things to benefit Floridians and Americans, but we're not going to let Biden get away with this one.
So we'll be fighting back.
God bless you, Ron DeSantis.
That's the right approach.
States standing up against the federal government.
The federal government's going to create a ministry of truth.
And every Republican governor needs to draw a line in the sand and say this is not going to happen.
Why is Ron DeSantis the only Republican that said this?
Well, that seems to be a theme of this program.
Ron does the right thing, and most Republicans don't.
With us is Jack Pisovic from Turning Point USA's Human Events Daily or Human Events Daily with Turning Point USA.
Anyway, it's Jack Pisovic.
Jack, welcome back to the program.
Charlie, always a pleasure, my friend.
So, Nina, how do you pronounce her last name, Jack?
Well, in Polish, it should be Jankovich.
All right, Nina.
So, tell us about Nina, and she's in charge of the Ministry of Truth.
What does this mean?
Is this, I mean, I kind of feel as if this is kind of a joke on the American people.
How serious is this, actually?
SpaceX Agenda Revealed 00:11:31
So, we've yet to really find out what's going on here.
It's very interesting to me, though, that the media has completely been uninterested to determine what exactly is going on with this Department of Homeland Security disinformation governance board.
And I can assure you that if Donald J. Trump was setting up some kind of, you know, fake news applicator, we're going to censor things on the internet kind of board.
I have to imagine that Maggie Haberman and the Washington Post and the rest would be all over it.
But with this one, Daniel Lippmann over at Politico for the playbook, he doesn't usually write for playbook, drops it in there.
It's pretty obvious that Nina actually leaked this herself, I think, because then she goes all over Twitter and is like, well, the cat's out of the bag, guys.
Let me just post my official portrait and everything else that's going on with this.
So, what we know, though, from this political report and really just Nina Jankovich's own tweets is that this is a board that's being set up.
And then they asked Secretary Mayorkis about it.
They asked Jensaki about it for some more information.
We're not getting a lot of details, though, that will be used to stop Jensaki's words to stop the flow of disinformation throughout the country.
That's what we're told.
And so, Charlie, what you're looking at, though, from my assessment, this is think of the fact-checking that goes out there, right?
The fact-checking on Facebook, on Instagram.
We know they're all fake fact checks, right?
But this is what they used to stop or slow the posts.
Now, what they're doing is they're creating an actual government board that is more than likely going to be sending out guidance the same way the CDC used to, right?
Send out the guidance.
They're not called orders.
They're not called directives anymore.
They're going to be guidance.
And then the fact checkers will take that guidance or directly with the social media companies.
So it's like Elon Musk comes in, announces he's purchasing Twitter.
And before the end of the week, we have a Ministry of Truth established.
So yeah, let's talk.
You and I haven't talked about the Elon thing on air.
We've talked about this privately.
Do you think these things are connected?
Do you think that this is part of the empire striking back?
Like, okay, Elon, you buy Twitter, then you're going to have to deal with Nina?
No, I don't necessarily think it's connected.
I think this is something if you go to her LinkedIn page and her Twitter, she's actually been talking about this for several months.
And I think everyone can agree that Elon's thing really was more spur of the moment than anything else.
And so this is something that the Biden administration, the regime has been working on for a long time, Charlie.
This has been their agenda to essentially tell the public.
Imagine going back six years, even five years, and saying that you're going to have a government agency determining what can and can't be said on the internet.
We already saw this.
We experienced this through COVID.
And at the height of it, you couldn't say certain things about masks.
You still can't say certain things about vaccines or your speech will be throttled or your entire social media account, your presence online will be destroyed.
All right.
This is what they're doing now.
They're cutting out the middleman, essentially, and they're putting instead the middle woman, Nini Yankovich.
So what do you make of the Elon thing?
Reaction has been hysterical, obviously.
Most conservatives are greeting this with great enthusiasm and optimism, I being one of them.
What do you make of it?
Well, I think it's great.
I love, you know, when you have this Deus Ex Machina kind of like swings in from the rafters to kind of save the whole thing, I don't think it really changes the overall picture in terms of this.
You know, it might be a stopgap for a while to have someone who actually is a free speech absolutist in control of what is essentially now the public square.
But at the same time, you're still going to have issues at Facebook.
You're going to have issues at Google, Wikipedia, all these other places.
That's why I would support, in general, Congress coming in and essentially declaring that these things are utilities and putting some regulations on it.
But I mean, do you think that changes, though, now that Elon owns Twitter?
Do we want that?
I mean, would an idea of like a holistic competitor potentially be more helpful than additional government regulation?
I'm just thinking out loud, right?
I mean, Elon with his drive, I mean, he could potentially add a Instagram feature to Twitter.
He could add a video feature.
I mean, really, it is an endless platform if you think about it, right?
But are we more worried about the other ones than we are about the benefit of a competitor?
I think it's temporary.
I think that's really my only point is whatever Elon does is only going to be temporary.
And at the same time, one thing that I am bullish on, and Jack Dorsey talked about this back in 2019, Elon Musk is talking about it a little bit more now is this idea of making Twitter into an open source protocol, right?
So the idea being, you know, let's say you've got Verizon or you've got T-Mobile, you've got Patriot Mobile, of course, but you can still communicate with each other across these different services because they use the same protocols, the same way an Android can text message to an iPhone.
You get the green and not the blue, et cetera, et cetera.
But the idea is if you can tweet, let's say you can post a message to Twitter, but then I can read that on Getter.
I can read that on TrueSocial.
I could read that on a different platform.
You're opening up the sandbox that way.
And that is something that Elon has talked about.
Yeah.
And so how else is the regime going to strike back against him?
What is the empire going to do?
Do you think Elon has thought that through?
Is there something to the argument that the government needs Elon more than Elon needs the government with his SpaceX and trying to compete in space against Russia and China?
Or do you think Elon just has done this impulsively and really doesn't care about what's going to come next?
I actually have some background on this that I can't get too into.
But this Elon, it may seem that he's doing this at spur of the moment.
This has been a strategy of his.
This is something that he's actually been working up to for a while.
He's had cryptic tweets about buying Twitter going all the way back to 2017.
But in the last couple months, really looking at Twitter's valuation, especially looking at how Twitter had dropped really halved from its high of 70 to about 35 in terms of stock price, he huddled with his team, looked at this and said, you know what?
I think it's time to come in here and make a play.
Yeah, but do you think that he's thought through the potential like ramifications, what this means for his businesses?
I mean, 100%.
He has.
Okay.
So how is he, how is he going to endure that?
Or do you think he values free speech more than the potential cost this could mean for him and his businesses?
He's making a huge chess move right here, but Elon has always been a chess player.
And I think he's doing it in such a way where he's being strategic.
So you saw he just sold off about $4 billion in terms of Tesla before, because we know this, right?
We know a lot of Elon's money, a lot of his net worth, right?
Everyone's richest man in the world.
Okay, but it's on paper, right?
If that's tied up in your Tesla stock because he owns 20% of it, then that only becomes liquid when you actually sell some of the stock, which of course, then in turn, is going to obviously affect the price of the stock thereof.
So he's doing that.
He's starting to make these steps incrementally.
And I'm watching very closely on this.
And actually, we've got for Human Events Daily today, we're doing a huge deep dive on what some of the investor community is saying about this.
We're talking about how some people think that he might even take a move.
And this is something that Bannon got, you know, he came out very publicly and said, Elon should just drop the bid.
Elon should drop the bid right now.
The spread is getting too big.
Pull it out.
Let the stock collapse.
See the C-suite get completely fired, wiped out, erased by the board, then come back in at, you know, 50%.
But do you think that's likely?
I mean, that would open the opportunity for another person to come in and scoop up.
And that's exactly what my response was.
So I said, look, you know, we're in a game of brinkmanship here.
We're in a very dangerous period.
But at the same point, I think the regime does understand that the true value of Twitter isn't a $100 trillion company.
Right.
It's the information warfare pipeline for the entire administration, for the entire regime.
So whether or not it continues to exist as it currently does as a left-wing censorship and bias distribution platform of information warfare, I call it, you know, since 2016, I call it the Tumblr occupation of Twitter for people out there who knows what who know what Tumblr is, because, you know, they used to kind of stick to their corner of the internet, but then somehow they took over Twitter, the company.
And Dorsey said that as well.
He said, I think Twitter is a great idea, but Twitter, the company, is not a bad idea, or excuse me, not a good idea.
Yeah, I mean, it's become a cesspool.
And so, you know, Elon's calculation here, he loves taking risk, but he's not without cards, right?
So they could subpoena him and investigate him.
It seems as if he knows he has cards too, or basically he could turn in and say, okay, so how are exactly you going to get to the international space station?
Right.
Because prior to, you know, Space Act really been up there, what were we doing?
We were using Russia, right?
Russia was a big payload carrier for us, their platform out of Kazakhstan.
Obviously, that's not going to be happening anytime soon.
So guess what?
Elon's timing, I guarantee.
And this is something that actually had been a question of mine.
I went and asked some people, came back.
They said he knows exactly what he's doing.
He's thought this all out.
He saw this opportunity.
It also came up because remember, Starlink was something in kind of the early days of the Ukraine-Russia war.
The government of Ukraine reached out.
They said, hey, can we use Starlink?
That may have actually been something that got his gears turning on this and saying, hey, you know, because the space industry, and we know, you know, it's a multi-billion dollar industry, but it's actually kind of small because there's only so many platforms that can actually field assets into space, right?
There's not a lot of players.
So when you took a major one of those off the board, that suddenly made the value of SpaceX completely shoot up.
And yeah, and so, I mean, you just look at Starlink, for example, no other company's in that space.
I mean, there's no one.
And he's been clairvoyant and just entrepreneurial into going into it.
But then you also have Tesla, you have the boring company.
I mean, he has a portfolio of these companies now.
And so I would guess that if I were the people in charge, I would try to decouple Elon from these companies.
The companies are necessary.
They're going to try to make it seem like, well, can we have somebody else run SpaceX?
You know what I mean?
Like, so that's where I think they're going to try to make their targeted, their, their attacks more on Elon than the companies themselves, because the way Elon has built this, and I think it's been intentional very quietly and steadily for years, kind of being the kind of, you know, very, you know, abstract Tony Stark who might, you know, smoke weed with Joe Rogan and send a tweet that he might regret about Saudi Arabia buying Tesla going private or something with these kind of one-off things is that he was definitely not a threat, right?
Elon was not a threat.
You saw the same thing.
If you go back and look at the railroads in this country, you look at the oil pipelines and the oil fields.
This is the exact same thing the government did again and again to the people that initially went into those spaces and became the major competitor.
There's a whole, you know, I'm not a big, you know, Atlas drug person, but there is a whole book about this.
The philosophy of Ayn Rand is to be debated, and I would certainly agree with you on that.
However, who is John Galt or who is Elon Musk?
Energy Permits and Growth 00:03:58
Actually be the more appropriate question.
And so, Jack, heading into the midterms and kind of right around the corner, what tricks up the sleeve do you think the Democrats have that we should be on the lookout for?
You know, it's really amazing when I look at some of this stuff, but obviously canceling student debt is going to be a huge issue for them, something they're really trying to change the narrative of kind of everything that's been going on, but they're also trying to cancel menthol cigarettes.
And I don't think that's a good narrative for the Biden administration going into going into these midterms.
But when you really look across the landscape, whether it be national security, which is an abysmal failure from the war in Europe to the complete collapse of Afghanistan, then you've also got an economy now where we are one quarter away.
We are one quarter away from a recession.
So a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative growth.
We have just put up one, one which, by the way, is so amazing to me, MSNBC and even CNBC, they're all saying this, unexpected, unexpected negative growth.
Look, not only that, but you've got gas prices up around this country at a sustained rate that Americans haven't seen really since I think 2008 or so, right?
These are the highest gas prices in a long time.
And yet you don't hear anything, anything from the administration about, okay, we're going to be pulling up on these regulations.
We're going to be getting it.
Oh, by the way, let me break that down real quick because you always hear Jen Saki saying, oh, well, they have the permits.
They have the permits.
They have the permits, right?
You have 9,000 permits and they just won't drill.
No, no, no.
You don't just need a permit to start drilling in the United States.
You just don't need a lease.
No, You got to go through your surveys and you got to go through your approvals.
And then you have to talk to an organization known as the EPA.
And then, of course, you're going to get sued.
You're going to get sued by every green group under the sun, right?
So what the administration should be doing, by the way, and if you care about, you know, fighting Russia, weakening Russia, if you're someone that really wants to do that, which by the way, obviously we would like peace and a ceasefire to go in place and try to figure out what's going on, stop the killing, right?
You'd want American energy flowing as much as possible.
You'd want as much gas and oil flowing as possible.
That's the way you lower the price of oil.
Because remember, McCain and all these people, Kinziger used to always say this, right?
Well, Russia, they're just a gas station with nukes, a gas station with nukes.
Well, it turns out that gas and nukes are actually kind of important, right?
You know, because we need gas and, you know, we're not exactly immune to nuclear warfare.
And so the idea being is not only would it help with that effort right there from a geostrategic perspective, but it would really, really help here back at home.
Because obviously, I would hope that there's somebody in the White House, maybe Brian Dees can go ask his buddies over at BlackRock where he just came from about how this works.
But if you want to increase growth in the United States economically, then a huge factor impacting millions of Americans around the country is going to be the sticker tape on that price of gas.
Because if gas is that much, then your base commuting goes up, then your price of goods goes up, your price of your groceries goes up, all of it goes up.
Your gas price, your fuel is going to be your number one expense as a household in terms of that.
And so not only, of course, sure, winter's done, but now it's starting to warm up.
It's starting to heat up.
You know, Charlie, you're out there in Phoenix, right?
I know you guys have those air conditioners kicking.
You need it, right?
You need it.
And so that's the situation that we're going to be going in.
These energy prices go up, people are going to start rationing.
And when they're doing that, the American people start to think, they go, you know what?
I remember these Jimmy Carter stuff, this Jimmy Carter stuff.
I remember only being able to go and get gas on certain days of the week based on your license plate, having an odd number, an even number.
They don't want to be told that they have to shut down their consumption.
They want to be told that they can live normal and happy lives.
So keep in mind, though, the administration is in free fall.
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They're in total collapse.
And that's why you've got Nini Yankovich up there heading the Ministry of Truth because they can't have things like Elon Musk, who just tweeted earlier today.
The Democrat Party has been taken over by the extremists.
It's well said.
Jack Pasobic from Human Events Daily with Turning Point USA.
Jack, great commentary.
I'll have you back again on soon.
Thank you.
Thanks, Charlie.
Thank you, Jack.
Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
Email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.
Thank you so much for listening.
God bless.
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