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Women's Struggles in America
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| Hey, everybody. | |
| Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, it's an Ask Me Anything episode. | |
| Happy Monday, but it's a little bit different. | |
| It's our conversation with Alex Clark, and we take questions. | |
| What do men need to do differently in America? | |
| What do women need to do differently? | |
| Young women in particular. | |
| What are the problems that they're facing when it comes to dating and relationships? | |
| Very important questions. | |
| Also, we dive deep into a former leftist that Alex had on her program. | |
| And most importantly, we talk about our Young Women's Leadership Summit coming up in early June. | |
| If you are a young woman or a woman in general, we believe in differences between men and women. | |
| You guys should show up. | |
| It's amazing tpusa.com/slash ywls. | |
| That's tpusa.com/slash ywls. | |
| It's going to be a phenomenal event. | |
| Registered today, tpusa.com/slash ywls. | |
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| Here we go. | |
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| She has a lot of talent. | |
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| Two years you've been with us now? | |
| Two and a half. | |
| Wow. | |
| It's going to be three years this summer. | |
| For two and a half years, we've had pink everywhere. | |
| Changed your life. | |
| You did not know. | |
| Alex Clark goes, it's like a chemtrail of pink. | |
| Yes. | |
| You can't avoid it. | |
| Like the studio, in the office. | |
| All joking aside, Young Women's Leadership Summit is coming up. | |
| And if you want to just have your mind blown when you see 3,000 conservative young women in one place, it's Turning Point USA's Young Women's Leadership Summit, June 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in Dallas, tpusa.com/slash YWLS. | |
| Tell us about how this year is going to be a little different, Alex. | |
| Well, one thing that we're doing differently is we're going to have a huge cultural focus for young women. | |
| We're really asking our speakers, hey, we want to be covering the cultural issues that young women are dealing with. | |
| Let's talk about the effects of hormonal birth control. | |
| Let's talk about being a mother and the importance of motherhood, homeschooling. | |
| Yeah, all the thought crimes. | |
| That's what we're going to be doing. | |
| And that was important to me because I feel like a lot of times with conservative young women, we have a lot of questions about these things. | |
| And at political conferences, yeah, we get a lot of, of course, great information about how to go into our communities and change the minds of leftists. | |
| But how can we take cultural information and really implement that in the home? | |
| And also, I think there's a really big need in the conservative movement to really be talking about and answering questions about motherhood and family. | |
| And we know as conservatives that it's so important to have a strong family unit. | |
| And, you know, mothers are incredibly important to that. | |
| So a lot of that type of focus on conversation at Waterbless this year, which is exciting. | |
| So it's our Turning Point USA Young Women's Leadership Summit, tpusa.com/slash YWLS. | |
| Let's dive deeper into that. | |
| I mean, some of these topics wouldn't have been considered that controversial like 20 or 30 years ago, right? | |
| But basically. | |
| Well, just the idea of, you know, a man is not a woman until like two days ago, you know, that wouldn't have gotten you banned off social media either. | |
| Yeah, I don't have a Twitter. | |
| So people are asking me for retweets. | |
| I'm like, I finally have a good excuse not to reach. | |
| I hate that. | |
| People that like never talk to you and then they dive into your DMs. | |
| They've never, you know, supported you otherwise with like, will you retweet me or do this? | |
| I'm like, where have you been? | |
| Exactly. | |
| Now I can't. | |
| That's right. | |
| So, but let's talk about just, okay, let's talk about that one. | |
| I mean, do most young women find like disgust with what's happening with this like William Thomas thing? | |
| I mean, you're in touch with millions of young women, probably one of the most popular podcasters in the country from a non-woke perspective. | |
| Your audience, I'm sure, is fired up about it, but do they feel like scared to talk about it or intimidated? | |
| Or where are they at with this? | |
| Yes, they're scared to talk about it. | |
| They're scared to be banned off social media. | |
| They're scared to get fired from their jobs. | |
| But the people that were in what I call the mushy political middle, where they're kind of scared to take a hard side, they're seeing when it comes to this gender stuff that's happening in society right now, that there does have to be a line that's drawn because now you have men that are taking women's spots in sports and different things like that. | |
| And I find it ironic that the side who has been talking about how there's this war on women and women's rights and the women are losing their place in this country and all of that. | |
| They're nominating a Supreme Court justice that can't even define a woman. | |
| So explain that to me. | |
| And so I think they're starting to see now, okay, clearly there does need to be a stopping point to all this because now where does it end? | |
| Women are absolutely going to be erased. | |
| And this is all due to radical leftism. | |
| Well, it's kind of like, so you go from a complaint that men are crushing women, feminine mystique, you know, back in the 1960s, that whole movement. | |
| And then feminism happens, second and third wave feminism, second wave admirable, third wave, annoying. | |
| And so then this kind of whole, this movement occurs, but now we're back to men crushing women. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And so I don't really deal with a lot of feminists. | |
| Where are they? | |
| I don't know. | |
| They disappeared. | |
| They disappeared because here's why. | |
| The feminist movement has now been completely co-opted by the trans movement. | |
| You cannot have both. | |
| You cannot say that gender doesn't exist and then say, no, I believe that women have rights. | |
| That doesn't go together. | |
| So now the women's feminist march and all that kind of stuff, all of those entities have now been completely co-opted by the far left. | |
| And now they're just using those entities to elect Democrats and then also, of course, put in all this trans stuff. | |
| So Alex, I have some good news for you. | |
| You're more qualified to be on the U.S. Supreme Court than Katangi Brown Jackson. | |
| Play Cut 55, where Alex Clark, being a podcaster, an influencer voice, she can answer a very basic question, play cut 55. | |
| Can you provide a definition for the word woman? | |
| Can I provide a definition? | |
| No. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I can't. | |
| You can't? | |
| Not in this context. | |
| I'm not in biology. | |
| The meaning of the word woman is so unclear and controversial that you can't give me a definition. | |
| Your next U.S. Supreme Court justice, Alex, what is a woman? | |
| Girls have a vagina and boys have a penis. | |
| That's blunt, accurate, and true. | |
| It's blunt, accurate, and true. | |
| And you can't even say it. | |
| No, well, you can't on this show. | |
| But why won't she say that? | |
| I think that I think the Biden administration told her that she cannot be angering the LGBTQ lobby, if I'm being honest. | |
| Yes, the alphabet mafia. | |
| Right. | |
| They were like, whatever you do, don't upset them. | |
| And I also don't think that they were anticipating that anyone would even be this up in arms about her nomination. | |
| They just thought, oh, which again, we're nominating the first ever African-American woman to the Supreme Court. | |
| And so that's what everyone will be so excited about. | |
| And, you know, everybody's talking about Ukraine or whatever. | |
| And nobody's going to be thinking twice about this. | |
| But I also, what really ticks me off is that Joe, President Joe Biden now is trying to take credit and say, look how progressive I am, because I'm the one now that is nominating the first ever African American to the Supreme Court. | |
| But you and I know that under the George Bush administration, that they were trying to, what was her name? | |
| Karen Brown. | |
| I can't remember her name, but we'll get the name. | |
| Yeah. | |
| They were trying, George W. Bush wanted to nominate the first African-American woman to the Supreme Court. | |
| And it was, they were trying to get her on the DC Court of Appeals or something like that to get her on a fast track. | |
| And it was Joe Biden as senator who actually filibustered twice to make sure that that didn't happen for an African-American woman on the Supreme Court. | |
| So he's not this progressive, yeah, this progressive saint that's like coming in and saving the world. | |
| He, it's all a fallacy. | |
| Yes. | |
| And then they're kind of declaring war on biological reality. | |
| So, you know, someone told me the other day, and this is just kind of very interesting, total thought crime. | |
| So I can't wait to talk about this with you. | |
| Someone asked me, in fact, we have an email right here. | |
| Ask me anything all about kind of why is it that women are putting up with this. | |
| And I have a totally different take. | |
| I said, why are men putting up with this? | |
| Right. | |
| Like, men are supposed to be protectors. | |
| I actually think women are more angry than men are about a lot of this stuff. | |
| Like, weak men are just kind of rolling over and letting this happen. | |
| I mean, talk a little bit about like the state of men and women in the country right now where we would allow like William Thomas to go win an NCAA championship and we're supposed to be okay with that. | |
| They talk about the patriarchy and it seems like they're the only ones that are instating this special trans patriarchy. | |
| You cannot go against or voice your opinion against these people or else you're canceled. | |
| You're othered. | |
| You're completely ostracized from society. | |
| Let me ask you, sorry to interrupt, how real is the cancellation thing for young people? | |
| Because I mean, our older listeners are like, yeah, whatever. | |
| Talk about how real that actually they're not getting, they're not getting accepted into colleges for things that they're posting online. | |
| They're getting physically assaulted on their college campuses. | |
| They're getting fired from their jobs. | |
| We have hired a Turning Point USA, which I'm very proud of, to work for an organization that has hired a lot of these young people who have been fired. | |
| We have a lot of people working in our office right now who are then going out and then being that support system for other kids on their high school or college campuses that are facing the same discrimination. | |
| And it's from social ridicule, from kicking out of sororities. | |
| We hear that a lot. | |
| Yes. | |
| Getting kicked out of fraternities. | |
| You know, they will mercilessly attack you if you dare say that a man is a man and a woman is a woman, or that there's differences between men and women. | |
| And I think, I mean, I'm sure you see this in your numbers. | |
| We're seeing this at our Turning Point USA numbers for our Young Women's Leadership Summit, ours together, I should say, is we're seeing, you know, these young ladies, I mean, they're becoming like radical right-wingers. | |
| I mean, they're like, I'm not going to put up with this anymore. | |
| Like, I want to live in a country where I could still be a woman. | |
| Which is always, that's the upside. | |
| That's the upside is that this stuff really peels off the rose-colored glasses and you see the left's motivations for what they are. | |
| And that brings some more people to the right. | |
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Indiana Campus Free Speech Crisis
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| We have a question here. | |
| Ian from Oklahoma. | |
| Charlie, I see your college campus tour is upcoming. | |
| It's correct. | |
| What is the state of speech on college campuses? | |
| So really quick, we'll be going to Arkansas, then Auburn, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, Boulder, Berkeley, UC Fullerton, tpusa.com slash tour. | |
| Alex, I think you can answer that question. | |
| You saw something on social media that ties perfectly into this question of something that was happening in Indiana. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Okay, so Libs of TikTok posted this to give her credit. | |
| It is a sign and it is not sarcastic. | |
| This isn't like a joke. | |
| It is on IUPUI's campus in Indiana and it is a warning sign. | |
| It says, attention, free speech being exercised ahead. | |
| Topics could be upsetting to some. | |
| Your options, engage in a civil manner, decline respectfully and continue on, or alter your route now. | |
| And then it has the official IUPUI logo that the school is being nice and warning you. | |
| Indiana University, Purdue University, Indianapolis, IUPUI. | |
| And so this is a legitimate sign on kind of like the courtyard area of a campus, right? | |
| Correct. | |
| So the place where the most robust speech is supposed to happen. | |
| Yep. | |
| And it says literally, topics could be upsetting to some. | |
| We knew this was, it was going, like, we knew it was going to get to this point. | |
| We knew it was going to get to this point when they started having all those safe spaces after, you know, Hillary lost the election in 2016. | |
| That was the beginning. | |
| And so, I mean, it is just kind of an indictment of what's happening generally in the generation and on college campuses. | |
| So when we visit these campuses, we do have a great amount of response, I have to say, but that's part of the state of speech on these college campuses. | |
| So yes, someone just emailed us right now. | |
| Larry from Wisconsin, he says, I thought this is sarcasm. | |
| No way this is true. | |
| Is this real? | |
| It's absolutely real. | |
| It's on IUPUI's campus in Indiana. | |
| So this is not some sort of sarcastic thing that was put up. | |
| It is real. | |
| Isn't that sad? | |
| I don't understand when computers. | |
| It's so on the edge. | |
| It's like, it's a very weird. | |
| I don't know if you experienced this, Charlie, but sometimes it's odd when students ask us, like, you know, we're running an organization that helps promote ideas like conservatism and free speech on college campuses. | |
| But at the same time, I feel like you and I are on the same page. | |
| When kids ask us, should I go to college? | |
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Dating Advice for Modern Men
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| I say no. | |
| If you can help me. | |
| So you didn't go to college. | |
| No, I didn't go to college. | |
| Correct. | |
| I tell people you probably shouldn't go to college. | |
| Yeah, unless you're going to become, you know, a doctor or a lawyer or something where you have to go. | |
| I absolutely think it's possible to have a very successful career to make a lot of money and be happier and actually smarter by not going to college. | |
| Now you're from Indiana, right? | |
| Yes. | |
| So this, you know this area pretty well. | |
| Yep. | |
| And so that's pretty shocking because Indiana is a red state. | |
| Supposed to be. | |
| Supposed to be a red state, but everything right now is up for grabs. | |
| You have to understand that every state, every traditional red state, Texas included, is up for grabs to the left right now. | |
| So do not get complacent. | |
| Aaron from Tennessee has a question for Alex. | |
| Oh, boy. | |
| Aaron is a man. | |
| Okay. | |
| Because Aaron could go either way. | |
| Now, I want you to be brutally honest here. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| What is wrong with young men today? | |
| He's a man asking like why, why women won't date him, basically. | |
| What's wrong? | |
| What do you hear from women about what's wrong with men? | |
| They're scared to lead. | |
| They're scared to lead and they don't understand to be very direct and clear about their intentions. | |
| If you want to just be friends with a girl, say, I just want to be friends with a girl. | |
| If you want to date a girl, say, I want to date a girl. | |
| And you know who did this the best? | |
| Charlie Kirk. | |
| He took his now wife out to dinner and they were just there, casual as friends. | |
| And then by the end of the dinner, he said, You know what? | |
| I'm going to date you. | |
| And she's like, Okay. | |
| And that was it. | |
| Because you know what? | |
| When we're faced with a man who's willing to be a man and stand up and say, This is what I want and this is what I plan on. | |
| We like that as women. | |
| So, Erica, your wife is like, That sounds good. | |
| She liked it very much. | |
| So, you find that from your listeners? | |
| They say, like, what most men are just kind of undecisive or not clear about what they're into. | |
| Are they? | |
| Could I say weak? | |
| Is that fair? | |
| I think it absolutely is weak. | |
| And I think a lot of that comes from not obviously having a strong father figure, not having dads be mentoring you as kids and saying, This is how we treat a woman. | |
| And also, the per dating should be a job interview process for marriage. | |
| Dating, you shouldn't just date forever. | |
| It shouldn't be this like never-ending, you know, thing that you're stuck in. | |
| It should be a quick thing to figure out, Am I willing to marry this person? | |
| Do we have a plan or not? | |
| Instead, it's what kind of like hookup culture. | |
| Yeah, it's like purgatory. | |
| Like, we just date, and we have no, we have no end goal. | |
| Like, we'll date for five years, we'll date for 10 years. | |
| They don't know what the plan is. | |
| Your plan should be, I want to, how, what do you have to find out during the dating process to know, do I want to marry this person or not? | |
| And so, if you're if the guy or the girl is not getting off the pot and making a decision, so to speak, you should say, What else do you need to learn about me for you to be able to know if you would marry me or not? | |
| Yeah, most men are grown infants, and that's exactly right. | |
| And so, I say this: you know, I was at a conference the other day, and you know, men are saying basically, like, why won't women date me? | |
| I say, well, because you're weak, you're not a man, you're a boy, and that hurts their feelings, though. | |
| Well, maybe you should be more desirable and not just be some infant and start to lead. | |
| Alex Clark agrees, therefore, I must be right. | |
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| The title of Alex Clark's next podcast, Spillover Politics, is Don't Be a Beta Male. | |
| I'll have you on to discuss that. | |
| Yeah, right. | |
| Actually, I think that's what you should make your speech about at Why to Be Less this year: just what women should be looking for when they're looking for a man. | |
| Yeah, what you should demand from a man in your life. | |
| That's right. | |
| So like no vegan, don't put up with me. | |
| See, now my boyfriend's a vegetarian, but I'm working on him. | |
| No, see, I went through a phase where I went through all that. | |
| I got a lot of, I got a lot of strong opinions. | |
| You're a vegetarian? | |
| No, no, no, where I had a heavy emphasis on like that pea protein. | |
| So I still have that every so often, but I really got into the literature, like men are supposed to eat meat. | |
| Oh, 100%. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Send it, send it to my boyfriend. | |
| You can forward it to him. | |
| I'll say that. | |
| This is from Charlie Kirk. | |
| I know. | |
| Nick is phenomenal. | |
| Okay, but Nick is far from a beta male, so you have nothing to worry about there. | |
| So let's talk about, okay, there's a question here, basically I'm paraphrasing from New Mexico here, Mark from New Mexico. | |
| Charlie, are you seeing conversion stories, people that are leading the left? | |
| And I think this question that I've highlighted here, that freedom at charliekirk.com is perfect for a super successful episode that you did here, Alex, on spillover? | |
| Yes. | |
| Tell us about it. | |
| I had this woman on, young woman. | |
| She's 21 years old. | |
| Her name is Evelyn Reeves. | |
| It just came out today. | |
| So go listen to it on the spillover. | |
| She goes by leftist underscore dropout on TikTok, and she became a radical leftist, a radical leftist during the pandemic. | |
| She was already liberal, and then she got even more radicalized actually with George Floyd's death. | |
| And she genuinely did think that cops were hunting black men. | |
| She was the type that would, you know, shout your abortion, that kind of stuff. | |
| I mean, heavy, the most leftist person. | |
| She actually got a cab, ACAB tattooed on her hand. | |
| What is that? | |
| Can I say that on the air? | |
| Well, how about use code words? | |
| Okay, maybe not the last word. | |
| So all cops are blank. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And so that's, she got that tattooed on herself. | |
| And then she started diving into the truth about, you know, the Trump presidency. | |
| Was he really all that bad? | |
| And it was actually her conservative friends and family members were very patient with her. | |
| They were very kind with her. | |
| And they said, Evelyn, look, here's the evidence for the stuff you're talking about. | |
| When you say that, you know, conservatives are racist, because a lot of them supported Trump, because he called all Mexicans are rape, you know, said Mexicans are rapists, you know, was very pro, Charlottesville riot and all the stuff that we see. | |
| Here's the full clip. | |
| Here's the full context of these things. | |
| And her mind started to get blown essentially. | |
| So she got red-pilled. | |
| She got completely red-pilled. | |
| So I have some tape here from your conversation with her. | |
| Finish the point, and then I want to play some of it. | |
| She got red-pilled and she said, wow, if this small thing about conservatism that I believe, for example, that Trump was this, this horrible, racist, evil man was a lie based on how the media was clipping things up and blowing things out of proportion. | |
| What else have I been told about conservatives that is a lie? | |
| And so she got her mind was totally changed and she went from radical leftist, commie, hating America, you know, type of person to full-blown traditional wife, conservative, pro-life, and a Christian. | |
| So I want to play some tape here. | |
| We have four pieces of tape. | |
| So let's start with 108. | |
| This is Evelyn Reeves, and then Riff after each one of these, how the right is actually winning the culture war. | |
| Super interesting. | |
| Take Play Cut 108. | |
| In your opinion, do you think that conservatives actually have a chance at winning the culture war or does the left have too big of a stronghold at this point? | |
| Oh, no, I think we're winning. | |
| I think we are winning at this point, honestly. | |
| And I hate to do like the whole like winning team, losing team, but I actually believe the silent majority because there are people in my life that like used to be kind of apolitical or I thought they were apolitical that I now know are very conservative. | |
| Thoughts on that, Alex? | |
| She's absolutely right. | |
| Every single time one of us is willing to speak up, there's a whole, there's like a hundred other people that are just waiting there for someone else to say something. | |
| And so see, when she in a very, very leftist friend group spoke up, then she started realizing, oh, wait, some of these friends just don't say anything. | |
| And I assume they were leftist because they don't talk or voice their opinion. | |
| Actually, they agree with me. | |
| And this sounds terrible. | |
| Just looking at her, she looks like a leftist. | |
| No, 100%. | |
| She's got the colored hair and everything. | |
| But, and I asked her about that. | |
| I said, no, explain. | |
| You've got all these tattoos. | |
| She has over 60 tattoos. | |
| She has pink and purple hair. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And she still has the ACAB tattoo on her hand. | |
| And I said, well, are you going to remove that tattoo now that you're conservative? | |
| And she said, actually, I think I'm going to keep it because this proves where I was in my life. | |
| And I can point to this and say, this is physical proof. | |
| This is how radical I was. | |
| And let me tell you how Jesus saved me. | |
| And that is one of the coolest parts of her interview: not only is she talking about how she found conservatism, but how she found Jesus and how her whole worldview just collapsed once she found the truth in Jesus Christ. | |
| It stands for all conservatives are better. | |
| That's true. | |
| She could say that now. | |
| All right, let's go to Cut 109. | |
| Somewhat controversial, but it shouldn't be. | |
| She says she used to be bisexual. | |
| Is that correct? | |
| And that it's a sin and she now denounces it. | |
| Play cut 109. | |
| One thing that's interesting about you, I think, is that you're openly bisexual. | |
| I have actually, through my walk with God and everything, started to realize that a lot of that was due to some trauma that I've had because I am a Christian now. | |
| I believe that having that attraction towards women is a sin. | |
| And so while I do still have that attraction, I'm working on, you know, like trying to avoid it, trying to do whatever I can to avoid it. | |
| And it's, it's working, you know. | |
| So she says, I have the temptation, but I'm not acting on it. | |
| Is that what she's saying? | |
| Correct. | |
| And I think what she said was incredible brave. | |
| And actually, if you watch the full interview, which you can on the politics YouTube or just listen to it, the spillover on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, I get emotional after that because lately in the conservative movement, it's actually become very polarizing to say as a conservative or even as a Christian, just publicly, yes, I do believe that homosexuality is a sin just because it's become so accepted in secular culture. | |
| And sometimes we are going to be, you know, come, we're going to come to a part in our life where we're going to have to stand up against things that are uncomfortable. | |
| And a lot of conservatives have gotten a little scared to do that. | |
| And this is a baby conservative. | |
| This girl has been a conservative for a year or so, and she is willing to fully denounce it and say, no, it is a sin, which is the truth. | |
| But she is braver than so many conservatives who have been openly conservative for 40, 50 years in some cases, I think lately. | |
| Would you agree, Charlie? | |
| I totally agree. | |
| I mean, you just kind of get beaten, you know, beat down after 20 or 30 years. | |
| But I mean, she's like, look, I'm just going to be very honest. | |
| Like, this is not how God wants you to live. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And I think it's also really incredible that she admits, yes, this is something I struggle with. | |
| It's not that overnight I just say, oh, boom, I'm a Christian. | |
| I'm never going to struggle with that. | |
| Just because you become a Christian doesn't mean that you're not going to struggle with certain sins. | |
| However, she now has the tools to fight back against it. | |
| Next cut here with Evelyn Reeves, she describes a difference between a liberal and a leftist. | |
| Really smart take. | |
| Cut 111. | |
| What is the difference for people that don't understand between a liberal and a leftist? | |
| Yeah. | |
| So I would say a liberal is, first of all, I feel like they're more laid back, but leftists tend to dislike liberals because a lot of times they say that liberals are kind of performative and everything that liberals do, they try to appease too many people. | |
| Like think of like the hippies in the 70s and stuff where, I mean, I feel like the hippies in the 70s would be conservative today, but wow, that's a statement. | |
| I know. | |
| Yeah, but then leftism is this extreme, extreme view where you're normally a communist. | |
| I was a communist or a democratic socialist or something like that. | |
| So thoughts on that? | |
| She's absolutely right. | |
| You know, liberals, classical liberals do believe in things like free speech. | |
| That would be the difference between a far leftist and a liberal. | |
| But what was crazy to me is that she actually hated America. | |
| She did think that it was an evil, awful place. | |
| And when I asked her, how did you rationalize the fact that it's because you live in America that you're able to have those extreme views when you were leftist? | |
| How did you rationalize that with yourself? | |
| And she said, I didn't know how because I would get asked that. | |
| And all I would have, because you know, the left never dives into why they really believe what they believe. | |
| There's no evidence to what they believe. | |
| So she would just say, oh, well, capitalism prevents me from moving. | |
| And I don't, she would like make up things and she would regurgitate these weird talking points that didn't make sense. | |
| And she said, so those were the types of things, though, that when she started to think about why do I believe this, or is there evidence to these leftist beliefs? | |
| Nothing held up to the truth of conservatism. | |
| And what I find important, Alex, about this conversation, which is why we're going to have friends like this person. | |
| Yes. | |
| So many people have people in their life that just like militantly leftist, right? | |
| Like intensely radical, tattoos about how all cops are. | |
| And then they just have this like transformation event and it just totally changes your life. | |
| And you know, it's really easy. | |
| And I know we hear about this too from older people in the conservative movement to just really feel hopeless sometimes when you see things like warning there might be free speech ahead on your Tangi Brown Jackson. | |
| Or yes, or Judge Jackson. | |
| You see these things and you just think, you know what, we've lost the culture war. | |
| We're done. | |
| These people are so far left. | |
| There's no hope for them. | |
| This is one of the most far left people I've ever talked to. | |
| And she, what she describes, the types of things that she was posting online and how radical she was. | |
| She, and now that she's gone from there to now thinking that Derek Chauvin got too severe of a prison sentence, that is how radical her transformation was. | |
| I mean, this is as far left as you can get to how far right you can get. | |
| And so if it's possible for Evelyn Reeves, aka leftist underscore dropout on TikTok, it's possible for any of our friends and family that we feel like, Am I ever going to get my sister back? | |
| Am I ever going to get my son back? | |
| You know, I know those heartbreaking things that people struggle with. | |
| I hear about it all the time. | |
| And so Evelyn's story is amazing because you listen to this and it not only gives you hope for where we're going in this country, but also she gives pointers on how to debate these people on the far left and what was getting through to her so that you know how to talk to those people in your life. | |
| Remarkable. | |
| Cut 112. | |
| Evelyn Reeves talks about how a lot of leftists feel Antifa is not extreme enough. | |
| Play cut 112. | |
| Sometimes you go even farther and they want like violent revolution with it as well. | |
| So do classify that the ones that are wanting violent revolution, like the Antifa types. | |
| Yeah, but even, I mean, even farther than that, there are people who think that Antifa is too right. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| What? | |
| I've never heard that before. | |
| Yeah, they don't think Antifa is doing enough. | |
| Alex, I'd never heard this. | |
| Had you? | |
| Not really. | |
| I mean, I've heard it like here and there, but I didn't, I didn't realize that was like a belief. | |
| I didn't either because I thought, what do you mean? | |
| Okay, imagine this. | |
| How scary is this? | |
| If there are people on the left that think that Antifa isn't doing enough when they're burning down your cities and ruining your small businesses and assaulting people in the street, beating up old ladies in the street, what is doing enough to them? | |
| What would be, what would be the next step? | |
| Because to me, I don't really know what's worse than that. | |
| What is worse? | |
| And they call us the insurrectionists, right? | |
| Exactly. | |
| So I don't understand. | |
| That was one of the craziest parts of this interview with her on the spillover podcast is her saying that there are people now on the left that are think, oh, Antifa's just, they're not radical enough. | |
| And so my question is, what is radical enough to the left? | |
| I don't think they're going to answer that question, but scary. | |
| I guess beheading us in the street. | |
| I mean, honestly, I don't know what French Revolution style. | |
| Like, we're going to cut your heads off in the guillotine. | |
| Alex Clark is here, Young Women's Leadership Summit, June 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. | |
| Any of the speakers you can tease us with? | |
| I don't think I'm allowed right now. | |
| Or they might get me. | |
| We'll get in trouble. | |
| You and I both. | |
| I'm not allowed to even say that. | |
| But I believe the first speaker drop is coming this week or next, so very soon. | |
| TPUSA.com slash YWLS is our Young Women's Leadership Summit, everybody. | |
| Alex Clark is the chairwoman. | |
| Is that fair to say? | |
| I don't know if I have an official title, but I mean, yes. | |
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Porn Consumption and Moral Responsibility
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| I don't like it when women get called chairman. | |
| I don't like that. | |
| Chairwoman. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Check out the spillover podcast. | |
| Also, Popolitics is also in podcast form. | |
| Yep. | |
| And you still do that every single day, five to seven minutes, pop culture without the propaganda? | |
| Every single day. | |
| It's really best. | |
| It's a lot of work. | |
| It is. | |
| It's really best to watch politics on Instagram at Poplit. | |
| It's very visually. | |
| It's very visual. | |
| It's very funny. | |
| It's fun and a lot of funny clips and stuff. | |
| So it's better to watch the show. | |
| But yes, you can find the podcast version. | |
| And then Young Women's Leadership Summit, which is going to be epic. | |
| Okay. | |
| So, Alex, we got a lot of questions here. | |
| Some young women are basically emailing us and saying, I can't find a man. | |
| So like, what's your like total truth bomb towards young women if they can't find a man? | |
| You basically can control what you deserve. | |
| I mean, if you're setting a low standard and you're like, yeah, this guy can date me forever. | |
| And I never, you know, give an ultimatum and I just let him do whatever he wants. | |
| I let him stay out late. | |
| I let him play video games all night, all these different things, then that's what you're going to get in your relationship. | |
| So you can demand better and you should demand better. | |
| Why are women not doing that? | |
| I think that we're just, we don't want to be alone. | |
| We're lonely. | |
| And so we just, we want to have a boyfriend. | |
| Of course, everyone does. | |
| You want to find love. | |
| But the problem is, is yeah, you can, you can find love, but is it going to be a great love? | |
| And sometimes it's worth the wait. | |
| And you know, I had a girl the other day ask me, she said, Alex, you know, I'm 36 years old. | |
| I've ever, I've only ever gone on three dates. | |
| And she said, I have the opportunity to go on a second date for the first time with this guy, but I'm not really feeling it. | |
| But should I just do it for practice, just to get practice dating? | |
| And I said, no, I don't think you should because here's why. | |
| When you meet the right person that you're supposed to be with, it's not going to matter if you've gone on 150 dates before or just one. | |
| You just know on one date. | |
| You knew on one date, Charlie, and your wife knew on one date. | |
| And so I don't think that matters. | |
| I don't think you need to just be dating out there and participating in hookup culture and all these things for practice. | |
| When you meet the person that God has designed for you, you don't need practice. | |
| It will just happen. | |
| So why are parents not instilling that in a lot of their kids? | |
| They're kind of like, oh, yeah, go out, do whatever you want, go to college, like get it out of your system. | |
| Because they're, because we're raising kids in a godless society. | |
| This generation goes to church less than any other generation. | |
| We're always looking for community. | |
| That's why you see all these people, you know, becoming transgender, all these different things, becoming radical leftists, becoming LGBTQ, you know, for absolutely no reason. | |
| They just want to belong to something. | |
| Or, you know, we're dating people that aren't really right for us because we just want to have somebody. | |
| We want a sense of community. | |
| And we don't have the church really in our life being that community for us. | |
| And so you're seeing the ramifications for that all over. | |
| Yeah, look, I tell men all the time that, I mean, you said it best, that they need to become a leader. | |
| They need to get their act together. | |
| They need to stop drinking alcohol if that's holding you back. | |
| Like, I'm not being a moralist about it. | |
| I'm just being honest. | |
| It's a big problem a lot of young young men have. | |
| They need to get off the video games and actually get into physical labor or at least working out and be someone worth being with, right? | |
| Here's a truth, bomb. | |
| Stop watching porn. | |
| And I say that to the men and the women. | |
| Stop watching porn. | |
| So the men, obviously, we had a whole, what was that person's name? | |
| Buck Angel. | |
| Yeah, the porn person. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So what, so, but women have a problem with pornography too, though. | |
| That's true. | |
| And I always keep my guess a secret on my podcast, The Spillover. | |
| But I will say this just exclusive for Charlie Kirk show listeners, is that I do have an incredible young woman who is addicted to pornography from her childhood until Philly Eilish is coming. | |
| Not Billie Eilish. | |
| I'm a little bit more. | |
| Another girl. | |
| I'm a little bit pop culturally literate. | |
| Another girl. | |
| Another girl is talking about how she was addicted to porn and overcame it, and women never discuss this. | |
| So that's going to be an episode to look forward to on The Spillover. | |
| If you're wanting jaw-dropping conversations that no one else is having in the conservative movement about topics that seem taboo and hard to have in the conservative movement, you will love my podcast, The Spillover. | |
| That's such an important thing. | |
| And for men in particular, they get super addicted to pornography at a young age and they don't understand the damage it's done to them. | |
| Parents need to do a better job of policing it. | |
| There's some really helpful browsers out there that parents should mandatory institute on their young men's devices. | |
| It's more addictive and more destructive than heroin and fentanyl. | |
| It just is. | |
| And it might not be immediately so because you can't overdose on it, but it could destroy your entire life. | |
| It really can. | |
| And that's one of the reasons why you're seeing lower testosterone rates, lower sex drives of young men. | |
| Young men are not the men their grandfathers were. | |
| Plenty of thought crimes here, everybody. | |
| If you want to hear more, it's the Spillover podcast. | |
| It's Poplitix. | |
| It's our young women's leadership summit, tpusa.com slash YWLS. | |
| With code Popolitics for 25% off. | |
| Okay, use code Pop. | |
| I don't even know if I have a promo code. | |
| I just work here. | |
| I do what I'm told. | |
| Or code Charlie. | |
| I guess I have a code, whatever. | |
| But use Poplitix. | |
| Be charitable because that's the masculine thing to do. | |
| There you go. | |
| tpusa.com slash ywls. | |
| Alex, keep it up. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thanks so much for listening, everybody. | |
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| God bless. | |
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