Ask Charlie Anything 98: Is Lia Thomas a Cheat? Exporting American Values? And MORE
With the return of Ask Charlie Anything Mondays, Charlie tackles the questions you send to Freedom@Charliekirk.com—including; what should conservatives make of the transgender controversy & Lia Thomas? And - what has the evolution of America looked like for neoconservatism? All of that plus a fascinating dive into the ongoing propaganda war at the heart of the Ukrainian conflict 5,100 miles away that you won’t want to miss. Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Justice for Tonya Harding00:15:50
Thank you.
I saw that you called Leah Thomas a narcissistic cheater.
I did.
I agreed she is cheating, but shouldn't we have compassion on our tone and the way we talk about her?
Well, I would say talk about him.
Keep up all the great work.
So I'll be very honest.
Saying narcissistic cheater is the nice version of what I would like to say to this particular individual.
Let me first focus on the cheater aspect and how I think we should talk about cheaters.
Cheating is a form of theft.
It is stealing something that is not yours.
This is a question of justice.
Within who we are as human beings, we don't like to see things taken from others.
This is also one of the Ten Commandments.
Do not take from others.
It is not yours.
Stealing is morally wrong.
We also do not like when the strong crush the weak.
This is the reason why we oppose Vladimir Putin's aggression in Ukraine.
We do not like when stronger nations, stronger people, take advantage against people that are not able to defend themselves.
This is also why we support laws against pedophilia, adults taking advantage of children.
It's immoral.
And for all those reasons, and we shouldn't have to overcomplicate this.
We shouldn't have to go on a long speech about this.
Leah Thomas, or whatever Leah's real name is, which someone emailed it to me actually this morning, I'll use it, is a cheater.
It's no different than someone who might win a championship and doing it unethically.
Thomas's real name is William Thomas.
To give you an idea, William Thomas was the 462nd best swimmer in men's swimming.
Now, Leah Thomas is the number one swimmer in women's swimming.
Goes from 462 to number one.
So how should we treat cheaters?
Well, many people don't know about the story of Tonya Harding.
Tonya Harding was a figure skater, a good one, but she needed an extra boost.
She needed an extra advantage to take down her rival, Nancy Kerrigan.
Tonya Harding hired her ex-husband to orchestrate a physical attack on her rival.
A man was paid to go find Kerrigan and assault her by hitting her in the right knee with a police baton so terribly that Kerrigan would be unable to compete.
The skater was then seriously injured and unable to compete in the upcoming event.
Tonya Harding then ended up winning the national championship, but had to vacate the title in June of 1994 when she was also banned for life from competing in the sport after her involvement in the attack was revealed.
So William Thomas is doing the exact same thing that Tonya Harding did.
By exact same, of course, Leah Thomas, William Thomas, is not going around and bashing people's knees with a police baton, but Thomas is using a structural advantage in a way of cutting a corner by having higher levels of testosterone as being, because Thomas is a biological man.
How should we view Lance Armstrong?
Lance Armstrong was the child, was the poster child, I should say, of the post office.
That should have really tipped us off.
Livestrong was his entire shtick.
One of the most celebrated athletes in history after overcoming cancer, he won seven Tour de Frances.
It all came crashing down, of course, when we found out he was not just a cheater, but he was a sophisticated cheater, using performance-enhancing drugs throughout all of his career.
He was stripped from the record books, including seven Tour de France wins, a bronze medal he won at the 2000 Olympics.
No one had gone from hero to villain so quickly in the world of sports.
So how we view Lance Armstrong and Tonya Harding is exactly how we should view Thomas.
If Thomas was not pretending to be a man, Thomas would be hiring people to assault competitors with police batons.
If Thomas was not pretending to be a woman, I should say, not pretending to be man, pretending to be a woman, Thomas would be using performance-enhancing drugs.
I mean this seriously.
How is this any different?
Using performance-enhancing drugs versus using a performance enhancement that you have, being a biological man, competing against women?
How are those two things any morally different?
Well, Thomas is now a national champion.
Female sports is on the way to being completely and totally destroyed.
The strong are supposed to protect the weaker.
Women are stronger than men in a lot of different things.
But in sports, men have a biological advantage.
Cut 103, Thomas, speaks about winning the NCAA Women's Championship, Play Cut 103.
Leah, how did that performance measure up to your expectations coming into this meet tonight?
I didn't have a whole lot of expectations for this meeting.
I was just happy to be here trying to race and compete as best as I could.
What did that race mean to you?
It means the world to be here, be with two of my best friends and teammates, and be able to compete.
So, Thomas won the national championship and disenfranchised other female swimmers that do not have the biological advantage that Thomas has.
What's so amazing is how everyone is just putting up with this: the people in the stands, the bystanders, because they don't want to be called bad names.
You see, the tyranny of name-calling creates this paralysis effect.
Cut 104, 11-time NCAA All-American swimming champion Jerry Chanteau described the toll that University of Pennsylvania transgender swimmer Leah Thomas's dominance of women's swimming is having on its competitors, Play Cut 104.
What I felt watching this morning and this evening was genuine just devastation and sadness for the women that are being asked to show up at the Women's NCAA Division I swimming and diving championships and to then,
under the best of circumstances, perform their best, go best times.
And now you need to do it against a male body.
You need to do it and exit the pool silently and gracefully.
You see, I wish they wouldn't have done it silently and gracefully.
I wish the other women would have gone up and said, You're a cheater.
How dare you?
I wish they would have chewed this mentally disturbed individual out.
I wish they would have put everything on the line and say, What's wrong with you?
Like, you have you no shame?
You're a sick individual.
You're a cheater.
We shouldn't put up with cheating in our country.
It's theft.
We don't put up with, well, actually, I guess we do actually put up with robberies now.
The same country that puts up with massive looting is going to put up with Leah Thomas or William Thomas or whatever.
It's like, if it's okay to steal things, I guess it's fine to steal national championships.
We're on YouTube, so I have to be careful the way I say this.
If it's okay to interfere with elections and have immoral behavior there, it's fine.
I know I have to keep on reiterating this.
I'm not attacking Thomas because he needs to go see a therapist.
I'm attacking them or Thomas because they're cheating.
They're stealing something.
Thomas is a thief.
Play Cut 105.
I watched them get out and cry with their coaches and their parents because of the emotional and psychological turmoil that is taking on these women.
And that is what needs to be said.
That is what people need to hear.
It is more than just the sport.
It is more than losing the titles, which they are certainly losing.
This is not about hate.
This is about protecting women in all aspects now and in the future.
It's hard to believe.
I would not put up with it.
I don't know why people are, but actually, I do.
We just lived two years of mass injustice while people allow children to get vaccinated against their will unnecessarily, masks on children unnecessarily, lockdown.
That very same country that allows widespread injustice and makes sense why they would allow this thief, this robber baron, to destroy female sports.
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Mark from Alabama.
Charlie, I think it's time that we continue to spread American values across the world.
How could you possibly be opposed to that?
America is the greatest nation ever to exist, and it is a moral good to spread our ideas everywhere.
Thanks.
Love the podcast.
So let me build out this argument for you, which I think is a word of caution when it comes to foreign affairs and the current regime.
So when we get involved in countries diplomatically, when we get involved financially, we are told that we are bringing American ideas and Western values into these nations.
But what does the regime mean by American values?
You see, we might be saying the same thing technically, but we're actually talking about two completely different things.
So whether it's our friend in Alabama who just asked the question, or a welder in Nebraska, or a mom in Wyoming, their definition of what they would expect to be American values is actually completely different than what is happening.
So when the regime says that we want to try and displace a dictator, what do they actually want to replace it with?
Or what are they trying to put forward?
So many Americans, when they hear, yes, we are going to be sending American values, they probably expect that we're going to be sending Washington, Lincoln, the Declaration, Thomas Jefferson, the Constitution, free market economics, a respect for private property, checks and balances, separation of powers, an independent judiciary, and consent of the governed.
That's probably what you're expecting.
Now, some nations are not prepared for that.
But even if they weren't prepared, that is not what our regime is doing when they involve themselves in these countries.
For example, when the Ukrainian government that was pro-Russian back in 2014 and 15 was displaced, and the kind of reign that was put in, which now extends to today, Zelensky is more recent than that, but he's part of that kind of Western interference in Ukraine.
Were we putting forward an agenda rooted in Western values?
No, you see, we're not exporting the ideas of Washington and Lincoln and self-government and enlightenment ideas.
Instead, the regime is exporting ideas like the 1619 project, LGBT radicalism, planned parenthood practices, massive drug legalization, and transgender swimmers.
You see, we need to be very careful because what I believe is American values and what you believe is American values, I'd love the world to try to embrace it, albeit not every country is ready for it.
That's the second part of this, which I'll get into in a little bit.
But let's just focus right here, which is they manipulate that term because they know that you love America even though they don't.
Let me prove it to you.
Cut 111, get that ready to go, was when the State Department decided that it was time to show the world what American values was.
Now, to show American values, did we decide to do open-air readings in front of State Department embassies of the Constitution?
Did we do reenactments of the Emancipation Proclamation?
Did we show statues of Frederick Douglass and Benjamin Franklin?
Did we talk about the heroism of our founding fathers and the generations to come that sacrificed on Normandy Beach?
What was the American values that the United States State Department decided to do when it mattered most?
Hear it for yourself.
Play Cut 111.
So, James Rita, we mentioned Black Lives Matter.
James, apparently embassies have decided that they quite like Black Lives Matter, U.S. embassies under Joe Biden.
Well, not just, you know, U.S. embassies.
This isn't the embassies and ambassadors going off their own bat.
No, this is Anthony Blicken, the U.S. Secretary of State, saying we encourage people to fly the Black Lives Matter flag from U.S. embassies.
Please go and fly this Marxist flag from your embassy so that everybody in the world can see you virtue signal.
So that's what they mean by imposing these values on other countries.
We're going to go fly Black Lives Matter flags.
We're going to fly gay pride flags, which they do every June outside of embassies.
So while you might think, yes, we need to spread the eternal principles of the Declaration, that's not what the regime is doing.
They're spreading the values of Planned Parenthood, BLM, LGBTQ radicalism into these countries.
The American values they're sending are the ones that we're trying to defeat here domestically.
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Okay, I want to further, I want to build out this point a little bit more.
Putin's Totalitarianism Quote00:11:52
Someone asked us right here, it was Paul from Minnesota, Charlie, what are Vladimir Putin's intentions?
How does he view all of this?
Basically, it's a long meandering email.
Basically, where's his hat at?
Is he crazy?
Look, Vladimir Putin very might be crazy.
He might have lost his mind.
Vladimir Putin is evil in what he is doing.
We have gone through that in great detail, our perspective of the scum that is Vladimir Putin.
It's important to understand the geopolitics of this and some of the philosophical, let's say, worldview differences that Putin is using to persuade the Russian people to get involved in this fight and to fight in Ukraine.
So, one of them is these kind of two different blends or flavors of totalitarianism.
You see, so Putin and his regime is very socially conservative.
They do not have much patience for homosexuality.
They have restricting immigration.
Putin is an ethno-nationalist, and we find that viewpoint to be repulsive.
Putin has a unique blend of totalitarianism.
It's not that unique, actually.
It's been used many times in the last 100 years, but it's unique right now.
There's not a lot left on the planet with the kind of power that Putin has.
Putin, though, looks at himself as trying to crush a different type of tyranny and totalitarianism.
Putin, as he's justifying it to the people in his own country and justifying it to himself, is he is basically waging war, not just against Zelensky, not just to denazify Ukraine, which is obviously garbage.
Not that there's not Nazis, but that's not why Putin's doing this.
Not to reclaim the lands, not to try to be the male version of Catherine the Great.
No, instead, what it really is about at a deeper, more fundamental level, and you can see this in some of his dialogue he's doing recently, Putin is really upset and angered by the West's imposition of this radical gender ideology, the kind of widespread abortion policy.
And so, when he sees videos like this, it gives him a rallying cry for his own domestic support.
And I'm not, I'm not defending.
I think it's repulsive what Putin is doing, obviously.
But it's important that you understand the context of this and how he views his struggle and how the people of Russia view the crusade in Ukraine, which is they think they're fighting against the West's degeneracy.
They think they're fighting against the West's love of money, love of sexual impulse, the West's moral crimes against humanity.
So they see videos like this and they start to see this kind of imposition of what they call degenerative Western NATO values.
And it gives Putin more of a totalitarian grip on his population, basically saying, you see, that's why we need to stay in control so that all this craziness doesn't come here to Russia.
Play cut 115.
So Secretary Blinken has issued authorization and has essentially told our embassies around the world that they are free to do as they see fit.
And so if an embassy wishes to fly the rainbow flag during Pride Month, they are, of course, welcome to do that.
This was Voice of America News saying that, look, if embassies want to fly the gay pride flag, you guys are more than willing to do it.
In fact, NATO, as soon as Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine, they post a picture, NATO holding a rainbow flag, basically saying our acceptance of gay and lesbians is our strength.
That only makes Putin stronger, more stronger domestically.
I'm not saying you shouldn't do it.
I'm just, it's just a fact of life.
So this is a quote from Vladimir Putin.
And again, I have to repeat this.
It's almost like every five seconds I have to repeat this, but you guys can go back into the archives and I'll just say it again.
I'm not defending Putin.
I think he's a scumbag and a war criminal and all this stuff.
But if you do not understand the full context of what is really happening here, that part of this war is actually about social policy.
Part of this war of Putin invading Ukraine is actually the very same culture wars that are being discussed in school boards in America.
Very similar.
It's not all of it.
Obviously, Putin wants the land.
He wants the resources.
He wants to be able to control and conquer.
But there's a large element for Putin to remain domestically popular to try to wage war on the West's degenerative values.
Okay, quote, allegedly degenerative values.
Quote, Putin says, I want ordinary citizens of the Western states to hear me too.
They are now trying to convince you that all your difficulties are the result of the hostile actions of Russia, that from your wallet you need to pay for the fight against the mythical Russian threat.
It's all a lie.
Okay, that's not the quote I was looking for.
But the other one is this, is when he was speaking to a discussion club in the Black Sea of Sochi, Putin stressed that his country should adhere to his own, quote, spiritual values and historical traditions while steering clear of quote socio-cultural disturbances.
He said, quote, some Westerners believe that the aggressive deletion of whole pages of their own history, reverse discrimination against the majority in the interest of minorities, he's obviously attacking critical race theory, constitute movement towards public renewal.
Putin says, quote, it's in their right, but we're also asking them to steer clear of our home.
We have a different viewpoint.
So Putin is saying to his leaders and to say to his people, like, look, if you guys in the West want to destroy yourself, if you guys in the West want to commit cultural suicide, whatever, we have a different way to do it.
Yeah, the different way they do it in Russia is totalitarian.
We don't like that.
There's two different types of totalitarianism, believe it or not, that are kind of now being like buttressed against each other.
Putin said, quote, in 2019, he told the Financial Times of London newspaper that liberalism has become obsolete.
He said children are, quote, taught that a boy can become a girl and vice versa is monstrous and Putin says is on the verge of a crime against humanity.
Vladimir Putin also suggested that transgender rights supporters were demanding an end to basic things such as mother, mother, father, family, or gender differences.
So you have NATO, which is more like NAWO, which is like the North Atlantic woke organization, going up against a totalitarian despot.
And so you have these kind of two different types of totalitarian impulses going against one another.
Because let's be honest, it's not the kind of small L liberals.
It's not the Bill Maher types.
It's not the kind of Enlightenment thinkers that are running NATO.
No, these people are like Harvard educated, Brown educated, woke totalitarians.
And neither is acceptable, by the way.
Putin believes the response to what is happening in the West is more restrictions, more control.
In fact, to a place that is so, let's say, authoritarian that freedom of speech is no longer a value, freedom of assembly is no longer a value.
We don't hold that view as conservatives, obviously.
We believe in the blending of antiquity and the best of the Enlightenment and modernity with the respect for individual rights.
There's reports that Russians have jailed many people for being gay, which is repulsive and disgusting.
Putin rules a country, this is from the Washington Post, where a number of credible reports of the torture and imprisonment of gay men.
In 2013, he signed a, quote, anti-gay propaganda law that Human Rights Watch said prompted increased hostility towards LGBT communities and made it harder for children to access the information about non-traditional relations.
The effect had particularly been profound in schools, where some Russian teachers characterized LGBTQ people as, quote, as a symptom of perversion imported from the Western Europe or North America.
Now, that's the important thing, right?
So Russian teachers are saying that the kind of the homosexual movement, that this degenerative stuff is from the West.
And so basically, one of the ways that Putin is convincing this war to continue is, of course, the ethno-nationalist impulse, which is repulsive.
But it's also an equally repulsive thing where he's saying, like, look, we are now going to fight these Western values in Ukraine.
And one of the things that has really probably motivated Russians to support this war is Putin has been saying, hey, look, Ukraine, who we think we are one people, Ukraine, where we look at them as our fellow countrymen, Ukraine, we all used to be part of the Soviet Union.
Now Ukraine is becoming more like Paris and we hate Paris.
So a lot of this happening right now, the deeper game at play here is social policy.
Isn't that interesting?
I don't hear one person on television talking about that.
Not one.
The only person I only hear talking about it is that we need to now impose this kind of radical woke nonsense in more countries.
Now, I'm not saying that we provoked this, but by implementing some of the BLM flags over embassies and the gay pride flags over embassies and kind of our evangelistic fervor to push forth these ideas, you can't help but wonder, did this help actually Vladimir Putin get more powerful?
Okay, let's get to another question here.
But I hope that background and context was helpful, especially when it comes to what's happening in Ukraine.
It's a whole different kind of chapter in this story that I think most people overlooked, have been overlooking.
Okay, Charlie, love you and Erica.
Thank you.
I love Erica too.
Love your show.
And I saw your telegram that cases are on the rise around the world, COVID cases.
But praise God, deaths are down.
I'm worried restrictions are coming back.
You said we should never allow it to happen, and I agree.
But I fear now that they've done it once, they'll do it again.
Are we heading for lockdowns in the spring, Chloe from Philly?
We very well might be.
There are increasing reports that COVID cases are on the rise in Europe, politico.
Europe's COVID spike, has Biden officials concerned, could lead to the return of masks.
The surge in COVID-19 cases in Europe, in particular the United Kingdom, is prompting urgent conversations among senior Biden health aides about the potential U.S. experience, United States experiencing another wave this spring.
We're not done yet.
After all these vaccines, all the boosters, Omicron, we're still not done.
While cases in the United States are at an eight-month low, the exponential growth in infections seen in several European countries is the latest evidence that COVID-19 remains a persistent threat and has the potential to upend White House's hopes of moving past the pandemic.
Anthony Fauci said, quote, you've got to be at least prepared that we may see something similar here with some differences because there's always some differences.
We're not going to ignore it.
We've got to monitor very carefully.
In China, they are locking down again and quarantining.
Austria just reintroduced mandatory mask mandates in most indoor settings starting next week, just two weeks after the requirement was abolished.
Do not be shocked.
Do not be surprised if lockdowns are coming again soon.
We will never let this happen again.
And we might have to have some of our experts again just to kind of refresh our memory of what we've been through, what you can do about it, how you can prophylactically help yourself, all these sorts of things.
We might have to kind of shake off the dust and get back into the posture we've been in the last two years, but we are not out of the woods yet, everybody.
Not even close.
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It's a very important point that in Ukraine, Putin is using kind of an international culture war, if you will, to kind of rally the troops.
Putin spoke to 100,000 people at a rally just a couple hours ago to widespread support.
Wonder how many people are being paid to be there.
You got to wonder.
I don't have a transcript of his speech.
I'm just curious always to hear what he has to say.
Everyone should be.
But part of his rallying cry leading up to this is: look at the West.
They can't get their act together.
And I'll be very honest.
We're not making our case as the West when we have men win women's athletic championships.
It's not exactly like making ourselves look good, making ourselves look strong or decent as if we have our act together.
Makes us look like fools.
Stuff like that makes dictators and despots, makes it easier for them to create tyranny with their citizens.
Okay, Charlie, you warned about the end of the dollar as the world's reserve currency.
You said that the petrodollar was key to this.
That's correct.
My question is twofold.
Do you think we can have multiple reserve currencies, like Chairman Powell said, too?
Does the green energy revolution the Dems want directly threaten the American reserve currency status?
It seems an obvious question.
But how come the Democrats don't talk about this?
Are they corrupt or stupid?
Both.
Okay, so here's an article right here.
Zerohedge.com.
Say hello to the Russia gold and Chinese petroyuan.
There's a long time coming, but finally some linaments of the multipolar world, new foundations are being revealed.
On Friday, after a video conference meeting, the Eurasian Economic Union and China agreed to design the mechanism for an independent international monetary and financial system.
The AEAEU consists of Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Belarus, and Armenia in establishing free trade deals with Eurasian nations and progressively interconnecting them with the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative.
For all practical purposes, the idea comes from Sergei Gizilov, Russia's foremost and independent economist, a former advisor to Putin and Minister of Integration and Macroeconomics.
Translation, as China is as much of a power in the Eurasian sector as Russia, they need to coordinate their strategies to bypass the U.S. unipolar system.
Yes, getting off the petrodollar would crash the American dollar as we know it and would bypass all the success that we have been able to have as a nation.
It would be a disaster.
Okay, let's get to another question.
And then I think another part of the question was, can we have more than one preserved currency?
I think that's a terrible idea.
In 1974, it's important to remember Washington and Riyadh, the capital of Saudi Arabia, struck a deal by which Saudi Arabia could buy U.S. Treasury bills before they were auctioned.
In return, Saudi Arabia would sell its oil in dollars, not only enlarging the currency's liquidity, but also using those dollars to buy U.S. debt and products.
Saudi Arabia is now thinking not doing this anymore because of the JCPOA number two, otherwise known as the Iran deal.
Now, guess who's negotiating the Iran deal for us?
This is what's so disingenuous about this.
It's really interesting.
The more you look into it, almost all roads go through Iran right now.
It's very interesting.
The idea of what's happening with energy, the idea what's happening with the geopolitics of energy, Saudi Arabia, and even Russia.
So we are negotiating with Iran, which we shouldn't even be doing.
Who's the middleman?
Russia is the mediator between us and Iran in Vienna while Russia is invading Ukraine.
So if we were so upset about Russia, why are we allowing them to moderate our discussions?
Can someone ask that out of the Biden regime in a press conference?
Can someone ask the Biden regime, hey, if you don't trust Russia, if you call Putin a war criminal, fine, okay, we agree.
Why would you also sit down with Russia to have them be the middleman with Iran potentially getting a nuclear weapon?
Now, some people in America say, what's the big deal of Iran getting a nuclear weapon?
Well, first of all, they want to destroy America.
They want to destroy the West.
They want to destroy Israel, destroy all the Jews in the world.
Giving them a nuclear weapon would be one of the stupidest ideas ever.
But let's go a step deeper.
Let's just kind of take a step back.
What would that mean for Saudi Arabia?
Well, Saudi Arabia is going to be like, all right, if you guys aren't going to have our back, we're not going to sell oil to you anymore in dollars.
We're not going to pre-purchase dollars and sell oil to you.
Saudi Arabia hates the Iranians and the feeling is mutual.
So as Biden continues to pander to the Iranians, Obama's love of the Iranian regime is bizarre and was never properly explained, I think.
There are some theories out there.
I don't know if I believe them.
All roads go through Iran right now, which, by the way, the government of Iran is only the way it is because we meddled and interfered with their democratic elections.
Thanks to declassified CIA documents.
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