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March 17, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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'15 Days to Slow the Spread' — 730 Days Later

As the nation marked the two-year "anniversary" of Lockdowns, Mandates, and the Erosion of our Natural Rights, Charlie looks back on the initial broken promise that underwrote the greatest loss of civil liberties in American History. Where are we as a nation after 730 days—healthier? Happier? More prosperous? Sadly, we all know the answer to those questions. He's joined by Representative Thomas Massie who offers his reaction & reflection on the past two years and what he and some of his fellow members of Congress are doing to right this most grievous wrong. The Congressman from Kentucky also reacts to Volodymyr Zelensky's address to a Joint Session of the House & Senate yesterday and dives in to the foreign policy implications of the War in Ukraine in light of that speech. Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Learning From Our COVID Nonsense 00:10:24
Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show.
It is year two.
What is it?
Day 730 or something?
Or 720 or 730 of 15 days to slow the spread.
Day 730 of 15 days to slow the spread.
We talk about, do we learn anything from our COVID nonsense?
And also, we have Thomas Massey talk about Ukraine, Russia, mask mandates, and more.
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Hello, everybody.
It is two years of 15 days to slow the spread.
Where were you two years ago?
I remember exactly where I was.
I was in Phoenix, Arizona.
We didn't really know what we were dealing with at the time.
I remember exactly the office I was sitting in here in Phoenix, and I remember the Turning Point USA team that was in, and we were all really confused.
Said, wait, they're going to shut down the country?
What does that mean?
Like, are they going to have martial law?
Are they going to prohibit people from going from one block to the other?
What does locking down mean?
And we kind of all learned kind of what a lockdown was pretty quickly: 15 days to slow the spread, and then it became 30 days to slow the spread.
And it's been two years of lockdowns now.
What's so amazing, though, is it's not the virus that did this.
It was our reaction to the virus.
So, two years later, what do we know now that we were told then?
And what can that do to actually help us look at the news that's happening today?
Well, we were told then that people could asymptomatically spread the virus.
We were told that this came from a bat in the Himalayan mountains.
We were told that there were no treatments largely available.
All you had to do was stay at home.
And if you got the virus, get a ventilator.
We were told that you must first not wear masks, then wear cloth masks.
We were told that treatments such as hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin and vitamin D levels and ivermectin, none of those things could possibly help you.
We were told that the virus could be spread on a surface and could stay there for upwards of a week or two weeks.
So we had to wear gloves and we had to scrub down all the surfaces.
We were told that children could be super spreaders of the virus.
So we have to lock down schools.
Now, we were pretty wise to this.
You go back all the way in the archives two years ago.
And we called BS on this pretty early.
We were against the lockdowns from the very beginning.
We were against the mandates.
We are on a very alone contrarian island, but it was actually good for our program, bad for the country, because we were one of the few programs that was talking about ending the lockdowns and ending the mandates.
And then, of course, Floyd Palooza happened after that in June when we decided to commit civilizational arson and burn down everything because systemic racism, I guess.
So, two years after the lockdowns, today, it's two years.
Are we richer?
Are we stronger?
Are we a better people?
Are we more unified?
No.
We are sicker.
We're more distracted.
We're more medicated.
We're more depressed.
We are less focused.
We're less entrepreneurial.
We are almost going through a midlife crisis, a middle-age syndrome, if you will, as a nation.
Don't really know where we came from.
Don't know where we're going.
The lockdowns will go down as one of the great mistakes in human history.
Had zero epidemiological benefit or advantage, according to a Johns Hopkins study.
Zero.
Yet we continued to do it.
We didn't learn anything from it.
Dissonant voices were kicked off of social media.
Doctors that dared go against the status quo were locked up and locked down.
And what did we learn from that?
We learned a lot.
But one of the things that we did learn that I think should be a takeaway, if we're serious about it, is mass hysteria usually is not rooted in truth.
Mass hysteria usually results in really bad decision making.
CNBC.com says a year later, Trump's 15 Days Slow the Spread campaign shows how little we knew about COVID.
No, we knew about this.
We were called conspiracy theorists, anti-science, and killers.
CNBC says that we didn't know how the virus spread.
Yes, we did.
We were just silenced.
It said that we didn't know what treatments could be used.
Yes, we did.
We were just silenced.
The two largest failings of the guidance were that if we didn't acknowledge that people without symptoms could spread the virus and didn't say anything about wearing masks, there was so much we didn't know about the disease at the time.
Dr. Leanna Wen said, yeah, she's a real gem.
There were two key elements in our scientific knowledge that we didn't fully understand.
One was the degree of asymptomatic transmission, which is nothing.
And two was the aerosols, how it's not just transmitted through people sneezing and coughing.
We were played for this civilizational game for two years.
We went on Steve Hilton's program and we said the cure cannot be worse than the disease.
And I can tell you, I don't rarely get nervous when I go on television, but I was nervous because that was a really contrarian take at the time.
Do you think it's hard right now to oppose military intervention in Ukraine?
This is a cakewalk compared to saying that we need to reopen the country against an invisible killer, a pathogen, and there might be a pill that could help you with it, and antiviral treatments might be able to help you navigate.
I mean, if you could survive being a lockdown critic, a vaccine skeptic, a COVID vaccine skeptic, I should say, or a mask skeptic and a anti-lockdown crusader, Ukraine is like, whatever.
And then you go from that into Floyd-Palooza, where everybody comes after you, and you double and triple down because you say America is actually not systemically racist.
And there's a black on black crime in America problem in America.
There's a fatherlessness problem in America.
In fact, we have an under-policing problem in America.
No one wants to hear that.
So I personally learned my takeaway is I'm not going to follow for the mass hysteria.
That the people that are wrong about everything and that are corrupt to the core and that I believe do not have the best interests of the country, that whenever they start to all start to say the same thing at the same time on all the news networks, yeah, I'm going to be really skeptical about something actually.
I'm going to take a step back.
When they get super enthusiastic about a certain cause, it usually isn't in the best interest of the country.
It's not like Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Adam Kinsley, or Lynn Cheney and Joe Biden and Jen Psaki and all them are saying, you know what?
We need border security.
We need border security.
They wouldn't say such a thing because it actually would benefit the country.
Two years ago, that famous speech was made.
Some people are now just wanting to go from one social cause to the other.
And the Operation Mockingbird media, they know exactly how to push the buttons of the American people.
They know how to motivate them.
You see, if you consume news and information actually the way that they design it through CNN or through the New York Times, you are clay for molding.
They want to mold you into a state of paranoia, a state of hyperaction.
They don't want you to be thankful.
They don't want you to be happy.
They don't want you to be prosperous or flourishing.
It's one of the reasons why I don't watch any of these networks.
I get my news through reading certain trusted sources, reading Timeless and Ancient Wisdom, thinking and praying and meditating, and then doing my program.
I watch Tucker Carlson, listen to a couple podcasts.
That's it.
That's all I watch.
And so what is the lesson we actually learned?
Where is the takeaway?
Do we have a commission report where we were able to say, wow, look at all the things we got wrong when we had this mass hysteria event that resulted in 800,000 people dead?
Are we now more or less likely to try to make similar mistakes now?
The BLM square, the virtue signaling square, the you must get vaccinated.
I'm going to change my selfie profile picture to wear a mask, all stands, sounds very similar to the hyper-aggressive posture that is now being gone to.
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We need to go get militarily involved in Ukraine.
It seems very similar, doesn't it?
It's all at this kind of like 10 out of 10 decibel level.
No nuance.
Do you notice that's kind of a characteristic of the new American dialogue or discourse?
There can be no introduction of facts that are against the regime.
Zero.
Like, hey, I got a question.
Hello.
When was the last time you mentioned the Azov Battalion?
Just asking for a friend.
And so I'm just, here's a question.
Azov Battalion is like 3,000 Nazis, 4,000 legitimate Nazis in Ukraine.
Why is Congress approving money that's going to go fund Nazis?
That's a legitimate thing.
Are we not allowed to say that?
No, sit down and shut up.
Get the vaccine.
Put the mask on.
Here's the BLM flag.
Do what you're told.
Okay, fine.
But we're not going to shut up.
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Cut 64, two years ago today, Mike Pence announcing 15 days to slow the spread.
Play Cut 64.
Nothing more important for the American people to do to slow the spread than to heed your state and local guidance in areas impacted by the coronavirus and for everyone else to put into practice the 15 days to slow the spread.
But it is, people ask me from time to time, what can I do?
And I say from my heart to every American, this is what you can do.
That was a mistake from the beginning.
We spoke out against it.
There was zero epidemiological reason or basis for it.
And what you saw was Anthony Fauci's hijacking of the American government.
We have right here the United States Constitution.
We have it somewhere.
The Constitution was supposed to prevent people like unelected bureaucrats like Anthony Fauci with unchecked power to be able to have unlimited authority to be able to lock down the American government.
Anthony Fauci, failing upwards his entire life two years ago today, pulled off a deep state miracle by him becoming the acting czar of the United States.
Sure, Donald Trump was still in charge of plenty of things, but basically, we delegated our power to the fourth branch of government in a way that created a damaging effect to our currency, to our borders, to our sovereignty, to our spiritual health, to our physical health, to our family health, only further encouraging congressional involvement to create $6 trillion out of thin air.
And the whole kind of moral thing, like the right thing to do is stay at home, there is zero epidemiological reason for that whatsoever.
We read from the New York Times article last week that showed that lockdowns, measures, and masks have zero impact.
In fact, blue states that did that are doing far worse than red states that have been completely and totally wide open.
You do not lock down and quarantine the healthy.
We knew that.
We pushed back against this from the very beginning.
And this is not an I told you so type thing.
It's not about that.
Instead, I'm saying, have we learned a lesson?
That's what I'm asking.
Are we going to be more or less likely to go into the next COVID they want us to get into?
Now, is that Ukraine?
I don't know.
Why Lockdowns Failed Everyone 00:03:53
Maybe it is.
Maybe it isn't.
Maybe they're completely different, or maybe they're exactly the same.
Cut 68.
Remember when CNN flipped out when Trump took his mask off after getting back to the White House?
Play Cut 68.
This is our first time.
Here it's going to come.
Here we go.
A very different message.
And you see him here.
He takes it off and he's getting ready for his pictures.
The flags flank him.
Right, Caitlin, this is what he did.
This is the moment.
This is what he produced it for.
He wants the image to be, I'm strong.
This virus is nothing.
His tweet today, feeling better than I did 20 years ago.
Don't be afraid of COVID.
Don't let it dominate your life.
There he is.
This is the image he wants.
What's wrong with that image?
That message should have been the message from the beginning.
Treatments, azithromycin, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, vitamin D levels, which we never talked about.
Fitness, not being fat, not overdrinking, getting proper sunlight, monoclonal antibodies, aspirin, all of these things, intravenous therapy, ozone therapy, all of these things have been proven to help with the treatment of COVID.
And yet, the media, they wanted hysteria.
I just ask you guys to think and reflect and pray.
If the media wanted hysteria then and they want it now, why are we still listening to them?
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With us right now is Congressman Thomas Massey.
I've known him for years, and his courage to speak out on the Ukrainian conflict has really struck me.
And I want him to explain that to our listeners and to maybe give another side that the corporate media isn't telling us.
Congressman, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Hey, thanks for having me on, Charlie.
I'd like to further memorialize this anniversary of 15 Days to Slow the Spread, if I may.
We are 102 weeks, $7 trillion, three jabs, two presidents, and a shredded constitution into slowing the spread as of today.
But I have good news for you, Charlie.
I attended the briefing from President Zelensky to members of Congress, and what I discovered is Zelensky ended COVID today.
We sat shoulder to shoulder, senators and representatives, in a crowded room, standing room only, no masks, no vaccine mandates, no testing, no social distancing, to listen to Zelensky today.
So I got to give him credit, he cured COVID.
Biolabs, NATO, and War Risks 00:11:44
It was the Zelensky vaccine, where all of a sudden all the measures just kind of went away.
So, Congressman, how should we think about the Ukrainian-Russian situation?
We're no fans of Vladimir Putin.
Obviously, it's evil what he's done to invade another country.
But what should the American response be?
It seems as if the drums of building a no-fly zone is almost overwhelming.
Why is that a bad idea?
Well, first of all, we shouldn't look at it as a custody battle between the European Union and a Soviet Union.
You know, if you're going to have geopolitical stability, probably Ukraine needs to be neutral and not be a satellite to either the Western countries or to Russia.
But that's up for them to decide, and we shouldn't be meddling in that.
Why is a no-fly zone bad?
It's a horrible idea.
People think, some people may think that a no-fly zone is like a gentleman's agreement between two countries.
I won't fly if you won't fly.
That is not what a no-fly zone means.
The no-fly zone that President Zelensky asked from Congress today would mean U.S. airmen or Army troops or Marines or Navy shooting down Russian planes.
And we should not be engaging another nuclear power in an air battle in Europe.
It's just, it's stupid.
It's beyond playing chicken with Vladimir Putin.
It's more like poking the bear.
And our job right now as responsible members of Congress should be, as your previous guest said, to de-escalate this situation.
This is not a global conflict, and we should try to keep it from becoming one.
So Congress just authorized $15 billion to go to Ukraine.
We don't really know where that money is going to go.
Is this a good idea?
Should the American government be involved in supplying arms to this murky conflict?
Yes, I looked at where that money's going.
Some of it's going to so-called humanitarian aid, but some of it also goes to NATO.
And my question that I asked yesterday is: when did we just accept the premise that conservatives in the United States should be subsidizing socialist governments in Europe?
We're subsidizing their military defense.
So, you know, I've got some colleagues here in Congress who say, well, we shouldn't be sending arms and money to Ukraine, but we should definitely send some more troops and some more arms over there to NATO.
And I'm like, wait, wait, wait.
That's a premise that nobody should accept, especially if you believe in free markets and individual liberty.
Why should we be subsidizing these governments that give handouts?
And frankly, they pay for abortions, public abortions in these countries.
Why are we sending them money to subsidize their defense?
And I'm talking about virtually every country in the European Union, not just NATO.
So you tweeted out, quote, one of the biggest con jobs ever pulled off, leftists and the military-industrial complex convincing conservatives to heavily subsidize the military defense of socialist countries, wake up Republicans, exactly what you just talked about.
But talk about the military-industrial complex.
Does it seem as if there is this kind of stumbling towards war?
I mean, this is a very serious thing.
What are your colleagues saying about this?
Because I would love, I've had open invitations many times to have these people on.
What does success look like at this point in Ukraine?
What is the off-ramp?
What is the way to peace?
Or are we now saying basically we're going to subsidize what is close to a border conflict civil war, a family dispute, for the foreseeable future?
Well, the military-industrial complex has lost some money here recently because the war in Afghanistan has been ended rather clumsily and negligently so by Joe Biden, but it was the right move to get troops out of there, not the way he did it.
But the military-industrial complex is going to need revenue to supplant that missing revenue.
And this is an opportunity for them.
Now, I don't think they want a global conflagration, but to have something simmering along for a long period of time would probably benefit them.
So you need to take the propaganda that you see with a grain of salt.
And by the way, that's what Zelensky was delivering today to members of Congress.
He addressed us with a small speech, and then he hit play on a video that was meant to play to the emotions of Congress.
And then he came back and reiterated his request for a no-fly zone and other measures of support from U.S. taxpayers.
So we just, you know, we've got to keep our boots off the ground in Ukraine, but we also have got to quit fantasizing that we could attack Russia or that even a NATO country could attack Russia, whether it's on the ground or in the air, and not have them retaliate and not draw the rest of the NATO countries into this conflict.
It just can't be done.
So stay out.
Don't fall prey to the propaganda and keep a level head.
That's my advice to my colleagues here.
Yeah, it seems as if you're in the vast minority, Congressman.
That's one of the reasons why we wanted to have you on this program, because, I mean, we have so many problems here at home.
We have domestic security issues on our southern border.
You know, in Kentucky, major fentanyl and drug overdose issues.
Our Constitution is basically becoming kind of an irrelevant relic at this point, which is our public health bureaucrats do whatever they want.
Can you help us kind of balance that?
Because some of our listeners are saying, look, we could do everything at once.
We should solve our own problems and also kind of, you know, go fight Russia.
Talk about how dangerous this is.
When we start to kind of stumble into these conflicts, then other really important domestic issues inevitably get put aside.
Well, yeah, this conflict now allows them to ignore virtually everything else that's going on.
My colleague Matt Rosendell was in that briefing from Zelensky.
And when it was over with, he leaned forward and he said, look, we lost like 100,000 people to overdoses last year, and much of that was due to fentanyl that's coming across the border.
Frankly, it's not possible for the media to concentrate or even look at more than one or two things at a time, and they're happy to ignore the other problems that we have.
Imagine this.
We're spending $15 billion in one fell swoop and one bill to protect Ukraine's border and the sovereignty of Ukraine, ostensibly.
And they couldn't even come up with $5 billion to fund the wall between us and Mexico when coming across that border is not just Mexicans, it's people from all over the country, some of whom are cartel members and terrorists.
So talk a little bit about this biolab situation.
Can you help us separate fact from fiction?
I asked because, I mean, you went to MIT, you have a background in engineering.
I think this is something that you have some sort of interest in.
You actually are better qualified to talk about than most.
Why were we involved in sending $200 million to Ukraine for these biolabs over the last 17 years?
They said it was to kind of like unwind the biolaboratories.
Based on what you're able to tell us that isn't classified, what's fact from fiction here?
Well, you know, just listen to Victoria Newland.
Here's somebody.
She was the deputy assistant or whatever.
She's the one who was caught on the phone calls saying F the EU when the United States under Obama was frankly trying to overthrow the government of Ukraine to get a more Western-friendly government.
She is literally part of the deep state, okay?
And she was asked by Marco Rubio in a Senate hearing, mind you, she was sworn in.
All these witnesses are sworn in.
They cannot lie.
And I don't think Rubio got the answer he was looking for.
He said, tell us there's not biolabs there.
And she says, well, actually, there are biolabs.
And we need to make sure that the Russians don't come into control of what was in those labs.
Okay.
There are two things there in her statement.
One, an acknowledgement that there were biolabs.
I got to admit, Charlie, you see so much stuff on the internet.
I hadn't even gone down that rabbit hole yet of the biolabs.
I saw it multiple times, and I didn't start paying attention until I saw Victoria.
I thought it was a little bit fringy.
I was like, yeah, whatever.
And then I was like, whoa.
Now we've got to pay attention because she is the one person who would know about this.
This would be her job to sort of monitor what's going on there and to encourage the government to do things for us.
And then the second acknowledgement: so the first acknowledgement was: yeah, there were biolabs.
Okay, maybe they were trying to work on a cure for the common cold.
Maybe they were working on a cure for cancer.
Who knows?
What are they doing in these biolabs?
But then she says, we've got to keep the Russians from coming into possession of what was in those biolabs.
Oh my gosh.
So I don't think these were COVID test kits in the bio labs that she's talking about.
So that's problematic.
Why would we be funding biolabs in Ukraine?
Why would we be funding biolabs in China?
You know, maybe it's because some of that research is outlawed here in the United States, or maybe we're trying to get plausible deniability over what was going on over there.
Yeah, and it's right on the Russian border, so it could have spewed into.
There's so many questions about this.
Just hard to process.
Finally, Congressman, before we let you go, and thank you for being generous with your time, talk about the bill you're proposing to try to have us not wear masks on airplanes.
If you get this done, you deserve a statue.
Well, we're fighting on all fronts here.
Rand Paul just got it passed in the Senate, and there were eight or nine Democrats that defected from Joe Biden.
It's called the Congressional Review Act, and it would undo something that was done in a regulatory nature.
Joe Biden threatened to veto that when he saw that it was gaining momentum in the Senate, yet still many Democrats defected from him.
We've got a similar bill here in the House that would institute the Congressional Review Act.
It would countermand Biden's mandate on airplanes.
But again, he's already threatened to veto it.
He has that power.
So we've got a backup plan that we just filed on Monday.
I got 16 of my colleagues, including Senator Rand Paul, to file a lawsuit against the CDC.
You know, the CDC is citing the same statute that they cited for the eviction moratorium, which the Supreme Court struck down this summer.
They're citing that very same statute to justify the masks on airplanes.
And what the Supreme Court did this summer is they narrowed what they thought that statute meant and what the CDC could do with that statute.
So we think that the Supreme Court has probably narrowed the definition enough that the masks fall outside of their jurisdiction.
And the second part of our lawsuit says: if banning masks or if requiring masks on airplanes falls within the jurisdiction of this statute, then the statute itself is unconstitutional because it violates the non-delegation principle, saying that we can't delegate lawmaking authority that broadly to administrative branches.
Congressman, you are fighting for liberty every single day, and I deeply appreciate that.
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And thank you for your courage and your prudent sort of analysis on what's happening in Ukraine and Russia.
It's refreshing.
So thank you so much.
We'll have you on again.
Thank you, Charlie.
Thank you for getting the word out there and motivating so many young people to start paying attention.
That's what we need to do.
Thank you so much, Congressman.
Talk to you soon.
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Thank you guys for all the wisdom.
Charlie, do you fear nuclear war?
Do you really fear Putin would dare launch a nuclear missile?
He knows that it would be a total destruction of Mother Russia.
He's aggressive, power-hungry, but he's not crazy.
So what do I fear?
I fear how incompetent, corrupt, and unable our leaders are to do very basic things.
And so, yes, I'm terrified of putting our current leaders in these situations.
I do not trust them at all.
And I know you don't either.
And that seems to be the point of agreement.
As I've been emailing back and forth to the hundreds of listeners that say, Charlie, we should get involved.
We should help.
I say, do you trust our leaders?
No, I don't.
Well, then why do you want to get involved?
You might want to, but then getting involved itself is a completely different question of the competency of the people in charge.
So do I fear things getting out of control?
Yeah, I do.
Of course I do.
With the current leadership class of Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin and Jake Sullivan, Kamala Harris, you trust Kamala Harris to solve this?
You trust Kamala Harris to go into it?
Because that really is the position of the Republican Party right now.
The position of the Republican Party is that we want to stand with Ukraine.
Therefore, we're going to go give a bunch of money so Mark Milley, Lloyd Austin, Jake Sullivan, Kamala Harris, and Joe Biden can be in charge.
I'm going to be on the side that they're likely to mess it up.
If Donald Trump was in charge, I would have a completely different perspective.
I would have trust and I would have faith that he'd be able to thread this needle and not pour gasoline on the fire.
So you might want to do something, but even if you want to do something, do you trust Kamala Harris to get that done?
Well, your Republican leaders have done that.
And if you are saying, I want to get involved in Ukraine, you have to deal with the team you have in front of you, right?
So I know a lot of you say, oh, well, I'm not talking about them.
Well, that's who's running your government right now.
So you have to deal with what it is, not what you want it to be.
So what you have right now is Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin that are going to be in charge of the defense appropriations of money into an active war combat zone with the Russian Federation and the Ukrainian people and Putin's immoral and illegal invasion of Ukraine.
Have you seen anything that has given you a shot of confidence to say they really can do that?
They're doing great.
I've seen the opposite.
I have seen chapter after chapter, moment after moment, and incident after incident of people at the top level of our government that do not have the ability to do complicated things.
Just because it feels good does not mean it's good foreign policy.
And trust me, my heart is with the people of Ukraine.
I think Putin is a scumbag.
I think he is evil.
In fact, I think he is satanically driven in this conquest of Ukraine.
I believe it's an unclean spirit.
All of those things we've said repeatedly.
The real question is, what do you do about it?
And then what do you do about it based on the players you have?
And you look at our roster right now, whoa.
Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Gen Saki, Mark Milley, Lloyd Austin.
Let's make sure they don't do anything important that could possibly unravel self-government and civil society as we know it.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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God bless.
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