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March 16, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Inflation, the Dollar, and the End of Pax Americana with Steve Cortes
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Ideological Alliances and New World Order 00:05:02
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So let's get into it.
I want to kind of play around with this whole kind of topic of the great reset.
Where does China play into this?
Where does George Soros play into this?
And kind of this new world order that is trying to be ushered in.
I think there's a lot there that we could kind of unpack together.
And then I'd love to get Steve's thoughts on this.
So I want to start with this clip here, Cut 6, where CNN host says that we're entering a post-American era under Biden.
Play Cut 6.
One of the defining features of the new era is that it is post-American.
By that, I mean that the Pax Americana of the past three decades is over.
You can see signs of this everywhere.
He's not wrong.
Frid Zakari is wrong about a lot.
He's not wrong about this.
And so this is, look, on our program, we are not ideological when it comes to foreign policy.
We're certainly ideological on some things.
Not on foreign policy, though.
We're very ideological on gender policy, wouldn't you say, Connor?
And on pro-life, I'd say.
So, but when it comes to foreign policy, we want what's best for America.
Real politic.
And so, in certain places, I could see a prudent argument for America to police shipping lanes.
I think that's actually a good argument.
We're not isolationist.
I can't stand people that immediately default towards ideology when it comes to foreign policy.
I think that's the worst, actually.
If I were to try to say, what would the worst category to be ideological in, it would be foreign policy.
And here's why.
You're dealing with separate actors, incentives, impulses.
You're dealing with moving targets.
You're dealing with unlikely alliances.
So let me give you an example: why ideology is so dangerous when it comes to foreign policy.
Okay, let's say that we sit in a room and we say, under no circumstances whatsoever will we ever get into an alliance with a communist dictator.
Good rule, right?
Great rule.
I think it looks great on paper.
So let's just write that down, right?
We're all in a room.
We say, this is our ideology.
We hate communism.
We hate dictators.
No alliances with communist dictators.
And we all say, yeah, that's right.
Okay.
Do you get an alliance with Joseph Stalin to defeat Hitler?
Your rule says you can't do that.
Real politics says what's best for the civilization.
Do you ally with an evil to defeat a greater evil?
The answer is yes.
That was the right decision, by the way, coming in alliance with the Soviets.
So you can have principles, and the principles, by the way, should mainly guide to how you treat other humans, basically how you combat, how you interact with war, in war.
But unfortunately, sometimes those rules have to be bent or broken.
So for example, one of the rules would be, we do not like bombing civilian centers.
Good rule, right?
Well, Winston Churchill, after London was bombed relentlessly, firebombed Dresden.
That's highly controversial, by the way.
There's a lot of different, there's a lot of different accounts on the fire burning of Dresden of whether or not it was intentional or not.
The point is this, is you must be non-ideological when you look at foreign policy.
That ideology can be one of the most dangerous of all of the precepts that one has when they approach these sorts of decisions.
Okay.
So Farid Zakaria, who I disagree with on almost everything, actually has a pretty smart take here, where he says that the Russian invasion of Ukraine marks the end of one age and the beginning of another.
This is a pretty insightful point.
Soros Metaphysics and Foreign Policy Shifts 00:02:21
Play cut 50.
This war marks the end of an age.
But what can we say about the new one we are entering?
Most important, it is marked by the triumph of politics over economics.
One of the defining features of the new era is that it is post-American.
By that, I mean that the Pax Americana of the past three decades is over.
Okay, but essentially this, is that the impact will be felt globally for the big changes in a post-American world.
Who wants a post-American world?
And who's been fiddling around in Ukraine for quite a while?
Well, many of you have been familiar in one way, shape, or form with the name George Soros.
George Soros has a very interesting metaphysical viewpoint.
He does not believe there is a God, and if there was a God, he believed it was him.
When I speak at a church, I say, look, we might have our own theological approaches to things, but we all agree on two things.
There is a God, and we are not him.
Those are the two most important things that I believe we could teach a young person.
And that is the two things that they teach evangelistically the opposite on a college campus.
They say there is no God, and if there was a God, it would be you.
Here's a little bit of a 60 minutes tape on George Soros.
Now, before I go any further, I do not know Hebrew that well, but I know enough of Hebrew where Soros means stones in Hebrew.
In fact, specifically, it means shaky rocks.
Soros means on, let's say, the ground of which the horses or the mules used to get there, or donkeys used to get their hooves stuck and they would break.
Soros is a synonym in Hebrew for trouble.
George Soros, George Trouble, speaks about Ukraine and his belief or lack thereof of God in Play Cut 28, which, by the way, this is one of the hardest clips to find on the internet.
One of our friends found this clip from Chicago.
Thank you for that.
Play tape.
If I weren't there, of course I wasn't doing it.
But somebody else would be taking it away anyhow.
In other words, whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator.
The property was being taken away.
So I had no role in taking away that property.
So I had no sense of guilt.
Biblical Investing and Hebrew Meanings of Trouble 00:03:34
Are you religious?
No.
Do you believe in God?
No.
Soros told us he believes God was created by man, not the other way around, which may be why he thinks he can smooth out the world's imperfections.
When we went with him to Ukraine, he was treated like a visiting head of state and was received by the president.
Then he was received by the prime minister and finally the central bank.
20% in cash.
They even allowed him to look at the books and asked him for advice.
Lots of people want George Soros' advice.
Most recently, South African President Nelson Mandela.
They asked George Soros for financial advice.
They let the Ukrainian central bank sits down with George Soros and opens up the book.
That's an interesting little wrinkle in all this, isn't it?
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With us right now is a very smart and great patriot who has been predicting the inflation crisis for quite some time.
He's an economic analyst, but also a former Trump advisor, senior advisor.
The president thinks very highly of him.
He's a Chicagoan or was a Chicagoan until he probably fled to a nicer state.
Steve Cortez, Steve, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
I appreciate it, Charlie.
I did indeed flee like you.
I am a refugee from the Blue States.
Now I live in Tennessee, a place that is wonderful.
Inflation Crisis and Economic Manipulation 00:15:55
I'm sad to have to leave Chicago.
I raised a family in the city for 25 years, but it just became to me untenable.
Thankfully, I had options.
I know a lot of people don't have options there.
And anyway, it's good to be in Red America, but I still care very, very deeply about what goes on in our common home state of Illinois and what's happening in Chicago.
And I try to warn America, by the way, that I think a lot of what's happened in Chicago should serve as a political carry in the canary in the mind, warning America of what the Democrats will do nationwide if we allow them to.
That is so right.
I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago, Wheeling, Arlington Heights area.
You know it well.
I still consider Chicago to be my home.
And it's just unrecognizable now when I fly in.
It just is in so many ways.
It's tragic.
Chicago was, in my opinion, the great American city.
It was second city to none in so many ways, but we could talk about that at great length.
So, Steve, you've been predicting about stagflation for quite some time.
This is a shorter segment before we can really dive into it.
Tell us what we know about inflation, what is causing it, and then we'll talk about what Americans can do about it, but go from there.
Sure.
And by the way, I take no pleasure in being correct and being prescient on this topic, but literally since the day of the election, November of 2020, and certainly once we got a clearer picture of what Biden was going to do with a Democratic Congress into early 2021, I've been trying to ring this alarm bell for all of America.
That's something we have not really dealt with in this country in 40 years, since the late 70s and early 1980s, that inflation was on the way.
I frankly didn't know that it would get this bad this fast.
The most recent data we got out was the producer price index.
Prices at the wholesale level rose 10%.
That is the worst ever on record.
Of course, producer prices, Charlie, very soon become consumer prices.
And the consumer price index is also terrible at 7.9%, a 40-year record and rising.
I think inflation, in fact, is even higher than that.
And I won't bore the audience with all the details of why, but we used to formulate it a different way.
We would already have double-digit consumer price inflation if we used the old formula.
But even using the government's figures, we're still at a 40-year worst record for soaring prices in this country.
It's terrible for all of the economy.
It's terrible for all Americans, but it's, of course, most damaging to the people who can least afford it, middle and lower income folks.
And their costs right now for apartment rents, for gasoline, for food, they are all soaring.
And it's not circumstance.
It's not bad luck.
It's not the business cycle.
It's not Vladimir Putin.
It is because of the policy choices of Joe Biden, with unfortunately some complicity from some Republican senators who I view as really political collaborators with their participation as well.
But this is because of policy failures that we are dealing with an inflationary spiral for the first time in over a generation in this country.
Yeah, I think inflation is closer to 25 to 30%.
And I could prove it.
I mean, rents in Phoenix alone are going up $800 to $1,000 a month.
Everything is double-digit increase.
Housing in Phoenix is up 75% over the last two years.
So I don't want to hear any more of this 7%.
And we don't calculate the same.
The way we calculate inflation is a con.
But the problem is that, okay, inflation's bad.
But if we had like 4% to 5% inflation, but 6% growth, you can manage that.
But we're seeing the opposite, right?
Steve, walk us through that.
No, that's exactly right.
So what matters the most is real wages.
I mean, look, inflation is always a dangerous, dangerous dance partner, right?
Even in the best of times.
But if wages are exceeding, wage growth is exceeding the growth of inflation, then you have positive real wage growth, meaning what actually matters to your life.
Can you buy more?
Are you getting more prosperous?
And by the way, we had that in spades during the Trump presidency, particularly the year 2019, massive increases in real wage growth.
We now have under Biden, 12 consecutive months of declining real wages.
So you have to work harder just to stay in the same place.
If we accept the government's number, that's 7.9%.
If we put that in perspective, that means a full month of your wages is gone because it's just about exactly mathematically a 12th of your total wages.
Literally the month of March, your wages have disappeared because of Biden's inflation.
Let's put it in that practical term.
Steve, I'm really interested in what you said earlier.
And we like to go a level deeper here, not just kind of stay at the surface.
How did we change the calculation of inflation?
Whose idea was that?
I'm just really fascinated by that.
Right.
Well, it was a lot of leftist economists, quite frankly.
It was their idea to try to make inflation look less damaging than it, in fact, is to regular Americans.
And here's like many distortions, right, from the left and from academia.
There's a kernel of truth there that was manipulated.
The kernel of truth is that you shouldn't price something apples to apples if the good has materially changed and improved.
What I mean by that, let's take the example of a cell phone, right?
So a flip phone compared to a current smartphone.
There's really no comparison, right?
And so the current smartphone costs more, but it's also massively more productive.
And for some people, it may have even replaced your laptop.
So it costs more, but that should be your camera, correct, correct?
Your watch, whatever it is.
So that should be factored in.
So there's validity to that line of thinking, right?
But it also opens the door to all kinds of abuse.
And that's what unfortunately did indeed happen, which is why, by the way, I'm glad you brought up the idea of rents because there, let's face it, apartments haven't really changed very much, right?
I mean, there are certain accoutrements that are different, but in general, living space is living space, right?
And so it's a much more constant apples to apples comparison.
And when we look at apartment rents to this point of I think inflation is vastly higher than the government statistics.
Again, even the government statistics are incredibly damning in and of themselves.
But let's talk about apartments because on apartments in 2018 and 2019, the two pre-COVID years under Donald Trump, even though we had surging real incomes in this country, apartment rents, according to apartmentlist.com, went up 2% and 3%.
Very contained increases there.
In the year 2020, not surprisingly with the lockdowns, went down, but went down very slightly, didn't crash slightly below zero.
So you had three years in a row of basically low single-digit increases on average for apartments.
2021, with Joe Biden in charge, with the exorbitant borrowing and spending that he and Nancy and Chuck embarked upon, plus war on American Energy, plus onerous mandates, which really in many ways bottlenecked the supply chain in this country and also forced inflation higher.
What happened to apartment prices?
Up 18% for the year.
Now, that's on a nationwide basis in a lot of hot parts of the country.
You mentioned Phoenix certainly being one of them, much more than that.
30% plus average apartment increases in some of the hotter areas, metro areas of the country, 18% overall.
And here's the thing, too, Charlie: those price increases are incredibly sticky.
And what I mean by that is once they go up, they almost never go back down.
It's extremely rare for a landlord to lower apartment rates.
It just almost never happens.
And not only that, but you agree to pay for an extended period of time.
Almost all apartment leases are a year, if not even longer.
So unlike food and energy, which can be volatile, rental prices are sticky.
They're real.
I think it's a better apples to apples comparison to look historically.
So the reality is, even by the government's reckoning, we have double-digit inflation right now, by the experiences of millions of citizens, we know that it's worse than that.
In fact, and here's the worst news of all, Charlie, and why I want to give a call to action though, not just curse the darkness, but also light the candle.
It's going to get worse unless we do something.
And we can't wait until November to elect the right people in 2022.
That's important, but we've got to put pressure on these feckless, coward Senate Republicans right now because they keep facilitating, they keep acting as political collaborators and allowing this borrowing and spending to continue.
They just did it with another trillion and a half dollar discretionary budget that included, by the way, $14 billion for Ukraine to defend their border when we're not defending our own border in the United States.
And while Americans are literally suffering to try to simply pay bills, and here's another point I think is crucial: how have Americans managed this pricing, these price increases so far?
The data show us, unfortunately, they've largely done it through credit card borrowing.
Now, it's understandable, but it's also very regrettable.
And it's a very short-term solution that makes the long-term problem even worse.
Credit card debt and credit card originations to subprime borrowers have exploded in recent months.
I've done some of my chalk talks recently on the data, the numbers of this exact phenomenon.
So I fear that while the inflation gets worse, the scenario also gets worse for working class people.
So things are likely to get worse before they get better.
But one way to make them get better is to pressure the spineless Republicans.
I'm talking about people like Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham to finally act like they have power in the United States Senate because they do.
Yeah, that probably won't happen.
Probably not.
I agree.
We should keep the pressure on them.
Yeah, the worst thing about credit card debt is it's by definition, it depreciates with value, right?
So it's the worst kind of debt you could have.
Student loan debt's bad, but if you did it to educate your, I mean, I'm not a fan of it, obviously.
Medical debt, I mean, I guess you're alive.
That's good.
House, you know, the entire tax structure is built around a mortgage debt.
There could be some very positives around, especially if the value goes up.
But if it's like Christmas gifts and you forget where they, you know, what they are 90 days later and you still have the debt burden alongside of it, it's very, very dangerous for an economic model.
So yeah, let's get into it.
So like what are the Senate Republicans supposed to do?
They don't do much of anything except go saber-rattle with Ukraine or whatever, you know, the newest thing we're supposed to get super outraged about.
Meanwhile, Americans are getting destroyed financially.
So I'm afraid they're not going to do it, Steve.
We're going to run out of time and we're going to see that 25 to 30% inflation.
No, listen, I do worry.
You know, if I had to wager on it, I would bet on your prognostication being correct, that they will remain spineless.
They will continue to act as a Washington uniparty rather than advocating for their constituents as they should.
By the way, we see, for example, even in deeply red states, for example, in this recent budget that was passed, the states of Alabama and Mississippi about as red as they get.
All four senators from those two states, Republican senators, voted in favor of this obscene budget, which again included $14 billion for Ukraine.
It's not that consequential financially, but it sure is symbolically, at least to people like me.
But here's what I think can be done then, bigger picture, if we are unable to pressure the Senate Republicans into doing the right thing, is we need to elect the right candidates who don't just have an R after their name, but are truly American first and are truly economic nationalists when it comes to fighting inflation.
How do we do that?
Well, the first thing is, first answer is relatively simple, which is stop the borrowing and spending, right?
It's just, it's reached such exorbitant levels that it's totally unsustainable.
The second may not be as obvious, but I think it's critical.
And that is get control of the border.
Because right now, in a time where real wages are crashing in this country, the worst possible idea, Charlie, is to entice in millions of illegal new workers to unfairly and unlawfully compete in the labor market against Americans depressing wages.
So it's not only important as a matter of justice and a matter of national security, but I believe it's also an economic prosperity issue to get control of our border.
So those are some of the policy solutions.
And then there's also, as you mentioned, this bigger issue of the dollar.
And I am extremely worried that a century, it's literally been a century that the dollar has been the reserve currency of the world, a century of the primacy of king dollar is very much at risk right now because of the policy failures and because of, frankly, the outright lies that the Biden administration is inflicting upon the United States and insists on inserting itself into what should be a regional conflict in Ukraine and is using the dollar in unprecedented ways as a weapon of war.
We really are, we are waging economic war against Russia and not against Putin and the oligarchs, but against the people of Russia right now.
We're using unprecedented, never-before-used, utilized tactics to do it.
We are successfully collapsing the ruble right now, which I think is incredibly dangerous.
But the point is, it also has dangers for the United States.
And as you mentioned, we right now have alliances forming, which could be extremely troublesome for the United States dollar.
For example, Saudi Arabia and China, according to Wall Street Journal reporting, the first foreign visit for Xi since the CCP virus outbreak from Wuhan, he has not left the country.
The first foreign visit is going to be to Riyadh.
And the Saudis have at least signaled that they are going to start accepting payment in Yuan in the Chinese currency for oil.
Now, some folks out there might say, well, why does that matter to me?
I'm not that concerned with foreign affairs.
Matters to every American because the status of king dollar as the reserve currency for the world has allowed us, in a sense, to get away with, to finance the nightmare deficits that we have run for a long time in this country and to do it with maintaining low inflation until Biden took office.
So we might now see a double whammy.
His domestic policies are enticing, are really inflaming inflation in a market way in this country.
If you combine that with a loss of confidence in the dollar, and if foreign investors no longer clamor to hold dollars as they have for a century, and they price our debt in a more sort of market-oriented way, we can become Argentina in a hurry.
And I'm sure a lot of people think I'm exaggerating, but look, Argentina was once a very wealthy country, as wealthy as the United States, if not more so, a century ago.
And they have had basically a century of economic misery.
Don't think it can't happen here.
Maintaining king dollar should be first and foremost on the minds of our economic leaders.
Unfortunately, like so many of their mistakes that put America last, they leave the dollar for last.
Yeah, I mean, the dollar very well could collapse the world reserve currency.
And the petrodollar and the world order that we currently live under is really dependent on the full faith and credit of the United States.
A lot of people don't have full faith in the United States right now.
Our borders are wide open.
Our military is teaching CRT and woke nonsense, and there's no deterrence that are happening.
So let me just kind of close with this, Steve.
Philosophically, the conservative movement seems fractured on the Ukrainian thing.
We've made the argument that this is actually this regional conflict could unfold into a financial Pearl Harbor that could destroy the U.S. dollar.
How should we think as supporters of Trump about this Ukrainian-Russian situation?
You know, putting aside that this shouldn't have happened and it wouldn't happen under Trump, what should we do about it?
Because it seems that the Uniparty says 15 billion isn't enough.
We need a no-fly zone.
What's your perspective here?
Listen, we should be promoting de-escalation right now.
There's not a vital U.S. national interest in Ukraine.
There simply is not.
This is an ancient enmity.
This is a regional struggle of over borders that have moved significantly over time and frankly, which are none of our business and really should not be our concern.
We have started, here's what I really hope people can grasp and realize: whether you like it or not, you are already a combatant in this struggle because we are waging full-on economic war against Russia.
We have essentially debanked the entire country, 150 million people, something we have never done before.
It was not even done to the Nazis, as atrocious as they were.
We didn't even do this to them in World War II.
Now, the foreign policy establishment believes that they can compel regime change within Russia.
I think that's an incredibly dangerous game that has backfired on us numerous times, even just in recent years.
But regardless of whether or not that occurs, the financial war, the money bomb that we have already unleashed to me is incredibly dangerous.
And it's already inflicting pain upon the Russian people.
It is very likely to have serious fallout and ramifications for the United States.
So my proposal is de-escalation.
Let's stop.
Right now, we're funding both sides of this war.
How about instead we pressure both sides to come to negotiate?
Dangerous Financial Wars and Regime Change 00:06:57
That's exactly right.
And how about we preserve the dollar so that we don't destroy our economy or that we don't allow the Saudis and the Chinese to get close to one another?
And the Iran deal is playing right into that.
But that's way too complex for the foreign policy establishment that's too worried about the next tweet they have to send.
Steve Cortez, Trump advisor, great friend, and does a wonderful job.
Thank you so much, Steve.
Thank you, Charlie.
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The United States Senate has finally done something meaningful.
The U.S. Senate has finally done something I approve.
This shouldn't have taken so long, but it's finally done.
The United States Senate has passed the Sunshine Protection Act by unanimous consent to make daylight savings times permanent.
I'm not a fan of daylight savings time.
Falling back, springing forward should just remain the same time throughout the entire year.
In fact, we should spring forward even more so that the fall, it's the opposite.
I never understood that in the most depressing time of weather, we also made it darker intentionally.
Who thought of this thing?
Makes zero sense.
Now, I know you're going to say it's Benjamin Franklin and all this.
No way.
He was too smart for this.
I think it's a Nicole Hannah-Jones conspiracy against Benjamin Franklin.
There's no way.
A 2015 study published in Sleep Medicine.
Researchers compared the rate of strokes during the week after daylight saving to the week two weeks after the two weeks before.
They found the rate of 8% higher the first two weeks after the shift, and people with cancer were 25% more likely to have a stroke later than the other times of the year.
People over 65 were 20% more likely.
A 2019 report found a higher risk of heart attack after both time changes, but particularly during daylight savings times.
Interruptions to circadian rhythm can also impair focus and judgment.
A 2020 study found fatal traffic accidents increased by 6% in the United States during daylight savings time.
This shouldn't have taken so long, but it did.
And the U.S. Senate has finally done something useful.
Okay, I want to get to some other tape here.
There's so many other stories that we can get to.
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Okay, let's go to Cut 38.
Biden says, I'm sick of this stuff.
The American people think the reason for inflation is government spending more money?
Simply not true.
Oh, really?
This is Biden's new messaging campaign.
Play Cut 38.
I'm sick of this stuff.
We have to talk about it because the American people think the reason for inflation is government spending more money.
Simply not true.
So we're spending $2.6 trillion that we do not have.
80% of all dollar bills ever in circulation were created in the last two years.
We have a $7 trillion debt burden that was added onto our already $23 trillion debt in the last two years, and none of that has had a net zero impact of inflation.
That's Joe Biden's new messaging campaign.
Good luck.
Janet Yellen says we're likely to see another year in which 12-month inflation numbers remain very high.
Play cut one.
I don't want to make a prediction exactly as to what's going to happen in the second half of the year.
You know, we're likely to see another year in which 12-month inflation numbers remain very uncomfortably high.
And then Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell says that it's possible to have more than one reserve currency.
Why would he be saying that?
Because inflation numbers are so high that the U.S. dollar is eating itself.
It's destroying itself.
You want to destroy Western values as the great reset predicted by 2030?
You want to deteriorate American exceptionalism?
You want to make America no longer the envy of the world?
Well, then break the back of the medium of exchange of the civilization you're trying to crush.
Play Cut 58.
Over time, the question is, if some want to move away from the dollar, what will be the effect on us?
I don't think it's something you would feel right away.
There wouldn't be any short-term effect of that.
Over time, though, you know, it would, I suppose, it would diminish our status as the reserve currency.
It's also possible to have more than one large reserve currency.
Well, of course, it's possible.
Is that the best thing for the country, though?
Is he the central bank of the world or the Central Bank of America?
The entire creation of the Federal Reserve, there's a great book called The Creature of Jekyll Island.
If you guys ever want to go deep into the actual creation of the Federal Reserve, Jekyll Island, I believe, is a vacation spot north of Sea Island, Georgia, on the southeast coast, not far from Savannah, Georgia.
You can add that into the pile of useless information that suddenly became useful.
The Creature of Jekyll Island is a great book about the illegal and unconstitutional creation of the central bank, the Federal Reserve.
Who does he work for exactly?
Why does he have the power to destroy your currency?
Founding Fathers never anticipated an unchecked central bank.
In fact, that's a great topic for a future hour.
The old debate about the central bank, it now resurrects itself today as the dollar is eating itself because our leaders seem to want it to bring in the great reset.
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