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Feb. 28, 2022 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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EXCLUSIVE: President Trump Sounds Off on Putin, Biden, Ukraine, 2024 and MORE
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Civilization Needs A Leader 00:14:47
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It is amazing the contrast between what we are seeing right now from the Biden regime and very well what could have been a much more, let's just say, if those four years would have been allowed to play out, another four years just would have been so different.
And it's interesting, you know, I wrote the book, The MAGA Doctrine, The Only Ideas That Will Win the Future, and went through in great detail the foreign policy perspective of President Trump, which was more than just peace through strength.
It was peace through prudence and also was a willingness and a, let's say, capacity to hold our adversaries accountable and also to be in great alliance with the true partners that we have.
It's a great honor to have with us right now the 45th president of the United States.
And boy, do we miss him seeing what's happening in our country and across the world, President Donald Trump?
Mr. President, welcome back to the program.
Hi, Charlie.
How are you?
Doing very well.
And boy, I wish you were president right now.
We got a mess on our hands.
Well, we shouldn't have had this.
It would have never happened, Charlie.
I think you knew that just about better than anybody, but it would have never happened.
And it would have never happened for a lot of reasons.
Number one, Putin wouldn't have done it.
But also, we had the greatest oil and gas machine ever created.
We were larger than we became larger than Saudi Arabia and Russia.
We were going to be more than double the combined size of both.
And if Russia did do that, we would have been selling Europe and everybody else in the world oil.
And we would have been the ones.
And he wouldn't be making the profits on it, which is, you know, which is really funding his war machine.
We would have been making the profits on a mistake that he would have made.
I don't think, number one, it wouldn't have happened, but number two, we would have been, we were energy independent, as you know very well, and we would have been even beyond that.
We would have been, this would have been one of the great things ever, ever devised.
And now I watch these people, these green energy people, and I'm all for the environment.
You know that better than anybody.
I'm all for the environment.
But I watch Kerry and all these people say, oh, this is a great time for green energy.
This country is being destroyed systematically by people that don't know what they're doing.
It's so hard to watch.
And so, you know, you were accused through the Russia hoax, the great hoax of our generation of somehow being in bed with Putin.
But actually, you were harsher towards Putin and Russia than your predecessor and certainly this current administration.
But you got along well with Putin.
You said just right now, he wouldn't have done this when you were president.
Why was that the case?
He would have never done it.
He understood the consequences if he did it, and he would have never done it.
And he also would have never done it because I had oil so low.
You know, oil was down at $40 a barrel, and it was $1.87 at the pump for gasoline.
And he would have, there would just, it would not have fueled.
You know, this is a very unusual situation because the worse he makes the world, the more money they're making.
Think of that.
There's never been anything like that because if countries go to war, they kill a lot of people and they also lose a lot of money and a real bad thing, real bad combination.
But here's a case where the worse the world becomes because they're such a big supplier and they become much bigger because of the United States not being essentially active in the business anymore, you know, relatively speaking.
But think of it.
The worse the world becomes, the higher the energy costs go.
I mean, I heard somebody say $250 a barrel today.
Now, I don't know if they're right or wrong, but it was down at less than $40.
I mean, I had it down in the 20s for a while, but I had to raise it because, frankly, the energy companies were losing their shirt.
And so was Russia and Saudi Arabia, by the way.
Everybody was.
And I got it up.
But I had it at $40 a barrel.
Now it's, I mean, they're projecting pretty quickly $150.
And the gasoline is $7 in California and going higher.
I remember being there in the White House and the great Harold Hamm came in and he was begging you, we got to get that price of oil up.
But you were always looking out for the consumer.
And you also understood the geopolitical implications of what expensive oil would mean.
I want to shift gears for a second, Mr. President.
You gave a great speech this weekend at CPAC, and you won the CPAC straw poll.
Congratulations with 59% and you cleared the entire field.
Are you closer to making another decision to running in 2024?
Well, you know, I've endorsed a lot of candidates, 30-something candidates in Texas.
We have a big primary coming up tomorrow, as you know, a big election tomorrow.
That'll be very interesting to see what happens.
But endorse a lot of good candidates, and I'll be endorsing a lot.
The endorsement has been rather amazing, to put it broadly.
I don't think it's, I know it has never happened before.
When we endorse somebody, they essentially just win.
And it happened just recently, as you know, with Congress in Ohio, somebody that people didn't know too much about, a very, very good guy.
And he ended up, as you know, he ended up winning the race very substantially.
And that's happened many, many times.
So that's important.
But probably after the election, probably after the November election, we'll do it the midterms, as they call them.
And I think people will be very happy.
I might decide before, to be honest with you.
Sometimes I look at what's going on in this country and I just say, how can we wait?
And, you know, some very big things are coming out that people say, oh, think to the future.
Some people, some people don't want you to do that at all.
They want you to find out what happened because this is a rigged election, 100% rigged election.
And that's why we have all these problems.
Think of it.
We wouldn't have inflation because we had no inflation.
We had a great stock market.
We had a great economy.
We had great everything.
And none of these things would have happened, including the Ukraine war.
We'd have a strong border.
The border is really going to be one of our big problems because we have not 3 million people.
But we have 10 million people came in since the election, since the takeover.
And it's going to be a big problem.
We're going to be living with that problem for a long time, Charlie.
I was in Yuma.
I saw your wall a couple weeks ago, and I saw the steel just totally rusting that you ordered, and Biden refuses to put any of it.
It's a disgrace to our country.
It really, really is.
We're supposed to be painting it.
It was supposed to be painted, and it would have been, we would have had it finished in three to four weeks, completed, then gets painted, and it's rusting.
It's rusting now.
They don't want to paint it.
And they didn't want to put up the few sections remaining.
They didn't want to put them up.
In fact, they won't let Texas use them either.
They took them away.
They put them someplace.
So, which means they seriously don't want to build a wall.
So anyway, no, this is exactly what Border Patrol wanted.
They wanted steel, concrete inside the steel, rebar inside the concrete.
They wanted to have visibility.
You know, they want to have visibility through.
I thought we'd do concrete plank, but they wanted to have the visibility and they wanted the steel and concrete.
So we gave them everything they wanted.
And now I see it's rusting because they don't want to paint it.
Steel can last for a thousand years, but you have to put something on top of it.
And it's just a disgrace.
Mr. President, I want to be respectful of your time.
You have a new book out, Our Journey Together, available on 45books.com.
That's 45books.com.
Tell us a little bit about it.
Well, it's a book that really is based on pictures and lovely times.
You know, we had a lot of hoaxes, but we had a tremendous success in the White House.
And people see what's happening now and they want it back.
And it's really lots of pictures and statements under the pictures handwritten.
And people are loving it.
And it's doing unbelievable business.
And it's really a picture.
I think they want the romance of it.
They want it back when they see what's happening now.
It's an incredible book.
Everyone can check it out.
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Mr. President, thank you for joining us today.
And we look forward to your announcement.
Our country and our entire civilization needs a leader.
Thank you.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks, Charlie.
Talk to you soon.
Thank you so much.
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I want to play some sound here from Trump's speech at CPAC over the weekend.
Let's play cut one.
Joe Biden has turned calm into chaos, competence into incompetence, stability into anarchy, and security into catastrophe.
The Russian attack on Ukraine is appalling.
It's an outrage and an atrocity that should never have been allowed to occur.
It never would have occurred.
Now, cut two, it's not coming in the news cycle every single day, or it's not being shown on the news cycle every single day.
There's a trucker convoy heading across America, and President Trump has now signaled total and complete endorsement and support of the American truckers.
If he continues on this message of standing against medical fascism and medical totalitarianism, he's going to be very tough to beat in a general election.
I think this is a bridge and unifying issue.
Play cut two.
We stand with the truckers and we stand with the Canadian people in their noble quest to reclaim their freedom.
Right here in our own nation, it's also far past time to declare independence from every last COVID mandate.
It's time.
It's time.
I called President Trump the bodyguard of Western civilization back in my RNC speech that kicked off the Republican National Convention in the summer of 2024.
The media collectively lost their mind, obviously.
However, it was true.
You can't defend Western civilization if you'd not be able to defend your own civilization.
And that means we need borders that work, elections that are fair and free, and not rigged, and must be immediately stopped in our cities.
So there are three ways the world can go.
We can go the way of Russian Chinese authoritarianism.
We can go the way of World Economic Forum woke unlimited genders, men can become pregnant, borderless, and American dollar currency collapse.
Or we can reassert the West.
The blend of antiquity and modernity.
You see, Russia does not believe that modernity has much to offer at all.
They believe that 14th century way of government is the only way.
And look, I think there's a lot of wisdom from things that happened in the 13th and 14th century, obviously.
But there's a combination between the ancient and the modern, and America at its best has always been able to strike that balance.
Play cut three.
You can't defend Western civilization if you would not be able to defend your own civilization.
And that means we need borders that work, elections that are fair and free and not rigged, and crime that must be immediately stopped in our cities.
The crime issue is an issue that we don't spend enough time on, to be perfectly honest.
But the rise in crime rates, the deterioration of the American cities, the collapse of law and order.
And just here in Arizona, I mean, I'm hearing stories of people getting mugged and cars being broken into.
I don't know if crime is up or down in Arizona, but I do know anecdotally, it certainly there's more conversation and more chatter around crime than I've seen in any other time before.
So Joe Biden is giving his State of the Union address tomorrow, and he's nowhere to be found, nowhere to be seen.
Instead of trying to manage and broker peace in Europe, he's at his home in Delaware doing what I don't know.
I don't think he knows.
He'll be addressing a joint session of Congress in a State of the Union address.
So we'll be looking at that.
January 6th Justice Delayed 00:14:23
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We'll see.
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In the New York Times, they have this condescending article about why Vladimir Putin is awful because he has political prisoners like Aleski Navalani.
I agree, political prisoners are awful.
To put people in solitary confinement or kill people because they have differences of opinion is evil.
But what if I told you our own government is doing that?
In fact, they continue to do that.
While the entire world and nation is focused on a border dispute 5,000 miles away, Putin's war, which should not happen, and he should be held accountable for that, why aren't we concerned about the political prisoners in our prisons that are also taking their own lives?
Julie Kelly is the author of a phenomenal book called January 6th: How the Democrats Use the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right.
Julie joins us again.
Julie, welcome back to the program.
Hey, Charlie, thank you so much for having me.
So, Julie, is it fair to say that these are political prisoners that are being held without bail?
And just walk us through the update of that and then kind of give us the breaking news that happened the last 24 hours, one of the defendants committing suicide.
So, Charlie, the Biden Justice Department has sought what's called pretrial detention for at least 100 people charged for any involvement in what happened on January 6th.
What pretrial detention means is that they ask a judge to deny bail, to consider this suspect or this defendant so dangerous to the community or flight risk, they have to stay behind bars awaiting trial.
So, in over 100 cases, they've sought this pretrial detention and they have gotten it for federal judges, all the way from Trump judges down to Reagan judges, if you can believe they're still on the bench.
So, these people are being held simply because they protested Joe Biden's election.
Some of them are charged with assaulting police officers, damaging property, but there are several who committed no violent crime.
So, this is really unprecedented, Charlie.
Furthermore, they've set aside a certain section of the DC jail system only to house January 6th defendants.
This is a political prison.
And then you have dozens more who are at prisons throughout the country.
Some of them, Charlie, have been held over a year.
The trial of the first January 6th detainee actually started today in Washington, D.C. Jury selection is now underway.
But you have these men who are going to be held maybe 18, 20 months before their trial even starts.
This is just punitive and vengeful behavior from Joe Biden's Justice Department.
So, walk us through this latest story of the individual who committed suicide.
What were the circumstances surrounding that?
So, his name is Matthew Perna.
He was not in jail.
He is not a detainee.
He was allowed to be at home awaiting trial.
But he committed no crime on January 6th.
I want to say this up front, Charlie.
He walked into an open through an open door on the Senate side of the building at about 10 minutes to three on that afternoon.
There were Capitol police standing right by the door.
They didn't attempt to arrest anyone.
They didn't tell anyone the building was off limits.
They didn't try to usher people outside.
He walked in peacefully.
He walked in the road lines.
He took photos.
He was inside for about 20 minutes and he left.
He carried no weapon.
He assaulted no one, vandalized no property.
From that point on, his life turned into a living hell by this FBI, Justice Department, the national and local news media, and his own community all turned on him.
Because as you know, Charlie, you have everyone from Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Chris Reag, FBI director, Attorney General Merrick Garland, and every mainstream journalist referring to these people as domestic terrorists, white supremacists, seditionists, insurrectionists, you name it.
So his life was completely destroyed.
He was charged with one felony obstruction charge, a joke charge, and then three minor misdemeanors.
This justice department tormented him.
He finally pleaded guilty in December trying to just get this over with.
He thought that he would be serving about six months to a year in prison.
But Joe Biden's justice department, Matthew Graves, who is the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia handling all these cases, said, wait, we want to delay the sentencing hearing.
We want to make sure that all the January 6th defendants are being charged equally, which means, Charlie, they were going to ask for a few years in prison for this man, Matthew Perna, who has no criminal record, never even a parking ticket, his family told me on the phone yesterday, committed no crime on January 6th, but nonetheless, this Justice Department wanted to throw him in jail for at least a few years just to prove a point and to criminalize political dissent in this country.
So he unfortunately had had enough, and he hung himself tragically Friday night in the garage of his home.
He was 37 years old.
And we're going to see more stories like that, I'm afraid, if this continues.
So how many people are still in pretrial detention right now?
So right now, Charlie, there's about 70 in pretrial detention.
There's around 40 in the DC jail right now.
And so, but look, this is the second suicide related to a January 6th defendant.
Another man who was charged died suddenly in September.
His attorney said he died a wrongfully convicted man, which he actually was.
It is just shameful, Charlie, how this prosecution is being used to destroy the lives of thousands of Americans who did nothing wrong that day, simply show up because they objected to the unlawful election of Joe Biden and were supporters of Donald Trump.
And so when I use the term political prisoners, it is accurate.
And some of them are prisoners in their own homes.
They can't even go out to the community because they are shunned.
It's their jobs.
They've been abandoned by relatives, by friends, by coworkers.
One told a court that his own church told him to stop going to church because he was such a distraction.
They have been vilified like no other group of people in American history.
And now they have blood on their hands for what they've done.
37 political prisoners.
That's right.
37 people in pretrial detention that cannot get bail.
Meanwhile, you have in, I think, Louisville or wherever, some, it was either Louisville or Nashville.
We have the story up here.
An individual tried to assassinate a mayoral candidate.
It was Louisville.
That's right.
Tried to assassinate a mayoral candidate and they get off on bail.
And you see this repeatedly.
Is it because of a lack of representation?
They can't raise money for it.
Why is it they can't even be able to get out of jail?
I mean, they have been in jail now for 13 months.
That's right.
The man whose trial started today, Charlie, has been incarcerated almost 14 months.
He was arrested shortly after January 6th.
What happens is a combination of factors.
They had bad attorneys at the beginning who did not make an argument for them to get out of jail.
A lot of cases, they couldn't even find good criminal defense attorneys.
So they had public defenders in D.C., which of course did not share their political views.
But more egregiously, Charlie, you have federal judges in the D.C. District Court.
As I said, Trump judges like Judge Trevor McFadden, Dami Friedrich, all the way through Obama judges, down to Reagan judges, Tom Hogan, and Royce Lambert, who have signed on to these pretrial detention orders, going along with the idea that these people are insurrectionists, that they're domestic terrorists, that they are not safe to go home and live in their own community.
So it's the Justice Department's fault, but it also is the fault of these federal judges who are going along with whatever this DOJ wants and continuing to torment these people as they continue, as they delay trials at the same time.
So it's this horribly rigged system.
It's destroying lives.
It's destroying families.
It's bankrupting families.
It's really a tragedy.
And now we have the second suicide of an innocent young man who did nothing wrong.
And now his family, who I spoke with yesterday, just you cannot even imagine how broken and outraged they are at what happened to their son and their nephew.
Well, these prosecutors are all trying to look for career advancement and they see a 9-11 style opportunity where they could be known as, yeah, I worked the January 6th case and they can get promoted to become some DA or they could become some U.S. attorney from this.
So you have these hyper-aggressive prosecutors that are going above and beyond.
Talk for a second about the equal protection implications here.
Are BLM and Antifa being treated with this sort of scrutiny?
Well, of course, we know the answer to that, which is no.
This is the same DOJ that is actively dropping cases.
Here's a shocking figure that was confirmed by the FBI, Charlie.
Federal prosecutors have charged more than three times as many people for what happened for four hours on January 6th and face federal charges for what happened for months the summer of 2020.
This includes people who attacked federal officers, who defiled federal property, destroyed federal property.
I'm sure you recall how the rioters in Lafayette Square tried to overtake the fence at the White House, causing the White House to go into lockdown that first weekend of June.
All of those charges basically have been dropped.
The charges against the Portland rioters, most of those cases also are being dismissed with prejudice, so they can't come back and charge them again.
You just brought up Louisville.
Here's another interesting dichotomy.
They just charged a Louisville police officer for violating the civil rights of a BLM activist who was committing all sorts of crimes.
This officer allegedly hit him in the back of the head with a riot stick.
They wanted four years in prison for this Louisville police officer for allegedly violating this BLM activist civil rights as he was engaged in criminal activity, but at the same time, refusing to even consider charging Lieutenant Michael Byrd, who shot at near point-blank rage, almost in the face, Ashley Babbitt, an unarmed Trump supporter in the Capitol building that day.
So these double standards are everywhere.
And Charlie, this is what the American people see.
They recognize it.
And unfortunately, the situation is really getting dire and more desperate for these defendants as they continue to be tormented.
And at the same time, actual people who really terrorized our country for months on end are getting their charges dropped.
Is there a website or a legal fund of how people can help?
This is great.
So first, I would ask people to purchase my book, January 6th.
It explained all the background of how Democrats are weaponizing that day.
I also am contributing part of my proceeds to the Patriot Freedom Project, PatriotFreedomProject.com.
They are the only real organization out there raising money for defense attorneys and helping alleviate the financial burden that so many of these families are facing of this unjust, abusive prosecution.
Buy the book and help if you can, everybody.
This political prisoners, it's a big deal.
We are supposed to be above that.
And we are now wagging our finger at Putin for having political prisoners, which is bad, while we have 37 of our own.
And there's more than that, by the way.
But as you count all the different categories, just from January 6th, there's 37 pretrial detention political prisoners that are going to go into a rigged, I don't want to say it sounds so cynical, but if you're going to be tried in a DC court, give me a break.
I mean, you're not going to get treated well at all.
Julie Kelly, get her book.
It's terrific.
Thank you so much.
Charlie, thanks for having me on.
Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
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The story is almost hard to believe from the Daily Mail.
More evidence shows that COVID was tinkered in a lab.
Now scientists find virus contains tiny chunks of DNA that match a sequence patented by Moderna three years before pandemic began.
Fresh suspicion that COVID may have been tinkered within a lab emerged today after scientists found genetic material owned by Moderna in the virus's spike protein.
They identified a small snippet of code that is identical to the part of gene patented by the vaccine maker three years before the pandemic.
It was discovered in SARS-CoV-2's unique furin cleavage site, the part that makes it so good in infecting people and separating it from other coronaviruses.
But there's some debate about whether its match is as rare as the study claims, others describing it as quirky coincidence rather than a smoking gun.
Hmm.
How many quirky coincidences have we had?
So basically, it's a study published by Frontiers in Virology.
Researchers compared COVID's makeup to the millions of sequent protein on an online database.
The virus has been made up of 30,000 letters of genetic code that carries the information it needs to spread, known as nucleotides.
It is the only coronavirus to carry 12 unique letters that allows its spike protein to be activated by a common enzyme called furin, allowing it to spread between human cells with ease.
Ties kind of into this question of Bill Gates and is he behind it.
And kind of on a lighter note, Joe Rogan went after Bill Gates in the last week.
And it's one of the funniest segments that you guys can hear.
The vaccine propagandist himself, PlayCut 23.
He keeps saying that we've got to eat less meat and, you know, we've got to cut our consumption of meat out to be healthy and that we're going to get used to these meat alternatives.
How are you giving any health advice when you look like that?
Your health is piss poor.
I'm not a doctor.
But when you've got man boobs and a gut and you're walking around, you have these like toothpick arms.
I'm like, hey, buddy, you're not healthy.
He's the one telling everyone to go get vaccinated.
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And by the way, he's worth like $100 billion trying to tell me he couldn't get himself in shape.
Now, Jeff Bezos, he's in fair enough shape.
Joe Rogan has come under massive attack, as you well know, for kind of challenging the World Economic Forum and challenging the medical fascist consensus.
But he continues to hold the line.
He really does.
Another story here I want to get to, and it's not going to get headline news, but it could tie in tomorrow.
Hunter Biden's ex-business partner and best friend was just sentenced in New York District Court, Devin Archer.
Devin Archer is Hunter Biden's ex-business partner, was just sentenced in New York District Court to one year, one day in jail, plus a one-year parole and a $15 million forfeiture of defrauding a Native American tribe.
Only a presidential pardon will save him.
That might not be out of the cards.
Judge Ronnie Abrams said the crime is too serious for the non-custodial sentence that Archer's lawyer requested.
But the sentence was less than the 30 months requested by prosecutors.
Says here that Joe Biden was repeatedly denied any involvement with his son's illicit business dealings in Ukraine.
Quote, I've not spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.
I know Trump deserves to be investigated, he said in 2019.
He's violating every basic norm as president.
You should be asking him why he's on the phone with a foreign leader trying to intimidate a foreign leader.
You should be looking at Trump.
Now, isn't it interesting that it all comes back to Ukraine?
The first impeachment was all through Ukraine.
Joe Biden's fixation on Ukraine, Hunter Biden's business dealings with Ukraine.
And here we are again talking about the invasion of Ukraine.
Any enterprising journalist out there, there's a story to be told about Ukraine, the true story of Ukraine.
Who put Zelensky in power?
Who's really behind him?
Is part of the information war trying to get the West further and further involved into Ukraine so much that we can't resist ourselves?
These are all questions that we need to have answered.
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