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Dec. 16, 2021 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Schiff, Meadows, and America’s Slow March Towards Totalitarianism
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Ten Stages of Genocide 00:09:21
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We go word for word of the 10 steps that occur before a genocide occurs.
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What would the playbook be if you were trying to eliminate a large portion of the population?
What's so incredible to me is how close we are in historical terms, meaning not so far away from the intentional attempt to eliminate entire races of people.
This is not just done by the National Socialist Workers' Party in the 1930s and 1940s in Germany, despicably and evil.
But it was also attempted to be done by Mao Se Tong and Joseph Stalin.
If the 20th century told us anything, it told us a couple things.
As Alexander Solshenitsyn famously wrote in the Gulag Archipelago, he said that all of this was thanks to ideology.
Now, Alexander Solshenitsyn reflected in the Gulag Archipelago, which I encourage you to read.
He went into a deep reflection saying, What did I personally do that might have contributed to this great evil?
It's very profound.
And actually, that book was largely responsible for the downfall of the Soviet Union.
There's another great book by Victor Frankl, which is called Man's Search for Meaning.
By writing that book, he ended up starting a whole new psychological kind of school of thought called logotherapy, the will to meaning.
Because you have the will to power, the will to pleasure.
He says that we as humans have a moral obligation to have a will to meaning.
Viktor Frankl famously said in Man's Search for Meaning, there are only two types of people, the decent and the indecent.
We are so close to the committed and attempted elimination of entire groups of people.
Why is it that anytime anyone says that the government might be trying to do that again, they're called a conspiracy theorist and you're not even allowed to talk about it?
It's a very serious question because we still have living members today that survived concentration camps, that survived the attempted elimination of kulaks in the Soviet Union.
One of our good friends here is Joseph Bondarenko, who spent 23 hours in a Soviet jail for 10 years straight for preaching the gospel.
I know him.
It's a real thing.
He tells me what's happening in America is identical to what he lived through in the Soviet Union.
Same thing.
And I think part of it is that the American ruling class, they actually do want the re-implementation of this sort of authoritarianism and elimination.
There's an article by Gregory H. Stanton called 10 Stages of Genocide.
Now, let me be very clear.
I am not saying right now what we're living through is genocide or attempted genocide.
Instead, I'm connecting these 10 things, and I want you to ask yourself, does any of this sound familiar?
This is from AmericanThinker.com by J.B. Shirk.
Number one, classification.
Governments dividing people into us versus them.
Yeah, that wouldn't happen, obviously.
It's not like we have vaccinated and unvaccinated restaurants.
It's not like we have black and white playgrounds.
And just so you know, Denver public schools have playgrounds where only black kids are allowed to play.
White families are not welcome.
Number two, symbolization.
Government starting to force unclean people to wear symbolic articles of clothing so they can clearly stand out from everyone else.
For example, unvaccinated people having to wear masks.
Number three, discrimination.
Governments use laws and cultural power to deny civil rights to certain people.
Don't like your job?
Don't want to take the vaccine?
We're going to fire you from your job.
How about number four, dehumanization?
Governments subtly deny the humanity of discriminated groups by comparing them to animals, vermin, insects, and diseases.
For example, David Frum yesterday saying that we must quietly triage the unvaccinated and let them die in hospitals.
Number five, organization.
The state bureaucracy begins actively designing killing plans for the undesirables.
Now you might say, well, Charlie, that isn't happening.
Well, then how do you explain the permanent internment of people that went into the U.S. Capitol building on January 6th and took selfies, and they're not allowed to leave the Washington, D.C. pit of hell jail that could be closely associated with Gitmo.
Number six, polarization.
Propaganda is utilized to amplify differences between us versus them.
Vaccinated versus unvaccinated.
White people are racist.
Preparation.
The victims of future mass killings are identified, separated, and forced to wear distinguishing symbols.
You mean like the FBI going and putting threat assessment tags on moms and dads that show up to school board meetings?
Number eight, persecution.
Governments begin forcing members of victim groups into special camps.
You mean like Australian Canada building internment camps?
Number nine, extermination.
The massacre begins and government actors justify their mass murder as necessary.
Extermination of non-humans who deserve to be killed.
Now, of course, we don't, it's not like we have writers of The Atlantic who say that we should quietly triage unvaccinated people in hospitals.
Number 10, denial.
The brainwashed perpetrators of the genocide deny having committed any crimes, blaming their victims for their own murders.
Yeah, I've heard a couple people say the unvaccinated people deserve to die.
Auschwitz survivor, Marion Tersky, she was in Auschwitz against that existential evil.
She survived the attempted extermination of her race, her view, her religion.
What does she have to say?
Play Cut 43.
One day, in those early 1930s, you can read an inscription on the benches.
Jews must not sit on these benches.
You could say, it's unpleasant, it's not fair, it's not right.
But after all, there are so many benches around.
You can sit somewhere else.
Of course you can.
Vienna Before the Virus 00:09:43
And then you read, we only sell bread and food to Jews after 5 p.m.
Right?
Less choice.
This makes your life harder.
But after all, after 5 p.m., you can still do your shopping.
And that's how it is done, step by step.
Slowly.
And they become acquainted with that thought, familiar with the idea that they are different people, that they are alien people, that they are the people that carry germs that cause pandemics.
And this now is a horror.
What came later was something that developed immediately.
Jews could not get jobs, they could not emigrate.
And then, quickly, Jews would be sent to ghettos, to Kaunas, to Riga, to my ghetto.
Now, I apologize.
I was up very early this morning.
It's a man, not a woman, so I apologize.
We do believe in the differences of genders.
Movement of people.
Now, of course, in üsterreich, Vienna, Austria, Österreich, if you leave your home, you're breaking the law.
Can we get that clip of those two girls that selfie I sent the other day?
You know what I'm talking about?
I've been to Vienna.
I know exactly where they are.
That is the capital.
That is the center of Vienna.
Vienna used to actually be a neat place.
It's kind of the intersection of where East met West.
It's the farthest west, the Turks got actually.
That's why Vienna has such good coffee.
Separate conversation for a different time.
Are we now marching in that direction?
And I know a lot of you right now are going to be like, oh, Charlie, genocide will never happen here.
That'll never happen here.
I want you to go look in the eyes of Joseph Bondaranko, KGB most wanted, pastor who spent nearly a decade in prison for preaching the gospel, who looks me in the eyes and looks our team in the eyes, trembling with fear, saying, what is happening in America is what I lived through.
They nearly killed my entire family.
You guys have no idea what you're doing.
And so maybe check your American privilege and realize the rest of the world has lived in fear of genocide, calamity, and destruction.
And it might be coming here.
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If you are in Vienna right now, Vienna used to be a really nice place.
I was there a couple years ago.
Can't remember when I was in Vienna.
Actually, you know what?
I was in Vienna right before the virus.
I was in Austria and wasn't there for very long.
Went to Salzburg, which is really nice, the home of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
He was born in Salzburg.
Spent some time in Vienna.
And it was so interesting.
As we were in Salzburg in Vienna, the news of the virus was starting to circulate.
And I'll never forget, I was with my then-girlfriend, now wife Erica, walking the streets of Vienna.
And for the first time, I saw a group of people wearing masks.
And I said, what is that all about?
Little did I know that would be a harbinger of things to come.
Now, you would think Austria, Germany, those that region of the world would be a little bit sensitive.
Let's just say the wound would be a little tender around locking people in their homes.
Let's just say that they haven't even let 100 years pass until they get right back in the muscle memory of trying to tyrannize their own citizenry.
So if you were to go to Vienna right now and you'd want to leave the home, your home, you're breaking the law.
Watch this clip of two young girls in Vienna doing just that.
Play tape.
So Reyes and I are out in beautiful Vienna, and it's actually a crime for us to be outside now because today is the first day that the nationwide lockdown has ended, but it has transformed into a lockdown solidity for the unvaccinated.
So for us to be outside right now is breaking the law because we're not vaccinated.
So just standing here breathing in 2021 as an unvaccinated person is a crime in Vienna.
In Germany, they are thinking about outlawing Telegram, a messaging service, because it's spreading disinformation.
Now, we must understand that this is an international effort to quash dissent.
But the really interesting thing, and you see this in what they're trying to do with the January 6th Committee, we're going to be joined by Sean Davis from the Federalist in the next segment to help us walk through that.
Is that if you are unsuccessful in quashing dissent, if you are unsuccessful in thwarting a movement of people, it only grows.
And so the Democrats attempt right now to try and chill political speech, which is what they did, by the way, through the National School Board Association of America letter.
You see, this is happening at every turn, not just in Austria, not just in Australia, COVID concentration camps, which they have in Australia, not just in Austria where you can't leave your home.
In Santa Cruz, California, a recent measure has just been said that if you have a visitor in your home, everyone must wear a mask.
Could you imagine being a person that reads that from the Santa Cruz government and says, yeah, that's reasonable.
It's like, yeah, I think that makes sense.
Yeah, sure.
The attempt by the regime to crush you is going to fail.
We have covered in great detail the top-down revolution happening in America: of the powerful trying to crush the weak, of the rich trying to crush the poor, of the informed, I want to say the informed, the intelligentsia trying to crush the muscular class.
But they're doing so clumsily, inaccurately, not precisely.
They're doing so belligerently.
And as a byproduct of that, this will be a failed attempt to keep you in your box.
This will be a failed attempt to try and shut you up.
What the rulers are underestimating is they are underestimating people's desire right now to push back against these totalitarian governments.
Now, I'm going to stop short of saying people's desire to be free because there's plenty of people that are perfectly fine being locked in Vienna, Austria, and they don't want to leave their home.
But there's more and more people that are growing fed up with it, that are seeing the moving of the goalposts, and that want to do something about it.
The regime is about to have the greatest, most epic, public swing and amiss of any organized power structure in modern political history.
They're trying to shut you up, and the opposite is happening.
We're speaking louder than ever.
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Unprecedented Committee Rules 00:11:14
There has been an extraordinary amount of drama in the last couple of days around the January 6th committee, the Mark Meadows news, the Bannon news.
But breaking the last 24 hours has just been a very confusing development of Mark Meadows handing over text messages and then being found in contempt of Congress despite handing over text messages.
And the Federalist is on top of it.
One of my favorite websites on the planet, Sean Davis, joins us right now by phone.
Sean, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Thanks for having me.
It's great to talk to you.
Yes, you're doing amazing work.
And so I'll be very honest with our audience.
I've not been covering this the last 24 hours as much.
I've been so into vaccine stuff.
I'm kind of on a periphery.
So why don't you tell me and tell our audience what's the recent update here?
You have a new story on thefederalist.com.
During January 6th hearing, Schiff doctored text messages between Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan.
Tell us about it.
Right.
So on Monday night during one of these, you know, very dramatic primetime hearings that Adam Schiff and his colleagues love to do, Schiff purported to read and show on screen a whole bunch of text messages that he had obtained from lawmakers who were texting with Meadows on January 5th and January 6th.
And according to Schiff, this shows that they're all traitors and treasonous and shouldn't be in Congress and blah, blah, blah.
It's just what Schiff does.
But what we learned is that one text in particular was not at all what Schiff and the January 6th committee purported it to be.
In fact, we were able to review the full text chain, the full text message that Schiff had allegedly read and show that Schiff had doctored the text.
He had cut out multiple paragraphs of this particular text from Jim Jordan to Mark Meadows.
He had completely eliminated one sentence from a key paragraph, added punctuation where there was none.
But the most interesting thing isn't how he doctored this text message to have it say something it didn't.
It was that Jim Jordan didn't even write this particular text message that Schiff was going on about.
What Jordan had done was forwarded a text, a three-paragraph summary from a lawyer who was summarizing his own four-page legal memorandum on all the electoral vote, Electoral College certification stuff that was happening in the House.
So not only did Schiff doctor this thing, he attributed to Jordan something he didn't even write.
Jordan was just forwarding to Meadows this summary written by an attorney of that attorney's own lengthy legal memorandum.
And it just goes to show what an absolute farce Adam Schiff is.
We know he's a joke, but what a farce this January 6th committee is.
Well, I want to get into that.
I want to play the tape here.
Let's go to Cut 61, which details exactly what you're talking about.
Play Cut 61.
This one reads, on January 6th, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as president of the Senate should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all.
You can see why this is so critical to ask Mr. Meadows about.
About a lawmaker suggesting that the former vice president simply throw out votes that he unilaterally deems unconstitutional in order to overturn a presidential election and subvert the will of the American people.
So, Sean, that's the tape.
I suppose what is the most obvious question, is it legal for Schiff to do this?
I mean, is it legal for him to lie and make up stuff?
I mean, probably.
Goodness.
I feel like lying politicians is an American pastime.
But there's an interesting slate of hand he did in there.
He said that it was this lawmaker who was Jim Jordan.
Jim Jordan was purposely deliberately telling Meadows to have Pence decertify the election and not allow these votes.
That didn't happen.
Jim Jordan didn't tell Meadows to say that.
He was forwarding a three-paragraph summary of a legal memorandum from a very well-respected DC attorney.
He used to be the inspector general of the Department of Defense.
And he did this under the guise of proving that it's not just Trump who's awful and treasonous and has to go to prison, but everyone in Congress who agreed that the election had problems.
You know, they're a problem too.
And we know where this ends.
It wasn't going to end with Trump.
It won't end with people in Congress voted on by the people they represent.
It's going to end with this Congress and all their cronies and big tech and media trying to deplatform actual voters and trying to unperson actual voters who supported Trump.
That's always where this was going to end, is they don't want to give people the ability to vote for someone that the Democrat Party and the big tech oligarchs don't want you to vote for.
Yeah, and everyone who texts with Jim Jordan knows that he actually just sends like one-word texts like, yes, call me, like not three-paragraph nerdy legal texts.
So this was forwarded by somebody else and was intentionally trying to be trying to be misrepresented by this committee.
Also, we saw Liz Cheney read off text messages that Mark Meadows supplied to the committee from Donald Trump Jr., from Brian Kilmead, from Sean Hannity and Laura Ingram.
Sean, what she read in that committee, it kind of undermined their entire narrative, didn't it?
It did.
And I'll make two points here.
The first is that you had Schiff say, well, we have to talk to Meadows about this.
We have to ask him about these text messages and his refusal to come bow before them is why they have to hold him in contempt.
Well, Schiff and his staff knew who sent that text to Meadows, and they could have gone and asked him what it was about.
And they refused to do it, which proves their entire rationale for holding Meadows in contempt is a lie.
It's pure political persecution.
And when you look at the text that Cheney read of various people kind of texting Donald Trump Jr. or texting Meadows saying, hey, this writing stuff is bad.
You guys need to get on top of it and shut it down and say it's bad.
That's the opposite of what the left and the Democrats and the turncoats like Cheney and Kinfinger have claimed.
They have claimed from the beginning that Trump was all in on it and Meadows was all in on it and that the Republicans and the media were part of this plan and they were in on it.
No, you have everyone texting them saying the same things they said during all the BLM riots, which is, hey, rioting is bad.
We should do everything we can to make people not riot.
It utterly obliterates their entire case against Trump.
Right.
And this seems as if it's now becoming a broader, let's just say, committee, to put it nicely, Soviet show trial, to try and chill political speech and to try to basically persecute the non-believers.
Sean, you're a student of history.
Have we ever seen a committee like this?
People are saying it's like McCarthy.
I think it's much, much worse than that.
Private text messages by the United States Congress because we don't like your politics.
And then, so Mark Meadows, this is why I can't understand.
Mark Meadows supplies thousands of pages of information.
And then they say, oh, we're going to hold you in contempt of Congress.
Talk a little bit about the unprecedented nature behind this committee.
I mean, it's shocking.
Well, first off, the committee is not even constitutionally or under the rules of the own house properly constituted.
They're not following their own rules.
They didn't follow the rules of the House.
For example, the House standing rules require any committee that issues a subpoena to run the subpoena by and inform the ranking member of the committee.
Well, on this committee, there is no ranking member because Nancy Pelosi banned the Republicans from appointing their own members to this committee.
Instead, we have Liz Cheney, who's masquerading as a Republican.
She's a Democrat appointee.
She's a vice chair.
So all the subpoenas that that committee has issued are actually invalid under the very rules of the House that Pelosi.
So let me stop.
Let me stop you.
You're the first person that I've heard that have said that.
That's really smart.
Is anyone challenging that in court?
So Mark Meadows is challenging the entire thing in court, seeking an injunction against the House and potentially even the archives from supplying these records.
And his attorney has actually made that point that in order for these to be considered valid, they had to have been issued in accordance with the rules, both of the Constitution and of the House.
And, you know, the constitutional argument we can set aside.
I think we can probably, we're probably all familiar with that.
But on the House side, the committee, number one, doesn't have a valid legislative purpose, which is required for the Supreme Court for them to be able to do these kinds of inquisitions.
That's a great, great word.
Oh, my gosh.
Keep going.
Yeah, the committee's own resolution creating it says that it can't mark up legislation.
It can't do any legislation.
It's clear that there's no valid legislative purpose.
And then you have the whole issue with due process for subpoenas, for deposition in a deposition or when there's a witness, for example.
The rules require people from the minority staff or the ranking member to be able to be present and ask questions.
This is something you see in all previous depositions and House and Senate committees.
They've not been allowing that.
This is a purely Democrat-run, Democrat-appointed inquisition that has no basis in law.
And I think Democrats are in for a world of trouble when this thing actually starts moving through the courts.
And I'm not talking about the DC district court, which will do what the Dems want, or the appellate court, which will probably do what the Dems want.
This is going to be a very, very serious issue for the Supreme Court, especially in light of how they ruled on the Trump tax returns.
No, I think you're right.
And I mean, obviously, Democrats are willing to use political power.
I don't know what they think Republicans are going to do when they get back political power.
I think they just think that Republicans are so weak they would never do this again.
This is really bad for the country, though, Sean.
In one minute, can you just talk about that if all of a sudden you say Congress can now basically get into the private communications of opposing political parties?
I mean, this is, I could use all the one word, you know, the kind of one-liners.
It's a third world country, banana republic, but it kind of really is.
It is.
And it's so, by the way, it's so much worse than just going after another party.
They are going to the phone companies and thank phone companies, give us, yeah, give us all the records of these random people, not even in Congress, not candidates, not in the White House.
Give us the records of these random people.
Give us their bank transactions, their phone conversations.
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That is Soviet, okay?
That is what the Stasi did.
That's what the KGB did.
That is not what we do in America.
And these people are completely out of control and need to be held to account because this is republic-destroying kind of behavior.
Well, federalists.com, Sean Davis, you do great work.
Thank you so much for joining us.
And we'll have to keep on this story.
So thank you so much.
Talk to you soon, Sean.
Thank you, Charlie.
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Ron DeSantis Leads Florida 00:05:01
In order to win against the left, we must identify the threat and then do something about it.
Ron DeSantis in Florida is one of those leaders.
Despite being in a very contentious reelection campaign, not using that as an excuse for inaction, Ron DeSantis is doing more than ever to protect his voters and his constituents in Florida from the existential threat and cancer that is known as critical race theory.
That is known also as the destruction of our history, our language, our culture, and who we are.
Florida's an interesting state.
Florida was scheduled by the Democrat elites to become a far left-wing state.
Ron DeSantis had other plans.
Ron DeSantis won against the morally troubled Andrew Gillum, and he won only, I think, by like 30,000 votes or something, right?
Connor was very narrow in 2018.
And now he's gone on to be the most effective and conservative governor in America in a state that is a 50-50 state in a lot of different ways.
Cut 49, Ron DeSantis articulates on how he does not want to let a militant form of Marxism take hold that is rooted in this destruction of American history.
And so every time I play Ron DeSantis, there's a two-part dance we do.
The compliment and then the why isn't everyone else saying this?
Play Cut 49.
You see these things throughout the country where they take down Thomas Jefferson's statute in New York City, where they take down Abraham Lincoln in Massachusetts, where they take George Washington's name off schools in California.
You know, that is an attempt to erase history.
They want to delegitimize the founding of the country and the institutions, and they basically want to replace it with a very militant form of leftism that would absolutely destroy this country if that ever took hold.
Boy, isn't that true?
He has in front of him, for those of you on radio, stop, woke, act.
That's how you play offense.
For so many Republicans, they're too busy talking about corporate taxes and mass immigration.
Ron DeSantis is willing to articulate that we got a serious threat.
He continues by going in Cut 59, calls wokeism what it is, cultural Marxism, and how he banned critical race theory from public schools.
And now he wants to use the Stop Woke Act, play cut 59.
Now, with the rise of this woke ideology, is an attempt to really delegitimize our history and to delegitimize our institutions.
And I view the wokeness as a form of cultural Marxism.
I directed the Florida Department of Education to prohibit critical race theory in our K through 12 schools.
By the way, the girl behind him is wearing a turning point USA shirt, the conservative shirt.
I've worn that on air a couple times before.
Leadership means being able to understand the issues in front of you and act on them quickly and prudently.
Leadership is being willing to do the right thing regardless of the potential cost associated alongside of that.
Ron DeSantis won by 33,000 votes in Florida.
I guarantee you he's going to win by a lot more than that against Charlie Crist, one of the most popular and effective governors in America.
But every governor needs to be doing exactly what Ron DeSantis is doing.
Because the left does not stop.
The left, they're really good at playing offense.
They're abysmal at playing defense.
You see, Ron DeSantis understands that a war is never won by constantly retreating and apologizing to the enemy.
Ron DeSantis understands that if you articulate why you believe what you believe in a way that is calm, collected, and cool, that more people can actually come into your category.
Registered Republican voters now outnumber Democrats in Florida.
Yes, there's a lot of Republicans moving into Florida, but also Ron DeSantis is moving Democrats into the Republican column because say, I like him.
He's a leader.
He articulates.
I like what he does.
That is a message for Republicans that you could be more conservative than ever and more popular than ever if you're willing to lead.
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