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Dec. 9, 2021 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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A Lesson in Leadership with Congressman Jim Jordan
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Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
With us is one of the most amazing people in Washington, D.C. He's a fighter, and I'm just going to tell you his new book right off the bat.
You should go buy it.
Do what you said you would do.
Fighting for freedom in the swamp by Congressman Jim Jordan.
What a concept.
Doing what you said you were going to do.
We've known each other for many years and he's a buck guy and we had a great mutual friend, Tom Patrick.
Jim, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Charlie, good to be with you.
Thank you for what you do.
Fighting for freedom, fighting for those important concepts and doing what Americans want you to do.
So we appreciate that.
But yeah, and you talk about the title of our book.
No one did more what they said they would do than our good friend and the greatest president, President Trump.
And so I write a lot about him in the book, some of the interactions we had, but I think your viewers will enjoy it.
It's a quick read.
It takes them behind the scenes so they can kind of feel what it's like here in Congress.
Well, so there's a lot of different places I want to go with it.
Let's start with just the book.
And so the title is really important.
Do what you said we would do.
The biggest complaint I get from voters is the fact Republicans go to D.C. and we win elections, but then they become somebody totally different in committee and especially on votes.
And it's as if they tell their voters what they want to hear and then they don't actually do what they say they're going to do.
Why is that the case?
Yeah.
Well, a couple of things.
You're exactly right.
That phenomenon does happen, I think, all too often.
My attitude is we make this job too complicated.
What did you tell the voters you were going to do when you put your name on the ballot and you went out and campaigned?
If they elect you, you should probably just go do what they elected you to do, do what you said you would do.
But the real reason that people don't do that, I think, is because it's just easier.
You get here and the mainstream press comes after you, the bureaucracy comes after you, the establishment, the swamp, pick whatever term you want.
It's just easier to keep your head down and not have to face the mainstream press saying bad things about you or lying about you.
So that's what normally happens.
But my attitude is: look, I tell this to guys in the Freedom Caucus, I tell to my colleagues, if the mainstream press isn't saying something bad about you, you're probably not doing anything any good.
So just get used to that and understand that's what it's going to be like if you're actually going to fight for the things that make America the greatest country ever.
Well, I mean, I agree with that.
It's just there's a disconnect between the voters and actually what's get done.
I think that that kind of disconnect is actually shortening.
I think it's getting better because of people like you, President Trump, and many others.
I mean, we've come a long way since John Boehner.
Let's just put it that way.
And, you know, you're from Ohio, so you know all about that whole operation, but he almost declared war on the conservative wing of the Republican Party.
And it seems as if there is a greater platform for conservatives now.
So let's talk about what will happen if Republicans take back the House of Representatives, which it looks like that is almost imminent.
First, talk about that.
How do you feel going into the midterms?
Then I want to ask you about what can actually be done.
Let's start there.
No, I feel good.
I mean, look, you never want to be overconfident.
My background is in sports and sport of wrestling.
So you never want to get overconfident, but you do want to be confident.
You do want to campaign confidently.
I feel good about it.
I think Virginia was a great sign.
I mean, I've seen lots of encouraging signs.
What happened in Virginia when started with moms and dads speaking out?
And the next thing you know, Glenn Young's going to be the next governor.
What happened with 12 jurors in Kenosha, Wisconsin, where they said, we're going to follow the facts.
We're going to follow the truth.
We're going to honor due process.
So I always say courage is contagious.
I think the American people feel what's coming.
And frankly, Joe Biden and the Democrats have been just, they haven't done anything right.
They haven't done anything.
So I think we're going to win.
If we win, the second part of your question, Charlie, if we win, it's going to be tough to pass anything because Joe Biden will still be in the White House.
But I do think we can do our constitutional obligation, which is the proper oversight, do the kind of investigations that need to happen in every single committee.
I mean, think about the ways and means committees should try to figure out how did thousands of Americans' tax returns become public.
The Oversight and Judiciary Committee, we should be working together to figure out all the whole Dr. Fauci gain of function, lab leak theory, everything else.
We should be looking at the Department of Justice, which is sick, the FBI counterterrorism division on moms and dad.
So there's lots of investigations where we need to get the truth to the American people.
So I think we'll see a lot of focus there and appropriately so if in fact we win and take back the House and the Senate.
Well, I'm pleased to hear that because we've been saying on our show that the mandate needs to be that we're going to take back the House and it's not going to happen in one election cycle.
We still have the regime in the White House.
We're going to find out where this virus came from.
We're going to find out why we gave $85 billion to the Taliban.
We're going to find out why the Department of Justice went after James O'Keefe in an early morning raid for a diary.
And I think what we're getting at, Congressman, is that the American people want answers.
Because the system our founders gave us, as you know, is so brilliant, but oversight has been so lacking of these federal bureaucracies and these agencies.
Can you talk a little bit about kind of what it's been like under Pelosi's regime, especially the last couple of years?
You've been in Congress, you know, now under Republican control, Democrat control.
You guys don't even get to say anything in some of these committee meetings.
Is that right?
Yeah, I mean, I like the way you said what Americans want.
America, it's so true.
Americans want safe cities.
Americans want affordable gas.
Americans want freedom.
Democrats have given us increased crime.
They've given us record inflation and they've given us Dr. Fauci, right?
Americans, and you think about all the bad policies.
What scares me more than anything is when you think about freedom, what the Democrats have done in the last year to the First Amendment, to the most basic liberties we have, the very First Amendment, the Bill of Rights of the Constitution.
So I'm really nervous about that.
And that's something we have to highlight.
If we take back the House, Lord Willen, I'll be chairman of the Judiciary Committee.
That's the committee that's supposed to focus on protecting the Constitution, protecting your fundamental liberties.
And that's what we're going to do in addition to those investigations.
So I think that's the key.
And you're right, Speaker Pelosi has kicked people off a committee.
She didn't allow the minority leader to put people on the select committee that's January 6th, this completely political operation they've got over there.
It's unprecedented action she has taken.
So I think the American people see it for what it is.
And that's why we're going to win, I think, in November.
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So, you know, when Newt Gingrich on the program, Newt said that if we take back the House, we can't go back to business as usual.
We're going to have to kind of make Pelosi feel some of the pain she inflicted on Republicans, meaning that, you know what, you might not get committee assignments.
You know what?
That we're going to have our own special commissions.
You had the January 6th Commission.
We might have a Fauci virus commission and all this.
You know, if you're chairman of the Judiciary Committee, is there going to be, you know, I know it's an if and if and if, and I understand all that, but just a lot of voters, they kind of want to hear, like, hey, is it going to be equal time for Nadler and you?
I mean, or is it going to be like, hey, we're in charge now.
We're going to go find out what's actually happened.
So today in committee offered a resolution to subpoena documents from the Attorney General, the FBI director, the Secretary of Education, and the president of the School Boards Association who sent the initial letter on September 29th that began this whole episode of targeting parents, putting a threat tag on moms and dads.
So the chairman said, nope, we're not going to take up the resolution to subpoena those documents.
So if we're in charge, we will subpoena those documents.
Exactly.
We will get the information because Charlie, here's what I think happened in that specific case.
I don't actually think the letter was what prompted the Biden White House and the Garland Justice Department to target parents.
I think it went the other direction.
I think they just wanted the letter as an excuse, as a pretext to do what they wanted to do, which was target parents and chill the speech of moms and dads because they didn't like that political growth they were seeing out there.
They wanted to stop that.
So it was much like the letter was exactly like the dossier in the Trump Russia investigation, where Jim Comey wanted to go after President Trump, wanted to spawn his campaign.
He just needed a reason.
So, oh, Shazam, here comes this dossier that they knew was garbage, but they used it as the pretext to do what they wanted to do.
I think the same thing happened here.
And God bless this whistleblower who came forward with his email that shows that Tim Langin, head of the counterterrorism division at the FBI, sent out this email putting this, saying to FBI agents around the country, put this threat tag on parents, this designation, used counterterrorism measures to go after mom's dad.
It is so wrong.
So that's the kind of stuff we're going to have to do.
And I'm so pleased to hear that.
And that alone to put you in charge of the judiciary committee is a reason to go take back the house.
And I think we're on pace to do it.
The book is do what you said you're going to do.
So there's a couple different chapters here.
I haven't yet read the book, but one chapter that popped out to me is chapter seven.
I'm sure you're going to get a lot of questions about this.
When is someone going to jail?
Jim, when is someone going to jail?
Used to be the number one question I would get.
I always recall this, I think I was in the Tulsa airport and I come walking out of the restroom and there's some big guy with a big cowboy hat.
He's like staring at me and he walked up and I was a little nervous because he come walking right up to me and that's exactly what he said.
He just pointed at me and says, when is someone going to jail?
Because American people are so sick of the double standard.
But I walked through the big investigations that I had the privilege of serving, you know, being a part of as a member of the Judiciary Committee, the Oversight Committee.
I talk about when the IRS targeted folks that watch your show.
I talked about when I was on the Benghazi committee, what happened there and the information we had to get and the whole email server in Hillary Clinton.
And then, of course, I get into the impeachment issue and the Trump-Russian investigations and all those things where Adam Schiff told us a bunch of baloney and I walk them through all those.
So that's kind of what I think the readers will enjoy reading sort of, again, the behind the scenes stuff that happens when you do these big investigations.
And you point out that Lois Lerner was targeting people and yet she gets her pension and it's never had a consequence at all for the action she took against American citizens.
And so do you think that what's one of the ways we could structurally change this?
I mean, I get this question all the time too.
And the problem is it creates cynicism and then it creates these show trials where it's like, oh, we're going to keep people in solitary confinement because they went in and took selfies at the Capitol.
And look, we denounced the violence on that day.
Every reasonable person did as well.
But we want an equal application of justice, obviously.
And you have these people that are in solitary confinement in Gitmo style conditions.
And yet, meanwhile, you have James Comey and Hillary Clinton and let alone Hunter Biden, who could do whatever he wants to do, sell massive pieces of art.
Is there something Congress can do about that if you take it, you know, take back the House?
Or is this just kind of a more structural DOJ thing?
Well, no, it's going to have to be.
Look, we can highlight it.
We can talk about it.
We can have the hearings, get the facts and the evidence to the American people.
But in the end, it requires a Justice Department with the proper leadership to enforce the law and to hold people accountable.
And frankly, to not do things they shouldn't.
And, you know, we got all the examples where Hillary Clinton gets to testify on the July 4th weekend, but James O'Keefe, as you pointed out earlier, he gets his apartment raided and they take his phone and everything else, it looks like, come in and do all they do.
Or the couple who weren't at the January 6th rally, who in Alaska, they had the wrong couple.
They come up and hold them at handcuff and question them, interrogate them for hours.
I mean, that's the kind of stuff that just is not supposed to happen in the United States of America.
So our job is to draw attention to it, do the proper oversight.
But in the end, the executive branch has to hold them accountable.
They're the only ones that can dight anyone, can indict anyone and take them to trial.
Yeah, you're right in the book.
Americans get fairness.
People get fairness.
It's human nature.
You take your brother's cookie, a classmate cuts in line, the bully cheats at kickball on the playground.
Protecting American Citizens 00:02:07
You instinctively recognize each event as unfair.
What you articulate in this book really well is the yearning of the human soul towards justice.
We are always trying to point towards what is just and what is good.
And we're getting away from that in a variety of different ways, whether it be an overemphasis on skin color as trying to be a factor in whether or not you should get sentencing or justice administered towards that.
And I think that the hand the Democrats are playing is one that is wildly unpopular with the American people.
So maybe you congressman can help explain something for me.
I asked this of our good friend Mark Meadows.
I asked this of Donald Trump.
I asked this of Newt Gingrich, and everyone has different answers, which is why is it that the House Democrats, the Senate Democrats, and the Biden regime, they are not adjusting as the poll numbers decrease.
Why is it it seems as if they're getting more radical and accelerating the more backlash they get from the American people?
Why is that?
Yeah, because they don't, it's almost a disdain they have for regular Americans.
We're the deplorables.
We're the ones who live in Flower Country.
They think Charlie Kirk, Jim Jordan, and the people I get the privilege of representing, they think we're not smart enough.
We're not as sophisticated and as important as they are.
They are the elite and that's how they view the country.
And it's sad because it's, like I said, probably the best word is disdain.
They just don't see the country like we do.
And deep down, and this is really sad to say, I don't think there's a lot of Democrats who I don't think like the country.
They do fundamentally want to change the place.
And we love this nation.
We're not perfect, but we're the greatest nation ever.
We understand it.
And the words that you associate with America, you just talked about them in my book, are freedom and fairness, the freedom to chase down your goals and your dreams in a fair, equal playing field, equal competition, where if you work hard, you have a goal, you have a dream, you can make it happen in this country.
That's what this country offers its citizens.
And the Democrats say, no, no, no, everyone's a victim.
Everything's bad.
We got to fundamentally change the country.
Love For Our Nation 00:10:34
And we're like, no, we don't.
This is the greatest place ever.
If you don't believe me, my background is a sport of wrestling.
I've been to the Soviet Union when it was still the Soviet Union.
I've been to Cuba.
You go to places like that.
You thank the good Lord you live here.
I mean, I tell people Moscow in February, it's like 500 below zero.
I mean, it's the coldest place in the world.
And you thank the good Lord you live in this great country where you have freedom.
And that's what concerns me more than anything else.
So I think it's, remember during impeachment, the one professor the Democrats brought in in the hearings, she said, conservatives, conservatives spread.
Democrats like to cluster.
Conservatives spread out because they don't even like being around themselves.
And it's don't even like, excuse me, being around each other.
And it was like, that's how they think about us.
Peter Strzok says, I'm in the Northern Virginia Walmart.
I can smell the Trump supporters.
Remember that?
So that's the position they have.
And that's what is just so wrong about where the left is today.
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Yeah, and there's a lot of different ways to kind of go about that, which is, you know, how sustainable is the American project if half the country hates us, right?
That's a serious question.
I hope that there could be like a way to reconcile this.
You know, we have this study here.
We did a whole show on it today.
Here it is, that 37% of young people, young Democrats, do not want to be friends with Republicans.
37% of young people.
So that's my question, Jim.
Is that, you know, you're in Congress, you're friends with some Democrats.
You have to be.
But how much of what they say publicly is for show?
And how much do they actually believe it?
You know, how much of it is like they actually are they actually as radical and as silly as they as they come across?
Unfortunately, I think many of them are, Charlie.
And there's been a marked change in the last decade.
When I first got to Congress a few years back, and he's still a good friend.
In fact, we just text messaged each other a couple days ago.
Dennis Kucenich, I mean, he's a lefty.
We disagree.
He's way on the left.
He thinks I'm Mr. Conservative.
We don't agree on many policies.
I have a lot of respect for him, though.
He's a decent guy.
Same here.
Dennis is a friend.
And there were a few times where we could actually work together.
But I respect Dennis.
His attitude was he believed in the First Amendment.
He was a true liberal, believed in the First Amendment.
Make your best argument.
Make your best taste.
Let's see what happens.
Let's have the debate.
Today's left is different.
Today's left says, if you don't agree with me, you're not allowed to speak.
And if you try, we're going to call you a racist and we're going to try to cancel you.
That is frightening.
That's the attack on the first.
It used to be the left, the true left 10, 20 years ago championed the First Amendment, championed free speech.
Now they want to squelch any speech that they don't agree with.
And that I think is in the end the biggest threat to our country because if you can't talk, if you can't speak in a political fashion, none of your other rights matter.
You can't practice your faith.
You can't assemble.
You can't petition your government if you're afraid to speak out.
And that's what the left's going after now.
That's why what you're doing with young people across this country is so darn important because you are standing up for speech and then going to the most tough, difficult places, going to college campuses and doing it.
That's why I applaud what you're doing.
And it's critically important.
Well, thank you.
And you're right.
We are the speaking beings.
If we can't communicate, then it prevents us from being fully human.
One of the issues that you've been focusing on and that others have is the issue of tech censorship.
Five years ago, it would have been considered to be a thought crime in Republican circles to say that we want to break up a private company.
Five or six years ago, that would have been unthinkable.
I now think we should break these companies up with a sledgehammer and make them suffer and punish them, but I'm not a politician.
What is the path forward for big tech?
There's got to be a legislative and a market issue.
Obviously, Rumble has come out really nicely, Rumble.com.
There's the Truth Trump Network.
What's the path forward when it comes towards big tech?
When we get back in power and we get President Trump back in the White House, we should, first of all, get rid of their liability protection, Section 230.
I mean, that's the first thing.
You just do it.
Just take that liability protection away.
Second, you got to get antitrust issues to this highest court in a much faster, much quicker fashion.
It's because Justice Thomas has seemed to indicate he wants to deal with this issue.
So let's get it to the Supreme Court and let the court make a decision on the antitrust concerns.
The Trump administration brought antitrust actions against Google and Facebook.
So we would like to get those to the Supreme Court in an expedited way to get answers.
And then we need to give individuals greater ability to bring a private right of action when their speech gets censored on these big tech platforms because the big platforms now are equivalent to the public square.
I mean, it's where we talk, where we debate.
And then finally, the fourth component is what you just referenced.
We do need alternatives.
And of course, the news this week was Devin Nunes, a great member of Congress, a great friend of yours and mine, is going to be leaving Congress to head up the social media entity that President Trump and business people have created to provide that alternative to the big tech and the left who are censoring conservatives.
So all four of those things have to happen, and that's got to be our path forward.
Yeah, and my only regret with the Devin thing is I would have loved to see him be chairman of, is it oversight?
He was intelligence, right?
If I'm not mistaken.
He did a wonderful job.
He really did.
Sure, did he go down because the Russia thing was unchallenged before Congressman Nunes really got into the weeds there with Kash Patel and they're trying to make cash pay for what he actually uncovered.
It was rather remarkable.
So you go in the book, you go through issue by issue.
One of the issues you talk about is immigration, chapter nine.
So Congressman, one of my big fears of how Republicans could possibly screw up this next year is if we do a mass amnesty deal this spring.
I'm hearing from a lot of people that establishments, people in the Republican Party want to try to get amnesty done this spring.
Do you think that's realistic and why should we oppose that?
No, we should definitely oppose that.
I mean, look, the Biden administration now wants to pay people $450,000 who came here illegally.
I mean, this is, excuse me, some of the craziest things, craziest policies I've ever seen.
No, the American people understand that others want to come to the greatest nation in history.
And no one faults people for wanting to come here.
But the American people get it that you have to do it legally.
So what I think we have to focus on is secure the border first.
That has to be first and foremost.
President Trump understood this.
That's why he campaigned on the issue, build the wall, and he did.
So we have to focus on securing the border.
Understand what has taken place this year.
1.7 million illegals have come into the country this year.
There was a time where each month it was getting a bigger and bigger number.
So much so that your only interpretation you can have is this was intentional.
This was deliberate policy from the Biden administration.
Yes.
So that's what we have to focus on, securing the border before we move forward on any other question relative to immigration.
Well, and just, you know, it would be nice to have a little oversight from the House.
Hey, how many people are waltzing into our country?
And, you know, meanwhile, we're supposed to care about some sort of Russian-Ukrainian border dispute, which, again, I have really no passion on either side.
But it's just so funny to see establishment Republicans and Democrats get so angry that Ukraine's borders might be compromised while our borders remain totally porous and wide open.
And so you have a whole chapter on immigration, and then you talk about impeachment and then COVID-19.
And then you just kind of have a whole chapter on America.
For the time we have remaining, just kind of summarize a little bit towards the end of the book, the arguments you make and kind of the call to action for all the readers.
Yeah.
Well, I tell them, first of all, never forget this is the greatest country ever, as we said before.
Breaking The Democrat Regime 00:08:51
And I give some stories in there about the Wright brothers.
And I read McCullough's book recently.
I mean, what these guys did was amazing.
And they did it without taking a penny from the government.
And it's such an American story.
Have a goal, have a dream, through hard work and perseverance, make it happen.
So that's still where most Americans are.
And I think the bulk of the country is there.
Overwhelming, I think, part of the country is there.
So let's talk about that.
But then, you know, I will walk them through kind of behind the scenes, what happened in impeachment.
One of the stories that I relate is when my friends Steve Scalise and Matt Gates stormed the bunker in the basement of the Capitol when Adam Schiff was doing the depositions and hearings for impeachment of the president of the United States in a secret room where the country couldn't see and kind of what happened there and Schiff's reaction.
And also, that's the part I think they'll enjoy.
I also talk a lot about a lot about how we formed the Freedom Caucus and why we did it because John Boehner at the time just was not doing what we told the voters we were going to do relative to Obamacare, relative to Planned Parenthood, relative to spending and other policies, and why we formed the group and then sort of some of the big moments that we had with the early on with the Freedom Caucus.
It started with nine of us.
I always say one of the original nine was one of our great governors right now, Ron DeSantis, who's doing an outstanding job.
Nine of us is a group of 30-some.
Yeah, 30-some people.
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Well, and so many of the superstars that we see, Mark Meadows was the chairman of the Freedom Caucus, if I'm not mistaken, all kind of came from there.
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Can you talk about some of the races you are personally focused on?
Our audience is a very actionable audience.
They like to support candidates and all this.
So first, they should go buy do what you said you do by Jim Jordan.
Second, what are some of the races you're looking at specifically?
Who are some of the heroes that need our backing?
Where is your energy focused specifically?
Yeah, well, a couple of things.
One, just to put on a radio screen, we have to keep Ohio Senate seat in Republican hands.
We got some good candidates running there.
Haven't endorsed yet, but some good candidates there.
So we're looking, but that's important that that seat stay Republican.
Some of my colleagues who are in tough races, Yvette Harrell, a wonderful lady who ran twice in 28.
Yeah, 2018, they announced CNN, all the mainstream press reported that she had won.
And then about an hour later, well, Shazam, we just found some votes in this county and they took it back.
And she wound up losing that race.
She just kept running and she was able to win in 2020.
Great colleague, a member of the Freedom Caucus.
Scott Perry, our new chairman, comes from a Tupper district in Pennsylvania.
We work hard for Scott.
He's a general, just been a great fighter for conservative principles.
So we're looking at those races.
And then in these open seats, we're trying to find that conservative candidate who's willing to come here and do what they said they would do, do what the voters elected them to do, fight for the principles that make our country great.
So we're looking at candidates all over the country and all these open seats as well.
But as far as incumbents go, I really think of Yvette and Scott is at the top of the list.
They've been great.
And the Ohio Senate race is terrific.
I've endorsed JD.
I don't think you've endorsed yet, but it's a great race.
And we have to make sure that Tim Ryan, is that his name?
Is that right?
Ryan?
Yeah, Tim Ryan's a Democrat.
Yeah.
He's not going to be easy to defeat.
And there'll be some really important House races in Arizona, really important House races in Georgia that are popping up.
Texas, Georgia, Texas, Florida.
Yeah, all of them.
Can you talk about how important the primaries are?
Because sometimes Republicans don't always focus on them because we need more members of the Freedom Caucus, especially if we're going to win the House by 40 or 50 seats.
I think it's going to be like 60 to 70.
I think it's going to be an absolute wipe the floor, a generation type election.
If that's the case, though, we want to make sure that we have people that really believe in what we believe in.
Talk about the importance of that.
Well, no, that's the whole reason behind.
We have this outside organization, the House Freedom Fund, that we don't control.
We can't determine the endorsements, but that group is totally focused on the situation you just described.
Republican leaning seats in a primary.
Let's make sure we get the conservative candidate in there, the candidate that's most likely to be a part of the Freedom Caucus and fight for the things that we all care about.
So we spend some time looking at candidates, but in the end, the outside group has to make the determination who they're going to endorse.
But yeah, that's the kind of race we look at.
We've had a number of those.
We had a race in Georgia a couple years ago where in this primary, there were some candidates, but the House Freedom Fund got behind Marjorie Taylor Greene and she winds up winning that race and is a great member of Congress.
So and others, Mary Miller in Illinois, same thing.
So number of races where we've picked that kind of candidate in those kind of situations.
And they're now member of Congress and maybe just as importantly, a member of the House Freedom Caucus.
No, I think that it's so important.
And if people are saying, well, Charlie, what races do I focus on?
The most important ones are the local ones, right?
The ones that you could touch, you could feel that are in your neighborhood.
Last question.
You talk to President Trump a lot.
What do you think of his involvement coming into the midterms and possibly running in 2024?
Oh, I think he's definitely running.
I mean, I mean, he hasn't announced it officially, but he's, I think he's going to run.
I think he's going to win.
I want him to run.
I want him to win.
I've endorsed him since, you know, I don't know, since the day after the last election.
I'm for President Trump.
Because no, as we said at the top of the program, no one did more of what they said they would do than he did.
I mean, you think about the list, Charlie.
I think this is amazing.
And he did it in spite of every Democrat against him, everyone in the mainstream press against him, everyone in the bureaucracy against him, which is the part we forget sometimes.
That's where the power is in this crazy town.
And then a bunch of Republicans against him.
But in spite of all that, he said he'd cut taxes.
He did.
He said he'd reduce regulations.
He did.
He said he'd build a wall.
He did.
He said he'd get out of the Iran deal.
He did.
He said he'd put the embassy in Jerusalem.
He did.
He said he would put conservatives on the corner.
He, you know, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Tony Bear, and on and on I could go.
So I think he's going to run.
I think he's going to win.
And I think, you know, we win back to House and Senate next year.
President Trump wins in 2024.
Then we got to focus on doing what we said we would do.
And those issues and values that make our country special.
The one thing I would add to is this.
In light of what we've now learned about how the left is using schools and teaching this crazy hate America, racist curriculum called CRT and what happened in Virginia.
I don't think anyone should support any candidate who's not for school choice.
If they're not for school choice, if they're not for saying to moms and dads, you should be able to decide where your son or daughter gets the best education.
Even if they're Republican, don't support them unless they're a Republican who supports school choice.
Make that almost a litmus test because it is so fundamental to the future of our country.
I totally agree.
And we need to have a counter move against the public sector teacher unions and the cartel and their collusion with the National School Board Association, Department of Justice, and all that.
It is an issue that is breaking the back of the Democrat regime.
Congressman Jim Jordan, do what you said you're going to do.
Pretty easy title to remember and a great book.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Keep fighting.
I can't wait to get you back in the majority.
Thanks so much.
Thanks, Tari.
Take care.
You bet.
Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
Email us your thoughts.
As always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
God bless you guys.
Speak to you soon.
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