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Sept. 23, 2020 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Debates Are Coming: How Trump Can Win

With less than one week out from the first presidential debate of 2020, Charlie details the history of presidential debates in America, tracing their roots all the way back to Abraham Lincoln in 1858. He then details some of the most iconic...

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The debates are coming.
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We go through a historical analysis of can't miss debate moments and how President Trump can win these debates.
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The debates are coming.
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Here we go.
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So look, we are less than a week to the first of the three presidential debates.
We have been getting record amounts of emails from all of you at freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com, asking about who's going to win the debate, who's going to come out on top, what is the advantage, what is the conversation going to look like.
So look, in United States political history, the presidential debates were actually born out of a series of seven Illinois senatorial debates between Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas in 1858.
They came about because as Douglass traveled the state, Lincoln would follow his path and guide his own speeches and response to his opponent.
Eventually, the two agreed to take the stage together for seven debates.
These became known as the Lincoln-Douglas debates.
And they started a whole new style of Socratic dialogue.
There were no moderators, and they just went three hours long, mono limano.
This actually would actually be really strong for Trump as an aside.
Now, putting aside the length and the lack of the dishonest media moderator, it would actually be a chance for Biden to have to answer for his positions, not just the one-minute soundbite chunks, but in a substantive longer form.
Lincoln, of course, lost that Senate seat, but went on to win the presidency in 1860 without any presidential debates.
Five election cycles have passed without much public argument between candidates.
The dialogue was separate and usually in the form of campaign speeches.
In 1948, the presidential debate would get a boost with a radio broadcast of a debate between a Republican primary contender, Thomas Dewey and Harold Stason.
Between 40 and 80 million listeners tuned into the radio broadcast of the pair's debate over outlawing communism in the United States.
But debates really didn't catch much steam.
They didn't matter until 1960, when the form of debates we know is today were boring.
A series of debates between Senator John F. Kennedy and Vice President Richard Nixon, which was televised nationwide.
And this made all the difference, and we'll get into this later.
So I want to go through some of the most memorable and impactful debate moments from history and the lessons that both Trump and Biden can learn.
Now, look, this is where I get the most excited.
I am a student of history.
I've watched almost every single presidential debate ever on record, whether it be JFK versus Nixon or Bush versus Gore.
I love this stuff.
And I think there's a lot of substantive, important political lessons that Trump can derive from it, and also warning signs that I hope Trump knows not to fall into.
So here's the first thing: image matters.
Many of you probably know the Kennedy versus Nixon debate was not one on substance, it was one on style.
In the first televised debate, JFK came across as the clear winner for a very simple reason.
He was poised on air, which translates loosely to image.
In fact, political mythology holds that those who listened to the debate thought Nixon had won, but those that watched it had a much different opinion.
JFK was seen as being from a younger generation, even though Nixon was only four years older than JFK.
His cool East Coast media savvy translated into resounding victory on air.
Nixon was seen as nervous, constantly sweating, with darting eyes, choosing to forego wearing any makeup or powder, not used to the blare of studio lights and how that affects your image.
And Nixon was actually the sitting vice president when he was doing these debates.
Donald Trump has the clear advantage here, obviously stemming from his long career on television.
Image absolutely matters.
People will rarely remember what you say, but they'll remember how you make them feel, and most importantly, how you look.
I hate to be that superficial, but that's just the way a lot of people interpret politics and also how they analyze and how they digest this sorts of information.
President Trump has the inherent image advantage against Biden.
He's a much bigger guy.
He's much more commanding.
He has the best body language of any politician I've ever seen.
Just watch President Trump enter a rally.
And you guys might not have seen this before.
Look how he keeps himself upright, the commanding gestures of his hands, how he always moves his hands in a decisive way.
He's a power body language expert, the best I've ever seen.
Whether he's conducting a meeting, it's always, I'm in control.
It's demonstrative gestures.
If you look at the Oval Office meeting with Schumer, leaned over while Trump has his hands out very wide, do you notice that Trump is always with his hands going like karate chopping?
It's because it gets your attention and it looks like that he's in control and you have to follow his lead.
He's incredibly good at this.
Joe Biden is frail and looks like someone that should be in an old person's home.
So here's another very interesting part of this: the incumbent disadvantage.
In 1976, Gerald Ford, in what's considered the first real gaffe in a presidential debate, Ford stumbled over a question during the second debate regarding Poland, which he insisted was, quote, under Soviet domination.
Play tape.
There is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe, and there never will be under a Ford administration.
I'm sorry, could I just follow?
Did I understand you to say, sir, that the Russians are not using Eastern Europe as their own sphere of influence and occupying most of the countries there and making sure with their troops that it's a communist zone, whereas on our side of the line, the Italians and the French are still flirting with Poland.
I don't believe, Mr. Franco, that the Yugoslavians consider themselves dominated by the Soviet Union.
It, of course, was.
Considering the fact that Ford was thrust into office following Nixon's resignation, this comment gave the impression that President Ford was in over his head.
Carter went on to narrowly win that race.
Now, Reagan did very poorly in his first debate against Walter Mondale in 1984.
He came across as tired, confused, and aged, much like Joe Biden.
This raised questions about his level of actual involvement in the White House and his ability to run the nation.
Mondale saw a significant bump in the polls after this, but it was Reagan's move in the next debate between the two that became memorable.
Reagan Debate Style Lessons 00:02:07
Proof that a rebound is always possible.
I also want to talk about the incumbent disadvantage for Barack Obama.
Mitt Romney won the first debate back in 2012.
In the 2012 election, Mitt Romney was poised, he was confident, and Barack Obama was not.
Obama came to play in the second and third debate and did much better than Mitt Romney.
It is a trap debate for the incumbent president.
It always has been, it always will be.
They do not do well.
President Trump has to take this warning seriously.
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Trump Personality Shine Through 00:08:10
You guys love to laugh.
I don't think we laugh enough in our country.
2020 is not exactly a year of laughter or humor or comedy, anything but that.
This is something that President Reagan was at his best at.
Following the perception that Reagan was too old for his job, the former Hollywood star played it off perfectly.
You've probably heard this before.
It's probably one of the most iconic quips in debate history.
Play tape.
You already are the oldest president in history, and some of your staff say you were tired after your most recent encounter with Mr. Mondale.
I recall yet that President Kennedy had to go for days on end with very little sleep during the Cuba Missile Crisis.
Is there any doubt in your mind that you would be able to function in such circumstances?
Not at all, Mr. Truitt.
And I want you to know that also, I will not make age an issue of this campaign.
I am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience.
And if you're watching on video, you'll see very carefully that even the debate moderator and his opponent laughed at his joke.
Now, a move like this in general won't land with Biden the way it did with Mondale or even play in the way in the media, but the base will love it and so will swing voters.
Trump is a very funny person, and he should use that to his advantage.
I think in the first round of debates with Hillary Clinton, he had a hard time letting that part of his personality shine through with one very notable exception, which leads us to our next example and very important takeaway.
You'd be in jail.
I remember exactly where I was when I heard this.
I was in St. Petersburg, Florida.
I was watching the debate.
And when he said it, I couldn't believe it.
I leaned in.
I said, did he just say that?
President Trump did this off the cuff, and it created such an organic, viral explosion, it's hard to even put it into words.
Play tape.
It's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country.
Because you'd be in jail.
Secretary Clinton.
So why does this matter?
It's because it got the base motivated and it made a broader point.
You see, creating organic and viral content is the key to making debates work in the age of 24-hour news cycle.
Organic, though, is an important point, not the way that Hillary tried to do with her prescripted lines, such as, I'd call it, I don't know, Trump up, trickled down, economics.
Aha, ha It didn't work for Hillary, okay?
And it won't work for Biden, and it definitely will not work for Trump if he tries to have these one-liners saved.
Now, remember, the town hall format was the one where that locker room talk topic was brought up.
And that's where Trump's comment was about you'd be in jail.
That's what people were talking about, not the Billy Bush tape.
Hillary Clinton thought she had Trump in that matchup, and you could tell by her demeanor and her overall attitude.
But he outflanked her with one simple quip and disarmed her attacks for the rest of the evening, refocusing the message back to where he wanted it, on her corruption, on how she can't be trusted.
When it comes to Joe Biden, it is inevitable that Joe Biden is going to have some sort of mental stumble, that Joe Biden is going to forget a word or call Donald Hillary or call Chris Wallace Jill Biden or go bite Donald Trump's ear or something.
It's inevitable that happens.
Donald Trump does need to be prepared for one of those moments.
So when Joe Biden says, now you listen, Barack, I mean, George, I mean, you know the thing.
You lying dogface pony soldier.
When Joe Biden has that moment, Donald Trump has to be very careful and he has to be very disciplined not to go for the kill.
Instead, a lighter touch would be better.
Exploiting Biden's mental weakness correctly will be a winning strategy.
Doing it incorrectly could be detrimental.
Let's go back to the Republican primary, 2012.
Mitt Romney versus Ron Paul versus Rick Perry, where Rick Perry forgot one of the branches of government.
He had back surgery a couple days before.
He was on painkillers.
Love Rick Perry.
A moment that I hope he forgets that he forgot what he forgot.
Play tape.
It's three agencies of government when I get there that are gone.
Commerce, education, and the what's the third one there?
Let's see.
EPA.
EPA.
There you go.
No, okay.
Let's stop.
Let's stop depositing.
Seriously?
Is EPA the one you were talking about?
No, sir.
You can't name the third one?
The third agency of government.
I would do away with the education, the commerce.
And let's see.
I can't.
The third one, I can't.
Sorry.
Oops.
So that was the number one thing that Rick Perry was defined for for years.
For better or for worse, these politicians always found themselves in some form of a media-created straitjacket that they couldn't get out of at any cost.
It is very likely that a moment like one of these will happen.
Here's how Trump needs to exploit it.
Similar to when Chris Christie took down Marco Rubio over his pre-canned lines, let's play a montage of Marco Rubio saying the same thing over and over again on the eve of the New Hampshire debate in the 2016 primary.
Play tape.
But I would add this: let's dispel with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing.
He knows exactly what he's doing.
He is trying to change this country.
He wants America to become more like the rest of the world.
We don't want to be like the rest of the world.
We want to be the United States of America.
And when I'm elected president, this will become once again the single greatest nation in the history of the world, not the disaster Barack Obama has imposed upon us.
These are the facts.
Who's the bottom line?
This notion that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing is just not the memorized 25-second speech.
It also reminds me of when Ronald Reagan more gently knocked Jimmy Carter in 1980 with his famous lines, there you go again, play tape.
These are the kind of elements of a national health insurance important to the American people.
Governor Reagan, again, typically is against such a proposal.
Governor, there you go again.
President Trump has to be able to shine a gleaming spotlight on Joe Biden's mental decline, but not make fun of it and not make light of it.
Perry's oops moment effectively ended his campaign.
Something similar could happen if Trump plays his cards right when Biden's oops moment surely comes.
Here's what he has to do.
When Joe Biden does something laughable or regrettable, Donald Trump has to say, I think we all know exactly what's happening over there.
And it's not good.
Not good at all.
Something like that.
Something where it's just such a slight touch.
It is a perfect response.
Remember, both candidates have hot mics throughout the entire debate.
They're not supposed to interrupt each other.
They can basically do whatever they want.
And Trump will interrupt Biden if Chris Wallace is the moderate.
He has to be careful doing that.
But if Joe Biden starts to just go off and say, we hold these truths to be, you know, the thing.
And Chris Wallace, you're not white if you're not black if you don't vote for me.
And if you go to a 7-Eleven and you get a soda and you're not an Indian accent, then what are you on cocaine?
One of those moments that Donald Trump needs to just say very gently, I think it's kind of sad what we're watching right now.
It's not good.
Attacking Question Premises 00:02:37
It's not good at all.
Not, I told you he's a total loser.
Lock him up.
Throw away the keys.
And where's Hunter, by the way?
That's a bad way to respond.
Don't do that.
Instead, the gentle, light touch is the correct way to handle that.
Let people draw their own conclusions.
Don't dive too much into the mental decline issue.
Don't do that too much.
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President Trump must be ready to tackle unfair and outrageous questions from the moderators.
During the 1988 debates, Massachusetts governor was asked, if Kitty Dukakis was raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty?
His response to that question effectively ended his whole political career.
Play tape.
The first question goes to Governor Dukakis.
You have two minutes to respond.
Governor, if Kitty Dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer?
No, I don't, Bernard, and I think you know that I've opposed the death penalty during all of my life.
I don't see any evidence that it's the deterrent.
And I think there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime.
We've done so in my own state, and it's one of the reasons why we have had the biggest drop in crime of any industrial state in America, why we have the lowest murder rate of any industrial state in America.
Showing Human Side Forward Thinking 00:15:32
All that Dukakis had to do was show a level of empathy or political tact, which he was completely failed to do, instead of opting to be a slave to his message.
Dukakis would have done better to respond how I believe Trump would have responded by attacking the premise of the question and painting the media in a negative, unfair light.
But the trap that Dukakis fell in, and the one that Trump is more likely to fall in as it relates to this example, is this, that Joe Biden is perceived to have empathy, if nothing else.
I think that the more that Trump can show himself as a human being, as someone who is magnanimous, who's above the moment, the better.
Look, I know the president.
I know him personally.
I know him as a caring person.
I know him as someone who loves human beings.
That's why he ran for president.
It would serve the president well to show that side of him during the debate.
It's not dissimilar than Bill Clinton, who is the king of displaying empathy, sometimes in an inauthentic way, but still he came across as authentic.
And he did this in the H.W. Bush debate, where he revolutionized the town hall style of debate, responding to a struggling woman asking about the economy.
Clinton responds to, I feel your pain.
Play tape.
Tell me how it's affected you again.
You know people who lost their job and lost their homes.
Well, I've been governor of a small state for 12 years.
I'll tell you how it's affected me.
Every year, Congress and the president sign laws that make us do more things and gives us less money to do it with.
I see people in my state, middle-class people, their taxes have gone up in Washington and their services have gone down, while the wealthy have gotten tax cuts.
I have seen what's happened in this last four years.
In my state, when people lose their jobs, there's a good chance I'll know them by their names.
When a factory closes, I know the people who ran it.
When the businesses go bankrupt, I know them.
And I've been out here for 13 months meeting in meetings just like this ever since October with people like you all over America.
People that have lost their jobs, lost their livelihood, lost their health insurance.
Whereas when George H.W. Bush in that very same debate was asked about the national debt, he was talking about cutting spending and curbing spending.
They both had the same question.
And listen how H.W. Bush answered that.
It's a technocratic answer versus an empathetic answer.
Listen to how H.W. Bush answered that.
Play tape.
How has national debt personally affected each of your lives?
And if it hasn't, how can you honestly find a cure for the economic problems of the common people if you have no experience in what's ailing them?
Mr. President.
Well, I think the national debt affects everybody.
Obviously, it has a lot to do with interest rates.
It has a personal basis.
How has it affected you?
Has it affected you personally?
Well, I'm sure it has.
I love my grandchildren.
I want to think that.
I want to think that they're going to be able to afford an education.
I think that that's an important part of being a parent.
If the question, if you're, maybe I won't get it wrong.
Are you suggesting that if somebody has means that the national debt doesn't affect them?
Bill Clinton was at the best of, we're all in this together.
I feel your pain.
Where Donald Trump needs to do more of, you know what?
I hear you.
I feel you.
And that's why I fight for you.
Just that little moment, that little window into, I got it.
That's why I'm fighting so hard.
I got your back.
Something like that, where he's talking to someone directly, that is going to connect with tens of millions of people.
Many people in battleground states that are not yet voting for Donald Trump or voting for Biden actually agree with Trump on the policies.
They don't like Trump's personality.
This is an opportunity for Trump to show a human side of himself.
Not that he doesn't do it at rallies or other places, but this is when the most amount of people are going to tune in.
And going back to the Dukakis example, when someone asks about your raped wife, maybe you should address how horrendous that scenario is to begin with.
Dukakis just ignored the terrible hypothetical situation and went straight to policy.
Here's how Dukakis should have answered the question.
By the way, Dukakis was ahead of H.W. Bush by 18 points in August of 1988.
Here's how Dukakis should have answered the question.
If somebody raped my wife, you would have to prevent me from killing that person.
So I'd put a bullet in them.
Now, the reason I don't support the death penalty, because I don't think the government should do what my impulse always is.
But that's a disgusting question.
But he'd have to hold me back first.
Something like that, every single swing voter in the country would have resonated with that.
Every single one.
Instead, it was like, huh, raping of a wife happens every other Saturday.
And by the way, that's why I don't like the death penalty.
Like, what?
It was so insincere.
It was so out of the way that you should have.
People were saying, did you just say he raped like, do you not love your wife?
Like, what is going on?
And because that Dukakis fell terribly in the polls and H.W. Bush got re-elected, it was on the backs of the Willie Horton ad.
Here's what else President Trump needs to do.
President Trump needs to highlight himself as the candidate who can achieve results where Joe Biden has never achieved any.
By the time they did debate, Trump will have done more in 47 months than Joe Biden did in 47 years of Washington.
So here's the message that Donald Trump needs to just keep on repeating.
Joe Biden, if your ideas were so good, why didn't you do it over the past 47 years and eight years as vice president?
I'm cleaning up your mess in four years that you created in 47 years.
That's the thesis statement.
Everything has to go back to that.
Reminding people that Joe Biden is not an outsider, that Joe Biden is actually the incumbent.
While he might not be literally the incumbent, he is the metaphorical incumbent for the philosophy, the worldview, and the decisions that have been ruling Washington, D.C. in our country for the last four decades.
Donald Trump is the disruptor that needs more time to achieve his vision successfully of why people rose up in numbers for him in 2016.
Trump needs to highlight himself as the candidate that can do that.
In just the month that preceded this debate, Trump will have signed three peace deals, gaining two different nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize.
He will have nominated his third Supreme Court justice, doing more to change national policy with three appointments than Joe Biden did through the policy in this Senate or the White House.
But everything needs to be this: I'm the janitor.
You're the person who created the mess.
I'm cleaning up your mess, Joe Biden.
I got Iran in check.
I moved the embassy to Jerusalem.
I recognize the goal line heights.
I'm keeping China in check.
Joe Biden, you sold us out to China.
That is the framing.
Every time Joe Biden attacks Trump, he should respond calmly and gently by saying, Okay, Joe, why didn't you do that in 47 years when you're in Washington?
I did.
You locked up black people in prison.
I helped get them out correctly through the First Step Act.
You opened up the borders.
I closed the borders.
I corrected the 94 crime bill.
You wrote the 94 crime bill.
President Trump also needs to come across as vibrant, young, and energetic.
This is obvious to some people, but Trump has more energy and mental acuity than Joe Biden by far.
And here's one thing that President Trump has to do: he has to do it.
It's going to come across as something that you might not expect.
President Trump has to be the first person to smile.
President Trump has to smile before Joe Biden.
Donald Trump has a great smile.
And I will say, Joe Biden has a good smile too.
Pretty good.
It's all right.
Barack Obama had a great smile.
Mitt Romney, awful smile.
Hillary Clinton, the worst smile I've ever seen of any smile in the history.
When she was smiling, it looked like she was doing some sort of Machiavellian intercontinental takeover.
And by the way, Joe Biden might wear a mask, which just might kind of play into this whole idea that he's about to be admitted to the hospital.
And what's the over-under on the mask?
I don't know.
And by the way, email me your thoughts on whether or not you think Joe Biden's going to wear a mask and your whole thoughts on all this.
But Joe Biden's smiling about something.
People want to be excited about America again.
People want to be enthused about our country.
President Trump needs to be optimistic.
He cannot be doom and gloom.
And he cannot be overly defensive.
It needs to be a forward-thinking debate.
And he has to establish that early.
There's an old Soviet line that reminds me of Joe Biden.
The Soviet line goes like this: In Soviet Russia, the future is certain.
It's the past that we're not sure of.
It's perfect.
Meaning, Joe Biden is always trying to rewrite what already happened.
Joe, you've been here for a couple decades.
And you're trying to say you know what's going to come next?
Of course you don't know.
President Donald Trump needs to lean in and firmly and clearly say: the future under four more years of means more justices you can count on, a safe country, a stable country, safe communities, and a vibrant economy.
President Trump wins on the economy.
I hate to get back to just kind of how the corporate types in the Republican Party are always repeating these pre-rehearsed talking points, but there's truth to it.
President Trump's numbers on the economy are double-digit better than Joe Biden.
Say, Joe Biden will raise your taxes.
Lockdown Joe will lock down America again.
I got Big Ten football back.
It's about to be an exciting time to be an American.
Believe in me, and we're going to get through this together.
Boom.
That's the message right there.
Whereas Joe Biden's going to say, come on, man, you killed all these people.
Instead of being combative, Donald Trump must be dismissive.
Do not take Joe Biden head on.
He needs to be dismissive, kind of like an old nagging person that's just in your ear.
Like, okay, I got it.
Thank you very much.
Okay.
Just like constantly in your ear.
Enough.
Instead, Donald Trump has an opportunity here to really dismiss Joe Biden as someone who is very confused.
Here's what Joe Biden's strategy is going to be.
He's going to come out swinging, come out hard, come out with pre-rehearsed one-liners that will provoke Donald Trump.
He will come out with the Atlantic piece, I guarantee it, and say, you called my son a sucker and a loser.
Here's how President Trump needs to respond to the Atlantic story.
Joe, that's a lie.
27 people who were with me that day said it is not true.
And those are anonymous sources that have still not come to surface.
That is not true.
I would never say that.
But here's what is true.
Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton let four people die on September 11th, 2012 in Benghazi.
Joe Biden, you were the only one that said we should not go kill Osama bin Laden.
Joe Biden, every theater that you touched in the Middle East turned to chaos, from Libya to Syria to Iraq to Afghanistan.
Explain to me, Joe Biden, what record you have besides appeasing the Iranians and taking money from China.
I'm not even going to take that seriously at face value, and the American people should neither.
I'm now nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.
You should be nominated for bringing us closer to World War III.
That's the framing that President Trump needs to bring.
Dismiss, confront it a little bit.
Don't allow, just don't ignore it.
Don't ignore the accusation because a lot of people think it's true, and then transition.
So here are the questions that President Trump needs to be prepared for.
We mentioned the Atlantic story and also the COVID issue.
I mentioned this on a previous episode of the Charlie Kirk show, but if Joe Biden tries to pin COVID on Trump, then he needs to pin H1N1 on Biden immediately.
Say that you left my cupboards bare, and this is the top issue for Democrats.
You left the cupboards bare.
There is no personal protection equipment for us.
I shut down travel to China and you called that xenophobic.
President Trump also needs to be ready to tell the truth about the fires in California, that they didn't start because of climate change.
Texas has more forest land than California, and it's not on fire.
It's about forest management.
This seems small, but it points to a larger, more important difference than Trump and Biden.
Trump can go into depth and explain the intricacies of what needs to be done.
He did an entire segment on Mark Levin on this on Sunday.
Joe Biden can't.
He only lies and leans on the cudgel of climate change.
And again, why didn't Joe Biden do anything about climate change the last 47 years in office?
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Finally, Joe Biden's going to play the race card.
Joe Biden will try to incorporate BLM Inc. and provoke Donald Trump on the race card.
This is actually one of the most vulnerable issues for Joe Biden.
Donald Trump needs to say, Joe.
You and the Democrats have done everything you possibly can to misrepresent my position when it comes to race.
Unlike you, I have never supported busing.
I was not friends with segregationists.
I did not want to lock up black people and call them super predators in the 1990s when you authored the Clinton crime bill.
I did not call Barack Obama a clean-cut black man, the first of which I've ever seen.
I did not call the inner cities a racial jungle.
I did not say that you can't go into a 7-Eleven without a slight Indian accent.
I did not say if you do not vote for me, then you ain't black.
I did not say that poor kids are just as smart as white kids.
And I did not call a black journalist a junkie and say, come on, man, why don't you take a drug test?
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I didn't say any of those things.
You did.
I restored record funding for historical black colleges and universities.
I oversaw the lowest ever black unemployment rate in American history.
I saw opportunity zone investment and I helped pass the First Step Act.
While you caused racial division in this country and you judge people on the color of their skin, I don't.
I deliver results and opportunity.
You might not like the style that I go about doing it, but I get it done.
And right there is something that Trump needs to do.
He needs to admit that his style is not for everyone.
He needs to expose this vulnerability.
This is not something that the president, I think, is likely to do unless he is assisted or advised.
He needs to say this.
My style can be debated.
My results will not be debated.
Right there is a thesis statement for him.
It's like, you might not like the way I go about it, but I brought the Emiratis and Israel to the table.
You might not like the way I go about and do it.
However, I moved the embassy to Jerusalem.
I'm getting us back to the best economy in American history.
I have Gorsuch Kavan and hopefully a third Supreme Court justice.
Saying you might not like the style, but you can't argue with the results, that is a winning message.
Because a lot of what Joe Biden is going to try to do, try to be the magnanimous candidate.
Don't you agree with me that he's such an awful person?
Humanity, humor, smile, optimism, dismissiveness of Joe Biden.
Also, be prepared for the race issue to throw it back at Joe Biden.
Be prepared for the reparation issue.
Be prepared for the climate change issue, the COVID issue, and the Atlantic story, or anything else that they might be able to drum up.
If Joe Biden mentions his treatment of women, just say, Tara Reed, that's all I have to say, is Tara Reid.
Your VP said we must believe all women.
Therefore, you're a rapist, Joe Biden, according to your vice president.
Donald Trump has the upper hand in this debate simply because the Democrats have created rules of engagement that when it's applied against themselves, they shatter against public cross-examination.
This is exactly why Joe Biden does not take questions from the press because of their hypocrisy, the troubled record, and the corruption.
They are afraid for good reason to come up against any form of criticism.
The president will outlast Joe Biden.
He will.
He'll have more stamina.
He will do better.
He cannot start too hot too early.
He has to set the tone as the optimistic problem solver that gets stuff done for our country.
These debates, I think, are going to be the most watched thing on television in the history of television.
I could be wrong, but I don't know anyone who's not going to tune into this in one way, online and social media.
We're actually going to be doing a live reaction to the debate coming up next Tuesday.
And I've just been notified that the finale of MASH had 106 million watchers live.
I think that will be, I think Trump can beat that for sure.
I think Trump can beat that through all the different platforms.
There's no one that is not going to watch this debate, at least from the outset.
There's so many question marks.
There's so much left to be seen.
And maybe with clips and social media, it'll assuredly beat MASH.
Be prepared.
We must learn from past debates.
I know it's going to be can't miss television, and we'll have the instant response for you.
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