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critical thinking - 2-10-2020 #2 - Scum Wars - woo personalities & shit they say!

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	Hello.
	Make myself reasonably presentable.
	This is the second video.
	This is February 10th.
	This one's all about woo-woo stuff.
	Nothing at all about current events in real world.
	Just current events and woo-woo crap.
	And we've got some bigish current events.
	So just some of the things that just don't doesn't make any sense to me is, and that's why I'm just addressing a bunch of things here, right?
	Cleanup for last week and things.
	Let's see.
	So we've got Jordan Sather, who's out pimping for MMS, which was invented by Jim Humble.
	And he's been pimping this stuff for Jim Humble has been pimping it for a long time, and it's so wackadoodle that in order for him to not get arrested, he had to form a church and proclaim himself to be an archbishop in order to get this stuff out to you as a sacrament.
	Okay, so that's a little strange, that part of it alone.
	But what really is interesting to me is this follow-on, okay, the next generation here, which is Jordan Sather, who's pimping the MMS.
	And I come down to it this way, okay?
	Jordan Sather at least has enough on the ball as a capitalist, as an entrepreneur, to form his own little health food store, right?
	He at least has enough on the ball to get himself set up as an influencer, to have the YouTube channel to sell out of, and so on.
	So he's not like, you know, abysmally stupid or anything.
	And so it would seem that he's making certain rational business decisions.
	And, you know, you can question some of his business decisions, like, does an influencer really need inventory?
	Or if he had good dropshippers and could close the gap on the drop shipping and maintain control, would that be sufficient?
	You know, I mean, from a business perspective, that's a legitimate thing to consider as to whether or not you need to handle the goods yet one more time in order to get them to your customer.
	And, you know, and there's trade-offs and business trade-offs back and forth.
	And that's what business is, is compromise.
	You have a goal.
	You have what you think is a method to get that goal and to achieve that goal.
	And then you run into having to compromise in reality against everybody else's goals, what's available, et cetera, et cetera, right?
	And so all of business is trying to coordinate and make the most effective compromise among the many decision points you've got in your daily activities against a long-range plan.
	Successful businesses are good compromisers.
	They're astute and so on, right?
	Now, maybe Jordan Sather is astute.
	Maybe he has a warehouse going because he knows there's going to be supply issues relative to some of these products that he's got.
	And therefore, if he warehouses them, he has a backlog and he has some cushion against running out that maintains his income over time.
	So, you know, so there are decisions to be said or criteria, business decisions to be made against the evolving circumstances of our times that would suggest that maybe warehousing is appropriate, you know, as opposed to handling the goods again.
	So it's a surety issue against extra costs and handling and then the costs of warehousing, because bear in mind you're at risk if you warehouse.
	If there was a flood, you'd lose your goods, that kind of thing, right?
	So there's trade-offs back and forth.
	And that's what has always struck me as really odd about Jordan Sather's dedication to MMS.
	It's like, what's in it for him?
	It's one of these substances that's been blacklisted, blackballed for years because it causes problems, because it's an industrial bleaching agent that Jim Humble, in his insanity, decided cured this relative of his of malaria.
	There's no proof of that.
	This was simply his thinking, okay, that this person was cured of malaria.
	There's no proof the person was cured of malaria.
	There's no proof of any connection between the consumption of chlorine dioxide and that malarial remission.
	Okay, malaria goes into remission on its own.
	I know my dad's had it a couple of times, had it a couple of times when he was alive.
	So in any event, though, so what gets me is, here you've got this guy, Jim Humble, which is, he's not the greatest thinker in the world.
	He never was.
	He was not really all that articulate, but he had a business plan that involved him selling this stuff.
	He got dedicated to it for his own mental illness reasons and pursued it to the point where he had to face arrest or form this bogus church to get this stuff out.
	So he formed the bogus church.
	This is all what I'm saying is all like an encapsulation.
	Okay, so the details and the nuances are lost in this, obviously.
	But here we have a situation where we've got to get reasonably astute young man with enough acumen to at least get this far to where he has a decent YouTube channel in terms of subscribers, etc.
	So, you know, so there is some little, at least a little bit of thinking being demonstrated by Jordan.
	But then he gets tied up with MMS.
	And it appears as though he's like a worshipper, like a member of the church of MMS, because on one hand, he's putting his YouTube channel at risk because it's well known that YouTube and all of the social media don't like MMS and don't like ads for it, won't allow it to be promulgated, etc.
	So he's deliberately doing things going against the social media terms of service in order to continue to talk about MMS.
	And what's in it for him?
	If he loses his YouTube channel, there goes his ability to do sales of his business.
	So he's got a lot at risk trying to promote this stuff, right?
	He makes some profit if he sells it, but even if he made whopping huge amounts of profit on each and every set of two little containers that go out to make up the MMS, it's not that much huge profit.
	I mean, you can buy the stuff industrially in gallon-sized containers on Amazon for like $15.
	So even if he's, you know, putting it into little tiny containers and then selling the little tiny containers to you for $15 each, it's still not huge because he'd have to move, you know, what, about 75,000 of them to start really approaching serious money, taxes and everything else considered.
	He'd have to have huge product volume in order for it to be such a large profit center as to, in my opinion, motivate him to continue flogging this stuff against the resistance in the business and advertising communities to it.
	You know, it's a business decision.
	So it comes down to this.
	Say that I was promoting, you know, say that I had a good idea that aspirin cured toenail fungus or something, right?
	And so I decided to promote aspirin to cure toenail fungus.
	And I'm going to, you know, get out there and maybe I've had toenail fungus.
	Now I'm cured of toenail fungus.
	And I think aspirin is the greatest thing in the world for curing toenail fungus.
	And even if I was successful, even if I could prove everybody that took aspirin and had toenail fungus, maybe you had to crush the aspirin and put it on your toes or something, right?
	Something a little bit weird, right?
	So it just wouldn't be happenstance.
	If that was a case where people were the medical profession was and the advertising guys and the business and the social platforms were saying, you can't advertise crushed aspirin for toenail fungus, I would basically say, fuck it, I don't care.
	I'm not going to make enough money selling aspirin to cure toenail fungus as to give a damn, right?
	And if the universe doesn't want to support that approach to curing toenail fungus, who am I to argue with it?
	And, you know, I'm a businessman.
	I want to sell some, whatever it is I'm selling, see, and off we go, right?
	And so I would not spend my life trying, I wouldn't make it into a cause, basically, is what I'm saying.
	It appears as though that Jordan Sather has taken up Jim Humble's cause with MMS, and I don't see that Jordan Sather has the causal motivation.
	It did not, as far as I know, cure Jordan Sather of any huge diseases.
	He swears he's taken it and stuff.
	I don't know that that's factual, but it doesn't make any difference.
	As far as I know, I just, you know, that's the thing.
	That's what bugs me about this whole Jordan Sather and the MMS stuff is that I don't see that there's any profit or potential for profit or value being offered to him for his continued support of it.
	And in fact, it's hugely negative.
	He will admit he's had giant levels of interruption on him.
	In fact, I think you could probably say that almost all the interruption on his ability to sell on YouTube comes from pimping MMS.
	You know, in YouTube, they care about QAnon and the conspiracies and all that.
	But it's not like you can eat QAnon and kill yourself or shove QAnon in your butt with an enema and kill yourself the way you could with MMS.
	And I'm against MMS because this shit causes cancer in the gut.
	All right.
	And it's nasty stuff.
	And I don't see why anybody should promote that for, and nobody can tell me where there is a pathway for MMS to do any of these things claimed in the body.
	I can see where it's an effective bleaching agent, kills stuff on surfaces.
	It's most effective as a gas, of course, right?
	In a container.
	That's the way it's usually used industrially, is you gas stuff with vast quantities of chlorine dioxide in order to kill virus and bacteria.
	But the same stuff doesn't work the same way inside you.
	And you're a fool to suggest that that is the case.
	And so this is where I don't think Jordan Sather is an out-and-out fool.
	I think he acts like a butthead frequently and appears to have very little far thinking and very little clear thinking and seems to be caught up in this worship of this thing they call miracle, right?
	It's not.
	And even if it was against a wall of disapproval by society and by the guardians of society and by those individuals in that as guardians that control your ability to make a living, that doesn't strike me as a very smart thing to do.
	Okay, so that's it for Jordan Sather in the MMS.
	Now, MMS is being touted by a lot of people, especially Jim Humble, who can't think clearly as being a cure for coronavirus.
	And chlorine dioxide would probably kill coronavirus if you put it on a surface, right?
	And you had chlorine dioxide and a cloth and cleaned the surface.
	You can't get chlorine dioxide in a cloth because it gases.
	So, but if you gassed a room full of the stuff, he'd probably kill all the coronavirus in there.
	Then you'd open up the doors, the chlorine dioxide would evaporate, go out, then the coronavirus would come back in and you're right back where you started.
	Okay, there's no way chlorine dioxide can be used as an effective bleaching agent or disinfectant for coronavirus in your environment.
	There's also no way it can be used for that same purpose in your body.
	And if you ingest it, you will cause yourself problems.
	And we have now another person here who is Carrie Cassidy.
	And she's pimping Jim Humble.
	She's actually, sorry about that.
	She's actually helping him, actively helping him in her interview, okay, to put his viewpoint across because he's so poor at his expressing himself and is so bumbling and doddering in his thought process that she has to aid him in getting the ideas out.
	And I find that reprehensible because she's once again another person that is pimping MMS as a solution potential or real in her mind for coronavirus and problems.
	Carrie Cassidy does not think clearly about things.
	She's not a good analyst.
	She doesn't ask accurate questions.
	She doesn't have an accurate appraisal of herself or the people she interviews and cannot be trusted to provide you with people that know what they're talking about, in my opinion.
	Once again, anybody saying MMS is going to save you, serve you, help you, cure you for coronavirus is wrong.
	They may also be lying because they may know they're wrong.
	And so that is just something that we're going to have to go through as we go through this as a lot of people will get these weird ass ideas.
	And for whatever reason, they'll have a cause around it.
	We will have to deal with them.
	Maybe many of them will die out.
	We just don't know.
	But you don't want to mess with the coronavirus and take chances with things like MMS or this guy Keisha, who they're touting under this one cup, one life site.
	Keisha's products are as dangerous as MMS in their own way.
	It's a different kind of stuff.
	Keisha is truly insane in his thinking.
	It is incredibly deep and absolutely batshit crazy.
	His assumptions are totally wacky.
	And even he says that his science works because he has his own set of assumptions about reality.
	Since I don't share those assumptions and I don't share his common reality, I find his approach to be dangerous.
	And we also find that Keisha is one of these people that Carrie Cassidy promotes.
	I haven't seen her do it recently, but she has in the past promoted him.
	So if you hear Keisha, One Cup, One Life, you know, don't go there.
	Or if you go there, go with your eyes open.
	All right.
	So that's those set of woo-woo guys.
	Very briefly, Corey Good looks really, really ill in his last photo or last video.
	You know, sorry to hear that.
	I hope he gets better if it's the flu.
	I hope he finds a certain level of relief from all of that and gets calm about things because he obviously doesn't look like he's doing very well.
	Doesn't appear to be very strong or healthy.
	No word from David Wilcock on anything that I've heard of, but I'm sort of out of the loop and looking at other stuff anyway.
	You know, nothing that he's done recently to annoy me.
	So no point commenting on that.
	Now, the most recent annoyer, though, is this guy, James Gilliland, okay?
	And he is at eCity, which is, he says that stands for enlightened contact with extraterrestrial intelligences.
	This guy is yet another fantasist, okay?
	This guy, as I say, he smokes Ascended Masters, right?
	He channels Ascended Masters.
	He says Ascended Masters appear in near-physical form on his property.
	He says he's constantly in contact with invisible beings that communicate to him by making his ears ring.
	So tintinitis now is a sign that you're being contacted by invisible higher dimensional beings.
	That's how he phrases it.
	He always wants to put a higher dimensional spin on things.
	And his mind is very, like most of these people that are infected with this fantasyist thing.
	They think that they're thinking accurately because they have these deep thoughts and they get very involved with numeracy and it gets all convoluted and stuff, but they're not thinking clearly.
	And you can think yourself very deep into insanity.
	And I'm of the opinion that James Gilliland does not think clearly at all and that he lives by ritual and that he actually believes and has stated that he brought the rain to Australia that put out the fires because the higher dimensional invisible beings that talked to him by making his ears ring told him this and the rain followed them all the way around.
	And then he went to some level of work there or in communicating this idea to the other people in Australia in their recent tour.
	James Gilliland runs this ranch.
	It's over here to the southeast of Mount Adams.
	He claims to have all these contacts with extraterrestrials.
	He claims that all of these things he sees in his night vision goggles that are clearly insects are orbs, and that he claims that giant motherships come floating down or come screaming down at 1,300 miles an hour through the forest around his ranch, doing whoop-de-whoops and loopsy-loops and showing themselves to everybody.
	And he also claims that he's in contact with little cheap green Chinese lasers with motherships that are 100-plus miles up into the atmosphere.
	Never mind that the cheap little green laser is going to dissipate within less than a mile of actual atmosphere, given the atmospherics around here.
	He claims that he's so poor a judge or is so determined to be a salesperson that he made claims that Starlink's satellite clusters are streams of motherships that are chose to go exactly precisely over the top of his house in this straight line,
	except for these two that are off on the side that were his markers and they're communicating to him by some space congee or something, right?
	And so they're trucking over his house.
	The fact of the matter is they're not at UFOs.
	They're not unidentified at all.
	They're Starlink satellites.
	And the guy is just, you know, he's abysmally ignorant of technology, abysmally ignorant of chemistry.
	He thinks Keisha, he supports Keisha.
	He probably drinks MMS for all I know.
	But he does support the Keisha stuff.
	And such believing mind talismans are just like lucky charms.
	They're just like rabbit's foot.
	So he wears this plastic Taigon tubing collar around his neck that's got supposed Gans nanoparticles from a Keisha chemical reaction that is in fact just merely a carbonate filling it and says that he's protected by that.
	Well, it's the same kind of luck, you know, thinking, oh, well, that the rabbit's life ended because I shot him, but his foot's lucky to me, so I'm going to walk around with a dead rabbit foot in my pocket.
	Somehow that being lucky, right?
	And so it's that kind of ritual that James Gilland expresses in his thinking.
	Now, I think that it's much deeper than that, okay?
	It is my opinion that it's much deeper than that because he's constantly stating and categorizing, cataloging.
	He's got a huge taxonomy of all these interdimensional beings that can tell you what dimension they come from.
	And the dimensions go way up there in terms of number.
	And they're all animalistic looking and just really weird in terms of their descriptions from James.
	But in any event, he's got this huge taxonomy of them.
	And he keeps pushing this on everybody, making everybody by his own statements accept what he keeps saying.
	He keeps saying that the Ascended Masters come there all the time.
	They're there in near-physical form, and that these are well-documented cases.
	And it's like, no, James, they're not documented at all.
	None of us accept your documentation.
	None of us accept your wacky interpretation of night vision goggle videos.
	None of us accept these hoaxed photos.
	And I will say to you right now that Peter Maxwell PMS Lattery faked that photo that he presented to you.
	And that fakery is a particular kind of fakery, well known since the early 1900s with the fairy photos out of England.
	Okay, it's exactly the same kind of techniques employed, just translated over to modern equipment.
	And so he deliberately faked that photo, and you're a fool for taking his word that this Ascended Master appeared in this miniature form off on the side of his bed with that particular angle of light and all of this sort of thing.
	You know, you're a fool if you accept that.
	So I'm not saying you're a fool, but if you accept that, it's my opinion you would be extremely foolish to believe that man stating that that occurred that way.
	And that I think he's lying.
	Just as I know James Gilliland lied about what occurred this past July in that period of time when I was invited to go to his ranch.
	True, I was not invited by him, okay?
	And the whole brouhaha that came around that is what he is claiming, that I incited people to charge his ranch, charge his gate, assault his ranch, and assault his property.
	These are lies.
	I did none of those.
	And he cannot present any proof that I did any of these.
	Just as he cannot present any proof that any of his interpretations could hold on any of his photos or his videos could ever hold water against a rational mind examining them.
	That's why they will never let a rational mind examine any of their photos or any of this stuff.
	They always get these experts that are predetermined to support their positions.
	You'll note that they've never taken him to anybody that's disputed any of their claims, okay?
	And all of their claims are 100% bullshit.
	All of their ascended master channeling photos, all of the orbs, all of these kind of things.
	And yes, James, in my opinion, is running a cult.
	One of the telltale symbols of this is that he's trying to franchise this cult to other people that are co-conspirators, perhaps, but certainly are collaborators in the fakery.
	So there's ESETI Australia, which is run by this PMS Lattery dude who faked the photo up here in regular ESETI.
	And now James is trying to make a tie and create an ESETI in Mexico, also associated with some really fringe elements down there.
	So I find James to be untrustworthy.
	The reason that I say that is because I've talked to, as a result of my encountering him last July, end of last June, prior to the July 4th get-together kind of thing.
	And I encountered certain circumstances with him and thus investigated by calling local county and law enforcement officials around his ranch over there and talking to him about the circumstances there.
	I've also talked to these volunteers that work at his place and are never, ever, ever, ever paid or compensated for their efforts.
	And they tell me that there's very much a cult-like activity program going on.
	And they ticked off like nine or ten different things that are all clear signs that all the cults use, right?
	You never have a moment alone.
	You can't get outside contacts, you know, to all of these different kinds of things where they're constantly trying to keep your mind occupied and focused in on a particular reinforcing meme in order as a basically as a form of control.
	As much as James Gilliland will deny it, his actions and the facts of ESETI Australia, PMS Lattery, the approach they're taking there, all of these different kinds of things, and his extraordinary claim to aggrandizement,
	that he's a perfected individual, that he channels perfected beings, that the channeled perfected beings appear to him in real form, you know, nearly corporeal, and that he's able to call down extraterrestrials at a whim.
	All of these things are signs of an unbalanced mind or somebody who's attempting to make you think that they are something they are not, to make you think that they are not quite human or have these other abilities and that kind of thing.
	James Gilliland is an old, weak man, physically weak.
	Okay, he's got many health problems.
	You can see this looking at him.
	We all have health problems.
	All right, it shows up when you get old.
	But his denial of this kind of stuff is really interesting.
	And so anyway, he lied about me in a video.
	He lied about all of his photos and all of these other things.
	But who cares about that?
	That's his shtick.
	That's how he makes his people come to his ranch is by hoaxing all of this stuff.
	Well, you can go there and talk to Bigfoot.
	They'll come and talk to you at the tent.
	The ESETI boys got to talk to some Bigfoots there and see some bluebirds and that kind of thing.
	So it's all tied together.
	The Edge of Wonder Boys, I mean, not ESETI boys.
	But, you know, like I say, it's all fakery.
	But the lies that he told about me were that I incited violence.
	And that is explicitly untrue.
	He's also saying I told people to come and assault him or hassle him.
	And that's bullshit.
	I'd never do that.
	And there's no proof of that.
	And he'd better show that, be prepared to show that proof because I've determined that I'm going to make him.
	I'm going to make him show that proof or eat his fucking words, whether I have to take it to court or not.
	You know, he may just decide, oh my God, I don't want to get in with this shit.
	You know, I really, really stuck my fucking foot in it now.
	And he may take that video down, in which case, because I've got copies of it and stuff, I still, it's not an issue.
	But then I'll have to decide if it's worth continuing with a lawsuit against him, right?
	Of course, my attorneys are all for that.
	They make money off of this.
	And it'd give me something to do.
	So, you know, I mean, it'd be entertaining drama for a while, seeing how he reacts to all of this.
	But I would sue for slander and, you know, all kinds of stuff.
	Now, it is my opinion that James frequently acts as a butthead.
	That's not slander.
	I'm not claiming that he did any of this kind of stuff.
	Anything I claim that he says or did, I can find video evidence to prove that.
	I can find you a video where he claims that this, what I say is a diving falcon in a hunting swoop.
	He claims it's a 150-foot-wide UFO going 1,300 miles an hour through the trees.
	Okay, guy.
	All right.
	I've got the video where he says that.
	So, you know, if that kind of stuff gets into court, we can prove that he said that.
	Now, let him prove that I said go and assault his ranch.
	Let him prove that I said cause, you know, go and cause anybody any violence that way.
	And we'll see how it settles out.
	Unfortunately, that really does stray over the line.
	Okay.
	So James Gilliland and E. Seti, they lied to me.
	Now, they've been lying to everybody on the planet.
	Not my job to protect everybody on the planet from their lies.
	It is certainly within my area of responsibility to not end up suffering damage because he lied about something that he says I said, and I never ever did.
	So James Gilliland is certainly on my shit list.
	And I'm going to get into it and get serious about investigating James Gilliland.
	Because obviously, this man is lying about me maliciously to cause me problems.
	He's inciting his cult to take action against me individually and collectively.
	And as much as he's going to deny that, we have evidence.
	You know, we see it out and about.
	So now he's going to get the shit investigated out of him, just as part of the lawsuit.
	And we'll see what turns up.
	It's just a really hard time to have to be diverted by people making false, inaccurate, malicious, slanderous, and buttheaded statements.
	But he did it.
	And so there's the collective reality, and I'm going to have to deal with it.
	All right, so that's the woo-woo stuff.
	That's as much as I'm going to do now.
	One last housekeeping item.
	My particular product that I'm going to be bringing out sometime soon won't be in individual packages.
	This is the product that I developed based on the specimen plants coming out of the desert that I got from the guy in China some time back.
	We're going to do 30-day supplies, though.
	The issue is that the material is hydrophilic.
	It really likes water.
	And so to get it into little packages requires diluting it with all other kinds of crap or changing its character by pushing it under force.
	Even have lots of problems there.
	Or basically, at this point, abandoning the single serving pack, just going to a 30-day supply with a little scoop just to get it out the door and in people's hands because I'm making too much of it for all the people I had in my beta program, right?
	And they just said, oh, no, no, you can't.
	Don't cut me off now.
	You know, it works too well.
	So, and it's all about building your body up and this kind of stuff.
	We'll get into the details as soon as I've got a sample packet in my hand and I know we can do fulfillment because it'll be instantly into out of stock almost instantly.
	It won't take us that long to sell out our first batch.
	And then we'll see about getting into regular production.
	Maybe the 30-day supply is really the way to go for a while until we can figure out the actual mechanics of getting this stuff into small containers.
	I can do it if I keep everything really, really, really cold, but it's impractical in what's known as a pressing plant where they use augers, which create heat.
	If we keep everything super chilled, it seems to run really fine.
	But it raises the cost, not worth the trouble, so we've got to come up with another solution.
	Anyway, guys, so this is just a rambling, let's clear up some stuff here.
	I'll get into step by step by step by step all the goofy things that James Gilliland's been saying and all his bogus claims and statements as I go forward with my own investigation in support of my attorneys.
	So anyway, so be more to talk about as we go forward.
	Hopefully we'll have really good news coming out of the coronavirus stuff over the next few weeks.
	You know, something breaking.
	And in the meantime, check my other videos for the latest on that.

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