TikTok Communist Censorship & Everything Wrong With Leftists With Zachary Venable | OAP #60
Tiktok Communist Censorship policies are on a completely different level than what we have been facing on US based platforms. Conservative voices are continuing to see a disproportionate increase in the moderation, censorship, and banning of social media accounts across all platforms with a particular vulnerability on the CCP's app.
Zachary Venable joins Chase Geiser to discuss going viral, Trump action figures, woke culture, dating leftists, and communist censorship.
And I looked at your content, and it is absolutely awesome.
Very hysterical.
I can see why you've been banned so many times.
Not because anything you say is particularly offensive, but because it's particularly poignant, which seems to be enough of a reason for banning these days.
Well, they banned me for, I shared a clip of the Arizona audit hearings.
There was that really short moment of those Arizona audits where one of the auditors said that, you know, like 72,000 ballots had gone out without it having or had come in without it having had any record of being sent.
And they flagged that one for like election fraud, content that's banned.
And then obviously I told you they banned one of my videos because it had Goebbels in it, even though it was like an anti-goebles post.
And so it's just weird, man.
I guess it's the difference between the CCP and what we're used to in the United States in terms of freedom of speech, not to say that big tech is any friendlier stateside.
Well, and the thing that's kind of nice about TikTok, and I was very reluctant to join TikTok because of its association with the CCP.
And then I just kind of determined that all of the platforms were communists.
So I might as well be on TikTok.
But the thing that's cool about it is the way the algorithm is set up is you can get a big following fairly quickly again on a new account in a way that you can't really on the other platforms.
Well, I think the smart thing about what they did is I think they figured out that the key to growing a social media platform is to get people as much engagement as possible on the content that they create.
That's where the endorphins are.
That's where the addiction is, especially for kids.
And so if they can set up the algorithm so that new accounts are favored or videos get a massive amount of reach disproportionate to the number of followers that they have, then you're cultivating a rapid amount of engagement for your average user early on.
And that's kind of hooking them into the platform.
And so I think that's part of the advantage and what's so cool about the platform is that if you have no following or no base, you can still have a video that goes viral in a way that we haven't really seen since the early days of Twitter in terms of content virality.
And I know that fairly recently, probably within like the last two weeks, I think they actually surpassed YouTube in whatever stat you'd want to call it, like people watching video stat.
So I've been able to steer clear of generally speaking most of the world.
And it wasn't until I got in a relationship with this woman from California that I started like, oh my God, people are actually like this.
And I noticed over a span of like two years, it was just ever evolving.
It was changing definitions of words.
It's just literally everything.
And then I started kind of, I think I came across many of Ben Shapiro podcasts and I was listening to it and I was like, Jesus Christ, this sounds incredibly familiar.
And the more I looked into it, I was like, oh my God, this is exactly what I've experienced over the last two years dealing with this, you know, my girlfriend from California is essentially what all these, you know, the Democrats are doing.
The media does.
It's the gaslighting and the changing, you know, the changing definitions of words, stuff like that that kind of drew me in.
So I was able to like, I guess, I was able to relate to it.
It was more, I was more mystified in the experience of it because it's unbelievable how some people can just completely live in a different reality.
And that reality also happens to be whatever, you know, whatever helps them in the actual, you know, in the moment, in the moment of a conversation, regardless.
And the comparisons that you can make between, for example, my ex-girlfriend and Jen Psaki would, I mean, the comparisons there are, you couldn't tell them apart.
And I, you know, I find that, uh, I find that kind of ironic.
So that, you know, there's got to be more there to it.
Like growing up, I graduated from high school in 2010.
So growing up, you know, I always sort of had like a right-wing leaning just because I was a big fan of Ayn Rand.
I read The Fountainhead in High School, one of my favorite books.
But I never thought that politics would be a factor in terms of who I would wind up being with or who I would date.
Like, you know, there was a time, believe it or not, right?
10, 20 years ago, when you'd see Democrats and Republicans married to each other, and it wasn't really a problem.
They would vote differently, but it wasn't like cutthroat.
But now I can't imagine like sharing a home and raising a kid with somebody who is like a leftist and not like a Democrat, like, you know, traditional Democrats, like 90s Democrats or JFK Democrats.
That's not the problem.
But like a serious leftist.
It's so hard to imagine being in a relationship with a person like that.
Like, you know, There's really no good term for it because you know it's not, you know, it's not like necessarily a Democrat.
It's that leftist mentality.
So, you know, anyone, any type of liberal person that I've dated, I don't even think they were really into politics just in general, but it was the mindset of like, nothing's ever their fault for one thing.
And they're going to blame every single thing on you.
It's one thing about dating women that are liberal or have that leftist mentality is everything's going to be your fault.
And if it's not your fault, they're going to change whatever they have to to make it your fault.
Yeah, that actually is, that is my thing is I've done numerous podcasts regarding toys and I was real big into the YouTube toy game, the toy YouTube game.
So that's why I have all, you know, the equipment, all that to do podcasting and stuff.
And from there, I was like, okay, so none of these people, like, they're all idiots, you know, that are collecting toys.
They all have problems for the most part.
And, but I figured out a way it's like, okay, well, I can use that and kind of slip in occasionally like, you know, my political view because I started, it started taking things over.
And, you know, what I find ironic, because I'm pretty, well, I was, I, fairly recently, I kind of got out of it.
I, I, I don't want to say I was like canceled out of the whole comic book toy culture, but uh, I pretty much was.
But everyone in that community, they, they relate so much to this, you know, certain groups of the people.
So like in Star Wars, they, you know, they look at the rebels and they're like, you know, those are the real heroes.
It's like, right, not realizing that what they're doing and, you know, they're actually the bad guys in real life, you know, the people.
Meaning like I had a friend that was really, you know, when the virus broke out, was really big into making sure everyone gets, you know, wears a mask and does all of that.
And, you know, I was like, you know, you say you hate the Empire, but I mean, you know, you're kind of acting like them to certain degree.
I haven't seen it, but I can't believe that I haven't come across a Darth Vader meme yet of the take this mask off my face scene from the end of the Return of the Jedi.
See, the thing with me is like, no matter how much they ruin Star Wars, just as an example, I can't not watch them.
And as much as I despised the Disney spin-offs and the Disney trilogy in terms of the writing and the plot, the production was amazing and it still gave me the Star Wars feels.
And so I sort of, I guess I compromised my values in terms of watching those movies.
But, you know, there were things about it that I found incredibly irritating.
But man, I can't just, I can't say no to a Star Wars movie.
And plus that scene in the end with Darth Vader was just epic because we never really had a chance to see Darth Vader in full uniform actually doing anything intimidating because the old ones, he's just sort of stiff.
I don't know if it's the fan theory guy, but if some awesome videographer just basically cut it all up in Final Cut or something and did like a contemporary version of what that fight would look like if the movie had come out like two years ago.
And it's epic with Obi-Wan Kenobi flying around and jumping around and stuff.
I know the fan theory guy that you're talking about.
I saw one of his TikTok videos.
He had a really cool one where he had a video where he highlighted how Darth Vader said, Obi-Wan has taught you well when Luke Skywalker had the high ground on the Death Star or whatever shit that was in the Death Star.
And he cuts it back to Revenge of the Sith, where obviously Obi-Wan cut off Anakin's legs or Darth Vader's legs at the time because he had the high ground.
I've been told that because I'll kind of, depending on what I'm talking to, I'll kind of go into like these, these, these theoretical rants about like what I think should happen.
And I've been told numerous times, like, well, you know, that's the plot of Star Trek.
And, you know, I'm like, well, I don't know.
I mean, they're seen it, but I don't know, but something like at some point later, humans get to a point where we've, you know, like kind of like an eliter race and stuff like that.
I mean, obviously, you've seen Star Trek, so you know the plot is, but yeah, I just have no desire to watch it.
But I've been thinking a lot about, I've been thinking a lot about how entertainment and pop culture reflect what's going on in society.
And like, I don't know, like I said this on another podcast that I had.
Like even if you look at like fashion from before the economic crash in 2008, it was all about like being as flashy as possible.
And then like after that, the hipster movement came in after everybody lost everything.
And when I look at a lot of the stuff that's coming out today, it's sort of alarming.
Like if you look at Handmaid's Tale and how that ends and all these other shows, because my wife watches a lot of shows because she's raising a little baby.
She takes care of her baby all day.
And so it's like basically the theme of all these popular shows that seem to be coming out is like take justice into your own hands.
So like in Handmaid's Tale, they just basically all these women that have been persecuted the whole series in the end, they just beat the hell out of and murder this guy without a trial, you know?
And he was a bad guy, don't get me wrong, but it's just bizarre how we're seeing this kind of reflected in our pop culture.
Yeah, it's it almost lends the question like, you know, because it's kind of ironic that all of that kind of comes out or, you know, around the time where, you know, you can see it.
And maybe it's because watching that show, you know, makes you notice things that you would have noticed before watching it.
Yeah, so that's sort of an unfair comparison, but I see what they mean.
So basically, the whole plot of Handmaid's Tale is a remarkably small number of women are able to bear children.
And as a result of this, a radical Christian militant group gains power and overthrows the United States government and creates a new nation.
And as part of that nation, they basically kidnap and indoctrinate these women who are fertile.
And they force them to have children with these men that they don't want to have children with.
Right.
In order to keep the population active.
That's the whole plot.
So it's basically like the Christian version of Sharia law, but the reason it's not a fair comparison is because the whole premise of that story in Handmaid's Tale is that no one can have children, which is not the case in Texas.
And, you know, I don't know what you think, man, but between all of the platforms, I honestly think HBO is one of the best in terms of combating the woke stuff.
Like they made that show Chernobyl, which is one of my favorite shows of all time.
And I couldn't believe that a major streaming platform made an explicitly anti-communist series at least labeled it like that.
Long story short, though, is in the new one, they basically, instead of like putting it on North Korea or China, or, you know, instead of labeling them like, oh, you know, it's the China, the CCP is coming in, they made up their own organization of a, you know, a mixed mash of different countries, but they didn't actually say the countries.
And they did all that so that the movie would be able to play in China and they wouldn't lose out in that movie.
Well, we saw a little bit of that with like, I believe that China refused to screen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood by Quentin Tarantino because of the Bruce Lee depiction.
And he wouldn't cut it because it's his movie.
Fuck you.
Right.
And, you know, that's great.
But then when you look at like Disney, who really cares about the Chinese market, they have parks in China.
It's very important to them that all their major releases air in China.
They really, they really cater toward those narratives.
And even like small things, like in the movie Gravity, I believe with Sandra Bullock.
Was Sandra Bullock in Gravity?
They had compatibility between the U.S. space station and the Chinese space station, where in reality, there's no compatibility there.
All our compatibility, I believe, is with in actuality with the Russian stations and the Russian tech.
I'm not sure, but they switched it.
Top gun.
They took the anti-CCP shit off the uniforms, apparently, in the new one that's coming out.
And it's just a bunch of bullshit because these production companies want to make money off the Chinese market.
Which that right there shows you how corrupt that it's like, like if the CCP are going in and monitoring and screening those movies ahead of time, that means that they have someone doing it.
And you know, that person's getting paid a lot of money, chances are.
And it's like, that's a waste of money, I think.
So, you know, that's a good example as to how corrupt that country is.
Yeah, I know someone personally who works for Disney.
And this person's job in part has been to go through and identify what content needs to be changed in the parks.
So they're changing like what songs play, what the names of the rides are, because some of the rides are named after old movies that may or may not have insensitive content.
And this person absolutely hates that they have to do it because they don't hold that political perspective, the same view.
But that's this person's job is to go through and wokeify Disney in the park.
And I know that Disney's making a huge push to totally change its target demographic toward minority communities from its traditional base, which is fine if that's what they want to do from a business standpoint.
I don't blame them, but it's just a shame that they're compromising content that's authentic and there's nothing actually offensive about it.
It's just perceived that way.
And it's just too bad that we're compromising based on how things are perceived versus standing up for how things actually are.
And it seems like, I mean, they're just essentially catering to, you know, they're changing, you know, for example, I'm waiting for them to go change the Lion King or something iconic like that to cater to like five people on Twitter.
And you got to stop and think, like, you know, this is just not a good business strategy.
This is not, it's not smart.
It's not smart to, you know, make radical changes like this.
Essentially, it puts your entire brand in jeopardy, you know, to cater to smaller markets and stuff.
And what it comes down to is having one or two people at Disney in the right position with a certain view that can go and say, yep, we're going to listen to these three people on Twitter.
Well, we've seen the same thing happen at big tech.
And I know you wanted to talk about the Facebook whistleblower, but like you have these aggravated employees that raise a stink and throw a fuss.
And it spooks these corporations because they see a liability issue.
Like, what if our employees sue us?
And so they bring in diversity, equity, inclusion training programs and all this bullshit so that in the event that they're sued, they can say, hey, we did XYZ to make sure we mitigated any sort of discomfort among our staff.
And we've seen that.
And I don't know what you think about this Facebook whistleblower, but it seems to me like it's just total horseshit what she's doing.
Never underestimate the ability for the political elite to get something done in a very manipulative, sort of Machiavellian way.
But what I fail to see is I fail to see the incentive for Facebook to push that whistleblower.
But I do understand her personal incentive in that she gets all this press.
She could certainly get a book deal.
Congress obviously wants this to happen because they're looking for any excuse to have more oversight and control over big tech platforms, especially with elections coming up.
So I'm not sure that she's like a Facebook plant.
Maybe she is, but it seems to me that she certainly is an operative for the Democratic Party.
So I think they might have paid her off to do this sort of like Jase Ford thing.
I'm sure that I'm sure that Facebook is working in conjecture with it to some degree.
Their motives behind it.
I mean, I could possibly think of a couple given time.
I think it's, I would say like 80%, you know, the Congress and Democratic Party, 20% Facebook.
Facebook's not going to, you know, Facebook isn't coming out and being like, you know, someone's going, if someone was to go and, you know, start spewing all of my information about my company, I'd be pissed off.
But if I, you know, knew that she was doing it and knew what she was going to be doing and helped hire a press firm for her and all that, which is absurd.
I think the motivation is just, I mean, if you think about it, like Facebook company is not actually, I mean, a company's not really owned by Mark Zuckerberg to a certain extent.
You know, it's a publicly traded company.
So he's got to, he's got to listen to people.
And essentially, all these people are playing with everyone else's money to a certain degree.
So, I mean, getting tied in with the government like that, it wouldn't be the worst thing for them.
So, and it would take a lot of liability off of them.
I know that, because if they, you know, if they didn't have to, if they were to like take something down, they don't have to be like, you know, it's, you know, our decision.
So basically what she's saying is that Facebook has conducted internal research that has determined that its platform is psychologically harmful to children or young adults, like under like 18 and under, right?
And she is blowing the whistle because she claims that Facebook is hiding this evidence or being dishonest about the nature of it.
And she, as a result, is calling for Congress to intervene and regulate Facebook in order to correct the issue because she no longer believes that Facebook will correct it itself because she claims that Facebook is concerned with as much engagement as possible regardless of whether or not it's healthy or unhealthy for children, right?
And when I hear something like that, I'm thinking, all right, well, if you think Facebook or Instagram is psychologically harmful to children, to your child, just don't let your kid on Facebook or Instagram.
Like, you want Congress to come in and decide what's good for your kid?
I mean, that's one of the things that bothers me about like Bernie Sanders, whenever he posts about, you know, we need to have free preschool for children before kindergarten so that parents can work or whatever.
And so that kids can have a better education and be more well prepared.
And I was a lobbyist in Tennessee for a little while.
I know for a fact that all the data shows that the pre-K shit doesn't really have a long-term impact on success for kids.
It doesn't have an impact on higher graduation rates.
The pre-kindergarten stuff is basically negligible.
You're basically just babysitting at that five and underage group, right?
And really what concerns me about this is that if we're handing our kids over for nine hours a day to a state-run organization from the age of three on or four on, then who's actually raising your kids?
And catching them that young, they got them at that point.
Like, you know, you catch someone like, you catch a kid at three.
I mean, look at, look at Tiger Woods' dad, made him start golfing at two.
And look at, look at, look at what, you know, so it's like when they get them young like that, they're going to, they'll, they'll indoctrinate him in whatever they want.
And yeah, I think there's an argument to be made against the fact that obviously Bernie Sanders wants your kids to go to school as early as possible so that you can go out and work and pay taxes so that he can take that money from you.
See, but like, how, how effective do you think that public education is at actually manipulating children?
Because I don't know about you and I don't know what it's like to go to school now, but I know that when I was in school, and maybe this is just my personality type, I was very antagonistic toward what I was being taught or told.
I was sort of like a, you know, another brick in the wall type kid, you know, like, what the fuck do you know?
I had that kind of idea mentality.
It was true in a lot.
I was skipping.
You know what I mean, though?
Like, like, nobody taught me anything in high school that like brainwashed me to love the state.
And I think it's that and because of that, it creates social circles, which I think social circles is one of the major factors in how people behave now in society.
And also what's now considered work culture.
I think that is one of the worst.
I think that's one of the most destructive things in this country, especially in California, all these big tech companies.
Everyone wants that work culture where you got to think the same thing.
You got to eat the same thing at the same time.
You got to live on the work campus and all of that.
And it creates these type of people that identify as like, you know, they take on that identity.
Like, you know, oh, I'm a Facebook employee.
That's their identity.
And it's simply because they're engaged in that whole life pretty much 24-7.
Their friends work there.
They eat there probably every day during lunch for dinner.
And what happens is they'll get fired and their world just falls apart, which is one of the downsides of it.
But I think a lot of what they do online with all these tech companies stems from just a toxic work culture that they're all in.
You know, and one of the things too that concerns me is just the nature of the algorithms and how these platforms have garnered so much engagement is the echo chamber aspect of it.
And I'm not just concerned about, I'm not just concerned about echo chambers for the left, okay?
I'm concerned about echo chambers for myself because I know that of all the things that I believe, there must be some things that I am totally full of shit on.
But I have no way to see alternative views unless I really dig.
Right.
So like, when I'm scrolling through TikTok, I see pro-capitalist shit.
I see anti-Federal Reserve stuff.
I see pro-block blockchain stuff.
Like, and I know that there's got to be some, there's got to be Bizarro Chase out there somewhere seeing equally stimulating, equally, you know, well thought out, opposing viewpoints.
Like, and I just don't have a way to access that content because these algorithms have determined that I'm more likely to engage with my echo chamber, right?
And so like, what can what can we do as like just individual Americans or just individual people to make sure that we're not full of shit in light of these echo chambers we're stuck in?
Over the last three years, I've fallen victim or prey to a lot of people that were, you know, indulged themselves in echo chambers where they forgot that there's a possibility that they can be wrong.
And humans can easily do that.
I mean, if you got a bunch of yes men around, it kind of distorts your reality and it distorts how you, you know, it makes you, lack of a better word, makes you a fucking terrible person.
A lot of people that I've met through like them watching my videos and stuff, they were appalled that I was a, you know, I was just a racist, terrible person because I did a video reviewing him, which the company I made this sent it to me to do a review.
So it's not like I even bought it, which I, you know, I would have bought, I would have bought it still.
But yeah, so, you know, that's just an example of how everyone in that in that atmosphere is liberal.
So all of my friends are liberal.
And I see, when I get on my personal Facebook, everyone's, you know, telling everyone that, you know, mask up, you know, all these liberal talking points.
So I don't know.
I get the point you're making.
I just, I feel like I know enough to where I can sit and say, generally speaking, you're probably right about most things that you think because I've seen the other side of it and it makes no sense.
But everybody feels that way about what they think.
That's what scares me.
Like, I feel the same way, man.
I feel like I'm right about most of the things that I think.
Like, of course I do.
Otherwise, I would think something else.
But that's what scares me is, you know, am I so self-righteous or so arrogant to think that I just happen to be right about everything and they're full of shit?
Because there's a lot of smart people on the left too, man.
There's just a lot of dumb people that think they're smart.
Or you say a lot of people that think that they're so smart that they don't need to actually learn.
They don't need to, you know, consider that they might be wrong.
And I've seen a lot of, if you were to like name 10 things, 10 topics, you know, be it political or whatever.
And I could go in and be like, yeah, no, you're right there because I've seen like how the other, you know, all of my friends think the complete opposite of what I do.
But their way of thinking, it just makes no sense because it can easily be destroyed.
It can easily be broken up.
It's like, well, if you think that, then how is this possible?
If you want this, then how is it that we can have that?
And it, you know, it just doesn't make any sense at all for the most part.
Because I was talking to my wife the other day and we both voted for Trump.
And, you know, if he runs in 2024, which I think he will, I'll vote for him again.
But I kind of didn't want him to run.
I wanted him to run for Congress and be Speaker of the House.
But if he's going to run, I'm going to support him.
Okay.
And my wife was like, man, my wife, you know, she came up in the, she was a ballet dancer and a professional one.
And so all of her friends growing up, the vast majority of them in college, close friends, like dear friends, roommates, stuff like that, people that you think that you would be friends with the rest of your life.
You know, most of them, of course, are left-leaning.
It's a very artistic specific community.
And she said to me, she's like, if Trump wins in 2024, that's it for our friends.
Like, there's no way they're going to hang.
Like, they're going to be so pissed off that they will just cut us off.
And do you think that's how this is going to play out in the event of a 100%?
Well, the California one, I had to, I went through a lot.
So it's like, that was just, you know, that's a Tuesday afternoon.
So I don't really get hung.
I don't get hung up too much on it.
And I chalked it up.
So it's like, okay, you know, I was with this, you know, we were together for like six or seven months and she left and told me I was an awful person because of a hat I wore, essentially.
Yeah.
And, you know, good writtens.
But then obviously she apologized and tried coming back.
You know, just one of the things, too, that seems to be different between the left and the right is if you were to ask me as someone, and I'm very right-wing.
I mean, I'm so right-wing that I think the Republican Party is socialist.
And if you were to ask me, you know, things that Trump did that I disagreed with, I could go on a tirade about things that he did that I did not like, despite the fact that I'm a big supporter, right?
Yeah.
And I don't feel like anyone on the left could really go into a tirade about like what Biden's done wrong.
I mean, these people are even defending the way that he left Afghanistan.
And that's just like blatant.
And so I think there's a little bit of a difference there in terms of tolerance.
Like, and I'm not, I don't think I'm special.
I think if you asked a Republican, hey, what are three things that Trump did that you disagreed with?
They'd be like, oh, well, I didn't like the way that he allowed the mask mandates to go as long as he did nationwide.
I didn't like the way he overspent or I didn't like the way that everything that he got done, he got done with the executive order.
So as soon as Biden got elected, he was able to undo everything because none of it was passed with Congress.
Like that's just off the top of my head things that I could say that are critical of Trump, Trump's presidency.
I still love the guy.
I still support him.
I still like way more of what he did than I dislike.
But it's easy for me to identify things that he did that I abhor.
Right.
And I don't think you could go to someone on the left and say, listen, what are some things Biden is doing that are really pissing you off?
Like they just, oh no, I think he's pretty much doing a good job.
Yeah, he's apparently like one of the head guys at Media Matters.
And he tweeted: the notion of a national debt limit is so almost almost metaphysically absurd that debate around it is the political equivalent of counting angels on pins.
And it's aside from being able to break all that down into a bunch of things that would be like, it makes no sense, but it's like, how do you even, what do you say to that?
You know, you almost can't say anything to that because it's just that, you know?
Not to mention, essentially, you know, money, money in a way is metaphysical.
And by, you know, because it's metaphysical, we need a debt ceiling to keep us from just acting more and more like it's metaphysical.
We just keep printing money, printing money.
You know, the debt limit is a deterrent, you know, which is essentially what most of the democratic systems we have are.
They're deterrents.
I mean, when you start breaking it down like that, it just makes no sense at all.
Like, you can't just take something and then, you know, say it's something else and that be the case.
So I basically tweeted, you gave me the idea for a tweet where I just said raising the debt ceiling to avoid defaulting on debt is the equivalent of taking out a personal loan in order to pay off a credit card.
You're not solving the problem.
And so, yeah, I mean, this whole debt ceiling.
And that's the problem with fractional reserve banking, right?
Is when the Federal Reserve, when the central bank gives money to these banks, they're allowed to lend out 10 times the amount of money that they have in deposits.
And actually, they decrease the minimum requirements, I think, to 0% during COVID.
And so what you do is you create more debt than there actually is money to pay off.
And so what we have is this cycle in the United States where we always have to raise the debt ceiling in order to avoid defaulting on debt.
And that's not sustainable.
That's just why we were supposed to be on a gold standard.
No, and to go further into that is so before we enacted, I don't know exactly when, before we enacted the, you know, essentially the debt ceiling, we used to, back in the day, we used to have to pass legislation.
It used to have to go through the system anytime we wanted to take out debt.
And it should be like that.
Being able to take out debt should be as hard as possible.
They should make it as hard as possible because that's the only thing that keeps us from just, well, let's just print money.
Let's just do, you know, let's just keep taking out debt.
It's, you know, I get, you know, you got to, it's like you got to take today's problem and you push it back because you almost have no other choice.
But for every day you push it further, it's going to be harder and harder.
So when it does blow up, and it most likely will, it's going to be bad.
I mean, most people, it blows my mind how many people don't understand the 2008 financial crisis, how close we almost came to just a global economic collapse.
And when that happens, you can kiss society goodbye.
