Eric Jackman | The Best Impressions Of Donald Trump & Alex Jones In One Podcast | OAP #39
Chase Geiser is joined by Eric Jackman.
Eric Jackman is, without a doubt, the politically sharpest and funniest Donald Trump impersonator on the planet. His razor-sharp wit, combined with his up-to-the-minute grasp and in-depth knowledge of real political issues and popular culture put him miles ahead of other Trump impersonators. With Donald Trump's voice and mannerisms, without rehearsal, at any time, Jackman is able to stream a hilarious Trumpian monologue that combines politics, pop culture, and social commentary to the delight of anyone within earshot. Simply engage him on any topic, and you'll be treated to smart, side-splitting Trumpian oration.
Jackman, around home in Rindge NH, had been honing his Trump impersonation for years, among other comedic endeavors. He finally brought it into public view with a very big splash beginning in 2016, initially by turning up at Donald Trump rallies during the US presidential primary campaign. Sure enough, the president-to-be noticed Jackman, called him out, and had a great laugh with him. Suddenly, Jackman found himself being lauded by press from across the USA and Europe, and acclaimed as among the best Trump impersonators in the world by CBS News. See the Press page for a sampling.
Jackman began fielding requests to appear as Trump in comedy venues, on local talk shows, at mock debates, and at other events, garnering further press attention and acclaim. He also began accepting invitations to appear as Trump at corporate and other private events. Jackman is now heard as the voice of Trump for Fusion TV's animated shorts and appears on the show The Feed. His impersonation of Trump magnifies the essential qualities of Trump, and rings true. This creates great appeal to pro-Trump, anti-Trump, and Trump-neutral listeners, each agreeing that Jackman reflects Trump's essence with remarkable accuracy.
A true student of politics and pop culture, Jackman and his brother Mike also host an irregularly published podcast called Jackman Radio on which they interview guests and discuss the latest topics breaking in the American public consciousness. Jackman Radio launched its first live, public event in March, 2018. Jackman makes it a point to study politicians closely and has made the effort to meet and speak with many, a sampling of whom can be seen on the Photos page.
If you're looking for a hilarious, unique comedy and entertainment experience for your next event, look no further than Eric Jackman as President Trump! Having the uncanny ability to improvise on the spot or learn an entire speech, Jackman can customize the Donald for all audiences, persuasions and parties. With the distinction of being one of the only impersonators photographed with the real Trump (and getting the Donald's thumbs up), he continues to appear on television and news programs around the world, and perform at venues across America.
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Dude, thanks for having me on.
It's a pleasure to be here with you.
Thanks for hanging out, man.
I saw you on Reed's podcast, Naturalist Capitalist, with the Four Horsemen.
And I thought, man, I want to hang out with that guy.
I could tell he's hilarious, even though Ryan Dawson just talks over him.
Well, you know, I got pretty bombed there in that last Four Horsemen.
I just drank all day that day.
You know, I knew it was pretty irresponsible.
I was just coming off three months of not drinking at all.
I set a goal to do 85 days without a drop of alcohol.
You know, I'm Irish, so it's in the blood, man, that I was born with a beer in my mouth.
Instead of having my mom's breast milk, there was some Guinness that came out.
But yeah, no, the Four Horseman has been an amazing ride so far, no pun intended.
And we try to get on, you know, pretty based people to be the fourth horseman.
We haven't had a female yet.
Although, I don't know, maybe Clint might identify as a woman next week or something.
Him and Reed got a, they got a whole thing going on.
I'm a little jealous I did with Reed where I dressed up like him.
Yeah, your name, you had your name, Creed Roverdale or something.
Seed Roverdale.
But no, the Four Horsemen has been awesome, man.
And I've seen a lot of growth in all my socials with it.
And I want to thank anyone who's watching who's a fan of the show.
I want to thank you for checking it out and promoting it.
And we're going to keep doing it once a month.
People want us to do more, but I think having it once a month builds up the anticipation.
And you want to have less is more with that because we go over two hours sometimes and hit some topics that a lot of other people won't talk about.
But yeah, I appreciate that.
I can't believe that they, I don't know if you saw what I kind of launched like a little baby campaign this weekend called hashtag you ban we block and like it sort of was inspired by um ryan dawson because it's like why the fuck did they block him i mean the dude's definitely he's definitely an edgy dude but he's not like a he's not by any means a bigot like kind of quite the opposite you know man no run um well and i was just go ahead oh sorry yeah no he goes hard in the paint um against
Israel and against Zionist interests and he's very honest about things kind of to a point where it's like just black and white and that hurts people's feelings and you know I can tell you a funny story how I had a live comedy show podcast all planned at a certain venue and that venue canceled my brother and I from performing there because they took issue with us having Ryan Dawson on our show before he's a guest really yeah which venue was that was it like a uh it was up here or something
it was up it was up here in New Hampshire um you know it's a small town area I don't want to like drag them through the mud and fling shit at them but um the bottom line was we had the show booked and this is a special we're putting out it's going through the second round of edits right now we hired a high-end professional film crew to come up and film it professionally we hired a sound team so we had all that in place and then the two weeks before the show the venue emailed my brother
we don't know who it was someone complained or someone took issue went through our guest we've been doing jackman radio for six years I've had dozens of guests on.
I've had Ron Jeremy on.
I've had fucking Roger Stone on, you know, just you name it, man.
Through the spectrum, you get it.
You get it with your guests.
So someone took issue and complained and said, Yeah, we have a problem with this Ryan Dawson guy.
We went on his website, anti-neoconreport.com.
We saw Confederate flags.
We saw him worshiping the Unabomber.
He's a Holocaust denier.
You know, X, Y, and Z, the tropes, the tropes in the sphere.
Are you a Holocaust designer?
No, I am not.
Okay.
I don't know.
Is Ryan?
No, well, that see.
So that's that's the bullshit brush brushstrokes that he's painted with because he's a historian and he's a researcher and he talks about shit that is uh third rail kind of stuff.
And I don't, I don't know a lot about you know what he's looked into with World War II history.
He has talked about the access perspective of World War II.
Like why did the Japan bomb why did Japan bomb Pearl Harbor?
You know, the civilian deaths anybody even really says that they shouldn't have today.
Well, yeah, sure.
Historians are like, of course they bombed us.
They needed oil.
We were cutting off their energy supply and it was a military target, of course.
And that doesn't mean you're siding with the Japanese when they bombed you because they don't have to do it.
The explanation is not a justification.
Right.
So Ryan is a stickler for all that stuff on all sides of the conflict.
And when you talk about some of that shit, you get into hot water.
But aside from that, you know, he's from the South.
He's big into Southern history and the Confederacy and researching it and talking about it and educating people on it.
And it's a perspective a lot of people just don't know about.
They're not familiar with.
And they just see a flag, they see a Confederate flag and they automatically think hate, racism, and all the above.
And I would never fly a Confederate flag.
I don't believe in the Confederacy.
I don't promote it or anything like that.
Ryan is free to do whatever the fuck he wants.
He's free to say whatever he wants.
You know, I don't lose sleep over that.
But they saw that and took issue with it and banned us from performing there.
So we had two weeks to scramble to find a new venue, come up with a new sound crew.
And it sucked.
People had already bought tickets.
But anyways, we pulled it into the local synagogue.
Right.
No, we did it at a Legion, a place called the Jaffrey Legion, which is kind of a rough and tumble, old school kind of thing.
I don't know if you've ever hung out at a Legion or a VFW much longer.
I'm a Freemason, so I know what those guys are like.
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So we pulled it off.
40 people came out to see us.
The audience had a great time.
We talked about a lot of cool shit, a lot of real shit.
And the team's editing it right now.
We're going to put it out in our YouTube channel on Jack and Radio as a special called Jackman Radio Live from the Legion.
So I'll be sure to send you the link, Chase, and I'd love to get your review on it.
Oh, yeah, I'll promote that.
No problem.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
And now you and your brother, you guys are twins and you guys perform together a lot, or do you guys have your own independent thing that you do?
Yeah, so we're twin brothers.
I'm two minutes older.
I always hold that over him.
And yeah, we're going to be 35 this October and just our whole lives.
We discovered we had this ability to mimic our family members at holiday parties and make fun of them.
So that was like our first captive audience.
We didn't do impressions of our aunts and uncles, our grandparents.
I mean, my dad's family and my dad were all originally from Newfoundland, Canada.
So my grandfather sounded like a pirate, something between like a drunken Irish sailor and a pirate.
And I was fascinated by his accent.
So that's kind of one of the first guys I ever impersonated because I grew up hearing my dad, my uncles, impersonate him, saying, Barry, what the hell is wrong with you, Barry, you're a near-doel.
And I was just fascinated that a human sounded like that.
So that was like, you impersonate your family first, and then at school, we would impersonate our favorite teachers.
We would get their permission to go up in front of the whole school during talent shows and do their impressions in front of the whole school and all the staff.
And it just, people loved it and it went over well.
So that turned into making fun of politicians, impersonating politicians.
So impressions have always been part of our repertoire.
And we're both big into politics and acting and performing.
And we've had the Jack and Radio podcasts since 2015.
And yeah, we do it all together.
Awesome, man.
That's awesome.
Yeah, it's been an amazing time.
And you got Roger Stone on.
So, Roger.
See the fucking email.
Oh, Roger Stone.
I answered one of his classified ads looking for a third, you know, for some, for some cuck action, for some swinging down in Florida.
Tattoos, welcome.
Yeah, well, you know, he heard that I had a Lyndon Johnson tattoo on my back.
He's got Nicks in it, so we'd figured we'd put the two together.
No, Roger Stone had a book out, The Clinton's War on Women, leading up to the 2016 election.
And I was connected with his publicist, who also represented Jesse Ventura, who I've had on my show a couple times.
So it was like basically a layup.
I just connected with him on Twitter.
This was before he was kicked off Twitter for calling Don Lemon a cocksucker, which was really based.
I don't know if you remember that.
Is Don Lemon suck cock?
I mean, I think that he's a gay man.
Yeah, yeah.
I think Roger Stone.
If there's nothing wrong with being gay, then it's not harassment.
Well, they're turning the frogs, gay, Jason.
But Roger Stone.
He got kicked off Twitter for that.
But before that, I would DM with him on Twitter.
You know, I'm the original Guccifer.
I'm the original Democrats.
You with him on Twitter?
Yeah.
Well, we'd DM and then DP down Florida.
We've been out of the Everglades down in Florida.
We'd get some Gators up our ass.
We'd, you know, eat some jumbo shrimp down there.
We'd stop off in New Orleans with James Carvelle, eat some jambalaya.
But yeah, Stone was an interesting guy.
We had him phone in and chatted with him for an hour.
And the quote from that interview was, I have it on good authority that Hillary Clinton has eaten more pussy than Bill.
And I was like, oh, well, Ryan Dawson's cousin was.
You got to have something in common when you're fucking married.
Ryan Dawson's cousin was Hillary Clinton Secret Service detail.
So he got some stories.
Tell me one.
Which blew my mind.
Oh, that there were women coming and going all hours at the White House for crooked.
Basically, you could sum it up.
We have some family friends that worked at some resorts or whatever in Florida, and allegedly there was just sort of women.
Yeah, I mean, who cares?
No one gives a shit.
How do you keep that kind of a thing a secret?
Like, you think these hookers and shit would just be like talking about it?
Like, hold on.
Hey, man, they had it.
I did the job I had this weekend.
They had Epstein bottled up, dude, for how long?
They can keep shit quiet.
They can keep shit quiet.
But yeah, so we've been doing Jackman Radio six years.
Roger Stone was a cool guest.
He phoned in.
I had Jesse Ventura call in, and then I actually did an in-person interview in New York City at a place called the Nighthawk Cinema in Brooklyn with Jesse Ventura for an hour.
One of the coolest days of my life.
I had an hour with him.
I could ask him anything I wanted.
He doesn't screen any questions, just a free-form chat.
And then later that day, I went to a David Icke seminar in New York City.
I personally think that dude's full of shit, but I would be fascinated to listen to him.
Oh, he's so anti-David Icke, you know.
Oh, well, you're open-minded, man.
He's a fascinating guy.
And what I admire about David Icke is he's been saying the same shit for 30 years.
And he was saying it in the wilderness when people were booing him, making fun of him, calling him a nutter.
So correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't he believe that like the fucking spires and churches are like directing the energy during worship straight to the aliens?
It could be shit all like that with like reptilian.
I don't know.
Yeah, he's into all the reptilian stuff.
You know, he loses me in a lot of that stuff.
But where he doesn't lose me, where he's right on, is he was talking about elite pedophilia in the very early 90s.
And Ted Heath, who was prime minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, serial pedophile, probably a child murderer, X, Y, and Z. David Icke had the balls to be a singular lone voice in the wilderness shouting about that.
And he was ultimately proven right about it, among other things.
He talked about Jimmy Saville, who's a record-breaking pedophile.
So Ike has always had the balls to talk about.
Yeah, he's beyond the Guinness book.
But no, those were David Icke's words to me.
I had David, I interviewed him last year, but the video got deleted from YouTube.
I'd have to find it in its memory hold.
find it for you but he said what they what they delete it for just like like a slander or libel just like yeah it's just making accusations Yeah, it's just X, Y, and Z, all the same shit they say about Ryan Dawson.
But no, you know, David Icke was an interesting guy to talk to.
So, you know, I get this, the feeling about you, Chase, is that you talk to people and you don't necessarily agree with them on stuff or on everything, but you're open to having a dialogue and having an exchange and having a conversation.
So that's really been the point of Jackman Radio, why I have the podcast and why I've had on the various guests that I've had on.
It's just a lot of fun and I enjoy doing it and people have really enjoyed listening.
Yeah, well, that's awesome.
And yeah, like you said, you know, with this show, I try to have, it's hard to get the first people on because a lot of like super leftists don't want to come on because my shit tends to be like stereotypically right wing.
But I hang out with like libertarians almost more than anything.
And I'm not really a libertarian.
I believe like in more government than libertarians, but I'm close and I'm much closer to a libertarian than I am probably a Republican.
Sure.
But I want to hang out because damn, like if libertarians and Republicans work together, it would make a hell of a lot of sense because there's a lot of common road before that forks.
You know, like there's a lot of work we could get done together before our disagreements would even matter, you know?
Yeah, well, I think the big picture stuff, most Americans are on board.
But what happens is there's just so much gasoline put on these stupid cultural issues and shit that doesn't ultimately matter and divides us and distracts us, angers us, and keeps us, you know, taking our eye off the prize, which is that not only our country, but our world is run by gangsters and by criminals.
And they systematically use the laws, the courts, the criminal justice system, the prisons, the media, everything to fuck over the rest of us.
There's a set of laws for the super wealthy and the elite, and then there's the rest of us.
So if you kind of have that as your launch point and your starting point, you can find common ground with pretty much anybody.
Yeah, I think that's a really good point.
I also think that you're familiar with the movie Billy Madison, of course, right?
Adam Sandler.
It's been years since I've seen it, but that Veronica is one fine piece of piece of ass.
Believe me.
I know from experience.
Sandler's like, no, no.
Is that the last Chris Farley movie?
No, I think almost the Western Adventure one.
Ooh, I didn't see that.
What the hell was it called?
I saw the Beverly Hills Ninja.
Beverly Hills Ninja with Robin Shu from Mortal Kombat.
That was a good one.
But I'm going to look it up right now.
That Billy Madison was later, though, for sure.
Jamie, can you Google this for us, please?
Chris Farley.
Look that shit up, Jamie.
We need our own almost heroes.
Almost heroes.
I never saw that.
1998, aside from an unbilled cameo and the Norm McDonald vehicle Dirty Work, Chris Farley's last movie credit is the Western comedy Almost Heroes with Matthew Perry.
And I saw it 100 years ago.
It probably warrants a rewatch.
The reason I brought up Billy Madison is I think that you and your brother should do a version of Parent Trap similar to Billy Madison, where you're like adults and you're forced to go to camp because you never went to camp when you were kids or something.
You realize that you're fucking brothers.
Wouldn't that be hysterical?
I bet Hollywood would fucking do that with you guys.
There's so out of ideas and original stuff that they might just go for it.
They might just go for it.
That's funny.
I don't know, man.
You should write it up and send it in.
Yeah, send them the treatment, see what they think.
Fuck yeah.
Yeah, you can basically use the same script.
Just get Disney to do it.
Yeah, everything's boiler point.
Get Disney to do it, but also don't be critical of China.
Don't say anything bad about the Chinese.
What if you had the whole thing set in China?
That'd be pretty cool.
You guys were the only white guys at the summer camp, you know?
Well, it's not a summer camp.
It's a Uyghur camp.
We have it set outside of a Uyghur camp, and it's a parent trap, but only at a Uyghur camp.
And it's also a Nike factory and a Martha Stewart clothing factory.
And you know what else, Chase?
It's a factory for my beautiful daughter, Ivanka, who if she wasn't my daughter, we'd probably be dating.
It's a factory for her handbags, the new Ivanka Trump Uyghur limited Uyghur series made out of the skin of Uyghur dissidents.
Okay?
These things retail for $500, Chase.
And they're the nicest, smoothest bags that you've ever seen.
Believe me, they are.
They are.
Puts the lotion on its skin, bro.
Puts the lotion on its skin.
Man, I was watching the Donald Trump two-minute clip.
I think I posted it on my Twitter a couple of days ago of him just bashing Rosie.
It's the funniest shit I've ever seen in my entire life.
It's everything.
It's how I fell in love with him in 2006.
The crux of it was Rosie made fun of him on the view.
She flipped her hair.
I think you sent it to me, didn't you?
Did you send it to me?
Yeah, I posted it.
I sent it to you just to kind of give you some background and maybe a little psychology into why I am the way I am.
What would compel me to actually, as a grown man, dress up like Donald Trump and go out in public like that?
Psychologists and shrinks could probably make a lot of money putting me on their couch.
But yeah, Rosie made fun of him because one of his beauty pageant contestants was like acting up and partying.
She was a young girl.
So Trump had like a press conference to say, everybody deserves a second chance.
We're going to get her back in here.
We're not going to kick her out.
She could compete for the crown.
Okay.
She's a talented young lady.
So Rosie like swished her hair and made fun of him.
And it was actually really funny.
It was a good impression.
You know, she did the mouth and Trump obviously saw it.
So Trump summoned Entertainment Tonight's cameras to his office at Trump Tower and proceeded to go on one of the greatest two-minute takedown tracks like in the history of all time.
It's cut so perfectly too.
All the cutting, the lighting.
He's kind of a sophomore there.
He's like a young Auburn Fox.
He was about 60 years old.
He's like, Well, Rosie O'Donnell's disgusting.
I mean, you look at her, you take a look, she's a slob.
She talks like a truck driver.
Rosie got mad at me and attacked me because I had to congratulate her on the failure of her magazine.
Her magazine called Rosie, which was a disaster, and everybody was suing her as a result.
And, you know, Barbara Walters is probably paying a very big price for putting her on the view.
I mean, if I were Barbara, I'd fire Rosie.
I'd look right in that big, fat ugly face of hers and I'd say, Rosie, you're fired.
But, you know, look, you know, Chase, I'll probably sue Rosie.
I think it'd be fun.
I'd like to.
Would he ever end up doing it?
No, no, no.
I'd like to take some money out of those fat ass pockets.
And Rosie is someone who's very lucky to have her girlfriend.
And she better be careful.
I'll send over one of my friends to come pick up your girlfriend.
You know, he'll send anybody stay with Rosie if they could be with anybody else.
Why would you be with Rosie if you had the choice to be with somebody else?
And I'm just like, I'm looking at this, Chase, and I'm like, dude, Donald Trump's a fucking maniac.
He's a madman.
He's a billionaire reality TV clown developer.
And he's taking time out of his day to have entertainment tonight.
Come up to his office.
This is how pity, like, like the just pithy this guy is.
I fucking love it.
So I was, I was hooked.
I was hooked on him from then.
This was 06, like my freshman year of college.
So my brother and I were doing that impression non-stop during the holidays at family holiday parties in the car with our parents.
Well, Andy was much less controversial back then.
He was pretty much universally loved.
Oh, the rappers put wrote songs about him and his money.
He had cameos in all big movies.
Everybody, what a comeback story, too.
I mean, he lost his ass in the early 90s.
Oh, he was in the hole personally like a billion dollars.
And 70 banks in the area bailed him out, said Trump's better alive to us than dead.
So they consolidated the debt and they guaranteed his debt and they bailed his ass out.
It's called I'm Smart, Chase.
It's called being smart.
Okay.
Well, he's not wrong when he says that.
I mean, yeah, he got lucky, he got bailed out, but not everybody could just pull that off.
It's only because he developed his brand for himself that was even plausible.
The brand had the staying power and had universal recognition.
But oh, yeah, yeah, he was just a funny page six tabloid clown that everyone just got a kick out of.
And the other elites, long-established elites, just tolerate him because Terry Black's barbecue.
Terry Black's barbecue.
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But yeah, you know, the other elites, he was always at the party with the other elites, but he was always there pissing in the pool.
You know, he kind of was off script and he didn't behave nice.
He was never a drunk ass, that's for sure.
I never took a drink.
Look, my brother died of alcoholism.
Fred Jr., he was a really nice guy.
He wasn't a killer like I was, but he died of alcoholism and it was really sad, Chase.
But I never took a drink.
I never took a drink.
You know, I actually believe him when he says that.
Do you think he's just bullshit?
There's stories of him just sipping on a Michelobe all night.
Like if he was ever going to have something, he would just do that.
But yeah, Trump, Trump doesn't strike me as a boozer.
He's he was addicted to money.
Yeah, he's addicted to money, acquisition, pussy, probably Adderall, and Big Macs.
That's what Trump's addicted to.
And Winnie, we're going to win.
We're going to win.
Hell yeah.
Give me all the Addies.
We're going to win so much, Chase, that you're going to get tired of winning, but not really.
Okay.
But yeah, he's the sensation.
And it's amazing that every day for the rest of her miserable life, Hillary Clinton has to wake up knowing that he denied her the presidency.
So we can always take solace in that, no matter where you fall.
Well, you know, and really the only person that could have beat him is Joe Biden.
I mean, with that amount of energy and just zest and reveal, frankly, it's like, it's like, yeah, you know, of course it was Joe.
Listen here, Chase.
This is President Biden.
I'm from a place called Scran.
You ever heard of it?
It's a tough neighborhood.
It's in this section of Amtrak, Pennsylvania.
Okay?
Scran's a tough place.
That's where I grew up.
So when you think about kitchen table issues, bread and butter issues, your mom wondering if she's going to pay her medical bills or eat dinner that night.
That's what I want you to think of.
And then Pantine Provy.
I like all the young girls to wear Pantine Provy so I can smell it.
But I know it's horrifying watching those videos.
Chase, Chase, are you that VO5 or Pantene Provi you're wearing?
God damn it.
I could smell it.
I could smell it from here, Chase.
God damn it.
I'm so proud of my son, Hunter.
He's the smartest man I know.
He's been sober for 20, he's been sober 28 hours.
God love him.
God, he's never been more of an asshole.
Yeah, he's an art dealer now.
But yeah, the Biden.
The Biden thing, you know, Biden is just a regional warlord from Delaware and a gangster, and he's been in the game over half a century.
So they got him in there, man.
I feel like every town he's in, he says he's from that town.
Like, I know he was born in Scranton, but like, he's from Delaware.
I don't know.
Anytime he goes to a blue collar town, I'm from this town.
God damn it.
I was a coal miner here in Juneau, Alaska in the 40s during the gold rush.
All right.
Dude, he's so old.
He's not even a boomer.
He's from the silent generation.
He's so old, he can remember when Hitler died.
He's like Charlie Chaplin era.
Yeah, he sure is.
Jesus Christ.
He's almost 80.
He's the only guy was born.
He's almost 80.
Yeah, he's almost 80.
I met Biden a bunch of times.
I first met him in 06, and he was a hell of a lot sharper than the potato that he is now.
Yeah, I don't think that he used to be stupid.
I mean, I always hated him and disagreed with him, but I would never describe him as a dumbass.
No, no, no.
Biden was a fucking killer, man.
That guy was sharp as attack and a murderer, man.
I mean, his family, Ryan Dawson has the goods and all the Bidens.
You've got the Biden crime family documentary, you know, for example, talks about Biden's brother being in getting contracts to rebuild Iraq after we destroyed him based on a war of lies that Biden did nothing to stop or even put debate forth in the Senate when he was chairman of the board, I think, didn't he?
Corey totally voted for it.
He helped Bush make it a reality.
And then his brother gets a nice millions of dollars to rebuild and be part of the grift.
So yeah, Biden's just another gangster, man, and they're trying to paint him as a humble old man who's just going to build back better, bring the country back from the brink of fascism.
Well, think about it, man.
Like, what do senators and reps, what do they make?
Like 175, the House of Reps and maybe 200 to be a senator or something.
Yeah, if you're going to do that job, which is probably one of the shittiest jobs ever, like what you have to go through to consistently get re-elected, who you have to deal with, what you have to put your family through.
I mean, there are a lot of other jobs you can make that kind of money for that are much less difficult and stressful.
So in order to make it worth it, I think these people just do all this shitty stuff, like, you know, use insider information to make stock bets.
They do these, you know, behind closed doors, you know, cigar room deals where it's like, all right, you know, we'll go to Iraq, but then, you know, my brother-in-law gets a contract to rebuild all the schools or whatever.
And that's like, that's the only reason it's worth it is because like no one would ever do that job just for 175 grand and a good conscience.
Well, no, absolutely.
I mean, the fact of actually the matter of even doing any work, none of them do any work, man.
The most of them are just high planes grifters who get down there at the behest of corporations.
They're basically whores and mouthpieces for corporate interests or Wall Street insurance companies, big farm, whatever.
Take your pick, man, of the big dogs in town.
And politicians, more times than not, are just their little street walking prostitutes.
And Jesse Ventoro always had a great thing.
They should wear NASCAR jackets, Chase.
They should have a NASCAR jacket that says Pfizer right here.
Aliburton right here.
Exxon right here.
That's so true.
Wall Street right here.
Beer Stearns, Goldman Sachs, Goldman ball sacks.
Golden ball sacks on Lindsey Graham's nose, Arab goggles.
You know, Lindsey Graham, Chase.
I love me going on them aircraft carriers out in the Gulf because them boys need suntan lotion.
In last Senate budget, I appropriated $100 million in Suntan lotion so I could personally go on that aircraft carry and rub it on their buttocks.
I love that.
I love them boys out there in the desert.
It's going to take boots on the ground in Syria, Chase.
I wish there was another way, but there isn't.
Lindsey Graham, it's like his whole fucking neck is just moving while he's talking.
Oh, he's like a Charlie McCarthy doll.
Yeah, I used to be a rooster.
Gobble, gobble, gobble.
I'm going to get to the White House and my sister going to serve as first lady.
John McCain going to be my wife.
He's going to be my first husband.
I'm going to dig up his body and put it up there.
He's going to be in the Oval Office with me.
He's going to do a good job.
Yeah, well, at McCain's funeral, instead of giving the folded flag to Cindy McCain, they gave it to Lindsey Graham.
I didn't know that.
Is that true?
No, I just made that up.
It's believable.
It's just the kind of thing.
It's just the kind of thing that would happen, man.
Look, I was the power bottom for Senator McCain.
He was a decent man for so many years.
We were just appropriating so much money to kill people and armed terrorists over there.
I never liked what Trump said about McCain, you know, the famous like, hey, you know, I don't like, I like people who don't get caught.
I thought that was a line.
I like people who weren't captured.
Excuse me.
Yeah.
Yeah, but at the same time, like, I don't think John McCain was exactly a war hero.
I mean, the dude gave away intel under duress.
Well, I mean, war hero, man.
That's just a matter of perspective.
It's a matter of how you view the war machine.
It's a matter of how you view and ask the question, why was he flying a fighter jet over in Vietnam in that country, dropping bombs on fucking poor people in rice patties?
So, you know, the other side of that coin, the person who shot his fucking jet down was a hero, you know?
Right.
And I'm not saying one way or the other.
I mean, I don't like war being glorified.
I don't like death on that scale being glorified.
So, you know, maybe we disagree.
And I got a kick out of it when fucking Trump did all that with Frank Luntz.
Excuse me, he's not a war hero.
Okay.
I like people who weren't captured.
And here's Trump frigging had daddy get a doctor to write a note for him saying he had bone spurs so he didn't have to go serve in Vietnam.
And he still won.
When that happened, people were like, Trump's done.
He just dragged a war hero through the mud.
It's over.
And then like his poll numbers kept going up.
It was fucking incredible.
Well, that was the thing about Trump that was so amazing is he never branded himself as this like perfect person.
So whenever trash came out against him, it was like, yeah, so like everybody, like when the Stormy Daniels ganglicor came out, everyone's like, of course he did.
Like, you know, he didn't brand himself like Romney.
If Romney would have had a Stormy Daniels story, that would have been the end of Romney, you know, because he's this perfect Mormon dude.
But everybody knows that Trump is just like, you know, a porn star bang and scrap dodging billionaire.
He's the porn star, Big Mac president, man, and the people ate it up.
And seemingly with each scandal, dude, that would have broke any other campaign, he just got stronger and more powerful and sucked more.
He talked twice.
Amazing.
Dude, he's a fucking legend.
We're not worthy, man.
We are not worthy.
Well, for him, you're a libertarian, though, right?
So you probably threw in like a Johnson or a Jorgensen, huh?
So 2012.
I run it in 2012.
No, I know.
I'm building it up.
Excuse me, Chase.
If you would stop being fake news and listen for a guy, you're not very good at your job, are you?
No.
2012, I worked for Gary Johnson during his Republican primary run here in New Hampshire.
And yeah, Big J, Big J, Puff Daddy Johnson.
And he dropped out, you know, it was just abysmal.
It was horrible.
They didn't put him in the debates.
They just fucked him over.
Where is Aleppo?
What is Aleppo?
And then when he dropped out, all of us Gary Johnson guys endorsed Ron Paul.
And then I worked on Ron Paul's campaign here in New Hampshire.
We came in second behind Mitt Romney in 2012.
I love Ron Paul.
24% of the vote.
Yeah, Ron's the greatest.
And the Fed, man.
And the Fed.
Great book.
Great book.
Yep.
Good book.
So in 16, I voted for Trump in the primary during the primary.
So I was a Rand Paul guy during the 2016 primary.
And he sucked.
He sucked.
I've never made fun of your appearance.
Believe me, there's plenty of material.
You know, look at your hair.
It's pretty ugly there, Rand.
There's a lot I could say about it, but I won't.
But boy, you're having a tough time.
And I gave you a lot of money.
Yeah, that was, he really cut Rand down to size.
No.
Rand handled it like a champ, though.
He just laughed.
He was like, yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
No, so yeah, Rand Paul was my guy.
My brother and I endorsed him.
We wrote a letter to the editor.
I did some phone banking for him.
We had a couple of events here we went to, but he flamed out.
So that leaves us like, well, I was going to vote for John Kasich or Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz.
I wanted to keep the Trump thing going because in my mind, I'm like, okay, he could last for a while in this primary.
Ultimately, he's not going to be the nominee.
And Hillary Clinton's going to be the next president.
So I figured my vote here in New Hampshire, I mean, he was already, he was a juggernaut here in New Hampshire during the 16 primary.
He just absolutely owned the state.
He got over 100,000 votes in the primary.
And I'm like, yeah, I have my Trump impression that I do of him.
And I'm getting a lot of gigs and I'm staying busy.
So let's just keep riding this till the wheels fall off.
So just as kind of a, I was pretty nihilistic at that point.
I was disillusioned with the whole thing.
So it was just kind of like, yep, let's vote for Trump.
And then he won.
And then he won the nomination.
And I was like, holy shit.
This is off the rails.
But my general election vote for 16 did go to Gary Johnson.
What about 20?
I voted for him in 16.
2020.
So obviously, you know, I was a big Tulsi guy.
Yeah, she's so hot.
I can't talk about Tulsi without just immediately remarking.
And I know that's like inappropriate and unprofessional, but I don't give a fuck.
That's so cliche.
So cliche, Chase.
How dare you?
How dare you?
I don't care how much I disagree with her.
She's still foxy as hell.
Well, I made a funny joke.
I was at a candidate thing at a library here in New Hampshire.
And each Democratic primary campaign had a representative that would speak for five minutes, make the pitch for their candidate, and then answer any questions.
So when I went up there, you know, I had all my Tulsi gear and was there to persuade people to support her or just talk about why I was supporting her.
And I started out with a joke.
I'm like, well, you know, we're the campaign that we're not as good looking as John Delaney, but, you know, I think we're a close second.
That's why we have giant billboards of our candidate here in New Hampshire.
And I got some left.
Or no, maybe I said we're not as good looking as Liz Warren.
I think that's what I said.
Yeah, Pocahontas.
Yeah, which we call her Grandma Oatmeal.
Jason Burmes.
Yeah, Jason Burmes came up with that nickname, Grandma Oatmeal, which is a great nickname for.
But I said, yeah, we don't have the best looking candidate like Warren, but I think we're a close second.
That's why we have our giant billboards.
Just some bullshit to cut the tension.
And like, you guys should not take this all so seriously, you know.
But no, yeah, people, well, I know politics is image and looks are important, but it's really at the core of who Tulsi is and what she represents, which is why I supported her and why I urged people to donate to her campaign and vote for her and support her because she was talking about real serious shit, man, that no one else in the race would even touch.
And she could get up in front of a national debate stage with 60 million people watching in prime time.
She smoke everybody and get covered for it.
This is a great with Jocko on Joe Rogan's podcast.
Oh, she's been on Jocko's podcast too.
And yeah, her appearance with him on Rogan was awesome.
But no, Tulsi's, she's a badass man.
She's sharp, man.
She knows her stuff.
She has foreign policy cred.
You know, obviously serving in the military, she understands it inside and out, serving in Iraq as a combat veteran.
So she just, there's so many things about her that made her really legit and someone who I truly looked at who could walk into the Oval Office and with integrity, with knowledge, and with the credibility, be in charge, be the commander in chief.
So that's the thing for me in Tulsi.
The reason I liked her is because even though I don't agree with, she is a Democrat, like a gen, like a Democrat in the traditional sense, she's a genuine Democrat, not like a leftist, not a progressive, not a communist.
Kind of like this.
Kind of like this guy, JFK.
Exactly, whom I named my daughter after, Kennedy.
Really?
Oh, that's awesome, man.
Nice.
And that's what I liked about her.
But the thing is, I don't have to agree with everything the Canada support says, but I do have to believe that they actually believe it.
Right.
So when Joe Biden speaks, it's like, I know it's special interest through him, right?
Hillary Clinton, same thing.
Countless politicians, same thing.
But, you know, I think that's one of the reasons that people like Bernie, though I think Bernie is bought and paid for.
People supported him because they genuinely believed that he wasn't.
And he came off, he was basically the socialist version of Ron Paul.
All the same people that vote for Ron Paul vote for Bernie, even though they're opposites.
Where else, hey, look, this is this guy that, you know, he actually means what he says, you know, and with Tulsi, I respected her for that.
No, absolutely.
Yeah.
She does believe what she says and she walks the walk with it.
And we had a really diverse selection of people and voters show up to our town hall.
She did over 200 events here in New Hampshire over the course of a year.
And I'd introduced her at quite a few of them.
And you would have military veterans, you would have libertarians, real progressives, anti-war people, moderate people, and then just people who liked how poised she was and how dignified she was and her presence.
So I think she's got a bright future.
I don't think we've heard the last from her.
Brandy Love 2024.
Randy Love 2024.
Oh, God.
Yeah, dude.
So you go from, I'm honored.
You go from having Anthony Schaefer on of the DIA to Brandy Love to Eric Jackman.
I mean, I'm in good company here, I think.
Man, I hang out with whoever I think would be fun to hang out with.
Obviously, I hustle to try to get people with a big following on the show because that's how I grow.
But that's not like, that's not a rule to have 100,000 people, you know?
And so basically, if I think I can have a cool conversation with somebody, I'll have them on.
Like, I've had one of my best friends on.
I think he's got 200 Twitter followers, Andrew Stern.
And he's like one of the funniest, smartest guys I've ever met.
And it's, you know, if you're not, if you're not having good conversations, then what the fuck is the point?
Like, the whole reason I started this podcast is so I can hang out with interesting people.
You know, it got lonely this year.
It was a rough 18 months.
I agree with you 100% on that.
I've had close friends on my podcast who some of them might not even have social media.
But so to your point, let's have a cool conversation and talk about interesting things.
One of my favorite guests is my friend Tony, a guy named Tony Ruschioni.
He owns a homestead farm with his wife in Massachusetts and has his own homestead shop.
I actually went there yesterday and bought some stuff I got to visit for the first time.
But he's a dude I've known since we were kids, probably 14 or 15.
We grew up playing youth hockey together.
And, you know, we were teammates.
We were buddies.
And then we were in college together for a little bit.
And then we kind of had a falling out over religion.
We got into a stupid Facebook argument.
Because he's hyper-religious or because you are?
He was hyper-religious and part of a really controlling, closed-off, cult-y type church.
And I didn't know that about him until I saw it on Facebook.
And I was like, holy shit, man, what happened to him?
And at this point, I was trying to be an edgy, heels-dug-in edgelord atheist, like in the mold of Sam Harris, Richard Dodd.
All you libertarians, atheists.
Well, I mean, I've been an atheist as long as I can remember.
But so this is like, I, you know, would just, I've matured a lot.
I've done, I've done a 180 on a lot of it.
I'm still an atheist.
I don't believe in God, but I'm very, very much more accommodating now for religious people and respectful.
And I don't argue about religion with people anymore.
We're all free to believe what we want to believe or what we don't want to believe.
Can I ask you about atheism or do you not want to talk about it?
Oh, dude, I'm totally open to talk about it.
So I am, I consider myself a Christian, but I think probably 99% of Christians would not consider me a Christian.
Okay.
So I'm like a Jordan Peterson Christian.
So I don't believe in like any of the supernatural stuff, but I still like the cultural aspects of the faith.
Yeah, I study the Bible and I think the stories have almost divinely inspired principles and value.
Yeah.
From like a Jordan Peterson intellectual sense.
And I believe in God in like a deist sense, but I'm not like stuck on Yahweh.
You know what I mean?
I'm not stuck on a specific, I just believe in like higher power, you know, and then that's like, that's where I stop.
So I would never consider myself an atheist, but I'm also not like somebody who like claims to believe that they know everything there is to know about God or the nature of God.
You know, like I tell people that I believe in God, but all I know about God is that he exists or all I believe about God is that he exists or it exists.
And that's like where it ends.
And so I wonder if like atheists, like sometimes sometimes I feel like atheists say that they don't believe in God and what they really mean is that they just don't believe in Yahweh.
Yeah, well, I don't believe.
So I have no proof.
I'm not saying, I can't say one way or the other 100% there is or isn't.
But my leaning is towards that, that there is no thing up in the sky.
There's no sky daddy watching us 24-7 that should be dictating morality and telling us how we ought to live and what our existence should be predicated upon.
And, you know, I view it through the lens of seeing how incredibly destructive organized religion has been for humanity and has been for the globe when looking at it through tribal lenses and all the conflicts that have sprung up over it, the continuing conflict with Israel and Palestine.
I come from a background of a Boston Irish Catholic family.
So both my parents had to go to, my dad was in Catholic school for a bit.
You know, he got beat up by nuns.
That's not my mom.
None your business.
You know, my mom lived in a Catholic orphanage for a year.
So, you know, you can imagine, man, what that was like for them as young kids.
And Boston was the epicenter of really when the story broke with the Catholic Church of all the abuse, the spotlight type stuff.
So I very much came up in that tradition being very weary of organized religion and how abusive it was to children and how we control people's lives.
And I'm not into shame.
I'm not into fear and guilt and dogma.
So I always kind of had that.
And, you know, my dad kept us away from religion.
He said as children, you know, he didn't want us to go to church, didn't force us.
And he said, when you guys are of a certain age, you can then decide if you want religion, if you want faith, if you want to believe Even God, you should decide for yourself.
I'm not going to put a label on you and call you some denomination or make you adhere to some kind of dogma.
So I'll always appreciate him for that.
But I'm far, man, from in my 20s, you know, I would want to argue with people and be nasty.
And I just don't see the point in arguing about it with people anymore.
I think you can be a great person who is religious and you could be a great person who's not religious.
And I know people.
I agree.
I know people in both camps, man.
I have some very close friends who are hardcore evangelical Christians.
And while we have a lot of disagreements, man, overall, I really like them and respect them as people, and they show me that same respect.
I'm really worried, though, about what some of the radical evangelicals, the harm that they might be doing to sort of the Republican Party or just right-wing ism in general, because, you know, like what we saw with Brandy Love last week.
And I'm not just like making an effort to bring Brandy Love up over and over again.
But, you know, when you have people who agree with things like freedom, low taxes, Second Amendment, who want to vote for your candidate, and then you kick them out of a conference because, you know, they live a life that you don't approve of morally.
It's like, all right, you know, come on.
Like, are we doing more harm than good when we do stuff like this?
And I understand if, you know, people don't want a porn star to be like a role model for their kid, but I'm telling you right now, nobody becomes a porn star because they went to a fucking TP USA conference and a porn star was a VIP guest.
Like, oh, like, I think I'll try that.
Like, that's not how that works, you know?
So I don't know.
And like, I got a ton of hate comments for having her on the show.
And people are like, you know, if my 15-year-old son was there, you know, and I didn't want him exposed to that.
And I'm like, trust me, your 15-year-old son is watching porn.
Like, you fucking kidding me.
How old are you, Chase?
I'm 30.
Okay, so I'm 35 in October.
It was hard for us to score porn when we were kids, man.
Yeah, it was.
And we had to download it forever.
It was still.
I'm talking about magazines, bro.
Like, I'm OG old school.
Like in school, we would, yeah, we would steal our dad's porn bags and then trade him with a business.
What's your birthday?
I'm October 2.
Oh, October 10th, 1986.
Scorpio?
But I don't know about any of that.
I don't know about any of that stuff.
I don't believe it, but I know.
Yeah.
Well, they got these phones now, and you can friggin access donkey shows in Bulgaria if you want, if you're into that sort of thing.
But it's stupid, man.
Something that purports to extol the virtues of freedom and freedom of association and free to live your authentic life and be who you want to be to then throw her out of an event like that is just very hypocritical and I think immature and silly at the end.
They had James Lindsay as a speaker and James Lindsay literally wrote a book about atheism.
I mean, he's an atheist.
He wrote a book about atheism called Everything You Know About God Is Wrong.
And I like James Lindsay.
I follow James Lindsay.
He's fucking great.
I think he was a good speaker.
But it's like, why are you kicking Brandy Love out for being immoral and then you're having an atheist speak?
Like, would you rather have your kid watch porn than become an atheist if you're a dogmatic evangelical?
I'm pretty sure not believing in God is way a way quicker path to hell in your mind than you know watching the little porn.
Hey, if you believe in God, God created boobs and we should enjoy big boobs like Brandy loves boobs.
That's how I feel.
I apply that argument to drugs and marijuana.
If you believe in God, he created drugs and marijuana.
So smoke up and enjoy it, right?
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know.
I don't know.
You know, I have mixed feelings about the whole drug thing.
I don't smoke pot because every time I do, I get really depressed.
I don't know what your experience is with that, but I'm like one of those guys that gets, I have like an existential crisis.
Maybe I'm doing too much.
But when I was a kid, I used to be able to do it and have a great time.
And then I like, once I reach a certain age, I started having anxiety issues when I do it.
Yep.
Yeah.
My 20s, I enjoyed marijuana much more.
But now that the stigma is melting away from it and it's pretty much widely available and legal and you can get it in all forms, I don't enjoy it anymore.
And I very rarely will do it.
If I'm around friends who have it and I've had a few pops and they just hand me a joint or a ball, I'll take a hit out of it.
But other than that, man, I'm in my 20s, I did it much more.
You ever done shrooms?
Oh, yeah.
I enjoy mushrooms.
I've done them probably, I don't know, half a dozen times in my life, and they're all really good experiences and have helped me help me deal with trauma.
Have you done them?
Twice.
Yeah, I did straight psilocybin extract.
I got it on the dark web.
And it was an amazing experience.
I don't feel the need to ever do it again, but I just wanted to understand what it was like.
At the time, I was really interested in the John Hopkins study.
So it was like an intellectual exercise.
It wasn't something I did with friends.
Like I hired a therapist to come over to my house and sit down.
I didn't do anything crazy.
And I did this thing in the middle of the day.
Very responsible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you did a lot of research and it was cool.
Yes, I did too, man.
Set and setting.
I did a lot of homework before I took them and researched them and understand the power of them.
And it's not a party drug, man.
You're not taking this to fucking party and go on spring break, man.
It's very certain and it would be fun, but it's not something to mess with.
Sure.
Well, I guess to each their own, whatever they want to use it for, you can do as you please.
But I'm very much with you on that, that I was looking for something introspective here.
I was looking for something deep.
I was looking to work on myself.
And the trauma I speak of is I lost my father to brain cancer.
He died.
It was a five-month process.
Thanks.
It was a five-month.
I turned 30.
Yeah, I was 30 when he died.
It's the same.
It's the same brain cancer that Joe Biden's son died from, Ted Kennedy and John McCain.
It's called glioblastoma.
And yeah, he was diagnosed with it and they gave him five months and he lived five months.
So I had done much.
How did you notice it?
His vision was starting to get blurry and he was kind of slurring a little bit.
We thought maybe at first he'd had a stroke.
So we took him.
I was on that side of his brain.
Well, yeah, just so where it was on his brain, it was kind of causing half of his body to shut down basically and like lose mobility.
And he was kind of tripping and his balance was thrown off.
So we're like, yeah, you got to go to the hospital, get this checked out.
And they did, and they saw something on his brain.
And then we had to bring him to a Dartmouth Hitchcock here in New Hampshire, which is a bigger, more evolved facility.
And they ran all the tests and they said, yeah, there's, there's, it's not good.
So it was, you know, it's the most traumatic thing I've ever dealt with in my life.
And it's going to be a lot of people.
At least you had your brother.
Oh, my God.
If I didn't have my brother and my family, my dad has seven siblings who are all still alive.
He was one of eight.
So they were all there for it, man.
My sister, everyone pulled through in a big way, my friends.
But so I took some time after he passed away.
I knew that I wanted to do mushrooms again to kind of help me process his death and just get to a point where you have to live with it every day and accept that he's gone and go about your life and not stop growing as a human being after this life-changing event.
So I did him again, you know, with a couple of close people, and it was a great experience, man.
I released a lot of the sadness and the despair over it.
And, you know, I lived on the base of a beautiful mountain here in New Hampshire, world-famous mountain called Mount Menadnock.
And it was just a glorious summer day.
And the three of us sat out in the field all day, ate a bunch of mushrooms, listened to tunes, and just laughed.
And there were tears.
And it was a beautiful experience.
So I personally, you know, recommend it if you're going to be responsible about it.
Talk to your doctor.
It's not FDA approved.
Do homework and research into it before you do it.
And having a guide, Chase, I think that's a great idea.
Yeah, don't do it alone, especially the first time.
Bringing in someone who's an expert who can help you on your journey is a fantastic idea in a safe environment where there's not other people around.
I can't do it with a bunch of people around.
I only can do it with like.
Especially strangers.
You'll freak out.
God, no.
I need to be in control of who's coming and who's going.
But yeah, for me personally, it was worth it.
And I'll probably do them again at some point.
But they definitely helped, man.
And the side effects, I think the benefits outweigh any kind of side effects.
Yeah, it's not something to be done like every weekend, but every several years or something or once happens.
You're so tired, man, and just sucked of all your energy and everything the next day.
I mean, one time I did him, the side effect was my stomach hurt from laughing, just laughing for seven hours, laughing to the point of tears at how absurd our whole deal was and how small we are and the whole scope of it.
So yeah, you go through all the range of emotions.
But I was sitting in my apartment and I was looking at the wall.
And of course, looking at like a blank wall can be actually pretty entertaining when you're on shrooms because you're hallucinating and seeing patterns and shit.
And I saw this like, it was almost like watercolor or ink, you know, just like this drawing being drawn on my wall.
It took maybe, I don't know, what felt like five minutes for it to be drawn.
I'm just watching it being drawn.
And at the end, I'm like, what the fuck is that?
And the next day, when I'm not on shrooms, I started like Googling, trying to figure out if it was like something that existed, the drawing I saw.
And it was a Zoroastrian symbol for spirit guide, which I had never seen.
Oh, wow.
Interesting.
So I don't know, like, if I had seen it before and it was in my subconscious, it was subconsciously buried.
Right.
Or if, or if it was my spirit guide, just like fucking with me.
You know, I'm not superstitious.
So I'm like really reluctant to say, like, you know, I had this spiritual experience where I touched the other side.
But at the same time, you know, it's like, you know, it was a really cool experience to have that happen.
It definitely threw me for a loop.
I think next time I'll do them, I'll try to have an easel board or something and I'll paint Brandy Loves Boobs or something.
I think that would be just come out.
Man, no matter how hard you try, I don't think you could get that perfect.
She's talented.
She's great, man.
She's such a sweet lady, too.
I feel really bad for what happened to her.
And, you know, people are trying to say that she was exploiting that conference just for personal gain.
It's like, she's worth like $10 million.
She's ranked 10 on porn HUD.
Like, she wasn't there to get a couple of evangelical teenagers to be into her porn.
She was there because she's a fucking Republican and she wanted to hear the speakers.
And it's just a shame.
Yeah.
And she's an American citizen who should be free to do as she pleases.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, no, that's cool, man.
And the stigma is evaporating around psychedelics and shrooms as well because they're doing studies with veterans who have PTS from war.
Yes.
And smokers, even.
Yes, quitting smoking, quitting booze, all that kind of stuff.
So I'm very encouraged by some decrim measures that have happened.
I believe it was out in Colorado where they decriminalized mushrooms in Denver, if I'm wrong.
I think you're right.
Might have been statewide.
Could it be statewide?
Yeah, I'd have to look more into that.
But I think that's a step in the right direction.
And I believe, just like any substance you decide to put in your body, research it, understand it, learn about it, and just be responsible with it.
Right.
Right.
Exactly.
Well, where can people find you, man?
Yeah.
So my podcast is on Spotify, Podbean, iTunes, and Apple.
It's just Jackman Radio, two words.
Jackman, like Hugh Jackman, Wolverine, and then Radio.
And then I'm on Twitter at Jackman Radio.
I've got two accounts on Instagram.
One's my personal account, Senator Jackman.
Come say hi to me.
I'm on there all day.
And then Jackman Radio is an account on there.
And then we have a YouTube channel that is up and running and fine.
And we're working towards getting that monetized.
We have the following subscribers.
We have that.
And we have the hours streamed.
So we're just waiting for them to approve it.
Kind of takes.
Oh, congratulations.
That'll take a few days.
It could take a while.
Yeah.
So, you know, we're working on building that up.
We've been working on it.
And yeah, I'm on there.
And I have a Patreon account.
If people like what we do and want to support us, we just ask people for five bucks a month.
And, you know, the money for that is used to put on that special that we did, hiring a film crew, hiring a sound crew.
And we have a studio up here.
Our producer built a recording studio in his basement at his house.
Really, really beautiful sound studio.
And we want to fly guests out, you know, if possible, start doing that.
So any support we could get from people, we appreciate it.
