Brandi Love | Turning Point USA, Porn, & The Future For Conservatives | OAP #38
Chase Geiser is joined by Brandi Love.
Brandi Love started her own website, BrandiLove.com, in June 2004. In 2008, Love started performing for Los Angeles production companies. Throughout her career as an adult film performer, she became known for her appearances in MILF and "Hot Wife" productions.
In 2006, she collaborated with Gail Harris of Falcon Foto to form Naked Rhino Media, a multimedia company creating porn sites that feature exclusive niche-specific content. Then, in 2011, she began performing for adult studios. In 2013, it was announced that Kelly Madison Media was developing a new website for Love and would take part in the production of new content.
Since 2011, Love has performed in productions for companies such as Brazzers, Girlfriends Films, Hustler Video, Tom Byron Pictures,Naughty America and Wicked Pictures. Love appeared on the Penn & Teller: Bullshit! episode on "The War on Porn". She released her book, Getting Wild Sex from Your Conservative Woman, in 2008.
Love is a self-described conservative and Republican who supported Donald Trump and "voted for Bill Clinton back in the day". She has written articles for The Federalist, a conservative online magazine.
In July 2021, Love was banned from a Florida conference by the conservative student organization Turning Point USA, to which she had purchased an adult VIP ticket. Conservatives and others denounced her presence at a conference that minors would also attend.
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Chase's Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/realchasegeiser
Brandi's Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Brandi_Love
Brandi's Website: http://brandilove.com/
I'm realizing now based on everything that's coming out, kind of naive.
And you wouldn't think for somebody who's in the adult industry that I would be so, but I was raised in a conservative home.
I've always carried constitutional policy and believing in America first and loving the country that I was born in always, even though it was not always popular or a simple stance to take.
So I had a friend who mentioned that TPUSA was coming to Tampa.
It's like an hour and a half drive, no big deal.
And I looked it up and I thought, oh my God, Charlie Kirk.
Yeah, I followed him on Instagram before I got disabled.
Yeah, unfortunately, apparently, a picture with me and my dog was against community standards.
So, you know, censorship is awesome.
It's great.
So, but prior to that, what I knew about Charlie Kirk was, can I say what I want to say or do I have to be exactly what you want to say?
He's kind of a badass.
He's extremely quick.
He's very sharp.
He can answer any question.
He's not afraid.
Every video I watched was on a college campus confronting progressive liberals and really having an impressive debate, one that I'm not geared to do, but I'm impressed when I watch it.
So I certainly knew who he was.
We've got Dan Boncino.
We've got Kat Timf.
We've got all these really, DeSantis was going to be there.
How could I not want to purchase a ticket and be a part of this awesome opportunity?
So I bought a ticket as a private citizen.
It's called an adult VIP ticket to a conference that is known based on their own website information as a college, university, professor.
I saw all the words.
I have college kids.
So yeah, it's super important to me that this movement is pushed forward.
So bought the tickets, got the hotel, made the drive, excited as hell to be there around other patriots.
Yeah, my lanyard said Brandy Love.
It's kind of a privacy thing.
It's kind of like a normal thing.
I have other friends that were there with their names in the media.
I posted it because I wanted people to be able to see.
I'm not covering anything.
My stories never changed.
Their story continues to change, but my story is the exact same.
And their reason stated something about their policy not allowing adult entertainment or influencers and a few other people so much for inclusion or being inclusive.
Here's the thing that was weird to me.
Chase, I bought my ticket two months prior to the event under my name, Brandy Love, and nobody vetted me within that time.
Well, you think, especially since you bought a VIP ticket, that they would have definitely looked into you because they would want to make sure that all the VIPs have a good experience, right?
One of the things that I've traditionally liked about Charlie is that I think that the Republicans do a really bad job of branding.
And TPUSA is like really reaching young people.
And it's, you know, it's just kind of rebranding the party for the future in a way that traditionally I thought was, you know, positive.
And I guess, you know, I looked on the, I looked on the TPUSA website and I was like, okay, it's like, what does their mission statement say?
And like nothing in their mission statement has anything about like traditional Christian values or, you know, ideal like evangelism or things typically associated with being anti-adult, you know, industry.
And I guess my question for you is, do you think Charlie was specifically behind it?
Or do you think it was just something that parents were complaining?
So do you think that this is what you saw at TPUSA is like a reflection of the Republican Party as a whole, or do you think this is like a fluke thing, which is kind of this organization?
Please, this is an education I've gotten in the last five days.
These are things that I maybe naively, but I did not know.
I just, I didn't know.
So we've got, as a Republican or conservative, I've always grown up thinking, wow, there's these crazy factions on the left, right?
They're pretty extreme.
And they've become more extreme.
We've got Antifa.
We've got BLM.
That's not all Democrats.
Not all Democrats are progressive, right?
But then I thought there was a right.
That's me.
I kind of, I like conservative policy.
I love constitutional policy.
I believe in the police protecting us.
I believe in law and order, Second Amendment, you know, the basics, low taxes.
Never in my life would I have thought that my own party would turn on me for my legal profession, for for owning and enjoying the liberties and freedoms promised to me by the Constitution of the United States.
Why would a conservative assume that I'd be kicked out by this conference that preaches those very things?
I'm still in a little bit of shock, to be honest with you.
Well, and I listened, I'm not sure if you ever listened to the portal podcast that Eric Weinstein did with Riley Reid, where they talked, they spoke a little bit about, you know, what it's like to be in the adult industry and stuff.
It's a great episode.
Have you ever seen, have you ever listened to that?
And it was really funny to hear Eric in that conversation because he's just sort of like a stereotypically brilliant mathematician, physicist type, you know, that here he is talking to like, you know, one of the hottest women on the internet.
So it was like, it was just a really funny dynamic and I really enjoyed it.
But he has so many great questions.
And one of the things that came up in that interview was, you know, how difficult it is for a lot of adult entertainers to like get things as simple as like a bank account, right?
Like, do you have a hard time with like, are you allowed on PayPal?
And I still feel, I don't, I still don't know what I did nor did they ever tell me.
That's, that's, I've given up on all that.
Venmo kicked me off.
PayPal kicked me off.
And it for just being me, I didn't even really use those.
That's a crazy story.
But yeah, something of the past several days has come to my, the forefront of my mind is, I find it really intriguing and problematic that in this country and as humans, we're all born with these unique skill sets, right?
But my point is I know my skill sets and people might laugh at my skill set, but let me tell you something.
It took years to be comfortable on a camera.
It took years naked doing what I do for a living.
And to own it and be like, this is awesome.
Like, I'm pretty good at this.
I keep getting better.
And when I get my emails from couples that go, we watch your porn and our sex life has gotten better and our marriage is better.
I mean, years of these.
So the acts aren't so bad, but what I don't get is, why can't we celebrate you with your skill set?
A carpenter for his awesome skill set.
A musician for their ability to play the piano or sing a song.
Why can't sex workers be celebrated for their skill set and actually utilize when you have an issue and go, you know what, Brandy might know how to give really great head.
I'm going to get my husband tonight and hit her up.
And I answer her and they have a great night.
That's my skill set.
Why does it have to be so poo-pooed and so negated to those people are shit.
So the company that we hired to build our website for the wine company, no coincidence, in my opinion.
I don't believe in them.
I call them God of Winces.
It was supposed to happen.
They worked in the adult industry as affiliate managers, which means they pushed traffic.
They understood the backside, the business side of moving traffic.
And one day, I don't know what it was about us, but they looked at us and went, you guys ever considered like running a business in the adult industry?
And we both went, wait, what?
That's a business?
Like, that's a thing.
I thought they were porn fairies.
Like, they're these special people that have these amazing sexy skills, right?
We did a PL, we did a performa.
We looked at each other and went, oh my God, we need to do this.
This looks so fun.
And when it came time to decide who to invest our money into, I mean, who can you trust more than yourself?
I woke up one morning.
I said, babe, I want to do it.
I want to be the face, the first sight, whatever you call it.
That's how silly I was.
I'm like, whatever it is, I want to do it.
He's like, uh, you know, everyone's going to know.
And I'm like, oh, there's thousands of these women.
And, but, you know, one of the things he did early in his career was he wrote a book, which I have not read on, you know, the porn industry and the effects of porn on the mind and things like that.
Are you familiar with like any of those arguments or points sort of against just pornography in general?
I mean, little boys are born holding on to their ding ding.
There's a reason.
That's our sexuality.
It's a gift.
And I don't know that I'll ever understand why sex work and the industry is attacked so brutally when it's pretty much the most natural thing known to man.
And I can't remember what year it was that he wrote it.
And I'm sure it's very good, but I'll find it.
And I don't know what his position is on TPS TPUSA kicking you out or not.
I'm sure that he mentioned it on a show.
I haven't listened to that episode, but it just seems to me that conservatism is supposed to be the party of liberty.
And I think the dogmatism that's been associated with the party from 20, 30 years ago with the staunch sort of anti-gay marriage positions that the party had for a long time, I think that dogmatism is really a big part of the reason that the Republican Party is having problems today, especially in terms of getting young people to be comfortable with the party.
And I was just kind of, I was disappointed, but I was more surprised to see that an organization so heavily associated with appealing specifically to the college age demographic.
I mean, it's kicking the snot out of like every college Republicans group.
They are just like taking over these campuses.
And I could not believe that they would make the branding decision that they made to not welcome you.
Well, you know, the thing that's unfortunate is, let's be honest, maybe they're pissed that I have a bigger reach to college students.
Just saying.
And where they messed up is instead of working together and just going, look, a patriotic woman who believes in the conservative movement, we can reach all these people, right?
We can reach more than we already have.
Not me.
It's not about me.
I wasn't there as a speaker.
I wasn't there to promote them, but I was.
I actually posted a picture of me getting my registration, gigging out and fanning out about being there because I was so excited.
And they actually used that against me, saying that I'm promoting them on my porn social media.
Well, first of all, if you could see any of the adult content on my profile, it's because you followed me.
I have my settings to sensitive content, which means you not only have to seek me out, you have to follow me.
And then you have to go into your profile and click the little button that says you're willing to see sensitive content.
So whoever discovered who I was claiming that I have an explicit Twitter did those three things to discover that there was any adult content whatsoever, which, again, I find extremely intriguing.
So it sounds to me like what happened was there were just some influential people within the organization that were that were raising a fuss and somebody decided that they had to ask you to leave rather than suffer the pain of pissing off some influencer within the organization.
But would you be willing to just bow out, whatever, we'll take care of things.
It's just too problematic.
You know what?
I'm a reasonable human being.
I could have considered all of these things if they had talked to me and I could have gone, oh, okay, look, I don't want to be a problem.
They didn't do that.
They chose not to do that.
They never reached out to me personally.
I don't consider email personal.
What you and I are doing, this is personal.
This is being human.
This is having a conversation.
But instead, they made a statement to appease someone or someone.
I don't believe the whole TPOSA, but a segment.
And I think it horribly backfired because I think what Americans are seeing is, oh my God, if they'll do it to her because she's in the adult entertainment industry, maybe because I'm in the industry, I'm next.
Or maybe because I'm a bartender, they're going to come after me.
And I was talking with my best friend about this very, what happened to you and kind of what's going on politically, just generally.
And it seems to me that there's sort of like a radicalization that's happening on both sides of the political spectrum.
And I think it has to do with social media in that if you are an influencer on social media, you probably, you're probably familiar with this as a porn star.
You put out content and you see which content gets the most engagement and then you make more content like that.
So if you have a segment of your audience where, you know, for example, every sort of radical evangelical type person, you know, if they engage 10 times more than just sort of like a middle of the road audience, then that's going to radicalize content from influencers so they can drive the most traffic, get the most followers, get the most ad revenue as possible.
It seems to me that on the left and the right, we do have the situation where our influencers are becoming more radicalized because the radical audiences engage the most with the content.
I think words are causing nothing but problems in our society and both on the right and the left.
Everybody's using language, redefining words, blah, blah, blah.
I think as Americans, we can all agree that there are very small percentages.
There are very small on both sides of the right and the left.
And I also believe most Americans are seeing with their own eyes that you cannot rule a very diverse country, the most amazing and diverse country in the world on a stream.
We need to be somewhere here where I think the majority of us live.
Most of us just want to live and let live.
Most of us just want our freedoms and liberties.
To my core, I believe that.
And as soon as we start speaking up to that, speaking against the radical right and the radical left, I believe we're going to get our country back.
But if we don't and we just sit here on our hands and go, oh, it's kind of weird, but I'm not going to say anything, then we're going to lose our country.
So if nothing comes of this, because this hasn't been fun, this hasn't been financially profitable, this has been the most bizarre success.
What I realize is if Americans just act like Americans and err on the side of freedom and Christians act like Christians and err on the side of love, we're going to be just fine.
So now, as someone who's been involved in the, in, um, in adult film, the adult industry, have, have you experienced any of the stereotypes that are like the negative stereotypes associated with the industry?
Like, I don't know, if you watch like the movie Boogie Knights, for example, Mark Wahlberg, a great movie, like you see, like there's a lot of, there's a lot of ugliness in that movie.
Obviously, it's just a movie.
And like, I guess what the question I'm trying to ask you is, like, is the adult film industry an industry that you would recommend to a young person, you know, who was interested in it?
Or is this something that you would like encourage young people to shy away from?
And I guess a good place for us to kind of wrap everything up would be to say, what do you think the Republican Party needs to do to be successful moving forward?
And what do you think is going to happen in 2022 and 2024?
But what I can tell you is if we're ever going to get the pro-America, America first, live and let live, freedom and liberty, if we're ever going to get that back, we actually have to practice what we preach as the right and be inclusive.
Within our own party, we've got Vince, I'm going to screw his name up, Colt.
I'm really bad because I'm mad at him.
He's not a very nice guy.
So I call him Vince colonoscopy, but it's like Vince Colonace, whatever.
And then we've got Candace Owens.
I made a meme on Twitter about it because I was like mind blown.
Both Republicans, both in the Republican Party.
She says, I'm sick of Big Tent.
Republicans got to stop talking Big Tent.
And two seconds later, Vince goes, we need to be a Big Ten party.
And I literally use Beavis and Butthead as the ending because I'm like, uh, what?
So for us normal people who aren't in the political realm, how do we, who am I following?
What does this party stand for?
We got to dumb it down.
It needs to be as simple as, you love America, you want freedom and liberty, you want to follow the Constitution, boom, you're in.
Well, if you don't know yet, it's highly entertaining and bizarre.
So not for the thin skinned, but Brandy underscore love is my Twitter.
And for those of you who like to have conversations about politics and everything we're not supposed to talk about and nudity, hit me up on onlybrandy.com.
Those are my two major hangouts.
And listen, Chase, as far as the future, do any of us know what tomorrow brings?
I'm open, I'm listening, and I'm trying to be very conscientious of where I'm supposed to go next.
