Brandi Love | Turning Point USA, Porn, & The Future For Conservatives | OAP #38
Chase Geiser is joined by Brandi Love.
Brandi Love started her own website, BrandiLove.com, in June 2004. In 2008, Love started performing for Los Angeles production companies. Throughout her career as an adult film performer, she became known for her appearances in MILF and "Hot Wife" productions.
In 2006, she collaborated with Gail Harris of Falcon Foto to form Naked Rhino Media, a multimedia company creating porn sites that feature exclusive niche-specific content. Then, in 2011, she began performing for adult studios. In 2013, it was announced that Kelly Madison Media was developing a new website for Love and would take part in the production of new content.
Since 2011, Love has performed in productions for companies such as Brazzers, Girlfriends Films, Hustler Video, Tom Byron Pictures,Naughty America and Wicked Pictures. Love appeared on the Penn & Teller: Bullshit! episode on "The War on Porn". She released her book, Getting Wild Sex from Your Conservative Woman, in 2008.
Love is a self-described conservative and Republican who supported Donald Trump and "voted for Bill Clinton back in the day". She has written articles for The Federalist, a conservative online magazine.
In July 2021, Love was banned from a Florida conference by the conservative student organization Turning Point USA, to which she had purchased an adult VIP ticket. Conservatives and others denounced her presence at a conference that minors would also attend.
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Brandi's Website: http://brandilove.com/
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It's Brandy Love on One American Podcast.
Thank you so much for being here.
How are you doing?
I'm honestly all things considered.
I'm doing great.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, it looked like you had a good dinner earlier.
I saw the salad that you ate.
It looked pretty legit.
Delicious.
I'll be honest.
There's I you know what?
I don't know about this whole kale thing, but when it's mixed with other good stuff, I'm okay.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I I I drunk a lot a lot with my mother-in-law because she's big on eating healthy ass.
Like, I just I can't do plants.
I'm sorry.
What do you eat?
Just like meat, protein?
I eat some plants, but yeah, just like a pasta, you know, just like a regular American.
I love fast food and pasta and you know all the unhealthy stuff.
That's fair.
So um it's been a wild ride.
You've been in the news a lot lately.
Um tell me about that.
What what happened exactly at TP USA?
Just I I and I I've intentionally not looked extensively into it because I just kind of wanted to hear the story fresh from you.
I mean, I'm familiar with just like the general synopsis, but what really what really how did it really play out?
It's pretty weird.
Um I'll admit my faults, and there is some naivety.
Um, I'm realizing now based on everything that's coming out.
Kind of naive.
And you wouldn't think for somebody who's in the adult industry that I would be so, but um, I was raised in a conservative home.
I've always carried constitutional policy and believing in America first and loving the country that I was born in, always, even though it was not always popular or a simple stance to take.
So I had a friend who mentioned that TPUSA was coming to Tampa.
It's like an hour and a half drive, no big deal.
And I looked it up and I thought, oh my god, Charlie Kirk.
Yeah, I followed him on Instagram before I got disabled.
And um I didn't know you got disabled from Ista.
Yeah, unfortunately, apparently me a picture with me and my dog was against community standards.
So, you know, censorship is awesome.
It's great.
So prior to that, what I knew about Charlie Kirk was can I can I can I say what I want to say, or do I have to be in my exactly what you want to say?
He's kind of a badass.
He's extremely quick, he's very sharp, he can answer any question.
He's not afraid.
Every video I watched was on a college campus confronting um progressive liberals and and really having an impressive debate, one that I'm not geared to do, but I'm impressed when I watch it.
So I certainly knew he was.
We've got Dan Bon Gino, we've got Kat Timff, we've got all these really DeSantis was gonna be there.
How could I not want to purchase a ticket and be a part of this awesome opportunity?
So I bought a ticket as a private citizen.
Um it's called an adult VIP ticket to a conference that is known based on their own website information as a college university professor.
We're I saw all the words.
I have college kids, so yeah, it's super important to me that this movement is pushed forward.
So bought the tickets, got the hotel, made the drive, excited as hell to be there around other patriots.
Um yeah, my lanyard said Brandy Love.
It's kind of a privacy thing, it's kind of like a normal thing.
I have other friends that were there with their names in the media.
Yeah, Lady Gaga wouldn't put Stephanie or whatever on her.
I'm pretty sure she's from Lady Gaga, because here's the thing.
If I put Steven Smith or you know, Dorothy Miller, it's kind of this that people recognize, even if I don't have a name tag on.
So it seemed kind of kind of weird.
But anyways, registration went great.
We walked the exhibit hall, had some great conversations, a few pictures were taken by clearly 18 individuals who I didn't approach, they approached me.
Sure.
It happens in The public eye, it happens.
Quick three or four selfies, whatever.
Go back hotel, get ready for the evening's events.
Three and a half hours of speakers.
Talking about anti-cancel culture, talking about censorship, talking about sacrifice for the conservative movement.
Like, yeah, I get all of that.
I got home or got back to the hotel, been off social media.
I popped it up.
Oh, look at this.
Breaking news.
Brandy love is kicked out of TPUSA.
Like, what?
I was I was just there.
You couldn't come back without without telling you first.
I found out from social media, and then I opened up my email based on what I saw on social media.
And I had an email that said that I'd been my lanyard had been revoked, that I'm not welcome back, and that the decision was final.
And um that's how all of this email.
The emails on social media.
You can it's brandy underscore love on Twitter.
I posted it because I wanted people to be able to see.
I'm not covering anything.
My stories never change.
There's continues to change, but my story is the exact same.
And um their reason stated something about their policy not allowing adult entertainment or influencers and a few other people, um, so much for inclusion or being inclusive.
Um here's the thing that was weird to me.
Uh Chase, I bought my ticket two months prior to the event under my name, Brandy Love, and nobody vetted me within that time.
Well, you think, especially since you bought a VIP ticket that they would have definitely looked into you because they wanted they would want to make sure that all the VIPs have it, you know, a good experience, right?
Who else who else don't they vet with all that time and with me being very forthcoming of who I am?
I I it still boggles my mind.
I still don't understand why this had to become such a controversial thing.
I was just an American woman showing up to a conservative conference.
So I'm also a follower and fan of Charlie Kirk.
One of the things that I've traditionally liked about Charlie is that I think that the Republicans do a really bad job of branding.
And TP USA is like really reaching young people, and it's you know, it's just kind of rebranding the party for the future in a way that traditionally I thought was you know positive.
Um, and uh uh I guess uh you know, I looked on the I looked on the TP USA website and I was like, okay, it's like what is their mission statement say?
And like nothing in their mission statement has anything about like traditional Christian values or you know, idea like evangelism or things typically associated with being anti-adult, you know, industry.
Uh and uh I guess my question for you is do you think Charlie was specifically behind it, or do you think it was just something that that you think parents were complaining?
Like, what's the deal?
Honestly, I can't, I I can't speak on what I don't know.
And nobody I've been three or four people have reached out to me.
Doesn't matter who, it doesn't matter what they said, but all three were different, all four four different everybody has a theory as to what happened, and in my opinion, it shouldn't matter.
A private citizen who believed in the conservative movement was booted out of a conference in which she bought a ticket for.
What's confusing about that?
Other than the fact that I got booted out, and I got booted out for a legal profession, one that I chose to do, and my free will as a grown-ass woman, and I've done for 16 years with no shame.
And I think maybe that's the problem.
I I guess I'm supposed to feel bad for whom I was designed to be.
And I that's not gonna, that's not gonna sway me.
I that's a very bizarre issue for me.
Yeah, so do you think that this is what what you saw at TP USA is like a reflection of the the Republican Party as a whole, or do you think this is like a fluke thing, which is kind of this organization?
I think it's a very small faction of zealots, and this is no different.
Here's the thing.
You've got you've got some factions on the right, and it Please, this is an education I've gotten in the last five days.
These are things that I maybe naively, but I did not know.
May I just I didn't know.
So we've got, as a Republican or conservative, I've always grown up thinking, wow, there's these crazy factions on the left, right?
They're pretty extreme.
And they've become more extreme.
We've got Antifa, we've got BLM.
That's not all Democrats.
Not all Democrats are progressive, right?
But then I thought there was a right.
That's me.
I kind of I like conservative policy.
Um, I love constitutional policy.
I believe in the police protecting us, I believe in law and order, second amendment, you know, the basics, low taxes.
Never in my life would I have thought that my own party would turn on me for my legal profession for owning and enjoying the liberties and freedoms promised to me by the Constitution of the United States.
Why would a conservative assume that I'd be kicked out by this conference that preaches those very things?
I'm still in a little bit of shock, to be honest with you.
Well, and I listened, I'm not sure if you ever listened to the um the portal podcast that um Eric Weinstein did with uh Riley Reed, uh, where they talked, they spoke a little bit about you know what it's like to be in the adult industry and stuff.
It's a great episode.
Have you ever seen have you listened to that or were you familiar with that?
No, but I'm going to when we're off air.
I'll send you a link.
I'll send you a link.
It blew my mind, and it was it was really funny to hear um uh uh Eric in that conversation because he's just sort of like a stereotypically brilliant mathematician physicist type, you know, and then here he is talking to like you know, one of the hottest women on the internet.
So it was like it was just a really funny dynamic, and I really enjoyed it.
But he has so many great questions.
And one of the things that came up in that interview was um, you know, how difficult it is for for a lot of adult entertainers to like get things as simple as like a bank account, right?
Like, do you have a hard time with like are you allowed on PayPal?
No, I got kicked off years ago, and I still feel I don't I still don't know what I did, and nor did they ever tell me that's that's a I've given up on all that.
Venmo kicked me off, PayPal kicked me off, and it for just being me, I didn't even really use those.
I it's that's a crazy story, but um, yeah, something of the past several days has come to my the forefront of my mind is I find it really intriguing and problematic that in this country and as humans, we're all born with these unique skill sets, right?
Like you're you're an awesome podcaster.
You you have this way about you, you get it, you know what you're doing, your lighting's right, and and you're just that's your skill set.
This is so out of my realm of comfort.
This is not my skill set.
I'm so nervous.
This is um you're doing great.
You're very kind, but my point is I know my skill sets, and people might laugh at my skill set, but let me tell you something.
It took years to be comfortable on a camera, it took years naked doing what I do for a living, and and to own it and be like, this is awesome.
Like I'm pretty good at this, and I keep getting better.
And when I get my emails from couples that go, we watch your porn and our sex life has gotten better and our marriage is better.
I mean years of these.
So the acts aren't so bad, but what I don't get is why can't we celebrate you with your skill set?
A carpenter for his awesome skill set, a musician for their ability to play the piano or sing a song.
Why can't sex workers be celebrated for their skill set and actually utilized when you have an issue and go, you know what?
Brandy might know how to give really great head.
I'm gonna get my husband tonight and hit her up.
And I answer her, and they have a great night.
That's my skill set.
Why does it have to be so poo-pooed and so negated to those people are shit?
They're degenerates.
I'm still here, by the way.
I think my camera just froze.
Uh, you should be able to hear me, though.
I'm just gonna reset it.
I saw that.
So uh I can hear you.
That's a really good uh uh point that you just made.
And I just I kind of want to segue segue.
I want to make sure that we, you know thoroughly touch on like the conservative conservative party and TP USA and everything going on there.
But um I do want to ask you just generally, how did you get into adult entertainment?
Uh you said it was 16 years ago.
What what kind of like brought you into the into the fold and and um uh what's that story?
Well, it's again, it's pretty simple.
Um, my husband and I he came from corporate America, I had a corporate job.
We wanted we've always been entrepreneurs.
We met in college, we were gonna open a gym, we were gonna do this, we had all these great ideas.
Both ended up in corporate America.
Thank goodness, because it taught us so much about owning a business, all the different skills you need to properly manage a business.
And um, we started a wine label business, and that was awesome.
It was great back in 2002, 2003, but we didn't know anything about the internet other than we enjoyed watching porn together.
That was like my idea of the internet.
And back when it took six hours to download a video.
But it was worth it.
I'm just saying.
So the company that we hired to build our website for the wine company.
No coincidence, in my opinion.
I don't believe in them.
I call them God of Winces.
It was supposed to happen.
They worked in the adult industry as affiliate managers, which means they pushed traffic, they understood the backside, the the business side of moving traffic.
And one day, I don't know what it was about us, but they looked at us and went, you guys ever considered like running a business in the adult industry?
And we both went, wait, what?
That's a business, like that's a thing.
I thought they were porn fairies, like they're these special people that have these amazing sexy skills, right?
We did a PL, we did a performa, we looked at each other and went, Oh my god, we need to do this.
This looks so fun.
And when it came time to decide who to invest our money into, I mean, who can you trust more than yourself?
I I woke up one morning, I said, babe, I I want to do it.
I want to, I want to be the fake, the face, the first sight, whatever you call it.
That's how silly I was.
I'm like, whatever it is, I want to do it.
He's like, uh, you know, everyone's gonna know.
And I'm like, oh, there's thousands of these women.
I mean, come on, let's just do this.
This will be fun.
And that started Brainy Love.com.
Wow.
Never looked back, never looked back.
So has it been has it been challenging like to be married and maintain like a healthy relationship and be in the be an adult industry performer?
Um, of course, there's those challenges.
I mean, we're human, it's it's a unique situation for sure.
But from the time we met in college, um, it's kind of a funny term, but we consider each other wild dogs, like you're a wild dog.
We just run free.
And the beautiful thing about finding my soulmate at the age that I did is we grew together, we bonded very early, and quite quickly into our marriage, we decided there's no plan B. I'm never gonna leave you.
You're never gonna leave me.
So let's just like approach the world as it's our oyster.
Let's just have fun.
And that's exactly that we both have thick skin because Lord knows people don't like when people live free.
Yeah, well, that's that's amazing.
Good on good on you guys.
I'm I'm happy for you in that.
And you know, I'm a I'm a follower of Ben Shapiro and I'm a follower of Ben Shapiro and other conservative influencers, you know.
I like to I like their input.
And one of the things that uh, you know, Ben Shapiro is famous for is he came out with a book, which I have not read in full disclosure.
But oh, I froze, can you hear me now?
Oh, we're back.
Okay, I got you.
You were saying you're a follower of hero.
Yeah, that broke the internet.
Yeah, yeah, no kidding.
And but you know, one of the things he did early in his career was he wrote a book, um, which I have not read on um, you know, the porn industry and the effects of porn on the mind and things like that.
Are you familiar with like any of those arguments or or points sort of against just pornography in general?
And do you have anything?
Do you have any like thoughts on that?
I've done a few debates.
Um, I did a three a three series videos with the Daily Caller um uh debating with Terry Schilling this very conversation, the neurological, the psychological, the financial, the uh addiction aspect, um, the accessibility to children online.
It's an awesome debate, to be honest with you.
And I spent about a week, uh, actually, that's not true.
I spent a lot more than that researching this very topic, so I knew what I was speaking of.
And at the end of the day, for every medical research that comes out against porn, there's an equivalent that says it's for porn.
Meaning, really, and what I believe is it's very individual.
It's it's up to the individual.
If it's a sin for you, you shouldn't watch it.
It's pretty simple.
But if it's not, who is the other guy to judge the other one for watching it?
That's true of tobacco, it's true of alcohol, it's true of pretty much everything.
If it's a problem for you, you shouldn't do it.
If it's not, that pretty much deems to be healthy.
I mean, little boys are born holding on to their ding-ding.
There's a reason that's our sexuality, it's a gift.
And I don't know that I'll ever understand why sex worker and the industry is attacked so brutally when it's pretty much the most natural thing known to man.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
That's that's really interesting.
And I'll have to go back in uh and check out those debates because I'm interested in that conversation too.
Um I'm gonna have to go read this book.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
And I can't remember what year it was that he wrote it, and I'm sure it's very good, but I'll find it.
Yeah, and I don't know what his position is on TPS TP USA kicking you out or not.
Um, I'm sure that he's he mentioned it on a show.
I haven't listened to that episode, but um, you know, it's just seems to me that conservatism is supposed to be the party of liberty, and I think the dogmatism that's been associated with the party from you know 20, 30 years ago with you know the staunch sort of anti-gay marriage positions that the party had for a long time.
I think that dogmatism is really a big part of the reason that the Republican Party is having problems today, especially in terms of getting young people come to be comfortable with with the party.
And I was just kind of I was disappointed, but I was more surprised to see that an organization so um heavily associated with appealing specifically to the college age demographic.
I mean, it's kicking the snot out of like every college republicans group.
They are just like taking over these campuses, and I could not believe that they would make a the branding decision that they made to um uh not welcome you.
Well, you know, the thing that's unfortunate is let's be honest, maybe they're pissed that I have a bigger reach to college students, just saying, and where they messed up is instead of working together and just going, look, a patriotic woman who believes in the conservative movement movement, we can reach all these people, right?
We can reach more than we already have.
Not me, it's not about me.
I I wasn't there as a speaker, I wasn't there to promote them, but I was.
I actually posted a picture of me getting my registration, geeking out and fanning out about being there because I was so excited, and they actually use that against me saying that I'm promoting them on my porn social media.
Well, first of all, if you could see any of the adult content on my profile, it's because you followed me.
I have my settings to sensitive content, which means you not only have to seek me out, you have to you have to follow me, and then you have to go into your profile and click the little button that says you're willing to see sensitive content.
So whoever discovered who I was, claiming that I have an explicit Twitter did those three things to discover that there was any adult content whatsoever, which again I find extremely intriguing.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
So it sounds to me like what happened was there were just some uh influential people within the organization that were that were raising a fuss, and somebody decided that they had to um ask you to leave rather than suffer the the pain of pissing off some influencer within the within the organization.
That's just off the top of my head.
But it backfired.
I think so.
If they want me there, and they could have come to me and been adults about it and said, you know what, Brandy, we hate to do this.
This is this sucks, and it it's kind of embarrassing because it is.
But we're it would you be willing to just you know bow out whatever we'll take care of things?
It's just too problematic.
You know what?
I'm a reasonable human being.
I could I could have considered all of these things if they had talked to me and I could have gone, ooh, okay.
I look, I don't want to be a problem.
They didn't they didn't do that.
They chose not to do that.
They never reached out to me personally.
I don't consider email personal.
What you and I are doing, this is personal.
This is being human.
This is having a conversation.
But instead, they made a statement to appease someone or someone.
I don't believe the whole TP USA, but a segment.
And I I think it horribly backfired because I think what Americans are seeing is oh my god, if they'll do it to her because she's in the adult entertainment industry, maybe because I I'm in the tech industry, I'm next, or maybe because I'm a bartend, they're gonna come after me.
Where does it end?
Yeah, that makes sense.
And I was talking with my um my best friend uh about this very uh what what happened to you and kind of what's going on politically, um, just generally, and it seems to me that there's sort of like a radicalization that's happening on both for on both sides of the political spectrum.
And I think it has to do with social media in that if you are an influencer on social media, and you probably you're probably familiar with this as a as a porn star.
You you you put out content and you see which content gets the most engagement, and then you make more content like that.
So if you have a segment of your audience where you know, for example, every you know, sort of radical evangelical type person, you know, if they engage 10 times more than just sort of like a middle of the road audience, then that's gonna radicalize content from influencers so they can drive the most traffic, get the most followers, get the most ad uh uh ad revenues possible.
And it seems to me that on the left and the right, we do have the situation where our influencers are becoming more radicalized because the radical audiences engage the most with the content.
To me, it's pretty simple.
Um and I I like to keep it that way.
I think words are causing nothing but problems in our society and both on the right and the left.
Everybody's using language, redefining words, blah blah blah.
I think as Americans, we can all agree um that there are very small percentages, they're very small on both sides of the right and the left.
And I also believe most Americans are seeing with their own eyes that you cannot rule a very diverse country, the most amazing and diverse country in the world on a stream.
We need to be somewhere here where I think the majority of us live.
Most of us just want to live and let live.
Most of us just want our freedoms and liberties.
I to my core, I believe that.
And as soon as a man starts speaking up to that, speaking against the radical right and the radical left, I believe we're gonna get our country back.
But if we don't, and we just sit here on our hands and go, oh, it's kind of weird, but I'm not gonna say anything, then we're gonna lose our country.
So i if nothing comes of this, because this hasn't been fun, this hasn't been financially profitable, this has been the most bizarre six what I realize is it if Americans just act like Americans and err on the side of freedom, and Christians act like Christians and err on the side of love, we're gonna be just fine.
Yeah, that's right.
That was a really good tweet that you made.
And I remember when you made that that comment specifically, and I think that's really really powerful.
And that being said, um this whole TPUSA thing has been good for your um your engagement online, hasn't it?
Do I still have you there?
Did I lose you?
Yeah, but you know what?
I'm a capitalist.
There we go.
I think we're uh sorry, I think you might have a little bit of a um internet connection issue.
You're you're popping in and out a little bit.
I haven't totally lost you yet.
Can you hear me?
Okay, I can hear and see you.
I can hear you.
Okay.
You're good.
It's just a little intermittent.
Go ahead.
Sorry, you were you were saying you're a capitalist.
Everybody's surfing porn at that hour, so it messes with the internet.
Um at the end of the day, the reality is not I'm a capitalist and I I absolutely love that about this country.
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I don't know what's going on.
Uh servers must be busy, everybody's uh everybody's searching for Brandy Love on on the internet.
Oh my god.
Hopefully they're searching for you too.
Yeah, right.
Well, I'm not I I'm not in any um, yeah.
I was gonna ask you, how does a guy like me get in get into your industry?
Look, that it's no easier than a girl like me getting into yours.
If you've got the skill set, you're beautiful.
You're you're built beautiful and talented.
Oh well, you like right back at you.
And we both do the very thing that we were designed to do.
It's that simple.
Right, right.
So now um, as someone who's been involved in the in um in adult film, the adult adult industry, have have you um like experienced any of the stereotypes that are like the negative stereotypes associated with the industry?
Like, I don't know, if you watch like the movie Boogie Nights, for example, Mark Walberg, great movie, like you see, like there's a lot of there's a lot of ugliness in that movie.
Obviously, it's just a movie.
And like I I guess what the question I'm trying to ask you is like, is the adult film industry an industry that you would recommend to a young person, you know, who was interested in it, or is it something that you would like encourage young people to shy away from?
Um it's a great question, and the answer is neither.
I think it's extremely important to follow the path that you've been given.
Um, whether whether certain people like it or not, my path is been handed to me, and I chose not to disregard it.
Is it easy?
No.
Um coming out as a conservative Christian porn star, who would do that?
Knowing what I am now, I I asked myself, like, oh my god, what are you thinking?
And looking up to God, going, really, why would you do this?
And at the end of the day, I'm like, thank you.
I'm doing exactly what I was meant to do, and it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks about it.
It's not their call.
And I wouldn't never choose to say to anybody, oh, you should do this, that's what you should do, it'll make you happy.
Under no circumstance would I do that.
That job is taken, in my opinion.
And I think everybody should seek to do what makes them happy and follow their passion.
Because when you do that, um you're just a much happier person.
And right now, especially this last week, I see so many people are so miserable.
How do you preach be a Christian and be so freaking mean?
And your face is so mad, and you're just you're growling at the screen, and I'm going, I'm like, how is that joy-filled life?
Because I'm cool, man.
I'm having a great time.
Life is good.
What are you so mad about?
So I wish people would think a little bit more about their message before they put it out there because it's pretty contradictory.
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
And um, I I guess uh a good place for us to kind of um wrap everything up would be to say uh what do you think the Republican Party needs to do to be successful moving forward?
And um what do you think is gonna happen in 2022 and 2024?
Your guess is man, your guess is as good as mine.
What I do hope is um for the Republican Party for the for the conservative movement, we're always gonna have differences of opinion.
We're always going to have different brands of Christianity.
We can have agnostics, we can have Jewish people, we can have Catholics.
We should all be welcome.
We really should practice what we preach, which is inclusion.
Um if we do that, the whole world is against us tonight.
So yeah, what I'm saying is 2022, 2024, what do you think is gonna happen?
What what does the Republican Party need to do to be successful moving forward?
Well, you get your guess is truly as good as is mine.
But what I can tell you is if we're ever going to get the pro-America, America first, live and let live, freedom and liberty.
If we're ever gonna get that back, we actually have to practice what we preach as the right and be inclusive within our own party.
We've got Vince, I'm gonna screw his name up, Colt.
I'm really bad because I'm mad at him.
He's not a very nice guy, so I call call him Vince Colonoscopy, but it's like Vince Collinese, whatever.
And then we've got Candace Owens.
I made a meme on Twitter about it because I was like mind-blown.
Both Republicans, both in the Republican Party.
She says, I'm shake a big 10.
Republicans gotta stop talking big 10.
And two seconds later, Vince goes, we need to be a big 10 party.
And I literally use Beavis and Butthead as the ending because I'm like, uh what?
So for us normal people who aren't in the political realm, how do we who am I following?
What does this party stand for?
We gotta dumb it down.
It it needs to be as simple as you love America, you want freedom and liberty, you want to follow the constitution, boom, you're in.
Let's go.
Let's make this country great.
It's that simple.
And if the Republican Party do that.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, and that you can't win an election if um if you're not big 10.
I mean, in order to re win an election, you have to get a majority of votes, or at least you know, most of the time you have to get a majority of votes.
So I mean, if you're gonna be a small 10 political party, then you know you could be the green party or something lame like that.
Well, never win an election, you know.
In the grand scheme of things, who likes elitists?
Who wants to deal with gatekeepers?
Americans are born to use a kid rock line, we're born free.
We want that.
It's in our nature.
So stop trying to squash us and stick us into a little box that you define.
It's we the people, they work for us, not the other way around.
Yeah, absolutely.
So, where can people find you and what is next for you in the world?
Well, if you don't know yet, it's highly entertaining and bizarre.
So, not for the thin skinned, but Brandy underscore love is my Twitter.
And for those of you who like to have a conversations about politics and everything we're not supposed to talk about and nudity, hit me up on only brandy.com.
Those are my those are my two major hangouts.
And listen, Chase, as far as the future, do any of us know what tomorrow brings?
I'm open, I'm listening, and I'm trying to be very conscientious of where I'm supposed to go next.
But right now, I'm super happy right where I am.
That's great.
Well, I'm happy for you.
God bless you.
And is everyone anything you need?
Let me know.
And thank you so much for taking the time to come on, tell your story, um, uh, and add the the human factor to this political mess that's going on.
