Stephen K. Bannon and Frank Walker allege Pope Leo XIII is advancing a cultural Marxist agenda via Vatican-sponsored movements, citing a 140-page Le Panto Institute report. They condemn US bishops as "hireling shepherds" for opposing Trump's asylum restrictions while ignoring homelessness, arguing current leadership ignores traditional anti-communist teachings. The hosts urge Catholics to reject this perceived satanic bait-and-switch and reclaim agency, concluding with a brief note on a Byzantine-era church discovery in Bethsaida potentially linked to Peter. [Automatically generated summary]
So the Le Panter Foundation has just Produced a couple of days ago a 140 page report that details how,
inverted commas, Pope Leo has used a number of meetings of, again, inverted commas, popular movements that have been sponsored by the Vatican at various locations.
And I say, inverted commas, popular movements, because on Analysis on investigation.
These are basically just fronts for what appears to be little more than cultural Marxism dressed up, speaking the language of the church to get a foot through the door, but then to radically undermine the actual teachings of the church.
Frank, just before we start breaking down what the Le Panto Institute has reported.
In this very in depth document, I just want to ask Denver if you'd kindly put up the graphic I sent through from how Frank, your very own website, Canon 212, pushed this because I think it was absolutely true.
It's basically Pope Leo telling the communists that he's there, that he's listening to them, and that he's with them.
I think that graphic there that you can see on the screen really.
Does I think Frank compliment you to you that really does bring out the sheer horror of what faithful Catholics now have to deal with?
And again, whereas Pope Francis, inverted commas, of unhappy memory, was quite overt and blatant about his communist agitating, it was easy in a political sense to oppose him.
It's far more difficult with Leo when we have.
Key points of reference in the Catholic social media sphere, the trad Catholic social media sphere, telling their followers on social media that not to be too aggressive with Leo, because really he's one of us.
He's given him time, he's looking for opportunities to open up access back up to the traditional Latin mass.
Frank, tell me then about this report that was just produced a couple of days ago and about.
The popular movements that the Vatican has been hosting and what they stand for, and why on earth is the Vatican, I ask a rhetorical question here, but why on earth is the Vatican giving a voice and credibility to these movements that, to the extent that we know what they stand for, it is the dissolution of the Catholic faith?
Yes, it was quite a shock when this first happened, because it's happened five times now that they've had this meeting with Francis.
You might remember way back when we first got Francis, he had a meeting, and I think it was in Ecuador, and he got a gifted Cameron Sickle crucifix, which put communism together with the cross of Christ.
And they have a picture of him sort of liking it, and they have a picture of making a stern face at it, but it was such a shock when it happened.
That is the beginning of what we've had all this time, which is.
A creation of sort of a communist church.
Francis went on to say that communists stole the flag of Christianity because Christianity all of the poor mingling them together, admitting that communism was what his religion was.
And this group, the world, the popular movements group, they're not like other communists.
We live in sort of a communist world in so many ways, and so many people push the agenda of communism.
But they don't say it.
But these groups, this world media popular movement, there's just many, many of a collection of them all together.
They say it.
They say it outright.
They read Karl Marx at family gatherings.
They say who they are.
And that's the difference.
So it's such a shock that Leo actually addressed the latest one of these groups back in the fall when he was first made pope.
And I want you to know that there was a founder of modern communism who was an Italian.
Italians can be very good at communism.
Antonio Gramsci, and the way he went about it was not through like violent revolution so much, but through degrading the people morally, degrading the people, turning them into sort of a depraved people in order to be able to conquer them that way, because they would not be resistant that way.
And people mention over and over, he's dead now.
Yuri Besmanov from the KGB back in the 80s talked about how we were being targeted in the United States for demoralization.
And that's what is happening here.
And that's why we have a linking with the Catholic Church in the Francis and Leo era, openly with these groups.
And so Leo gave a speech in Rome to this group of popular movements at a venue that was an old communist venue that is also, and if you look one by one through this enormous report by the wonderful Lepanto Institute, you can see that all of these communist popular movement groups are also very pro LGBT.
Very pope feminist, very much the program that I just mentioned by Gromsky and Yes, Besman of how to install communism.
And well, anyway, there are rude pictures in this venue.
So I don't think Leo actually was there, but there were other, like the vicar of Rome was there, and Cardinal Cerny was there.
And there's a new phase that this represents.
It's going into just like you saw in the synod document, there's a synodal phase of unity, of integration happening now with this latest meeting of the world popular movements.
Let's just look at this then in context, because you quite correctly mentioned Antonio Gramsci, who's like the high priest of cultural Marxism.
It's often attributed to him, the expression.
I don't know if he ever said it, but it's definitely attributed to him because it sort of indicates his philosophy here.
I think it was the slow march through the institutions, right?
This is if you really want to get communism to take root, you have to.
capture the cultural institutions that people look towards and defer towards and infiltrate them.
And being a slow march, this is something that is gradual and it will take time.
But once you do that, you will then be able to move forward with the agenda of installing cultural communism then to get to economic communism.
Though, Frank, I don't know if you'd agree with me, but I actually think cultural communism is even worse than economic communism.
Communism, which in itself is pretty bad.
Now, you also mentioned the strategy of demoralization.
Say what that is in a bit, if you wouldn't mind, just break that down for perhaps the war in Posse that might be new to the term.
Because I think if you see, having said a bit about Antonio Gramsci, having said a bit then about these world meetings of popular movements, which are basically cultural Marxist fronts, and Leo basically gives them the full throated endorsement.
Beneath the radar, of course, but lets them know that he's there with them as a fellow traveler when he says, sort of, I am with you, which is very clear, indicating.
It's the sort of thing that Bedgold, you would have said, assuming that people are too stupid to see what he's doing.
And even if they see what they're doing, they're too weak and cowardly to openly oppose him on it.
But I think it's quite clear that Leo is following the Francis agenda.
Tell us, however, because that's the missing link, I think, about the demoralization.
Well, from what I understand, it's the same kind of thing as Gromsky.
Even in the 80s, he said it was pretty much complete in the United States.
And I know that in that time period, you know, just in my lifetime, all the families began to dissolve into divorce.
But I think you can see why union with the church, and in fact, it was in the 70s, the 60s, and the 70s that all these new immoral things became modern and believable and just okay.
And in fact, and also, Dissolution of faith in Christian faith.
So he, uh, um, uh, Besmanov said that it would, you would get to such a point where they could even put us in the gulag and we still wouldn't believe that we were there, that we would, we could be faced with the injustice of communism right in our face and not be able to do anything about it.
And that's kind of where we are now.
And it's good to see things like this people actually naming themselves in communism, linking with what's supposed to be the Catholic Church to help us, you know, look at the way we think and say, Have I been led into this?
Is this atheism?
Is this anti Christian feeling that I grew up in?
Is this laissez faire attitude about morals?
Is this just my own idea?
Are these ideas been sort of given to me?
Has this been built in the culture around me?
Don't just accept and try to explore things that are not handed to you through the media.
I think that's what you have to resist that demoralization.
You have to undo it.
And I think the best way is to see this rebirth in the church that we're having today is rebirth in the church, the sacraments, mass, and prayer is how you undo that kind of thing because that's just a miraculous effect on people.
And of course, as the revival is taking place, we know who's going to be in first position to try and kick in the back of the knees the Generation Z that is on fire for the faith like nothing we've ever seen in my life.
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Now they're just going to cut it back completely.
And also, they're going to cut back your educational assistance.
The bishops have, you know, they've complained that they'll lose federal housing cash and that there's a one year waiting period for them to work for employment.
So, this is against everything that Jesus taught, according to the bishops.
They're crying about family separations because some will have to just leave and some will have to split up who's living in the house.
Some people are going to get kicked out because of the way they changed the policy.
And it's a heartbreaking choice.
It'll drive up homelessness, they say.
Some of them might not be able to find their paperwork.
And all of that, they're denying subsidies to people with mixed status is just morally wrong.
Now, do you think that?
I mean, you know, so if you think that's wrong, I would have to differ with you on that.
They say that the employment rule is flat out illegal because sometimes people can't work, but they're illegal aliens.
The dignity of the human person and the right to have work, see, that's what they're going against.
And the Bible, the gospel says to welcome the stranger.
How many times have they said that?
It's not true.
The gospel says to welcome the stranger.
And what about the preferential option for the poor?
The bishops say, and that's in Vatican II.
They say that all the time.
Where is that?
That's not the gospel.
And it's against the common good.
And you're supposed to be able to provide in a dignified way.
That means that it's everybody's responsibility to make sure that illegal aliens, not only that they have jobs, but it's dignified.
You know, I mean, I got to be really dignified.
And they have to be able to use their God given talents too.
What I like about these bishops, even though their knowledge of the gospel is scant, if not zero, they're now setting themselves up as judges, basically, as experts in jurisprudence.
They're setting themselves up as the Supreme Court.
Because, as you say, the Catholic bishops have come out and said that this proposed employment rule.
Violates the law, which is wow.
I didn't know bishops had that charism enabled to look at the law and see, look at a proposed law, excuse me, and say before it's even been written that it is against the Constitution.
It's no different because exactly what we have seen since the Second Vatican Council, which I think finished in 1965, is the whole scale importation.
Of communism, of masquerading as Catholic social teaching, right?
And that is the one thing that Catholics aren't allowed to speak out against.
You're allowed to speak out against the church's position on pro life or on the Catholic church's traditional teaching on human sexuality.
Those things you have a free reign to speak out against if you don't like them.
The Marxism that has entered the church and the social Catholic teaching, that's not questionable.
You're not allowed to question that, right?
And the irony is, Frank Walker, tell me if I'm right or wrong on this.
I thought, it was my understanding that most of what pertains to such Catholic social teaching is really prudential judgment issues about which, on which, the Catholic layman is free to form his.
Or her own opinion on how best to get to the common good.
But the popes up to Pius XII condemned, excommunicated you for supporting communism.
That means that these bishops and Pope Leo are excommunicated by church teaching by previous popes.
I mean, that's the kind of thing that we're up against now.
And there's a, at this Catholic World Report, and you know, this is the Feast of Our Lady of Fatima, who said that.
Russia will spread its communist errors throughout the world if you don't consecrate Russia to my Immaculate Heart.
And it was not done.
It wasn't really done, but even if it wasn't, it wasn't done in time.
And you can see they're spread well throughout the church.
And this Catholic World Report piece here on the bishops and the illegal aliens, which is also a part.
There's a guy, Luca Casarelli.
You might know him, Ben.
Luca Casarelli was involved in that movement, popular movement.
He's also involved in illegal aliens.
He was also arrested for a communist protest that was violent, where somebody died against Berlusconi.
And he was the one that came up with that picture of Leo holding up a communist banner when he was younger during the Reagan administration.
And he was protesting missiles placed against Russia when they were fighting against communist Russia.
There's a picture of Leo.
Leo is a communist going way back.
And this Luca Casarini has made that clear.
This Luca Casarini, he's a communist organizer in Italy and was at this World Popular Movement's meeting.
He knows Leo a long time.
And well, anyway, he's also pushing the illegal aliens agenda as well.
And at the Cathedral Report, there's a comment by a guy named Oscar at the bottom of that that shows all the crimes of illegal aliens in the United States, one after another, after another, after another.
These are real lives.
These are real violent things.
These are the kind of things that make society impossible to live in.
You know, there's a piece yesterday by a guy in Germany said, I can't raise my kids.
He's a comedian in Germany with 2 million followers.
I'm going to have to come out of this country because it's not safe here anymore.
Well, continuing the narrative then of some of the things that we're hoovering up and putting together over the last month or so, is this story a report in the Spanish newspaper, El País, the Spanish national newspaper to a certain extent?
That the Pope had told the Spanish bishops when he was giving them their audience just in November of last year that his biggest concern in Spain right now was that of, in his words, far right ideology.
He was warning the bishops about the rise of political groups that, in his words, seek to win the Catholic vote and instrumentalize the church, which, Frank Walker, that seems somewhat ironic to me.
Because that, I think, is exactly what they're trying to do.
It's exactly what the Vatican is trying to do, is it not?
And you even mentioned this weekend, you're talking to Steve, that he has nothing Catholic in his whole platform.
It's all political, what he does.
And, you know, Francis was the same.
Francis always warned against ideologies.
But when Francis was warning against ideologies, it's so ironic, I always think, because what he really means is he's warning against Catholicism and.
The political implementation of Catholicism, not just the faith, but the faith actually lived and acted out in terms of laws and society.
That's what he calls ideology.
And what his own communists, as we see today, communists and on the Feast of Our Lady of Fatima, ideology, he calls that Catholicism.
Francis said that they stole the Catholic flag, these communists.
And so when Leo goes to the Spanish bishops and he warns against ideology, it's kind of funny because, I mean, they're all liberal ideologues at this point.
But it shows you, you know, because Leo is from Peru.
Peru is a, you know, Latin America is a Spanish society, but it's had liberation theology, which is communism called as, you know, pretending to be Catholicism for a long time.
So they've implemented it there for years and years, and it's well installed, but in Spain, not so much.
So he's coming there and he wants Spain to be more like Peru and Bolivia.
The strategy now, not only of the present Pope, but the immediate predecessor, is to take the traditional Catholic faith and reject it.
And reject those who hold that, reject it as ideology, and take cultural Marxism and say that is the Catholic faith, that is what you have to believe and subscribe to.
I think you put that pretty well.
It's a bait and switch.
And I think it's spiritual abuse.
It's spiritual abuse because the Catholic Church teaches Catholics, drawing from its interpretation of the Ten Commandments, that if you miss Mass on a single Sunday, you are in a state of sin.
And if you don't go to confession, you will spend eternity in hell if you miss one Mass on Sunday.
That is the perennial teaching of the church, which I'm quite happy to say that is the truth.
But what they're doing is they're using that discipline on faithful Catholics to make them subscribe to a philosophy which is of the world and not of Jesus Christ.
And it happened on day one when Francis showed up.
And so he comes to Spain and he's surprisingly strong.
And there was, even though there was not a lot of hubbub about it, the people that did hear it said, wow, I can't believe he said that.
But he warned them, you know, not to let these ideologues, you know, instrumentalize the faith.
Like you say, when he says the faith, he means communism.
And so this happened some months back, I think.
But there's, you know, in Spain, they have just legalized through fiat.
A half a million Muslims, and they have many, many more there, and people are up in arms and furious about it.
Um, he the Pope sees in Al Paz, they say a prelate says the Pope sees the extreme right uses believers for its purposes.
And in uh, and then he's France, Leo is getting ready to go to Spain, and he's going to visit the Canary Islands, and he's going to do like a Lampedusa stunt there where he waves illegal aliens in there.
I mean, how unpopular is that going to be?
That's going to be extremely unpopular, but he's still fighting hard against it, and the bishops are all joining him.
It writes that the bishops received a papal directive to watch the activities of, and I quote, the far right carefully.
That's their job.
That is the bishop's job in Spain.
It is to monitor Vox and report back to the Vatican.
It's not to promote the gospel.
It's not to promote the kingdom of Jesus Christ or the teachings of Jesus Christ.
It's to monitor Spanish patriots who are supporting a party which is openly part of its platform, is open about protecting the Christian roots of Spanish society.
That is what this Vatican.
The present Vatican and its immediate predecessor.
It's what they cannot abide and what they cannot support.
And Frank Walker, the reason why we come on this show every Wednesday, we say the same thing again and again and again, is because Catholics need to be fully aware of this and to be able to use their agency to act in the best interest of preserving their faith for themselves, for their family.
There's nothing more essential for a lay Catholic than that, than the preservation of the true, unchanging Catholic faith.
And the people that Christ appointed and gave the charism to safeguard the integrity of the Catholic faith are now using that office to undermine the Catholic faith and under obedience to get Catholics to believe what is basically the gospel of this world.
As I said before, it really is quite satanic in its subtlety.
I mean, it's only subtlety if you are badly, if you're not paying attention.
If this is the most important thing in your life and you're praying for this, you're praying for the ability to remain true to the Catholic faith, the wiles of the devil are extremely obvious to see, right?
They're not subtle.
They're only subtle to those who are spiritually asleep.
Let's put it like that.
And again, to come back to the point, Catholic laity needs to rediscover, Its sense of agency in exactly the same way that Republicans have done in the United States.
They've rediscovered their sense of agency and they've taken control back over their party.
And we need to do the same in the Catholic Church and bring the Catholic Church out of the hands of the hireling shepherds that are driving it into the ground to set it back on its true path.
And as you said when we were discussing this very subject a couple of episodes ago, Frank Walker, you said it is true that the traditional Catholic, of course, View is as of the church as a hierarchy with the laity in its place and bishops and cardinals and popes appointed in a hierarchical order in order to preserve that.
But that is not what we have at the moment because the church has been hijacked by a cabal of hireling shepherds.
So the way around that is long term.
I don't know what the long term solution is.
You're absolutely correct that the long term solution will be for the laity.
To obey faithful Catholic bishops, but we're not there and we have to get there, right?
We have to have sort of a re revolution and take back our church from people who aren't Catholic.
If you're not a faithful Catholic, you really have no right to any position in the clergy.
And so we're not obligated to obey people who are enemies of Christ and the teaching of all the previous popes.
Like, I just said, just Pius XII is a recent pope.
He excommunicated people like Leo and all of the other freaks at this event in Rome.
You know, it's just amazing.
And the Vox Party in Europe is a great example of saying, we're representing Catholic teaching.
We're representing the historical Christian voice in the country.
And you can see here that the bishops are not.
And Trump has done that too.
You can see here that Leo is not representing what's actual Catholic teaching over peace.
And with his pacifism, it's not peace, and it's not Catholic teaching.
And these bishops have done the same to the Vox Party here.
They say, well, you're not Catholic, you're anti Catholic.
They call the conservatives anti Catholic fascists, just like Leo and all the bishops called Trump anti Catholic.
They're even putting up big TV sets in the Catholic masses in Miami and all around the country to have a prayer against anti Catholic Trump.
But the confrontation is important because every instance of defending the actual true faith, which people know in their hearts, the true faith against these bishops and pointing them out for where they are, like they have with this Vox.
Like they do, their bishops, they target them directly.
You're just trying to cover up your pedophilia and you're just trying to get government money.
That's what they say all the time to the Spanish business.
Leo's coming there and he's going to pull an extremely unpopular stunt in that country that's only going to please globalists.
So politically, it's just a you know, it's nothing.
Frank, they're hiding shepherds and they have already had their reward.
The solution forward is to awaken Catholics out of their sense of slumber.
And as we do, as you do in Canon 212 every day, as we do on the womb, awaken Catholics out of their sense of complacency, rediscover their sense of agency, and put the church back on the right path because Christendom, Western civilization, depends on it.
Frank, we've got some good news today, I think, going back to the Gospels, a small town mentioned in the Gospels where our blessed Lord fulfilled a number of miracles has been rediscovered after 2000 years.
Stay with this.
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So, Frank Walker, closing five minutes of the show.
Well, I think it was in some area of brush that's nearby.
But they found an old Byzantine era church and underneath that a house.
And they're thinking that that's.
Could be the house of Peter because this was the town of Peter, Andrew, and Philip.
And so that's a big deal to find the first Pope's actual house in the town where Jesus fed the 5,000 and where Jesus healed a blind man and where he walked on water nearby.
So it was, you know, and Jesus yelled at the town of Bethsaida.
He said, Woe to you if all the works performed and you were performed in other places, they would have put on sackcloth and ashes, but you didn't.
You know, you didn't repent and you should repent.
These are all the biblical references to this.
So, if you've actually found a church that was over the house of Peter, that's a big deal.
They're not making it like it's definite, they're saying it, but it's about as compelling as it gets in this talk that they gave in Washington, D.C.
I think it's a very hopeful story because, you know, if we can find a house of Peter again, then maybe we can actually get a Catholic Pope again.
But I find, I don't want to be cynical, but I find the dropping of this particular, because of course it's going to get a lot of Americans very interested right now, wanting pilgrimages to go over to the Holy Land.
I do insist, however, that unlike the mainstream media narrative, we don't consider, not on the war room, Leo as being the first American pope.
Because I think his formation is totally Latin American.
Folks, it's amazing how quickly an hour goes.
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