Episode 5220: Secret Deals Behind Live Nation Settlement; SAVE America Act Must Pass
Stephen K. Bannon opens March 16, 2026, by urging listeners to support MAGA Media before discussing the Save America Act's controversial provisions on mail-in voting and transgender surgeries. Guests Eric Bowling and Captain James Finnell debate Middle East oil strategies, while Luke Goldstein exposes a secret $280 million Live Nation settlement ignored by state attorneys general. John Solomon reports on China's alleged 2020 voter database infiltration, and Cleta Mitchell outlines a "talking filibuster" to pass election integrity laws. Ultimately, the episode highlights urgent legislative maneuvers to secure American voting rights amidst geopolitical tensions and corporate monopolies. [Automatically generated summary]
President of the United States has notified us on Truth Social that he is preparing to have an impromptu press conference or press briefing prior to the lunch he's going to have with the Trump Kennedy Center board in the, I guess, over at the White House.
Imagine they're going to lunch in the state dining room, but this is going to take place in the East Room.
Of course, Real America's Voice are covered all live.
So we're going to juggle some of what's going on in the show, including we've got Jenny Bethmart and Cleta going to join us about what's going to take place.
Now, now I understand the Save America is going to be Wednesday instead of Tuesday.
And there's some controversy about whether this is to protect Cornyn or not.
We'll get into all of that.
I want to go back to Eric Bowling.
Eric, I want to be, you're not talking your book.
You're doing an analysis of why you're saying the way the market is structured and the Ford pricing you see.
Remember, these prices are both speculators and companies that have legitimate reasons to hedge out.
You're actually not just a big supporter of President Trump.
You've always wanted lower prices.
But one more time, just as it indicates today in the briefing that CENCOM gave, added with additional analysis by two former naval intelligence officers, Jack Pesopic and Captain Finnell, your thoughts before he lets you go.
So, Steve, 100%, I've been doing this for 36 years, the oil markets.
I've been watching the Middle East play games with us for 36 years, whether it's OPEC, the Iranians, whomever.
I want to fix it.
I want a solution that solves it.
If you don't like the solution that we've come up with on the show, there's another one as well.
There's a pipeline that started in Saudi Arabia.
You bring the pipeline through where you can actually get Saudi oil, Bahrain oil, UAE oil, oil through it so you can tell the Iranians to pound sand for good.
And again, the solution we came up with takes us out of all the problems.
But you want to talk about taking us out of a problem.
What we're doing right now is effective to get shipping lanes open.
We haven't solved the problem of Iranian fanaticism.
It'll just pop up again, whether it's three years from now or seven months from now.
We need to fix this so we don't ever are never beholden by another barrel of Middle Eastern oil.
Nuclear is one way.
A pipeline is a way, a fix.
This is the shortest term fix is what Trump and they're doing right now.
I love President Trump.
I want him to win.
I want us to win midterms, but at $4 or $450 or $5 a gallon of gasoline, we're going to get smoked in the midterms.
So the fix should be to pound the Iranians into the sand, all of not just their military capabilities or their infrastructure.
Go to the telecom, go to media, go to other industries, pound them into submission that they finally say, fine, give us what you want.
What do you want?
Steve, they produced 3 million barrels of oil today.
They can produce seven or eight.
There is so much room for us to participate in those additional barrels.
And the only way to do it is get them to their knees, not this surgical strikes that we're doing right now.
You have to take out.
Unfortunately, a lot of innocent people will probably die, but the only way to solve the problem going forward is, again, getting the Iranians in a position where they have no options.
Every time we talk about it, we get a bunch of your fans.
And I lean into you at 4 o'clock on Real America's Voice, which is always a great place, or Eric at Eric Bowling across all social media platforms as well.
Well, Steve, just one comment about the Red Sea and the Houthis.
Right now, and for the last week and a half or more, the USS Gerald R. Ford has been operating in the Red Sea precisely to protect overhead that pipeline that Eric was just talking about.
So we are covering down on that threat while still being able to launch strikes into Iran from the Red Sea.
Before we go to CENCOM, the president said it in kind of a throwaway line last night on Air Force One when he's coming back from Mar-Lago to the Imperial capital.
He said, look, it's not really, you could make an argument that it's not really our fight in these other nations.
I mean, this is what gets me.
47 years ago, I was over there.
In the 80s, my kid brother was on one of those frigates.
You tell us we don't have anymore.
My daughter was there at the 101st in Iraq.
We're over there all the time.
And to be brutally frank, it ain't our fight.
You know, keeping the Red Sea open with a thing is fine, but this is what I argued with one last summer when we were there taking incoming from the Houdies, Captain.
Where is the Royal Navy?
Where are the French?
Where are our NATO partners?
Because we're keeping Suez Canal open.
And I think, correct me if I'm wrong, 90% of what goes through the Suez Canal is into Europe.
And I realize we have, as Frid Saqqara said, who kind of channeled Captain Finnell about the main thing being the main thing.
The United States has been the anchor of this economic and national security world order.
But this is one of the problems America First has with this: it's all the burden, all those kids out there on the Gerald R. Ford and all the combatants around them and the fast attack submarines around them and all the air wings and all that are American kids.
And I don't see French kids.
I don't see British kids.
I just don't see it.
And the question people are going to ask, particularly when the $2 billion a day cost is really accounted for, they're going to sit there and go, what are we doing again?
I mean, don't we have Venezuela?
Don't we have Guyana?
We have the Gulf of America.
We have Texas.
We have all the, we have 10x oil resources here in the hemispheric defense of President Trump's new strategy.
Shouldn't we be focused on the Arctic and Greenland and Latin America and sweeping the Chinese Communist Party out of the Caribbean and not wasting our blood and our treasure over in another Middle Eastern war, sir?
I spent four and a half months in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia in 1994.
I've deployed to the Gulf, but the second half of my career was in the Pacific for almost 20 years.
And I was the guy that was banging the drum saying, how come we're stuck over there?
So I want us to get out of there.
But right now, we are in the middle of this fight.
And Eric said, we have to pound them into the dirt.
I think we can do it in a way that we don't kill innocent civilians and violate the law of armed conflict.
That's not what we're about as Americans.
But we can do what he said.
I think that's the president's plan.
We have to stay steady on the wheel.
I know there's flack coming at us from the press every day on every special thing, but we have to keep doing what we said we're going to do.
We have a targeting plan.
We have a strategy.
Those guys who do targeting work, I was a targeteer.
They have good intelligence.
Yeah, mistakes happen, but they know how to Rheostat this to make sure that we declaw and defang the Iranian regime and put max pressure onto them to where they're either going to collapse or their people are going to throw them out.
I'm going to try to channel my inner kid rock here as much as I can.
So yeah, the state AGs are continuing this case and they're in court right now, actually restarting the trial.
But I think just to walk us back a few steps here, you know, the place to start, I think, really is this trove of court documents that were released last week.
And what those court documents showed, which Live Nation tried really hard to keep under seal and the judge ordered to be released, they're private chat logs of Ticketmaster Live Nation executives who are talking amongst themselves about the way that they set prices and fees on fans for live entertainment shows at their venues.
And the language they use, I think, here is pretty revealing.
They say, these are direct quotes, that we gouge them on prices.
We're robbing them blind, baby.
That's what we do.
These people are so stupid, I almost feel bad taking advantage of them.
I mean, this is them in their own words describing their business, and that's really the core of this case here.
The Justice Department was suing Live Nation for holding an illegal monopoly, rooting out competition, and then raising prices on consumers.
But Luke, over years, these guys had a plan, and that plan was to take venues and roll up all these little venues that on their own couldn't really make it and conglomerate that and make sure you had economies of scale and hopefully pass that on to the consumer.
And then they bought, I guess, all the ticketing services and they had a fully vertically integrated company, right?
Soup to nuts that they then could have performers and performers have one-stop shop and get tickets.
So had all these efficiencies of scale, which Wall Street talks about all the time.
What's the problem with that?
Live Nation had a plan and they went about it over a decade, maybe more than a decade, just to hammer this home to get to economies of scale.
I mean, so this all starts a decade plus ago when Live Nation, which was on the promotion music venue, artist management side, merged with Ticketmaster, both of which were already monopolies in their respective markets.
And that deal was cleared through by the Obama administration.
They gave them a green light with a pretty weak consent decree and posed some modest restrictions that Live Nation, Ticketmaster combined, then ran roughshod over for the next decade.
And, you know, I think really sort of the core here of the issue is when you have a vertically integrated entity like this, they sit in the middle between fans and the artists, you know, at these at the venues that they go to see shows at, right?
And the cornerstone of that monopoly are these exclusive contracts that Live Nation really sort of forces onto venues.
And this is a key site of coercion by the company.
So they're raising prices through these exclusive contracts on consumers.
Those are all those servicing fees, processing fees that you see at the end of your ticket.
Sometimes they can jack up prices as much as 80%.
They're taking money away from the venues as well, and the promoters were putting on the shows.
And then they can dictate to artists as well what their tour schedule looks like and what their pay is.
If you're a venue, okay, and you want to go against Live Nation, they cut you out from the artist.
You're an artist and you want to do ticketing, they cut you out from their venues.
Okay, why you might ask in a time of war when we have American sailors, airmen, Marines, Army personnel in harm's way in a very dangerous part of the world that I would argue maybe we shouldn't be over, but that's the topic for a different day.
Why are we worried about music concerts and entertainment?
Here's the reason.
This is emblematic of monopolistic power in this country.
As I've said many, many times, during the Obama administration, that's when the oligarchs of really social media and the tech bros you see today were really created.
And what's supposed to be the most progressive administration in history, what they allowed to happen.
And we are supposed to be in the business of deconstructing that monopolistic power.
And guess what?
It's maybe not going totally as planned.
That's why Live Nation is so important.
Live Nation cuts to the heart of what monopolistic power entails.
Now, their original plan was to have vertical integration.
Then they had a merger with Ticketmaster, and they really had vertical integration.
Soup to nuts.
So, Luke, here's what you did a good job explaining how we got here.
But the Justice Department did come up.
They went to trial.
The Justice Department, which happens in the trial, came back and said, Hey, look, we've reached a settlement.
Is that settlement not good enough for people that are neo-Brandeisians like myself that believe this connection of private and state power is kind of a takeoff on the Chinese Communist Party's business model and not the entrepreneurial finance and capitalism of the United States, sir?
I mean, I think there's a really strong case here that the settlement was not nearly strong enough.
And that also is why a whole collection of state attorney generals from California to Texas, Ken Paxton, are continuing this case in court right now.
So here's what happened last week.
As you mentioned, the trial had already started.
It was ongoing for a week.
And at the very end of that week is when the reporting indicates there was a settlement that was reached.
And I was actually in court on Monday when the news broke about this.
And it was kind of pandemonium in the courthouse.
I usually try to stay away from the courts, but I was there that day, right?
And so the DOJ and Live Nation come into court and they hand in the settlement terms to the judge.
And the judge looks at the date.
And the date on those settlement terms had been on the Friday of the prior week when they were still in court arguing their case and had had meetings with the judge and there was no settlement deal that had been mentioned at the time.
And the judge is irate.
He reprimands both sides and he asked the DOJ counsel how this happened.
And the DOJ counsel says to the judge, has to say in open court, I'm seeing these settlement terms for the first time as you are.
So what does that tell us?
You know, this is the counsel who knows the case intimately the best.
He was not part of putting together that settlement package.
It was done by the higher-ups at DOJ, and it was also done by members of the White House, as reporting has indicated.
And, you know, I think this is one aspect that would kind of undermine the case that this is really the best settlement deal.
It's $280 million in damages that Live Nation has to pay.
That may sound like a lot of money.
That's equivalent to the amount of revenue that the company brings in in less than a week.
So, I mean, a drop in the bucket might be generous as a way of describing it.
There's a whole set of other kinds of restrictions.
They're called behavioral remedies and antitrust speak that the company has to follow pretty much as a condition for being able to keep on and maintain this monopoly that they hold.
And, you know, there's cosmetically some attempts in this settlement to try to do that.
There's sort of a cap on some of the fees they can charge.
You know, they have to, the Live Nation has to sell off some of the venues they control.
There's efforts to try to open up competition.
But again, I think the reason to one, you know, kind of argue that this is not adequate and that it may not even be followed is that it is basically identical in many ways to the aims of previous consent decrees that the government has imposed on Live Nation and allowed it to keep this monopoly.
And they have not been adequate at all.
Live Nation keeps, you know, completely violating these as the government has tried to update these consent decrees that go back to the Obama administration.
And, you know, I think you have to look here at the political influence operation that Live Nation has run for the past year.
And it culminated in the ousting of Gail Slater, who was the previous antitrust chief at the Department of Justice.
And she was much more keen on either continuing this case or it seems at least pushing for a stronger settlement.
And she was pushed aside.
And I think the fact that this Justice Department has now settled this case really kind of vindicates many of the critics of this department administration that they are amenable to outside corporate influence.
The state AGs have hired someone who's described as one of the top antitrust litigators, right?
But the drawback of state AGs is they're, you know, they don't have quite as much staff to really beef up the case as the Department of Justice does, which is really well financed.
But they're continuing the case as was planned during the whole first week.
We heard from a number of owners of venues about the ways that Live Nation tried to retaliate against them if they ever tried to get a better deal with a competitor ticket company.
Live Nation said, you don't want to do this, okay?
Our artists, you know, Billie Eilish, whoever they represent, they're not going to your venues anymore.
Yeah, listen, people are very nervous on the Republican and the Democratic side.
And I think the reason why is that when we had similar revelations in 2024 in Great Britain, that Great Britain's voter registration databases had been hacked by China, it created a national scandal, an outrage.
There were special blue ribbon commissions.
There were serious matters.
The United States has known of similar problems of China infiltrations of our voter data going back to 2020, and they've done nothing about it.
They have kept it a secret.
And I think that that is what the goal here is, to come up with any narrative to diminish what we're going to show.
Now, I've yet to get the documents from the Trump White House or the Trump intelligence agencies, but remarkably, I've been able to get good documents from Biden-era intelligence officials.
They've been more cooperative in trying to get the truth out about China's infiltrations of our voter databases.
And tomorrow, I suspect part of the reason the intel agencies don't want this out is they don't want to have to talk about it tomorrow at the oversight hearings that begin for the national security apparatus.
I don't think we're going to be able to let them do that.
I think tomorrow we're going to put out our first story from documents we got from Biden-era officials that will show that there were infiltrations of the voter data in 2020 by China, and we've all been kept in the dark.
And by the way, we're going to show people quotes from our own intelligence officials saying how dangerous it would be if Russia had gotten into voter data.
But apparently, if Russia does it, it's a bad thing.
If China does it, apparently we just keep mum about it.
Tomorrow, we're going to let people see what we've gathered to date.
Sadly, we don't have a significant amount of transparency from the Trump intel agencies or the Trump White House yet.
I hope that changes before we go tomorrow.
But we hit the go button tomorrow and people will get to see exactly what our government has been sitting on for nearly six years.
In fact, six years ago this month when they first detected it.
Are you telling me that all the work everybody's done to get to the place of hitting the button tomorrow, there's still resistance inside intelligence committees still fighting you guys about the release tomorrow?
The most cooperative people have been Biden-era intelligence officials who were amused that this data was never put out by the Trump administration one in 2020, so the first Trump administration, and who understand how important the issue is because they were concerned when Great Britain's voter data was pierced in 2024.
They've always been amused by it.
So, yeah, I got more help from the Biden folks than the Trump folks right now.
That's not the president.
The president is clearly dedicated to wanting to get this information out.
By the way, he ordered some of this information be declassified.
It never did.
And so we'll see what happens.
I'm hoping that sometime in the next 24 hours, the Trump Intel people will come along for the ride.
If not, they'll get to write what we have and then the pressure will grow on them to tell the American people what they've known for six years.
John, I know you got to bounce, but I just want to, if you can hold through the break for a couple of minutes, there's a couple more Maricopa in Georgia.
And we got Clida and Jenny Beth in a press conference coming with the president.
A lot going on.
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Yeah, that's today, this morning, we put out the video that backs up what the Congressional Observers said they saw in November 2024.
By the way, a time when Donald Trump actually won the election, Donald Trump's still worried about election integrity, even when he wins a state.
That's why the FBI is looking at it.
You see, is it looks according to the video to have live ballots being processed off-site away from the Maricopa County election center where the normal observers are, and there appears to be blank ballots.
That's certainly what the congressional observers are saying in the videotape.
The Democrat comes out saying, Boy, that was scary.
Even the Democrat, who's an observer, could not believe what they witnessed here.
That video is now up.
People can see it.
It's part of the reason why they went and asked for the beginning of what's going to be several requests for Maricopa County election records 2020 to 2024.
So FBI is working on that.
Georgia, the FBI got its data.
It's done its own analysis.
Remember what the FBI is looking at there: whether Fulton County officials intentionally did not follow state law, which would become a violation of federal law when it comes to administering elections.
They believe they have the evidence to make a determination on that.
Now, that doesn't mean there aren't other issues that need to be litigated there.
There's plenty of good reasons to keep looking at that.
But the FBI believes it has the evidence it needs to make a good determination about whether Fulton County intentionally didn't follow election law.
And we should see some resolution in that in the next few weeks.
No, I mean, I just know that there have been, there have been public filings because the clerk said that there were so many exact here the exact number of boxes, but when they went to get the boxes and when they retrieved the box seized all of the boxes, that they are missing about a little over, I think, over 50 boxes of records that are supposed to be there.
And now they're trying to sort out, were they ever there?
Was it a miscount?
I mean, you never know with Fulton County.
It's just a colossal nightmare because they don't do things the way you're supposed to be able to do it.
The State Board of Elections taking over Fulton County.
You know, one of the things that has happened is that the, you know, the judge did order in December that the State Board of Elections was entitled to receive all the ballots and all the materials.
And then the FBI came in and subpoenaed with the search warrant and seized all of them.
So the State Board of Elections still hasn't gotten any of the records that the judge said the board was entitled to receive.
So I think we're pretty far away from a moment when there would be any kind of resolution that would put Fulton County under the supervision of the State Board of Elections.
That's pretty far down the road.
Still remember we're.
We're now in mediation, if you can believe that um between uh, Fulton County, the court clerk and the Department OF Justice as to because Fulton County, uh and the commissioners and now the clerk court clerk have filed suit that's the suit with Abby Lowell and Normizing, and all of them demanding that all of the things that were, all the materials and ballots that were seized in january, be returned.
And they're in mediation.
A former retired Georgia Supreme Court justice has been named the mediator.
And now there's to be mediating whether or not anything's going to be returned.
And if so, whether or not the Department of Justice can retain copies.
The one big thing that we have to worry about is we want all of the originals of the absentee ballots.
That's a big concern because there are, that's the only way we're going to know about the pristine ballots that were supposedly absentee ballots, but which were never folded.
So, Jenny Beth, first things first, we've got parallel paths.
We've got Maricopa County now.
We've got Fulton County.
We're hopefully getting to the heart of it.
Of course, a huge article in Politico today that says anybody that mentioned, and this is from Republican establishment, anybody that mentions the 2020 election is just looking backwards and it's going to hurt our chances in the midterms.
Nothing could be farther from the truth.
But we're coming to a seminal moment of this movement, the direction of the country.
That's this fight over the Save America Act.
Now, I understand it's been moved to Wednesday now because of logistics reasons, I'm told.
Just go through what you did.
And you and Cleta talked over the weekend.
And we get Cleta back here in a second about exactly what we're going to do about making sure that this audience and all grassroots members and all of the Trump mega base are making sure their voices is heard as we go through this historic evolution to attempt to pass the Save America Act and make it into law and have President Trump sign it, ma'am.
When it comes to calls to action, sometimes you have to give carrots to the politicians and sometimes you have to give figurative sticks to them.
And I learned this from Cleta back in 2010.
And right now, the Senator Thune is doing what we have asked.
And the Republicans, if they actually all do what we think they're going to do and vote to bring this bill to the floor, to the motion to proceed to bring it to the floor, that's doing what we've been asking for the last several weeks.
And so if that happens and it looks like it's going to, once the debate opens, we've got to make sure that we are thanking the Republican side, thanking them for bringing it to the floor and doing everything we can to keep them talking about the bill and convince them that we want it to pass and final passage.
Then the figurative sticks have to change from being focused on Republican side doing what we want over to the Democrat side and urging the Democrats to do what 65% of Americans want, which is to pass the Save America Act.
84% of Americans want only Americans voting American citizens voting in American elections.
And we've got to make sure that they understand that if they vote against this bill, they are voting against the not just majority, but super majority of the citizens in this country and the super majority of the constituency that they represent.
So our figurative sticks have to be focused on the Democrat side.
And then on the Republican side, we just have to keep them debating the bill and keep them working to try to get Democrats on board with us.
I think the longer that it goes on, the better it is for the if it just happens in a day and it's done, no one will even know that it happened, especially in this age of viral things happening on TikTok every five seconds.
So it takes a while for a sustained debate to permeate the American consciousness, for the media to talk about it, for Americans to understand what's actually happening on Capitol Hill.
So it needs to last for a while.
Now, it is possible in the middle of this that they could temporarily close it and essentially set it aside if there is a deal that is worked out with DHS funding and bring that up and get DHS funded and then go back to and reopen the Save America Act.
So if that happens, people should not be upset.
We just need to be prepared that that could happen.
And then we have to make sure it opens back, which I think that it will.
But it's going to be, it should be the rest of this week.
It should go into next week.
And then they hit a recess period.
So we'll see how far it goes after next week.
But how far it goes and how determined the Republicans are depends on how active and vocal we are in calling their offices and thanking them and making sure that they actually get this bill passed.
Cleta, there's also going up on Twitter, a Twitter about Thune has moved this to Wednesday to ensure that Cornyn, I guess, is locked in for the U.S. Senate.
Can you just walk us through what's actually happening?
Well, my understanding, going back to Saturday, was that they were shooting to have this bill on the floor tomorrow for Thune to take the floor tomorrow with it.
One of the things that they've done is that they have gone back to the White House.
You know, the president has been pretty insistent upon adding some things to the bill that came over from the House, which creates another set of requirements.
It couldn't just pass the Senate and go back and go directly to the president's desk.
And so in adding those things, the president has wanted, which is to address the problem of universal vote by mail.
And also, you know, he wants to get rid of transgender surgeries on minors and he wants to get rid of men and women's sports.
So they've agreed to put those in.
And so it's just taking some time.
It always takes a little bit longer to get all these things drafted than you think it's going to take.
Hang on, you're breaking some news because I've been a guy keeps saying, Hey, the president, and I love what he wants to put in, but it's not in the House bill.
So it's going to make this even more cumbersome.
You're saying the White House dug in and the Senate's actually drafting language.
So what we will be debating will have restrictions on mail-in ballots, which I think is smart, very smart.
It has to be done because I'm not a machine guy.
I'm a mail-in ballot.
That's how they stole it.
You're also saying he's going to add the no men and women sports and the transgender surgeries are going to be in the Senate side.
The White House told them that they have to have that.
I think the president has been very adamant and very vocal and very public about that.
So, you know, and he's not deviated from that.
So I think that they're realizing that he's got the microphone and the microphone and that they need to try to do that.
So my understanding is that that's what they're working on: negotiating all of that with the White House.
And I thought that it might cost us some yes votes on the bill, but I'm told that that's not true.
So we'll see.
I think it's logistics.
I think in this case, it is the logistics of trying to finalize all of that and get that agreed to, you know, because then you start having to agree to specific language.
So my understanding is that that was going to take a little time.
My understanding is that Senator Thun will recognize Senator Lee.
Senator Lee will describe the bill.
Senator Thun will then offer a series of motions that honestly, they're just indecipherable to me as a non, I'm not a Senate rules guru.
Lord, I don't, I hope I don't ever, I already have learned too much about the Senate rules to any sane person would want to know.
But that then Senator Thune will offer a series of procedural motions that will put the bill on the floor of the Senate with a simple majority vote to proceed.
And that then they will be on the bill.
There will be amendments offered.
There will be debate.
There will be discussion.
And as Jenny Beth said, they may have to go off the bill and then come back to it.
Why they don't want to call that a filibuster, I don't know.
But apparently, this is something that they've really are now looking to Senator Lee and his legislative director, who's quite terrific, and looking to them for guidance.
I have to tell everybody one of the things that's really important to remember is that this is a sea change from where John Thune was last Tuesday.
Last Tuesday, he announced to the conference and he told the press he was just kind of done with this.
We were all paid influencers and he wasn't paying any attention.
And honestly, what happened over the ensuing 24 hours was beautiful to behold because people all over the country hammered the United States Senate.
They called, they wrote emails, they called their state offices.
People just organically were outraged, absolutely outraged.
And within 24 hours, they were saying, oh, well, maybe we better pay attention to this.
And the problem, here's the problem.
They've never used the filibuster in this way.
Not in decades, not since 1964 when the Civil Rights Act passed.
So they're not used to legislating.
I want to say that again.
The United States Senate is not used to legislating.
Nothing ever goes to the floor unless there's an agreement in advance.
They know exactly what's going to happen.
And so this is uncharted territory for anyone who's currently serving in the United States Senate.
So, you know, if I had been in the Senate, I would have started making some changes to overcome some rulings of the parliamentarian that exists.
These rulings make it impossible to actually have the filibuster and have it end.
That's what they couldn't figure out because if you start, how do you end it?
So without, how do you get to the, at the end of the filibuster?
So I think that that's what they're trying to do is avoid getting into a circumstance where they can't get out of without 60 votes.
And that's what they're trying to do.
It's not easy, but you know, these people should have done something about these rules a long time ago.
But they didn't want to because this is how they keep control.
Jenny Beth, is this just because you've been at this a while and I know a lot of the audience members are ready to go man the ramparts and have, you know, and have President Trump's back and say, hey, this absolutely has got to get done.
President Trump said over and over and over again, we're not going to win the midterms unless you pass this.
Is this performative?
Or do you, in your professional opinion, see a way that this is more than just getting the Cornyns and the Thunes off the hook of President Trump's wrath and that we could actually get the SAVE Act, President Trump's version of it passed in the Senate and sent back to the House for passage and then eventually at some point in time, get it on President Trump's desk for signing and then let all the lawsuits take place that there will be lawsuits.
This will be, if this passes, Trump signs it, we'll be in the Supreme Court on this one sometime before their session ends at the end of June, ma'am.
Remember in 2020, I know the establishment doesn't want us talking about 2020, but remember in 2020, everything just changed right on a dime because of COVID.
And they expanded all the ballots and were mailing them out to everyone on the voter rolls.
And they did that just completely, just so quickly.
If they can do that quickly, they can certainly work to make sure that only American citizens are voting and that we have voter ID quickly.
And it shouldn't be unconstitutional because we just saw five, six years ago that you could change elections in the middle of voting.
In 2020, during the presidential preference primary, I had already voted and then they closed that and they reopened it during the regular primary in Georgia.
And I wound up not having that again on my ballot because I had already voted.
But if they can do that in the middle of an election, they certainly can make sure only American citizens are voting.
Do I think it is performative?
I think it depends on how this process ends.
And no one can answer exactly how it ends.
So here's the way that I keep thinking of it.
Remember back when we were challenging McCarthy to become speaker?
And then ultimately also we changed speakers and we have speaker Mike Johnson now.
During the middle of all of that debate in January of 2022, we didn't know exactly how that was going to end.
We knew it would end.
We didn't know exactly how it would end.
And when they removed McCarthy and we wound up with Speaker Johnson, we also didn't know how that was going to end, but we knew it would end.
What we're doing right now is unchartered for most for the senators who are in the Senate right now, not in terms of American history, but for the ones who are in there right now.
And so it's a little bit different than what we've seen before.
If it requires 60 votes to end the debate, then we have to get Democrats on our side.
Can we do that?
It depends on this audience and other people around the country calling their Democrat senators and saying, you need to vote for this.
This is not partisan.
It's working to get our Democrat friends who agree with us on this issue to say, put aside everything else we disagree on.
But what you're implying in that is that we got to bounce.
What you're implying is that is we can't, we won't get the Senate will not go on this topic to a talking filibuster because a talking filibuster, we don't need any Democrats.
Cleta Mitchell, where do people go to, particularly your twitter feed and all the your sites, to get up to date on what's happening in Georgia, Maricopa County and with this monumental issue that's coming before us on wednesday?
Um, the first, if you want to know what's going on um on a real-time basis, go to at EI Watchdogs.
At EI Watchdogs, and that's the twitter x?
Uh account for Election Integrity Network.
We're also posting things.
We have a lot of resources that we're putting on the Election Integrity Network.org website Election Integrity, Election Integrity Network.org and then you can follow me on twitter uh, at Cleta Mitchell, and I put things up there.
I I posted an explanation on sat, I guess, yesterday morning, trying to explain to people my understanding of what's going to be happening this week.
So the main thing is we need people to be aware, push it out.
You might have to pivot on on a dime, so watch what's going on and take action accordingly, and we'll talk more about our coverage this afternoon about how we're going to cover this wall to wall.
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We're actually also going to go right up to the Charlie Kirk show.
So we're going to be on for a couple more minutes in bonus time.
And here's the reason.
The commander in chief in the president of the United States is about to come to the microphones.
He's going to have a press conference.
Folks, I will tell you, I would think it'd be worth hanging around.
I expect this to be a little contentious.
President Trump really unsheathed the sword on the media over the weekend.
And I think he's had enough of some of the reporting and some of the really the false spin and the false reporting.
We're in a time of war.
We have young Americans in harm's way.
And like I said, as you know, I'm not particularly happy how we got here, but we're here.
And right now we have to win and get everybody home.
And I mean win.
And this has got to be defined now.
He just can't declare victory because we've blown up and degraded their forces.
This situation in the Persian Gulf and the Straits of Ramuz, which, you know, if you look at the mathematics of global oil markets, doesn't really directly affect us, although it is affecting the price of oil, particularly in the United States.
President Trump, and this is why we had Rob Lockwood about Harold Ham.
President Trump had it down to $55 a barrel.
President Trump would like it to get to $40 a barrel.
That's kind of, I think, always been his target.
I believe most people would say $60 is where the oil and gas industry with their lifting costs, but he wants it at $40 a barrel.
That's one of the reasons you got Venezuela.
You have now the biggest, I think, find in the world is in Guiana.
You got the Gulf of America, which they've done a very poor job of extracting that.
Mexico's tons of oil there, if you frack it right.
And of course, the great state of Texas and other parts of the United States of America.
Okay, President Knight, we're about to wrap up here.
The Charlie Kirk show is going to be next.
President of the United States is going to be giving a press conference for his lunch with the Trump Kennedy Center board.
This could be pretty explosive.
You should tune in.
Make sure you go check out Birch Gold.
And when I say explosive, I think it's going to be a lot of turbulence this week, not just in the Senate, but also geopolitically.