Episode 5221: Pentagon Has Sights On Globalist Bankers For Defense Unit; Stopping All Immigration
Steve Bannon and Mike Lindell dissect President Trump's March 2026 Oval Office address, where he blames Democrats for DHS funding cuts and demands allies reimburse the U.S. for Strait of Hormuz security amid Iran's mine warfare. They analyze a new Pentagon unit recruiting Blackstone bankers to manage a $200 billion fund and Chip Roy's Texas campaign against the "Islamic invasion." Lindell details his $50–$80 million election integrity spending, championing the SAVE Act to combat mail-in ballots, while Bannon warns of a $100 trillion U.S. debt crisis threatening the dollar empire. Ultimately, the episode frames these domestic and foreign policy battles as interconnected struggles for national sovereignty against globalist financial and electoral threats. [Automatically generated summary]
Now that you've announced that the U.S. has destroyed all of Iran's mine-laying ships, why can't the U.S. just immediately reopen the Strait of Hormuz?
We have to get people to take their billion-dollar ship and, you know, drive it up.
When Pepe has his big sugar ships coming around and they cost a billion dollars, and we say, I think it's okay now, Pepe, take your ship, drive it through the Strait of Hormuz.
He may say, let me wait a little while, because it takes ship owners and the pay.
You know, these ships are very expensive.
They can cost up to $2 billion.
So they don't want to take a chance that, gee, I think you'll be okay.
They got to know it.
So they don't have to set, you know, we don't know if they even set any minds, but the thought that they may have is enough to keep people from saying we don't need it.
Now, we are pounding that area, that coast, as you know, left side.
We're pounding it, like really pounding it hard.
And Again, they may have no mindset.
We hit every one of their mine droppers.
They call it the mine layers, right?
The ships.
They're pretty sophisticated ships.
Every one of them is gone.
But it only takes one.
So it's a little unfair.
You know, you win a war, but they have no right to be doing what they're doing.
But we're hitting them very hard.
And today is a big day where we're pounding a certain area that has very much to do with the strait.
And I think we'll get it going very soon.
In addition, we do have other nations coming in.
You need people to watch and people to see.
We have other nations coming in.
Look what happened.
In the last two weeks, they weren't supposed to go after all these other countries in the Middle East.
Those missiles were set to go after them.
So they hit Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait.
Nobody expected that.
We were shocked.
Some are very enthusiastic and some are less than enthusiastic.
And I assume some will not do it.
I think we have one or two that will not do it that we've been protecting for about 40 years at tens of billions of dollars, Mr. Speaker.
So I'll be reporting that to you in the House and the Senate.
And I'll say, why are we protecting countries that don't protect us?
And I've always felt that was a weakness of NATO.
We were going to protect them.
But I always said when in need, they won't protect us.
Now, this isn't need.
Need would be one of the big boys.
But I will say that we built the greatest military in the world, and we protect people.
And if we need their mind boats or if we need anything, any piece of apparatus that they may have because of a situation that they have, they should be jumping to help us because we've helped them for years stay out of wars.
If the United States is working to secure the Strait of Hormuz for the benefit of other countries like China and our allies aren't yet stepping up to your standard, is the United States getting back to being the world's policeman?
Look, the United States should not be very much involved.
They can on a certain basis.
They've been doing it for a long time.
But I've always said, I said, if you look back years ago, I said, why aren't we being reimbursed?
You know, these are the richest countries in the world.
Why aren't we being reimbursed for maintaining the Hormo Strait?
And why aren't we being reimbursed for that?
I've said that for years.
You can go back.
They reported on it yesterday.
I've been saying a lot of things about the Straits.
Number one, I said it's the one advantage they have, but that's a suicidal advantage because they kill themselves more than they kill the rest of the world.
And there are things you can do with time.
There are other things you can do.
But I think we're going to have the situation straightened out pretty quickly.
And I think we're going to have some good help.
And I think we're going to be disappointed in some nations, too.
Then General Dan Kaine told the President in several briefings that U.S. officials long believed Iran would deploy mines, drones, and missiles to close the Strait.
Quote, Trump acknowledged the risk, these people said, but moved forward, telling his team Tehran would likely capitulate before closing the Strait.
And even if Iran tried, the U.S. military could handle it.
The problem is that there are two other actors here.
So he can say, we don't want to do this anymore, and the Iranians can say, well, then we've won.
Or he could say, we don't want to do this anymore.
And the Israelis would say, well, we're not finished.
So I think the problem for Washington is really how you work with the allies, obviously the Israelis, and to some extent the Gulf states, and try and figure out a way that means you can tamp this down without giving the opportunity for the Iranian regime to say they all chickened out.
Yeah, Monday, 16, March, in our year of our Lord 2026.
You're the first among equals as allies.
The Israelis in the Gulf don't get to go cut their own strategic objectives and keep rolling if you decide it's over.
President Trump makes a very compelling, both in the morning and the afternoon, makes an incredibly compelling argument that it's not our problem.
I mean, he's pretty adamant about, hey, we've been doing this for years.
Nobody's paid us.
We're never paid back.
I think it's a great argument now of reassessing the entire strategic situation in which we find ourselves.
Let's bring in Liz Hoffman, Semaphore Business, and she's editor of Business and Finance and also the host of Compound Interest, the show, the podcast.
Liz, I think we can actually maybe get a solution here on the asymmetric economic and finance warfare we should be fighting every day.
Scott Besson showed us the way somewhat back in January.
You had an exclusive report talking about, I guess it's an economic warfare unit that's being set up in the Department of War, and they're staffing it with some of the most lethal people on earth that would be investment bankers.
Well, you spent time at a former investment bank, so I will leave the characterization to you.
But yes, the Pentagon is out with a head-hunting pitch across Wall Street looking for investment bankers, particularly those who have deep relationships with private equity firms, whose clients are kind of the Blackstones and Kicker's and Carlisles of the world, and trying to get them to come in-house and build like a little investment banking unit that will go out and find deals for the Pentagon to do, to companies to invest in, to take stakes in,
and then help kind of raise the money and marshal some private sector financing around it.
Yeah, the CIA has had a venture firm which, you know, about which we don't know that much for obvious reasons, but you know, for a long time.
And by the way, like people on Wall Street have gone into government for years of both parties.
This one, for whatever reason, in the moment that it's landing into the kinds of deals that it's going to be doing and ultimately who its client is going to be, which is the president of the United States, feels a little more like interestingly coded, I think.
You know, certainly we had a lot of people on Wall Street were in Doge, right?
You know, tapped pretty heavily from particularly Silicon Valley venture tech bankers out in California.
You know, but Gary Cohen went into the first Trump administration.
You know, there are people who you'll remember from your days at Goldman, you know, for whom it was like a real act of public service.
And this is being pitched really as kind of a once-in-a-career opportunity.
You know, the documents that I'd seen dangle, you know, correctly that this is $200 billion over the remainder of President Trump's term.
And they kind of say, this is exactly, this is more money than you will deploy in your entire career, which is correct.
It's not totally obvious to me where the money is coming from.
This may be from the NDAA, from the military budget process.
The Trump administration also, mostly in the Commerce Department and some other places, thinks it's going to get a couple hundred billion dollars, maybe a trillion dollars through these foreign trade deals to invest.
And I think if you squint at it and kind of put the pieces together, it looks a little bit like the sovereign wealth fund that the president has said that he wants.
I mean, look, we've had real industrial policy, you know, for five or six years now, going back to the CHIPS Act, the Biden administration, and it has become a bipartisan thing, this idea, as unpopular as the government picking winners and losers maybe.
And, you know, we could all go back and remember what an albatross Cylindra was for the Obama administration.
It has become kind of bipartisan policy that we should be more thoughtful about how we're investing.
Liz, some people, you know, think that this particular, you know, we've now announced, I think the president's confirmed we're probably not going to go for a state visit to China for some time.
But a lot of people are concerned that although we brought them into the World Trade Organization and we gave them a favorite nation status, and at one time there was this big thought that they would be the manufacturing and we would bring them in with the Lighthizer deal in May of 2019.
They would fold into the economic, the economic order.
Of course, they tore that up and spit in our face.
But a lot of people are quite concerned that instead of them becoming a liberal democracy and Jeffersonian Democrats, that their form of state capitalism, we are starting to resemble that.
And one of the ways we resemble that is using the Pentagon in a trillion-dollar budget as our industrial policy.
And that's why something like this makes people quite nervous.
And the overall $7.5 trillion, it doesn't seem that big a deal.
But you put it in perspective is that when they're trying to recruit people, they're telling them you'll never have in your life the ability to deploy $200 billion of capital in a couple of years.
Has this industrial policy, do you think, looking at it from a business reporter, finance reporter, has it worked out for us?
You know, take, for example, the investment in Intel, right?
When that popped, I remember thinking like, oh, guys, I don't know.
But it did kind of what it was supposed to do, I think, which is, you know, private money came in behind it.
It sort of put a floor under the price.
It was a vote of confidence in the CEO.
It was in a tough spot.
And a lot of private money followed and stocks done well.
Still real questions over their ability to manufacture really important chips domestically.
The question is, like, what are they doing, right?
If they're giving money to things that the private markets couldn't otherwise finance, like, okay, the government is typically a lender of last resort, or how you think of it.
It could be an investor of last resort.
But then you worry, like, okay, is this just adverse selection?
Or if there are deals that are good or promising technologies, the market would do that.
There's a lot of money floating around out there.
So then it's like, okay, is it trying to get a return for the taxpayer, right?
If we're going to be funding all of these things through the budget process, is it, you know, we were going to give a lot of money to Intel through the CHIPS Act and the Trump administration said, well, actually, we want some stock in exchange for that.
I don't think as a taxpayer, I'm going to get my cut of that in any way, but that's an alternative.
But then the real question is, are they trying to influence day-to-day operations?
And I think, you know, the Trump administration between the Department of Defense and Department of Commerce probably stakes in like 12 or 15 companies now.
And my understanding is they haven't really meddled that much.
They've done a little meddling at U.S. Steel, where they have that kind of actually no economic interest, but this golden share, this kind of vote in the boardroom.
Is it going to be telling Intel what chips to make?
If it's buying, you know, you could imagine it's going to buy some whatever industrial coolant from Blackstone that turns out is like really critical because it's really efficient at cooling data centers, which is obviously being an AI that the Trump administration cares a lot about.
Is it just providing a long-term purchase agreement for that company that can now go out and finance itself in the market?
That's like pretty fine and basic.
Is it going to say you have to make this thing here and here's, you know, he's talked a lot about invoking the Defense Production Act and other and other situations.
And really, by the way, unrelated has massively lit a fire under defense contractors, right?
So what happens if the way that they're running their business doesn't pass mustard?
The six CEOs came in the White House, I think, Friday or Friday a week and got a come around.
And I think they were implied, hey, here's the defense of production.
Either you guys step up or we're going to have to put Peter Navarro in charge.
I think they got a focus.
Intel is not small.
It's 10%.
I'll talk later.
The audience understands.
I think the government shouldn't hold it.
I think the government should distribute all those shares to taxpayers immediately.
Last question.
We're now in the asymmetric phase.
The center of gravity of the war in Iran is not Tehran, but it's really the Persian Gulf with our allies.
Oil, the Straits of Hormuz, the Strait of Hormuz was when the Navy is going to be able to keep it open.
Our Allied Navy is going to help us.
But in asymmetric warfare, it's about economics.
You got all the cash sitting in Dubai in the banks.
You've got cash.
They're monetizing the oil through the Chinese.
I mean, there's so many things you can do.
Do you see this as really a cover to get some of the smartest, best and the brightest, like the CIA did after World War II and get them into the Department of War as a economic warfare unit?
I've never been as squeamish about the revolving door as some other people.
And it's important to remember that it revolves both ways, right?
If you're going to care about what people do when they leave government, then the flip side of that is sometimes there's really smart people in the private sector and we should get the benefit of their expertise in the public sector.
And one way to do that is to incentivize them to spend.
And by the way, this pitch is like, it was pitched explicitly.
This is not a career change.
Just come for two or three years, serve your country, do a lot of interesting stuff, make a lot of connections that you can then go monetize when you leave.
Look, the U.S. government, the U.S. is obviously very good at fighting kinetic wars.
We've learned that repeatedly.
But it has just the deepest and most liquid capital markets in the world.
And, you know, the kind of fracturing of the global order over the last couple of years has balkanized the global economy, but has made the U.S. more central.
I mean, the capital markets here are just incredibly, incredibly powerful.
And, you know, if you're looking around for ways to press your advantage, like that's an obvious one.
The flip side of that is we're really, you know, reliant on global energy flows.
And there's been a lot of talk about, well, we are energy independent in the U.S. Why is gas more expensive if we're not importing?
And the answer is that it's a global market.
That is one place that just cannot be bullied.
And so we're going to have to deal with the consequences of that.
But we have a lot of money to invest.
The U.S. relative to other economies actually invests it relatively efficiently.
We get a fair amount of GDP boost for our investment dollars.
And that exuberance on Wall Street, exactly the companies whose clients, you know, the Pentagon now wants the bankers to hire, their exuberance, their willingness to take risks, it gets us in trouble, but it is also the reason that, for example, we bounce back faster from 2008 and from COVID than Europe did, because they rely on these banks that are sort of commercial banks, very stodgy.
They don't have a lot of that capital markets investment DNA.
And it helps us pull our way out of recessions faster.
And those banks are all either have been state-owned or just recently went public or have a history of being economic bureaucrats instead of capital markets.
This is quite complicated, not just this war, but what comes after.
How do we get to the finish line and what comes after?
More on that.
In the six o'clock hour, Joe Allen's going to join me about artificial intelligence.
Navidia announced, I think, a trillion dollars of backlog on high-end chips for the next two years.
That ought to be a wake-up call to people.
And President Trump's there today complaining about, I mean, he was bringing up the facts, but complaining about AI in this war, what some of the images coming out of the phony images coming out of Iraq.
Okay, we're about to head into a quite complicated period over this week, maybe hopefully the next couple of weeks in the Senate.
One of the quarterbacks of all this, particularly in related to the Constitution and customs and traditions of the Hill, is now running in a runoff for the Attorney Generalship of the Great State of Texas.
Chip Roy joins us.
Chip, just take a second.
I'm going to hold you through the break, but just take a second.
You're very close to Mike Lee.
You and Andy Biggs, a handful of you guys are really the strict constitutionalists.
This is why you were on rules in the revolt against McCarthy.
Where do we stand on this thing?
How can you see from the House?
How can you see this thing playing out over the next couple of days?
Although obviously it's going to be in the Senate, but you guys are either going to get a bill that comes back to you marked up or a bill that they sign off on your bill, or nothing happens, sir.
Well, first of all, yeah, partnering with some of my best friends in Washington on this deal, Mike Lee, obviously in the Senate, Cleta Mitchell, who you know well, who appears on this show regularly.
We've been partnering to advance the cause of the Save Act and then ultimately the Save America Act once we added to it voter ID.
Obviously, the president, I think, showing his great political instincts, wanted to try to package it in a more robust version, including the mail-in ballots, which we all support, and the issues involving boys being in girls' bathrooms or playing in girls' sports and transgender issues.
So, what you're going to see in the Senate is taking our Save America Act, which we passed, taking it over to the Senate.
We passed it in a vehicle that makes it faster.
That is, it avoids the motion to proceed closure vote.
It's not technically a motion to proceed when you're talking about a message, but that's nerd speak.
Bottom line is to get on the bill, you can do it with a majority vote, not 60.
We designed that in the House.
This has all taken a long time to get structured.
So, you ask what's going to happen.
It depends on the fortitude of senators to stay on the bill.
So, by proceeding to it, moving to this message, we're now going to be debating the topic.
That's a good thing.
That is a step forward.
We're going to have amendments to address the other issues that we want to address: bathroom sports and mail-in ballots and transgender surgeries.
So, we'll process those amendments with a full tree.
That's all, again, nerd speak to say we will move some of those other issues.
And then, as this unfolds, we've got to keep the heat up and we've got to keep the heat, keep the heat up on Democrats, but also on the weak Republicans who have been saying they don't support it.
We're talking about McConnell, Murkowski, Tillis, wavering, and we're right on that cusp of 50 votes.
The American people have to speak out loudly.
If we do that, then the trick is to stay on the bill.
You don't move off the bill until someone, the leader, puts a motion to proceed to something else on the floor.
We should say, Don't do that.
Stay on that bill.
And I'm with my colleagues in the House.
We're trying to put pressure in the House to say we're not going to move any other Senate priorities.
We're not going to move anything else.
Yeah, we process DHS funding, but we got to stay on the bill.
Yeah, Steve, I could have stayed in Congress and continued the fight up there as one 435th of one half of one-third of the federal government, but there's a limit to what you can do.
As an executive in the state of Texas, you can lead.
And frankly, right now, Texas needs leadership to carry us forward.
We're under attack.
We're under assault by radical leftists, Marxists, by the Wren Collective, by all of the radical leftists in the Soros funding that are putting criminals on our streets.
But most importantly of all, the advance of Islam in the state of Texas.
With all due respect to Mays, I have no idea what he said on your show.
I wouldn't have seen it, but he's never been a lawyer.
He's never practiced.
He's never prosecuted a bad guy.
He's never been in court.
He's never stood before a judge.
He's never done a damn thing, Steve.
Literally nothing, except to use his granddaddy's money to buy power, to buy a seat, to pay to become a state rep, to pay to become a state senator.
And frankly, I've devoted my entire life to the cause of freedom, whether it was as Ted Cruz's chief of staff, as a lawyer for Rick Perry, as the first assistant attorney general, where I was filing important matters in court as a federal prosecutor, where I was putting bad guys in jail, and now in Congress, where I've been leading the fight on every single issue.
And you know it, right, with respect to the SAVE Act, spending, dealing with the border issue, HR2, leading the fight on every single front.
Mays takes his granddaddy's money, goes on TV, and spreads lies, says that I'm saddling up the transgender lobby because I dare to try to improve a bill to try to figure out how to get it through the Senate and the log jam that it is so that we could actually get something done to stop these ridiculous and horrific transgender procedures.
The bottom line is we need an actual proven fighter who will stand up and fight.
And by the way, somebody who's independently minded, somebody who will stand up and do the right thing.
And I think I've proven that over and over again.
And if we do not win the battle of Islam, if we don't have a smart constitutional lawyer who can stand up and explain how this is a political ideology, that this is not a religion, this is not something that can hide behind the First Amendment.
This is the Muslim Brotherhood laying out a precise plan to attack our state and our country.
And they're doing it.
And we're not doing anything about it.
And by the way, where the hell has Mays Middleton been?
As a state senator and state rep?
What has he done in Austin to do anything to stop the continuation and the advancement of all of this?
The fact is, I've been throwing my body in front of the train in Washington last year in the big beautiful bill trying to stop expansion of the SIV Afghani program, trying to stop the increase of legal immigration while also trying to halt illegal immigration.
And we need a proven fighter who can stand up for attorney general, get into court, defend Texas, go on offense.
And if we're in the minority in the House and the Senate after this fall, and if, God forbid, we have a Democrat in the White House in 29, Texas will lead the Western, the defense of Western civilization.
And you got to have somebody with a proven pedigree to do it, not somebody who needs on-the-job training.
You've seen this being a member of the Freedom Caucus, you've seen this over and over again in Washington trying to move things about the established order, the financial and business interests, the business community chamber commerce, things like that.
You know, and I would submit that in Ken Paxon's reign as attorney general, he was fighting the business community and the vested interests as much as he was fighting radical Democrats.
And he was fighting radical Democrats in the Biden regime every day.
Both as I, as we went down, it kind of shifted the show down to Texas.
I am stunned at how advanced this Islamic invasion of Texas, and that's why I'm so proud of the Prop 10.
It is so much farther advanced.
We've had Peto McAvaney come in from London a couple of times.
He says, hey, in the same timeframe of how they came to London, it's much more advanced in Texas.
And one of the reasons is people are making a lot of money on whether it's halal food or whether it's real estate deals that they're paying a premium.
As attorney general, I mean, it's just not terrorist groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE, which obviously you and the governor are going to have to figure out how to really, you know, implement them being terrorist organizations, what you're going to do.
It's also now a business community that's making an awful lot of money and sees this as a whole new segment for the economy.
How do you intend to take that on?
If you really want to stop this invasion and then reverse it, you're going to have to do that.
So, as attorney general, you'll be the lead sled dog.
Yeah, first of all, you get out publicly and you say it.
I've done that and I've done it many times over.
In fact, CARE has been protesting my office because I've led legislation to take away their tax status.
I led legislation to vet people for Sharia law.
But you got to be willing to stand up and say it.
And I did that on the House floor two years ago and farther back than that.
In fact, the last substantive conversation I had with Charlie Kirk was on this very topic.
But the biggest thing you could do as Attorney General, besides use the bully pulpit to make sure everybody's aware of it, is to use your power to open the books of these nonprofits and go look at the, I believe, 600 organizations operating in Texas.
Amy Meck, our good friend who runs Rare.
Amy is a warrior for freedom, a patriot out there calling out all of the advancement of the Islamification of Texas and Sharia law and everything that's happening to undermine Western civilization.
Amy's brilliant.
I had one of her great folks testifying in my committee that I chair the subcommittee of the Constitution that I held a month ago on Sharia law.
I've been leading on this issue for a long time, but you got to have somebody willing to do it and somebody willing to go open up the books, follow the money, figure out where you can cut the head of the snake off, because the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE, those are just two very notorious examples.
There are hundreds of examples of organizations funding this purposeful invasion.
In fact, if you go look at the memo from 1991 of the Muslim Brotherhood, they literally talk about how it is basically a quiet jihad that they're saying that this takeover of North America, of America, of Texas, that that is a quiet jihad that they're called to do.
They are waging war with our way of life.
And we're letting them hide behind the First Amendment.
This isn't about your belief system.
This is about a political ideology designed to uproot, upend, and destroy everything that we hold dear, our Judeo-Christian values, our laws, our Constitution, our declaration to be supplanted with Sharia, Islamic law, and the advancement of Islam in the West.
We must stand athwart it and stop it.
And if your goal is to undermine America, then you're my enemy and you need to be removed.
And the Attorney General of Texas needs to be willing to say it, needs to have a track record of having done it, and then needs to do it.
People talk about Epic City, but as we've been up in north of the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, you have a half a dozen things like this, and maybe not the scale.
How do you intend to stop that?
Is this because you're going to force them into court to open their books and see who's financing it, who's partnering with them?
Because if people think Epic City is one and done, they are wrong.
These things are popping up all over.
Maybe not at the scale of Epic City, but pretty close, sir.
First of all, yes, you have to go after Epic City, but it is to some degree.
I don't want to say it's a shiny object because it's really important, but it's kind of everybody's focus is on that.
The fact is, there's 300 plus mosques and growing in Texas, more being built in Texas every year than any other state in the union.
That's a real problem.
And let's go back to the corporate interest problem.
Honestly, this is what really galls me is the state of Texas now for the better part of two decades, post 9-11.
You know, our country has allowed some 5 million people to come into the United States from majority Muslim countries.
That is a federal issue from an immigration standpoint, for sure.
But let's not ignore the fact that Texas, Texas corporations, Texas government, Texas leaders generally, that Texas was saying, hey, bring all these people in for labor.
We need folks to come in and then do H-1Bs, diversity visas, chain migration.
And all of that was purposeful and it was designed to appease the corporate interests.
That's one of the fundamental problems.
Texas has too many, too much corporate interest coming in trying to buy up our state.
They're buying up our land.
They're buying up our ranches.
They're buying up our cattle.
They're buying up our meat processing.
They're buying up a lot of our businesses.
But they're also trading with, you know, bringing people in who aren't Texans.
And importantly, go back to my opponent for a second.
They're trying to buy elections.
Like my opponent spent $15 million of his own money against me running negative ads saying that I'm the devil and that I'm not nearly strong enough for the state of Texas.
I raised every dollar that I've ever run on.
And, you know, my opponent's been doing this for years, buying the seat.
Texas is not for sale.
Texas should not be for sale.
We need people here who have earned it.
We need businesses here who are Texan.
We need our land to stay with Texans.
We need to stop Islam from marching into our state.
We need to secure the border no matter who's in the White House.
Because you get a Democrat in the White House in 2029.
You better damn well have leadership in the state of Texas who will look to the administration, look to the world and say, not a soul is coming across our river, declared an invasion and do something about it.
And I don't think we moved fast enough under Biden, my orcas.
And God forbid we have a Democrat in 29.
We got to be ready to fight.
And with all due respect to my opponent, he's never had to do a single thing in his life.
You know, we've had two members of the Texas Education Board on the show over last week about these hearings they've had in this effort of the Islamic, some of these Islamic entities, not-for-profits, try to change Texas school books, Texas history and U.S. history.
And of course, you know, Texas because of the printing deals and just how much people think of Texas.
It really, the way Texas education goes in school books changes, I think, 26 states.
And both of them said at the time, hey, the Democrats have 100% lined up with the Islamists.
But he said, also, there's a handful of these middle-of-the-road Republicans that are just afraid to step in the fray.
What are you going to do as Attorney General to let people know, hey, you can't be afraid here.
You've got to step into this fight because we could, folks, Texas is this invasion in Texas is much farther down the road and the media has not covered it all.
And this education, these hearings are going to take place in April and these votes are paramount to turning this thing around.
As attorney general, what are you going to do to let people know that you got their back, that CARE's not going to be, I'll come and sue them and put them in bankruptcy and take them to court?
First of all, you got to expose all of it, every single bit of it.
And that goes back to, of course, not just the nonprofits and the NGOs and exposing the flow of the dollars there and then finding that, finding out where they're in coordination with terrorists and shutting them down, but also tracking and following the dollars that you're talking about.
Thank goodness we've got a comtroller coming in who I think is a warrior for freedom in Don Huffines.
I think as comtroller, he's going to open up the books and look at the details.
But you got to have somebody who's willing to take on the Austin swamp.
For too long, the Austin swamp has had a stranglehold on where the real Texans are.
And we've got to expose all of the money that's flowing.
There is a corruption in the entirety of the education system.
The amount of money that flows to developers to build fancy schools.
And then they cut deals because their dollars are flowing to build the fancy schools.
And then you got to make sure that certain communities are going to be taken care of.
And this is where we get into the issues like you're describing.
And we should not be teaching Islam or advancing Islam.
We shouldn't have schools like Wiley, where you've got burqas and the Quran being passed out.
And you've got to have an attorney general that's going to stand up and defend our laws, fight to make sure we're using the Deceptive Trade Practices Act, fight on constitutional grounds, fight to make sure that our zoning laws are being applied, fight to make sure that we know where the dollars are flowing.
And if they're tied to terrorists, knock their knees out from under them, but also go to the legislature and be a voice as one of the statewide elected office holders, be a voice to say, no more, not on our watch.
We're not going to do this.
And by the way, you've got to have someone who understands the underpinnings of the Constitution, as chairman of the subcommittee of the Constitution, as someone who's been on that House Judiciary Committee now for my time in Congress.
I've got the background to be able to do that, but also the demonstration of the willingness to stand up and fight.
Again, where was everybody two years ago when I went to the floor of the House, I made this pitch, and I told people this is a problem.
And a lot of my colleagues kind of yawned.
Now it's becoming more fashionable for people to jump aboard the train.
And, you know, we founded the Sharia Free America Caucus.
Keith Self and I, he's a great American.
A bunch of my colleagues in the Freedom Caucus, a few not in the Freedom Caucus, have joined that effort.
We're trying to shine the light on it, but we're still only around, I don't know, 55 members.
I don't know what the latest count is, but you know, like a quarter of the Republican Conference.
Where's the rest, right?
I mean, and again, where are they in the legislature?
We need more of that standing up and announcing this to the people of Texas.
And as Attorney General, I would do that, follow the law, defend the Constitution, but stand up and say that Islam is not compatible with the West.
That we're sitting here hoping that the Senate will move forward with an issue that is an 85% issue with voter ID, with citizenships voting, and then even the other things added, mail-in ballots and the other issues like trans and boys and girls' sports.
It's insane.
Like, this is the problem with Republicans.
I don't want to listen to Lisa Makowski babbling about whatever she's saying about Alaska or Tom Tillis crying about whatever he's crying about on his way out of the Senate or Mitch McConnell.
He can barely understand what he's saying.
I'm a big defender of institutions.
And by the way, this is important.
If you think the filibuster should be saved to try to stop bad things in the future, then make them talk.
Because if you keep an artificial fake 60-vote threshold, I promise you the filibuster will be nuked and then we'll end up getting a packed Supreme Court and DC statehood shoved down our throats.
We need to stand up and fight right now, make people speak.
And it's absurd that we're having to pull teeth to get these guys to put it on the floor.
But look, we've made progress through the power of the people, through Scott Presley, through Mike Lee, through Chip Roy, through Steve Bannon, through Cleta Mitchell, and everybody who's been fighting.
Keep it up.
Let's put pressure on the Senate.
Let's drag them there kicking and screaming.
Appreciate the support.
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So I'd love to have you back on either at CPAC or after we'll figure it out to really take maybe an hour, get you on the six o'clock show and break it all down.
But, Chip, thank you so much for joining us here in the world.
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Mike Lindell, I got you here.
We want to talk about deals, but first off, you spent, I don't know, $50, $60, $70, $80 million, something like that, trying to defend this country on election integrity.
You've started so many of the big groups.
You got Matt Meck at the coalition.
You got Steve Stern's going to be on the show tomorrow to talk about their big call that's going to happen on Wednesday.
Just give me a minute as you sit here and we're having to move heaven and earth.
We got to get the war imposse.
You got to get the Tea Party Patriots.
Everybody's got to get to the ramparts.
Your cause of America to put the proverbial bayonet in these, you know, put this, put the sharpen in their back to move them along for action.
Yeah, Steve, you know, for five years, yes, I probably 70, 80 or millions.
I'm probably a good figure.
That doesn't count all the lawfare against me.
That's just putting money into every place there was fraud and to try and secure our elections and get to paper ballots, hand counting, same day voting, voter ID, all these things that we have to have or our country's gone.
The president and I are in lockstep, you guys.
He knows this is the most important thing because everything comes from our elections.
We have to pass this say back.
It isn't, you know, could we, can we, or will we?
No, we have to.
There is no, it's like you say, it's an 80-20, probably even 85-15.
And this is, is this, does this get rid of the machines, the paper ballots, handcuffing?
No, but this opens the door to finally getting our elections secure, which, if you remember, Steve, when I ran for RNC chair, the RNC, they passed a resolution that came out of that when I ran for paper ballots, hand-counted, no mailing vote, or same-day voting, voter ID, and all this stuff was put in in the summer of 23.
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